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How hard is it to join a monastery? I just want to live a quiet,

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How hard is it to join a monastery? I just want to live a quiet, simple life free of degeneracy.
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>>34210722
You'd be working like 16 hour+ days I think, 7 days a week. Depending on where you go. In exchange for room and board you'd be helping the people near your monastery.

Just go minimalist. You could live without unnecessary worldly possessions Not sure what you mean by degeneracy though.
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In the US you need your parent's permission to join, even if you're 40. You also can't be a sperg, because you have to discuss scripture every day.
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>>34210722
Being a monk is hard op
It's not all praying and mediating
you'll be getting up early morning and doing a lot of work, like sweeping helping with laundry and cooking and other errands.

and you don't just join a monastery you have to earn your place by doing a lot of grunt work.

Like the second poster says try to go minimalist and learn mediation.

>>34211256
I think he means porn and the sexually degenerate and hedonistic modern culture.
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>>34211352

>I think he means porn and the sexually degenerate and hedonistic modern culture.

Why would you want to get rid of that? It's not like your forced to partake. What happens between two consenting beings is their business.

Living in a Buddhist monastery would make you learn that. It's the Abrahamic religions that sought control over its flock that trick you into thinking otherwise.
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>>34211502
>Why would you want to get rid of that?
because it's an unhealthy and destractive behaviour
Have you ever wondered why western countries even thou one of the richest in the world have some of the highest suicide rates and depression rates,
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>>34211609
Japan is no.1
Finnland is really high aswell due to it always being coled and having times with days of darkness.
Africa? Some random nigger shoots you or you starve, no time to do an hero
China? The government makes you "disappear" so you can't finish completing the only task you are properly capable of.
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>>34211672
What about Muslims countries......?
They have one of the lowest suicide rates even though many of them are poor.
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>>34211609
>Have you ever wondered why western countries even thou one of the richest in the world have some of the highest suicide rates and depression rates,
Because the culture revolves around an unhealthy amount of attention on the false dichotomy that the Self/Other are two separate entities.

I mean just think of what "success" means for the 90% of people (normies) in the countries youre talking about.

Japan(not counting the buddhism and shinto there) has had a horrible abhorrence to the Self. I mean one of their biggest things anyone knows about their history is that they killed themselves for "dishonoring" someone they just accepted was above them(Seppuku) "You're not a person, you're just another cog in a machine and if you try not to be you WILL be shunned by the people you thought you could trust the most(family/friends).
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>>34211754
Religion, you mong
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>>34211960
Thats the point he was making dumb ass.

Islamic countries are traditional and anti degeneracy unlike the west
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>>34210722
>tfw when at my lowest I think of taking all my cash and leaving to Tibet

Do the monks accept anyone into monastery or am I living in a movie?
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>>34212031
Rather have "degeneracy" and suicide than live in a place I can get lashings for satirically speaking about the government.

The post implies suicide is even a bad thing in the first place. Which is inherently not true.
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>>34212108
You think living in a country where you can charged for rape without evidence
Get resigtered as a sex offender for pissing on the street corner
Pay child support and alimony to you ex wife who cheated on you is somehow better
than a country where virgin brides and stable marriages are the norm
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>>34212249

dont piss on street corners u nonce
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>>34210722
You will have to talk to a priest there or someone in charge and I guess just chill there for a bit before they let you in.

It sounds very appealing but honestly doing chores is a pain for me, and they will probably make you do same shit a janitor does for however long the higher ups feel like it. What really kills it for me is they can practically request you to do ~anything~ and I'm not implying sexual favors but really humiliating tasks like scrubbing shit off toilets or whatever and if you dont comply "you aren't faithful enough".
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>>34212108
>The post implies suicide is even a bad thing in the first place. Which is inherently not true.

You think like that because you live in a degenerate society.
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I can only tell you about Catholic ones. It's rather easy.

But I mean, you know you still have to work, right?

It's like being a kid in a family and have to do house chores all day.
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>>34211502
>Why would you want to get rid of that? It's not like your forced to partake. What happens between two consenting beings is their business.
Except the aspect of propagation means that it has nothing to do with interpersonal relationships but an underlying motive to increase the rates of degenerate behavior.
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>>34211754
>Syria
I guess they dont count snackbars with jenna vests
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>>34212108
>The post implies suicide is even a bad thing in the first place. Which is inherently not true.
>True
>Truth
Your life and intellectual intergrity are memes if you think you can use the word truth in a discussion about morals. Morality cannot be measured in any meaningful way, it's not analytical or empirical, the majority of people have a intuitive sense that suicide is a BAD thing, if one close to you killed themselves, you would feel bad if you are not defective, ergo if we take it that since morality cannot be proven naturalistically, as in, by using the world around us, we must assume that its meaning lies in how it makes us react, and since we have negative reactions to suicide- suicide is bad.
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>>34212249
>You think living in a country where you can charged for rape without evidence. Get resigtered as a sex offender for pissing on the street corner. Pay child support and alimony to you ex wife who cheated on you is somehow better
Of course it has its flaws. I never implied otherwise. The first and third thing you mentioned are examples of inequalities. The second one though seems really weird to even mention.

>than a country where virgin brides and stable marriages are the norm
Those virgin brides and "stable" marriages are like that under penalty of death for one of the parties in some of those countries. But again you imply that something that isn't inherently bad(divorce), is.

>>34212328
>You think like that because you live in a degenerate society.

What? If anything shouldnt it be the opposite? Who are the ones killing themselves and others over "traditional" society?

If life's only meaning is the experience of it then tell me what is bad about suicide? If all things including our own universe die. How is it logically a bad thing to want to choose when you the individual want to leave?
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>>34212453
I'd feel bad but it's their choice because it's their experience and it's not my place to say "Oh, you can't do this even if youre hurting because I'd feel sad" That's selfishness. It's why I'm pro- stuff like assisted suicide for terminal patients.

Imagine being at a party you don't want to be at but you can't leave because the doors are locked under the reason that 5 people at the party would be sad that you left.
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