>be nice >women think I'm creepy >be an asshole

>>34149503
not for us, there isn't.

>>34149503
Are you genuinely nice or just nice with the intention of getting in their pants?

Because that's what creepy means, people don't like when you have ulterior motives and try to mask it.

Be genuinely good to people and try to make the world a better place, people will recognize it.

>>34149503
you have to find the middle ground

why are women attracted to mean men though, could someone explain? do they all like to be abused?

>be a nice asshole
>girls swarm you

too bad I have a 3 inch dick, I would've been the greatest Chad in the 'verse.

>>34149573
>Be genuinely good to people and try to make the world a better place, people will recognize it.

Yeah, you need to throw this step in the way of sexual conquest.
People still believe it stands on its own merits.

>>34149574
They're not attracted to it, people (in general) just like genuinity.

Nobody actually wants to be friends with fake smile mannequins that just give vapid positive statements regarding everything.

>>34149503
Just act like you do not care about them. Don't be nice or mean

>>34149503

The problem is that you're unattractive.

People (not just women) are programmed to respond more positively towards attractive people.

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>Be nice guy
>People think I'm being a "nice guy"

Of course I want a gf, but I am genuinely ok with the fact if a woman I have interest in does not feel the same way back. Saddened yes, but not angry or bitter.

>>34149653
>Tfw
well at least its good for my career when I execute on my happy promises and always go the extra mile

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>>34149503
There's no pleasing them. The only option is rape.

>>34149584
>nice asshole
i.e. an asshole who acts nice as opposed to a nice person who acts like an asshole

this is why we're fucked robots

>>34149503
>be ugly
>women dont like me
ftfy

>>34149503
>>34149573
its cuz ur ugly.

>>34149573

This is false. Chad is also only nice your herpes ridden pussy to get in it, and you long for his pseudonice cock.

Stop lying and pretending, no one buys it.

>>34149573
I try to be nice to everyone and I help when I can but cunts think I'm only doing it cause I wanna fuck them.

If I help them, they think I'm a creep who only wants to fuck them.

If I don't help them, they think I'm a serial killer/ mass murderer who is also creepy.

There's just no winning.

>>34149653

This is where men and women genuinely differ. Women are spiteful and cruel in their heads and so they think people who aren't are faking it, whereas men are kind and thoughtful in their heads so they don't understand why women prefer men who are physically and sexually abusive to the children they had with a previous man.

>>34149573
>or just nice with the intention of getting in their pants

This is what roasties pretend was the intention of a nice man who she was not attracted to, so she can rationalise not being attracted to him, rather than have to acknowledge the disparity between her choices in partner and the way she says "I don't care about looks that much, I just want a nice guy!".

"Get in her pants" also shows that women have absolutely no concept of love, and see sex as something only done in pursuit of status and physical pleasure.

>>34149573
r9k hates when you tell them that. None of them will listen and instead will continue to be obviously shitty people and wonder why nobody likes them.

I guess it's way easier to complain about how nobody likes good people then to actually put effort into being one.

>>34150950
So then if you're a shitty person, what are your choices? Be a shitty person, people don't like you because you're shitty. Pretend to not be a shitty person, people don't like you because you're just acting nice but are actually shitty.

heads I win, tails you lose

you "win" by doing what makes you happy.

chasing women for validation never ever made me happy, so i completely stopped doing it.
if a relationship doesn't form naturally, then it never will, that's kind of how i go about things.

>>34151049
Don't be a shitty person.

Being born a certain way doesn't make you a bad person, you're only bad if you don't go out of your way to be good.

>>34151049
what do you mean by shitty person? and why is your only option to "pretend not be a shitty person" instead of actually not being a shitty person?

>>34152276
well you aren't the one who decides if you're a shitty person. Everyone thinks that he, himself, is not shitty. Other people determine if you're shitty or not.

And if they decide that you are, apparently you can either just accept being shunned, or try to adapt to what they want. And if you pick the latter, they take it as evidence that you're shitty.

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>>34149503
>those ponytails
why is hair my fetish, literally no content, difficult to explain to anyone

Mfw inherently nice person, always want the best for people and want everyone to get along. Noticed this in high school and began to stop giving a fuck about other people. It just makes you look soft if you aren't chad. Once, in high school, I verbally abused a girl in a class during a group discussion for no reason, just destroying whatever she said and talking shit (jokingly) about her appearance and intellect. She actually started to show interest in me, going out of her way to get near me and talk to me. I dropped the class soon after and didn't see much of her around in school after that, but that was an eye opener that made me realize girls want men who assert their dominance and are superior to them and show it, whether it is through degrading her or others.

>>34149573
>'he seems genuinely nice as opposed to trying to be nice to get sex, now I'm going to have sex with him.'

>>34152580
I dunno I'm with you though

There was a girl in the second grade that would always lay her hair on me and it was the most sensational thing ever

>>34151074
>if a relationship doesn't form naturally, then it never will
not OP but relationships dont form naturally for me and thats the problem.

>>34149503
have you tried being handsome and rich :)

>>34149573
>people will recognize it.

and not have sex with you

>>34152580
Holy shit dude this is me with bangs

Maybe I'm just into Russian chicks and chink empresses but bangs are literally the greatest thing in the world for me

>>34152591
>girls want men who assert their dominance and are superior to them and show it, whether it is through degrading her or others.
well if this is the case i no longer wish to have gf and have lost much respect for women but i am pretty sure it is not true

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>>34152705
>tfw using "from behind" tag to try to find pics showing off the back of a girl's head so I can JO to nice hair
my life is suffering, also theres some really nice Asuka hair I don't have on disk
It's not even as outlandish as some of the really popular fetishes, our people are just civil and small in number I guess

>>34149503
Not if you're ugly.

>>34149573
kek, no. If you are ugly people will find ugliness in you and you will find ugliness in yourself, period. At best the girls will saw 'aw, what a nice guy, maybe he'll find love some day <3'. They still won't be attracted to you.

>>34149503
What the fuck makes you think women want a nice guy? Why would this benefit them in any way?

If she's carrying your kid, you being nice to her is assumed. She wants a succesful man that can feed her, care for the kid, and beat threatening other guys to a pulp.

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>become an wizard
>don't chase women
>no longer care about being attractive
>stop looking at porn
>avoid masturbating as much as possible
>do hardcore nofap for months at a time
>develop powerful mana and master sexual transmutation

This is how you can win at life, on your own terms, rather than comparing yourself to chad.

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>>34152763
>>34152705
>>34149503
sorry OP this is now officially a hair thread

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>>34149503
>be myself
>women start throwing themselves on my dick

>>34152874
good post VaaV

>>34149574
because you hack their hypergamous nature if you treat them like shit then you tell her that you have greater value then her and that is what women want a guy who offers value. they don't want a guy who offers the equal value or lower value but a guy of great value then what she offers.

I have been getting that label lately and its terrible. There's no way out, no matter what you do they don't trust it. I actually got mad at one 'do you think I'm a serial killer!?' was funny but still didn't end up changing her mind. Maybe I should just become a serial killer, at least my being will be consonant

>>34149503
maybe its not meant to be.

believe me when l say, im sorry anon.

>>34150950
except op never mention sex. I think I am starting to realize that sex is all women have to offer.

>>34153050
Yeah but its the not mentioning sex that can make you creepy, you have to say something if it comes up, good icebreaker.

>>34149621
>>34149787
>>34149836
>>34149847
>>34149965
>>34152703
>>34152725
>>34152818
You people have a five year old's understanding of human relationships.

Stop patronizing people when you view other human beings through a telescope.

>>34153459
Yeah we should all hire lamborghini's for a day and get laid that way

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>>34153459
>invoking ideas related to research in evolutionary psychology
>5 year olds

I can't do it anymore

Never had that problem, although people seem to consider me to be generally a nice person. What might help though is that apparently I give off a "I don't give a fuck" vibe. At the same time people I've lived in an apartment with have said they've never seen me act serious about anything.

>>34149503
People consider me to be nice but I'm terrified to talk to girls my age so it doesn't help in the gf department.

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>>34153932
were you always that way, anon? this is the mindset i'd love to have but i can't stop obsessing

You will understand everything once you watch this documentary on attraction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri9hIqhiIGY

>>34154057
Yheah, pretty much, just a laid back person. If you're a more optimistic person it helps too. Just enjoy the small things in life, like driving home from school or work with the windows down on a nice sunny day. Its easy to not care when you're happy.

>>34151049
You either put effort into becoming a better person or own up to the fact that you're shitty and stop pretending like that isn't the reason people don't like you.

>>34152350
The baseline standards are actually pretty simple. If you're doing something the majority of people will not like you for, chances are it's more than just arbitrary personal dislike.

>>34153050
>except op never mention sex
Neither did anyone else?
>I am starting to realize that sex is all women have to offer
Evidence of being a shitty person.

>>34154287
Also, going through life happy most of the time makes you more attractive. If you go to parties and seem like you're having the most fun at the party without being inconsiderate you also get more attention. Getting drunk and dancing like an idiot is fun, but it also helps get women's interest. You don't seem like you have an 'agenda' and who doesn't want to hang out with someone who's having fun?

If you're chad you can win with either angle, just give up robots.

>>34154488
This is a lie.

Drunk idiots get made fun of by everyone. You'd know this if you weren't underage.

>>34154556
the thing is there is a fine line between being fun drunk guy and annoying drunk guy

>>34154611
All drunks are degenerate imbeciles in my eyes.

>be attractive
>get laid

I don't see the issue.

>>34149503
Being nice and being creepy aren't mutually exclusive.

Autist detected.

>>34149700
>be nice guy
>people thing i am being a being a nice guy
>really trying to be a >nice guy

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How drunk do you need to get to actually stop hating/doubting yourself for a moment and take a risk?
For me its about 6-7 units of alcohol.

>>34149503
> stay in the house
> women don't know you exist

There you go.