>hate chad and stacy with a passion >hate the society that

>>34136528
or you could just use adblock

>>34136555
It's not even close.

>you still give the videos views, increasing their visibility in search engines
>want it or not, you still participate in the porn celeb culture, padding the popularity of literal whores
>money aside, you get off on watching people you hate fuck each other

Stop looking for excuses. Either admit that you are not any better than normies, or stop watching porn.

Porn is bad for society. Because of how accessible it is,it has driven men from being naturaly extroverted into naturaly introverted. You can have an example of such a person if you look at anyone who posts on this board regularly. If they had to work for their pleasure they would be focusing on bettering themselves,not being lazy and depressed. Prove me wrong,you stupid lazy niggers.

>>34136647
They won't even try.

>hurr durr masturbation is healthy so porn must be healthy too hurr hurr

So that means all porn is normie? Even taboo porn?

>>34136775
Thats the bad part. They would rather support a system designed in turning people into deviant,nasty,sinful people. And the worst part about it is,we cant really do anything about it unless a nation wide reformation took place. Becuase even if the goverment tryed censoring porn the industry would sue them for infringing on their rights. I am all for peoples artistic rights and freedoms but porn is just too much. It is a burden that the shoulders of good men and women can not handle.

>>34136528
>>"I know, I will watch some videos of chad and stacy fucking each other, therefore funding their degenerate lifestyles and reinforcing the existing societal situation that made me an outcast"

This is why I hate porn.

>>34136647
>he said, as he went to go fap to trap porn

>>34137043
Just look at that shit, man.
>>34137134

I've literally never seen a pornfag try to defend porn. They just acknowledge that porn is bad for them and for society and roll with it. The only "arguments" I've heard in these threads are "haha u gay".

>>34136986
Yes, even taboo porn.

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>>34136528
>a literal tu quoque argument
>lifestyleism
>implying that tropes of "resistance to the existing social order" aren't relentlessly commodified, manufactured, and sold by that social order
I am disappoint.
There is no such thing as "ethical consumption."

>>34137227
I might be dumb, but you wrote this in such a manner that I don't know if you are pro-porn or anti-porn.

>>34136528

I don't mind some people being whores, it's an inevitability. There's just an epidemic of sluts and a shortage of nice wife girls irl right now. But I'll watch some hairy pussy getting pounded so I can cum and stop thinking about sex. Too much porn seems bad yeah, I went down that path once but since scaling back I haven't noticed an inability to get a diamond boner from real girls, so not too worried.

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>>34136528
>hate chad and stacy with a passion because they're only where they are because they have better genes
>hate the society that serves them everything on a silver plate
>get horny
>fap to the idea of bonding with an alien symbiote that turns me into a superhuman futa genetically superior to any other human and get to have sex with any woman I want, in turn bonding them with a copy of the same symbiote and creating a harem of genetically superior beings, ending the normies reign that was based on genetic variance once and for all

I'm 100% robot tbqh

>>34137134
You are disgusting and projecting. I say porn is bad and know it is. I do not watch porn. Sure i masturbate but i dont need porn to masturbate. I do not support an indistry as evil as porn. Try and derail all you want,it wont change the fact i am right and you are wrong.

>>34136528
That's why 2d>3d
I don't want to help a sloppy anus busted up Stacy

I don't watch porn, but I do disagree with this whole "hollier than thou" attitude toward being a robot. And who pays for porn? Come on, this is the current year!

>>34137270
Speaking from personal experience, fapping to non-porn content is easier than fapping to porn, after you "detox". I quit porn two months ago and I find it much more satisfying to fap to non-pornographical pictures than porn. TL;DR: porn is completely unnecesary to relieve your horniness.

>>34137277
>>34137302
Fapping to non-porn is fine by me, I don't judge.

>>34137348
See this:
>>34136627

Even if you don't directly pay, you still support the porn industry.

>>34136647
>Because of how accessible it is,it has driven men from being naturaly extroverted into naturaly introverted.
Wrong, you historical revisionist tradcon cuck. You might like to pretend that "Back in muh old days ALL MEN WERE ALPHA CHADS and it's the JEWS that made betas!" but you're plain wrong. There was ALWAYS an excess of beta, introverted style men. They only seem "extroverted" alphas because they got wives, but back in the past almost any man could get a wife because if a woman didn't marry she'd have a real hard time in life without a provider.

>>34137227
>responds to tu quoque with weaker tu cockue

>>34137381

I can fap to pictures of cute makes girls and do okay. I dunno, sometimes I just like it in video format.

>>34137227

This is different, at least what's going on on 4chan and other sites that might be called the "manosphere". How do you commodify and sell "GAS THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW" or "most Western women are hedonistic arrogant sluts that sociopathically manipulate and use men"? You can't do anything with that.

>>34137443

naked* not makes, brb gassing myself for phoneposting

>>34136528
>funding their degenerate lifestyles
Porn is free.

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>>34137417
No I didn't

>>34137259
>I don't know if you are pro-porn or anti-porn
Doesn't matter. There are other anti-porn arguments and I'd be arguing in bad faith if I took your position to represent those

>>34137443
>How do you commodify and sell "GAS THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW" or "most Western women are hedonistic arrogant sluts that sociopathically manipulate and use men"?
By electing another neocon

>>34137443
>How do you commodify and sell "GAS THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW"
MAGA Hats :^)
>or "most Western women are hedonistic arrogant sluts that sociopathically manipulate and use men"?
PUA culture that commofidys this opinion into a way to get sex.

>>34137409
Ayyy yo hol up so yous sayin porn has no bad side effects on society at all,and it is just harmless fun?

>>34137483
>unironically being a commie
Your ideology will never work unless you colonize another planet and found your new government on un-biased, computer regulated communistic distribution of resources that as a state is solely made up of people that wished to live uder such a system so you don't get subverted by capitalists who are unhappy they can't opress you for their own benefit

Communism can't work while humans are allowed to be card carrying party members.

>>34137498
>Ayyy yo hol up so yous sayin porn has no bad side effects on society at all
I simply said it's not the cause of "Muh inverted numale epidemic". It can create other problems, but "WAHHHH MEN AREN'T ALL EXTROVERTED CHADS" is a fact of life, not a consequence of porn.

>>34137483

Trump isn't a neocon because Trump isn't anything yet. He's a complete wild card and unknown on foreign policy.

>>34137488

Trump is also a kike lover so he's not going to solve the Jewish problem. PUA are fags and con artists but you got me there, that is a commodification. I think it's closer to "get laid at all costs" rather than slutty woman hate though.

>>34137477
Already explained:
>>34136627

>>34137483
>>34137488
>>34137543

Imho this issue has little to do with politics. Note how there are strong movements on the left to ban porn, because it supposedly objectifies women (which is bullshit btw, women objectify themselves without porn, too).

Don't blame it on politicians when it's you that support and spread porn. We have free(ish) market, there would be no supply if there was no demand for porn.

I only watch 2D stuff, fuck 3DPD.

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>>34137582
>We have free(ish) market, there would be no supply if there was no demand for porn.
And you want to promote others to try and make it a non-free market by refusing to watch porn?
Spooks please leave and stop thinking you can tell me what to do.

>>34136528
>>34136627
Stop thinking so democratically. You do nothing on your own you narcissists.

>>34136647
I didn't watch porn or even masturbate until I was 19 years old. It isn't even porn by the standards of most people on 4chan, usually just images of girls in sexy clothing. Still, I've been introverted my whole life. Porn had nothing to do with my introversion, at least for the first 19 years.

>>34137582
>objectify
Implying sexual objetification is a real problem. Implying it's not a meaningless term used by the left to gain political power through women by panting them as victims of some sort of strawman conspiracy.

>>34136528
>Not pirating your porn

Im fapping to roasties and not supporting their disgusting lifestyle

>>34137630
I do. I don't watch porn and I encourage others to do the same.

>>34137621
How is refusing to watch porn authoritarian and anti-free market? I am freely chosing to not watch porn and convinvcing (not forcing) others to do the same, does that oppress you?

>>34136528
>>"I know, I will watch some videos of chad and stacy fucking each other, therefore funding their degenerate lifestyles and reinforcing the existing societal situation that made me an outcast"
No. you're an outcast because you're a byproduct of a time in which the society was a little bit more traditional and it allowed your ugly parents to breed because they were productive drones. Now women are sexually liberated and there's nothing wrong with that, only your ugly self expectations about the world.

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>>34137676
>and convinvcing (not forcing) others to do the same, does that oppress you?
I didn't say opress, I said spook. Your ultimate end goal is to destroy the current free market by making others accept your opinion with smoke and mirrors tricks like "Morals"

>>34136627
>you still give the videos views

>views
>magnet urls
right

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>>34137580
>Trump isn't anything yet
He has his own financial interests, same as anyone. And the project of "governance" plays into the existing interests that decide public policy. There's some tactical wiggle room, of course, like more vs less welfare for social stability, but the material base remains unchanged. He doesn't have some sort of carte blanche here to faithfully represent those who elected him.
I was more talking about his appointments, though.

>>34137582
>Imho this issue has little to do with politics.
It's essentially apolitical. But Marxist theory should help someone understand why "you can't be a robot if you don't go to great pains to avoid things that are part of 'the system' as protest" is utter nonsense.

>>34137682

>women are sexually liberated and there's nothing wrong with that

epic b8

>>34137711
It's really not because you're still allowed to talk against and prove him wrong. He's free to use any tricks to sell whichever idea he wants.

>>34137711
>eliminate a product from the free market without any governmental intervention
>destroying free market

I don't get it

>>34137745
Prove me wrong. Traditional societies are dying and there's nothing wrong with that. Evolution is following its course. A bunch of ugly betas that will die off playing videogames in a few generations are not a problem at all.

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>>34137621
>>34137711
>spookposting

>>34136528
I thought the whole thing about being a robot is being as pathetic as humanly possible? Sounds like you're the imposter here OP

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>>34137780
>commieposting
Hands off my property you gigaspook.

>>34137777
>betas are gonna die off

Okay, lets end this here please. This bait couldn't possibly get any more obvious.

>>34137818
You haven't posted any decent argument yet. How is what I'm saying wrong in any way?

>>34137838
>>34137818
>>34137777
>vanishing betas
Not him, but robothood is socially determined. It isn't a fully genetic thing, and those specific genetic traits which do "determine" falling into the robot mold are not set in stone and can change with a changing society.

Most likely there will always be a beta underclass even as certain traits are bred out, because the goalposts are also moving. They're placed by society, which is the product of genetic traits, among other influences.

I thought one of the major /pol/ talking points was supposed to be "hierarchy is inherent in society"?

>>34137838
I've posted a number, you didn't address them. Porn being a part of "evolution" is not an argument because since humans became self-aware they defy evolution in every way possible.

>porn damages the sexuality of insecure people (your counterargument: muh sexual liberation)
>porn promotes promiscuity and undermines the obvious values of having a stable, trusted partner (your counterargument: muh sexual liberation)
>porn undermines the value of work by promoting the idea that you can be rich if you fuck enough people (your counterargument: muh sexual liberation)
>porn promotes completely unreal and unnatural beauty standards (your counterargument: muh sexual liberation)

And a bunch of others that you will sum up by saying "haha u gay" or "haha conservashit" or something among these lines.

By the way, I'm not even religious.

>>34137777

>natural selection
>welfare state

Pick one. Birth control has completely fucked human sexual relations, even more than the welfare state. Women might want to change the system too once most men know the truth and every 40+ former slut gets nothing but cats because none of the men will fall for their vicious trick anymore. But it's a decades long process. Liberals try to dismiss it as "angry misogyny" but we're not wrong about women, and the internet isn't going away.

>>34138026
>birth control was for women to play tricks
kek. life has never in history been better for a regular joe. if you're a 40 year old bachelor that's on you.

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>>34136528
Then look up ameture porn of couples doing it, it'll be normies but not stacys/chads

>>34137981
>Most likely there will always be a beta underclass even as certain traits are bred out, because the goalposts are also moving. They're placed by society, which is the product of genetic traits, among other influences.
But the ammount of betas will be always declining because of the leveling of the genetic playfield after the damage of the traditional society is fixed.
>>34138005
attraction is biologically determined, porn has little effect over it.
>porn undermines the value of work by promoting the idea that you can be rich if you fuck enough people
this makes no fucking sense.
>porn promotes promiscuity and undermines the obvious values of having a stable, trusted partner
this is worse than saying that playing GTA turns you into a murderer. people are not turning to monogamy because of other reasons.
>porn promotes completely unreal and unnatural beauty standards
this would never be a problem if ugly people weren't being rewarded breeding just because they are productive.
>>34138026
>natural selection
I pick natural selection of course. Welfare is a joke.
>Women might want to change the system too once most men know the truth and every 40+ former slut gets nothing but cats because none of the men will fall for their vicious trick anymore.
this is a choice they make. if there was no welfare of any kind for single moms i doubt they would ride the carousel as much as they do today. their choices for sexual partners would be much more counscious.

>>34138115

More like birth control enables unrestrained hedonism because no babby. It's fine in moderation but I'm not wifing an old sagging whore who would have judged me unworthy 10 years prior. Women are just being vicious cunts about it at the moment, I'd like to see a return to real femininity and family orientedness from women, but leftists need votes and pandering to give more gubmint gibs to women every time men refuse their bullshit works.

>life has never been better for a regular joe

Not for me, I want a nice submissive and supportive wife but all I'm stuck with are arrogant whores who expect game and offer only a warm hole. There's no connection there, and I hate their fucking guts if they're that type so no chance of a connection either.

>>34138246
>Not for me, I want a nice submissive and supportive wife but all I'm stuck with are arrogant whores who expect game and offer only a warm hole. There's no connection there, and I hate their fucking guts if they're that type so no chance of a connection either.
You're not entitled anything from anyone.

>>34136528
I watch facial abuse, which is Stacy getting BTFO.

>>34138246
>unrestrained
what's the problem?

>judged me unworthy
>not for me
if you're a piece of shit today, as determined by women your age or younger, then what do you think your life would have actually been like 70-100 years ago? feminine women means you'd have to do even more work just to impress the father and put a ring on it before you could even stick your tiny peen in her. oh but you would have adjusted in that reality, right? fag.

>>34138287

You're right, but women aren't entitled to a relationship with me when they're 30+ and I actually have my shit together while they were off whoring. I hope they enjoy being strung along for easy sex, they should be used to it by then.

>>34136528
It's funny how robots change after they have sex. They stop recognizing their robot friends, they all of a sudden want to be normals.

>>34138326
No one is going to force you into a relationship with them, unless the state cucks you with bachelor taxes and that's something that should be fought.

>>34138340
>It's funny how robots change after they have sex.
It's almost like having sex makes them not robots or something.
It's honestly more insulting when they have sex and imply they can still be robots afterwards.

>>34138309

I'm not a piece of shit, I think dumb Stacies aren't worth my time when they don't want a family and are invariably dicked out scheming whores. They can make their own choices but so can I.

>>34138153
>attraction is biologically determined, porn has little effect over it.
Then why do beauty standards change so rapidly?

>this makes no fucking sense.
I can't put it any simpler.

>this is worse than saying that playing GTA turns you into a murderer.
I meant porn as a career choice, not as a medium.

>this would never be a problem if ugly people weren't being rewarded breeding just because they are productive.
Oh, so being ugly means you can't be a valuable person and deserve to die alone. Got it.

>>34138368
>Then why do beauty standards change so rapidly?
They don't, women still prefer masculine men and men prefer feminine women. Facial symmetry and all the other signs of genetic quality.
>I meant porn as a career choice, not as a medium.
What's wrong with choosing that career?
>Oh, so being ugly means you can't be a valuable person and deserve to die alone. Got it.
No. You shouldn't stain humanity with shit genes and you're entitled to a relationship and breeding. People are the ones that will judge you worthy or not of their company. It's simple as that, sexually liberated women will pick the best genes to breed with and that's better in the long run.

>>34138367
>whores
wow so you won't waste your time on less than a percent of the population? what a noble virginal rebel you are!

you just said you want someone submissive and supportive, right? how fucked up are you that you're having trouble here?

>>34138413
you're NOT entitled*

>>34138413
>No.

I'm done here.

>>34138446
Why, have I offended your ideal of a falacious just-world, little boy? You're not entitled to anything just because you worked hard on being "valuable" (whatever that shit means). If you're of no use to people they will not associate with you. Simple as that. You're not the one who chooses what should make them interested in you. And it's better if things are this way and people are free to have their own standards.

>>34138514
I don't discuss with nihilists.

>>34138422

By "whore" I mean the average attractive Western girl who has a high probability of a double digit partner count or even higher. Only about 20% of the female population is prime breeding age anyway.

It's harder because there a lot of bar sluts and single moms that I'm not interested in.

>>34138560
Why not? You were discussing until now. Can't you make your points come across? I'm all ears. By the way, how does my points make me a nihilist?

>>34138580
>fails at finding the woman he wants
>is proud of that

>>34136647
Well for me, the choice would only be : to fap, or to not fap. To get pleasure, or to forget pleasure. Because i can't do prostitutes, i'm scared of STDs and i don't have money plus they're all disgusting. But i can't hook up ever, i'm a robot and i have a small dick, sex literally scares me off, even though i want one so bad, i want intimacy so bad, but i'm scared of actually being naked with a woman. I just fapped and my dick was so small and it was just so pathetic. I can't believe i'm actually living with this, when some other guys are so comfortable and stress free and just have all the stuffs that i admire that i wish i could have.

I fucking hate this. Why is life so difficult for me ? Why not for everybody equally ? If only i had a big dick i would've achieved a lot in life. Even sex.

>>34138603
Whats wrong with being proud of finding out that unicorns doesn't exist?

>there are people here who can't fap by closing their eyes and using their imagination

>>34138596
The foundantion of a dialogue is a similar basic understanding of the world. Our most basic values are fundamentally different, so there's no point in dragging this on. I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear because english isn't my first language, but I'm adamand on that I can't argue with a preacher of eugenics, just like I couldn't argue with a religious nutjob who doesn't accept the most basic rules of logic.

Because we all wish to be like them. I wish i could be perfect or at least good upbringing and average dick.

I wish i could be like them. I wish i could be on par with them, psychologically and physically. I fantasize about it all the time. I fantasize about the ideal life that i wish to have

>>34138680
And that fantasy is making you more miserable.

>>34138691
Well what more can i do ? My penis is not gonna be bigger anymore, so everything is pointless. Pursuing anything is pointless. Like for what ? Give me an example.

>>34138675
>Our most basic values are fundamentally different, so there's no point in dragging this on.
Now I got you and I will respect this. Thanks for clarifying.

>>34138706
Why your life revolves so much around your penis and women?

I just fap to girls I know, it's more fun than porn honestly. In a few cases this actually had a fun payoff where later I actually ended up dating or having one night stands with those girls and got to experience the real thing vs. what I thought it would be with that girl.

>>34136528
But the only way to fight against the society is to be something that are the opposite of them. Since they always promote positivity, we annoy them by doing the exact opposite. We show them that we're the antagonist, that we're always ready to put a bullet in their big dicks so that the world can be fair again, something that God failed to do.

>>34138734
Because i don't see anything else worth revolving around. Nothing else feels meaningful and exciting.

>>34136528
neurotic double standards, intense self-loathing and self sabotage lay the foundation for any good robot.

>>34138773
why would you live like that? seems like you're stupid.

>>34138890
Idk i didn't ask for this. I just lost passion in everything. Like pursuing art and music seems pointless now, because i'm never gonna get serious at it anyway, and being good at it doesn't mean anything anymore to me. Nothing feels meaningful. Maybe because i don't like myself so much

>>34138603

Who said proud? Just butthurt and running wild with the appropriate response to selfish whores being selfish whores instead of my cum slave that also cooks breakfast. I learned to hate and disregard women and it's great, they can never get the better of me again.

>>34138641
These were the good times. When I was 13 porn was not advent yet

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>>34138641
They didn't choose this, porn did this to them.

>implying they really enjoy it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NyzCJx4IiI

>>34139696
They do enjoy it. The fact that they experience rightful backlash (too soft, imo) for it has nothing to do with that. And now this whore spreads this story on the internet and profits from it, and beta providers like you help her by reposting this video on 4chan.

>>34140261
>beta provider
>dont give her a fucking dime
>muh ad revenue even though shes would see 5 bucks off this
go fuck yourself these whores put up a facade pretending they like getting fucked when most of them are drug addict desperate for their next fix

>>34140330
>"it's just 5 bucks"
>said 1 million beta providers

It doesn't matter you didn't give her money. She profits from your naivety, and you waste time watching this made up crap how porn was so nasty to her. You are a beta provider, doesn't matter how hard you deny it. Don't blame me for stating facts, blame porn for making you a whiny faggot.

>>34136647
only reason i'm posting on this board is because of circumstances preventing me from reaching my goals, i'll leave in July when i get my own apartment

>>34138995
Art and music becomes more serious the longer you pursue it Anon, don't give up. There's fuck all else to care about may as well transcend the mundane.

>>34140330
>whiteknighting for a literal prostitute

oh boy

>>34136528

Just watch really degrading porn. Then you can mock stacy while she gets fed shit covered dicks while in bondage...on camera...widely distributed for all to see.

>>34141477
1. If she agreed to this kind of porn, it must turn her on, so it's not really degrading for her.
2. The more taboo the porn, the better the salary, so watching degrading porn is even worse than ""normal"".

>>34138807
could be rephrased to say mgtow instead of robot