Are you fucking kidding me? Deleting imouto threads again?

>>33517056
Seriously. Isn't there an anime they could be watching or something?

>>33517056
SHIT

There was some amazing content in there as well. This is 100% fucked up and janitor needs to pay

>>33517056
we just wanna here about pat, bearguy, imouto cuddler, worried imouto and whoever the fuck else's journey into the world of pure love

any reason why the trail of imouto tears is taking place?

incest threads have been on this boards for fucking ever.

even the retarded shit like dad is raping sister in the other room again get put up every day.

whats up the jan/mods cunt today?

>>33517056
I guess.

Unless mr janny can offer an actual reason instead of just deleting the threads without any explanation, I guess we'll just have to keep making them. There's more of us than him.

>>33517056
What rule did he say you were breaking

Also the thread's on the cuckchan.org archive probably

>>33517056
If it were up too me ide delete sll these faggot cartoon threads. They are spam and rule violations.

>>33517097

desu archive of last thread

http://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/33498303/

we can move this over to 4+4 chan if it bothers you so fucking much cunts.

>>33517113
Mommy took away his hump pillow

>>33517126
He didn't, he's wrongfully deleting the thread with no reason whatsoever. Not a single thing about that thread was against 4chan rules.

>>33517134
I'm down. I prefer the pol over there anyway

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>>33517128
im sure you'd leave the trap threads up though wouldn't you faggot?

>>33517126
No one said shit, that's the thing

I'm just going to point out that an actual GENERAL has been up all day and will likely stay up even though it is a direct violation of board rules, yet imouto threads are being deleted for no reason.

>>33503164

>>33517106
dont forget about all the pussy X and IcyHot have been slaying over the past couple of days.

>>33517205
the mod/jan is a fuckboi cuck loving cock lover.

no surprise here...

>>33517205
It isn't about any rules. Jan doesn't like these threads for some reason maybe daddy fucked him in the butthole and got so triggered he became a trap and hates wincest threads

>>33517128
Which rules, you fucking moron?
>too
>ide
>sll
Are you being fucking ironic? You're barely literate. Turn in your fucking posting cert, cancel your 4chan account, unsubscribe from my thread, write your name to the akill file, etc.

>>33517158
No, he wouldn't. He'd probably leave up the fucking five millionth trump thread, though.

>>33517205
Only /q/ueers give a shit about generals.

Let's move all this over to 4+4 chan

>>33517217
oh shit yeah, cant forget about them. so many sibling fuckers in these threads, its great lmao

>>33517263
nice try jan, we belong on /r9k/

>>33517134
do you have the link to all the other archived threads that pat and the gang have made?

Since we're just sitting around in rage and our heroes are gone for the time being,

Who OG imouto cuddler here? It kind of sucks that he hasn't been posting as much and seems to leave out the cute mundane shit that made his stuff so great.

>>33517158
No I wouldnt. Anything that didnt revolve around the hatred of women, the red pill, mam related issues would result in a ban.

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>>33517284
I'm not the janitor. I'm the anal fixation guy

>>33517263
Let's randomly reshuffle what's allowed on a board and what isn't for no reason.

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>>33517347
I'm not the janitor. I'm the anal fixation guy, god damn it

So are we gonna do anything?

i wish i could stop molesting my imouto but all my sexual frustration has got to go somewhere (and im bored of plain fapping)

why did god have to make her so attractive. why did she get her tits so early. she only 6th grade and already bigger than my mom's.

>>33517113
It's not just today, it was yesterday too.

>>33517473
Mold her. Keep her away from tumblr, give her cuddles, help her with her homework, tell her you love her, etc. In a few years she'll be willing to let you lewd her.

bumping do any anon that sees this comes back.

that last wipe really took out the energy of this thread.

usually around this time its 200+ posts here.

not only that but we had 3 anons that are about to join the wincest train.

>>33517784
They don't want to contribute if the thread just gets deleted.

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>>33517056
Good, it'll stop reminding me that my sister doesn't even live on the same continent as me.

>>33517803
Good, it'll stop reming me I DONT HAVE A SISTER.

>>33517803
would you a sister if you could?

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I wish they would stop deleting these threads. Yeesh.

Bro's been asleep since supper, he has to work 11 hours a day until Christmas eve, so I'll leave him alone until then. I'm going to treat him really good Christmas Eve!

As for me, I'm helping mom make chocolate oatmeal cookies, peanut butter fudge, and cherry chip cake (pic related is what we're aiming for).
I hope he still wants to cuddle after I'm fat from all the sweets. They're so good.
Anyways, I got work tomorrow, so after I icing the cake, I'm going to bed.

I really hope the thread's still up tomorrow...

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Is it safe yet?

I don't really have time to say anything anyway, let's just say a certain imouto is off her period and parading around the house in something similar to pic related+striped thigh-highs seemingly waiting for me to pounce on her.

Her only "real fetish", according to her, is kissing. I could've told you that though.

>>33518049
sleep tight W.I, see you in the thread tomorrow, if its nots zucced

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>>33518049
I think you'll be stuck with him for a very long time Hun!

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Nothing much, but I feel bad about the thread being deleted so I'll give what little I have. Even if it is dumb.

>Flute playing suddenly ends
>I can finally reclaim my throne that is her bed
>Knocking on my door
>As soon as I open up, I hear her pipe up
>"Get your fucking wallet, ---. We're going on a snack run!"
>I've eaten all I needed to eat today, but it looks like a no is out of the question
>We rush to my truck since it's cold as fuck outside
>Awakened by the cold, we're just a mess of laughter for some reason
>She plugs in her phone and one of our favorite songs pops up
>Her excitement is always contagious and I find myself singing along with her to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V784AiYtG8

Again, it's stupid, so sorry. We're just finishing stuffing our faces with junk before I go to bed.

>>33518130
>striped thigh-highs


lucky fuck!

you gonna mention your other fetish?

>>33518218
>We're just finishing stuffing our faces with junk before I go to bed

not stuffing your face in her junk...

when do you plan on making the first move anon?

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>>33518272
I dunno. I'm taking her out again on Friday, so maybe I'll say something. And no, not the burger joint like some of you fuckers gave me shit for.

But seriously, thank you for giving me shit for it.

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>>33517056
Just a very friendly reminder for a very special guy

>>33518218
How have I never heard that song before in my life, this makes me want to watch always sunny. It's gonna be stuck in my head for weeks now, thank you bearguy.

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>>33518569
But we do it for the purest form of love

>>33518673

Kuronoko was a better choice, I honestly found her unbearable for 80% of the show.

>>33517834
No, she's not for incest, I love her and treat her like a normal big brother does; by being annoying as fuck.

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>>33518683
>not wanting a bratty imouto
Your loss anon

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>>33518683
Why not a threesome?

>>33518775
Kirino wouldn't have allowed it.

Should we make a complaint on /qa/? No one is getting banned for this shit so this is clearly a rogue janitor with a grudge against these threads. I doubt we'll get much sympathy but how do these threads break the rules?

also fuck off cripplechan shills

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>>33518731

She was not only bratty but a bitch who physically abused the mc which I couldn't stand. She took him for granted and the return wasn't anywhere worth the payoff. He made a mistake honestly.

>durr I love my sister so all you attractive girls wanting my dick have to go
>yes that includes you girlfriend
>get "married" to sister then go back to being sibling
>whole thing was a waste of time.

>>33518775

Fuck that.

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>>33518683
>>33518683
>Kuronoko was a better choice


stay mad!

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>>33518820
>>33518820
>He made a mistake honestly.


best mistake of the series you fag.

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Unironically the best oreimo girl

>>33518914

She was the worst by far. She pretended to be nice aloof girl who never made her intentions clear to the mc then turned to a heartless cunt near the end.

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>>33518775
No, we must go deeper...

>>33518793
No. Understand politics: if you point out that a janitor did something dumb, the mods will have no choice but to circle the wagons around him and double down on banning these, because it's the only way they can save face.

You have to allow them to look like they've succeeded in doing whatever it is they've tried to do, no matter how stupid it may be, so that their authority does not fall into question, because if it does, they have to prove they have the biggest dicks on the block, and they'll do this by shitting on your threads.

This entails renaming threads to /imogen/ or something.

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>>33518888
>best mistake of the series you fag
...Thus saith the quads.

Fuck I want an Imouto.

This is truly the definition of suffering isn't it?

To go through life without a Little Sister to cherish? Why even live?

>>33519282
just kill yourself than pedo
you'd do a service

>>33518977
Listen to this oldfag

>>33519374
may I cuddle you, tardsempai

>>33519282
Get your parents to give you a sibling or adopt one.
No one should have to go through life without an imouto.

>>33517056
/r9k/ doesnt neet a incest roleplay general where you fucking turbo autists make up stories and jerk off to it

>>33519569
4chan doesn't "need" /r9k/

>>33519569
It doesn't need a lot of shit that crops up on this board but here we are. Stay mad, janny

>>33519569
r9k is for greentext stories you faggot

>>33519569

>turbo autists make up stories and jerk off to it

This describes most of 4chan

>>33519569
this desu
anyone who says otherwise is a buttmad pedophile

>>33519569
>>33520045
thanks for the bump anons.

>>33517258
Look at this turbo autist and laugh. Your threads are shit, get fucked.

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>>33519569
FUG YOU
Go and stay in your containment thread: >>33519373

FUGGIN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *brrrrrrrrrt* *brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt*

@33520045
if you don't shut up I'm gonna bring back agathaposting and give you something to cry about

>>33520239
haha, okay newfriend

filters exist for a reason

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>tfw absolutely love my sister, and know she absolutely loves me (as a brother) but she's across the country (burgerland) from me
goddammit

@33520279
how would you know, you can't even use them

>>33520179
>containment thread
I'm not even going to read the OP, I just wanted to call you a fuckwit.

>>33520315
>implying I can't use filters because I haven't filtered out your shitty pedophile cirlce jerk threads

nice one bubby
i love pissing pedophiles off

>threads are getting deleted
>annoying people are attacking our posters
>morale is at an all time low
>imouto cuddler is no where to be found

Is the dream dead anons?

>>33520396
Op here, I probably won't be making these threads anymore.

Your post pretty much explains why.

>>33520396
IC and D are sick. He hasn't been around all day. Give it 24 hours

>>33518130
>being this much of a loser

neck yourself

>>33520471
im OP... who the fuck are you?

you are trying to take us down from within?
this much hate for imouto threads makes me wonder why you aren't over at /pol/ doing so much winning...

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>>33520396
I'm here now, the thread just seems weirdly hostile all of the sudden, and I should probably be sleeping early instead of updating.

I guess here's the shortest possible summary if there's anyone who still cares:
>We sexed a little, it was pretty great
>No anal, since a certain guy will ask
>Fucking hell she's "Mostly okay" with getting pregnant, why did I even ask her, fuck me

>>33520356
Not that responding to these guys is worthwhile, but has there been a single act of actual pedophilia in these threads? I certainly haven't seen any.

>>33520562
He's a CTR who's paycheck just bounced. I'd be disgruntled too

>>33520575
>if there's anyone who still cares:


all that shit sounds awesome!!!

we need more details man!!! help revive us from these nazi trap loving fucks.

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>>33520575
Just ignore him Pat. Thank you for the update. I hope you have a good day at work tomorrow man

>>33520562
>>33520471
Op here, you two are probably one guy

slow your role and put on your fucking breaks

>>33520575
oh yeah you're right

eveything you autists have been posting in the these threads were all made up anyways

thanks for the clarification

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>>33520637

just stop you are making yourself look bad.

thanks fro the bumps though.

>>33520672
>making yourself look bad

can't really look bad amongst pedophiles

>>33520575
>>We sexed a little, it was pretty great

all that anticipation and you only sexed "a little"?

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>>33520604
>>33520614
Alright, I wrote down about half of what happened. It's probably kinda boring unless you like conversation, but I really need to fucking go to sleep. Just add "And then I put my penis inside her" to the end of part 2, it wouldn't even be inaccurate.

>>33520818
It was really good though.

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>>33521022
>Em came home a bit later than usual with a bunch of grocery type stuff, and a distinctly non-grocery bag
>I gave her a kiss at the door and helped her bring shit inside
>She wanted to make dinner (Some ravioli thing and a salad), so I dicked around while she did that
>After a while, we sit down to eat, and we talked some over dinner
>P: Sooo what's up with wanting to know my fetishes all of the sudden?
>E: Heehee, I was just curious. You're boring though, I already knew you liked stripes
>P: I like other stuff, you just caught me off guard...
>E: Well what else do you liiiiiike?
>P: Your ass
>E: That's not a fetish!
>P: What's YOUR biggest fetish, then?
>E: Ummm, I just like normal things, ehehe...
>P: What's your favorite normal thing?
>E: Don't make me say it, eheh...
>P: C'mon, Em
>E: I just like really like kissing you, that's allll
>P: Well that's not very interesting
>E: Ahah, I hate you...
>We finished, I offered to clean everything up while she just sorta chilled on the couch
>I join her on the couch after that, and we just had a surprisingly normal time for a while
>We watched more of the meme show I mentioned, and talked about her work and my upcoming grocery bagging gig
>She goes off to shower after a couple episodes, and specifically says not to join her again
>I moved back to the table and did shit on my laptop for a while
>Eventually I hear her leave my room and enter hers, and soon after she walks out wearing the shit I mentioned before
>E: Hi :P
>P: Hey, nice outfit
>E: Thankssss, I just wanted to get comfyyyy
>After that, she just kinda walked around and performed menial tasks for a while, laundry, getting ready for bed/work tomorrow, etc.
>Apparently doing menial tasks in near nudity is a fetish I didn't know I had
>She ended up back on the couch after, and says she wants to watch one more episode before bed
1/?

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>>33521054
>I start the show back up and sit down
>E: I bought this for you, you knoooow. Why'd you just sit there and stare, ahah
>P: Sorry... I kinda liked just watching you
>E: Pervert :P
>P: Aren't you cold, Em?
>E: A little, let's snuggle :P
>Apparently by "let's snuggle", she meant "I'm gonna sit directly on your dick and pretend nothing's happening while we watch this dumb show"
>So we sit there for a while, with her fat ass pressed against my lap and my crotch wedged under it
>I just kinda held her and rubbed her stomach for some reason
>Eventually I kinda cup her boobs through her top and just rub them a little
>P: ...I do like this thing
>E: Heeheeh, that's good
>P: Can I say something weird, Em?
>E: Maaaaybe?
>P: I have another fetish
>E: What is itttt?
>P: I'm only telling you because I wanna be honest, it's not really a fetish we can do anything about
>E: Tell meeee
>P: ...I like the idea of getting the girl I love pregnant
>E: Hah, that seems pretty normal
>P: I guess it would be, if we were normal
>E: Paaaaat, we're normaaaaal
>P: ...What are you saying?
>E: Umm... I've always wanted kids, so...
>P: It would ruin our lives, Em
>E: Not right now, dumbasssss, we'll talk about it later, like waaay later, ahahah...
>P: ...You're actually okay with it?
>E: Umm, mostly, I still have to figure some things out...
>P: Well, anyway, like you said, let's not talk about this again for a long time
>E: Ahahah, but whatever happens happenssss
>P: Shut up, Em
>E: Don't be mean to your sister :P

>>33521022
>>33521054
ty for contributions

>>33521054
>>33521098
thanks for content even though mods are going full faggot mode

>>33521098
>>33521054

good luck at work but be sure to ask about anal next time.

im not the ass guy btw. but i am an ass guy.
(i did want you to eat her ass as well though)

over 30 min since last bump...

i know morale is low but a collective suicide isn't going to help.

keep this bumped.

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>>33521098
>whatever happens happenssss

BEST IMOUTO OMG

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>woke up today same time
>after morning ritual shit we end up fucking
>shower and go to stores to run errands and buy gifts
>stop at sex shop around 6
>passing by dildos and butt plugs
>sis asks for help from qt cashier
>says she wants me to have control
>does a double take looking at us
>ask her what
>oh you guys are a cute couple
>she shows us remote control vibe
>buy that vibe, strawberry flavor lube, and some crotchless tights
>anon that was such a rush basically telling someone we're gonna fuck
>get home and relaxing
>time for light show
>she sees me texting super qt from classes
>tell her whats up
>sis gets super pissed
>have a long discussion
>know we can't last forever
>says she'll go with me to keep me in check
>go to pick her up with sis in back seat
>turns out christmas light thing is some $5 golf cart ride through some rich ass neighborhood
>go to ihop after and we 3 share pancakes
>actually pretty fun, it's the two girls in the world i want to fuck
>drop off qt
>sister and i home
>end up chatting while cuddling on bed
>tell her i've never cum from bj
>is that a challenge anon?
>if you take it as one
>well i've never squirted
>k well then there will be a first soon
>both pass the fuck out
>I wake up to piss
>open laptop to check shit
>end up staying up way late again

just fuck my sleep cycle up guys

>>33522056
>sis gets super pissed

nigga its imouto or nothing...

>>33522056

PLEASE Cherish your Imouto and no one else.

PLEASE

>>33522056
literally just scored the hardest candidate in the world as his GF.

and wants to piss it away....

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>>33522056
>cucking your imouto
That's a big no-no

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>>33522323
my last bump of the evening.

Bumping
Originollie

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Consensual sibling incest with an age difference of three (3) years or less is the purest form of love.

>>33521098
>I just kinda held her and rubbed her stomach for some reason
Because you want to put your baby in there.

>>33518356
tfw another gunpla anon that wants to fug his sister

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>imouto cuddler
>Pat
>IcyHot
>X
>Worried Imouto
>Beargguy
>that one anon with a bratty dominant imouto hasn't posted in a while
Am I forgetting someone?

I wish I had an imouto. How do you go about finding a surrogate imouto?

Just playing imouto games while waiting for updates and bumping.

>>33523757
That other guy posting his completely fabricated series of cellphone novel roleplaying posts in these threads

>>33517056
Because youre an unoriginal spammer who wants others to revel in your fetish. Get a life, be your own person and stop being normie tier by trying to get XD SO RELATABLE (you)s

Go back to /d/ or /cm/ or whatever normie cesspool you came from

>>33524528
>get a life
>you're a normie

>>>/facebook/
>>>/reddit/

>>33524528
Fucking your sister is literally the most robotic thing you can do. Also, /r9k/ is for greentext stories, which these threads are full of.

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>>33524667
>Impotently fantasizing about fucking your sister is literally the most robotic thing you can do.

ftfy

>>33524684
Whatever. Thank you for keeping alive the kind of thread you so much hate.

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Keeping a promise to your imouto!

>Sister usually gets up around 5:30
>Tells me food should be ready around 6:40
>Promise her that I'll be ready by then
>"Suuure, whatever you say, ---."
>Kinda got annoyed, but it made me want to wake up early
>Luckily, with the help of my alarm and incentive to prove something to her, I do wake up in time
>A bit later than I wanted, but fug it
>Rush it to the bathroom to shower
>I notice that the kitchen is empty
>She's nowhere in the living room
>Her door is still locked
>She slept in
>It's fucking 6:20 and she slept in
>I start messaging her constantly to wake up like she did to me
>Finish showering, get dressed, and start making breakfast in her absence
>She still hasn't go up, but I hear her flip the light switch to her room
>I'm just sitting there at the table with the most smug look on my face
>She finally wakes up and comes stumbling into the kitchen
>"Try-hard"
>Felt good to be called that
>Sit down with her and we eat my deliciously made omelettes
>She gets up to put away her plate
>I just come from behind her and start patting on her back
>"There's always next time, slowpoke"
>She just mockingly repeats what I said
>I think she called me an asshole before she went to the bathroom to shower
>Just sitting here watching KoTH until I leave for work

I don't care for Tuesdays, but these types of mornings help me get through it.

>>33523701
ayyy who says I want to fug her? I'm as innocent as the hobby.

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Emergency bump

Dato

A bump to end all bumps

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>>33526218
Nope.

Bump.exe is loading...

>>33525269
When's she getting the onii-D?

>>33520239
You know you can click on someones ID number to reply to them right? Typing it out like @33520239 doesn't do anything.

>>33526531
By D you mean dinner, right?

>>33525269
>who says I want to fug her
Why wouldn't you?

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>>33526674
You should probably change your code.

>>33526674
Wat?
FUCKING ORIGATO

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>>33526696
Yee, that's what I get for posting at work. I'm sorry for being dumb. I'll just stop posting until I get back home.

>>33526736
Did I miss something? Why do you need to change your code?

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Hey all. The anal guy here. Sorry for not contributing to the bumper cars last night. Long work day. My moral is NOT low! Long live this thread!

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And now that I'm back, let the bumpers flow!

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>>33517056
>being surprised that janitors are doing whatever they want
It's been happening for months now on lots of boards.

>>33527342
Army-kun? Is it you??

>>33527482
No?
Who's that?
Oregano trail

>>33527636
A fellow who posted tons of army themed girls. Haven't seen him in two threads now

>>33524009
elementary school playgrounds.

>>33526917
because i am not bearguy

>>33527939
wait shit

>>33527957
>>33527939
wtf is going on m8?

>tfw still no imouto cuddler

What are we to do if even our original hero does not return?

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>>33528098
Sounds like someone is trying to subvert the thread, because it doesn't involve boipussy or black cocks

>>33528098
im should just fucking end it all man

>>33528141
yes, youm should

>>33528141
maybe this time i'll get it

>>33528124
Him and D are sick. Let a nigga rest

>>33528124
kill ourselves, and leave.
>>33528161
>>33528136
I think he just forgot his tripcode lol idk tho

>>33517056
These threads are garbage anyway.

>>33528186
if you want to clean this board go after the boipussy and black cok threads first

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>>33518820
>which I couldn't stand
>He made a mistake honestly.
Stop self-inserting, faggot.

You are not Kyousuke; Kyousuke loves Kirino.

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As long as these threads exist, the anal guy will be here...Bumping... Awaiting new tales

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>>33528298
This meme you are using is a property of the Board of Peace.

Cease this illegal redistribution right now!

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>>33528379
Suck me off, pig

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>>33525269
I'm sorry that I caused this issue. But none of those posts were me.

>>33528098
Bearman forgot to ## and posted his trip in plaintext.

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>>33528423
I didn't want to do it. But I see we have no choice.

Bring in... the Mike.

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>>33528499
B...But Hitler did nothing wrong!

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>>33528521
Let the autism of this amazing work compel you.

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>>33528570
Good Lord, the faggotry is strong with this one

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>>33528592
Come to think of it I should remind /ic/ this exists.

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>>33528622
Eh? Did I miss something?

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Quick morning bumper car!

>>33528428
I DONT KNOW WHICH BEAR IS THE REAL BEAR! I've got three questions for all you bears.
What time does the Krusty Krab open?
How much does a Krabby Patty cost?
on wednesday
Last question
If we're discussing the secret formula on the third Wednesday in January and it's not raining outside after we've gargled with vanilla pudding, what do we do?

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>>33529088
Dufuq did I just read?

>>33529231
Just my best spongebob meme

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>>33529253
Ah, OK. I never really watch it

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Another quick morning bump. I hope Pat is having a good first day at work

>>33529592
I doubt it. It IS work, afterall.

>>33529725
I dunno....One of the best jobs I've ever had was night crew stock manager at Petsmart. It was hard work, but man I miss it so much. Beats what I do now, for sure

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Lunch time bumper car!

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>>33530162
Another quick lunch time anal bumpage

>>33530554
Quick question for anyone able to answer. Are there any good archives other than desuarchive?

>>33530582
Not that I'm aware of, but I'm not the best answer on it. Perhaps another anon has proper archiving

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>>33530582
>>33530616
oreo origami oregairu

>>33530803
I've saved every thread as well. That's not why I asked.

>>33530803
You glorious bastard. Give us access to your knowledge sempai

>>33530803
Are all of those threads made by Pat and the gang of incestibles?

>>33530853
Most of them are IC. He sort of started this whole adventure. His stuff probably seems a little crazy because he's pretty much gotten into a full blown relationship right infront of us. It makes a lot more sense if you get to start from the beginning with him. His story is just special.

>>33530853
The third one is IC's, which started this all. The first two are ones I thought IC had posted in.

>>33530896
the first thread I saw was Saturday I think, do you have a link to all the past ones please anon? I want to catch up

>Be little sister by 9 years
>Have big brother
>Not attracted to him

oh, oh well

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Well bagging groceries is as monotonous as you'd think, but it's not so bad. The cashier does all the talking, and I just get paid to shove stuff in a bag.

I'll talk about last night some more later, I still haven't eaten lunch.

>>33530992
could potentially be because you didnt grow up with him like the rest of the people in this thread did. 9 years is quite the age gap to form a bond with a sibling

>>33531043
Thanks for checking in Pat! Hope the rest of work goes smooth

>>33523499
As this anon put it

>>33530992
'Consensual sibling incest with an age difference of three (3) years or less is the purest form of love.'

>>33531056
We used to be really close, I'd always watch him play games and make him breakfast in the morning and he'd let me go on his computer in return. Unless I was with friends, we'd pretty much be stuck together or doing something.
Then he got a girlfriend (now wife) and it all just kinda stopped. It was pretty weird since I thought he hated me or something.

I only really see him around holidays now for a couple of hours, though it feels like i'm closer to my cousins than him since we don't really have anything in common anymore

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>>33531111
Quads command you revive his gaming spirit

>>33531111
That's a tough age gap. You two are literally at different life stages.

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>>33522056
>NTR
S T O P

>>33531194
You came! Is this your first time in these threads?

>>33531158
He stills plays some steam games while I only really play xbox. Only time I really go on steam anymore is if i want to cry at dying a lot in dota

>>33531184
yeah :( hes married with a son and a house and a car, while im just living alone, dreaming that im still a teenager

>>33531111
im sorry anon, that sucks. thats the problem with such an age gap, they'll get girlfriends or boyfriends, get married and move on in life before you :(

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>>33531194
A LEGEND IN OUR MIDST

>>33531263
Shit femanon. I'm middle aged, and still think I'm a teenager. I heard an addage years ago: "If you didn't know how old you were, how old would you be?". It's stuck with me

>>33531384
Well im mid 20's, but hell going from that I'd be 16 again. I have food fights at work with coworkers, and last time I got drunk all I did was kiss everyone and touch everyones boobs

>>33531194
>she's here

holy shit

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>>33531058
Oh, I'm already home. Today was basically a short trial/training run, but the manager more or less said I'd have to be stupid not to pass, and to plan on coming back tomorrow.

>>33531194
You're that chick from /a/, right? I never heard your whole story. Did your brother give you the stinky pickle?

>>33531378
i-i am unaware of who that is... are they famous in imouto threads?

>>33531043
having any kind of job is good enough, good for you (seriously)

>>33531690
I'm wondering the same thing, Anon.

You fuckers killed incest threads with your shitty circlejerking

I fucking hate you all so much

>>33532359
GONNA MAKE ME BUMP THIS SHIT

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>>33517056
>being a pedo in 2016

For anyone uninitiated, Redline Imouto was an imouto who was on an /a/ thread maybe even 2 years? ago, who gabbed about her being a brocon.
But, her brother was also an /a/non, and when he started talking about his sister acting weird, he was pointed to said imouto posts and, lo and behold, love blossomed.

They didn't post much because it's weird narrating your life to the internet.

>>33530803
Here are the opening post numbers for every imouto-associated thread (ever since I started saving them) for anyone that's interested in reading the whole thing since the beginning. Search them in desuarchive. I have marked some of the important parts of the adventures of both imouto cuddler and Pat.

1 32436948 (thought that IC had posted in here but was not the case)
2 32459746 (same as above)
3 32522061 (IC first thread)
4 32504292
5 32534342 (IC first kissu with D)
6 32523860
7 32613444
8 32617641
9 32625671
10 32640544
11 32646118
12 32653402
13 32658135
14 32665217
15 32676792
16 32682093
17 32679139
18 32713695 (IC fingers D for the first time)
19 32741756
20 32754192
21 32763307
22 32771523
23 32806562
24 32793941
25 32865888
26 32892416
27 32905987 (Pat posts for the first time, /a/142692344)
28 33001688 (IC fugs D for the first time) (Em posts for the first time)
29 33057397
30 33074538
31 33148029 (Pat kisses Em for the first time)
32 33193805
33 33237503 (Pat fugs Em for the first time) (IC and D fug marathon while parents away)
34 33285903
35 33341057
36 33390356
37 33442679
38 33443802
39 33443902
40 33445781
41 33445912
42 33446120
43 33498303
44 33517056 (current one)

>>33533008
>They didn't post much
what a bunch of selfish cunts

>>33533016
thank you so much based anon

>>33533016
>>33533210
Note that in some threads you have to wade through a lot of content before getting to the actual imouto part (especially in the first 10-20 threads). Also a couple of the threads are not necessarily ones where any of our heroes have posted in, but rather someone just has mentioned them.

>>33533016
All this does is make me wonder where the fuck IC is and why he isn't posting. He's got to have had some opening where he feels like popping in.

>>33533016
>people believe the dogshit in these threads

It's not even remotely convincing. Hell, cliche shit aside, even looking at the posts here presents some pretty eyerolling shit.

>Pat kisses Em, and within two threads declares how he has since fucked her
Wow good going buddy, pretty impressive that you kissed your sister, and returned shortly after to tell us how you fucked her!

Similarly;

>IC fucks D, and a few threads later, explains parents are conveniently away and they're having non-stop sex

Wow, really joggs the ol' noggin

>>33533373
If he's got the flu, his ass might be totally laid up. It seems like it's going around right now. Icyhot-chan I think had it, too

>>33533436
It wasn't a few threads for IC, it was like 2 weeks. I admit Pat's story is a bit suspicious, though.

>>33533436
Thank you for the bump!
oreo

>>33532359
Incest threads used to just be a random thread where you could show up, talk about your siblings, aunts, mothers, ect. Share stories, fantasies, ect.

Then it got turned into a general where people circlejerk around obviously bullshit fanfiction written by sad fucks desperate for attention, and if you so much as mention anything these people don't like, you're shamed out of the thread. Fantasy people don't like? You're out. Bringing up a weird Fetish? You're out. Tripfagging your tales of kissing your sister, and conveniently talking about fucking her 3 hours later? Welcome aboard!

It's just 300 posts of "tfw no imouto" and "i love my imouto" and "let me tell you about how im totally fucking my imouto" by the same boring faggots

>>33533509
Who posted something worth reading and was shamed out?

>>33533542
I've only been in like half a dozen threads, but literally every time I come hoping for something interesting, but I just see people being told to fuck off for various reasons, while people circlejerk over the same make-believe shit (usually tripfags)

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>>33533585
Then I suppose the question becomes: why do you continue to come here?

>>33533585
>do you mind giving me an example of when we've pushed people from the thread?
>it's uhhhh, it's happened, I've seen it! It was for various reasons!

Fuck off m8, you just have a causeless vendetta about the threads.

>>33533611
I literally said in my post;

>every time I come hoping for something interesting

I don't find make-believe stories from the same handful of attention seekers interesting.

I'd even prefer some explicitly fake stories if they were good, not this lame circlejerk shit.

>>33533628
Do you at least realize the irony of your post?

>>33533679
I suppose that was my point anon. The standard you expect obviously is met here. So why return? The definition of insanity is doing something over and over expecting a different result

>>33533679
No, because it isn't there. Someone asked for you to give an example of your complaint and you didn't provide one. You're whining just to whine, there isn't anything else to it.

>>33533724
Like I said, I've only popped in half a dozen times when bored, I'm not really that upset about it, although I guess I can see how it seems like that.

but I do miss when there was incest threads here that weren't this shitty general, because they were good for something, rather than the lame stuff that happens here

>>33533765
>lame stuff
>literally an endless supply of wincest fap material

I don't get why you're being such a bitch about it

>>33533585
>>33533679
The only people that have been told to fuck off are
>"incest is disgusting11!!1"
>"your all nasty pedos"
>"hurr durr post you're imouto tits or i dont believ u"

Are you fuckers gonna keep discussing about pointless shit or are you gonna post about fucking people related to you

>>33533765
I understand your point. I also miss a time when B and r9k weren't filled with trap and black cock threads. Sadly, that's how it is now. So you either accept it and seek out gems, or move on to other pastures like 4+4 chan or voat

>he comes into a thread on 4chan expecting true stories
Now that's the real retarded thing

>>33533971
I never said that dipshit

>>33534116
Yeah you did. Your entire problem is that the stories aren't real. Again, you're just proving that you're whining just to whine.

>>33534189
No, my problem is that the threads turned into a circlejerk about tripfags and their shitty mediocre fake stories

I would gladly prefer people wrote explicitly fake stuff if it meant they weren't attention whoreing and trying to get an entire thread full of people to pat them on the back for "totally fucking their sister".

>>33534223
Lol. So it's an ego thing? You're complaining because you think that people are receiving too much attention? You're actually retarded.

>>33534256
No? You have the worst reading comprehension I have seen in a while

>>33534265
>muh reading comprehension

You wouldn't care about them getting attention if you didn't feel jealous that your ego wasn't being padded.

>>33533971
Wait, what?
People come here to LIE?
I call bullshit.

>>33534401
Nah, people come here to die.

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>>33534438
I can think of worse places to shove off from this mortal coil

>>33534461
/b/ is one of them, I'd imagine.

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>>33534487
I was actually thinking plebbit our Tumblr. B still makes me laugh sometimes. 4+4 is becomingy increasing hangout, however. It's closer to my antisocial Nazi ideology

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>>33518683
I never get the appeal of that shitty brat.

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>>33533008
>it's weird narrating your life to the internet.
You're not even wrong, I honestly only kept doing it because I'm easily pressured and people said they wanted it. It's a little exhausting, honestly, and I'm increasingly scared someone will figure out who we are.

So yeah, not to disappoint anyone, but I'll probably cut back on the massive updates from now on. But as long as there's an incest thread, I'll let the people who care know if anything interesting happens.

>>33533016
Why does this honestly make me feel bad that things happened so quickly. I could've avoided a lot of weirdness if I just fucking took it slow. But maybe nothing would've ever happened, who knows.

Anyway, sorry I'm so late, last night's events will be up in a second, even if they'll just make a certain person mad.

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>>33534676
Does it involve butt play, good sir?

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>>33534720
Not really, go check my last updates, it's just the continuation of that.

>>33521098
>As I said, she's sitting on my lap in her striped bra, panties and thigh-high socks
>After the weird pregnancy conversation, we just kinda sit there and relax for a while
>My hands are still on her chest, and her ass is still on my dick
>She gets fidgety after a bit, and before long she's slowly rubbing her ass against me
>I slipped my hands under her bra and played with her nipples in retaliation
>E: Haaah, what took you so long...
>P: ...Sorry?
>She's grinding for real now, I push her bra up out of the way so I can give them titties a proper rubdown
>E: P-Pat... panties, too...
>I guess shit's getting real again
>I get her to stand up, and after some effort (They wouldn't slide past her socks easily), I get them panties off
>She had removed her bra completely in the meantime
>There's my favorite ass and pussy again
>I took that chance to hop out of my pants in record time
>I was right about to try licking her some, but she kinda backed into me and we ended up on the couch with her on my lap again
>Oops, her crotch is on my condomless dick
>Oops, she's grinding again
>E: Paaaaaat, aaaaaah... fuckkkk...
>Fucking top moment of my life up until that point right there, even though I'm terrified
>P: Em, this is a bad idea, what did we just talk about...
>E: I love youuuu, Paaaaat...
>She thrusts back at a new angle
>Oops, I'm inside her a little
>She came a few seconds after that
>I literally had to think about eating dog shit to stop from cumming inside my sister
>E: PaaaaaAAaaaaaaat, guhhhhh...
>Got my dick outta there as fast as I could, doesn't mean it didn't get soaked
>She nearly slumped over off the couch, I caught her and held her close
>We stayed like that for a while, even after her orgasm finished

>>33534771
i cringed at half of this

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>>33534771
>E: Paaaat
>P: Yeah, Em?
>E: I want itttt...
>P: ...Alright, Em
>I carried her off to bed, then we kinda laid there and kissed for awhile
>I moved to her neck and intended to slowly kiss down her body, but I ended up at her pussy pretty quickly
>I basically made out with the damn thing, while she squirmed and squeaked the entire time
>I stopped once I thought she was gonna cum again
>P: Hey Em... is anal okay?
>E: Nooooo, not noooow...
>Ah well, worth a try
>I got up and acquired a condom, she rolled over onto her stomach and shoved her face into a pillow
>P: ...We're doing it like this?
>She mumbled something I couldn't hear and stuck her butt out a little, I assume it's a yes
>And so I fucked her from behind, not quite doggy style, I forget what the position is called, she had her face in the pillow the whole time
>I guess the mild disappointment of the condom after getting a taste of raw sex made me last longer or something, it felt like I was doing that for a while
>She's going nuts, I started playing with her clit a little in some attempt to make her cum at the same time
>Almost, I went a little overboard, she came first, and the vice grip made me nut soon after
>We stayed like that for a bit, then I discarded the condom and went to cuddle with her
>She gripped me kinda weakly, and we just kissed a little until she fell asleep

So yeah, there's my late update. Not much has happened since besides the grocery bagging. I let her sleep in this morning, but she got up to kiss me goodbye before I left.

>>33534800
Then don't read it, faggot.

>>33534844
Well I cant know if something is cringy unless ive read it, genius

>>33534834
You've got better control and willpower that I do Pat

>>33534834
I would start with plugs before you go straight to anal, she needs some time to get used to stuff going up there, takes a couple of weeks of messing around to get used to buttplay.

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>>33534942
You're probably right, I just couldn't help but ask. I really fucking wanted to cum inside her, man.

But yeah, I'll see if she's down with buttplugs. I guess we still haven't had a "serious" talk about anal, I'll try to make it happen.

>>33534834
prone bone

blox

>>33535125
Don't push the subject too hard. Don't want her turned off cause she thinks your obsessed

>>33535161
If she keeps asking/gets weirded out, just say you want to cum inside her. Since pregnancy is a no-no for now, the ass must do.

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>>33535132
She wasn't exactly laying flat, by the time we were done she was kinda on her knees with her ass up. Maybe that still counts as doggy, I dunno.

>>33535161
I won't, honestly I'm probably only pushing at all because you guys are a bad influence. But now I legitimately wanna try it.

She's home now, later fuckers.

>>33535290
What would be the pornstar equivalent of your sister? As in, closest body proportions.

I'm thinking Sasha Grey

help me for I can't fap without visualizing

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>>33535330
i don't know about pornstar but i remember him comparing her to saya from dagashi kashi

>>33517056
Sorry I haven't been able to dish out all the details of what happened over the weekend, and now I have even less time to post tonight, literally just a few minutes, so I'll at least post what happened in the shower

if anyone's confused as to what I'm talking about, just search this name in the archive

>so she invited/ordered me to go in the shower with her after I fingerblasted her
>that sounded pretty good actually considering how much pre-cum was in my boxers than
>she got off of me and actually pulled me up by the hand
>we were both breathing heavily, I smiled and told her that was the hottest thing I have ever done
>she laughed and said we'd cool off in the shower, not true.
>we walked accross the hallway, she jumped in the shower first and I got naked
>I was still hard as a mountain
>I walked in and closed the shower door behind me, it was already nice and steamy in there
>all that water running off her body, she was already soaped up nice and good
>I stepped off to the side so that the water would still be spraying on her
>her nipples were visibly stiff
>I finally cupped both her breasts in my hands and pinched her nipples
>she looked down at what I was doing, bit her lip, and looked back up
>I jokingly asked if this officially made me one of the girls now (a joke/reference to her and her friends doing gay shit in the lockers rooms and showers at school)
>she laughed, and again looked down and then back up at me, her head tilted up and looking me straight in the eyes
>she said "not exactly"
>what did she mean by this
>suddenly I felt her gripping me right by the middle of my cock
>I laughed and gasped at the same time, I said that yeah I wasn't exactly one of the gils
>she just said "uh-huh" and was now rubbing my shaft, still with an underhand grip and staring right at me
>I had to press myself against the glass of the shower, my knees were already getting weak
>cont

>>33535399
I'm not a weeaboo, so I wouldn't know what you're talking about.

>>33535415
PIC RELATED, YOU FUCKING BLIND NIGGER ALSO YOU CAN USE GOOGLE

>>33535445
I'd rather have him answer the question.

>>33535536
Same, but it seems he has left us :(

>>33535414
>she was then just teasing the tip of my dick with her thumb and finger, doing tiny strokes up and down my head
>still, she was giving me the tiny semen demon eyes
>she said that she had been fingered by loads of girls before (!) and that was the first time that she ever came that hard
>I was too shellshocked by her now returning the favor to say anything
>she asked if I learned to do that from that one girl I dated years ago (in b4 normie ree)
>I said, maybe, probably
>she switched from and underhand to overhand grip and was now stroking long and hard on every inch of my dick
>I mumbled something like "why what the"
>she said that she would go downstairs to grab a soda from the basement and that sometimes she would hear us fucking and sucking
>she was now stroking me harder and faster
>I asked if she was jealous or something
>she didn't really answer, but she said that it turned her on so hard, and that she'd masturbate on the floor outside my door and imagine that she was in a threesome with me and her
>what the fuck
>at that point I had my head banged up against the glass door and my eyes in the back of my head
>I then asked her how she learned to do "this"
>she laughed and said that she got some tips from her friends, but this was first time doing anything with a guy
>she asked if this was any good
>she was now hammering my dick
>all I could say was "oh god" and her name
>finally I looked down at her
>she had that devilish look on her face, but man her eyes were still that of my kid sis
>I moaned like a dying horse, probably
>I felt fireworks go off from my balls and going out my dick
>I shot the biggest load of my life
>it shot all over me, all over sis' stomach and tits
>she looked down and her eyes widened as she started to laugh
>I was also laughing, but also about to black out from cumming so fucking hard
>she said that that was gross but also kind of impressive
>I was still just cumming
>she kept washing herself off
>cont, final

>>33535414
Dude it's been 15 minutes. Did your imouto demand you to fuck her right away or what?

>>33535652
>she then took the showerhead off the wall and aimed it down my dick
>that would have made me cum again, if I hadn't emptied my balls just then
>she asked if I was okay
>I told her that was also the hardest orgasm of my life
>she giggled and said that she barely did anything
>I told her that she was so hot that she could make me cum by just staring at me
>she smiled and hugged me tight
>I hugged her back
>I told her that I had been waiting to do this for a while
>she said she felt the same way
>we held each other in the shower for a few minutes
>finally I said that we should really get cleaned up before I get worked up again
>she asked how long it would take me to get hard again
>I shrugged and said maybe like 20 minutes
>she had this "oh?" look on her face
>we did finally just end up taking a shower together
>we were in our bathrobe and she asked to stay with her in her room for a while
>I layed on her bed, and her using my chest as a pillow
>we just layed there for a few hours, not saying much, I just played with her hair and she kissed my chest a bit
>finally I checked the time, saw that our parents would be getting home soon
>I said I should be heading back to my dungeon
>she laughed, and thanked me
>I said that if she ever wants to "chill" again, she knows where I live
>she laughed and wished me goodnight as she got into her covers
>I gathered my clothes from the washroom
>went downstairs
>wondered if this was even real life anymore
>got high in my room and passed out

and then Sunday happened, but I gotta save that for when I have time to actually werite out what happened. I can hang out for like 10 more minutes if anyone wants to ask me questions or something

>>33535825
No questions bud. But that's a epic recount. Thank you so much for sharing with us. I can't wait till you can update more

>>33535536
>>33535584
I'm lurking with my phone when I get the chance.

I guess Sasha Grey is close enough, except with blonde-ish hair, smaller tits, less muscle, the tiniest bit of chub, and a rounder face.

>>33535675
Actually I spilled god damn water all over everywhere, but it's cool now.


but no as far as I can tell, sis only wants to use me as her booty call on weekends... although I guess we'd have to skip it this weekend because christmas... but we did actually fuck on Sunday and tbqh I'm fina with this only being a weekend thing because my dick still hurts

>>33535414
>>33535652
>>33535825
You never fail to make me hard
>and then Sunday happened
What did he mean by this? Did something bad happen?

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Sorry for my stupid mistake. I'll commit suicide soon.

>Get home from work
>As soon as I open the door, I can hear her practicing with her flute
>Leave her be and just take a load off in the living room
>She eventually stops playing
>I only get a few minutes of that silence before she comes out to greet me
>"All you do is wait for an opening to enter my room, don't you?"
>She's not wrong
>The only reason I go to my room is to change my clothes or sleep
>The rest of the day is just me hanging around in her room
>She's 17 and I'm still acting babysitter
>"Don't you get tired of just laying around in my room? Do something different, ---!"
>"Like you're the one to talk. You kept going on yesterday about how you're so bored"
>"I offered to be your ride, but you had an issue of being left stranded for some reason"
>Cute
>Get ballsy
>"I don't know.. wanna just make out?"

>>33536047
Why would you commit suicide?

>>33536075
apparently he wrote his tripcode with the ##

>>33536094
>>33536075
WITHOUT THE ########

>>33536094
I'm gonna be newfag and open to ridicule: please explain trip code to me?

>>33536047
for a second, i forgot about the tripcode problem and thought you meant asking about making out went really badly and now you're fucked.

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>>33535912
>Did something bad happen?

no, not at all, pic related actually. I gotta get going now though. cheers imouto lovers

>>33536119
basically he wrote his password and let people steal his code

>>33536148
Again, gonna newfag: password? This site has a login? please don't kill me

>I feel like the hottest shit right now
>I also feel weird in my stomach again
>Even if she says no, I finally said something
>May have been something stupid, but it's something
>In reality, I'm not the hottest shit I thought I was
>The reality is that I have a red hot face and stammered out my response as usual
>She was trying her best to hold in her laughter
>"Smooth talking, McLovin. Give me a ride, we need some more wrapping paper"
>Tried my best
>We goof around at the store and come back with the supplies
>Finally get back home and she helps me put away the rolls of paper
>Eh, what the hell
>"Y'know, the offer is still up""
>She starts pinching my arm
>"I keep forgetting what an oddball you are"
>I plop my oddball self on her bed

We're just frying our eyes by watching TV right now.

>>33536148
They tried, but I guess they failed. Still, I'm pretty stupid and will probably stop posting when I'm at work.

>>33536119
>>33536119
A pseudo-username. It's used to differentiate yourself from other posters when needed, it's mostly used to prevent anons overtaking another anon's story or argument or whatnot. Occasionally but very rarely it might be used for someone relatively famous or at least known to identify themselves and verify that they are actually posting on 4chan.


Last and certainly least, attention whores use it to get attention because they can't bear the thought of being anonymous on an anonymous message board and think that they're too cool for reddit. Those are tripfags.

>>33536186
Tripcodes work by placing a "#" after your name in the name slot and then a 'password' after the #. If you forget to include the # then the name just shows the password instead of random numbers and letters.

>>33536211
Thank you for the explanation. Not intentionally bring dumb just comes naturally I suppose

>>33536211
I should say that people posting here aren't tripfags because they're basically just making throwaway accounts only relevant to this particular thread.

>>33536186

You can "login" with a unique name a code if needed, but it's looked down on if not necessary and you're just doing it for the attention and posting pictures of yourself all over the board. Read the FAQ on the main page.

>>33536257
>I should say that people posting here aren't tripfags
except for >>33531194

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>>33536202
Sounds like you're SOL dude

>>33536202
>they
it was only me friend

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>>33536135
I'm glad that was the only issue. Live and learn.

>>33536331
That's alright, I can live happy with just one kiss.

>>33536714
Well, hopefully you can parlay into more dude

>>33536714
She hasn't said no. If you keep offering, she may take you up on it, eventually.

>>33536759
>>33536752
There's always Friday night. I'll try to fumble through it all like I usually do and see how I come out.

>>33536482
Sorry if I offended you, pal.

>>33536879
Wait so she kissed you and told you she was falling in love with you but she wont make out with you? fuckin reeee

>>33537291
She's probably too nervous.
Maybe shes never made out with anyone.

>>33537434
It would be nice if I were her first. She's in band and is more social than me, then again, I barely go out anymore with anyone that isn't her. So, it's not that much of an improvement.

She was asked out before, but I knew the kid from his older brother and he even agreed with me that he was a little shit. I'm glad she saw that too and turned him down. I recently saw his mugshot pop up on our local police department's Facebook for breaking into a church.

>>33537746
Jesus will forgive him

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Giving this fucker a friendly bump

>>33538655
fimal bumper cart for me my friends

>>33538988
Kek bless you, friend

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Picking up the bump torch!

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I picked a bad fucking time to say I'm gonna ease off on the greentexts. But I gotta go do something, so I'll keep this short anyway.

>Em wanted to shower together again
>Shit yes we doing it
>I probably seem excited now, but it was actually a weirdly calm and soothing time, borderline platonic
>We just chilled and washed ourselves and eachother and hugged a little and it was great and I love her
>Until she she was all "I wanted to do something for you, since you got a jobbbb"
>"And what would that be?", said the Pat
>And then she rubbed her ass on my dick
>P: Em, the condoms are in my room...
>E: Just don't put it innnn, you pervert :P
>And so she gave me a buttjob, or at least it was a buttjob until I just started humping her
>For some reason I felt compelled to nut all over her asshole, so it probably dripped onto her pussy, but I'm too happy to care right now
>Except now that I've typed that the dread is setting in, oh god
>Regardless, then she started to suck me off
>I guess she learned from her other attempts, it was pretty good
>But fuck, she must've really wanted me to nut again, she took forever, our dad's gonna kill us when he see's the water bill
>I gave a kinda half-assed nut in her mouth, since she said it was okay last time, and she swallowed, reiterating that it's "Really not that bad"
>I love this woman too much, fuck
>Our house has just been a snuggle factory ever since

So yeah, everything's pretty good right now. Hot water kills sperm, right?