Why do normalfags love him

He is actually very popular amongst people who identify themselves as misunderstood and tortured geniuses.

>>30969521
Never met a normie who liked him. He just doesn't believe in objective truth so autists can't into Nietzsche.

>>30969548
Which is most normalfags

>>30969571
>Which is most normalfags
Not necessarily.
Though I suppose Schopenhauer is more popular here.

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>>30969521
>lived in solitude
>walked funny
>had an obsession with language
>hated mainstream
>had a disdain for chads
>had a routine
>ended up crying for a whipped horse and lived the rest of his life as a NEET
>tfw you realize Nietzsche was a robot

>>30969521
Normalfags don't read. Ever. Anything.
Your argument is absolutely invalid.

Maybe they saw some memes on him on Facebook and decided the whole god is dead thing is a good way to express how progressive they are for ditching religion. This is bound to get them some ally pussy.

Other than that, the idea of Chad reading a philosophy book is laughable. It's like seeing a little tiny dude climb on stage in a muscle-man pageant

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>>30969708
>the idea of Chad reading a philosophy book is laughable

>>30969521
They heard one or two quotes and go WOW SO SMART and then repeat it over and over and over without understanding it.

The despicable normie.

Nietzsche was a shitty normie too so who cares, really.

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>>30969708
Yeah, you're probably right about that facebook thing.

>>30969708
I like how Chad is unintelligent and worse than you in your fantasy. Most real chads are more intelligent than the average robot and most real robots don't read philosophy.

Normalfags don't love him, normalfags pretend to love him because he's slightly edgy and telling Stacy that you read Nietzsche somehow makes Chad look like an intellectual.

In my philosophy classes this one Chad would carry around Beyond Good and Evil, in his hand, and would always place it on his desk, even though we weren't learning Nietzsche. One day I asked him what he thought of the book, to which he replied that he has yet to finish it and wouldn't want to give an, to quote Chad, "unrefined opinion". Whatever, I thought, I know that he hasn't read it and probably never will because he's too busy getting drunk every weekend and socialising with other normals. A couple weeks later he stopped bringing the book in to class, and instead brought in JS Mill's "On Liberty". So I asked him if he had finished Beyond Good and Evil, to which he replied "well, not exactly, you see, it wasn't my book, I borrowed it from the library and had to return it." Okay, so how far to did you get into it? "Well, I didn't really read it in the conventional way, haha, I didn't read it from start to end, I kind of picked which parts I read and which parts I missed out, haha".

At that point I was certain that he hasn't read it, and I didn't feel like putting him in a corner, so I stopped asking about it. But that should serve as an example of normals reading philosophy. It's all for show. He won't read Mill's book either.

>>30969810
>I like how Chad is unintelligent and worse than you in your fantasy


>I like it how Chad is this superior ubermensch in your cuckhold fantasy. That cute blue eyes, blond hair and that big old Wittgenstein in his hands

Look, I don't think me being able to stare at books written by old dead people for 2 hours a day is an extremely impressive trait that makes me inherently superior to anyone, especially to a socially successful person- but it's definitely something I know Chad doesn't do.

>>30969914
I've read Nietzsche and fucked around 30 girls.

>>30969914
>reading books by those who are alive is better

>>30969708
I'm a normie and I'm reading a book right now called "The Rift: A New Africa Breaks Free"

>>30969521
no ones knows about steiner

>>30969571
You mean most robots?

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>>30969943
What do you accomplish by making up a complete lie on an anonymous anime message board?

>>30970009
>What do you accomplish by making up a complete lie on an anonymous anime message board?

I guess we could either ask him what pussy tastes like or pose some question about Nietzsche's philosophy that solicit's an in-depth answer, but he could just Google both so let's just applaud this Zaratustra incarnate.

They really don't, they love the popculture version of him that's easy to penetrate

>>30970000
I know about Steiner. He's just the less imaginative Nietzsche.

If you read Nietzsche before Steiner, you will gain no new insights. If you read Steiner before Nietzsche, you learn that writing style matters.

>>30970000
checked
very original

>>30970032
>>30970009
Wtf why is that impossible? I had to read beyond good and evil for my philosophy class in college.bIt's really wasn't even that difficult.

>>30970009
>>30970032
Isn't it ironic that you insult others for saying they only read Nietzsche to be superior... Then you act as if you're superior and someone as inferior as me could never read it??

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>>30970103
There's either 2 possibilities
1) You are lying
2) You're a normie who needs to leave /r9k/

You've got to pick one

>>30970144
Look nigga I don't know who the fuck you are. You could really be this cool muscly dude who reads Nietzsche inbetween bench presses and kudos to you. Or you could be some half-literate Mongolian with internet access pulling some elaborate classic "chong-oun-sin-la Trolling". it's an anonymous image board, trying to imply anything about your identity is obviously gonna be called out as bait or fake.

But I'm saying most people with decent sex lives don't read philosophy books. It's as much of a criticism of a fucken nerd's life as it is of Chad's.

>>30969857
I remember watching this normie tv show
I don't remember what it was called but it centered around the female lead from the scary movie franchise being a single mom
anyway
she goes on this one night stand with this alcoholic guy who she thought was a dirtbag but then she finds out that he reads Nietzsche and Plato and Schopenhauer and somehow perceives him to be virtuous because of this
really made me thing

>>30970187
I wouldn't say I'm Chad. I was in a fraternity but my life is shit. I only got laid cuz I'm attractive. I don't have any friends now that I'm out of school. So I guess you're kind of right.

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>>30969666
>tfw you realize Nietzsche was a robot
Trips do not lie.

>>30969708
>the idea of Chad reading a philosophy book is laughable
Chad has good looks and social skills, but he also needs to be intelligent in order to perform well academically and gain a lot of money so that he can score true 10/10's all day, every day.

>>30970493
most countries dont have the "college chad" type
most chads here earn way less than fgts

>>30970526
>most chads here earn way less than fgts
Alpha Negative Type.

>>30969521
If you read Thus Spake Zarathustra you'd understand.

Zarathustra came down the mountain to enrich the normies with his wisdom.

Now normies know of him but they never actually know him.

Zarathustra should have just stayed in his cave and lured like-minded people with trails of honey.

Normies don't deserve the honey.

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>tfw I read pic related to not feel like a useless worthless piece of shit

>>30969571
Nah every person on this fucking board (and to a lesser extent this site) thinks they're genius but they've been 'ridiculed by society' so their genius can't flourish. These are the same people who call themselves smart but lazy. Pro tip: 90% of dumbasses call themselves smart but lazy.

>>30970726
>the human brain has no nuance and you're either a genius or a dumbass, and there's no such thing as disorders, abnormalities and outside influences that determine someone's place in the world despite mental capability

Protip: you're the dumbass

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>>30969755
I don't think Chads would read Evola

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Because meme-able philosophers like Nietzsche attract the sorts of people who either casually read philosophy or who desire to cheaply justify pre-existing viewpoints. Historically speaking, this sort of thing happens from time to time. Conservatives back in the day were going nuts over Ayn Rand. Liberals and leftists have been sucking John Rawls's dick since the 80's.

An existential nihilist like Nietzsche appeals to those contemporary hipster types who see themselves both as misunderstood geniuses in hiding and victims of a cruel unfair system. "Muh college debt, muh social justice, but my life is meaningless so hue hue I'm super self-aware. Let's all drink craft beer!" He also criticized Christianity, appealing to fedoras, and straw-man criticized stoics, appealing to body positivist types and the mentally ill.

>>30970783
Yeah but there's no way everyone here is just a genius but lazy. If you genuinely believe that the majority of meme spouters here are actually intelligent but just underachieving than you're actually retarded.

>>30970817
I don't believe everyone here is a genius but I believe the average IQ would be somewhere around 115-120

Nietzsche is pro Chad, in fact his "yes to life" is pretty much be as Chad as possible. He preffered master morality over slave morality(majority of robots) if those 2 were the only options.

>>30970807
but Nietzsche's criticism of Christianity is very different from le egalitarian secular humanist reddit pro criticism

>>30970807
I'm seeing Stirner pop up a lot recently amongst people who want to appear edgy and alternative while keeping their bluepilled normie beliefs and not falling in line with the /pol/ narrative at all

>>30969521
normalfags hate him because he says women are useless and evil.

>>30970807
>and straw-man criticized stoics

>Independence is for the very few; it is a privilege of the strong. And whoever attempts it even with the best right but without inner constraint proves that he is probably not only strong, but also daring to the point of recklessness. He enters into a labyrinth, he multiplies a thousandfold dangers which life brings with it in any case, not the least of which is that no one can see how and where he loses his way, becomes lonely, and is torn piecemeal by some minotaur of conscience. Supposing one like that comes to grief, this happens so far from the comprehension of men that they neither feel it nor sympathize. And he cannot go back any longer.

He was a fucking stoic.

>appealing to body positivist types

He literally did the opposite. He was very dismissive of alcohol and other mind altering substances. He also talked about healthy diets to keep the mind clean.
>The thought of suicide is a great consolation: by means of it one gets successfully through many a bad night.

He was a robot. Deal with it.

You clearly never read any of his books because your image of Nietzsche is exactly that of one who just read some of his quotes on facebook.

>>30970853
>doesn't understand where the "yes to life" comes from

It's exactly out of trying to overcome the many "no's to life". You don't question the reason to live if you've never faced enough adversity to end it.

>The thought of suicide is a great consolation: by means of it one gets successfully through many a bad night.

>>30970835
kek, more like 100
people here are pretty stupid man

>>30971000
Oh ok maybe now it's around that

A few years ago when this place was still crowded with aspies it would have been higher

>>30970915
>stirner
>bluepilled and normie

>>30971048
precisely
we live in a world where you're more of a fringe outcast by having ideals and principles than by living a world of hedonism and egoism
welcome to 2016

>>30971090
Stiner's egoism isn't inherently hedonistic.

>>30971090
Only if you're a teen or in your early 20's. Once people grow up a life of drunken hedonism is frowned upon or even look at as pitiful.

>>30971090
>we live in a world where you're more of a fringe outcast by having ideals and principles than by living a world of hedonism and egoism
because slowly the world is becoming smarter and realized that hedonism and egoism is better than having pointless ideals and principals

>>30970853

i have the feeling too that he is tremendously pro-chad

in his criticism of christianity he basically accuses it of espacially supporting the weak

he would despise NEETS and would let them starve if they dont work

>>30970868
>but Nietzsche's criticism of Christianity is very different from le egalitarian secular humanist reddit pro criticism
Doesn't matter. They'll use the quotes anyways because it suits their narrative.

>>30970915
Stirner is not as badly abused as Nietzsche, but he's getting there.


>>30970948
>He was a fucking stoic.
No he wasn't. He mocks the stoic doctrine of living in accordance with nature, rather poorly too I might add. Go read Beyond good and Evil again. No need to go look it up, here's a free version and some further reading since you clearly don't understand what you're talking about.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/4363/4363-h/4363-h.htm Chapter I section 9.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nietzsche-moral-political/ ctrl+ f "stoic"


>He literally did the opposite. He was very dismissive of alcohol and other mind altering substances. He also talked about healthy diets to keep the mind clean.
This is true, but the people I was specifically criticizing don't care about any of that.

>He was a robot. Deal with it.
Probably yeah, but I never claimed he was or wasn't; stop projecting your bullshit onto me.

>You clearly never read any of his books because your image of Nietzsche is exactly that of one who just read some of his quotes on facebook.
You clearly haven't read any of his books, or know anything about stoicism, because if you did, you'd have known about the philosophical inconsistency he demonstrates in criticizing stoicism-- in the first fucking chapter of Beyond good and Evil-- and recognized that the version of stoicism he attempts to attack is a strawman. And another thing, "your image of Nietzsche is exactly that of one who just read some of his quotes on facebook." is exactly the type of person I'm criticizing.

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I can already feel my disappointment at a bunch of autistic retards pretending to understand Nietzsche, and probably Stirner as well.

>>30969521
Normies do not like Nietzsche, they like a very small selection of quotes which they spread on facebook. Usually the ones about dancing or nihilism. I've encountered so many fucking retards who claim to be nihilists while posting this guy's quotes despite the fact that Nietzsche thought someone who understood what nihilism was and accepted it for what it was was basically human garbage.

Nietzsche's core points, that God is dead and secular humanism isn't a viable replacement, that christianity = liberalism = socialism = feminism = anarchism and ALL of them are dogshit that won't actually deliver you into their promised 'emancipation' but rather into the hands of soul crushing life denial and nihilism, that free will is a lie, good and evil are lies, and ultimately that the truth does not exist, are completely antithetical to the typical normie's thought processes.

NEETzsche is completely anti-normie in every way. His philosophy holds that the 'ideal man' is a radical individual who has no shame, gives no shit at all what normies think of him and works to complete his goals and projects without the burden of Christian virtue around his neck, a man beyond good and evil.

>>30971499
>what nihilism was and accepted it for what it was was basically human garbage
no he didn't, beyond nihilsm everything is built self delusion including his ubermench crap

>>30971631
That's a nice opinion friend. Too bad it's not at all reflective of his thought and his constant insults directed at nihilistic anarchists in Russia.

>>30970223
>I wouldn't say I'm Chad
>I was in a fraternity
Why do you want to fit in in a club of losers, "brah"? We are not cool. We are fucking pathetic. You don't belong and never will because you are conventionally attractive. Get the fuck out.

>>30971429
>No he wasn't. He mocks the stoic doctrine of living in accordance with nature, rather poorly too I might add.

No, he has a fucking point. Stoics who claim to live according to nature but then discard emotions are literally doing the opposite of living according to nature. He's criticizing the hypocrisy that some stoics like to spout. Not stoicism itself.

Stoics living according to nature is an oxymoron. That's the whole point. Not that there's anything wrong with Stoicism itself.

The stoicism Nietzsche exalts is of the school of Zeno.

>The school taught that virtue, the highest good, is based on knowledge; the wise live in harmony with the divine Reason (also identified with Fate and Providence) that governs nature, and are indifferent to the vicissitudes of fortune and to pleasure and pain.

The main difference is GOVERN nature, not living in accordance with it. Which he explains in Ecce Homo.

"The yea-saying to life, even
to its strangest and hardest problems;
the will to life, rejoicing over its
own inexhaustibility in the sacrifice of its highest types.
Not to be free of fear and pity, not to
purge oneself of a dangerous emotion through a vehement discharge - thus Aristotle misunderstood it - : but to be above and beyond fear and pity, to be oneself the eternal joy of Becoming itself - that joy which also includes the joy in destroying."


"The doctrine of the "Eternal Recurrence," that is, of the unconditional and endlessly repeating circulation of all things - this doctrine of Zarathustra could possibly in the end also have been taught by Heraclitus. At least the Stoics, who derived all their fundamental ideas from Heraclitus, possessed traces of it."

He's able to differentiate different schools of stoicism, you clearly can't. Start with the greeks.

>>30969943
Same. More than 30 tho

>>30971631
>ubermench crap
The Ubermensch is beyond concepts, which puts him ''above'' nihilism and delusion. He is beyond good and evil. He is a truly unique individual in this universe.
No human can probably achieve this state.