What's your excuse robots? http://www.themodernman.com/

I'm pretty far below average

By being tall

Im an ugly dork currently talking to a nice Thai girl. She's 18 and 9/10. Highly recommend it.

>how do average women get hot guys
The funny thing is it's truer but an article titled that would get shat on

>>26330635
>insert that picture of a downie with the cute bf.

>>26330554
>Just wait till women are used up from the cock carousel. See? Nice guys don't finish last XD

She will end up leaving him. Always happens, always will.

>>26330554
my 9/10 gf has been with me for more than four years and I look just like this guy. feels good man.

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>>26330554
R9K BTFO! ROBOTS ON SUICIDE WATCH! ENTIRE WORLDVIEW OF THOUSANDS OF AUTISTS CRUMBLING INTO DUST BEFORE THEIR VERY EYES!

But really OP, your thread won't get any replies because its true and it challenges the r9k groupthink.

Start a thread that targets people's insecurities instead. Start a thread about how 5 inch penises are microdicks, or how 5'9'' is manlet height, despite both being the average measurements for men in the western world. Guaranteed 300 responses and lots of (You) upvotes

>>26330554
They are both jews.

>>26330994
>>26330554
>If a man is able to make a woman feel attracted to him in other ways (e.g. humor, charisma, charm, confidence, etc), she actually starts to look at his physical appearance in a positive light.
There you go, i have no redeeming qualities, it doesn't challenge the r9k worldview, it confirms the fact that you must be valuable to get gfs.
Fuck your "le snarky comment" bullshit

>>26331122
Nice double dubs... but you're full of shit.

>There you go, i have no redeeming qualities, it doesn't challenge the r9k worldview, it confirms the fact that you must be valuable to get gfs

If the r9k worldview were simply, as you say, "you need value to have a gf", then this could be a board about self-improvement. But its not, its a board about wallowing in self-pity and blaming things outside of your control for your problems.
>tfw shit genetics
>tfw manlet
>tfw dicklett
>tfw autism, but not really because getting diagnosed by a professional is a lot of hassle.

Humor, charisma, charm and confidence can all be learned and practiced. You can aquire the value necessary to get a gf. This goes against the r9k victim narrative that robots tell themselves. Its far more comfortable to believe that you're a helpless victim, than to have to take responsibility for improving your life.

Also "if you ever improved your life in any waythen you never were a robot and you were just a shy normie all along and should get off this board, reeeee" etc.

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What's your excuse?

huh?

Chosen for wealth or being a cuck. No thanks

>>26331544
>If the r9k worldview were simply, as you say, "you need value to have a gf", then this could be a board about self-improvement. But its not, its a board about wallowing in self-pity and blaming things outside of your control for your problems.
So you buy into the "robots suck dick narrative, there's nothing i can do to change your mind i know it so i won't waste your time with pointless arguments in this area
>Humor, charisma, charm and confidence can all be learned and practiced. You can aquire the value necessary to get a gf.
Sorry but all those things need some good background to keep it from collapsing
>Also "if you ever improved your life in any waythen you never were a robot and you were just a shy normie all along and should get off this board, reeeee" etc.
I don't see why people that escaped robothood would keep coming to this place.

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>>26330554
We aren't "average guys." These decent-looking dudes get girls because they have social skills, charisma, charm. We don't have these.

i'm a 5'2'' midget

>>26330554
i am unemployed and live with my mother .

>1. beta/nice guy
"r u a model?"
"I really like you!"
":-)"

>2. supreme gentleman
"I fucking hate women"
"stupid friendzone"
"I hate you, Chad!"

>3. into the abyss/MGTOW
"treat them like trash and they'll like you"
"I hate being so alone"
"women are fuck objects, nothing more (but they scare me)"

>4. Ubermensch

Once you overcome the first three stages you will reach a point where women no longer frighten and intimidate you. You will become a confident person who doesn't particularly hate women.

>>26331544
>Humor, charisma, charm and confidence can all be learned and practiced.

they can't be learned passed adolescence

I'm below average

>>26332211
>just become ubermensch

>>26330554

>Author's bio: I'm a dating and relationship expert. ... I would love to help you too. View CUSTOMER success stories, browse my PRODUCTS or watch this mind-blowing video about success with women.

In other words, buy into PUA Bullshit. Might work, might not, but it will cost you. GUARANTEED

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>>26331726
>Sorry but all those things need some good background to keep it from collapsing
You seem to think that "learn a skill" means "pretend to have a skill"

You can learn to paint, and once you learn how to paint, you can actually paint. You don't just act as though you can paint.

>I don't see why people that escaped robothood would keep coming to this place.

I like the allegory of Plato's cave.

>>26332215
>they can't be learned passed adolescence

I learned social skills from books and practiced on random people when I was 25. When I started I couldn't even hold eye contact with people and didn't know how to hold a conversation. I thought I had some kind of autism for most of my life, but apparently I just had shit social skills.

But its okay, keep thinking up excuses, next time try not to think up an excuse that is directly contradicted by the existence of the massive self-help and pickup artist industries that make their livings teaching people social skills.

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>>26330734
thoughtcatalog.com/anonymous/2014/04/dear-nice-guy-i-wasnt-ready-for-you-before-but-i-am-now/

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>>26332439
>In other words, buy into PUA Bullshit. Might work, might not, but it will cost you. GUARANTEED

This always makes me laugh. PUA is literally designed to teach guys like you how to interact with girls. Yet you shun it because "its a scam", despite there being so much free material available that you never have to part with your hard-earned neetbux to learn it.

But it represents the idea that you can actually fix the problems in your life, rather than just accepting the comfort of being a miserable victim of circumstance, and this notion offends and scares you more than anything.

>>26333257
>pickup artist
stopped reading there

>>26333257
>But its okay, keep thinking up excuses, next time try not to think up an excuse that is directly contradicted by the existence of the massive self-help and pickup artist industries that make their livings teaching people social skills.
Books written to exploit desperate people for money

>>26333344
>free PUA
Are we getting brigaded or some shit?
Same board, different threads, same posts
Also
I don't see how reading some blog written by guys who teach men how to get pussy in some "bootcamp", will provide any benefit for me

Not only am I ugly, I'm also boring and have such low self esteem and bitterness that I distrust and preemptively dislike people before they have a chance to dislike me.

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>>26333350
So you got to the end? good job. You're a dumbass. See >>26333344

>>26333366
No you're thinking of porn, anime and video games, things that keep you where you are. Books aren't supposed to keep you where you are, if people didn't get anything valuable out of them then they wouldn't get good reviews or people like me recommending them.

Maybe you should actually try reading a book, any book, rather than spending all your time on this board reading the same miserable shit written by faggots like yourself.

Here's a search engine for free book pdfs btw.
http://bookzz.org/

I recommend availing yourself of it.

>>26333503
>Same board, different threads, same posts
Considering that nothing new ever comes out of this shitty echo chamber, all of your excuses already have well-established answers.

>I don't see how reading some blog written by guys who teach men how to get pussy in some "bootcamp", will provide any benefit for me

You're right, you're way better off instead reading a board populated by guys who are bitter depressed shut-in neet hikikomori perma-virgins who think they know all about women and relationships. Makes perfect sense.

>>26333724
>he is posting in r9k, he must be an illiterate dumbshit
Is this what PUA teaches you?
Being a snarky little shit who' only answer is "no u a shit" is Alpha?
Making sweeping generalizations (same as r9k does) is an enlightened attitude?

Look up at night. Look at the stars. Count them.

That's how many side-Chads she has.

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>>26333806
>responding to tone... on 4chan
m8

>Making sweeping generalizations (same as r9k does) is an enlightened attitude?
Nice little get-out clause you gave yourself. Its okay for you to make sweeping judgements and dismiss all self-help and pua because "its a scam", but if I generalize robots (on an anonymous imageboard of all places) then suddenly that's bad and somehow invalidates my points.

I don't even do pua anymore. I did it years ago and it helped me lose my virginity at the age of 26. I have sympathy for robots, and I recommend pua to them because it is a valid solution to some of the problems that they complain about.

But it really doesn't matter to me or anyone else if you ever solve your problems, I'm not the one who's miserable. If you're going to stay miserable because you're too fucking proud to learn anything, or read things written by people who obviously know more than you do about certain subjects, then enjoy your misery, because you deserve it.

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>>26333344

> Yet you shun it because "its a scam", despite there being so much free material available that you never have to part with your hard-earned neetbux to learn it.

Did I not say
>Might work, might not
?

Now, I acknowledge it might help people who are out there to form a relationship on a shallow foundation. I know picking up tipsy/drunk chicks at bars/clubs isn't rocket science admittedly, I'm not a virgin but I wouldn't count on those "social dynamic" techniques landing you the love of your life, specially if that's not your scene to begin with.

It's not about being "cheap" it's about the cost of those seminars costing more than the average early-20s kid can afford. Please, point me towards this free material, preferably somewhere that no-so-subtly suggest theres more "secrets" behind a $500 paywall.

> it represents the idea that you can actually fix the problems in your life, rather than just accepting the comfort of being a miserable victim of circumstance

AS DO MANY OTHER THINGS. You can listen to motivational videos, TED talks, watch "inspirational" movies or read self-help books to get the same kind of "feel good" vibes.

All I meant to point out in my original comment was that it was AD COPY.

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>guy is clearly like 6'3"
>"how did he get an attractive girl interested in him????"

>>26334476

thats the funniest part about hearing some girl try and explain why she stayed with 6'3 Chad.

>ummm we just connected

bullshit you stupid lying bitch

>>26330554
That's his sister.

She looks way hotter in left picture.

Fucking manlets, being tall isn't any kind of instant pass.

I'm tall and a KV into my mid 20s - probably because I'm afraid of women and making any advances and will essentially flee from any advances a woman makes on me.

>>26334559

>That's his sister.

OK. You know what, the secrets to having an incestuous affair might be worth throwing $500 at.

>>26334593
>kv

Fuck off normie. Only ECLHKV's are allowed here

>>26334619
Not that anon, but humor me, what does the "ECL" part stand for?

>>26334645
Eye Contact-Less

I have never made eye contact with a woman.

>>26330623
>Thai
>girl
Anon I'm worried about you and your choices

>>26334711
kk that genuinely got a chuckle out of me

>>26334711
Dude, that's more on your part than anyone else. Seriously, eye contact is something people do on mistake all the time.

r u rusin me

>>26334444
>Please, point me towards this free material, preferably somewhere that no-so-subtly suggest theres more "secrets" behind a $500 paywall.

The greatest information tool in the history of mankind available to you, and you ask me to spoonfeed you.

Firstly there's a fuckload of different types, different styles and philosophies. Find one that resonates with you.

Secondly nobody who is charging for a course is teaching anything that you can't find somewhere else for free, people pay because they like and trust that particular person. And even if you do like a particular instructor well enough to want their paid shit, but not well enough to actually pay, then try your luck with torrents.

>Now, I acknowledge it might help people who are out there to form a relationship on a shallow foundation. I know picking up tipsy/drunk chicks at bars/clubs isn't rocket science admittedly, I'm not a virgin but I wouldn't count on those "social dynamic" techniques landing you the love of your life, specially if that's not your scene to begin with.

The old "PUA is just for picking up clubsluts" meme. I love it when people's stated reasons for not using something are completely wrong.

The "bang clubsluts" type of Mystery method pua shit is about 10 years old, in the last decade the field has moved on. There's plenty of insight that will allow you to have a more substantial relationship if that's what you're looking for. Models by Mark Manson might help.

Oh look you can get it for free too: http://bookzz.org/s/?q=models+mark+manson

>>26335012

>The greatest information tool in the history of mankind available to you, and you ask me to spoonfeed you.

Not really doing it for the material, you made a claim and I felt the burden of proof rests with you.

>Models by Mark Manson might help.

Alright, I'll look into it. Thanks

Honestly, I just feel like PUA is a new wave of "self-help" geared towards men. I guess I'm just sore that it's marketed so aggressively. I never meant to dismiss PUA as a whole, but I think it's in my best interest to focus my energy and time on my career and not my romantic life.

Of course, that's just me, and I know most robots wouldn't accept me in their "exclusive club" if they could bar me from entering.

So now tell me, what stake or part do you have in the PUA community? Honestly, what drives you to defend it on an anonymous Chilean Mouse trap aficionado announcement board?

>>26334476
>skinny
>glasses
>no jaw
>somehow a chad, regardless of height

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>>26330623
>talking to

>>26330554
That man is actually gay.

All those articles, man, are just elaborate ways to make losers feel like shit.
Something I constantly see is that men only care about looks. Then what about all the women that are ugly? When I was younger I had plenty of friends with ugly as fuck mothers. They just perpetrate the myth that girls just care about personality and men only care about looks to make you aim for a total cute and then end up alone and it's all your fault.
Fuck that, man, women and men care the same about looks and personality.

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>>26330554
>all tall
>all white