WWIII Risk Continued

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>>482931
*7 nations, 7 Factions, soz

Here, what time tomorrow?

ayy, my pc is retarded

>>482931
...look at how fucking small the posts numbers are...

Uge dick

>>482941
yep dice required

>>482943
any good RNG sites?

OK, 5 FACTIONS PRESENT


ROLL HERE!!!

>>482946
How long is this gonna be? I'm probably going to drink coffee (it's like 2:38 AM)

>>482948
i need to get cigs.

>>482943
ok...how do i do that? never done it and am huge potato...

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Bs

>>482937
we normally start searching for rollers between 1800-2000 EST. If we get going it is normally rolling along by 2200-000 EST.

>>482952
noice, I thought you use like paint.

>>482952
Ubuntu. Nice.
Dark theme. Also nice.

I put mine in the other thread...

Rolled 75262 (1d99999)

>>482948
>>482946
Ill go as long as we have at least 4 rollers... and hopefully we call gn not gg and continue tomorrow on this thread... it will be here i know it

>>482951
type

dice+1d99999

into the Options bar under name

Rolled 1876 (1d99999)

k, see y'all tomorrow, need to sleep

>>482958
extremely nice bro. always be prepared.

>>482961
wowwowwow where's your battlestation m8

mine
>>>/tg/48840527

>>482956
i use ubuntu so that is the paint for me... not wanting to use wine

Rolled 53872 (1d99999)

test roll

>>482967
i use GIMP. so fucking complicated. and yeah, wine is tricky. trying to make Mint16 work... i miss Ubuntu but i want beard length :/

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>>482965
Ok, haha, upgrading soon,

>>482968
if you are ubuntu/linus see about this Kolourpaint, simple and easy to use... i hate gimp on ubuntu... i mean the whole multiple panes and shit... gimp is a gimp

So i guess this one is on ice for now. imma post my notes from this, and if y'all (lol its probably just you and me) we can discuss the Great Game as well.

>>482974
no shame m8. ive been slowly isolating myself from humanity for a long time

NOTES

UN Risk
Consider adding:

>Peace Keepers

>Declared Location of Fissile Material Storage

>Naval Blockades

Consider Revising

>DUB/TRUB/etc values due to /tg/ post# predictability

>>482974
>>482968
>>482967
>>482935
>>482937
>>482939
>>482942
last call for rolls... are we rolling or waiting until tomorrow nigh.
I can resume this thread at 9 pm ET

>>482980
i think we are to light to go forward...

>>482980
Ok, 9PM EST.
>>482978
How can I isolate when I'm on my living room?
Can't put PC in my room, wifi connection is slow.
Don't have CAT wires.

>>482981
sorry man
>>482978
i like all this and copied it in case the thread is gone for some reason.
So would these be voted on at summit?


you wanna hang around?
either way ill be back like i said tomorrow...

>>482982
>>482981
when we continue, we will definitely need to link players in... also need a posted mup with backstory.

>>482982
Ok so 9 work for y'all?

>>482992
9 et yes for me

>>482985
i was gonna step out for smokes, but i am not sleeping tonight. my gut says we should:

>Go through WWIII and tweak the stuff we think needs tweaking

>Discuss Great Risk

Your call.

>>482991
Agreed. I can do that.

>>482992
i'll be there.

Denmark here, 9PM EST fine

>>482994
lets do some of each, cig first. i needs too. both be back in 10-15?

>>482997
sweet

>>482999
20 for me. gotta run the gauntlet

>>482997
sweet. i dream of living there one day. thanks for being our Sebia. wish we could have kept going.

So we're good on 9
Roll call, with your nation to make sure we're all set

>>483004
Cool

>>483011
Cool 9 st OP and Ukraine... unless someone wants it and I'll just OP

>>483015
9EST*

>>483011
Read above too. Others said 9 was good too. On mobile, will be back on pc soon tho.

back

>>482978
on the post gets, i think the dice option solves this. but again i have OPed often with dice and am used to using them... OPed here several times and its pretty much required.

>>483022
sweet, as am i obviously

>>483025
Kicking back on mobile so I can stretch out until work on pc is needed

>>483027
Lol, still using WiFi so I'D is same

>>483024
Sounds good to me. same roll logic applies yeah? guess dubs/trips, palis and straights are harder to get this way? Not a problem, just wondering.

The UN was fucking awesome at getting rollers to inhabit their faction. I don't know what needs to be legislated vs. what can just be maintained by community knowledge. For instance, Resolutions are fairly obvious. Peace Keepers are not.

As i see it, PKs would get deployed when: 1) a faction requests them, and 1 or more nations is willing to provide them 2) every nation except the belligerents makes a unilateral decision to deploy them AND at least 2 factions commit to providing the assets/rolls to maintain them 3) a combination of 1 and 2. Anything else?

In regards to naval blockades, the way i envision it is that a nation needs to have some kind of super control of a maritime region (both sides of a strait, a peninsula, etc. They then use their roll to block, meaning whatever there T roll is must be overwhelmed by the faction attempting to land. In example, if you had sailed for Corsica and i was opposed, I'd roll to blockade the straits or shut down the whole Med. If more than one belligerent is trying to sail, they blockade gets applied serially to the Med. Does this make sense?

Again, the summit worked brilliantly.

Rolled 78737 (1d99999)

>>483035
In my experience, the palis are as rare as on /pol with this dice
dice+1d99999
which means "use dice" "1of them" "99,999 sided"... that seems fairly random to me.

I loved it too, and my hope was to be only OP in this game so i could be like a tie breaker or mediator etc. As for votes i was trying to like determine things that really only involved a couple nations and let them settle it... but like the balkans thing it involved much more than just you and czech really, and the nukes vote... all in all it was a fun first run.

on peacekeepers... could it be NPC? like if a 4-3 vote and the 3 dont go along... the 4 may could get an NPC NATO force or something... brainstorming.
>As i see it, PKs would get deployed when: 1) a faction requests them, and 1 or more nations is willing to provide them 2) every nation except the belligerents makes a unilateral decision to deploy them AND at least 2 factions commit to providing the assets/rolls to maintain them 3) a combination of 1 and 2. Anything else?
this is good too

>In regards to naval blockades, the way i envision it is that a nation needs to have some kind of super control of a maritime region (both sides of a strait, a peninsula, etc. They then use their roll to block, meaning whatever there T roll is must be overwhelmed by the faction attempting to land. In example, if you had sailed for Corsica and i was opposed, I'd roll to blockade the straits or shut down the whole Med. If more than one belligerent is trying to sail, they blockade gets applied serially to the Med. Does this make sense?
as for the "super control" we could put fleet indicators in the water where they strategic positions... must fill the indicator (fleets needed?)
>gibralter
>bosphorus
>above denmark
>english channel


thanks for the kind words... i just thought of it the other day when the first run didn't go so well.

>>483045
>>483035
could nerf the gets though...
dubs 12T
Trips 15T +nuke...
but then noone might get a nuke or only one person... i liked how the balance shifted so often really the way is... that was awesome... like spain then you leveled things then i threw a wrench in the whole thing... epic

>>483035
thoughts on the "can move when you use the nuke" rule
wish we had seen that in play

>>483056
*cant

>>483045
Lol... then rolled pali as I said that... but I mean pali doesn't guy miles as is

>>483060
*fuck mobie "pali doesn't give nukes"

You kill or typing bro... reading back over things now and thinking

Could be also, however it is determined that a blockade is made, it gets indicated on the map with an icon of sorts. .... players could to break through blockade (rules for doing so needed)

>>483074
*Could roll to break...

>>483035
What about an "Iron Curtain" option if diplo goes to shit?

>>483053
i think they are fine

>>483063
if dubs get too rare we may need them to...

>>483074
i like the idea of a blockade eating up a roll. it should cost the faction doing it. i don't think we need fleet indicators; if you have coasts, you can have a fleet. chokepoint/strategic indicators might be good, but just like having a UN that is not completely legislated, it is good to require rollers having a geographical/historical/logical capability. i believe in barriers to entry as it makes for better gameplay IMO.

>>483080
i think Blocs, PKs, blockades, alliances, mutual defense pacts, and NAPs should be established and maintained by the rollers. If a coalition of factions wants to institute an iron curtain, let them. how they do it and whether it does anything will be dependent upon their reasoning, core gameplay, and implementation.

>>483096
Agreed on all fronts, but polfags often lack common sense... so will need walk then to water somewhat. Agreed, may add Nuke for 4d and higher pali. Will work on the rules panel tomorrow using the ideas above and repost the working progress (leaving the map itself alone with current borders of course). Also need to post a cleaner version of the naps and allies panel... this one I blew up too much and grey pixels make it shit to fill the dann things.
Lastly, how about a next level version too... using the modern day world map version ... think youbmay have posted one the other day...

I will check back in from time to time this morn and today.
~KIRE6

I think we should keep this map, black out closed factions, and continue on to see how the world goes. Maybe even keep the Nuke Stockpiles BUT have each roller roll for a random faction assignment (number the factions 1-7, Ukraine-Denmark) rollers roll for placement. Treaties can be re-ratified or abandoned at no penalty. Maybe black out the closed factions...

I will do a history write up. Easier to do when we establish a time line (Each Mup'd is a week/month/season/year/etc.) but it is not essential.

One more thing...

What if there was no way to completely eliminate a playing faction unless you Nuke the last city OR roll for genocide? Maybe that is something we do in Great Risk.

...and in regards to THAT idea:

We start with a World Map as the primer and explanation of the Rules and features and gameplay. We then build a compendium of map templates that cut The World into smaller regions. We use those maps on whichever board with a prescribed number of mupdates using a standard chronology. We take the results of those games and paint The Map with them. We then set up the chronology from there. We keep track of cultures, regimes, empires, and wars on the Big Map, but we only use the actual threads that are generated from the sub-maps. We save every thread so there is an historical record that can actually be referenced and perused... and argued over and lied about and obfuscated.

Just some thoughts.

HISTORY OF WWIII RISK 8 August - 30 August 2016

PART 01

August 2016
Historians at this time still disagree as to what the actual progression was to the beginning of the Third World War, but there is no disagreement about who was involved. By this date in history, the belligerents of note had been building up forces and posturing their units for expansion for at least a year. The most important nations were the Ukraine in the Black Sea Region, Turkey in Asia Minor, the Holy Abacadian Empire originating in the former Czech Republic, England in the British Isles, Spain in Iberia, and the Entirety of Sibulan in the Western Russian Region. Each of these factions had unique characteristics and cultures, but there were a number of key similarities that many historians believe guided the events that led to the War. Most of them were Fascist in nature. All of them had experienced Generals, all of them maintained advanced armies, and all of them were ringed by weaker Democracies and Socialist Republics.

The exception to this was the dangerously close proximity of the Entirety of Sibulan, Ukraine, and Turkey, all three of which bordered the Black Sea. Somewhat counter intuitively, at no point in the run up to the War or the opening of conflict did these nations come to blows. Maybe even more surprising is that at no point did all three find themselves on the same side of any major issue, though it should be noted that Turkey and the Entirety of Sibulan would eventually enter into a trilateral Mutual Defense Pact with the Abacadian Empire, though the distribution of Fissile Material Stockpiles was the impetus for this coalition. Indeed, the Empire and Turkey very nearly came to blows over Yugoslavia.

On the 8th of August 2016, a range of incursions, police actions, and land seizures spread across the sub-Continent of Europe.The English invested the Republic of Ireland, The Czech Republic invested Slovakia and formed the Holy Abacadian Empire, Spain moved over Portugal's borders under the pretense of Forward Defense, Turkey declared war on Armenia and Azerbaijan, and the Ukraine declared war on Belarus and Moldova. The Entirety was not involved in any actions this first week of the nascent conflict, though they were more than present in the rapid fire diplomacy that was streaking around the Continent between the Embassies and Commissions of the belligerent factions. As every nation being invaded, and these were all indeed invasions regardless of formal declarations of war being made, was militarily inept and weakly governed, each campaign was successful, though they were so to varying degrees.

HISTORY OF WWIII RISK 8 August - 30 August 2016

PART 02

By the second week (15 August 2016) all of the major players were marching into neighboring nations. The Entirety joined the fray with a blitz on Poland. This signified the last of the initial incursions, though it should be noted that another power would arise, altogether unexpectedly, in the Peninsula of Jutland, but the curious case of New Caledonia did not play an important role at this time. As fate would have it, the regime in control of this tiny nation would play what some historians believe to be the most important roll in the beginning of the second Great War.

22 August 2016 is held by many to be the true beginning of the Third World War, as this was the first time one of the great Powers invaded another. Prime minister Oswald Mosley of England dispatched Royal Marines to Iberia in a surprise attack against the Spanish, who were led by El Lion de Espania who was at the time investing Socialist France and destabilized Portugal. At the same time, the Abacadian Empire was gaining ground and resources in Central Europe, just south of the devastating westward blitz of the forces of the Entirety. In the Far East, Ukraine and Turkey were expanding North and West respectively. This would begin the period of rapid construction of fortified cities as well as the conscription of forces from enveloped nations. These efforts would lead to a massive increase in supplies, stocks, and assets for every belligerent regime involved in the war. It is worth mentioning that at this point, there were no formal declarations of war, as Turkey and the Ukraine had concluded their original campaigns decisively and had already begun to fold the captured units into their own ranks via the endeavors mentioned above.

In the fourth week of the distributed conflagration, Title 17 of the United Nations Charter was invoked by the regime in Ukraine, and all of the Powers agreed to attend the mandated summit. In the seven days prior, England pressed further into Spain, but was nearly thrown back into the Bay of Biscay. What is more, it was announced that the Spanish Nuclear Program had succeeded in constructing deployable weapons, much to the chagrin of the Great Powers. This event would set the tenor for the impending UN Summit. Later, it would be revealed that Spain had in fact already been developing usable radiological weaponry. The other relevant factions continued to expand as well as consolidate their gains.

HISTORY OF WWIII RISK 8 August - 30 August 2016

PART 03

While it is true that the first the most notable product of the First Summit was a truce between Spain and England, much was established in the way of precedent and diplomayic discourse. The regime in Turkey led by Kemal III very nearly started a war with the Abacadian Empire, but its expansionist proposals were roundly defeated by unanimous votes of the other members. Notable too is the fact that Turkey acquiesed to the vote, indicating a level of respect and commonality between members, hitherto unexpected by most, if not all, leading analysts in every country. It must be noted that the UN was not an all inclusive entity; only the major players had any real power to effect Proposals, Ammendments, or even to cast votes. True, every nation with a functioning government was represented, thier views were not heard. This is believed by some to be the heralding of a new chapter in the history of the United Nations, a once ineffectual and stagnant body of appointed technocrats and weak willed demi-dignitaries. Henceforth, the UN would be the single most powerful coalition on the planet, being backed up by the powerful regimes and militaries of the Great Powers. A side note to the Summit was the temporary Non Agression Pact signed by the Ukraine and the Entirety of Sibulan. Though it was undebatably a minor happening, it could be succesfully argued that this agreement established a firm peace in the East. Had the Ukraine or the Entirety supported the Turkish landgrab, open war between the Empire and Turkey would have been almost certainly unavoidable. Restrained by her closest neighbors, Turkey was forced to act in a much more diplomatic fashion in pursuit of her goals.

And?

>>483124
I disagree to this, countries that belong to a specific person will not be changed unless they quit or it's entirely a new game altogether.

I propose that countries that had been conquered that have a nuckear stockpile will be transferred to the country who conquered it.

>>483124
>>483199
>>483201
>>483202
Reading all this now... I passed out and have been been since i woke up. Get mack to you guys soon.
>>483352
>>483355
>>483387

>>483499
OP your name

how about we start this now.

>>483202
Hope you haven't stopped, this shit is popcorn worthy. and will be linked or copied with the mup at 9pm
>>483506
Ukraine... why do you ask?

>>483507
i am at work... so cant... i know, im that guy who has a job.

>>483509
Nah forget about it. I thought you were someone else (before I said "OP" your name)

>>483512
I am the OP and Ukraine for this game...

>>483355
i can agree to this, but that requires tripcode matching. me and !jW6 are bretty gudd about using ours, so if a faction wants the "reclaim" option, they have to start with and maintain a tripcode.

>>483507
>>483387
>>483499
did you guys read the stuff about Great Risk? do you have any thoughts on it?

and

Did you like the Histories? Should i keep going??

risk thread on tg
>>>/tg/48846072

>>483572
Of course I love the histories. Can't wait to see the stuff about my invasion of the last French step by hold on Corsica and Spain's attempts at taking it, plus the peace we reached and nuclear chest beating.

Great Risk

I just need the world map and I can make 4-6 continental/regional maps from it... if you have a good one please post here bro. I will begin working on the rules adjustments at about 6p today, but can start that too. I also like the set number of mups per map per thread etc stuff.

>>483595
no rush on Great Risk. I will find a good template and we can go from there. As it stands now:

>1 big world master map that lives on /qst/
We should only mup'd it when there are significant changes.
>6-10+ sub-maps that focus on specific regions
North America, Central America, South America, Africa, Europe, Central Asia, and East Asia are the obvious options, but we could go even more granular (India, Straya, Pacific Islands, etc.) or less (Europe + N. Africa, N, South America + Central America + SW Western N. America, etc.)
>canonical games should all follow the same gameplay rules with very rare exception
roll values should not change unless needed, duration of thread + mupdates should be consistent, always played on /tg/.
>each sub-map thread should get at least 1 full post of History
/qst/ allows 3000 characters (yayballz)
>as many offline archives should be kept as players see fit.

Remember, the idea behind Great Risk is that the game can roll on regardless of the same players playing or new players coming in. Ergo leader names, faction names, regimes, religions, and Empires need to follow an understandable arc. Memery and "lolfaghotz" factions should be forbidden, and genocides and eliminations should be hard to do but not impossible. It is not the end of the world if 1 faction or religion dominates a region, but we should have precedents in place for inciting rebellions, schisms, and empire collapses if need be.
>

>>483615
do we still want to implement a roll for faction function everyone and if trips are used do those players get their names next go round?

Also, at 9 do we continue in this thread or start new bread on tg?

>>483621
It depends on who/how many return from OG bread. If it is more than 2, we just let rollers pick on a first come, first served basis. I think henceforth, a TC should be required to resume command, but we may not want to enforce that here, as New Caledonia, The Empire, the Entirety, and Spain have stated they are planning to be there. None of these chaps used a TC.

I think we should continue. When i was writing the History, i got really excited to see where it would lead. So my vote is we do Episode II. You know i am DTC whatever we do. I do think we should start a new bread @ 2100EST as this one is meta af. Whether we do it here on /qst/ or back on /tg/ is up for debate.

>>483657
i can start it on tg at 9pm. we can jump from here, and you can post the histories as soon as possible to that thread as i keep watch on who is coming in to play. do we start with a summit?

>>483666
>>483657

Great Risk...
Once each submap is dominated (if we allow that) there can be a climax WWIII world map game between all 6 or so factions (conquerers of submaps), UN still trying to resolve of course

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>>483657
added blockades and more canvas at the bottom for text, ideas? things need?

>>483678
I think we should start with Week 12 (27 NOV - 03 DEC) to maintain chronological balance. Summit 03 will follow that mup'd directly anyways.

>Great Risk

There can be any number of factions once we get into global conflict; it will depend on the progression through the History generated by the sub-maps. Some sub-maps may go on for more than 1 thread IF they are interesting and compelling enough that rollers demand they continue.

I need to write the Histories for Weeks 5-11, Summit 02, and the Emergency Summit still. I gotta get some AFK life accomplished in the interim betwixt now and 2100EST... though i really just want to write :/// ...

>>483702
know that feel. i am risking in space and crunching data at work right now.... will come back to our little thread here later and check in bro

>>483708
kkk

imma do a copy edit of UN Risk rules for clarity/grammar as well as flesh out some of the more ambiguous rules (pending your approval of course). Otherwise it looks bretty gudd for a Beta. When it is ready to be 0.0.1 we can clean it up, but i do not feel that is necessary ATT.

I think we should add stockpile locations for fissile weapon stocks. The question of nuclear transferability needs to be discussed. I am opposed, but logic would indicate that if you subsume a nation with an Arsenal, and they don't use it (highly unlikely but possible), you would capture it. Alternatively, a Nuke Nation could liquidate their stockpile to keep it from falling into enemy hands. I think declaring the stockpile(s) location would mitigate these gameplay issues, as nukes could be destroyed by preemptive strikes. maybe you can only house them in cities/ capitals? if you do not declare your stockpile(s), all your nukes are in your capitol, maybe? Of course a faction can spread them around their holdings to mitigate the efficacy of a First Strike strategy.

>>483708
also, .gifs recording the T exchanges/expansions would be killer, but i am not the chap to do it. just a thought.

>>483717
will add some text on stockpiling, should stockpiles be conquerable? say if you stockpile once nuke in crimea for instance and do not defend and someone lands there... do they get the nuke... also if so, this would mean everyone would use the capitol to stockpile since it cant be conquered until last, so maybe no stockpile in capitol

>>483733
yeah, but if your 4 nukes are in Kiev, and i drop my 1 nuke there. your stocpile is gone, right? no movement cost for shifting stockpiles, i shift per turn?

>>483773
like the shifting idea, and yes if all four in one place all four would be destroyed by nuke, but what about conquering stock piles?

>>483773
>Ukraine has four nukes
Since when
-El Leòn

>>483783
we are just talking the map and rules

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>>483800
>>483783
>>483773
added some text and stockpile symbol

space map op is back from break
>>>/tg/48846072
>>>/tg/48846072
>>>/tg/48846072


also new players still welcome to join in

>>483780
if a faction does not shift their stockpile away before a Stronghold is taken, the lose it. no retroactive shifting, but maybe they could roll to destroy? In GoB we would do heads up rolls for duels, like Lord Snow and Ser Jaime would roll three times a piece (6 total) to the Duel post from OP, each roll against each other OR each having to be higher than a certain number, then best 2 of 3 or whatever.

For our purposes, we could say that if a city gets taken, the first owner gets to roll for destruction. They have to roll a specific number or above 8 or something.

>>483783
yeah, just discussing mechanics mang.

>>483828
>blockades
I think anyone can through up a blockade if they are touching the waterway in question, but maybe they do not get their bonus, just their roll, UNLESS they have geographical dominance, like Gibraltar, et cetera? Like, the point of the blockade is to degrade or destroy naval incursions. Faction A [+5] rolls to sail from England to Faction B in Italy. they roll a 6 (5T) giving them a 10T-2T. Faction C [+3] in Spain throws up a blockade with a 3 (3T) + giving them a 3T + 3T blockade. 8T - 6T equal only 2Ts taken in Italy.

Does that make sense?

>>483863
i like the blockade idea and will modify to account for this.

I think if a player rolls to take stockpiles, the owner of said stockpile should get one extra roll in an attempt to destroy them... 1-5 fail and lose nuke, 6-0 destroy nuke and lose that T (50/50 if you will). no redirects, must defend stockpile in original roll. if a player is about to take the nuke, the OP will link both parties in a post where the owner gets to roll for this. this is a bit simpler and will probably allow for more smooth transition between mups (less loss of players)

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>>483863
also i think NA and CA should be in one submap... NA would only give mexico, us, canada and greenland, this gives several starting nations... all of which can by chance get the nuke and tip the balance of course

WWIII COPY EDITS

>Diplomacy:
GRAMMAR EDIT= *allowed

>Bonuses:
CLARITY EDIT: You -> Factions

>Capitols:
CLARITY EDIT: "Capitols cannot be taken until a Faction has lost all of the Ts in that Nation."

>Conquering:
CLARITY EDIT: "To conquer a nation players must take the City and remove all other factions from that nation.

>The UN:
CLARITY EDIT: add "Any faction can call for an emergency summit at any time. They must get approval from at least 2 other UN member factions. Participation is not mandatory for all factions. Factions may withdraw from the UN but will surrender their ability to call for ESummits, introduce Resolutions, and vote on Resolutions."

>Nukes: NO CHANGE

>Sailing: NO CHANGE

>Blockade:
CLARITY EDIT: Any maritime faction can roll to blockade. They do not get their bonus in the blockade unless they control a strategic waterway (Gibralter, Bosphorus, etc)

>Stockpiles:
CLARITY EDIT: Nuclear armed players can stockpile nukes, together or seperately, in any of their controlled Cities. Stockpiles can be moved once per turn at no T cost. Stockpiles can be taken if a City is conquered. Stockpiles can be destroyed by nuclear strikes. Stockpiles default to the Faction Capitol. The last stated location is locked in; no retroactive movements of stockpiles after a roll.

>>483904
GREAT RISK

Remember, there are no Nations to start out. Rollers will establish factions that may one day become nations to be played in later iterations. At least, that is how i envisioned it...

...oh wait, are you adding NA to WWIII? If so, then I agree.

>>483920
i was brainstorming how to do WWIII/Great Risk combo...
like a set number of mups per regional map culminating in a world map of the remaining factions... thoughts?

>>483913
thank you
copied and pasted for safe keeping

>>483928
>>483920
Wait, so we're starting all over on a new map, or continuing the WWIII risk on a new map

>>483935
lol i can see how confusing this is. We are discussing 2 separate games ITT: WWIII Risk and Great Risk. !jW6 and i are so far up each other's asses that we are discussing both in tandem.

To be clear: Great Risk does not exist yet. Much from WWIII Risk is going to be incorporated into Great Risk, but not the other way around. Any rule changes will be on the map and made clear when we launch at 2100EST.

An ok explanation of Great Risk is here:
>>483124

and if you have any questions feel free to ask me.

>>483935
continuing at 9EST
ignore our conversation if you arnt following it. this in a conversation across many archived threads... so yeah

we will not start a new map or game tonight

>>483935
:/ i didn't even answer the question.

As it stands now, we are picking up where we left off last night. do you like that idea? i think it could continue to be a good game, but if no one wants to do it that is FBM.

>>483935
i has a requests:

1)can you read through the History and tell me what you think? I am writing more now. It appears we will have a bunch of OG rollers tonight, so it isn't really necessary, but if and when we actually launch Great Risk, the Histories will be an important part of Great Risk.

>>483199
>>483201
>>483202

2) does Great Risk sound like something you would be interested in playing?

>>483958
I don't mind the history, it's fun to read

>>483978
We will require a tripcode... so think of a phrase you will not forget and make a unique TC for yourself bro... me (jW6nLKlRE6) and stuZ always use the same trip in pretty much any game. i suggest doing the same.

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>>483958
Next time we start a new WWIII/UN Risk could use something close to pic related

>>484042
not bad, but i gotta say not having Brazil, SAfrica, Australia, IndoMalaysanesia, or Singapore bugs me. but it is still good.

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>>484056
this is what i was pulling from... could just use it and make some edits... on the other map i physically went in and made nation borders thicker... for this one that would take some time.
but i could ad the same rule set to this map motif

>>484071
your call bae. not trying to make you work needlessly.

>>484071
>all the conflict and tension ever was built up in a portion of this map not even 1/10 of the land

>>484116
right?! we need more rollers in general. how do we go about getting them i wonder...

>>484127
Am here

>>484131
good. game starts @ 2100EST

>>484146
Why so late? Also I need to be greater Albania

>>484157
thats when i can continue hosting

>>484157
that is statistically when we get the most high quality rollers.

And Turkey controls Albania. i bet that faction could be amenable to some form of independence. if you are around, ask them when we launch.

>>484304
;^)

>>484304
about to drive home and work on the map a bit... will post it here for your inspection before we start back up on tg and so we can coordinate the start up with the histories etc... probably wait for old rollers and do a roll call here first too.

>>484326
Mr.Roll, are we starting pre-Balkan war? If so then south Albania is where ill start

>>484412
i am finishing up the Histories in a few minute and will post them here. They will be posted at the beginning of the new thread as well. It would serve you greatly to read them, so you can get a feel as to who might support your rise. More importantly, it will show you who you need to be wary of. Parts 1-3 here:

>>483201
>>483199
>>483202

>>484423
Ok. I read those 3

HISTORY OF WWIII RISK 8 September - 14 September 2016

PART 04

Week 5 (08-14 September 2016) With the signing of the truce between Spain and England (UNR01) the major powers continued carrying out low level expansion into weak or leaderless nations in their immediate vicinity. Though never officially formalized, multifaceted agreements about regions where the Great Powers were expanding were respected unanimously. Though the rhetoric was jingoistic in the extreme, Turkey and the Abacadian Empire did not enter into either direct or proxy conflict. The Entirety of Sibulan began its Baltic campaign alongside the Ukraine with no conflict between the two. England continued its expansion in France, respecting the agreements of UNR01. Spain began to conquer Italy. Both Turkey and the Empire pushed into the Balkans. At this time, Spain was the only member of the Nuclear club, but this would soon change.

The sixth week of the European Conflagration (15-21 September 2016) would see the entry of Turkey into the Nuclear Club, causing a fundamental shift southward in the continental balance of power. With the exception of English aggression in Iberia, Turkey had been, to date, the most recalcitrant and disruptive member of the UN. England expanded into the Benelux region of Western Europe. The Entirety consolidated its holdings in the Baltic States as well as beginning a push into Scandinavia. Again, Ukraine followed with no conflict between the two. The Empire firmly ensconced itself in the Balkans.

In seven days (22-28 September 2016) the nuclear arsenals of Spain and Turkey increased dramatically in tandem with massive territory gains by both. The majority of the Balkans as well as Greece fell under Turkish control. Italy was nearly subsumed by Spain. These events overshadowed the successful campaigns in the Benelux, Scandinavia, the Baltics, and Northern Balkans. A flurry of diplomatic communiques crossed Europe between the Great Powers with each non-nuclear regime jockeying for a optimal position in relation to Turkey and Spain.

Week 8 (29 September-05 November 2016) was a relatively calm period, though the seeds of the ensuing conflict began to germinate therein. It was in this week that Turkey expanded their nuclear arsenal further, putting them on par with Spain. Though talks of a Nuclear pact were initiated earlier, no further structure was created. The other great powers continued their small scale expansions. It was in this week that Prime Minister Mosely made an official call to the other Powers for a coalition against what was seen as aggressive expansion by Turkish Forces. This would lay the groundwork for events that would follow. it should be noted that no other faction joined this coalition, or even responded positively to it. A conflict was in the offing, waiting only for an inciting event. that event would come from the most unlikely of places; a small piece of Europe on the verge of being invested by no less than two Great Powers.

HISTORY OF WWIII RISK 8 2nd UN Summit

PART 05

The Second UN Summit was the last one to occur in a relatively peaceful equilibrium. The growing rift between England and Turkey, the growing lack of possible safe expansions, and the induction of New Caledonia as a voting member of the UN are the most important facets of the Summit. In relation to the New Caledonian entry was a paper war between England and Turkey over this newest member. England had had its sights set on Jutland for some time, going as far as to enter formal agreements with the Entirety of Sibulan about the partition of the Peninsula. When the entry of New Caledonia was agreed to by the member states, England began a process of en-vassaling New Caledonia, ostensibly as a Protectorate of the Crown. Turkey dissented strongly to this attempt, even going as far as declaring a mono-lateral agreement to defend the sovereignty of this new nation, though in typical Turkish ambiguity they did not say how they would respond to incursions. These events would serve to shape the nature of the outbreak of full scale conflict between members of the UN. In point of fact, an overshadowed land swap agreement between Turkey and Spain would become the beginning of the war between those Spain and the Ukraine. Though hotly debated by the scholars and analysts of the other Great Powers, Turkish Historians maintain that the war between the Iberians and the Crimeans would have been avoided if Turkish Forces had been granted the powers of policing the Mediterranean they had sought at the first UN Summit.

The veracity of the Turkish claim may disputed, but what is not up for debate was the fact that the Ukraine made the first move by invading Spanish Corsica in the 9th Week of the war (06-12 November 2016). Whole volumes could be written about what motivated non-nuclear Ukraine to attack the undisputed strongest belligerent faction. Whatever the reasoning, the Ukrainians took control of the island and begin to posture their forces for a full scale invasion of the Italian Peninsula. Even more shocking is the fact that after the invasion started Ukraine achieved entry into the Nuclear Club. Though only the third most powerful member in terms of stockpile, they possessed enough weaponry to forestall any threats of nuclear retaliation from Spain. Concurrently, England seized Iceland as well as the Faroe Islands from New Caledonia, though they were rebuffed by the plucky peninsulars in the archipelago. Both the Empire and the Entirety consolidated their gains and stayed out of the growing conflicts in the North Sea and the Mediterranean. Turkey did not initially follow through on its promis to protect New Caledonian sovereignty.

HISTORY OF WWIII RISK 13 November - 26 November 2016

PART 06

The war began in earnest in the tenth week (13-19 November 2016) with the continuing conflict in the Mediterranean over Corsica, the Battle for the Faroes in the Mediterranean, and a surprise invasion of Ireland by Turkish Marines in the North Atlantic. The Empire and the Entirety began to invest Germany in earnest, seeking land to counter the Nuclear Triumvirate of Spain, Turkey, and Ukraine. In each of the three regional conflicts, little territory changed hands.

Week 11 (20-26 November 2016) saw the dramatic escalation of conflict as the Holy Abacadian Empire and the Entirety of Sibulan invaded English France from their bases in Germany. Earlier, these two factions had signed a Mutual Defense Pact with Turkey, and some believe this is the impetus that lead to their aggressive entry into the Northern War. New Caledonia followed with an invasion of English France as well. The Turkish continued the campaign in Ireland but were roundly defeated by the English Expeditionary Forces. The Ukraine and Spain continued to fight for dominance in the Mediterranean.


THIS IS WHERE WE START

>As week 12 of the Third World War begins, England is at war with New Caledonia, Turkey, the Holy Empire of Abacadia, and the Entirety of Sibulan. Spain is at war with the Ukraine. The Nuclear Club consists of Spain, Turkey, and the Ukraine. To date, nuclear exchanges or strikes have occurred.

>>484495
Link new thread, be back at 8:55

>>484497
see you there boo

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>>484501
Sweet!!! Making coffee and dinner then reading the about new histories.... anything else for the pic related?

>>484644
*above, not about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwvesztHAvU
New Risk Space video

not as fun video as the other older one i made

>>484659
nice bro

>>484680
These are nice, it's a good read to be honest
-El Leòn

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>>484704
>>484659
>>484501
gif of this game so far

>>484480
Ukraine did not invade spanish Corsica... it was the last independent French holdout and both factions rolled for it the same turn.

>>484495
*Faroes in the North Sea? not Med.

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>>484495

REVOLT IN MOTHER RUSSIA, TAKE BACK LAND FROM BORSCHT. ANUUUU
CHEEEEKI BREEEEEKI IV DAMKE
>Begin Slav backed takeover of power from the Sibulans Capitolist reign, and restore a glorious Russian equality Commie system. at Saint Petersburg

>>484495
lastly... Spain and Ukraine had reached a peace agreement during the emergency summit that left Spain with Italy and Sicily and Ukraine with Corsica and Sardinia

>>484772
mhmm. i believe you... B^)))

>>484787
lol

>>484796
noted. will change when i import to new bread. When we do it live, i will copypasta the history over to new thread? or just link yo here? LMK

>>484827
id say copy/edit/paste in new thread.
in the OP i will greet everyone, mention some rules and changes, and request they wait before posting and read the histories that will follow....
thats where you come in...
i think posting in same thread will be best... retarded newfags might get confused if they come here and see all of this other stuff

>>484741
OP start at exactly 9:00??

>>484840
agreed.

LOIC is fired up and ready.

>>484840
Theres a religious risk going on ?

>>484901
>>484897
thread on tg will be created around 8:55
and linked here... we can hang here until then, but make sure you read the OP and histories and chime in when that thread is created so we get on the same page.
>>484901
Religion risk, havent seen on today.... this is WWIII/UN risk.

>>483572
Dude the history is fine, but lacking a great deal of depth especially WWIII

>>484919
DUde... only so much time in the day. I know you got short shrift, but you were operator af, flying below the radar.

sorry mang :/

>>484919
see
>>484471
>>484480
>>484495

>>484924
lol sorry damn I was still eating, thanks

>>484921
i think he only read the first 3

ALSO
T MINUS 16 MINUTES!!!!!

testing, also, can we vote that all players must be in here to be able to play
or
start if only one player is not here

>>484840
how do we want to go about adding new folks if they show up? Roll for revolt, submit to the UN for autonomy or semi-autonomy? politely say Pools Closed???

>>484934
In my head, OGs get first dibs at their crafted characters, then newbies fill in absences. some dud wants Albania. My thoughts here>>484935

>>484934
>>484935
UN for new guys.

i say if we have 5/7 original players/sit-ins we play on. New players can replace old... oswald isnt to found anywhere for instance...


ROLL CALL WHO IS IN HERE?

>>484941

wait rell

>>484941
Here
Testing my trip

>>484944
are you trying to Tripcode?

type your Sig (name) then type ## then type a random string that you will remember or write down (123ertdfgcvb)

Agree

>>484950
ya
>newfag

>>484951
It's me, denmark

Imm back.

>>484951
what are you?
>>484955
oh sweet!!!

>>484957
who are you

wait, are we replacing England?

>>484954
>>484934

are you Abacadia or Sibulan?

>>484962
he wants to be Albania

>>484950
after you post the history, i will post the gif

>>484964
if england doesnt return... we need an england so if he is not back and someone is here to take it, old players vote to decide i guess.
>>484967
cool

>>484962
I spoke to >>484501. Im going to be South Albania

test again

>>484964
we might have to.
>>484962
should we just say every faction is available, they just have to roll for rebellion (the roll just says how many Ts the get; every roller gets in?) OR make a formal request at the first (3rd) summit and be voted in?

>>484978
I think:
>old players get entire nations for first rolls
>if Oswald doesnt show, offer >>484974 england
>At the summit, after first rolls are done, new players can roll for revolt and starting position
Thoughts?

>>484967
^^ name. IDs. 4chan probs bugged?

>>484986
revolts OR entry requests would be my opinion

>>484978
>>484975
>>484974
>>484973
>>484957
>>484955
>>484954
>>484949
>>>/tg/48855363
>>>/tg/48855363
>>>/tg/48855363
>>>/tg/48855363
>>>/tg/48855363
>>>/tg/48855363

>>484986
Woah, I rlly just wanna be Kingdom of Kolonia, but if u need me to I will,

>>484996
you will be better off... i hope...

>>484994
are we doing dice or post numbers???

>>484934
>>>/tg/48855363
>>>/tg/48855363
>>>/tg/48855363
>>>/tg/48855363
>>>/tg/48855363

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WE AWAIT A ROLL FROM TURKEY BEFORE CONTINUING THIS GAME

>>485382
my roll was >>48859046
5+13=18 defend and attack kemal

HALIAX!!!!!?

Halo, checking in

>>485672
im around, still waiting.

>>485672
We still await word of Turkey's situation... no media coverage coming our of that state since last night... has Kemal's government fallen?

Hey m80s

sorry about last night. crazy shit went down. no use elaborating. sorry if i derailed the thread. i got nothing done yesterday, so i am doing lots of shit. when i am done i will jump on, and i have this in tab so i will lurk.

are we going to continue, or start over with new version of same map + new rules?

I am DTC whatever we do.

>>486013
If we continue with the Third Chapter, i am going to run with this story beat.

>>486078
Ok, I like the history parts, can you post more?

qe

>>486078
just awaiting a roll from you...
i defended from you and attacked greece and balkans.
the map here:
>>485382
has everyone's roll's but yours and mine...
if you roll to that map...(here use the dice i guess) i will post the real mup here and we can determine where to go from there

on another note, i have been at work all day and have tried to find a game to eat up my spare time between jobs and havent seen a thread all day... this is extremely odd... i mean there are usually at least two threads during the day and even if they are ran by new OPs, i still get to shitpost the bad threads... :^(

>>486226
>>486078
TO CLARIFY FOR ALL THOSE PLAYING:

IF TURKEY ROLLS BEFORE 8PM EST, I WILL POST THE MUPDATE HERE.

WE WILL THEN SEE HOW MANY PLAYERS WANT TO GO FORWARD TONIGHT WITH THREAD 3 ON TG. ALTERNATIVELY WE COULD DO SOMETHING MORE COMFY LIKE BRITRISK OR SYRIAN RISK IF HALIAX WANTS TO HOST.

>>486268
OP wat about the map GIF?

>>486274
I will post this when i get home and we have the final map. will post it here. i am on a different pc and had to rush out this morning... remembered my promise on the road and felt bad but i will post it tonight when i get home

lastly, if haliax or someone else doesnt start a thread by 7pm EST i will start a BritRisk thread on tg for us to get comfy in while we figure out what we want to do...
Who is down to play BritRisk in 2 1/2 hours? small map, big fun

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Please do this

>>486388
i might do this too... that you opgm?

>>486406
What is opgm?

>>486388
>religious risk
Link it faggot

nah, please no religion

>>486411
Opgm made that map

>>486388
How about asian risk?

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If i do a history of thread 2 it will have to be later. believe it or not they take up a fair amount of time and creativity (lol i know, i know B^*) and i am also doing IRL writing which is much more boring but much more profitable, so...

If i do a map tonight it will be pic related.

>>486558
I have a favor to ask, and if the answer is No or Maybe Later that is fine:

Can you clean up/add to this map? No rush, imma just put it all in the OGOP if/when i host tonight.


EXPAND ROLLS
>1-3
6T
>4-6
8T
>7-9
10T
>0,Dubs,3Dpali,3Dstraights
12T
>Trips,4Dpali,4Dstraights
14T
>Quads,5Dpali,5Dstraights
20T

ATTACK ROLLS
>half of Expansion GETs

RACE COLOR KEY
>Far West Blue
Sea Noldor/Cirdani

>Orange
Hobbits/Halflings

>Northern Pinkish Gray
>Goblins

>Middle Blue
Forest Noldor/Celebrimbori

>Central Green
Wood Elves/Sindar

>Central Magenta-Purple
Lake Men/Bardings

>Central Brown
Erebor Dwarves/Thorinlings

>Northeastern Brown
Iron Dwarves/Danelings

>Easter Maroon
Plains Men/Easterlings

>Central Yellow
Horse Men/Rohirrim

>East Grey
Mordor Orks/Uruk-hai

>Southern Central Magenta
First Men/Gondorians

>South Central Pink
Sea Men/Dol Amrothi

>Southern Red
Desert Men/Harradrim

>>486651
>>486558
...also, what was the name of the map editor you use???

in fact, if anyone is here, imma launch Middle Earth right no on separate /qst/ thread. I plan on it being a long running game, so there will be no rush on rolls or mup'ds but a TripCode will be required.

>>486697
>>486697
>>486697

>>486664
Kolourpaint

FOR THOSE PLAYING WWIII RISK,
I AM SORRY, MY POWER IS OFF AT THE MOMENT AND I CANT POST THE GIF UNTIL IT COMES BACK ON...

WE WILL KEEP THIS THREAD ALIVE UNTIL WE RESUME THE GAME OR START A NEW GAME... THANK YOU ALL FOR PLAYING EITHER WAY. WE WORKED A LOT OF KINKS OUT IN THIS BETA RUN OF THE MAP

~OP

>>487137
I'll be back (changed my trips)
-Russia

>>487173
sweet bro

>>>48879603
>>>48879603
>>>48879603

Rolled 30565 (1d99999)

Attack Ukraine

>>488185
3d!

Turkey has rolled.
Will post the current map in an hour or so. For those that show up, discuss what we do.
We of course also have middle earth risk to finish, so we have lots of options.

>>488205
Yeah, and that one can roll on for a while. I am going to do a write up for it and add some stuff (not rules, more like rejigger Ts)

>>488211
I laughed so hard when u suggeated watchingvmr robot and that was literally what i was doing

>>488205
In regards to MERW, i wanted to add another gameplay feature:

No race can be exterminated. If they are completely subsumed, a remnant will flee to the closest Kin Race and be given 5Ts. They are now subservient(envassaled) to their Kin. The only way they can regain independence is to retake their homeland.

>>488228
yeah, top zoz. i saved the pic. on that note, do you remember one of the first few MERs i OP'd? excellent gameplay and RP? In it, de Gascon sent a vine of Wine grapes to the Byzantine Emperor. Later ITT the Emperor sent an IRL pic of his battlestation with a timestamp and a glass of white wine. Did you by any chance save that pic? i thought i did but i cannot find it...

>>488255
this would be awsome, but what happens when the map is full?
>>488255
i remember the thread... i was either harthacnut or frederick of prussia... i didnt save the pic but will search my history on my desktop when i get home... i know, but i never delete my history on that computer for this very reason. hopefully the thread is archived.

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THIS IS THE UP-TO-DATE MAP.
ITS WEEK 18 OR 19 NOW
NO ROLLS HERE, JUST LINK WITH WHAT YOU SUGGEST WE DO.


also, for those interested i will still post a gif at some point. the power outage last night fucked me in that regard regard though

>>488357
Where do you live, Mexico?
Why do you have power outages

>>488484
South east US. we had flooding yesterday with water up to the front porch at my house

>>488498
...tell me you don't live near the City of Bosier City LA...

>>488753
No, I am from originally rural Alabama, but live near Atl now... we had a huge rain yesterday evening and it caused flooding and all the traffic shit that comes with it too.

>>488770
OMG so you feel my pain living in a Dindutopia. I am in the Northeast. Used to live down south

>>488849
yep, i was raised in northern Alabama... its like living in oklahoma... almost 97% white.
you go to mid and south alabama and is a dinduwasteland... and in GA, Alanta is so doomed its unreal.

>>488849
i am literally in a thread on pol right now that some fag started where they post a map and say "anyone can host this?"
there are 10 or so posters and everyone is bitching at each other complaining that noone is starting it up.... kek

>>489196
the thread has 63 posts!!! loooool

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finally got the gif made. there is one frame that is fucked up because i have german Ts in poland but for the moment this should satisfy those interested.
quality is low because its 28 images.

come here while we wait
>>489579
>>489579
>>489579

What happened to the risk games on /tg/? The usual risk game I play don't show up anymore

>>489638
which ones?

>>489642
The religious ones, hosted by an OP that played as Wessex. I usually played as Cleon

Hey guys checking in

>>489683
this is frederick of prussia

yeah i dont know if he is on a break or gave up... i know he said he had only started hosting... if you havent hosted, you just dont know how crazy it is on a map that complicated.

>>489688
hey man, who are you?

aslo, did either of you join the middle earth game here
>>486697

and i have a britrisk going here
>>489579

>>489688
Fug, my trips

>>489698
Holy Abacadian Empire, just cleaned my PC (ccleaner)

New trip code,

game on pol
>>>/pol/85921836

MER

>>>/tg/48904269
>>>/tg/48904269

...anyone around???

seems dead... :/

ALL PLAYERS
i will be picking this up again @ roughly 1800-2100 EST. JSYK

>>499972

yeah this game ended when you rolled.
i think it was a good first run of WWIII/UN risk myself, would be interested in your thoughts bro

is... is everybody dead?

here bro
>>>/tg/48976736