WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU DO TO MODCAT YOU FUCKING BASTARDS WHY DID

Wait, are you insinuating what I think you're insinuating? Was it really him?

>>897702
It was confirmed by him in the IRC.

RIP Modcat ;_;

Oh shit, I've never considered the fired mod might be modcat (once again, after Hiro rehired him), after all he is known for communicating with /a/nons via warns.

What would /a/ do if it turned out modcat was fired because /pol/?

>>897718
I was trying to be more subtle but fuck it.
He said it in the IRC, openly, that he was the one who got fired.

>>897712
Do you have the transcript?

That awkward moment when the /pol/ kids throwing a shitfit have been on this site for significantly less time than Modcat and yet they have the audacity to act as if they run the place.

>>897712
LFUCKINGMAO

/a/ BTFO

Modcat BTFO x 2

How will they ever recover from this?

>>897712
This is so depressing.

>>897718
It's certainly going to be seen as a victory for /pol/ as one of the tethers to the old days is severed.
hiro, you are human garbage and I wish I could spit in your face. Your "values" about prioritizing traffic at all costs is inexcusable and I wish you nothing but the worst.

>>897724
Fuck, sorry, I don't. I'm using Hex-chat and this piece of shit deletes messages past a certain number of lines, and #4chan is relatively active and it's been like 12 hours since he said it.

He basically explained why he did it and tried to act cool, you know, the usual. That he was silly for having using the warning system for responding to some /qa/ post asking why the RWSS threads were being deleted.

>>897729
I think the most annoying thing about it at all is that this is a pivotal moment in 4chan's history and Hiro himself is still nowhere to be seen.

>>897734
Were you able to sense any inter-mod animosity? This was a shitty reason to can such an old and beloved mod, so I'm wondering if rapeape had ulterior motives.

>>897737
No, he didn't even mention the other mods or how he was kicked out, but I fear the same.
A mod from 2005 getting fired over something so silly feels odd, to say the least.

>>897734
>>897737
Having a little too much fun with the warn system is why he left 4chan the first time around.

Live and don't learn, I guess.

>>897737
I'm pretty sure there's more than one manager and that Rape Ape is only the janitor manager

>>897729
>Declare war on /pol/
>crie when you get btfo
typical /qa/ddit

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Reminder that Modcat was the one mod who hated generals the most, so if you too hate generals, you're fucked now.

>>897740
I wouldn't even call it silly. His assertion was completely accurate. I don't see it as a reason to kick him off the mod team.

>>897751
The fact that those threads are going to remain banned makes it all the more retarded, seriously.

>>897751
Maybe he shouldn't have been such an /a/utistic sack of shit and asked to moderate a board other than /pol/

>>897735
That's exactly what he does, however. He appears to response to random shitposts with his "me no speak engrish" persona or derails threads about his past with the same schtick.

>>897743
It's possible that the "triumvirate" that moot had mentioned when he left are all classified as "managers", but I really have no idea.

>>897746
He hated them on /a/. He did not care that /jp/ had over 30 of them, even when inside the /jp/ thread on /qa/ he spoke primarily about /a/.

>>897743
>>897756
>It's possible that the "triumvirate" that moot had mentioned when he left are all classified as "managers", but I really have no idea.
Pretty sure RapeApe was the only manager.
MVB got the developer cap and ALT kept using the normal mod cap.

>>897757
Actually I'm not sure if MVB was part of the holy trinity, and now I'm doubting myself about him getting a dev capcode. I'm sorry everyone.

As much as I'd like to blame /pol/, warnings were his own undoing, he lived by the sword and by the sword he died

>>897761
I don't even care about /pol/, I just think it's bullshit that modcat was fired.

/a/ btfo
weebs btfo
oldfags btfo
anime btfo

ALL HEIL REDDIT

>>897756
Well, next time I catch Hiro posting on /qa/ I'm making it my priority to complain about this.

>>897741
>>897761
Well, he had his reasons for using the warn system for communication.

(21:52:39) modcat: the main reason people remembered me in /a/ after all these years of my absence was because I always made it abundantly clear that communication was key
(21:53:03) modcat: life got in the way sometimes, sure, but I always made sure to keep people in the loop
(21:53:10) modcat: as often and as best I could
(21:53:56) modcat: I feel that the userbase has become used to the idea that staff are just unilaterally going to clam up and enforce shit without considering how the userbase is going to interpret it
(21:54:01) modcat: and not do any aftercare
(21:54:11) modcat: and that's not ideal imho

He was too good for us.

>>897756
>He did not care that /jp/ had over 30 of them, even when inside the /jp/ thread on /qa/ he spoke primarily about /a/.
There's no way to remove the generals from /jp/ without destroying it or creating a new board to hold them. If you cracked open the generals in /jp/ the fast ones would flood the board and you'd lose the topics for the slow ones entirely.

The fact that he was actually receptive to meta, unlike whoever's got the reins in /jp/ now, was in and of itself cause for at least a little bit of hope.

>>897767
he should have stayed on /a/ where he belonged

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How many more deaths must this year endure?!

>>897766
He ignores all of it. Please don't get your hopes up. At best you would get something like "me is like anime and the mods do like 4chan is good. me is japanese if you please" and then 20 idiots with "based hiro" for him skirting all responsibility as an admin.

>>897767
It just keeps getting sadder and sadder. This is a great loss.

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>they don't believe /pol/ which showed a screenshot of the /leftypol/ board owner
>meanwhile they believe a random poster claims he saw the log even though he can't provide it

>>897784
Who are you quoting?

>>897779
if you don't mind I'll borrow this pic, I think /a/ needs to know

>>897784
/qa/ddit in a nutshell.

>>897788
It's all yours, friend.
Make it pass as the "one meta thread per board" Hiroyuki "allowed" us to have.

>>897686
Fuck /pol/

>>897790
t. /r/The_Donald

>>897780
Generally if I catch him before anyone else does, which I'm good at doing, I ensure the conversation is about the matter *I* want to discuss. I haven't gotten much of value out of it, but I have gotten him to give answers.

>>897784
I actually asked him privately but didn't want to post it so my posts couldn't be traced by the mods or whatever.

T 1482188296 19<1918me19> wait you aren't kidding?
T 1482188299 19<1918me19> anon-san ;_;
T 1482198791 19<1918me19> i-it was a joke that you were fired, right?
T 1482200797 19<asan19> nope

Sadly that's all I have, the #4chan.txt file only goes back to a few hours ago.

>>897793
didn't that faggot mod you are all praising advocate for using off site resources. Jesus this just gets worse and worse for you.

Stop responding to shitposts in this thread. Ignore them and stay on topic.

>>897796
You can always post them in a picture.

>>897802
Thanks, now I feel fucking retarded.

>>897796
Could also upload the .txt as proofs

>>897797
What's wrong with starting a kareha site, other than the potential objection that kareha is shit?

>>897811
You are getting trolled. Please don't fill the thread with replies to some kid seeking attention.

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>Manager
>Right Wing Safety Squad threads

I don't know what is happening, but I'm sure everything is /pol/'s fault.

>>>/a/151173659
Thread was deleted.
I thought Hiroyuki said we were allowed to have a meta thread per board.

>>897788
That thread was pruned pretty fast, huh.

Fucking mods.

I'll respond to an /a/ post, maybe the guy left this thread open:
>>>/a/151173761
>Fire Safety thread
I'd explain it but /pol/ would say I'm biased or whatever so I'd rather show you archived threads of what it started as.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/101951584/
>REPORT ALL "ARTSPACES" AND ILLEGAL VENUES TO CRUSH THE RADICAL LEFT.

Basically exactly what the warning message Modcat issued said, but /pol/tards will tell you they "care about the safety of people".

>>897826
Not in /a/ faggot.

>>897822
>>897811
Whats wrong with /pol/ hijacking Reddit for their own interests

>>897835
What? So where, then? Only in fucking /pol/?

>>897834
>illegal
why cant they just follow the laws

>>897826
It's 6 am and a faggot mod was awake. Great luck.
Here's what barely happened: http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/151173659/

>>897838
Yes, because that's where cancer should be.

>>897686
So basically, /pol/ is responsible for getting one of the mods fired who was trying to clean up /a/?

I want proof. If provided, it means war.

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I'm not even mad, just disappointed.
When is this website finally going to die?

Well, that was fast, perhaps they were preparing for damage control

>>897834
There seems to be a common theme.

Cancerous /a/ mod ignores the established rules god modes on /pol/ and gets his shit pushed in

Cancerous leftists ignore the written law and get their shit pushed in.

>>897834
I'm the one who asked that question, thanks for posting the link and I'm reading it now but so far I still don't understand what it's about, /pol/ jargon is confusing as fuck.

>>897846
We're outnumbered, that wouldn't work out so well.

/pol/ was a mistake. It brought in redditors.

>>897826
because discussing of staff bans is irrelevant and should be left with the staff. Remainder he's actions also represents 4chan why would hiro want some faggot posting he's beliefs as a warning/rule

>>897846
>>897852
The only war should be with the mods. It's them who caved in and fired Modcat.

>>897837
If you really want to have a discussion about that particular issue I'd discuss it with you in another thread.

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It sucks, sure, but isn't he much like Kino? Very well known, but barely active?

>>897854
It brought in everybody.
The boards that aren't /pol/ are like little islands of non rightwing activism.

>>897858
>why would hiro want some faggot posting he's beliefs as a warning/rule
↓
>>897767

>>897767
Just be careful in a different board, or did everyone on /a/ forget what happened when a mod fucked up there?

>>897858
>staff bans
I meant termination

>>897852
Scripts my good friend.
Winter vacation is a great time to come up with black hat stuff.

>>897842
I might make one tomorrow. I don't really care about /a/ bans. Although now that I've said this, I might receive a global ban.

>>897858
>>897875
The only reason he was fired was because everyone was passing that screenshot around and throwing a tantrum about "leftist mod!!!!!!!!!".

>>897871
>>897854
These. /pol/ brought in normalfags.

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>people think they really fired him
Sure, they """fired""" modcat and then hired a new mod with a different name who totally isn't him, and this new mod will know better than to repeat what he- I mean, what his predecessor did.

>>897826
>>897878

/a/ meta threads are utter shit, fuck off.

>>897880
which also paints 4chan moderation team's image. He's a member of a team what an individual

Remember: 4chan was moot's hobby and is Hiroyuki's business. Notice the difference.
There's nothing but disappointments all the way down.

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This is depressing

>>897887
this. I dont want any shittty meta threads anywhere. otherthan /qq/

>>897860
Why bother look at this shit. Why should any /pol/acks give a flying fuck what happens to any of you.

>>897871
>>897854
>>897881

>>897889
It wasn't just moot's hobby.
There were stretches of time where he wanted nothing to do with us.
4chan was his pride.

>>897885
This is ain't moot anymore, Hiro is an evil corporate nip.

>>897885
Under moot? Sure.
Under Hiroyuki? Haha, no, he's gone.

>>897846
Don't start a board war stupid motherfucker.

>>897887
Meta threads are always utter shit. Why aren't we allowed one?

>>897895
we already know hiro is a jew

>>>/vip/ rings any bells?

>wahhh /pol/ brought in reddit!
I thought Reddit was predominantly progressive liberal. There's a lot of them on /a/ too.

>>897887
This is a meta thread about one of the few good mods getting fired, not the usual whining about moderation being terrible or whatever.

>>897904
Stop trying to deny it. /pol/ brought in a massive wave of normalfags to 4chan.

>>897893
>Why should any /pol/acks give a flying fuck what happens to any of you.
I was under the impression that you wanted replies with which to continue an actual discussion, but if you don't want to do that, feel free to keep trying to shame the people posting in this thread.

>>897904
To /pol/ everything is progressive liberal.
/pol/ pulled in all the rightwingers from everywhere because it's the most important rightwing hub now.
So yes, that includes reddit.

>>897854
It brought in fucking crazy people is what it did. I get frustrated with /a/ sometimes but we're not a fraction of the absolute cult /pol/ is.

>>897909
>>897911
>>897914
Please don't respond to them, this will do nothing but derail the thread.
I wish the /a/ thread hadn't got deleted, now we have to deal with the usual /qa/ falseflag/satire/troll/etc.

>>897904
People don't post /r/anime links on /a/ while begging for upvotes.

>>897834
>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/101951584/
Oh you mean the initial thread that got not even enough replies to hit the reply limit?
The thread other boards like /r/anarchism spread on their boards and revived the topic that never got any interest at first?
The topic that got spread to alternative media sites and got spammed into oblivion on the archive?
First these people cry wolf, then they cry because the wolves really came. Masked as sheep, but still.

It's not that the shit got started by /pol/ it was a reaction on the above mentioned.
Look, these threads were nothing else than a link directory and a call to action. That's not a point anyone can refuse.

But that the initial thread was the start of everything isn't true. It was the buddies on reddit boards that pulled the thread out of its grave and raped it.

Sorry to say this. As much as I am thankful these threads are banned here, because they were aids, it's not like /pol/ started it.
It's a childish reaction, sure, but it was a reaction with an impact.

>>897910
And i would make a thread yet you have no qualms with others continuing a parallel discussion.

>>897909
When you say normalfags, are you talking about people who hate excessive political correctness IRL or people who fit right into /pol/s JEWS JEWS JEWS circlejerk?

>>897924
Both.

>>897900
/a/ meta threads are among the worst trash out of /q/ and /qa/.

>>897907
This thread a meta thread in the meta board, where it belongs, not /a/.

I'm fucking shit tired of your meta faggotry generals shitting /a/ despite claiming to love the board so much.

>>897920
>a call to action.
Aren't those against the rules?

>if you don't agree with me, you must be a normalfag or from /pol/, or both
Here we go.

>>897929
Yes and these threads are banned now.

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kek, animefags btfo. Keep your shitty cartoons on your section of the site, faggots.

>>897934
So the warning was completely on point?

>>897934
So why did he get kicked out? For enforcing the rules?

>>897935
>the site
What website is that? 8 chan?
That's a lovechild of /pol/ and /v/.
/a/'s got nothing to do with it.

>>897904
>I thought Reddit was predominantly progressive liberal.
What do you think /pol/ is? LARPing liberals.

>>897936
He was an idiot and injected his own political bias into moderation if you knew a fucking thing about /pol/ you would know that would be signing your death sentence

>>897935
I shouldn't even respond to you but
>>894474
>2. The screenshots from 8ch of a person claiming to be a 4chan mod are unrelated, and have every indication of being fraudulent.
Modcat had nothing to do with Freddit.

>>897941
This one, you mongoloid. Nobody wants to see your shitty cartoons. We 4chan now

>>897935
>those post numbers
Go back to hotwheels.

>>897936
if he left out he's beliefs. yes it would be. because it comes off as a powertrip.

Why didn't he just post the message in a thread

>>897945
So the current staff is a bunch of spineless fucks who caved in to peer pressure? Most probably so Hiroyuki wouldn't lose that sweet ad revenue.

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>>897914
Let's just face the facts, 4chan is no longer the weeb and anime centered imageboard it used to be and with Hiro we'll only lose more and more voice and space.

This is our future.

>>897916
No, retards on /a/ post MAL or ANN links, do you believe it's any better?

>>897948
>We
False flag/10
Try harder Reddit

>>897945
>>897951
So he shouldn't have called them nazis?
That's what they object to?
I thought /pol/ was less hypocritical than that.

>>897951
>he's beliefs
What beliefs?
The threads themselves talk about "making libcucks mad" and "crushing the radical left".
The warning was completely on point.

>>897957
/pol/ is a board of peace

>>897957
Don't be cute. Moderation can't be politically biased.

>>897956
Interpret it any way you want. You know its true.

>>897948
No, that's evidently your guys.
/a/ used to have problems with crossboaders from your shitty place coming over asking for reaction images.
We banned them though.

>>897953
It's hilarious this is happening after a Japanese guy took over.

I remember threads on the Jay talking about him when moot made the announcement, going all "sugoi we'll finally be japanese again" or some dumb shit like that, but I, the ``enlightened'' person who had been on 2ch the year the personal data leak happened, knew it was the beginning of the end.

/pol/'s ego will only get fucking bigger from this

>>897961
It wasn't. If you read the text you'll see that the fact that they are nazis has nothing to do with the warning. The fact that they are "misusing public resources as a blunt instrument against marginalized communities" does.

>>897957
>>897952
/pol/ already has a troubled history with moderators power abusing. I get that alot /a/ are rip van winkles but you really don't understand anything about /pol/

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With hiro...
you lose!

>>897961
Suddenly /pol/ Harbor never happened.

I even heard RapeApe, the current "manager" and the guy who kicked modcat, personally helped moot with it.

Thanks for turning this thread into a /pol/ war, guys. You could have just ignored it, but you have to reply to everything because that's just how the internet is supposed to work in 2016.
Did you notice how early in the thread those posts were ignored and the thread stayed on track? This is basic netiquette.

>>897976
That's still political bias even if articulated in a non-caustic way.

>>897983
Yeah, this is classic /pol/ subversion tactics...

>>897977
>/pol/ already has a troubled history with moderators power abusing.
/pol/ has a history of MAKING trouble. The board is the reason why moot left.

>>897983
Yeah, I did notice that and was impressed. It's pretty obvious that the troll just started responding to himself when he realized he wasn't getting any attention.

>>897955
Only for anime related news; not to shill their own threads.

>>897987
Stating what the /pol/ threads themselves did isn't political bias you fuck.

>>897987
>That's still political bias
No, it's an enforcement of the rules.
Have you ever read those?

>>897988
>Not realising you've just replied to a /pol/fag
>Le current year may may

>>897991
Fuck m00t fuck /a/ and fuck your mod.

>>897955
It's only for news, you fucking retard. Just like how MAL isn't cool if you're just listing anime on it.

>>898000
PRAISE KEK

f/a/ggots having a meltdown because they can't have their le ebin 2005 mod that bans personally and gets fired twice
desu i am hopeful that there might be a similar mod except not so quick to reveal their power level

>>>/a/151174272

I'm going to bed. Hopefully the thread is still up when I wake up.

>>897995
>>898005

Oh boy, I guess ANN reviews, Zac shitposts on their forum and MAL ratings are some sort of anime news.

>>897996
It didn't fucking "state what they did", he brought his own judgement in. The fact he used a term like "marginalized" speaks for itself.

>>897997
Are there rules against "harassing marginalized communities" or whatever? Because that's what the message said.

Can't you see that you fucking idiots compromise your own integrity here?

>>897842
It could have just been a janitor.

Also, linking two posts isn't "a meta thread." If you want a meta thread, say it's a meta thread.

>>898012
I'm not sure what /a/ you browse, but I have a suspicion it's 8/a/.

>>898013
>Are there rules against "harassing marginalized communities" or whatever?
Rule 4.

>>898013
>>>/global/rules/3
>>>/global/rules/4

>>898017
Literal strawman, why do you faglords act as if /a/ is the purest imageboard while you are infested of shitposting generals and tripfag circlejerks, starting with the madoka ones.

You're better off using the /a/ thread, this thread is already infected by /pol/ trying to (successfully) derail it.

>>898010
>>898026
I'm surprised it has stayed up this long.

>>898026
Typical /a/ Din du nuffin

>>897938
Please read Manager's first point in the sticky. It's perfectly described there.

>>898023
>Literal strawman,
No, just lack of experience on your part.
>why do you faglords act as if /a/ is the purest imageboard
We don't. It's just that your ignorance means you fail to guess its actual flaws.
>infested of shitposting generals and tripfag circlejerks, starting with the madoka ones.
Something that modcat actively fought. Hey, so you do know *something* about /a/. Generals, yes.
But otherwise, and just for your information, we have barely any tripfags.

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I only started lurking /a/ late 2011, so I don't know much about modcat, all I know is that he was a really good mod and he was very active in 2008, but wasn't he fired once by moot? Did he come back and now he is fired again?

>>898033
Yeah, thanks filters for that you now can enjoy a board with a bit less tripfags but the same circlejerks and attention whores using filenames to identify each other, /a/ oldfag.

>>898043
>with a bit less tripfags
>a bit
Tripfags have gone down from 10% to 1%.
That's not a bit. That's quite significant.

>using filenames to identify each other
I'm not sure what threads you are talking about.

>>897959
It's not the job of the mods being moralfags. They can talk about this shit on their /j/ board but the bans and warnings havve to be a standard scheme and not a lecture about morality and life itself.
It's just not their job. If they have got something to say they can post it in the thread. It's totally legit that guy got fired.

>>898047
>xfag
>waifufag
>husbandofag
>specific fetishfag

You know the drill, don't pretend.

>>898051
Ah, you're right. I like to pretend those don't exist.

>>898047
Jojo, Kancolle, Madoka, the It's time one. You can tell who is who easily.

>>897859
I'm not supporting war, but Modcat wouldn't have had to step in in the first place if /pol/ wasn't doing this stupid RWSS bullshit.

>>897728
Our mods have names?

>>898079
They used to, until moot made them swear an oath of silence, as he was preparing to leave.

>>897746
Victory at last, this is the one and only time I'll thank /pol/.

>>897756
No one cares about you /jp/sie fucks and your "wch2huwudu?" ironic weeabooo meme board. /a/ was actually fairly decent once and it could have been again with good moderation.

>>897686
he should of stayed on /a/ instead of giving warning about homophobia on /pol/ of all places

>>898113
It was /qa/.
It was also not about homophobia, but explaining that calls for raids are against the rules.

>>898113
It was /qa/ and was a response to one of their doxing threads against a completely unrelated mexican teenager.
You want to know the kicker? The way they tracked down his name?
Fucking sheeky forums. Someone apparently tracked down sheeky's scrape of a thread and then I guess someone googled the random name and found some mexican kid's facebook. /pol/ is hardcore.

>>898119
Still he shouldn't have wrote that, even if it was ironic, it was pretty clear that he just wanted annoy /pol/, it sucks and I'm still sad about the matter, but he should have known better.

>>898127
>Still he shouldn't have wrote that,
But the guy in question specifically asked for a reason why the original thread was deleted. Don't ask if you don't want answers.

>>898119
your right about it being on /qa/ but he made his warning LBGTQRSA orientated and called people neo nazis which gives the impression that he is biased and got b&d for it

I'd give them another chance. It's hard enough to come across someone eligible.

>>898125
I do wonder why he didn't just post it with his mod capcode on instead of giving it as a warning.

>>898135
That's what he should have done.

>>898132
>he made his warning LBGTQRSA orientated
The original thread was "LBGTQRSA orientated".

>>898135
The way he was speaking in the /jp/ thread on /qa/, it seemed like he didn't yet have the permission to post with it again.

>>898142
Kind of sad that such an old mod has so many restrictions placed on his behavior.

>>898149
Reminder that he used to pick grils on /soc/ abusing warnings.

>>898166
/soc/ was a mistake.

>>898130
He could've answered it by saying "They're not /pol/ related"

Instead he just had to shoehorn in the part about how it's hurting the poor LGBT community.

>>898169
>"They're not /pol/ related"
They are /pol/ related.
They are just also against the rules, and he explained why.

>>898172
They weren't /pol/ related at all. It had nothing to do with politics. That's all he had to say. Instead he took the preachy leftist route.

>>898135
It's more polite to say such things in private rather than in public though, isn't it?

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Didn't modcat make a post and sticky it in like 2013 saying he was leaving?

>>898140
read the fucking sticky
1. Hiro and I have discussed the matter, and as a result the mod responsible for this warning has been fired. 4chan has a templated system of bans in order to ensure that the rules are enforced in a standardized way across all boards, and this mod decided to circumvent those templates in order to deliver a political message. Doing so was highly inappropriate as it demonstrated that the mod's motivation was not to enforce the rules, but to enforce his personal beliefs. This is outside the mandate of a 4chan moderator, and grounds for termination.

>>898179
>2013
I think that was 2010 or 2011.

>>898177
Most of his message was completely right, but he fucked up with mentioning LGBT, that triggers /pol/ to no end.

I know this makes you all butthurt but /pol/ is the largest board now and it is growing very rapidly as right wing ideology spreads across the western world. More users = more 4chan passes. You are becoming irrelevant to the site.

Hiroyuki should make a sister site to 4chan, call it whatever the fuck he wants, and move /pol/ to it.

>>898252
No one is questioning those things.

Modcat what the fuck, I thought you were fully aware that /b/ can't be fixed anymore and that was 7 fucking years ago. Now you tried to tell /pol/ it's stupid when it's much worse than /b/ could ever have gotten? You fucked up pretty hard.

>>898252
Doesn't change the fact that /pol/ is basically cancer, is killing the site, and made moot left.

>>898303
As kind of an oldfag (2011) , /pol/ is only cancerish because of it's crossboarding behaviors. It's not that bad of a board and Moot leaved because he became a shitty SJW faggot.
I still miss him because Hiro is killing the website.

Anyway, /pol/ shouldn't be your bogeyman, Hiro and the shitty mods should.

>>898303
moot was the one who started shit. He literally tried to destroy our board, you expect us to act nice to him after that?

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Here is a quick recap for those who didn't understand what happen or don't know what the "Right Wing Safety Squad" or "DIY general" threads were about.

Thank me later for this work of meme archeology

Part I
> commies on Reddit, leftypol or wherever decided to raid /pol/ (as per a couple of screenshots that got posted on /pol/)
> they publicized our little peaceful board, tried to force the "communist general" meme (nothing wrong with that except for the forced part, really), posted, lurked and pissed in that ocean of piss
> some anon made a thread calling for reports on the leftists dwellings for fire code violation, to capitalize on the Oakland fire
> said thread died at 170 or so

Part II
> commies that didn't get the fact that it died before reaching bump limit (meaning the idea died) and saw the original thread drew attention to it in their hanging places (Reddit, Facebook, etc) with a link to the 4plebs archive
> their ilk, not knowing how we roll, raided the 4plebs archive thread thinking it's the live thread [1]
> more than 600 of their posts were directed to the archive, revealing it hit a nerve
> with the newfound attention and the influx of tasty salt a community of safety minded individuals built on the idea and made it a general
> that grew in size and activity, generated great memes and comradery rivaling only in activity with Trump related activity
>many unsafe places were closed by fire dpt after complaints of fire code and other violations, arguably because of these complaints (but who knows, right?)

It is important to highlight that those places wouldn't be closed if they followed safety code meaning the complaints had merit and were not fake

Part III
> with this big vein of salt open more OC was created, threads for fast meaning more attention, more concerned citizens doing the civic duties until it started getting press attention

(continues)

[1] http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/101951584/#q101994775_362

>>898314
He could delete the board at any time, moron. You think the owner of the website couldn't "destroy" a board if he wanted to?
/pol/ harbor was meant to flush out the activists and it did its job as 8gag demonstrated.

>>898327
No one cares about your social media cancer. Go update your facebook with more epic frog memes.

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Here, probably most of this log isn't relevant but here is modcat (asan) talking about it and whatever else was going on around that time.

http://pastebin.com/k5QZLSUi

>>898312
>2011
>oldfag

be quiet eternal summer cancer.

moot left because he'd spent 10 years and had accumulated massive debt trying to keep 4chan running well and independently without the cancer ads that hiro is putting up.

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>>898327
Part III continues

> now, the general tone of the press articles was "that's bad but not illegal, seems like they have something there, fucking nazi frogs"
> even your favorite "girl" Brianna Wu had a few words at the ViCE article
> a nerve was clearly touched as, enough, there was either a couple of outsiders (from the same forums that tried to raid /pol/, see part I) or a very dedicated individual spamming /qa/ complaining about the threads, generating even more salt and unwanted attention to this meta board

Now, from here on I'm speculating but the facts that followed seems to confirm my theory

Part IV
> both the unwanted attention to /qa/ and the certainly unwanted attention to 4chan (because who wants another presidential candidate at war with a local Nazi frog at their hands right?) caught attention of the mod team
> a clear outsider mod (/pol/ knows, they notice the change in patterns in moderation even if it is anonymous) waited until the next thread was created and banned everybody that post on it while also deleting the thread
> /pol/, being smarter than most people give credit, both didn't raise much of a ruckus about the deletions (except for a couple of newfags) but started raising even more about the rogue mod (as there was a screenshot purposely showing a mod conspiring with the external raiders)
> the "intersectional theory of privilege" (sort of) warning was the smoking gun and the mod probably got sacked out of a technicality

Now, here is my conclusion

> /rwss/ was a side quest for /pol/ as Trump and happenings more or less took over as the main focus of the board
> it's loss was bad but not tragic and it could pretty much return in one form or another when the fire dies down a little
> the mod being sacked, specially one beloved by /a/ will be taken as a victory and as collateral damage to that board.
> One wonders if this very thread won't be the catalyst of some new vein of salt, you guys know how hard those are

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>>898350
We only have 12 fucking mods? Are you fucking kidding me.

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>>898312
>As kind of an oldfag
>(2011)

Thanks for the laugh this early in the morning. You should have no discussion in this

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>>898350
Why is he talking about himself in third-person?

>>898350
God, D3VNt is a fucking faggot.

>>898376
2009 here, how many posts may I make. Just this one?

>>898383
You're banished from the land

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Lie

>>898350
Thank you.

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>>898373

No, the rest of the boards have 1 mod, /tg/ has the other 11 who diligently make sure no off topic posting happens under their constant watchful eyes.

>>898327
>>898367
reasonable accurate timeline of events and outcomes. the fact /a/ is shitter shattered over both m0t and this communist faggot of a mod is truly glorious.

>>898382
Truly i wonder why they didnt kick him out

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>>898327
>>898367
Jesus, I could barely read this without ripping my eyes out. Thanks for the information, but is English your first language?

>>898423
Obviously not. You read it all, right?! Mission accomplished

>>898314
/pol/ has never existed. you're always /b/ to us

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>>898314
What is with /pol/ and their fucktarded notion that admins and mods are somehow afraid to touch them?

>>898451
If it's not that then it's something else.

They're just a bunch of kids with gang mentality. It's just something to do because they don't have actual hobbies. If they aren't forcing imaginary lines in the sand and creating enemies out of one group, then they'll just move on to another.

>>898256
That's how 8chair started though, and nothing has changed. Also, if Hiro really is only interested in money (personally, I don't think that's true), then once he's moved /pol/, why not shut down 4chan completely?

>>898479
>That's how 8chair started though, and nothing has changed.
Moving something is very different from copying it.

>then once he's moved /pol/, why not shut down 4chan completely?
If the rest of 4chan can't pay for itself, which I don't find likely, then there would be nothing stopping him from handing it to someone else for $tacos.

>>898373
We have eleven now, I assume.

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>>898433
> /pol/ has never existed. you're always /b/ to us

You say that as if you were making an insult.

Another timeline for you

Part I
> 15 years old moot launches 4chan in 2003
> first crowds ranges from -4 to +4 of that age in general (meaning folks between 11 and 19yo)
> puerile memes and unfettered do cedarikn keep that crowd satisfied for a couple of years, along with a couple of stunts now and then by /b/ (Habbo Hotel raids was 10 years ago, now I'm feeling sad and old)
> Back then there was not such thing as "we", people simply went with the flow and the best ideas survived the churn of the boards (no catalog or (you)s then)
> then come "hackers in steroids", "over 9000 penises" and mainstream media attention, the first death of /b/

Part II
> come 2007-2008 and people really starts paying attention to internet
> Obama's campaign (powered by internet activism) along with the blossoming of sites like Facebook, 9gag and the like helps to create a sense of "we" in the internet crowd
> doing it for "the lulz" is slowly replaced by "hacktivism" by people that didn't get the sarcastic way the mob operated and wanted to be a force for good
> comes project chanology and drives the last nail in old /b/, old mob rule "anonymous" and help pave the way to nu-anonymous guy fawkes masked (unironically after the EFG that they didn't even know existed) spokesperson having media talking collective.
> that, along with FBI infiltrating, coordinating and entrapping most of the "leadership" of this movement helped to dislodge the old crowd, now without /b/ as its home

Part III

> the place was a walking dead and overrun by the generation that would give us 9gag and MLP and the old crowd as at a diaspora
> many ended up on /int/, /sp/, /v/, original nazi /pol/, Reddit many lulzy communities (like coontown and fatpeoplehate) and Twitter

Now remember: time has past and the old /b/ crowd got older and of voting age.

(continues)

>>898510
Hurry up negro i usually write both posts before hand

>>898510
>retarded and proud

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>>898510
>>898433
Part III continues

> now, the nu-/b/ crowd, drunk on media attention as a force for good merges with the nascent SJW crowd
> it could be chanology of Westboro or the Arab spring but this crowd understood that as long as they targeted "acceptable targets" (meaning status quo approved targets) thy could get away with it
> at the same time the "intersectional theory of privilege" gains strength in the academy and social justice circles meaning White, Anglo Saxon, Heterosexual are fair game even if it is the most unprivileged and ostracized group sharing these characteristics (poor, basement dweller geeks, gamers and other outcasts)

(Continues)

im a oldfag i read encyclopedia dramatica now check out my wall of greentext in poor english

>>898538
>the most unprivileged and ostracized group
this is almost certainly pedophiles

>>898382
Commie.

>>898451
They are anonymous and they cannot be forgiven.
Expect them.

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>>898526
Sorry, was typing on the phone on a train ride. Not mobile anymore now

>>898538

Part III continues

> If wikipedia is to be trusted Operation Payback [1] must be the peak moments of hacktivism and the downfall of the remainder of old /b/ guard that didn't jump ship.
> They got infiltrated, subverted and eventually arrested and used as moles and informants
> The Arab Spring and the Occupy movements used the old imagery of /b/ (guy fawkes masks, DDOSing sites) to capitalize on the media attention
> Social Justice and hacktivism go hand in hand and, here is where things get interesting, the very crowd that dislodged old /b/ from 4chan decided to go after them at their new hanging spots.
> it starts slowly, with the forced progressivisms of the left making its way through media and game companies
> first on journalism and then on tech companies, always concerned about the shadow of Al Sharpton breathing down their necks for lack of diversity
> old /b/ was composed of introverts, new /b/ (now /b/-/soc/) is composed of extroverts, party goers, TED talk audience, social media users "normalfags"

Now, and I hope I don't get on the admins bad side, assuming moot still shows his face around these parts


Part IV

> now the social justice hackitivist bastion of free speech crowd is in position to effect real change
> see Moot, in 2011, basking on the glory of being a role model for the young crowd [2], giving them a lecture on freedom of speech
> A year before he was giving Ted Talks and testifying on the Sarah Palin email hacking trial against some anon
> New new /b/ doesn't care, dank memes (like Scumbag Steve, Business Cat and Rebecca Black Friday) abound and even make the mainstream media, a dream come true for this new 15 years old crowd.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_events_associated_with_Anonymous#Operations_Payback.2C_Avenge_Assange.2C_and_Bradical

[2] http://hackny.org/2011/07/hackny-summer-series-lecture-chris-poole-a-k-a-moot/

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>>898565
To shorten something that is really taking its time here is the express summary:

> come 2014 and all of a sudden "gamers are dead", "geek is chick and needs no love for games or tech" and "love for games or tech is yucky and basement dweller level"
> the old/b/ crowd is all grown up (kicking over 20 on average), intelligent and without shame or pride
> hacktivist and SJW crowd starts "no platforming" and kicking old/b/ out of their newfound places: reddit dark side subs, /pol/harbor and game communities
> now at the verge of losing their hanging places and old hobbies geeks, nerds and other outcasts lash out
> gamergate fires the opening retaliatory salvo, paves way for what's to come even if the results were not remarkable
> /pol/ (and it's colonies on twitter and reddit) capitalize on Trump's message of politically incorrectness and zerg rushes the internet for the lulz
> Trump takes advantage of the built up rage on the acceptable target crowd and cater to them on his campaign
> this form a positive feedback look of old /b/ rage amplifying Trump's campaign outrage building leftist impotent rage and they end up lashing out at the wrong target: rural conservative american white working class

And here we are. Old /b/ ended up being new /pol/. We roamed the world and ended up at the same place, with the same bag of tricks /rwss/ being the latest iteration of that.

End of storytelling. I'll be in my bunk

>>898577
You could have just summed it up with "4chan is what I see in epic screenshots".

literally who

>>897686
Stay mad.
You should have known better not to challenge /pol/.
If he wasn't a libby retard he would still be a mod.
Who knew bringing in lefty ideology while banning /pol/acks would be a bad idea? WHO FUCKING KNEW?
The moron deserved it.

literally who

>That cat

Jojo reference?

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>>897727
>>897686
I am the guy who posted pic related.
I am drinking a beer now while laughing at you.

I hate how /a/ gives every stupid mod a pet name.

Mods need to be bullied and verbally assaulted. They are not your friends. They are high functioning autists.

>>898609
Don't worry, no charge for them.

>>898609
Shut the fuck up /v/, no one cares about your opinion.

>>898608
>I am drinking a beer now
holy shit you're cool

>>898622
dude he's also laughing
like what a badass

>>898203
He was probably being coi as well, but /pol/ has no sarcasm meter.

>>898350
Kk. That's crossing the line.
4chan is dead and I'm taking it down with me.

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>>898608
Where we're you when a /pol/tard single handedly made the 4chan mod team bend the knee?

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>>897957
>>897952
>So the current staff is a bunch of spineless fucks who caved in to peer pressure?
You guys don't understand shit. Having valid arguments is not spineless. The pic in the fucking sticky in /pol/ is an explaination and list of logical fallacies.

If you try to argue with a /pol/ack and you use silly "muh, feelings" arguments, you will get BTFO.
Your beloved faggot mod used
> SJWs feel harassed. You will get banned if you hurt their feelings
He reasoned with feelings and added his own private political bias.
Not the "neo-nazi" thing is the problem, his personal bias and the logical fallacy is.

btw. the current reasoning for banning /diy/ threads is stupid too. Helping the executive is not Off-Topic on a political board.
But this is not a logical fallacy, the argument is just wrong. Arguments which are wrong are better than "Muh, feelings".

>>898622
>>898643
Delicious tears

>>897784
The difference is one of them actually happened and it wasn't /pol/'s claim :^)

>>898350
Dec 19 16:06:18 <asan> the entire reason there was even a problem
Dec 19 16:06:24 <asan> was because the ban reason was manually typed in
Dec 19 16:06:33 <asan> thus giving the impression of there being political bias behind it
Dec 19 16:06:39 <asan> when there actually wasn't
Dec 19 16:06:42 <asan> actually nah, though
Dec 19 16:06:48 <asan> because I wasn't even the first person to do anything about those threads
Dec 19 16:06:51 <asan> I came in LATE actually

And I thought it couldn't get worse.

>>898667
So the only reason is cried long and loud enough that Hiroyuki and his bitch RapeApe had to take action.

Fucking A.

>>898660
You're an idiotic newfag.
For all the time you talk about conspiracies you certainly can't grasp that there's a massive divide between the mod team and Hiro right now and that mods have always been ironic.

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>>898350
Only 12 mods for this entire shithole and they fired one of the best ones.

>>898660
I bet you don't even know the series that girl is from.

>>898667
>>898669
I'm really hoping for this to become a shitstorm, but I just don't think it will happen. You can't compete with /pol/'s page views, nor their eagerness to shitpost entire boards into oblivion if they don't get their way. Remember that they don't lose anything if 4chan fails. They can move on to their other sites as if nothing happened.

>>898670
Please ignore those posts.

>>898672
>best
He was a commie.
He became a good commie.

>>898670
You can be ironic and still have valid arguments without logical fallacies and political bias.

Your beloved modcat was in full SJW-mode and went on a rampage
>1. Hiro and I have discussed the matter, and as a result the mod responsible for this warning has been fired. 4chan has a templated system of bans in order to ensure that the rules are enforced in a standardized way across all boards, and this mod decided to circumvent those templates in order to deliver a political message. Doing so was highly inappropriate as it demonstrated that the mod's motivation was not to enforce the rules, but to enforce his personal beliefs. This is outside the mandate of a 4chan moderator, and grounds for termination.

>>898451
They are the most viewed and posted on board on 4chan and thus the biggest revenue generator?

>>898672
/jp/ really can't get a break.

>>898685
/pol/ is not bigger than /b/ or /v/.

>>898673
It's from oreimo you fucking leftist scum
Your tear is delicious, yiff in a hell faggot

>>898681
>and went on a rampage
All he did was send a "warn" message because some retard asked what was wrong with the threads.
Stop exaggerating you dramatic fuck.

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1,000,000 posts a day
70 boards
Only 12 mods
12 MODS

>>898674
>I'm really hoping for this to become a shitstorm, but I just don't think it will happen.
Considering threads about it on /a/ have been deleted even though they said "Hiroyuki allowed us to have one meta thread per board", it's clear those spineless fucks are trying to avoid repercussions.

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>>898685
>he thinks the people who went to /pol/ for the election stayed afterward

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>>898688
Check the posting stats. /pol/ is the largest board on 4chan.

>>898672
>>898691
Are you guys sure that wasn't just the number of them idling in IRC or something? This sounds so hard to believe.

>>898698
Not after the election it isn't.

>>898695
Some of them did, some of them did not.

>>898690
Stop sucking his commie dick.
He banned people both in /qa/ and /pol/ for even asking about it.
Did you read the contents of the warn message?
He was pushing liberal bullshit.

>>898667
What a crying faggot.
> banning something because SJWs feel harassed
> because of a specific political group of extremists doesn't like it
> not a political bias
He just doen't get it.

>>898698
>/pol/ack thinks his shitty board is bigger than /v/

You guys got cheeky after that elections, huh.

>>898700
A-san's words.

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>>898698
because you have a 15 seconds reply timer, mods that don't give a flying fuck about any global/local rules and you constantly invite social networks over.

>>898667
That d3vnt guy is one hell of an autistic faggot.
Trying to derail at every chance he gets.

>>898690
Although I agree it was a very harsh response (instead of an Obama "cut it out") based on the pastebin posted above it really seems that mod overplayed his hand to enforce his political belief.

Getting rid of /rwss/ for the reason they did (or even for no reason at all) would be completely fine but, as seen in many other internet venues that started as "bastions of free speech" as soon as mods start exercising editorial control things go downhill from there.

Ironically (given that it is /pol/ we are talking about) diversity of opinions is really important for a site to thrive, even if it is the wrong kind of opinion.

>>898708
>a specific political group of extremists doesn't like it
Hmm. Do you own a mirror by any chance?

>>898720
Yeah but

The threads are still being deleted and banned.

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>>898690
It was NOT a single warn message!
He went on a rampage in /pol/ (and maybe /qa/ too), banned a lot of people with exactly the same text as "reason".

>>898720
>other internet venues that started as "bastions of free speech"
4chan was never this place. Do you think bans are unconstitutional? If you want free speech a private forum is not the place to find it.

>>898717
>constantly invite social networks over

Proofs?
The closest thing to "inviting" is getting mentioned in CNN and other shitty sites by liberal journalists.

>>898725
God forbid he explains exactly why he and other mods were banning the threads, lol.

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>wanting some sensitive lefty faggot to moderate /a/

Good riddance. I assume he was the one who wanted to stamp out loli threads and anything else he deemed a "problematic" "fetish".

>>898725
Did he say anything non-factual ?

>>898700
>>898700
Dec 19 16:07:07 <asan> also I like how you're assuming there's constant moderation
Dec 19 16:07:12 <asan> there's what, 12 mods?
Dec 19 16:07:17 <asan> a few dozen janitors?
Dec 19 16:07:30 <asan> the site has been understaffed for years

>>898732
I see him posting clothed loli in the IRC all the time.

>>898732
The only one who's been banning thinly veiled fetish threads on /a/ is kami, who's still a mod, you fucking retard.

>>898689
>If I don't agree with you I'm a leafist

God, you /pol/tards are just like the niggers and refugees that you so hate.

Wikipedia says there are 20 mods you dumbdumbs.

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>>898721
>Hmm. Do you own a mirror by any chance?
I know that i have a political opinion.
But, believe it or not, this doesn't mean that i punish everyone who doesn't share my opinion. It is perfectly possible for me to have valid arguments and not just "Muh feelings".

If someone would ban every commie thread in /pol/, i would be against it too. I don't like lefties, i have a different opinion, but still i don't want to ban them just because they maybe upset me.

> pic related is what i posted after >>898608

>>898577
tl;dr

The cancer returned, but now it's/pol/ instead of /b/.

>>898729
>Proofs?
You are fucking dense. /pol/ is all over reddit, twitter, facebook, youtube, media comment sections actively recruits from these places for its activism. Why do you think /pol/ ballooned in size and crashed the servers multiple times? Don't play coy because we both know /pol/ sees social media as an extension of its "mission".

>>898732
You clearly know nothing and should refrain from speaking in the thread.

>>898733
>>898730
> logical fallacies
> political bias
> i don't know whats wrong

>>898744
Your threads are still being deleted you deluded fuck.

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>>898739
I hope he's the next one in line to get shitcanned, then.

>>898755
read >>898660
>btw. the current reasoning for banning /diy/ threads is stupid too. Helping the executive is not Off-Topic on a political board.
>But this is not a logical fallacy, the argument is just wrong. Arguments which are wrong are better than "Muh, feelings".

>>898733
>"Fire Safety" threads are an attempt to missuse publice resources
Here, missuse implies that enforcing fire safety legislation isn't exaclty what these resources were set up for
>against marginalized communities
Lefty """arists""" have been given a pretty large platform to speak and convey their ideas, they have not been treated as insignficant at all.
>It is not about preventing fire code regulations
The entire point is to report breaches of fire code regulations to the relevant authority.
>It is about neo-nazis
lel
>using the bureaucracy of stat instutions to harass
Telling the authorities about illegal activities is not harassment
>the LGBT community
These spaces are political, there's some overlap with LGBT, but they are not one and the same, niether all the owners, organisers, inhabitants or performers at such places are LGBT nor does every LGBT person use them.

>>898727
You are using the "you can't ban me, that violates my first amendment rights" strawman and I never made that point or would ever make because

1) I agree that the first amendment only limits what the government can do with regards of speech
2) I understand that private venues can arbitrarily accept or deny service for whatever reason they feel like, within the limits of the law (protected classes and all)

But neither of those points have anything to do with what I said or with freedom of speech.

Freedom of speech, along with other rights mentioned at the US constitution (like freedom of assembly or right to self defense) is a natural right that can never be granted (you are born with them) only taken away.

Of course private venues like 4chan and others can always decide what they allow at their premises without getting afoul of the first amendment (as it does not apply to them) but that denies freedom of speech to its guests all the same, it just isn't constitutional violation.

Now you say 4chan was never this place (and that was the same argument Reddit admins used to ban FPH and coontown).

But at the height of the occupy movement, the Arab spring and other examples of "hacktivism" moot, spez and other social media representatives were doing talks and world tours extolling the virtues of their bastions of freedom of speech and how they enabled people to bypass government arbitrary restrictions on their speech.

Ironically (with the exception of 4chan) these are the same companies doing government bidding in suppressing undesirable speech (with the most recent examples being hate speech and fake news).

I can dig up moot himself explaining how 4chan was a bastion of free speech all the way from 2010 to 2014 if you want.

>>898766
All those speeches moot gave were bullshit, the delusions had gotten to him thanks to all the media coverage 4chan was getting.

You seriously believe him when he's working for fucking GOOGLE now?

>>897751
Are you shitting me? Completely accurate?

If someone like KusKus can get shitcanned because some dumbass far-left janny baits him into an argument over Christmas break, so can modcat. The pendulum swings both ways.

This is now the second confirmed time we've lost a moderator because of political issues. You'd think someone who's been around since 2004, 2005 would know that and know not to insert their fucking political beliefs into a goddamn warn message. His message read like it was straight out Tumblr.

And if he was willing to put that in a message, I don't want to think about what he might've said in IRC. Or how, in many sublte different ways, he could have injected his beliefs onto /a/. We're going through a critical period with a lot of changes going on to how mods and janitors deal with certain things on /a/, I don't want any changes to come from people like that, despite any nostalgia boner.

>>898766
Mods had the discretion be as trolly as possible under moot.
Being ironic and obnoxious was the definition of 4chan.
You could say what you want, but in the end we're all just a bunch of nobodies infront of a computer.

Hiro and RA are trying to change 4change into a "no fun allowed zone".
Booting Asan is only one step here.

>>898770
He meant what he said back then.

He just didn't know he would grow out of doing things for the lulz and start to want to do things for the betterment of making.

He repented, wanted to taste the social life but we anchored him. That's why he cut and ran

>>898734
>a few dozen janitors
There's a line between bullshit - considering there have been thousands of applications in the past --- and hindsight - considering you literally have janitors providing ID and signing agreements and shit

>>898776
He's making memes. At a company known for standing for the complete opposite of anonymity and privacy.

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>>898774
They should just remove pic related from the rules since apparently it does not apply any more.

>>898774
> defending a mod who bans people based on "Muh, you can't just hurt the feelings of lefties, don't say mean things".
> 4chan was better when everyone could say what he wanted

>>898753
>/pol/ is all over reddit, twitter, facebook, youtube, media comment sections

I know the reddit one is merely a colony that /pol/ made to expand Trump's message.
However, the /pol/ name is rarely seen.
Nobody is "actively recruiting" saying "Hey guys come on over to /pol/ in this really cool site!!"
A LOT of people came from /pol/ being mentioned by journalists both in TV and shitty sites.

People are merely expressing their opinion on those sites, you can't really reach people by shitposting in /pol/. You are right in the sense that /pol/ sees social media an extension. It was necessary.

>>898778
And how many of them do you think go through??

>>898785
If they're somehow understaffed after all these years, it's CLEARLY NOT ENOUGH.

>>898766
You have freedom of speech because people with tanks and bombs say you have freedom of speech. Your libertarian "every man is free" is pointless sophistry in the real world.

>Now you say 4chan was never this place (and that was the same argument Reddit admins used to ban FPH and coontown).
I sure did say that, and I don't give a fuck about reddit. Private website. Private rules. If you don't like it start your own website. You're holding up 4chan as this tool for your political crusade and it's fucking irritating. This is what happens when there's no admin to enforce a culture, it gets misused and re-purposed for bullshit like politics.

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>>898778
Moots last news post said there were around 100 volunteers. How many of those do you think are really active or are even still around? Janitor drives might get a few more people every time but at the same time others will be dropping out due to inactivity.

>>898784
Are you kidding? They mention /pol/ on Fox News regularly.

>>898788
Do you think jamming a bunch of people through every few months is even remotely a good idea for 4chan? Without at least attempting to vet them and let people gain experience?

Getting 10 new people for a board, training them for a few hours and releasing them is a great fucking way to shit up a board. We just lost a janny on /vg/ if I recall because he decided to one day delete half the catalog, and now we lost asan because he wanted to get all christy about his politics. And he was a fucking veteran of 4chan, still didn't know any better.

Who do you want running your board?

Modcat is not coming back, is he?

If only /a/ was full of babies like /pol/, maybe we could throw a tantrum like they did and get him back.

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>>898799
whole 4chan is radical left wing desu.

>>898799
Which was my point when saying
>A LOT of people came from /pol/ being mentioned by journalists both in TV and shitty sites.

By "the /pol/ name is rarely seen" I meant in reddit and twitter. Whenever it gets mentioned it's usually by it liberal, not a /pol/ack 'recruiting" like that retard was saying.

>>898810
What is that >10 year old photoshop relevant to exaclty?

>>898784
You're delusional if you really think /pol/ exploded in population was just a coincidence. You even admitted that /pol/ sees social media as an extension of itself, so why are you surprised when social media comes to /pol/ instead of the other way around? /pol/ does not make any effort to hide itself and in fact sees notoriety and attention as a positive thing.
It's the nature of activism to seek out and proselytize as much as you can.

>>898817
>photoshop
How new are you? 4chan wasn't "far left" but it used to be libertarian, and that TV channel thought that was considered far left.

>>897976
>misusing public resources against marginalized communities
That's a political statement.

From someone's point of view, they could be "taking just and proper action to ensure marginalized communities aren't at risk of slumlords pushing substandard housing". That's a political statement as well.

Mods shouldn't use politics, you get reddit.

>>898825
>From someone's point of view, they could be "taking just and proper action to ensure marginalized communities aren't at risk of slumlords pushing substandard housing".
No, the threads themselves stated this was done to "piss off libcucks" and "crush the radical left".
You aren't fooling anyone.

>>898822
That picture is an old and relatively famous photoshop, mostly because morons like yourself see the image posted, and actually believe it to be real without ever actually seeing any other context but the image and knowing who Bill O'Reilly is, and Fox News has never actually called us far left even when we domestic terrorists and messing with football they never suggested we were doing it for any other reason than the 'lulz'.

Politics ruin everything, huh?

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>>898835

>>898830
Those are political statements as well. Did you miss the point of that post?

I know you're mad that your lefty mod got the boot but please try to read and think critically.

>>898819
>so why are you surprised when social media comes to /pol/ instead of the other way around?
Pretty sure nobody is surprised, it was to be expected.

>/pol/ does not make any effort to hide itself
It isn't 2005. This site is more than well known.

>and in fact sees notoriety and attention as a positive thing.
The one thing /pol/ enjoys is making liberals mad. Notoriety and attention couldn't be helped, again it was to be expected.

>It's the nature of activism to seek out and proselytize as much as you can.
/pol/ merely plants the seeds and let them grow on their own.

>>898825
It's not a political statement, it's what even you retards were saying.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/101951584/
>REPORT ALL "ARTSPACES" AND ILLEGAL VENUES TO CRUSH THE RADICAL LEFT.
>These places are open hotbeds of liberal radicalism and degeneracy and now YOU can stop them by reporting all such places
>Watch them and follow them to their hives. Infiltrate social circles, go to parties/events, record evidence, and report it. We've got them on the run but now we must crush their nests before they can regroup!

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/102291916/
>CRUSH ILLEGAL LEFT SPACES BY REPORTING FIRE AND BUILDING CODE VIOLATIONS

After they got called out on it, they thought they cool fool the mods and started saying it was "for the safety of leftists" or whatever.

>>898842
So you fully agree that /pol/ reaches out into those cancerous places to recruit. Why did we have to have this discussion?

>>898843
because /rwss/ was staffed entirely by a single person?

/rwss/ originated on the political board, it has "right-wing" in the title. It is expected to be political.

Mod policies should not ever be political. If you politicize moderation, you get reddit. Isn't the whole purpose of "delet pol" so we don't get reddit?

>>898789
You agree with all my points but is too dense to understand it.

I agree that folks with guns and tanks and bombs protect our freedom of speech but they do not grant it, they only prevent other guys with bombs, tanks and guns to remove it from us.

Even that is a product of our natural rights: freedom of assembly and the guarantor of them all: right to self defense. Both cannot also be granted, only removed and by force.

As for your autistic screeching about "don't like the site, go start your own" it goes both ways.

I'm fine with 4chan as it is, it is not me complaining about /pol/ existence or behaviour. I also agree with the mods doing as they see fit and the owner and admins removing said mod as they see fit.

Really, it's not /pol/ trying to kick others from this site or change their behaviour (in general, there are exceptions).

Think about it

>>898848
>recruit
You should look up the definition of the word and then come back.

>>898830
>the point of the post.
>your head.

>>898843
lookat dis mindreader!

Thanks for the cancer, /pol/.

>>898853
>I'm fine with 4chan as it is, it is not me complaining about /pol/ existence or behaviour
You have no reason to complain about it for obvious reasons.

>Really, it's not /pol/ trying to kick others from this site or change their behaviour (in general, there are exceptions).
Are you serious? /pol/ wants anyone that doesn't actively discuss politics at all times out of here. If you want real life politics outside of your hobbyist board you're called every juvenile meme insult in the book as the thread gets destroyed. Even if they didn't actively shit on the people and culture here, their presence makes it impossible for the old one to persist.


>>898854
recruit
3. enroll (someone) as a member or worker in an organization or as a supporter of a cause.

>>898835
No. You just have the wrong impression that this would be the case.

If something good comes out of politics, nobody cares about it, but if something bad happens, suddenly everyone is talking about politics. If everything is running fine, you don't have a reason to talk about politics.
This is the reason why in democratic countries the voter turnout is going down, if the wealth is going up.

>>898830
Your beloved faggot mod baned because of
> Muh, SJWs feel harassed. You can't just hurt their feelings
This is political bias.
If i say that i feel harassed because of some leftypol commie, it shouldn't get banned too. Acting in favor of one specific political group is a political statement.
"I ban you because those people don't like your political opinion" is as bad as "I ban you because you don't share my political opinion".

>>898869
You finally know the meaning of the word.
These people came here on their own accord after they read it on some shit article or saw it on TV, nobody made a picture saying "come to x in x site" and posted it on twitter or whatever.

The claim that /pol/ was "recruiting" is bullshit.

>>898871
>> Muh, SJWs feel harassed. You can't just hurt their feelings
Ah yes, that's exactly what he said in the "warn" message, and it's not a strawman at all.

Maybe going to Gensokyo isn't that bad of an idea after all.

>>898880
It is not a strawman, it is the exact interpretation of what he said in the warn message. Just because he used other words doesn't mean that the meaning behind it is different.
I just use other words so that stupid people like /qa/ regulars and people who are not able to spot logical fallacies are able to see whats wrong.

It is explained in the pic here >>898608
why it is perfectly legal and why it isn't harassment. And i think we can be sure that the mod does know that.
So your mod called it "harassment" because SJWs felt harassed and not because it was illegal. This means that it is based on the feelings of one specific political group.