Mods, if you don't want hentai discussion on /a/, you need

ok

>>1434178
I saw the /a/ thread, did you get a board ban?

>>1434183
No, but the thread on /a/ will probably get deleted by a janitor before a mod sees it. At least here, there's a chance it will get seen.

>>1434218
I remember it being moved to /h/ due to it being treated like a general and thus the overall quality in the thread was in the gutter. Best of luck convincing them to do so otherwise.

>>1434178
>/h/ used to only be for dumping, and that was an official rule. Discussion on /h/ used to get deleted. This shift of /h/ being for discussion is extremely new, and most people aren't aware of that.
Sounds as the size of 4chan increased it could actually house a discussion board for both genres

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>>1434178

>>1434178

> if you don't want hentai discussion on /a/, you need to make a sticky on /a/ redirecting hentai discussion to /h/ and leave it up for months.

/a/ is "anime & manga", not "anime, manga & hentai"
there's no need for sticky because you're trying to discuss NSFW content in a blue board, which is already covered by the rules of this site

>>1434246
Hentai is objectively anime and manga. Stop using words when you don't understand their meaning.

>>1434178
>/h/ used to only be for dumping, and that was an official rule
Wait what, when? That was never an official rule, just a mod being retarded. As retarded as allowing hentai discussion on /a/.

>>1434178
also they need to let /ss/ on /h/

>>1434255
And porn movies are movies, but you still can't talk about them on /tv/.

>>1434626
>>1434246
/tv/ has never been the center of discussion of porn movies on the site, much less for thirteen years. The porn boards have always been primarily image dumping boards, with only incidental discussion. Board culture is, and always has been, a valid argument.

Why do you fags even care anyways? None of you even use /a/.

>>1434637
So your only arguments is that they allowed NSFW-content on a yotsuba b board back then, so they should allow it now, because you are used to masturbate on a yotsuba b board? Because I can find plenty of discussion on /h/ right now and I for sure know that panda threads on /a/ were mostly link dumps and these /h/ threads on /a/ rarely have any kind of quality discussion. And board culture is not a valid argument. Go to /h/ to masturbate, can't be this hard.

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>>1434643
The fact that you can't differentiate between the incidental gelbooru-comment-esque "discussion" on /h/ and actual conversation between users informed on relevant topics on /a/ is evidence that you haven't spent a significant amount of time on either /a/ or /h/. The fact that you think sadpanda threads were mostly link dumps is proof. I'd tell you to lurk two years before posting but if you're too stupid to comprehend the distinction between a porn board for posting porn and a discussion board for discussing a class of things which includes porn you'll probably never be capable of understanding anyways.

Again, why do you care so much what other people do on boards you never use, ESL-kun? Nothing can be done about it anyhow because the site is run by the mods now, so until the one who has an irrational hatred for sadpanda quits or dies there's no bringing it back. I'm just curious as to why you people, who have no stake in the argument, are so concerned.

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>>1434662
>lurk two more years!
Yes, great argument. So you got nothing. You know your content is against the rules, so you resort to the lurk-more response.
>Nothing can be done about it anyhow
This is why you are here and made this thread, right?

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>>1434666
Again, if you knew what you were talking about you would know no rules were being violated, as the content uploaded to the site on /a/ was SFW. Discussion of porn is no less SFW than discussion of anything else.

>This is why you are here and made this thread, right?
So in addition to being stupid and barely-literate you're also too blind to see the IP counter. I'm sorry for making fun of you; that sort of life must be hard. No, I didn't make this thread. I just like hanging out on /qa/ and saw a familiar OP image.

>>1434670
Read the rules, it is nowhere said that discussion pf porn is not porn content or that it doesn't become worksafe because it's just a link. These are porn share threads and by nature not safe for work.

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>>1434674
The rules mean what they say and nothing more, bud. I'd expect someone with such a rudimentary understanding of English to be a bit more cautious in assuming implications, but I suppose that would be too much to expect from you, considering your other significant disabilities. NSFW is generally defined as visually pornographic or otherwise obscene content. Discussion of pornography is not explicit, and is never considered NSFW, even on sites that aren't 18+ like this one. These are established nigh-universal standards of online communications. And of course, nothing has changed on /a/; people still happily link to pornography and post images that, while not explicit depictions of sex, would still get anybody looking at them at work fired. Such posts never get deleted and nobody ever gets banned over them. It's just sadpanda threads specifically that are deleted.

Don't kid yourself. The state of the site has nothing to do with the rules. Moderation is almost completely subjective and has always been beholden to the fickle whims of the staff and/or moot. And now that moot quit hiro pretty much leaves everything to the staff, barring the occasional contrived moneymaking plan. It's just some fag trying to enforce his personal view of the way /a/ ought to be. It can't be helped.

>>1434703
>NSFW is generally defined as visually pornographic or otherwise obscene content
Give me that definition. I only care about what is stated in 4chans rules and it says content. Links are content. Dicussion is content. Fetish blogposting is content.
>people still happily link to pornography
On my behalf these posts can get deleted as well. In case of /a/: it doesn't make sense that some can post a cropped doujin pic, someone is a saucefag and someone spoonfeeds him, which is a really nice addition of having porn on /a/, and out of these three posts only the sauce-begging gets deleted. This is one thing I really dislike about having nsfw-content on a blue board, it leads to inconsistent and half-assed moderation.
>It's just sadpanda threads specifically that are deleted
That's not right, porn threads can get deleted.
>It's just some fag trying to enforce his personal view of the way /a/ ought to be
Like the minority that wants sadpanda threads on /a/, right?

>>1434637

"board culture" is just a cheap excuse made by "oldfags" for their rule breaking posts

I can use board culture to justify generals and a bunch of other cancer behavior on /a/ as well, doesn't mean they're acceptable

>Why do you fags even care anyways? None of you even use /a/.

anon please, spare us from your cheap insults

>>1434703

>people still happily link to pornography and post images that, while not explicit depictions of sex, would still get anybody looking at them at work fired

this should be bannable as well but I understand we don't have enough mods to deal with this

so many thinly veiled /h/ and /e/ threads on /a/ and actual anime/character discussion ruined by horny teens posting cropped porn/trying to ERP under the hood of "board culture" I'm glad at least we got rid of sadpanda threads

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>>1434713
See now you're just arguing against board culture and self-moderation. This is why you're supposed to lurk two years before posting. I did it, and see no reason why people like you refuse to even try to understand why people do the things they do before forming an uninformed opinion on them. Sadpanda threads were a service provided by a core part of the /a/ userbase who spend a lot of time cataloging manga and want to share with the rest of the board. They have always been appreciated by the ones who used them and nobody ever complained except normalfags and crossboarders like yourself who didn't appreciate their purpose. Nobody has to do anything on your behalf. They do it out of their own good will and expect that you have the decency to learn the ropes without begging them for more than they already go out of their way to give.

As for the definition of NSFW just look it up on Wikipedia or something. I don't really feel like doing my own research when the only payoff is some blind ESL tard (no offense) learning something he should already know from experience, and I recall that article is accurate enough. Your definitions don't matter to /a/'s established userbase, nor do they matter to the mods. They'll do as they please and we'll just complain a bit and continue doing what we do.

As this is /qa/, I'd be happy to answer any more questions you have, but I probably won't reply unless you post cute pictures. Pictures from Hitsugi no Chaika are preferred, since you brought it up.

>>1434752
Yeah, same as above to you mostly. Generals are not board culture on /a/ though, nor is ERP (not recently at least, and even back then there was a fine line). /h/ and /e/ are both primarily image dump boards, in the same way /c/ and /gif/ are, not discussion boards like /a/ and /qa/, and their own cultures and userbases reflect this. I wouldn't call myself an oldfag but I'd be happy to answer any questions that I can, provided you give me adequately cute motivation.

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>>1434765
>See now you're just arguing against board culture and self-moderation
>self-moderation
/a/ doesn't self-moderate anymore. I tried, but besides telling them to fuck off and go to /h/ if it may derail the thread, telling spoonfeeders to fuck off, which barely does anything, there isn't much anyone can do. When someone dumps porn somewhere it either gets deleted or stays and gets more attention than anything on-topic, because this is what porn does. Oh and I "self-moderated" threads to the point that they got deleted and myself banned. I spoke with the mods on rizon, which got myself banned there as well. So don't tell me I'm not doing anything.
>and want to share with the rest of the board
Cool, do it on /h/.

>As for the definition of NSFW just look it up on Wikipedia or something
You can't be serious. You never looked it up.
>Not suitable/safe for work or NSFW is an Internet slang or shorthand tag used in e-mail, videos, and on interactive discussion areas (such as Internet forums, blogs, or community websites) to mark URLs or hyperlinks which contain nudity, intense sexuality, profanity or disturbing content, which the viewer may not wish to be seen accessing in a public or formal setting such as in a workplace or school.
>URLs
>which contain nudity, intense sexuality
So the threads were not safe for work from the beginning. Good to know.

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you nerds actually want to discuss porn?

/a/ should be a NSFW board

>>1434820
It would just turn into another porn board. Well, more than it already is.

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>>1434813
Self-moderation does work, and it is still working, even if not to the same extent as it used to. The fact that folks like >>1434713 get butthurt about the abrasiveness of the board is evidence of this. There are a couple big other boards that I've been using for a long time and I can say for certain that the unwanted change in /a/ has been the slowest among all of them.

Yeah, I never said anything about URLs being SFW. The very sentence you quoted says that the NSFW tag marks things which "contain nudity, intense sexuality, profanity or disturbing content, which the viewer may not wish to be seen accessing in a public or formal setting such as in a workplace or school." Meaning if a board is designated SFW then the content on the board itself is to be considered SFW, not necessarily the content discussed or linked to. Read a bit further:
>Conversely, the term Safe For Work, sometimes abbreviated to SFW, is used to label material that may have a questionable title or include subjects that could be NSFW, but are not.
Remember, the whole site is 18+. Links to porn are almost never deleted unless it's illegal, wholly off-topic, or causing some other sort of major problem. And extremely lewd stuff that would be tagged questionable, or sometimes even explicit, on booru has always been fair game on blue boards, as long as there isn't any actual explicit sex or nude bits and the janitors on duty don't hate the fetishes or characters depicted. Derailment is not a problem. If people want to continue talking about something they will, and if they can't manage it in an unstable thread they either didn't have much to say in the first place, or are not suited to the image board format.

>>1434820
It's fine as it is. It's easier to civilly discuss porn when it's hosted somewhere else and isn't actively cluttering the conversation. This way people who just want a fap can follow the links and people who want to talk can talk.

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>>1434837
>There are a couple big other boards that I've been using for a long time and I can say for certain that the unwanted change in /a/ has been the slowest among all of them
Don't get me wrong, despite this and other issues I still think that /a/ is one of the best boards. Doesn't change the fact that I see much more acceptance, or let's say apathy, towards spoonfeeding when it's about porn.
>not necessarily the content discussed or linked to
It outright said "linked". And you harp on about "discussion" but we all know the primary purpose of a sadpanda thread was to dump a shit ton of exhentai links.
>Links to porn are almost never deleted
Can just be lazyness on the moderations side. Out of all places I see porn links getting deleted on /v/.
>Derailment is not a problem
Ahaha! I'm consciously altering the way I start threads there, because I don't want them to turn into /e/ and porn link dumps. Some topics you can't talk about without turning into hentai.

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>>1434863
>It outright said "linked". And you harp on about "discussion" but we all know the primary purpose of a sadpanda thread was to dump a shit ton of exhentai links
I wouldn't say that. While that might have been what a large portion of the posts were about, they were also generally the best place to discuss both doujin and published eromanga, as well as scanning and translation. People who kept up with scans and releases were the ones who kept up with sadpanda threads. And NSFW was originally used to tag links based on their content, making the acronym a content descriptor. The purpose of the acronym doesn't matter so much as its actual meaning, and while blue boards are tagged explicitly SFW, linked content is not actually on the board. It's the same principle behind torrent trackers being by themselves technically legal, as they do not actually host any infringing files. There is precedent as well, as no action was taken against the porn itself in the past, nor is it now. It's obvious that it was not porn that was banned, but only sadpanda threads.

It's kind of asinine to defend the threads like this ultimately. The fact is that /a/ is for discussion of anime and manga, and H-manga just just a kind of manga. Initial D and Bakuon threads are not deleted and told to go to /o/ nor are Strike Witches and garupan posters sent away to /k/. Similarly, porn is not, and never has been sent to /h/. It's sadpanda specifically, which is unfortunate because those were also the main eromanga threads, because some mod either doesn't know what he's doing or is on some dumb crusade against threads he doesn't like. In other words, business as usual.

If you have to alter the way you post to maintain quality that just means you have something decent to talk about, so it's likely that there are other people who do as well. That's good. Can't imagine what the topic is though, if most threads not made a certain way are devoid of interested conversation and become image dumps.

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>>1435067
That is honestly great and I can understand that some feel angry when the community they build gets deleted before their eyes. But there is really no excuse for not relocating thes community, since you are all still here, on a dedicated porn board. You have only yourself to blame, clicking on another board isn't hard. When less people go to these threads on /h/ this will only mean that the community was never this strong and relied upon casual /a/nons just strolling by to masturbate when they actually came to talk about anime and manga.

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>>1435159
Different boards are used by different people. The people who use /a/ regularly and the people who use /h/ regularly are not necessarily the same people.

Actually there used to be more overlap years ago before captchas and the stupidly-long post timers, since we used to be able to go there and dump doujins and stuff and then link to them on /a/. Was especially nice for stuff in the process of being translated like you still sometimes see with scanlators of non-H-manga on /a/. However it must be understood that there is no community on /h/. Like most of the porn boards except /d/, which is a special case, the vast majority of the users go there only incidentally, for fapping material and not discussion, so people who actually have enough knowledge to hold a conversation will not congregate. Such people will instead congregate on /a/, since H-manga is a subset of the topic. You are fundamentally misunderstanding the way discussion works. People don't generally seek it out unless they already have something to say, which is uncommon. They join it when they see it happening and decide they can contribute. And it's rare that people who can contribute will be on /h/ to even join the hollow shell of a "discussion" that is left there. There's a reason the once-vibrant threads are now so dead on /h/.

Either way, it's still a moot point. It's an on-topic service provided by /a/ for /a/ users, so it belongs on /a/. It's a simple as that. The moment this particular newfag/autistic crusader mod loses interest it will be back on /a/ because that's where the userbase is. There is no 'community" to be relocated. The userbase is just the general userbase of /a/. This is not a message board. It is an image board, where each board houses its own distinct community, and the fact that you don't understand that does not oblige the rest of us to not shit on your incorrect opinions when you're the one who should be adapting to us and not vice-versa. To reiterate, lurk more.

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White Chaika by same artist.

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Red Chaika is sped chaika. Blue Chaika is poo Chaika. White (Chaika) pride worldwide.