If you deport 11 million illegals who's going to pick up

A machine that does it for the price of a full tank of gas.

>>99333585
Where actual minimum wage jobs would go essentially

>>99333585
No, fieldhand wages would be 15 an hour because no one would do hard work for free if there were no illegals.

Probably some unemployed white person

50% of Black Youth is unemployed. I guess they can take illegals place

why don't we just grow crops in Mexico? Problem solved

>>99333585
>Implying we actually eat vegetables.

slaves

It's called seasonal labor, the Megacorps already do this. Pick up thousands of Mexicans, tell them they will earn five dollars a day, then they get to work in Alabama for a month.

These liberal talking points are so easily dismissed and pathetic. Can't wait for Gen Z to grow up and genocide my generation.

>>99333585

I grow my own. The only veg I buy is lettuces. I grow 5 different kind of bean! Also, I sell my tomatoes to a fancy restaurant.

>>99333585
Whites build machines.
We will be fine.
The niggers cant grow food.

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>>99333585
Salaries will increase as with the price of the end product until a labor equilibrium is reached.

>>99333743
neets are fucking stupid

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>>99333585
Naturally the white girls go in the wheat field's.

there's less than 800k farming labor jobs. Get lost. at least 10 million need to go.

>>99333743
/thread
Plus, if I was jobless and desperate I'd be willing to do it for minimun wage. Put in some headphones, pick some vegtables, sounds comfy desu.

>>99333585
White teenagers can do it.

Will instil a work ethic and stop SJWism taking over their idle brains.

>>99333585
Tax-paying workers.

>>99333585

Transients and felons, like before massive amounts of your countrymen came here. Menial labor jobs like ditch digger, construction labor and la landscaping also were almost exclusively taken by this former underclass.

Sounds like a big jobs growth to me.

>>99333585
Americans don't eat fruits and veggies dude.

>>99333585
Boo hoo, who will feed a bunch of starving niggers.

>>99333585
Replace Mexicans with Greeks, Italians and other europeans in crisis

Americans who would be more than happy to take these jobs now that corporations can't rely on paying illegal aliens 30 cents an hour off the books, so they'll have to pay their employee more respectable wages.
See how that works? No government mandated spike in income for welfare queens flipping burgers; no cucking out and letting our homeland be overrun with droves of smelly beaners.

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>>99333980
>this triggers the illegal spic

>if you deport the illegals you won't have any farmers, just like Zimbabwe
Wut?

>>99334342
/this
Bring more Slavs to America

By the market logic the less people are willing to do a job, they become more valuable(so they make more money).

Thats the reason the elites want a place overstaturated with people like China.

>>99334413
Ay cabron.
You need us ese!
We built dis kountry!
We wuz atzechs n mayans n shiiet!

>>99333585
teenagers and machinery

I don't eat vegetables

Checkmate, mexicans

>>99334597
It runs on batteries from China and solar power from the plants can't you see?

>>99333585
Neets.

Teenagers, then they'll grow up and appreciate hard work and not be cucked like millenials

>>99333585
I could always pick up a 2nd job.

>>99333877
Kek

>>99334726
MURRCA

>>99333585
import legals fron other fucked up places.
like france and sweden.

The millions of jobless Americans.

And, yes, prices would likely go up, but that's the market in action.

>>99333743
>machines took our jobs

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>>99333585
>Price of vegetables go up as labor prices go up
>Workers are paid more in the field
>Prices at market increase slightly
>The jobs are generally better than they were before because they're now on the books

Gee whiz.

>>99333585
>lose dozens of mexican strawberry pickers
>replace them with one white guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKT351pQHfI

>>99334991
I like this. All our workers would have accents. It would be like everyone has a butler.

>>99334413
DELETE THIS.

>>99333949
This. If you're smart about it you can grow a lot of food yourself with minimal effort and receive a higher quality product. It's also very rewarding to feed yourself and others directly from your own efforts.

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>>99335071
>they're now on the books

all the browns coming off no longer existant welfare

>>99333585
relax man. it's not going to happen. drumpf is just lying sob. but if he deports all mexican criminals and scum, that will be a good thing to do. specially for hard working mexicans in murica.

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Liberals have touted this 11 million number for at least a decade. you absolutely know it's closer to 20 and even 25 million by now.

>>99333585
>picks his own vegetables
>doesnt go to the store to buy them instead
this is why you are 3rd wordl

>>99333585
Wow, it's like there are no capable Americans to do farm work.

>>99334597
>We wuz atzechs n mayans n shiiet!
They really were though
Unfortunately their blood was diluted by moor genes, and they became mestizos.

>>99333585
Who picked the veggies before the 11 million illegals?

A heads up to all the Whites reading this post:
If you try to work at picking on a farm with migrant workers you won't finish the day without a knife being flashed in your face. They run you off because you are a threat to "their" job. don't believe me? Try it.

I will gladly pay more for produce to get rid of illegals. It would be my privilege.

>>99334054
they are underpaid, sleep with strangers in tents and work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week.

The moment you deport these illegals food prices gonna skyrocket

>>99333585
These people worn for $1 per hour so no one else can get hired. If they all get sent home all the citizens will take the work for $7.25.

A big reason libertarians love illegal immigration is because they hate minimum wage laws.

>>99333763
>when you realize libs really just want a slave caste and their entire argument for illegals is that those jobs will have to pay real wages if they leave

>Companies can't pay people who don't officially live here tiny salaries
>Have to offer actual salaries to legal citizens
>Suddenly the number of people who are willing to work that job skyrockets
Gee that was fucking difficult

>>99335172
Ugugugu i would be your butler.

>>99335476
Most Mexicans are not Mestizos though
We are full native

>>99333585
Following his latest statements, they will be focusing on criminal illegals. It wouldn't surprise me that hard working illegals whom have never had a runin with police could apply to start a procedure to obtain a legal migration status.

>>99335476
all mayans died without execption.
their roots ended.

>>99335760

LOL

Just because you feature the whitest people in Mexico on your TV doesn't mean you're white, it means other Mexicans are fucking ugly.

>>99335491
>Who picked the veggies before the 11 million illegals?
healthy, non-fat extinct americans.

admit it, you are lazy as fuck. that's why you imported gorillion gorillas from africa just to do your work. now those apes are breed like rabbits, got themselfs gunz and turning against you. what are you going to do? karma is a bitch.

>>99333585
so, your argument is that we need slaves for the health of the country?

>>99335760
Whatever you say, pedro
>>99335955
Bullshit
They're few and far between, but some still exist

>>99333585
I applied for a food picker job in Yuma az I will literally work any job but they rather hire a Mexican .

>>99335979
Go fuck yourself dumb American

>>99333763
>hard work
>picking up vegetables off the ground

Jesus its almost like you live in mommy's basement and have never had an actual job....

Get blacks to do it, picking fruit isn't too different from picking cotton

>>99335979
Woe that was rude. Who hurt you? Was it the bad jew?

>But food prices will skyrocket!!

Implying that some how, some way employing 11,000,000 Americans at minimum wage (who are currently unemployed) doesn't somehow add in an additional $79,750,000 that they're going to use to buy shit that will put money in every last sector of the economy except maybe Veblen goods.

Seriously guys the economy is a bit more complex than your Econ 101 class. Changing one thing impacts a lot more than just one thing.

>>99335476
Pretty much. At this point we are not even "Mestizos" any more.

>>99336183

I tried really hard to get a job in harvesting Christmas trees in NC a few years ago and was told to fuck off essentially.

>>99335858
That's how retarded things got here while the Communists were in power.

It didn't used to be that you had to scream that everybody was a racist and confuse immigration with illegals. But that's what the dry twats who get indoctrinated in Jewish Communist training camps to put them into life debt think.

NEEt here. I'll be glad to. Only reason I can't get a job is too many Mexicans. I'm not a careerist, I just want some seasonal agricultural work I can just go and do without having to comete, cause white men can't compete

>>99334726
>>99333877
>Implying we actually eat vegetables.
What are you going to do when there are no undocumented immigrants to pick your pizzas from the pizza plants?

>>99336070
They're Catholics.
Nobody imported them. They are an infestation.

Something I don't get.

>people want to keep illegal immigrants in this country because breaking up a family is sad

So we are going to completely let it slide the fact that they didn't obey the law, willingly brought their family here, managed to have a child in the united states or by some fucking twist have a child with US citizenship, and we should feel bad because they brought this upon their own family when they have to face the consequences of their actions?

Not only that, we let people deflate the value of work. How is it a crew of illegals will earn less money building houses and having a skilled trade but it's okay that a manager at a fucking fast food restaurant will earn more.

>>99336352
It's going to be quite difficult at first.

>>99336430
why are you lying?

>>99336070
Youth unemployment enables obesity. No more illegal migration, no more youth unemployment.

Would be good for kids to pick these jobs up again.
>don't want to do this job for the rest of your life?
>good. Work hard in school or you'll be coming back.

>>99333585

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE PICKING FRUIT IF YOU PAID THEM A REAL WAGE.

>>99333743
Yep.

That's the way it was planned.

Just like the Civil War was supposed to ship the blacks to Africa after the cotton gin made slavery obsolete. The war was also used to destory the wealth of Southern plantation owners.

Everything is done for the economic interest of a few fat cats.

>>99336546
the point is that whites employed illegals and now they want to kick them out. you're fucked!

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>>99333585
We would just pay actual Americans approximately minimum wage. The productivity would be higher to offset the cost.

Despite what you may think American works have much higher productivity then you low IQ spics.

>>99333763
>no one would do hard work for free if there were no illegals.

Are you under the impression that illegals are slaves or something?

They're cheap labor, because they work untaxed, paid under the table in cash, get less than minimum wage, and can't make workman's comp claims or anything. But they're not free.

>>99333585

Oy vey goyim, 11 million illegals are all picking fruit! Only illegal immigrants could possibly pick fruit, it's just such a difficult, skilled job! Let's totally forget about all the non-illegals who used to pick fruit in America, Europe, and Australia before the flood of third worlders.

>>99333585
robots

>>99333585
Obama deported more illegals than any other President.

Does anyone still remember ANY of Trump's promises and plans? Anyone?

No, of course not. He was a meme candidate in a failed election. He will do whatever Pence and his crew tell him to do and we will still have foreign wars and no health care ... you know, the things he promised to fix.

This is what you get for dumping Bernie.

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>>99333585

>>99336296

This.
The intellige t thing to do, to spur the economy in favor of hiring citizens, would be to remove the federal taxes and deductions and costs to the employers for agriculture workers.
Basically, 7.25 an hour minus state.

>>99336614
so you're saying like if we didn't have locusts of immigrations and Jewish Bankers instead of no tariffs then it might be economical to pay our own to do our own shit?

wow, what a concept. It only takes top Jewish lawyers to argue that one down.

>>99335979
That was a bit rude burger.

>>99333585
robots

>>99336270

rofl man you're fucking retarded, The mexicans pick fucking baskets full of tomatoes in an hr.

I can tell you don't live near farms and have never even been on one.

There is nothing wrong with having seasonal workers that go back once the job is done.

We have tons of outdated farm equipment that's eating up welfare and maintenance. I think we can make use of them.

>>99333585
>If you deport 11 million illegals who's going to pick up all your vegetables?

Machines. Duh.

>>99336681
>reducing unemployment
>reduce corrupt business paying people under the table
>generating more tax revenue
>generating more people with more disposable income that doesn't just come from wellfare handouts

Are you tired of the winning? Is that what this is?

Offer the homeless a free room and food and have them pick the veggies.

Make it voluntary work so it can't be classified as slavery

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what if we just offer all legal residents basic income?

https://youtu.be/NMYpaY7KKm4

>>99336816
>Obama deported more illegals than any other President

nice meme

>>99336816
Bernie fags are still out of touch with realty

>>99335649
Backwards. I hate illegal immigrants because they drive down the value of labor and force us to make minimum wage laws.

>>99337024
They are probably more efficient in the US than here in México, I kinda feel cucked. But that's what surviving means.

Does America have enough money to pay the new workers minimum wage?

>>99333978
People are not going to pay more just because a white person is doing it.

>>99333585
>You will have a food crisis, just like Zimbabwe

I'm self sufficient for food. Not worried in the least.

That said within a decade or two, at the rate automation and robotics technology is progressing we will need very little unskilled labor at all for anything.

>>99335580

Labor costs are only about 5 percent of food production costs. Fair wages would barely be noticed at the grocery store.

>>99333585
That's not how this works...

>>99333585
Robots and teenagers

>>99333585
White people will easily like we have for 100's of years without your help. And we'll develop robots with our higher IQ's faster without your (((help)))

>>99337468
If you as a libertarian doesn't support open borders then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you should head over to Reason.com and see all the other libertarians post nonstop love for open borders and free trade with countries that undercut our labor market.

>>99337457
>>calls others out of touch
>>cant handle radical and innovative policy like Basic income

>>99333585
...White people who can do the job better who dont have jobs you fucking spic
sage sage sage

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>>99337684
>>99337768
>pay

Yes, yes, goyim. Don't be able to provide for yourself.

You need us, goyim!

>>99333585
So from the liberal point of view we should keep illegals and basically use them as slave labor? So that hatred libs show for slavery is only there when it doesnt benifit them?

>>99333585
Good thing Trump isn't deporting 11 million illegals dumbass

>>99337430
it's funny because it's true

>>99333585
>strawberries
>vegetables
wew

>>99333585

We'll deal with that when the time comes.

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>>99337768
No. They will pay more because the prices increased due to a labor shortage. Salaries will also increase in time to make up for the labor shortcoming. This is the so called "invisible-hand"

Economics is an easy and vital subject to study my friend.

11 million less people mean less resources retard

>>99338096
I'm not saying that, retard. A good amount of Mexicans in the US are working for well under minimum wage, I just hope Americans and american companies can pay those new salaries.

>>99338007
>Free shit grin the government is innovative
Thank you for proving my point

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>>99338096
Guys stop fighting all we need is UBI and we can live in a future utopia

https://youtu.be/bj1aGJeZKIo

>>99333585
>You will have a food crisis

Wouldn't that be a good thing actually?

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>>99338276
I don't care.

Mexico for Mexicans. US for us.

>>99336296

>Le Economy is only thing that matters meme.

I don't want spic gangs in my neighborhood.

>>99338614
Nice discussion, retard.

>>99338648

That's why you deport them.

Legal residents of Hispanic origin aren't going anywhere.

The ones who haven't committed any crimes besides being illegal should get to stay if they pay any backtaxes they owe and can pass an English proficiency test.

The ones with STEM degrees should be given a chance too.

>>99333585
People paid with a decent salary instead of slave labor. You like you people being treated like a subclass, you fucking racist?

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Have you seen what replaced the darkies? It's GPS guided and replacing the white man

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>>99338239
no, they won't, because the price will absolutely skyrocket and nobody will be able to afford vegetables, especially poorer people (who honestly can't really afford them now anyway)

>>99337430

Except it's true.

Plus all the ones that self deported during the housing crash and shitty economy.

>>99338940

Damn

That thing looks fucking badass

>>99336816
He started counting people caught crossing as "deportations."

>>99333585
>>99333585

this is what we've been storing all our fat up for, beaner

>>99335071
>increase slightly

how would a wage increase of literally double what it was before cause prices to only increase "slightly"

>>99333585
The zimnog field hands ran off the white farmers. The zimnogs now beg the farmers to come back so that the zimnogs can once again pick the white farmers crops.

Completelely different from us white farmer/spic picker situation.

>>99338848
>The ones who haven't committed any crimes besides being illegal should get to stay

Cuck.

>>99339149
Because you're already paying a couple of bucks per tomato

They probably currently spend more shipping the damn things all over the world than they do on the workers right now.

>>99339134
Well getting sent back to your country when you crossed illegally IS considered a deportation...

What's the issue here?

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>Trump deports spics
>Low-skill jobs readily available
>Americans wont pick fruit for 12 cents an hour because theyre not retarded wetbacks
>low-skill job employers forced to raise wages
>more white people working, less beaners around
literally win/win

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>>99338941
Yes, they will. If no one can afford veggies and the price skyrockets you will only trigger more people trying to enter the market because the potential for profit is greater. Eventually you will see technological improvements that brings the cost down even in the face of lack of manpower.

Pick up a book kid.

>>99338754
Nice country, retard. I guess that's why everybody wants to immigrate to Mexico.

Oy vey!

>>99333585
I almost raged, then I laughed because trolling is awesome.

>>99338544
>not understanding what automation will do to menial jobs
>not even thinking slightly into the future when will live in a post-scarcity world

typical alt-righter

>>99333585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCBQqEGp8Go

>>99338137

It's not true. Obama admin redefined what counts as deportation to include people stopped as they were crossing the border.

Previous admins never considered this as deportation.

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>>99339439
so this is the power.... of... american eduction... wow....

>>99333585
The 5.5m that are gonna hop back over the border the next night.

>>99339525
>post scarcity prior to singularity and cheap spaceflight
We're not even transhuman yet

>>99339383
>Eventually you will see technological improvements that brings the cost down even in the face of lack of manpower.

>muh free market
this is what conservatives actually believe

>>99339310
>What's the issue with redefining words and bending reality to suit the interests of the leftist negro god-king?

Gee, I can't imagine.

>>99339688
This

>>99339699
No, most of our education has to do with how brilliant Mexico is.

>>99339898
What the fuck are you even talking about, burger?

>>99339744
either way, automation will eliminate literally half of jobs that exist today, especially menial ones (the ones that poorer people usually have).

how do you plan to handle this mass influx of people with absolutely no way to make money without some form of government subsidies?

oh wait yeah i'm sure the free market will somehow handle it. go fucking jack off to a picture of reagan

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>>99339744
Did someone say spaceflight?
https://youtu.be/SCzRTYPaN9M

>>99339310

That no net increase in illegals removed from the country actually happened. Just semantics.

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>>99339149
Because a worker in this would produce much more than 1 good per hour while the product still has to be competitive with those who didn't have illegal labor at all.

The cost of the increased wages will be spread out as much as possible to avoid hostile market reactions.

>>99339335
OMG WHAT SORCERY IS THIS
SPEAK ENGLISH YOU CRAZY PERSON
I HAVE A DEGREE IN SOCIAL STUDIES
HUMANITIES AND ARTS AND YOUR PICTURE
IS RACIST AND SEXIST AND HOMOPHOBIC

EVERYONE BOYCOT THIS PERSON AND UNFRIEND THEM ON FACE BOOK

NO PLATFORM
SILENCE THE DISCORD

>>99333949
What's your growing setup like?

>>99339960
I'm talking about how crazy the Jew media is here.

As for going to Mexico, I have a lot of different stories. Seems like a good place if you know what you're doing and you like the climate.

>>99336362
oh fuq

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>>99339335
Ive been saying we need a fucking basic income already

Send the illegals back, the ones we need can come back to our country LEGALLY through the big beautiful door in the wall and continue to contribute to our glorious country THE RIGHT WAY.

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>>99339762
Yeah, conservatives base their ideology on things that actually happened.

Keep trying that socialism thing though, if it fails enough times eventually it will work right?

>>99334054
I'm from rural WA, I've done all of it, It's not as hard as these spics and cucks make it out to be. The only thing that sucks is the wage, but as long as you aren't terrible and picking something, it's doable. Spics drive the wage down for it anyway.

>>99333585
>deport all illegals
>suddenly farming becomes more efficient and safe as standards and pay are enforced while corruption and bad practice is stamped out
Whats the catch?

>>99333585
American citizens. Fuck off Diego.

>>99340268
If you don't want them in your country, you shouldn't go to theirs either.

>>99339335
forgot my vid
https://youtu.be/Pkv29kNIIG4

>>99340268
What does that have to do with America having or not having enough money to pay the new workers that will place the Mexican ones the minimal wage?

i would gladly work in the fields all day, but because there are so many illegal sub humans invading the states, wages are next to nothing, no self respecting civilized human will work that hard and for that long for less than $5 an hour

>>99340342
when automation takes your job you won't be so smug

>>99340015
Believe it or not I agree with the concept, however you cross that budge when you come to it. Mechanized industry will drive down costs anyway, so we won't need as much.

>>99333585

Rural whites. They are poor and hard workers. I grew up on a farm, I was poor and I worked hard for little pay. Many others have and will continue to do so.

>>99335580
This simply is not true. These jobs are 7 days a week during the season, but they usually only work 6 hours or so. This is why you don't get an hour wage, it's per bin/box depending on what you're picking.

>>99333585
>food crisis
wheat is objectively more important than fruit

>>99335979
Can this mother fucker not read?

American education, you can't beat it.

>>99340524
Automation is already in motion
https://youtu.be/mkuV1XIrNfk

>>99333585
Machines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Es-PRMAg0

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>>99340524
Nah.

As labor jobs cease to exist new service/people skills jobs open.

>>99333585
Either machinery will replace them, or farmers will finally pay a proper fucking wage for people willing to live in the middle of nowhere and do manual labor.

>>99340393
10 cents more a tomato

>>99336362
Wtf I love illegals now

>>99334413
Fug, I wouldn't mind operating that.

>>99340549
>you cross that budge when you come to it.
we should probably think about it now, especially since when it happens it will be sudden, and people will not be happy when they have no food

>Mechanized industry will drive down costs
when you have no job at all it doesn't matter if the food is a bit cheaper

>>99340345

I think a lot of non spics are intimidated from taking those jobs anyways.

Threatened even.

>>99340779
>As labor jobs cease to exist new service/people skills jobs open.
like what?

>>99340497
The Jew media and education system puts Americans into a mental position where they can't understand laws or any outcome. Therefore they can't understand how we can have labor without globalism because they can't think.

They don't even like Mexico or anybody else. That's going to be increasingly the funniest part, just like this Hillary campaign.

>>99333585
>Implying a lack of labor won't cause an increase in wages/benefits for legal Americans

KYS Pablo

>>99340779
To say it will be at the same rate is ridiculous. Also skilled and semi-skilled jobs are more likely to appear, replacing unskilled jobs. I'm not affected but millions of American workers (those that are left) will be. I'm all for the march of technology but we need to find a way to accommodate the quick changes in the economy. One way to do this is by not importing more and more unskilled labor. It'll only make things worse long term

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>>99341085
What the fuck are you talking about

we are talking wages

W A G E S
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>>99340524

Robotic basement dweller?

>>99340524
Someone's still gotta put the robots together

>>99340889
Like I said, I agree with the concept.

So long as it's just a reasonable stipend or check, and you get nothing else. So if you waste it all on weed and Doritos you're fucked for a week.

>>99333845

You don't know much about america if you think our black youth are going to go to a farm and pick shit up off the ground.

>>99333585
Good. Maybe niggers and spics would stop breeding like rats if they didn't have enough food.

>>99336362
import illegal italians

>>99341255
I'm talking about wages, numbskull.

What the fuck are you talking about? Explain it to me like I have a typical 70 IQ like politicians and average people.

>>99341340

Robots can do that now.

>>99340470
We have this
The new problem is no one wants to raise it with inflation and zero hours contracts + (((self))) employment so you basically have state funded poverty with employers exploiting every loophole to pay less

>>99341340
nah, robots will do that as well. AI is only getting better and better

>>99341355
okay. most people on here though oppose any and all forms of government programs or assistance (which is ironic because they are supported entirely by their parents)

>>99333585
Polacks will do it instead of derkas.

>>99340975
I hate working with them, they go faster and will pull dirty shit to fuck you over. Plus side is if you're not picking directly, maybe moving bins and boxes, they think you're a boss. Other than that, there's nothing to be intimidated by. Its easy. They call it low skilled labor for a reason. Unless you're saying it's a status thing.

>>99341029
Hard to say. I know this sounds dubious but keep in my during the 1960s no one predicted that something like the internet would impact the economy like it has, but today it's not unheard of for people to make their entire fortunes off of it.

>>99341209
I agree, there will be a hard transitioning period where those with skills that are no longer marketable will have trouble finding work. I hope out country implements benefits or something to aid the transition.

>>99341412
They'll do it if they're cut off Uncle Sam's teat & have no other way to get gibsmedats.

>Starve & live in a cardboard box

>Pick cucumbers

Choose one.

>>99341432

Africa says otherwise.

>>99335476

You just shit on all of Spain and Portugal.

There will be absolutely no problem with labor, people worked for far lass than the equivalent of minimum wage in the past under far worse conditions because low skill workers were and are totally expendable and interchangeable. That fact hasn't changed, is the reason we have unions, and is also the reason why these farms want to employ undocumented workers seeing as how illegals can unionize.

Not to mention the manner in which the over abundant work force has been holding back innovation and efficiency in the agricultural field. Higher wages will force producers to invest in more cost and resource effective farming practices to mantain their profits not only benefiting the economy by in tax revenue and disposable income after the market takes an initial short term hit before stabalizing but will also benefit the planet as a whole and help curtail the rapid depletion of the western part of the countries aquifers.

TL:DR Illegals go and food gets a bit more expensive for a little while but we gain tax revenue, illegals stay and the aquifers dry up causing famine and death.

>>99333585
The rednecks?

>>99341653
>Hard to say. I know this sounds dubious
I'm just saying don't count on it. There should be a plan in place to handle it when it happens

also honestly i'm excited for automation. it's absolutely ridiculous that people should be forced to do jobs machines can do just so that they don't starve. it's literally wage slavery

>>99341621

Meant that they don't want non spics taking their jerbs and threaten people to quit.

>>99341599
>nah, robots will do that as well.
And someone will have to assemble those robots too

>AI is only getting better and better
And someone has to program that computer

>>99341412
>Trump stops all welfare to niggers
>>shieeeeeet, now I will have to work on da whiteys farms just like my ancestors did

>>99341540
>once you deport the immigrants, how are you going to pay the new employees that cannot work for less than minimum wage?
>the american workers don't understand labor without capitalism because the Jew media
>yes but how is america going to pay those jobs
>the jew media puts us in a mental position where we don't understand laws

Anon please, you explain yourself, I'm not following.

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>>99333585
/pol/ is full of neets and lazy people so they'll be put to work

>>99333585
Good, now let the local teenagers do it like they're supposed to instead of growing into sheltered faggots.

>>99335760
You are brown, about 5'4", fat and have a moustache.

How close am I?

>>99341659

You are crazy as a nigger if you think we're cutting off niggers.

>>99341670
And that's why they have the highest child mortality rates in the world. It balances out. In a few decades, countries like Nigeria with insane birthrates will collapse due to A: Mass famine or B: Epidemics.

>>99336820
Automation is so awesome
Fuck the poor unskilled dregs

>>99342066
okay you're just not understanding the idea of intelligent AI.

they will be so intelligent that they will create programs that can design machines. they will surpass us in intelligence

>>99333585
Jews and Muslims.

>>99333743
fpbp

>>99333743
not every fruit and vegetable is able to be harvested by machine

>>99342134
t. unemployed NEET

>>99342445
I'm a welder m8

well, first of all there would be 11,000,000 less mouths to feed... and 2nd... americans would pick them?

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>>99341981
>forced to do jobs machines can do just so that they don't starve. it's literally wage slavery

You deport 11 illegal immgirand ant 11 million American will get a job

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>>99342544
my fucking nigger

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>>99342096

underrated

>>99333585
robots.

>>99333585

lol

trump's just gonna deport the unemployed illegals

Crackheads and routine low-offense criminals.

>>99342392
yet*

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>>99342601
>>99342544

>>99342241
>they will surpass us in intelligence
I don't think you know how fucking programming works.

Computers can think FASTER than us sure but they can't do anything that humans don't program them to do. They could eventually design a decent machine through trial-and-error genetic algorithms? Yeah sure, but someone's still gonna need to at the very least shit out the parts to make it. I don't think you even realize how machinery used in mass production works.

>>99342121
I am an engineering student

>>99342254
>oy vey, this is goyims work!

>>99333585
Do you realize that many of the fieldhands are here due to a US government program?

They're supposed to go back at the end of the season. If they stay however, they become illegals and need to be deported.

>>99336668
> food being cheaper for everyone is only good for rich people

>>99333585
Americans who love the outdoors you stupid mook

>>99342544
you're an idiot honestly.

>PPL SHOULD DO SHIT MENIAL JOBS THAT CAN BE DONE WITH ROBOTS JUST BECUZ!!

retarded


>>99342829
>they can't do anything that humans don't program them to do.
read a fucking book retard, they can nowadays

>>99340470
This is left commie bullshit and it would never work.

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>>99333585
all the gender studies majors

>>99342392
If it can be harvested by an organic machine, it can be harvested by an inorganic machine

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>>99342707
I should have put an image on that post.

>>99343066
There are top of the line robots at the shop I work at and they're actually mediocre at the one thing they can do and can't do anything else.
How about you stop reading books and go experience what real life is like

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>>99343386
Time for you to be upgradings my friend.

>>99338941
lol salaries are like 5% cost of the final product.
most of the cost comes from logistics.

>>99343367
>There are top of the line robots at the shop I work at
lmao holy shit.

dude honestly there's a ton of information online, trying googling shit for once. i'm not talking about fucking robots at the shitty shop you work at, i'm talking about neural nets and all of these new AI algorithms that can learn and get better at things.

things are moving faster technologically than any of us are ready for

>>99343628
>i'm talking about neural nets and all of these new AI algorithms that can learn and get better at things.
Oh so the ones that won't be implemented at 99% of the factories for generations, got it.

>>99343565
>>99343565
>salaries are like 5% cost of the final product.
[citation needed]

>>99343791
yes exactly. i'm talking about the future not the present

>>99343206
This. Let'em be useful after all.

>>99342241

>AI will surpass us in intelligence

nice meme

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>>99343206
200 kg feminazis can't perform such work. Their biology tells them to give birth to kids but that won't happen unless we rape them.

>>99343899
Funny since you used present tense in >>99343066

>>99342588
American at work.
>work 9-5
>two hours lunch break
>need AC/heater
>never work for minimum wage even if not qualified
>Saturday Sunday off
>need full medical insurance
>half if the work day talk about football and food
>holidays off
>need raise every three months
>paid overtime or I'll sue you
>work close to mcdonald's
>call in sick twice a month
>muh work place safety
>fat

Get the idea?

>>99343971
literally come up with one reason why they wouldn't

>>99344000
my statement is still true. there are ones nowadays that can do things humans don't program them to do. they're not being used for practical things yet, and they're still in their infancy, but they still are learning by themselves

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>>99333585
>implying anyone here eats vegetables

>>99343565
I've heard that salaries is between 60-90% of the expenses of most companies.

>>99344040
I understand, but you should let poor slavs do this kind of work instead of illegal spics.

>>99344298
wasnt pizza rated as a "vegatable" on your k12 school menus because it contains tomatoes ?

>>99344294

>it's inevitable

Not one computer scientist has shown an algorithm capable of outcompeting the human mind at harnessing physical resources, or of doing design work on such. There's no compelling reason to think it's actually even possible, it's meme pop science.

>>99344663
Most Slavs do uber now.

>>99333585
>If you deport 11 million illegals who's going to pick up all your vegetables?

You can start with the 7 million plus unemployed Americans...y'know the ones with college degrees that aren't worth the paper they are printed on.

>>99344814
>There's no compelling reason to think it's actually even possible

>increasing trend of ai-assisted microcontroller and microprocessor design since the late 90s

>ever increasing trend of ai-assisted flying and driving. anything form of ai-based micromanaging of aerodynamic aspects on race cars while driving them has been banned

>manufacturing has been largely automated even before 3d printers and sintering became a thing

yeah no compelling reason to believe fully independent AIs will ever pop up

>>99344814
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

>>99335580
The only reason they work so much is because they are paid by what they pick. They choose to work such long hours because their work is seasonal and they are making the most of it while it lasts.

>>99345589
you want to put educated, intelligent american workers to work picking vegetables in a field? what the fuck?

>>99345737
education can vary in quality...

Companies would have to raise wages to American standards or could hire legal seasonal workers on legal seasonal work visas, like we already have.

Deporting illegals wouldn't remove fruit pickers, it would just force companies to stop cutting corners on labour.

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Solution:
>Agricorps file some sort of field-worker Visa for each positiont hey need
>Citizens get first pick.
>Any position that needs filling, just do a background check and let a spic get the visa
>Does work, gets paid, is no longer undocumented
>Field workers happy to have jobs, people happy to have cheap food
>Workers who really impress their bosses with work ethic, language and soul can be sponsored to path to citizenship
>Fieldworkers get bonus points if they out illegals, drop tips on cartel activities, tell authorities about drugs

Only issue would be stopping the money being sent to relatives back in central America, maybe an 80% tax on that

>>99345856
so? nobody should have to do menial backbreaking labor anyways when there are machines that can do it now

>>99333585
Legal Mexicans. You're obviously a proxy kike or else you would know that we farmers import Mexicans legally on work visas to pick our strawberries. And we pay them per basket. They get paid quite well if they're good.

>>99345618

There's compelling reason, yet, to believe that an AI can solve problems in a very general way better than humans. You are talking about very specific applications with specific sensors made for a specific purpose. The programs running on them are told what to "remember" or "learn" via code. General abstraction and design to exploit any and all of nature's properties that we can is a very different thing.

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>>99334413
>>99333845
>this triggers the illegal spic
>50% of Black Youth is unemployed.
Well yeah. The problem is Blacks were automated economically out of existence thanks to the cotton gin and mechanical cotton picker, invented just after slavery was ended.

If specialized mechanical vegetable pickers were required in large quantities due to no more illegal economic migrants then the prices of those mechanical vegetable pickers would go down thanks to competition of a large and new market. It happened with the cotton gin and the mechanical cotton picker over a century ago, it'll happen again with vegetable pickers.

>>99340779
Except robots and automation are replacing service sector jobs as well. Food service, cashiers, sales, even many legal services and news reporting jobs have been automated.

>>99334054
I used to pick strawberry/tomatoes with my grandpa, its kinda relaxing if you're wearing good sun protection.

>>99342392
We already have machines that not only prepares the ground, it plants, waters and harvests a multitude of crops withabout a 98% pickup rate. It is also completely driverless and uses gps to plot its routes.

>>99346056
There are quite a few crops, usually high value crops at that, that cannot currently be picked by machines without damaging them so much that they become unsalable to consumers.

>>99333585
The legal ones. The whites and blacks out of work. Automation.

You're still paying for the fucking wall, Paco.

>>99345634

more memes

protip: Stephen Hawking and Neil DeGrasse Tyson don't actually know the answer to everything. Sometimes, they make shit up to sell a book.

>>99346859
okay. my point stands

>>99333585
automation

>>99346919
yeah dude all science is a meme made up to sell books (because they're always bestsellers right)

just wait until it happens

Are you saying Mexicans aren't doctors and are only good at picking vegetables?

>>99347055

I'm a physics researcher, so I hope I've earned my skepticism on this.

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>>99333585
>If you deport 11 million illegals who's going to pick up all your vegetables?
Millennials

>inb4 too lazy
You fuckers will get to work when the master says so or you will be the first to starve. Deal with it.

>>99333763
I think this is the biggest point.
>>99333845
This is always brought up by conservatives and then libtards always andwer with
>>99341412
But really thats a big misrepresentation of the situation. You can't find americans to fill those shitty jobs for less than minimum wage because there are so many immigrants willing to take their place and they can make more money easier by working at McDonalds. If he manages to kick illegals out of the country, all farms will have to raise their wages until they can find americans willing to do their jobs. The result is probably going to be some inflation which is actually a good thing. Basically by kicking out illegals trump is solving two problems at the same time: chronically low inflation and unemployment for poor unskilled americans.

>>99347338
>I'm a physics researcher, so I hope I've earned my skepticism on this.
i'm sure you are bud

>>99333743
> which is why farmers still hire mexicans instead of just buying that machine

checkmate fagget

>>99340524
when automation takes your shilling job you won't be so smug

>>99333585

Fuck! You mexican guys really know how to get under their skin lool

>>99333585
Poor people who need jobs and didn't commit a crime to get there.

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>>99333585
>If you abolish slavery who will pick the cotton

>>99347941
/thread

>>99344683
and ketchup too

>>99333585
I want this job. Please give it to me.

>>99344683
That was one school district because a senator wanted tomatoes to get vegetable subsidy benefits.

It's as true to say "all k12 school menus" as it would be to say that one mexican is a rapist, therefore all mexicans are rapists.