Slavia | Slavic Union

>>95079557
Slavia? You mean Russia, right?

>>95079557
pretty sure this already happened, US tore down the walls after a couple decades...

>>95079557

Are you admitting u are not Macedonia?

>>95079557
>no Tsargrad

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I like the flag.

Also this song consisting slavs from every country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKxN7jEwsvU

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>>95079741
Why would I not be Macedonia?

We gave the Slavs the Cyrillic Alphabet.

We started all that Slavic shit.

So it's basically Russia plus poland, ukraine and Belarus and other assorted shitty countries... Idk m8, other than slav manpower they don't have anything else going.

>>95079881
Better take Romania's coast to connect Yugoslavia to the rest of Slavia.
Speaking of greater Yugoslavia, taking all Italian lands East of the Isonzo, and take Greek Macedonia as well.

>>95080350
>Greek Macedonia
No such thing buraz.

You mean Aegean Macedonia, which is occupied by the orthodox turks.

>>95080187
Slavic education is on average better than western, given that western education is watered down easy crap.
Besides, Slavs propelled the space race and make countless inventions.

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>>95080096
>Why would I not be Macedonia?
>We gave the Slavs the Cyrillic Alphabet.
>We started all that Slavic shit.

>>95080511
Well, I meant the part of Macedonia inside Greece, so we speak of the same thing.

Best solution: give all islands to Turkey, take all of Macedon for Slavia and give Ephyrus to Albania to resettle the Kosovo and Macedonian Shqiptars, so no Albos live in Slavia.

>>95079557
It's impossible because Russians are not effectively Slavs. They were not ruled by Slavs and had no problem to ally with non-Slavs to fight against Slavs. Slavdom is very divided, like Germanics

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>>95080695
I like it.

>>95080542
If by slavs you mean Wernehr von Braun and the second world war you're correct.

>>95081051
We can exclude the Russians. But, who'll bring the nukes to the party? As far as I know, no other slavic country has nukes.

>>95079557
FYROM is less Slavic than Romania or Moldova. Turn them red please.

>>95081051
They are more Slavic than Bulgaria, Slovenia or FYROM.

>>95081051
But the Germans put their fighting aside and formed Germany...
Technically, Prussians are originally a mix of balto-slavic and germanic people, not pure Germans
Besides, wasn't Poland ruled by a few foreign houses too? Franco-magyars, Germans, Swedes and Lithuanians if I recall right.

Most countries who had the misfortune to be a monarchy were ruled by foreigners. Sweden even today is ruled by French.

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>>95080096

Not at all fucked. USSR was bigger and still fell.

>>95081720
It fell because of a drunk domestic traitor and because of privatization.

>>95080542
>Slavic education is on average better than western,

Haha. This one is pretty deluded

>>95081720
>USSR
There. You said it yourself. I am not talking about USSR. USSR sucked balls.
>>95081392
You Roma people have some beef with Macedonia or what?

>>95081944
The most common thing here: some average or subpar student going outside and becoming an excellent student there.

Fucking hell, we use Italian exam problems as warm up...

Oh and Lomonosov is Europe's best uni in terms of useful fields.

>>95081431
But Poland and Czechia (don't know about southern Slavs) had their own slavic dynasties. Not to mention that foreign houses in Poland-Lithuania were in reality controlled by the parliament

>>95081944
This is true, children are usually enslaved in their school years, learning school subjects is a toil and most of them "hunt" good grades in order to seek self or family validation. Only few know how to shun the system and pick the good information.

>>95082220
I do not bear any grudge, and I don't think thou art the one who hath the right to call me a gypsy, in terms of whiteness, we outclass ye.

>>95082426
Yet you call yourself and your contry after the Gipsies.

UK and France would be fine. Doesnt matter how fucking big you are if you have nukes.

Its like the Ukraine was one big glorious example of getting rid of your nukes. Russia would never of dared to annex Crimea in fear of such a retaliation

>>95082658
It is the other way round, this is a low level bait.

>>95079557
Why isn't Austria part of that union?

They are overrun with Slavscum.

>>95082409
>>95082426

Wow. Just wow. This is some next level shit. Too bad there's literally nothing supporting your statements.

>Oh and Lomonosov is Europe's best uni in terms of useful fields

Hahaha.

>>95079557
How much of a cuck you have to be to completely renounce your national identity? Southern Slavs are pathetic.

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>>95080096
please do not

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>>95082220
That is my point. Same shit different name. USSR sucking wasn't bc of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and the Ukraine.

>>95082921
Did you lose your national identity since you entered the EU?

>>95082921
>says Wielkie Księstwo Litewskie

>>95079557

>What IF this union/federation/republic existed?

Then you would turn into a corrupt oligarchy wherein the strongest slavic nation abused the economies and resources of the smaller ones, ie the Soviet Union.

I love the idea, and I respect Slavs, but you guys aren't on the same level as Germanics in terms of self-control and lawful administration which is why your empires and any political amalgamations requiring mutual respect between ethnic groups never last.

>>95082409
>Oh and Lomonosov is Europe's best uni in terms of useful fields
What about Prague University? I think it's bretty good too

>>95079557

All we have to do is throw vodka into the sea and you will be too busy chasing the bottles to the bottom of the sea to bother us.

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>>95083379
>I love the idea, and I respect Slavs, but you guys aren't on the same level as Germanics in terms of self-control and lawful administration which is why your empires and any political amalgamations requiring mutual respect between ethnic groups never last.
You right bro. I want to fight that. But I'm one in 300+ million.

>>95082921
>FYROM
>identity

c'mon now

>>95079557
Not very, soviet union was bigger and they STILL lost.

Also you would be in civil war within a week.

>>95083379
>self-control and lawful administration

exactly why we're not cucks, while the west is burning

>>95082921
We will, soon, won't be the first time either, same thing happened during commonwealth times.

Pan-slavism is completely cuck theory. As in Slavic union there would be no counterbalance forces to major Slavic power, which at the moment is Russia, therefore you would be no more than satellites of big empire. Just like you were during ottoman rule.

>>95079557
I love these threads my MOST POWERFUL race brothers <3 xD

>>95084277
Was meant for >>95083157

>>95079557
Fuck off. We had to deal with this shit for 40 fucking years and we're not going back to that.

>>95079557
at least you won't be full of niggers.

>>95084509
But, if you don't want to join, where do we go for cheap sex? I fucking hate Hungary man.

>>95079557

Why would the rest of the world be fucked? Almost all of those countries are dysfunctional

>>95084675
If you can't get cheap sex in your own fucking country, then you don't deserve it. I'd recommend killing yourself, maybe you'll get reborn in a better place.

>>95085174
We get it for free over here.

>>95083379
>but you guys aren't on the same level as Germanics in terms of self-control and lawful administration

It has downsides and upsides. Take a look at current germany. Jews told them to literally commit nation wide suicide, and they are doing it.

What you described might be as well just being good goy.

let me paste nice description of "german soul" that other anon posted on /pol/ today:

German byzantinism:

1. Moral dualism (positivism, law apart from ethics)

2. The government treats the state as its own property and doesn't care about citizen rights

3. Religion controlled by the state (caesaropapism)

4. Bureaucratism as a sign of the government's dominance over citizenry

5. State is oriented towards expansionism and militarism

>In Byzantine civilization, organized religion is dependent on the state. In this type of civilization all means are justified to achieve political goals. Politicians follow ethics in private life, but in public they are judged by their skills, not by ethics. The legal government has absolute authority and its orders are not doubted. Germany under Bismarck was an example of that type of civilization

>>95079557
The rest of the worldd would not be too fucked. But the people in those countries would be very fucked.

>>95085723
Unless we exclude russia.

>>95085571

And why do you think we are the targets of the globalists and not you?

exclude russia and the piece of clay that holds an inane claim to independency under the name of ((((""""ᵘᴷ*ᴬᴵᴺᴱ"""")))) and we can talk

>>95085963
You are easier targets. West have been subversed by marxists for 40 years. Entire generations grown knowing just reality that was poisoned by them. Now they are finishing their job.

Slavic countries from the other hand were spared from CULTURAL marxism.

Well and i must admit thet we are much less relevant than germany or uk for example, so we are not primary target (still there are Soros controlled organisation in Poland). But this might change in upcoming decades.

>>95086446
You are forgetting Belorus.

>>95083536
Agreed. Tho Lomonosov is the world's leading uni in terms of maths.

>>95082920
Having courses in arabic and gender studies does not make you better...

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OC, rate.

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>>95079557
>all of those countries leave eu
>form EEU (Eastern European Union)
>isolate ourselves from the shitskins in the west
WHEN

>>95087007
Slavs are basically the reason why Europe ain't a Turkish pashaluk.

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>>95079557
Nope! Fuck Russia.

>>95087007

>Not a group of Gobniks squatting drinking vodka and eating sunflower seeds.

>>95079557
>tfw we'll finally take Trieste back

>>95079557
The problem with it is that it would be dominated by Russians. If you'd skip Russia, it would be Poles. If you'd skip Poland it would be Ukrainians. And so on.

It simply doesn't work. Even Czechoslovakia has split even though Slovaks and Czechs generally like each other and it didn't really have that many problems with functioning.

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>>95087007
Will we accept black slavs?

>>95087066
Soon, Ondrej, soon...

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>>95087110

>The Bootlipckers of the Balkans and the useless cunts of central Europe stopped the turks.

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>>95087159
was my initial thought but I couldn't find a fitting picture. basically wanted to imitate this classic.

>>95079557
>Kaliningrad
>Budjack

>>95087153
>including SWEDEN YES
And fuck you, too, Wojtek.

>>95080350
maybe we should just let serbia annex you after all. You're just a shitty muzzie country anyway.

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>>95087159
Most Slavic picture I have saved so far.

>>95087110
>WE WUZ SAVIORS OF EUROPE AND SHIEET

>>95087190
Well, Germany was technically ruled by the Prussians, but it was irrelevant, as Germanhood came first.
Same can be done here.

We have to be practical, alone we are just easy grabs for the bankster-globalist axis of evil.

>>95085855
This is the best idea, but no one ever talks about it, because all the >muhslavia faggots are sucking russian cock

>>95087555
We WUZ!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna

>>95087362
Calm down, they'll be there to just pay for everything.

>>95087181
*Trst
And you are thinking too small, we go straight to the Isonzo river. Oh and sack and burn Venice to the ground for historical reasons.

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>>95079557
A citizen of Rome in the thread. Ave Putin!

>>95081186
Von Braun was in the US. Soviet space programme was handled mostly by Russians(Korolev, Glushko), with tzarist-era engineer Konstantin Tsiolkovsky being one of the 3 fathers of modern rocket engineering(along with Oberth and Goddard).
>>95081944
It's good when it comes to averages. For example our education system handles math wonderfully in this regard.

>>95087654
Muh Slavia movement is retarded. Western and Southern Slavs > East Slavs.

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>>95087985
image for burgers

>>95087190
>it would be Ukrainians.
We would get them with us, because they are part of us.

>>95088253
Whatever, you get the point.

>>95087920
Hello Ivan, you marked us Barbarians, yet YOU FUCKING LEARNED HOW TO READ AND WRITE FROM US YOU VODKA DRINKING FAGGOT!

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>>95079557
>Estonia and other Baltic villages not being part o Slavic Union

Also I'm a German in denial so no Slavic Union here in Bohemia is no no and if it would come to it, somehow, I'd go for Visegrad Confederation, as in, Visegrad; Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungaria and Austria.

>>95087985
I like you.

>>95088471
Cyril and Methodius were Hellenes.

>>95088537
No Austria. We don't want a repeat of that.

>>95079557
It exists already. It's name is Russia (plus some minor names depicting some particular westwards areas).

>>95088673
That's like saying that Arnold Schwarzeneger was a German.

>>95085855
>>95086446

Man, no matter where you look on /pol/, there's always some Poles being crybaby faggots about long-resolved history. Arrogant, disrespectful, race-traitorous, revisionist crybaby faggots.

Poland was run by military dictators in the early 20th century. In 1920, Poland stole land from Belarus. You gladly made deals and pacts with both of the totalitarian states that ended up splitting your ass up in 1939 when it benefited you. You did, in fact, abuse some of the Germans who ended up in your country after the disastrous Treaty of Versailles.

Prior to that, along with the Baltic states, you have hundreds and thousands of years of examples of backstabbing fellow whites, opportunistic alliances with Muslims, alcoholism, etc etc

Your hands are dirty as fuck. You have no right to bitch and moan. The world is as it is now for some very good reasons. Russo-Ukropians gave the greatest sacrifice in order to save the entire fucking Slavic race from extermination. It is not their individual fault that Stalin, an ethnic Georgian, played you for his own gain. Grow the fuck up.

>>95088471
Vodka is the Gallic drink. We drank Mead.

>>95088358
The point is, without us the rest of east slavs wont join(we wont allow), east slavs are only connection between west slavs and south slavs, thus chances are you will be divided and it will be just western slav union that cant compete even with germany

I don't want to join any alliance that would have us as a member.

>>95089201
>Vodka
>Gallic drink

>>95089444
What a waste of trips.

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>>95079557
improved version

>>95087654

Daily reminder that only gypsies and homosexuals hate Russia here.

Macedonians are Bulgarians

Bulgaria should annex this place

>>95088874
"Slavdom" is worth shit. What matters is soul. If we all became bunch of homo sovietius under russian rule, we woudlnt be better then faggot swedes.

What is important, nations soul - its ideals and principles. Latin civilization.

We protected it in 1920 from soviet hordes. You shoudl be thankfull. One polish general fromm ww2 period said - germans just kill us. Russians kill our souls. They will never be part of latin/western civilizations. This is just another type of mindset.

>>95089430
No.

The point is that this is never going to be Union where all sub-states are happy with it. It will split in no time because at first Russians will dominate so the rest will kick Russians out, then Poles will dominate it so they'll kick Poles out. And then another and another and we'll come back to the current state of things.

>>95088868
Austrians are a Germanic people. So yes, he has German blood.

The brothers were born in Thessaloniki and spoke Greek as their native language.

Vardarska is half Albanian anyway, why would you want to claim Greeks as your own?

>>95089639
100% go in Google

>>95089825
cuck

>>95089901
this is true

>>95079734
Yugoslavia wasn't affiliated with the Warsaw Pact though, not that they were very strong anyway.

>>95079557
>>95079919
>>95080511
>>95080096

>Macedonia
You are not Macedonia.
Macedonia is a part of Greece just like it always was. Macedonians were Greeks, not Slavs. You are one of the shittiest countries in Europe, full of muslims, gypsies and other pests. EVEN if there was a slavic union, everyone will make sure you don't belong to it. Why would you? And no, you didn't "start" cirilic alphabet, it "started" in Croatia or somewhere else in northern Balkans. You are Slav, I have no fucking idea how could you name your country after ancient Greek state, if you have nothing common with it.
Also
>slavic union
>with Russia
gtfo
>>95080350
Turk, please.

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>>95089973
Austrians are Germans.

Pic related - do you see "austrians" anywhere?

>>95089973
Kliment ohridski (bulgarian missionary) invented cyrillic, the brothers invented some other beta version alphabet.

>>95089973
Oh, I see. For a moment there, I was thinking that I was replying to a delusioned American. You are just a greek immigrant. Well, fuck off.

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>>95090165

чepкeз

This is the face of the Bulgarian "nationalists" who hate Russia.

>>95089773
Baltoslavs should be included too

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>>95079557
zbig wont allow that

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Anti-Russian is a code word for anti-White

Anti-Russian is also a code word for faggot

>>95089947
How would poles dominate? Not trying to be rude but you're no superpower.

>>95090407
>giving a fuck what simeonov thinks
kek, you're still a cuck

>>95090248
>it "started" in Croatia
>Croatia

for fucks sake, lad

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>there will never be Pan-Slavic Union because all slavs hate each other
>and even if we deal with hate West will ruin everything
Why even live

>>95090248
I love you too, Greek living in Poland.

>>95090578
No one even brought them up spergo

>>95090578
>anime

you are the faggot here

>>95079557
there is no such a thing as a slavs
it was made out by some croat

>>95090762

OK now I am certain that you are a gypsy

Anime is something that only White men and honorary Aryans can appreciate

Now get out of /pol/ you trash

pan-slavism is a dead ideology

>>95090603
They've got more manpower than any other country in that union.

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>>95090269
No. That's my point. The key indicates the red parts being inhabited by Germans, including what is labeled as "Austria."

I wish I was Jewish

>>95090603
We are still most influential slavic country if you omit russia.

>>95090578
kill yourself, faggot

>>95091022
Easier to immigrate to Germany? :D

>>95090603
Population size.

This is going to be like Yugoslavia - read up on it - Serbs took over after Tito died and purposefully let Slovenes to split* because it meant Serbian domination as normally the fact that there were more Serbs than anybody else in Yugoslavia was outweighted by Croats, Slovenes, Bosniaks(or Serbs muslims or whatever you call them), Kosovian Albanians, Macedonian Albanians and Macedonian Bulgarians.

When Slovenes quit, the balance of powers was broken. You will see the same stuff happening there. One chimp-out and the country with the biggest population will dominate the rest.

*American intelligence had something to do with it but that's beyond the point.

>>95090996
>pan-turkism
>turanism
how are these any different?

>>95091054

you are a bunch of American cocksuckers

that even British faggots are not afraid to kick around like dogs

westerners would never allow it

>>95091007
Military does not really matter if we were supposed to be in a union.

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>>95090996
stfu roach you are not allowed to post here

>>95089939
>One polish general fromm ww2 period said - germans just kill us. Russians kill our souls.

You know, I always disagreed with this statement. In fact, I'm fairly positive that the Germans are far worse. If you look at history, Russia may have treated us badly, but what they never managed was to russify us. They tried their hardest, but no matter how bad it got and how heavy the chains, most Poles would still look down on the Russians.

Now look at the Poles under German influence. So many Poles germanized over time that lands once Polish were actively identifying as German. Even those who officially never germanized, like the Upper Silesians or Kashubs, developed this fucked up superiortiy complex towards other Poles, just by being in contact with the Germans.

>>95079557
TURBO SQUATS KURWA

>>95091022
чeкд

>>95091245
I wont deny that. I wish we had better politicians, but this is how it works in post colonial nations.

But still, we are still better than other slavic countries.

>>95091275
I meant in terms of general population, not military size. Any way you slice it, the group with the largest population in a union will invariably become dominant.

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>>95090407
ape вeднъж зa винaги дa cпpeм c тaя poccия/хaмepикa/eвpoгeйщинa/итн
cпpeтe дa лижeтe зaдницитe нa дp. He ми пyкa зa нитo eднa дp cтpaнa ocвeн Бългapия.
ниe нямaмe бpaтя,пpиeмeтe гo нaй-пocлe ,caми cмe.

>>95091359
>So many Poles germanized over time that lands once Polish were actively identifying as German.
Case in Point - Merkel's grandpa.

Russia and Serbia would run a pan-Slav federation and leave FYROM behind. They'll take Archbishop Jovan and let the rest of you pseudo-Slavs to rot.

>>95091179
I'll just add something - when Slovenes quit, all those non-Serbian ethnic groups started rumouring about seceding because they didn't want to be part of what would functionally be Greater Serbia. Yugoslavia was okay-ish but Greater Serbia - nope.

Same applies to the panslavic union.

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>>95090269
>Hungarians...
>Distant relatives of Siberian Khantys, who came together with the Huns.
>Austro-Hungary Empire
>40% Khantys
Hitler is crying... kek.

>>95091526

Russia is better than you.

>>95091548

Личнo aз бих пpeдпoчeл дa cи възcтaнoвим пpиятeлcтвoтo c Pycия. Дa, в мoмeнтa cмe caми и тoвa хич нe e дoбpe cпopeд мeн.

>>95091108
>>95091418
I hate slavshit subhumans

I am a Greek

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>>95082920
>>95081944
>Grade skipping is a form of academic acceleration, often used for academically talented students, that involves the student entirely skipping the curriculum of one year of school. This is done when a student is sufficiently advanced in all school subjects, so that he or she can move forward in all subjects, rather than in only one or two areas.
that's what happens when a Romanian or Hungarian kid moves to a western country.
if you don't believe me do your own research.

ps- Belgium is not a real country

>>95091866
>Russia is better than you.
Jesus christ, can you read? Of cource that right now they are, i admitted that. At least if you consider factors like political and military influence.

>>95079557
>Slavic union
Didn't a place called the Soviet Union exist?

>>95091588
This but also Belarus
Russia and Serbia are the only Slavic countries that don't hate each other

>Poland
>hates Russia and Ukraine
>Ukraine
>hates Russia and Poland
>Croatia
>nato fuckboy
>Bulgaria
>hates everyone and pretends to be special
>Czech Republic
>see Bulgaria
>Macedonia
>literally has same population my city does

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>>95079557
Polacks (polovtsy) are Cumans - thats part of mongol horde, they are not slav, they are half-mongol half-turk.

first order of business of slav federation will be anexation of e*rope btw

>>95092242

OK.

By the way there is an interesting article in Social Matter about the future potential of Poland


http://www.socialmatter.net/2016/05/10/poland-and-russia-will-fight-for-control-of-europe/

>>95090697
>Greek living in Poland
Are there any lol?

>>95092463
If memory serves me right Russia was sacked by Mongols in middle Ages (multiple times) not us (except few skirmishes).

So its much more probable tht you have some ghenghis khan genes, not me.

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>>95080096
>>95088471
знaeх чe мaкeтaтa ca зaблyдeни нo чaк пък тoлкoвa :DDDDDDDD

>>95092341
>Macedonia
>literally has same population my city does

We are half the thread obviously exceptional

>>95091866
>Russia is better than you.
Russia is better in Moscow than we are on average. Still Wroclaw and Warsaw beat Moscow(although not in size). Outside of Moscow we're talking about the Easternest Eastern-Poland level shithole here, except it applies for the entire fucking country

>>95092248
It would be same just without russia and the communism.

>>95091866

>в мoмeнтa cмe caми
нямa cтpaнa кoятo e дa билa нaш вepeн пpиятeл (в тoвa чиcлo и pocия,пpипoмни cи).вcички ca ни пpeдaвaли

>пpиятeлcтвoтo c Pycия
cъглaceн, pycия e дocтa aнти зaпaднaтa тoлepacтия,кoeтo e дoбpe.нo вce пaк дa ocтaнeм caмo пpиятeли cи нeя..

>>95091359
You might be onto something here.

>>95092627
>>95092463

Stop it both of you, this is retarded. Poland and Russia are the two examples of pure Slavs (and Belarus I guess but they should be part of Russia).

While generally nobody denies that about Poland, there is this meme that Russians are mixed blood, "scratch a Russian you will find a tatar" etc. A few simple facts:

1. Russian genes are recessive, while Asian ones are dominant. This alone makes it pretty obvious that the Russians are not mixed, otherwise they would have looked different. In fact they are one of the most homogenous nations.

2. All the small ethnicities in the Russian Federation could not have survived if there was significant mixing, as that would lead to assimilation.

3. The frequency of rudimentary epicantus (chink eyes) in ethnic Russians is 1 in 700 and that;s the same frequency as the Germans.

>>95092856

There are many nice places outside Moscow and St. Petersburg. And I am not just talking about >1mil cities like Perm, Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk, etc. Small towns like Tuymen (which has a GDP per capita the same as Norway), Belgorod and many others.

Sure some parts are shitty, but they are constantly improving.

>>95087153
this map has no sense or point

>>95092623
I know Greek refugees settled in Kroscienko in Podkarpacie during the 1950s.

>>95093782
>while Asian ones are dominant
Not in all cases. My friend had kazakh grandfather, but others of his roots are pure russian. He have pale skin, pure blue eyes and very light hairs (lighter than my).

>>95093782
Russians in private relations act like Slavs. If Czechs, Poles, Slovaks and Russians got together, I doubt they couldn't get along very well. But russian collective ogranisation is completely different from that of Poles or Czechs. It's incomparably more brutal, cynical, corrupt and it rejects any notion of cooperation among people. They perceive state-citizen relations as a constant struggle and supervision, compromise and deliberation are rejected in Russia as pointless. I believe this has to do with them being ruled for a long time by Vikings, Mongols and Germans

>>95093706
I actually remember reading that Dmowski was of a similar opinion.

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>>95094501

So what is your argument - that your friend looks fully Russian but is only 75% Russian so this may be true for all the other Russians as well?

It's like saying that white people in America are not white because Rashida Jones looks white.

>>95095174
I told this to the fact that the Asian genes are not dominant.
Most of russians are pure slavic, but we don't know about of all roots of every russian.

>>95090908
Hail!

>>95079557
>see slavic union thread
>check flag
>obviously it's a yugo

Fuck off, there is a reason only yugoslav posters make such threads.

Russians are mongol, but mentally.

>>95094942

I don't know enough about Poland or Slovakia to make that comparison.

But if I compare Russia to the supposedly democratic West, it is quite obvious to me that the Russians are actually more free in many respects, and overall it definitely doesn't seem to me that their government is less democratic or that their media is less free (it's the opposite from what I see).

>>95095703

>Asian genes are not dominant.

Asian genes are in fact dominant, and that is related to probability of inheritance, so your isolated example is not related to the overall state of things that I was talking about.

>>95092623
yeah like 60k, iirc they came after ww2 because they had a civil war in greece or something like that

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>>95096125
So what?

>>95079734
>Slavic union
>Slavs ruled by jews against their will
pick one

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>Poland is mad at Russia all the time
>loves Germany and would suck German dick any day
>despite the fact that Germany killed 20 times more Poles during Soviet-German invasion
>Warsaw Ghetto was ok
>Katyn Massacre is not
explain yourself

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Hitler hated Slavs with good reason. They're subhuman filth and must be wiped off the face of the earth. Only germanic teutonic and germaic anglo peoples have a right to exist.

>>95096918
Why shoudl i explain some shitty strawman

>>95086631
Belo rus best rus

>>95096934

Hitler and Stalin should have united to exterminate the anglo-kikes.

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>>95096918
germans don't deny their crimes

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>>95097113

yeah im sure poles wuld LOVE joining this totally-not-USSR

>>95090439
JUST leave us alone.

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>>95096934
>>hur dur i am white nigger its cool

>>95097399

Yes, he was wrong about the Russians and he was wrong about you, which is literally the biggest mistake in human history.

He saw the truth about the kikes, but he did not see the other half - that the Eternal Anglo is much like those same kikes.

Just giving an outsiders perspective, but it sounds like it would fall apart quickly.
If Yugoslavia fell apart because of minor dialectic differences why would something with way more little subgroups work?

>>95096918
explanation inc.
>Poland is mad at Russia all the time
yeah
>loves Germany and would suck German dick any day
no, it's just our previous installed government
>despite the fact that Germany killed 20 times more Poles during Soviet-German invasion
yet they never managed to break our spirit as effective as your judeo-communism (we suffer from this to this day)
>Warsaw Ghetto was ok
it wasn't, and they were all jews
>Katyn Massacre is not
you did that only to prevent any uprising in your new satellite state
k m8
>>95096934
The amount of bullshit, oh god m8

>>95097167
Silesia should have gone to us, fucking thiefs and fucking manlets on our side for being too pussy not to go for it.

>>95097823
You forgot about religion

>>95096390
>or that their media is less free
yeah right, all those murdered journalists in Russia are just sad accidents. We shouldn't justify our rejection of western fanaticism by embracing russian fanaticism. Both fanaticisms are bad

>>95098056
we both tried to get more clay but stalin told us to stfu

>>95097167
>germans don't deny their crimes
Actually, you too.
Ask for forgiveness for the mass death of Soviet prisoners of war after the Polish-Soviet War of the 20th's. We apologize for the Katyn and so on.

>>95097167
present-day Russia is not denying that NKVD killed POW officers

>>95096918
Germans for now are not hostile towards Poland. They were incorporated by the USA to the atlantic security system. This is why Germany seems non controversial. But I think this is slowly changing and the West will become more and more hostile towards Poland because it is catholic

>>95098170

There are murdered journalists in the West as well.

Also plenty of "opposition" journalists in Russia are alive.

In any case I can directly compare the mainstream media. Russian state TV channels always invite 1 man from the other side - I am talking about genuine batshit insane Ukrainian nationalists, American neoliberal terrorist-supporting journalists, etc.

I can't imagine an actual Russian representing the mainstream view in Russia to be invited at CNN or Fox and be able to express those views and challenge their narrative.

>>95089773
No need polen kurwas in union
>jewcycked catholishism
>NATO whores

>>95098137
I'm sure there's a lot I'm not aware of, I know very little about that part of the world.
What are the main religious differences, orthodox/ catholic?

>>95079557
>How fucked would the rest of the world be?
Pretty fucked. If they all unite with Russia once they sort some of their corruption out and Russia manages to treat all the slavs fairly and with respect the Slavic Union would be unstoppable desu.

>>95079734
>US tore down the walls
US didnt tare down shit.

>>95098228
Oh, you mean that counter-katyn you invented to make your crimes at least a little less severe?

Pathetic.

>>95081051
>Russians are not effectively Slavs
Kek. Russians are much more slavic than Poles who sold out to Germanics and Nords. As well as betrayed Slavs by siding with the Catholic heretics

Yeah, that Danubian corridor looks totally long-term sustainable and not open to being invaded

Also
>muh linguistic group means shit
Serbs have more in common with Romanians than Poles, Czechs more with Hungarians than Russians

>>95098573
simple question
would you want to live in the West or in Russia?

>>95098573
Yeah I've seen some of those russian discussions and they seem pretty staged. They used to invite one Pole who acted tough towards Russians in russian tv but in reality is anti-USA and supports Russia. I believe it is done to just strengthen resentments. Russians also make up interviews with "polish generals"

>>95080695
BASED
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>>95098846
>at least a little less severe
No, exactly like yours.
If you don't apologize, we will not too.
It would be truth at least.

>>95096934
Go back to studying genders.

this thread is one big
>I have no evidence nor knowledge to support my claims but I am right and everybody who thinks otherwise is wrong

>>95098846
>you invented
Even Polish wikipedia says 16-20 thousands died in your camps

>>95099334
lol they were russians not humans, who cares

>>95099059
>As well as betrayed Slavs
Do you know who has founded the Rurykovych dynasty? And do you know who has founded the Piast and Przemyślidzi dynasty?

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>>95098170
who on pic kurwa?

>>95099077

Russia, easily.

It definitely seems like the better long-term choice and there are plenty of places that I consider nice enough.

If you are a plumber for example it will be financially better for you to go West at least for the near future, but I am not a plumber and I can make decent money anywhere in the world.

>>95098675
Bosnians are muslims, that massacre in srebrenica was orthodox serbs killing muslim bosniaks. Croats and Slovenes are Catholic. Serbs were the strongest and orthodox. After Tito died Serbs thought they no longer need to share power with others.

>>95082409
A bosnian goes to work to germany and his employer asks him: aren't you the lazy ones? and he replys: no no no, don't worry, those are montenegrans you're talking about, we're the dumb ones...

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>>95099392
t. Aleksander Krejckant aka gay hipster

>>95099648
ok then, go to Russia

can all Russia's supporters please migrate to Russia?

>>95099958

Once the west is done killing my country, I may have no choice but to do it, actually.

>>95100091
>scary west killing your country? migrate to Russia!
a paradise on earth!
please do

>>95089825
Fuck off atakafag

>>95099285
So you compare death from ilness, and poor housing to shooting in back of head and dumping into mass graves?

How about that, will you counter this with some opressed russian minoryty or something too?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD_(1937%E2%80%9338)

Funny thing is that it wast mostly Jews or Jewish russians who are behind katyn.

And there is no nation (except china maybe) that was hurt by communism more than russians themselves. Yet you sem to be proud of your history from that period.

>>95090248
brutal

>>95099648
>It definitely seems like the better long-term choice
What? Rampant degeneracy and corruption, cynical people, no prospects for economical betterment, relying only on oil prices to go up, how is that in the long run better? The reality is that both the West and Russia are terrible choice in the long run

>>95099334
Yes, but not from bullets. Those who died weren't killed on purpose, it was mostly various epidemics in overcrowded camps. It's not comparable.

>>95087250
Only female ones.

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>>95090248
>And no, you didn't "start" cirilic alphabet, it "started" in Croatia or somewhere else in northern Balkans.
whoah, whoah, whoah, TRIGGERED

>>95100671
1) Slowly die from disease without any medical help
2) Get shot
Take your pick, famalam.
Also you can't really compare killings of officers and regular soldiers. Captured Polish officers were ideological enemies, just like Soviet commissares during WW2

>>95100351
>So you compare death from ilness, and poor housing to shooting in back of head and dumping into mass graves?
Yes, because it's all consequence of policies.
I don't say, that it's a same crimes, but it's crime too. And many thousands died.
Why we must apologize for thousands died poles, but must forget thousands died russians?
It's not fair.
>Yet you sem to be proud of your history from that period.
We are not proud, it's our history. It is so, how it is. Just in USSR period were rise of our glory, science, culture. First man in the Space - is russian.
Much achievements also.

>>95101394
>Captured Polish officers were ideological enemies,
See? Russian mentality at its finest.
It wa okay to kil them becauese this helped our agenda. You might be moral in your private life, but notion of morality in politics is alien to you.

>>95099478
I dont know his name but his political party is or was a pro-russian party with 0.00% support. No one gives a fuck about him and he was accused of spying or something like that recently. Probably funded by Kremlin but they quickly realized he's a failure and left him on his own.

Just got back from Serbia, Croatia, Monetnegro. Slavs are lazy cunts and unproductive, as a whole. Good people, eternally butthurt.

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Maybe we don't have to be in a union but I'd like to see us stop bickering with each other

>>95079557
Exclude the meme slavs aka catholics ones. We have nothing in common with them.

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>>95101494
Its like with trolley paradox.
We just didnt helped that captured russians because we had other priorities. We didnt captured them from russian soil, they came there by themselves, to strip us from our freshly gained freedoms.

From they other hand, USSR (i wont just say russians becaue at this point you were cucked by jews already) invaded us, captured or elites, one of our finest that were supposed to lead our nation - and with somehow inhuman and industrial precision they took their lives and dumped them in mass graves - so that our nation woudl be easier to subvert and turnerned into colony.

Do you really fail to see difference from moral standpoint?

>>95101744
>It wa okay to kil them becauese this helped our agenda. You might be moral in your private life, but notion of morality in politics is alien to you.
So it was necessary to do, when you have on the recently seized territory the thousands of nationalist officers who certainly will raise a rebellion. At the your front. On the eve of the most large-scale war in the history of mankind.
Solve this problem - to save lives of russian soldiers.
It is not our mentality, it's your mentality too. And the mentality of the world. It is the policy. It's human mentality.

>>95102238
Only Poland are real slavs

East slavs are viking slavs
West slavs are german slavs
South slavs are turk slavs

>>95080096
Big words from an Albanian.

>>95087920
Promoted from puppets to allies,Baba get the rakija!
On the other hand any Croats here,the Catholic vs Otrhodox shitposting has already begun between Russia and Poland,i am getting bored here.

>>95101744
>Russian mentality
This is what Soviets did. Captured White Army officers were also executed although most of them were Russian. If Civil war would happen in Poland, how you think, what would happen to captured high-rank military personnel?

>>95102238
DEAL

>>95102272
I see that people were killed. Exactly the same as I, just the same as you. Who also had families. And reasons to do what they did. If you want to close this topic and safely go in the future is not clinging to the past, you have to understand it.
I can also bring counterarguments that Poland from the point of view of the Soviet Union was a part of the Russian Empire and from the soviet point there was the Civil War in Russia, not the Soviet-Polish war.

>>95102505
No, i'm fairly convinced that only the cruelty of russians could handle this thing.
Look, after the peace of Riga the communists offered us more than we got, we could've gotten more land like Minsk, right? We didn't accept it cause we didn't want problems, we couldn't persecute the minorities there even though you imply that everybody would do that.
We fed the Ukrainians when you were genociding them with famine.
It's not the world, it's the fact that you are only theoritically slavic and when making any decisions, your nation's mongrel genes take over.

>>95102921
Civil war is different. In that case you are just defending yourselv from invasion, coming from inside, not outside - like you were invaded by bolsheviks. You have moral right to defend yourselv by any cost.

As fr these white officers - i will repeat this. Russians are biggest victim of communism. We might come second.

>>95079557
It was called the ussr

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>>95102884
Leave them, get that rakija instead.

>>95103350
>when you were genociding them with famine.
Don't say me, that you are really believe in this meme.
I also sad, what I think. - >>95103254
It's bad when people dies. Russians died. Poles died. It's all crime.

>>95102790
Uhm, I would call Belarus and part of Ukraine purer slavs in that context, but genetics play no role. It's all about religion and culture. Poland, The Czech Republic etc. those are western countries. They are ignorant about our history and look down on us.

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>>95096934
>''Only germanic teutonic and germaic anglo peoples have a right to exist.''
>Looks at flag

You are aware that doesn't include mudlsimes like you, right Mohammed?

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>>95079557
inb4 civil war

>>95102921
>high-rank

Maybe the highest rank would be executed for treason. The rest would be imprisoned or exiled. Later in the 30s we even had a mini concentration camp for commies and ukrainian terrorists where they were kept indefinitely but not killed.

>>95102238
no omg

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>>95103254
In the view of soviet union, whole world was theirs for taking They had globe in their state emblem. We were never part of you. 123 years of russification didnt achieved shit. We are poles, not russians.

As fo history. These that dont remeber their history are fated to repeat it. We must never forget what you are.

>>95103801
Wasn't Greater Bulgaria created by Russia to be their puppet but you betrayed them and started 2 Balkan wars against us?Then u again invaded in WW1 on the side of the Austro-Hungary who had a pact with the Ottoman empire?And now you are part of NATO?Are we talking about the same Bulgaria here?
Croats don't wanna shitpost so now you are my target kek.

>>95103801
No religion is more or less slavic as no religion is made by the slavs. Culture formed out of religion, so yeah. I'm afraid that genetics are the only thing that defines the slavic traits, as with the introducing of Christianity all the slavic countries started to move away from it's cores.
It's not our fault that we were bordering the Holy Roman Empire when you were bordering the Byzantium

>>95103658
If "its all just a crime", why you get life entence for stabbing someone and no punishment for ignoring drowning man?

Resultat is the same, human died.

>>95099648
wut iz wrong with youu , reeeee

>>95104194
You were part of our country, but not part of our ethnicity ofcourse.
Then you declared independence. But you were part of the Russian Empire, as well as the territory of Soviet Union. And in fact it was a war between former compatriots.
>>95104194
>We must never forget what you are.
Such people like you? Huh, ok.
If you want to cling to the past, while not acknowledging your crimes - I will not bother you. I only gave advice.

>>95102173
Except mongols :)

>>95105108
I do not quite understand what you mean.
If you are about political repression in the Soviet Union, it is also a crime, but it is our internal affair, we must not apologize to anyone for this, it is our history. But you are think that we must to apologize for the dead Poles.
Then you have to apologize for the dead Russians. That is my point.

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>>95104392
Bulgaria did LITERALLY nothing wrong.

>>95105182
He is right,the West is suffering because of people exactly like you who believe moving to another country will solve all of their problems than they it turns around they where niggers the whole time and become criminals.Long-term Russia is better.

>>95105659
Even if we use your logic they DID do something wrong,they lost all 3 of the wars i named.

>>95105243
...And you acknowledged our independence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Riga
There was no legal Russian empire, and the Soviet state accepted our eastern border.
>...while not acknowledging your crimes
The thing is, we never get the evidence, because all of our crimes are somehow just theories made up by the occupants to justify their genocides. If you want to prove me wrong, then give me one good source on a crime comparable to Katyn.

>>95105870
Well they won the first balkan war against the turks(and they did most of the fighting)
They lost the second balkan war(fighting against 5 other countries)
They lost ww1 but they still bitchslaped serbia as usual.

So whatever.

>>95105613
I was reffering to comparing soviet prisoners of war that died due to ilness and poor housing in detention camps and polish officers in katyn. You stated that both cases are morally the same, attempting to relativize your country crimes.

Not all crimes are same. Waht count is intent. But it seems i cant convince you.

>>95106154
Right the first one was against the Turks my bad,they literally came in 3rd offensive with Austro-Hungarian and German forces after we stopped 2 Austro-Hungarian offensives so yeah good job friends!

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>>95106154
>Hold fucking AH
>Bulgaria comes backdoor
>Bitchslaped

>>95105243
>Such people like you? Huh, ok.
No. We must not forget that you are aggresive and collectivist nation that will attack us if we give you a chance. We have to care about our safety.

And no, we are not "all just humans" This is globallist bullshit. We have different mentality. I pray to god that latin mentality will one day become dominant one in the world.

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>>95106154
Tatars don't die

>>95106154
How do you even have a MK flag on your posts you fucking tatar Гaнчo???

>>95106088
>Due to epidemics raging at the time, made worse by the very bad sanitary conditions in which the prisoners were held, largely due to overcrowding, between 16,000 and 20,000 Soviet soldiers held in the Polish POW camps died, out of the total of 80,000 to 85,000 prisoners.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camps_for_Russian_prisoners_and_internees_in_Poland_(1919%E2%80%9324)
I'm not comparing the crimes. The bottom line is that if you want to close the topic with past grievances, and want that we will apologize for your crimes, you also have to apologize for your.

>>95079557
i don't think that poland would accept a union with russia

>How fucked would the rest of the world be?

Not at all.

It would break itself apart in the first six months.

Croats Poles Serbs and Russians in one country is a recipe for chaos.

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>>95106633
>We must not forget that you are aggresive and collectivist nation that will attack us if we give you a chance
Oh, fuck, is it not literally what you did every time, when we were weak politically?
You are a hypocrite.

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>>95106561
xaxa

>>95083536
it cannot compete with the west universities tho

>>95105745

>the West
> believe moving to another country will solve all of their problems than they it turns around they where niggers the whole time and become criminals

Well,how this not rrelate to russia ?
It's the same.It doesn't matter where you are (west/russia). You are still going to be the cancer.

>because of people exactly like you
I'm not going anywhere, but you are right about the others!

>would you want to live in the West or in Russia?
I would choose Bulgaria ,fight for my cunt or die trying!

>>95106827
Abe ti od koga si dojden da ne znaes deka sme Bugari, izgleda si fresh off youtube

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>>95106766
>war starts
>germans are winning
>join the germans
>get clay
>germans start losing
>join russians instead
>war ends, russia wins
>get to keep some of the clay gained thanks to germans
>minimal blood spilt(mostly fighting commie partizan mountain goatfuckers)

>>95107295
He јaди гoмнa.

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>>95107308

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>>95107181
New war when?

>>95106880
Our soldiers died of diseases in your camps too but we're not asking you to apologize for that because that's normal during a war. We have a problem with stuff you did that was beyond acceptable limits.

>>95107643
hopefully soon so i finally get to taste the flesh of serbian baby just like my great grandpa in ww1

>>95107227
Cause Russia portrayed as poor country that doesn't dance to will of migrants so only the hard-working people who wish to change their life not the niggers.

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>>95079557
I think you mean >pic related.

>>95106880
The thing is, Poles appologizing for that would in the end make the Russian all time goal come true. You would make us feel guilty for wanting to save our children, and the further generations.
Do you know why we don't feel like it was a crime? Because we didn't cold bloodely kill them, we just didn't help. Deep in the polish mentality, there is a all-time true sentence, which says that your enemy's life will most certainly mean your death. If you didn't make us recognize you as enemies, that would never happen.

Polish officers never wanted war, they didn't pray to have somebody's else territory. The Russian soldiers, i can assure you probably felt the same way Germans did after WW1, they hated us even more than they did before the war.

It's not about apologizing for killing people, it's about apologizing for taking people's life just to ensure your dominance over someone else.
It's like killing the family's head just to make sure you can easily kick the rest of it out.

>>95090248
Croatians don't even use the cyrillic alphabet.

>>95107940
will move there.*Forgot to finish the sentence.

>>95107669
To kill soldiers too is normal in times of war.
25% of prisoners died, it is not normal.
If the percentage of Polish prisoners of war who died in our camps is also high, I think we should apologize for it also. In the Gulag before the war in average 3% of prisoners died

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>>95107813
>Literally proud to be barbarian
>Needs others to fight its wars, when loosing switches sides

It will be nice to kill subhumans again

>>95107308
>Lose Macedonia
>Kill Macedonian Juden

Not really a win but whatever

>>95107549
т. aнтички peдитop

>>95108236
what are you talking about you'll be the one getting killed you fucking subhuman faggot

>>95090248
This gentleman is 100% correct. FYROMers are sad identity confused Bulgarians. Also I think Cyrillic script was developed around Bulgaria in the late 10th century but I'm too lazy to google this shit now

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>>95108459
not an argument my tatar friend

>>95108236
When has serbia won a war on it's own?

was it 1885? nope, Bulgaria won that one.

>>95108335
That's true, the dream of united macedonia and bulgaria wasn't realized.

New thread

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>>95108790
lol

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>>95108790
desu this shit tier thread belongs there.

>>95108669
can't wait for vranye massacre, tsaribrod massacre, zaechar massacre, nish massacre, bosilegrad massacre

Also any Pol fag think there is a chance that Poland and Russia make up once Putin leaves and it goes back to White Russia?The crimes where all done by filthy commies,not the white Russians.

>>95109125
stay barbarian my civilized friend :)