Political Compass Thread

Go team purple

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>>91766067

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>>91766067
>melting pot of friendship
>capitalism or death

kek

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>>91766067

gib test link fag

Nice try NSA.

>>91766067
>i am 12 and what is this
>implying being a pragmatist, centrist, rationalist isn't the best solution to politics
ck ck ck

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Ya rate it niggers. I'm somewhere in the Red Quadrant for the nerd one.

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>>91766067
>tfw white guilt category
>tfw no white guilt at all
>tfw this test alway put me in the soci category just beacuse I keep in mind that people and competitive individuals under pressure can revolt so we need to compromise

lol, bottom right is the ULTIMATE "good goy" philosophy

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Where my INTPs at?

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>>91766067

>>91767838
Gib link

>>91767841
What are the two at the bottom?

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>>91768526
Wassup, broski.

>>91766067
>Democrats
>Right

I hate this meme

>>91768493
Nope when you are bottom roght you become the jew

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>>91766067
political compass is trash

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>>91768526
Hybrid reporting.

>>91768703
k persian nigga
http://filteries.com/

>>91768841
Is there an easier way to have your graph organized.

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>>91768526
I've tested intp/istp and I've also tested in the bottom right, further right, but still close on the horizontal line more frequently than what I just got now
I just changed on some social issues/opinions but I don't think those should be legally enforced

>>91767660
It isnt, you unprincipled hippie

>>91769269
>but I don't think those should be legally enforced

This would put you more in the purple then

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>>91766067

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>>91769716

topkek

>>91766067
>im in her

what does this mean?

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>>91767329

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What am I?

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>>91766067

>>91770194
Bootlicker

>>91769151
open it up in autoCAD

>>91769218
MUH SPOOKS

leftypol pls

>>91770202
You're like a homosexual version of me lmfao.

>>91770429
y

pls no bully :3

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You´re all leftist trash

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>>91767841
>black markets matter.

I literally lol'd
That is pretty damn clever.

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>>91769218

le upboat

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>>91766067

>>91770519
can you please give me a link to the religion test?

>>91770721
http://www.selectsmart.com/RELIGION/#myreligion

>>91766067
Im tripping balls man

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>>91766067
MAGA

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>>91770656

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>>91770922

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>>91770957

>>91766067
That's surprisingly accurate

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>>91771007

>>91767950
Is it weird if all of these look comfy?

>>91769987
topkek

But seriously, child prostitution violates the NAP because children are not full property owners and are thus the partial property of their parents.

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>>91770589
You're more of a lenient dictator American broski.

>>91771214

>laboratory children

can't beat that

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>>91770108
>>91767329
Muh freedom lad

>>91770648
holy shit this is redpill

>>91771214
So what if the parents sell their property?

>>91770648
>>91771590
kek we have IDs, nobody is fooled by your samefagging

>>91771644

>partial

>>91771644
Thats called adoption.

>>91768724
Egoismball (see Max Stirner), and Individualismball.

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rate me

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rate me faggots

>>91771214
>kidnappers care about violating the non aggression principle

>>91771644
if the child consented, it's both of their faults if the experience negatively influences the child's life.

>>91770648
this is a must read

>>91771713
Well they sell their share and the child will be set free once it's 18 years old

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>>91766067
Guess I'm a 12 year old who did shop class.

>>91771822
weedeau faggot

>>91768526
I'm also Libertarian right and INTP. Is there a direct correlation?

>>91771937
>if the child consented
That's what heroin is for

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Cucks

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>>91770837
thanks

>>91770648
holy FUCK

>>91772037
Yes. 90% of 4Chan are INTP while at least half of /pol/ are libertarian

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I expected it to be far higher.

>>91772138
fucking sperg faggot

>>91772055
>muh heroin!
nice argument. I actually support people dying from heroin because it weeds out people who are unfit to live in their current environment, most of whom are niggers. People, like chattel, need evolutionary interruption. Preserving the diseased and unproductive holds humanity back.

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FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT ALL FORMS OF REPUBLICANISM AND CHOSEN GOVERNMENT IS LEFTIST !

THE WHOLE POLITICAL COMPASS IS BASED ON THE FRENCH REVOLUTION !

DO NOT TAKE THE FRENCH REVOLUTION FOR GRANTED, IT IS NOT NEEDED !

TRUE GOLD PILL = MONARCHY

"Freedom" "Equality" "Democracy" = codewords for Jewish gangster banksters do get smoking rich, destroy nations, rule the world, snort coke and fuck loli's

EVERYONE READ
>>91770648
>>91770648
>>91770648
VERY IMPORTANT

DO NOT FEEL OBLIGED TO HAVE A POLITICAL COMPASS

THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE !

(United leftist states of America is a heretic leftist rebellious anti-christ republic ! )

LONG LIVE THE KING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5q663IWmD4

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>>91768606
getting closer, m8.

>>91768526
>not intj

Lmaoing

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>>91767838
You are fucking disgusting.

>>91772571
>the world would be perfect if only we decided our leadership completely fucking arbitrarily!

Autism

>>91771933
Kidnappers violated the NAP so its ok to lynch them. Do you think the NAP is some pacifist suicide pact?

>>91772571
kek spergy schizo

>>91772558
You're absolutely right. And it shouldn't stop at heroin. Who needs abortion if you can turn people into sterile, consuming robots and keep them alive for 100+ years

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Does anyone have the "your labor belongs to the country (which belongs to me :^))" one?

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>>91772840
THOU ARE IGNORANT, THAT IS A REPUBLICAN MYTH!! REBUTTED

>Monarchies are un-democratic!
Not true. Actually, most monarchies in the world today are more democratic than most republics in the world. Further, in most republics (even the United States) the President is not directly elected by the people anyway. However, being democratic is not necessarily a good thing. Benevolent leaders and bloodthirsty dictators have both come to power through democracy.

>Monarchies are too expensive!
Not true, not by a long shot. Some monarchs (such as the Prince of Liechtenstein) cost the public nothing at all. In the United Kingdom, the money the Queen grants the government from the Crown Estates is considerably more than the allowance she receives from the Civil List, so Britain effectively makes money off the monarchy. Republics often spend more on their presidents, past presidents and first families than monarchies do on their royal houses. Many countries share a monarch and pay nothing and monarchies do not have the constant, massive expense of elections and political campaigns for the top job.

Hereditary monarchy just isn’t fair!
How can any system for determining national leadership be absolutely fair? It hardly seems fair that one person should receive the top job simply because he or she is more popular. Surely the correct criteria should be how qualified a person is rather than if they are good at making speeches, more photogenic or being more gifted at graft and deceit. In a monarchy the top job goes to someone trained from birth to fill that role. In a republic, even under the best circumstances, an elected president will take half their term learning to do the job and the other half campaigning to retain it; hardly a model of efficiency. Hereditary succession seems much more “fair” than granting power to those able to swindle enough money and promise enough favors to the powerful to obtain the highest office in the land.

>>91767950

>libertarian right

>utopia

ahahhaha

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Which are you?

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IGNORE US REPUBLICANS. IT IS AN ANTI-EUROPEAN IDEOLOGY. IGNORE LEFTIST US HERETIC SHITPOSTERS.

POLITICAL COMPASS = TRASH

UNITED STATES = ANTI EUROPE.
SHE IS THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN
THE GREATEST CANCER THIS WORLD HAS EVER SEEN. REPUBLICANISM HAS KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN ANY MONARCH OF THE LAST 2000 YEARS.
IT IS THE IDEOLOGY OF DEATH THE SPAWN AND SEED OF SATAN THE ANTI CHRIST.

THE PANCREATOR HESUS IOSIS CHRISTUS IS THE FIRST KING AND ALL EUROPEAN KINGS ARE DESCENDANTS FROM THE HOLY PANCREATOR DO NOT FALL FOR THE SATANIC RUBBLE LIE THAT IS THE UNITED LEFTIST REBELLIOUS STATES OF TREATORMERICA

>Republics bring progress, monarchies only oppressed.
Historical fact says otherwise. Time and time again history has shown that the end of monarchy makes things worse for a country, not better. In France it resulted in the “Reign of Terror” that saw tens of thousands of people get their heads chopped off. In Russia, the loss of the monarchy allowed the Bolsheviks to take power who then created the Soviet Union which spread oppression around the world and murdered millions of people. In China the result was a chaotic period of warlord rule followed by the bloodiest civil war in human history and then a communist dictatorship that took the lives of 60 million people. The end of monarchy in Germany and Austria resulted in divided republics that allowed Adolf Hitler to come to power, devastate the continent and butcher 9 million people. The fall of the Shah of Iran allowed a radical theocracy to take power that has spread terrorism around the world and brutally oppressed its own people. These are only a few of the examples that could be cited and the facts are inarguable.

>>91773281
>monarchy isn't undemocratic, there is tons of democracy!
Thats why its trash. The ultimate form of monarchy is anarcho-capitalism. I am the king of my property!

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Ancap reporting in

>>91770654
>black markets


couple more
*black lives are fecal matter
*black lives are material
*black tantrums matters
*black lives are immaterial
*black lives are commodities

>>91773738
Fake and gay
See:>>91769716

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THREAD THEME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_6AQA4uzD0

>Monarchies must be bad or else there would be more of them!
That argument could only begin to make sense if most monarchies had fallen because of a conscious decision by the whole people to see them end. This has certainly not been the case. Most monarchies have fallen because of brute force exerted by a powerful, motivated minority or because their country was defeated in war and their state collapsed. How about looking at how people live? The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development annually puts out a list of the best countries to live in based on a variety of factors and monarchies invariably outrank republics by far. Last year, 2012, is a typical case with 8 out of the top 10 best countries to live in being monarchies; the only republics to make the top 10 were the United States and Switzerland. If republics are so great, shouldn’t their people be living better lives than those in monarchies?

>Monarchs are so set apart, they cannot represent ordinary people.
Actually, that is precisely why they can represent everyone in a way no politician ever could. President Hollande of France is an agnostic socialist, so how can he truly represent those French who are Catholic or capitalists? President Napolitano of Italy was a long-time communist, which is certainly not representative of most Italians. President Obama of the US, a liberal from Hawaii, cannot have much in common with a conservative from South Carolina. Yet, a monarch, because they are set apart, can represent everyone because they are not from any particular group.

>>91773104
>sterile consuming robots
kek. Especially if you sterilize them, they average would-be abortion would already on the brink of committing a crime as he would currently be raised. This is a terrible idea.

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>>91772842
> go to poor neighborhood
> steal children
> take them 100 miles away
> parents too poor to afford investigators
> even if the community hires investigators, they can't find me because lmao no license plates
> nobody can force me to have license plates because that would violate the nap

No memeing, but the only reason I'm not an ancap is the idea of a community led lynching. If we lived in a anarchic society, Zimmermann and other people would be dead, even if they did nothing wrong

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>>91773281
LOYALISTS LEAVE

REEEEEEEEEEE

>>91773606
Anyone arguing for autocracy in the current year is just a masochist.

>please make me a serf massah

>>91773424
Looks like runaway capitalism to me, which I dig, but doesn't seem they are saying it is utopia to me.

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>>91771105
Sure if you like the tight, spooky cramped apartments of the soviet block buildings just as long as you make ends meet.

Sure if you like being a hippy, not sure how you'd support yourself so long as you find a way not to starve or something.

Sure, if you're an honourable citizen of the Imperia Roma and patriotic too and stuff.

Sure if you got your head in the business 24/7 so that you don't end up in the streets in a society that values money a lot and if you don't mind the SIN chip or something...

>Monarchy is an archaic throwback! It’s simply out of date!
Certainly monarchy is an ancient institution as it developed naturally from the dawn of time and the growth of human civilizations. However, democracy and republicanism is just as archaic. The Greek city-states of ancient times tried direct democracy and found it of very limited value, lasting only so long as people found out they could vote themselves the property of others. Republicanism was tried on a large-scale by the ancient Romans and yet they too found that it caused too many divisions, factions and civil wars before they decided a monarchy was preferable. The oldest republic in the world today was founded in 301 AD. How out of date is that?

>What about cruel monarchs like Nero or Attila the Hun? Surely no benefits could be worth risking leaders like that!
Actually, far more people have been butchered in wars or massacred by those in power since the start of the revolutionary period than in all history previously. Nero or Attila the Hun were unsavory characters but nowhere near as bad as republican monsters like Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Mao Zedong or Pol Pot. It has only been in the post-revolutionary era of mass politics and political ideologies that governments have taken to killing their own people in huge numbers. Nero was cruel to his own family and later persecuted Christians who were still a tiny minority and Attila the Hun, as ruthless as he was toward his enemies, ruled his own people well from what we know and with justice. No monarch ever wiped out as many of their own people as the communist dictators of the Twentieth Century, all of whom did so in the name of “the people” and “fairness”.


>>91774154
>>91773890
>>91773875
>>91773789
>>91773738

LEFTIST HERETICS!!!

FUCK US SHITPOSTERS. DO NOT THINK REPUBLICANISM IS THE ONLY OPTION. DO NOT FALL FOR THE SPAWN OF REBELLION, AS IT SATANIC LUCIFPHERIAN IN ORIGIN.

FREE MASONRY = "ENLIGHTENEMENT" = US REPUBLIC = JEWRY

>>91769716
Now thats what I call a nice political compass

>>91766067
>no God, honor, homeland option
lol, what a fucken disgrace

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what did i do wrong?

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>>91766067
Not sure where I land.
>>91768526

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>>91774378
DO NOT TRUST THE MINTY FRESH JEW

LOYALISTS WILL HANG

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THE COMMUNIST REVOLUTION IS DIRECTLY THE SISTER OF THE FRENCH REVOLUTION !!! US REPUBLICANISM IS THE BROTHER OF COMMUNISM. BOTH THE USSR AND THE USA WORKED TOGETHER TO COLLAPSE EUROPEAN MONARCHIES. MONARCHY IS THE GOVERNMENT OF GOD THE LINE OF THE PANCREATOR. REPUBLICANISM IS THE SEED OF SATAN AND AIMS TO BRING DOWN ORDER AND CREATE REBELLION AND PROMOTE INDIVIDUALISM. DO NOT FALL FOR THEIR LIES. MONARCHY IS A 2000 YEAR OLD EUROPEAN INSTUTITION. THE REASON WHY THE WEST IS COLLAPSING IS DUE TO THE USA FORCING US TO REMOVE OUR CHRISTIAN COLONIES BECAUSE THEY ARE REPUBLICAN LEFTIST THRASH !!! IF WE HAD ENLIGHTENEND MONARCHIST AUTOCRACY REFUGEE CRISIS WOULD NOT EXIST ALL BLESS CHRISTOS SAVIOUR !! !! !! !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48mG6IIfvY4

>>91768606
NO, NOT THIS SHAMEFUL VIEW ON SOCIAL ISSUES!
Regardless of the side someone picks on economic issues, of which I mostly can tolerate either, I'm sure that AUTHORITARIAN = STUPID.

>>91772571
I agree that the true redpill is monarchy but it requires centuries of purification and war, so that only the best families remain. It's not as if you could just re-establishment monarchy today, without significant conflict to remove the corruption left by democracy.

>>91774378
How would monarchy even work when most countries don't even have a heir or the heir isn't making a pretence. Who would even be a legitimate monarch if nobody CAN be a monarch?

>>91774062
>even if the community hires investigators, they can't find me because lmao no license plates.
License plates would be privately produced.
>nobody can force me to have license plates because that would violate the nap.
The dealership would probably see it in their best interest to put license plates on for you.
>Zimmermann and other people would be dead
In an ancap society Zimmerman would be revered as a model police officer by citizens and private police forces and democrats and communists would be physically removed.

>>91772840
Then every nation that exists, has ever existed, or will ever exist is the personification of autism.

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>>91766067

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>>91774873
tfw the only way to bring back monarchy is to allow anarcho capitalism to run its course

>>91770202
What websites were used to put this together?

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>>91766067
R8 me

>>91774895
See: >>91774873
Centuries of war would establish it. Probably not possible considering modern weaponry. However, in a post-apocalyptic world, monarchies would again naturally form. People look up to heroic leaders, especially in tough times.

>>91773424
that's cyberpunk
still the best one

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>>91766067
>when your compass makes you look just like the indecisive centrist faggots you always shit on

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>>91768606
im giving her all shes got captain

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who /Hitler-Lite/ here?

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>>91766067
I'm a degenerate.

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RIGHTWING

>Monarchism

LEFTWING

>Republicanism
USSR (United Soviet Republics !!!!! )))
>United States
Republic !!!

MOST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES ARE STILL MONARCHIES GOD BLESS THEY ONLY NEED TO REGAIN POWER ITS THAT SIMPLE GERMANY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW MONARCHY WORK WE IT'S ALL CONNECTED FAMILY WE CAN SIMPLY GIVE YOU A KING ITS VERY SIMPLE YOU CAN GE BREAT AGAIN BROTHER

ALL REVOLUTIONARIES SHOULD BE SHOTT !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuvEkOF_cJ4

A MUST SEE !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwvjM6kF8VM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwvjM6kF8VM

>>91770202
>Bourgeois Patriot

Fucking laughing my ass off here.

>>91766067
DEUS VULT

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rate

>>91768841
what test?

Dude weed!

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I'm not sure how to feel about this..

>>91775167
So if it's something that occurs naturally, why try to force it then?

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>>91766067
no weeb i promise

>>91766067
Center of the chart reporting in. There's always an exception to the rule.

>>91774929
>>>91774062 (You)
>License plates would be privately produced.
Not what I meant. Noisy
Nobody can force me to keep a license plate on my car
>The dealership would probably see it in their best interest to put license plates on for you.
And I can't just remove it or just destroy the plate's numbers to such an extent that makes it unrecognizable
>In an ancap society Zimmerman would be revered as a model police officer by citizens and private police forces and democrats and communists would be physically removed.
The reason why everybody was against Zimmerman was because the mainstream media needed views to be increased. And so, they started race baiting to keep people hooked into keeping up with the news.

Zimmerman would always be hated as long as there is private ownership of the media. Not an argument that we should make it public, but it's an argument that we shouldn't rely on community led lynching to deliver justice

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>>91768158
BROTHER

>>91776110
GLR/10

>>91775607
Monarchs are focused around bringing the lesser individuals together under a royal elite, forming a communitarian sentiment around the royal family. Thus it is LEFT.

The Right is about individualism, claiming that the monarch who rules like a communist dictator is right is straight fucking bait.

>>91771590
>>91771951
>>91772138
You replied to your own post 3 TIMES! SAD!

>>91773281
>>91773606
>>91773910
>>91774378
Then you repost the same shit!

We know that you are autistic. The truth is that you are a leftist cuck. The ultimate form of monarchy is anarcho-capitalism!

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Do your fucking worst

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>>91777115
What are you even doing in this board?

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>>91766067

These things never go beyond basic theory. Sure I'm center-left, but I also want a supranational monarchy. It assumes elected officials or dictators and not something that is viewed by modern academia as undemocratic.

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Insult & rate pls

>>91777115
>Le Sargon and shoe square

>>91775607
Your infograph was interesting and I saved it cause monarchism is cozy, but you're not doing it much justice.

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>>91769807
Do you think anyone ever bought one of the certificates? Imagine even hanging that shit in the office.

>>91776689
If I were to go along with your game:
>Nobody can force me to keep a license plate on my car/And I can't just remove it or just destroy the plate's numbers to such an extent that makes it unrecognizable?
1) There would be plenty of people whose interest it is for you to have a license plate.
2) The manufacturer or dealer could make it a pain in the ass to take off.
3) Alternatives to license plates could be developed.

Your game is a classic example of trying to debunk anarcho-capitalism with hypotheticals that keep getting more and more ridicules.

>The reason why everybody was against Zimmerman was because the mainstream media needed views to be increased. And so, they started race baiting to keep people hooked into keeping up with the news.
The mainstream media is influenced by communists and the government who wouldn't be problems because the government would be abolished and leftists would be physically removed.

>>91777261
I'm a /his/ commie, I just post lefty shit here to rile people up

>>91768841
this cube mapping sucks.

capitalism is inherently individualistic, transnationalism is inherently collectivist, etc.

>>91778379
Shit its ridiculous, not ridicules. Hopefully the free market can make auto-correct better.

>>91773606
Hi you are right. Traditional Western monarchies had the checks and balances to assure freedom and are preferable to the current systems.

>>91767950
>Libertarian right
>Having roads

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>>91772805
>>91767838
You are both pretty disgusting.

This is my perfect plan. Everything aligns with what i think, the percentages are my favorite numbers and the color is my favorite color.

This represents me flawlessly.

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Literally Hitler shitlord

>>91778591
As a transnationalist individualist who is not a capitalist i disagree.

>>91777115
We must physically remove democrats and communists.

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Stalin did nothing wrong.

>>91778591
Capitalism is only individualistic for the capitalists.

Everybody else is ground into one grey gelatinous mass. Culture, tradition, and identity are stripped away to facilitate the desires of their potential employers.

It's happening right now, as hundreds of languages disappear due to third-world villagers forced to move to crowded, shit-smeared slums in the millions if they want to survive.

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>answer everything in the most "GAS THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW" way possible
>get this

This test is shit

>>91778635
>>91773606
Same flag and they happen to agree with each other. I wonder who is behind this?

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>>91771861
>be me
>seize means of production for hans and friends

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Last time i did this a year ago i was left, same amount down. I guess im ron paul 2004

>>91776288
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism

>So if it's something that occurs naturally, why try to force it then?
To live in a more glorious age.

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all burgers

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>>91768606
Went pretty much same exact route but in the other direction..

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>>91780107

>>91771822
i like it.

>>91773568
What's that weird looking one with the planet in it?

>>91774799
You stand with me. Same results except "-T"

>>91777704
>implying shoe and sargon are literal communists.

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all europeans

>>91766067
Daily reminder youtube's "No. 1 Marxist" supported assaulting Kim Kardashian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FveeVyWwVD8

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end the nation state

>>91780653
hold on.
Put me down at 2 down 6 to the left.
Don't have the picture to upload.

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>>91766067

>>91780808
>just do whatever man.
Anarchists need to go and stay go.

>>91779803
Well, NatSoc is third position so it should be near the center of x axis but you must have answered the authority questions strangely

I'm so sick of seeing SJW mentalities in libertarian left... They are authoritarian left!

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>>91780846

Confederalist

>>91780883
That's a pretty graph, but if you call me a member of the regressive left one more fucking time, i swear to god.

>>91778379
>1) There would be plenty of people whose interest it is for you to have a license plate.
And plenty of people that can fuck the fuck off because I'm not having my location be in a database
>2) The manufacturer or dealer could make it a pain in the ass to take off.
All meaningless after several rounds of duct tape covering it
>3) Alternatives to license plates could be developed.
If there exists a market to have a car with no unique IDs, manufacturers would create cars for those people. The only thing stopping people from doing that is government regulation
>Your game is a classic example of trying to debunk anarcho-capitalism with hypotheticals that keep getting more and more ridicules.
My original claim did not change at all.
"Bad people are going to find ways to do bad things."
>The mainstream media is influenced by communists and the government who wouldn't be problems because the government would be abolished and leftists would be physically removed.
You didn't rebutt my claim at all. It's financially more appealing for any type of media to race bait to increase viewer count. More viewers = more money. Hence it stands that in a perfect free market, the media would control narratives to over hype a particular event. It doesn't even matter if it's race baiting. It could be "Mr. Greenway is a witch." It could be on the air 24/7 for months, with no proof whatsoever.

>>91781130
Sorry, meant to say 5 to the left.

>>91781130
When are all south americans coming?

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If you are to the right of this chart you are retarded and a cuck to the state.

>>91768526
Are you me?

>>91781265
"If you have a basic understanding of economy you are a cuck of the state"

>>91781519
>Says the Brazillian

Hows that protectionist bullshit working out for you huehue?

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>>91781257
when you're 1st world and relevant

>>91781519
Go ahead and tell me why you think lassez-faire capitalism is good for the people. I'll wait.

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>>91781265
frankly I'd still be more likely to trust someone in the purple quarter than anyone in the top half of the chart

>>91781667
> I wanted that
Top kek mate
(Im this fag >>91773738)

>>91781766
Thats a fair point

>>91780414
>tfw i'm the most authoritarian american on this thread
Nice

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Capitalists fuck off.

>>91781842
Free market = Free people

>>91782191
So this is the power of Brazilian education.

>>91781766
7 right and 4 down reporting in on mobile

>>91782191
>No market = No people
woah

>>91782291
No, the power of brazilian education is making all people lefty. I know of two people in the right... How do you think PT wins?

>>91773250

was this made in 2012?

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>>91767838
>>91772805
>>91779412
>>91780808

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>>91782191
You cute, cute little classcuck.

A free market just means more freedom for the moneyed class. The lives of workers are severely restricted under so-called "libertarian" policies.

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R8

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>>91766067

Just bought some stuff from Anti Antifa Gear :^)

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>>91782757
It has the pinochet meme, so it must be more modern than that

>>91783131
>che shirt

lel no thanks

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I want my papacy

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shieeeeeeeeet.

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>>91782897

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>>91783286
woops wong pic

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>>91783301
i'm not a sanders fan

>>91782897
>maximal pensions.
But why.
>super high consumption tax
do you want your economy to stagnate?
>>91783131
>wears a che shirt
>as far center as 3 left 3 down.
GAS
YOURSELF
....
HOLy FUCK that got me mad as hell.
che guevara and most communists are literal mass murderers worse than hitler.

>>91779412
>direct democracy
Into the fucking trash

>>91767551
>actual

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how'd i do?

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>>91781154

>>91781924
>>91782109
>>91783293
Go suck Sargon off you faggots.

>>91782930
The last time i checked India and China weren't libertarian...

>>91783531
>direct democracy
Opposing the will of the intelligent majority are you?

>implying direct democracy means EVERYONE gets to vote.
>implying you wouldn't have testing for literally everything including voting.

>>91783500
Too many old people languish in poverty despite working hard for over 40 years. It's inhumane.

Also consumption needs to drastically be reduced to reduce environmental damage. Re-use and recycle. Not producing useless crap that breaks after 1 year

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>>91783895
> Implying i'm even subscribed to Mesopotamian Beard Man.

>>91783916
India and China have practically zero restrictions on foreign businesses, because their governments rely entirely on this investment. In China, as long as you pay the government the bribes they need, you can do whatever the fuck you want to your Chinese workers.

Do you honestly believe that even looser labor laws would improve the miserable lives of the masses of those countries?

>>91783895
sargon is a boring shitty liberal

>>91783947
>implying direct democracy isn't everyone voting on everything
Common people don't know the good of trade deals and foreign affairs. There's a reason we all have a form of Republic since it keeps the retards out of the important things.

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>>91768606
Looks like this

>>91784001
The first thing:
a) you have private pension funds.
b) you and i both have universal basic income
that would apply to old people too i assume
and i don't see how they should get any more than the working age people if they haven't set up a private fund for it.

>>91784336
>implying common people can't be educated to see that shit
>implying people who don't know enough about economy would get to vote.

>>91781198
>"Bad people are going to find ways to do bad things."
That is true, but the market will find ways to counter evil. That was the point. Do I have an answer every little thing that could possibly happen? No. The point is that the market can make necessary adjustments. For example, to deal with you putting duck tape over your license plate, a for-hire police officer hired by the road company can pull you over. Whatever the problem is, the market can sort it out.

>You didn't rebutt my claim at all. It's financially more appealing for any type of media to race bait to increase viewer count.
I did rebut your claim. You physically remove democrats and communists and race baiting goes with them.
>More viewers = more money. Hence it stands that in a perfect free market, the media would control narratives to over hype a particular event.
Thats why websites like Breitbard, Drudge, and Infowars are doing so well. People realize the media is lying and there is a demand for an alternative.

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What do you think /pol/?

>>91784729
overweight edgelord

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>>91782930
>mfw 50 years ago those peoplw were starving in huts
>mfw you are looking at the first phases of the industrial revolution and he first accumulation of wealth in a peoples entire history
>mfw 50 years from now their descendents will be engineers and living in houses
>mfw you blame the market for the very poverty the market is finally raising them from

Fucking amazing.

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>>91782017

Washington for Emeperor

>>91766067
Proud Chilean here :D
I'm liberal conservatism

>>91784626
>b) you and i both have universal basic income
>that would apply to old people too i assume

I assumed the basic income covered workers, and the basic pension covered retirees. I'd prefer to scrap wage labour entirely (see the Venus Project) but that's not an option

>>91780451
I love you iceland icelandson.

>>91768526
>turbulent
GET A LOAD OF THIS BETA LAPPEN

SOMETHING HURTING YOUR FEE FEES?

EVEN MY GF GOT ASSERTIVE

>>91785365
the venus project is a bit too rose tinted glass-y


Also, i would raise the working age to infinity.
which i could afford, because all that science money would be poured into longevity research.

I think it's a pretty neat way to escape the whole cross generation contract thing.

And about consumption:
The thing is that a general consumption tax targets not only environmentally harmful things, it targets all sorts of things like foods technology and services.
Also, consumption has to be made more sustainable, but that's what the pretty damn high environmental subsidies are for.

>>91785365
>get $20K basic income
This can go 2 ways:

1) Since everyone (all workers or all poor people or whoever) gets $20K the landlord jacks up rent and the grocery store jacks prices and so on and so forth. Then people want $40K and the same thing happens. Then people want price controls. Then businesses go under. Then the government nationalizes the economy (communism).

2) Spend $20K on crack, hookers, and Drake.

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mmh i'm too leftist /pol/?

>>91784626
>implying people wouldn't just vote ignorantly
Expecting people to be educated is prone to failure, look at what's happening when we have universal suffrage. Democracy is only good when used in a stance of republics. That way, people vote in people who know what they are doing, then those people vote on behalf of the people but with education and proper insight.

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>>91766067

>open images
>democrats and repbulicans are authoritarian right
>closes image and immediately disregards any opinion OP has on any issue

>>91785051
Anon, these people were born poor and will die poor. Their rural ancestors probably had even more access to food, because their lives were directly died to agriculture.

The good thing about capitalist industrialization is that it does give a minority of the people some method of social mobility, but at the same time locks the vast majority in their destitution. Without any substantial labor protections, the people have no more means of becoming wealthier than their peasant grandparents. Invariably, a free market economy leads to wages dropping to the barest minimum workers can be paid without starving to death. In countries with populations as massive as India, companies can even sometimes afford starving workers, because there will always be more hungry brown children to take over if one dies.

How can the descendant of sweatshop workers become an engineer if he has to leave school at age 12 to join the factory?

The West didn't transition to a service economy organically. Industrial workers and their unions lobbied hard for better wages, which allowed them to get an education and seek work in more humane industries. But when workers are powerless, as in India and in China, there's no hope for this to happen. And when countries like India have populations of poor people growing far too fast for the economy to provide for, per capita income actually decreases, as the poor overwhelmingly outnumber everybody else.

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>>91780414

>>91784687
>>>91781198 (You)
>That is true, but the market will find ways to counter evil.
And once more, there is going to be a free market to evil. And evil, assuming no government intervention, is going to out weigh justice because evil just needs to exist for it to be profitable. Justice is not always profitable. And justice is also limited because you would not have the tools created by the government. (Regulation on license plates, for example)
>I did rebut your claim. You physically remove
democrats and communists and race baiting goes with them.
Where, in my original claim do you see party affiliation? This is a phenomena that exists throughout humanity. Fear creates a response that nets viewers. You could see the same thing with right wing news channels like "The war on Christianity"
>Thats why websites like Breitbard, Drudge, and Infowars are doing so well. People realize the media is lying and there is a demand for an alternative.
Honestly, that's just a huge meme. Look at any news channel, and they far out match infowars and Drudge.

>>91786168
>Expecting people to be educated is prone to failure,
if they are not they don't get to vote simple as that.

>That way, people vote in people who know what they are doing, then those people vote on behalf of the people but with education and proper insight.
this literally opens the floodgates of corruption though, since the voters have no direct control over what ends up happening and it's easier to buy off 100 politicians than 200 000 000 people.

>>91785904
>Also, i would raise the working age to infinity.
>which i could afford, because all that science money would be poured into longevity research.

Maybe. If work was enjoyable and less intensive I'm sure many old people could work. William Morris had some great ideas regarding work and play.

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Happy Thursgay.

>>91787353
what's with all the roided up goons? no nice slim blue eyed blondes?

>>91786726
>Justice is not always profitable. And justice is also limited because you would not have the tools created by the government.
Justice isn't always profitable because justice is controlled by the state, which in of itself is evil.
>Where, in my original claim do you see party affiliation? This is a phenomena that exists throughout humanity. Fear creates a response that nets viewers. You could see the same thing with right wing news channels like "The war on Christianity"
Race baiting is an explicitly leftist phenomena. You might see "war on Christianity" type stuff, but most of the people pushing that are low-iq public school educated southerners.
>Look at any news channel, and they far out match infowars and Drudge.
The point is that alt. media is growing. It is a market answer to the media's bias.

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>>91766067

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is it bad? i tried going for national socialism :/

>>91786092
>Then people want price controls. Then businesses go under. Then the government nationalizes the economy (communism)
>implying price controls of any sort are communism
they're not.
>implying that changing an absolute value will change the relative value dependent market economy.

if you raise the minimum income everyone receives to 20k, the poorest people will have 20k more to spend, but the richest will still have ~500k to spend, the 20k aren't going to make much difference.
Yes the prices would be raised but only marginally, as the bulk of the economic buying potential will not come from 10% of the populace earning 20k more per year, but the other 90% who earn a median of ~50k or so a year.

>>91787179
>Maybe. If work was enjoyable and less intensive I'm sure many old people could work.
Also, the cost increase from unemployment benefits to guaranteed minimum income was so high that i couldn't just assume it still meant only working age people.
And if it did, well fuck them they'll now have to share their income with the elderly.

Although to be honest now that i reexamine it....
Hm.
let me try this again.

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Took it a few years ago, but I don't feel it's a very good indicator, though. I'm probably slightly more to the left and more pragmatic than this would indicate.

Freedom rules, but we need roads, regulations to prevent private monopolies, environmental regulations, consumer rights, etc. Children are not their parent's property, they are individuals with rights of their own. Lolbertarians and ancaps doesn't seem to understand simple shit like this.

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>>91787498
Fuck You

>>91787179
though actually.. no.
The whole idea of pensions doesn't make any sense when you're planning for a populace of potentially infinite lifespans with infinite working years thanks to minduploads and whatnot which could be a reality rather sooner than later.

And until it isn't, i guess the unemployed will have to subside on a proportionally lower income as a larger part of the population (elderly people) will be unemployed.
Unemployment benefits are not designed to make you live like a king anyway as is the case in a lot of places.
Food being a state financed thing you'll always have enough to eat.
So the only thing the minimum income is for is to never ever have to worry about a roof above your head, and to get clothes and basic consumer electronics to be able to participate in modern life as often as a person needs to replace those things, but that's it.

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ignore

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Pinochet did nothing wrong.

>>91788382
So if prices increase then the people in the middle will have less purchasing power and thus more people will qualify for UBI thus having an even bigger pool of people the top can raise prices on.

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>>91766067
I don't know how to feel about this...

I identify as right wing. I do value art highly and consistently said it was just as important as industry maybe that pushed me down to the left. I also had a nagging feeling I would be too strongly upper right, so I had a bais to answers that push me lower and to the left.

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That compass is shit m8

>>91766067

send help again you fuckers, we have neo-communism now

>>91788506
>MUH ROADS!
>MUH MONOPOLIES!
The state creates monopolies
>MUH ENVIRONMENT!
Property rights and tort law were more effective than the EPA.
>MUH CONSUMER RIGHTS!
Consumer protections from fraud would still exist.
>MUH CHILDREN ARE INDIVIDUALS W/ RIGHTS!
So it's Billy's individual right to fuck a black drug dealer and snort crack because its his right.

>>91783895
hey, we're not with this guy >>91782109

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>>91786595

>slowly forming a triskelion

metro for the pure race

>>91790105
>if prices increase then the people in the middle will have less purchasing power and thus more people will qualify for UBI thus having an even bigger pool of people the top can raise prices on.
You are painting the price increase as a colossal huge thing.
They won't increase that much, since
a) The basic minimum income will only be enough to afford the most basic things without doing some reeeeally clever saving.
So if the corporations increase their prices they will be making less of a profit than before
b) Even in the whole simplified supply and demand scheme, you wouldn't have a price increase to the double, because the purchasing power would not rise to the double.
10% of people having 10k more income (because 20k is frankly ludicrous) is a minimal increase when compared to 90% having a median of 50k.

This the prices would only be increasing a tiny bit if at all.
Granted, that increase might hurt the middle class, but they would be benefiting from the food, healthcare and education subsidies, and from most social programs being aimed at them, while the highest profit gains (corporate and capital) would be more heavily taxed to finance it.
Leaving the superrich with a considerably fewer millions in income, but still considerably more than they would need to maintain and even grow their empires of wealth.

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>>91767838
Posting. I believe in nationalism with freedom.

>>91770648

wtf i love monarchy now