Treaty of Trianon

>almost as severely as Germany

You're joking right? Relatively speaking Hungary was punished FAR worse.

Other than the Hungarians in Vojvodina and the Székelys it's a fairly reasonable division based on predominant language.

>>91699543
I think it started around 1848. Hungary was part of the Habsburg empire then, Transylvania was Hungarian clay. The problem was that the number of Romanians rapidly increased there over the centuries, and they slowly became the majority. When Hungary rebelled against the Habsburgs in 1848, they promised the Romanians more rights if they turn against Hungary, and they did so. Needless to say that the Habsburgs did not keep their promise, and in 1867, the Habsburg Empire was transformed into the Austro-Hungarian monarchy. Unfortunately, the demands for more rights of the Romanians in Transylvania were mostly ignored. In WW1, Romania wanted to annex Transylvania, made a secret deal with the Entente, and entered the war in 1916. After some initial successes, they were annihilated by the combined German and Austro-Hungarian counter-offensive, and signed the treaty of Bucharest. Austria-Hungary at this time was fighting on two fronts: in Italy and against czarist Russia. The Russians got raped by the Jewish-incited communist coup, but unfortunately, a similar thing happened to Hungary, a count called Mihály Károlyi took power, and being a delusional pacifist (or cunning agent of the Entente, depending on who you ask), he essentially disbanded the Hungarian part of the army, then gave power to Jewish communists, who had to fight a civil war against the nationalists (whites) with their newly formed, ragtag militia called the "Red Army" (the Hungarian version). Romania saw an opportunity and invaded Hungary, basically without resistance, then in 1920, Transylvania officially became theirs with the treaty of Trianon.

tl;dr Turáni átok

>>91699767
What you dont understand is that the hungarians basicaly bought culture and civilisation to the romanians and instead of them being gratefull for that they joined the entente and stabbed us in the back

>>91699543

All those lost territories were either non-Magyar or recently Magyarized. Hungary was leading aggressive genocide campaigns against groups like Slovaks and Romanians.

Furthermore, there's more Romanian people in Transylvania than people in all Hungary. If Trianon were reversed, Humgarians would be a minority in their own country.

So the situation really is fine as it is.

>>91699670

To be fair, Austria-Hungary, not Germany, started the war.

>>91700487
>us
Go home nigger

>>91699543
>Worse
Nah, Germany lost territory that was mostly full of Germans, whereas Hungary's lost territories weren't mostly full of Hungarians.

>>91700262
This is what you actually believe? Lol.
They took transilvania from us while we were busy fighting the roaches. In 1918 we got our clay back rightfully.

>>91701004
go die gypsy

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>>91700487
The only thing they brought was an inbred royal family.

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>>91699543

This map looks like a pizza slice and makes me Hungary

>>91699543
Yes, the jews (kun bela and his friends) overtook our country just after the first ww. (this was the second commuinst system in the world) They didn't let our soldiers fight against the romanians slovaks and serbs and terrorized the hungarians in every possibe way.

>>91701100
Kill yourself vermin. No one asked you to create a drama thread, we have enought as it is. But no, hurr durr Hungary- Romania, gotta get people assblasted. Fuck off and die you son of a whore, history is done whether you like it or not. If you would have done a discussion thread, so be it, but the only reason you're here is to create drama, troll, waste space. Hang yourself you filthy rotten worm-filled depraved lost poisonous retarded sperm cell. FUCK YOU AND YOUR WHOLE FAMILY, HANG YOURSELVES.

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>>91701418

>filthy rotten worm-filled depraved lost poisonous retarded sperm cell.

Sounds like a quote straight out of Mihai Eminescu's books.

>>91701386

>be subhuman communist mongrol
>lead communist revolution
>ruin home country because muh workers
>get kicked out because everyone hates you
>move to the USSR to avoid getting executed for being a faggot
>Stalin purges you anyway

GO back to mongolia and give us our land back.

>>91701418
Stupid little romanian cunt tell me how many women did you rape and how many wires did you steal just today?

>>91701862
literally a non-county, go home upper hungary

>>91702065
pack your shit a go back to the mountains in mongol land with your disguting language (gypsy language)

>>91701004
Transylvania was never under romanian occupation before trianon.

t. ottoman vassal radu gyponescu

>>91700654
The only territories germany lost that were full of germans were Danzig and Elsaß.
In the polish territories germans were a minority
You're mixing it up with WW2

>>91702406
Tell me what makes you a real nation without own language (czech) culture (hun) and history(hun)?

>>91702807
>Alsace-Lorraine
>German
FUCKING KEKING AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA

German partition best day of my life fucking Germs

>>91700487
You have to go back.

>>91703145
I didn't say anything about Lothringen

>>91699543
It was revised in the past before WW2, and got back some clay temporarily - mainly that were inhabited by Hungarians. After the war, however, it was reverted back to the state of Trianon, well not entirely but that's beside the point.

Why are romanians such useless subhumans? Even here in Ukraine you are considered worse than scum, and we try to purge your gypsy asses.

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>>91700527
3 million Romanians got 102.000 km2 and
10 million Hungarian got 93.000 km2 from the land of Hungary after trianon. and You say it was fair, ok...

Trianon was disgusting,
Hopefully, there will be justice one day

>>91703033
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

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We could fairly claim way more lands added to the ones we had before Trianon.

>>91699543
>almost as severely as Germany!
MORE severely
germany didn't lose 2/3 of its territory.

It happened because with hungary being wealthy and modern at the turn of the century it could have become a global player in its own right.
People in general didn't want that.

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>>91700527
>non-Magyar or recently Magyarized. Hungary was leading aggressive genocide campaigns against groups like Slovaks and Romanians.
This is outright false though.
I mean a simple blatant lie.
Look up any actual historical facts and not "some book by some romanian/slovakian author" as a reference.
Magyarization was a social pressure and trend, at least as much as mildly coercive policy.
People wanted to be magyars because of the perceived flashy-ness and wealth of the magyars.
>there's more Romanian people in Transylvania than people in all Hungary.
LOL

>So the situation really is fine as it is.
Székelyfüld was hungarian majority for 1000 years and still is. Still was given to romania because [?????]

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>>91708105
thats impressively correct

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>>91708363

this one is golden, based ruskie utterly btfo romanians

>>91706213
Wow that actually made me think

>>91699543
hungary got off lightly

lucky they are still a country, dirty thieves

>>91701418
>history is done whether you like it or not.
Just a friendly reminder that history was done before you got our territory.
History is never "done".
There are just finished and new chapters.
Giving full autonomy to a territory that has had a majority of a different culture for the past 1000 years is the only logical action to take.
Israel knew this, which is why they had offered palestinians the same multiple times. And it always failed because of global interest in keeping the conflict prolonged and oil prices high.
Apart from this slight problem, Hungary and Romania don't need to be enemies. Certainly our greatest thinkers weren't.

>>91708497
Please explain your viewpoint eternal anglo.

>>91708430
>>91706213
You should have put austria there. After all they were the ones who legitimately started the war and dragged hungary (who was still without their own military decisionmaking rights) into it.

And they GOT territory.

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>>91708424
BASED
A
S
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>>91708236

What do all you propose be done with Transylvania then. Return to Hungary? In that case what do you do with the now 80+% Romanian population?

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>>91709502
easy there, you gonna feel the wrath of the USA of the Balkans

>>91709479
Yes, They have to go back to Wallachia and Moldavia.

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>>91709749
The town rapist will come for us

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>>91710089

Noone sane in Hungary gives a shit about muh triathlon anymore besides the eternal memeing about it, which is the domain of 14 year old edgelords.

We'd be royally fucked if we'd have to take care the broke ass bearfuckers from Romania, Ukraine and Serbia. Maybe only the Slovaks are on par/slightly richer than us.

Székely cunts need to start behaving like civilized humans and cohabitate with Romanians instead of being eternally buttmad about something that's ancient history.

Romanians should be genocided and their stolen clay returned to us, hungary and bulgaria

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>>91712221
Soon

>>91701004
Austria and Russia liberate all of you from the Roaches, so it's our clay.

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>>91711424

>>91714146
>>91712221
No.
Don't be dicks.
This kind of faggotry doesn't move your cause forward in the 21st century.

>>91711424
>Székely cunts need to start behaving like civilized humans and cohabitate with Romanians instead of being eternally buttmad about something that's ancient history.
You get budapest annexed by i dunno russians, and get prohibited from managing your stuff in hungarian, and denied autonomy for 100 years and then you be "not buttmad".

Fucks sake man have a tiny bit of empathy.

>>91711424
Dávid pls!

>>91716668
>This kind of faggotry doesn't move your cause forward in the 21st century.
Yes it fucking do, genocide all romanians, recolonise empty land, plain and simple. Also genocide all gypsies here at home, and move people from cities back to villages, so cities become less crowded again, and people would be moved out of tenements. The most I could offer for the fragile soul of hippies like you, to just deport these people, with all their property and valuables taken away.

>>91717342
>kill people
>force your will on people you didn't kill
>if you're too much of a pussy to kill people we could just steal everything they have

you talk like a fucking nigger.

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>>91701386
this is a lie obviously

the fought against the invaders with what they had after the previous governments disbanded the army

meanwhile, traitor horthy was sitting tight with his personal army snipping tea

so much for being a hazafi

>>91717453
Romanians are animals, same as niggers, they can only be treated as animals. Those are our lands, nothing to argue here, we would have no benefit from allowing them to stay after we get back OUR lands.

How did you think we gained these lands in the first place, kisses and hugs? The only way to get and keep lands is blood and iron.

>>91717795
youd be the first to dodge draft if anything was to happen, you díszhuszár

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>>91717599
>Listen fellow goy, it wasn't the jews.

>>91718146
We never know until there is a draft. But would not change anything on principle, those are hungarian lands, the resources there are our birthright, that were stolen from us, all people live here could live in a comfortable houses, with huge gardens if we would have those lands again. We would expand again, in lot of free space people would have children again, with all the natural resources in those mountains economy would boom again, considering automation we could just live off on those raw materials from there, and the food and geothermal + hydro energy here, and trade the excess food globally while sitting on our asses and prosper, that land is both part of our past and future, we have to get it all back, and some more land as vengance.

It was the Austros who dragged Germany into war, not the opposite. Considering what happened to Germany afterwards they arguably got less than what they deserved.

If you look at the ethnic distribution pre-war you'll see that all those territories are full of non-Hungarians, apart from Szekely

>>91717795
>Romanians are animals, same as niggers, they can only be treated as animals.
Factually incorrect.
>Those are our lands, nothing to argue here,
They were taken from us by conquest. We were a conquered nation and the conquerors redistributed our land.
Now it's true, that they violated international conventions and human rights, by taking a majority hungarian territory and subjugating them to an oppressive rule, and in a modern world any such territory needs autonomy, but this is not accomplished by lunatic threats about genocide or deportation of the populace.
>staying on OUR land
As dozens of nationalities have done since the first days of the hungarian kingdom, which catapulted us to be one of the centers of the renaissance and lead to us being praised as the country who have invented the 20th century by the NYT.
>How did you think we gained these lands in the first place, kisses and hugs?
Yes. Essentially yes.
The legends talk about us having bought these lands, and the historical records essentially support this.
When the hungarians settled here they were employed as mercenaries by greater moravia, and once that place collapsed, we simply took over administration of this region. The amount of conquest done was limited to the Balaton Principality, and even there it was more formal than anything, since the state it belonged to was dissolving, and hungary was the new stable power in the region, and much of the slavic political system remained in place.

This is and has always been the way we operated throughout history.
The "magyarization" the slovaks and the romanians whine so much about, was, going by actual academic research instead of just propaganda, mainly a cultural trend and to a lesser extent coercion.
It was chique to be magyar, because we were prosperous, and enlightened.
This is how we could best exert influence throughout history and how we SHOULD exert influence in the future.
(compare 1848, 1956 (blood/iron) to 1867, 2010(political))

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>>91719069
shh.... the balkan anons are arguing.

>>91699543
Except for a small part that went to Romania there were no Hungarians living in the Trianon'd part, it was Hungaries neighbours uncucking themselves actually.

>>91718724
>and some more land as vengance.
this makes you simply insane.

If you do vengeance the others will also claim vengeance and vengeance us right back.
And while you may just say that we have to stay strong and capable of defending ourselves, I'd like to remind you how many times we were strong but were backstabbed into oblivion.

So unless you want to fuel an endless cycle of vengeance and death, you should not propose such things.

>>91719788
>So unless you want to fuel an endless cycle of vengeance and death, you should not propose such things.
And that is where you are wrong, all future wars should be fought to the extermination of the other side, or pushing them into ever smaller territory to please the hippies, where the defeated people would just eventually starve to death.

White races may trade, maybe the japs and koreans too, and continue to trade their inventions and resources for mutual benefits, may even unite into a global nation to colonise space, if only similar minded and genetics people left. But there is no need to keep the lesser races alive, with the double digit IQ-s, their hormone filled rage, excessive breeding habits, they cannot contribute, and only draining the resourcs of their betters, and are only alive now out of the mercy of white nations, the scheming of jews, and because there is no agreement over who would get their territories yet.

>>91719704
>>91719069
-Székelyföld however, is a pretty big territory, and they had been a somewhat hungarian culture of their own for a 1000 years and continue to persist.
It was also about as large a territory compared to the size of hungary which hitler started the second world war over.

-Then there's also the fact that half of the territory given to Slovakia was absolutely hungarian majority. To a lesser extent about 20% of that territory still is.

-The territory given to Austria is laughable as it is, since they were on our side, and were more initiators of the war than hungary was in both of the 2 world wars, and yet they gained territory which was taken away from us.

-Croatia was given some territory, but they had been independent for some of their history, and had always been great allies to hungary, and have continued to not mistreat the hungarian minority in croatia. The territory they have been given apart from Rijeka was mostly Croat anyway.

-Slovenia much the same.

-Ukraine also didn't mistreat the hungarians living there, but treated them with respect. The territory they had been given was mostly ukrainian anyway.

-Serbia is and was fucked anyway, so we can't really say anything about them.

See, the point is not that we're bitching about lost territory.

The point is that we're complaining about lost territory that was
-majority hungarian at the time
-and went to someone who was on our side
-and the people of which were mistreated by the new government

>>91701004

Romania didn't fight roaches.

Romania was and still is fighting its own gypsy autism.

>>91699543
That's what they get for trusting an Austrian.
How many times must history repeat itself?

>>91711424
Yeah dude.. it's 21st century. Time for everybody to move on and forget lost clay.

Much worse than Trianon to Hungary (and my land) was communism. It totally destroyed much of the common sense and morals.

>>91706213

How the hell was this allowed?

Now the UN member countries don't even consider splitting up Iraq, but Hungary was split up without resistance.

Maybe Woodrow Wilson feared Hungary.

Maybe Wilson wanted to Balkanize Hungary. With smaller countries, it is less likely they will unify. This is what the Democrats do to America now, they split up everyone. Wilson was a Democrat.

>>91699543
Jews were overwhelmingly pro-Habsburg and pro-German because as opposed to Entente, allied with Russian Empire(where pogroms happened every few years) they gave their resident jews citizenship and didn't treat them as 2nd class subjects.

>>91720505
>>91720505
>And that is where you are wrong, all future wars should be fought to the extermination of the other side, or pushing them into ever smaller territory to please the hippies, where the defeated people would just eventually starve to death.
Do you seriously think that people have not aimed for this is the past?
a) we're all humans whether you like it or not. What differs is ideologies. Killing people over what they believe is not conductive to the well being of the human species.
b) this is impossible to succeed in , because of the resources needed for such a thing, and because you can push someone to flee, but not push someone to just give up on their lives

>if only similar minded and genetics people left.
Mindedness can change you imbecile. We are not hardprogrammed automatons.
And genetical differences between races, much less between countries are not big enough to warrant the discrimination against, much less the extermination of groups of people.

>But there is no need to keep the lesser races alive, with the double digit IQ-s
These are distributions. Some have higher IQs than most 'whites', some whites have lower than most blacks.
And i know for a fact that you don't even care about this, because you said "MAYBE the japs too" who objectively have a higher average IQ.
>hormone filled rage
they are only as hormone filled as your impotent rage to genocide, or starve entire populations based on not arguments, but your personal us-vs-them feelings.
>excessive breeding habits
correlate only with income and wealth, not with race.
http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_and_the_magic_washing_machine?language=en

>they cannot contribute,
But they already did. If you google black scientists and inventors you'll find a lot.

>and only draining the resourcs of their betters,
We don't live in resource competition in the 21st century you uneducated person you.

>scheming of jews
Who have higher average IQ than avg. whites. Are they your betters?

No hard feelings Lászlós, I love Hungary and its people, but your language is the most disgusting tongue known to human (both written and spoken form)

>>91721308
>Maybe Woodrow Wilson feared Hungary.
>Maybe Wilson wanted to Balkanize Hungary. With smaller countries, it is less likely they will unify. This is what the Democrats do to America now, they split up everyone. Wilson was a Democrat.

This is basically an open secret at this point.

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>>91721471
>And genetical differences between races, much less between countries are not big enough to warrant the discrimination against, much less the extermination of groups of people.
bullshit, see pic.

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>>91721471
>Who have higher average IQ than avg.
bullshit, see pic.

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>>91721471
>Some have higher IQs than most 'whites', some whites have lower than most blacks.
Too rare to be relevant, see pic.

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>>91721558
>but your language is the most disgusting tongue known to human (both written and spoken form)
Well... it's very similar to finnish, and tolkien based elvish off of finnish.
Also it's a phonetic writing system for the most part as opposed to english for example.
French and other latin languages are really pretty, but their internal logic is at least as bad as that of Hungarian.

No offense to your slavic languages, but i have no idea how you can consider something that's exclusively consonants to be even comprehensible.

>>91721785
You have genetic distances between populations, that does not mean that their abilities are influenced by these.

>>91721869
bullshit, see pic.

>>91722022
-You switched the argument. We were arguing specifically about IQ not SAT scores.
-Also, income is not the only thing affecting intelligence. The community you grow up in and your parents intelligence also affects intelligence.
-Also that table does not show that there is no significant overlap between the intelligences of whites and blacks. Which there is.

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>>91721471
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>>91722269
>>91722022
>Also that table does not show that there is no significant overlap between the intelligences of whites and blacks. Which there is.


>>91722328
Cranial capacity does not necessarily correlate with intelligence.

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>>91722692
Their top 10% reach or average white intelligence, irrelevant... 90% of them are shit.
Plus making the false arguement that they are stupid because they are poor, but in reality their countries are poor because 90% of their people are stupid.

And you implying that anyone under IQ 100 should be allowed to breed. Our stupids need to be weeded out as well.

>>91721308
he probably didnt even know where it was

great powers didnt care as long as the little entente promised to keep austria and hungary in check
there were far worse plans proposed, along with that shit slav corridor

greed+incompetence=injustice

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>>91721471
>Who have higher average IQ than avg. whites. Are they your betters?
Jews are born evil and insane, me wanting to genocide them is humane compared to the shit they have in plan for the rest of humanity. They are actively trying to wipe out white race, and enslave the rest. You are not connecting links, you write about the Jew York Times praising hungarian renesaince and multiculturalism, just before we are about to get the biggest backstabbing in history. Jews are evil and vile, they may have raised their IQ with selective breeding, but if we would do too, we would reach 140-150 average.

>>91721558
Nie je taký hrozný, keď sa naučíš, a maďarská poézia je medzi najlepšími na svete

>>91721471
>And i know for a fact that you don't even care about this, because you said "MAYBE the japs too" who objectively have a higher average IQ.
That is precisely the part that shows you I do care about IQ, why else do you think I picked japs and koreans (south) as maybe let them live? Their high IQ, and the tech companies they manage, they are contributing, and have 5000year+ history (only maybe leave them alive, because I am not sure how would they react with all china freeing up next to them, they may try to wipe whites out out of ambition, and lower IQ, though differences are slight with them). I did not put in chinese and vietnamese because they are commies, and indonesians because they are muslims, as long as they stick to those ideologies not even high IQ can redeem them.

>>91723158
If 90% of them are shit for being below average white intelligence, 50% of whites are shit as well.

>Plus making the false arguement that they are stupid because they are poor, but in reality their countries are poor because 90% of their people are stupid.
a) i neither made such an argument
b) that is untrue, there is no straightforward causation either way.

>And you implying that anyone under IQ 100 should be allowed to breed. Our stupids need to be weeded out as well.
IQ isn't as hereditary as you think.
It is also a faulty system as a whole and i say that with a 142 IQ.

That is also a fucking blatant false quotation.

>>91723659
>Jews are born evil and insane, me wanting to genocide them is humane compared to the shit they have in plan for the rest of humanity.
Being jewish is a religion not a fucking race.
You are not "born" jewish except in a religious administrative sense.

You are making the same mistake the nazis do you utter fucking idiot.
You are confusing the GFE for the Jews.

>Oh but actually pinpointing the GFE and then trying to bring them down is difficult---
>So let's just point at a demographic they may to a large extent be a part of but whose members are no better off than i am, so that things seem easier.
You intellectually lazy fucking cunt.

>Jew York Times
You do realize that the NYT wasn't the same back then as it is now?

>they're better because they were cheeeating but i BET IF WE TRIED IT WE WOULD BE BETTER THAN THEM
>literal masturbatory fantasies.
Go Fuck Yourself.

>>91724495
>why else do you think I picked japs and koreans (south) as maybe let them live?
I don't know, but if you really cared about IQ and not just about your retarded "everyone who isn't like me should die" then you would've said the japs are allowed to trade and maybe we'll let the whites live as well..

They are objectively better than the whites.

>>91724622
>They are objectively better than the whites.
The nukes that whites invented first beg to differ.

>rub hands together
>yet another successful thread

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>>91724505
Jews are a race by genetics too, just heavily mixed. They even have genetics testing before allowing anyone the right of return to Israel. Know your jews...

>>91724792
>we invented one thing first 70 years ago
HAH WE'RE BETTER THAN THEM

>>91724950
>They even have genetics testing before allowing anyone the right of return to Israel. Know your jews...
But that's wrong senpai.

>>91718724
Take your pills.
and remember that suicide is always an option

>>91724828
This :g
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>>91725239
>and remember that suicide is always an option
I hope you don't forget that.

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>>91725041
>we invented one thing first 70 years ago
>HAH WE'RE BETTER THAN THEM
And when anglos blow them the fuck out with guns earlier.

>But that's wrong senpai.
Nope, see pic.

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>>91725041

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>>91725041
Soros is not religous, yet every jew considers him a jew too.

>>91706213
Alsace is French. They just retook it after 1870.

>>91725239
I apologize on behalf of my fellow compatriot. I hope he won't be this fucking deluded once he grows up or gets an education.

>>91725440
>>91725239
Let's not encourage people to suicide shall we?

>>91725660
>might makes right
You're an evolutionary relic that belongs about 10000 years in the past.

>>91725660
>>91725828
>>91724950
>quote
>taking single quotes from possibly deranged individuals to show that an entire religion/race/culture deserves extermination
(protip: This is the same the regressives are doing with quoting nazi cucks like you. they make the entire white race / all christians / all europeans seem bad, by pointing at a few fucks who want to destroy and murder their way through civilization)

>>91725943
>Bringing in a quote from an insane person
That is low dude.
You're not supposed to mock retarded people, they can't help it.

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>>91725041
Rumors about US nationalising the Federal Reserve out of the several decade long jewish leadership, 911 oops, totally not evil control freak parasites, don't forget every new FED leader are jewish undisturbed ever since.

>>91700487
>us
AUSSCHAFFEN

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>>91726120
>taking single quotes from possibly deranged individuals
They really seem like rare occurances, except that several million of their supporters out of a race that is only 16 million strong worldwide.

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This just happened.

>>91724505
>there is no straightforward causation either way

Wrong, stupid. The USA and Australia are both proof that given the same conditions whiteys countries end up better than anyone else's. Look at Brazil and Mexico to see what happens when mongrels try to act on whitey's systems.

Also, how do you think Europe got so much safer and more advanced? Magic? Or your a "gun germs and steel" cuck who hasn't realized nearly every assertion it makes is false. Zebras are every bit as ride-able as horses and the black death casts extreme doubt on the germs argument. Tech is, amazingly, a product of the people and not the land, stupid.

>Being jewish is a religion not a fucking race.

Is that why Israel idea DNA tests, retard? Semitic Jews are a race.

>It is also a faulty system as a whole and i say that with a 142 IQ.

That must be why it's a better predictor of success than both race AND class.

I highly doubt someone this stupid has a 142 iq. Lurk more, faggot

>>91726204
And don't forget that they also provably coordinated attacks that disrupted the peace process between israel and palestine costing a lot of jews their lives, and preventing a peaceful life for a lot of jews ooops.

Also don't forget that among the GFE are a lot of people who are not actually jewish ooops.

You are LITERALLY in every way like the feminists blaming men for every bad thing they have to endure.
Or the BLM people blaming white people.
Not because it's always men/white people responsible, no it's also women/black people.
But they are too fucking stupid to differentiate any more than that, and can't be assed to differentiate based on anything but the most superficial bullshit.

Fuck off you anti intellectual piece of shit.

>>91726569
wat XD

>>91726609
Israel does*

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>>91699543
Inb4 gypsy romulans with their 100000000bc clay

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>>91726697
Tyson is crypto-Vlach, now takes power in his homeland.

>>91721308
Wilson wanted to reform Austria-Hungary as a union of nation states like the US, but gave up because fr*nce wanted to weaken down Germany and all of its allies.Its all fr*nce's fault

>>91711424
Go away slomó

>>91726609
>tech progress
That was not what we were arguing about.
We were arguing about whether being better off causes intelligence or whether intelligence causes you to be better off.
The answer is both.
It's an egg or chicken thing.

>>91726609
>Is that why Israel idea DNA tests, retard?
Still no idea where you get this bullshit from.
>semitic jews
Yeah expect the cunt i was replying to didn't make that distinction.

>>91726609
>That must be why it's a better predictor of success than both race AND class.
>Yes it's also a better predictor of success than your fucking starsigh.
You can't take shit predictions, then have a marginally better one and thus herald this one as the thing everyone should be judged by.

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>>91726615
>muh anti kiketelectual, try harder

>>91719608
Gyurcsány what are you doing here?

Kek, I love seeing bozgors so amazingly pissed off about trianon and romanians. We stole your clay and now you're irrelevant because you've got nothing worth stealing anymore.

>>91727107
Its funny cause you are as butthurt as us about Trianon and more insecure about it even

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>>91726615
>lalalalala, no goy no jews scheming

>>91727107
Everyone in Europe hates you, the constant betraying/switching sides when your allies are losing will destroy gypsyland sooner or later.

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>>91726615
You are the one namecalling, yet comparing me to an SJW.

>>91724505
>muh high iq
Yeah sure and you also have a 99 inch dick

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>>91726615
Everything that jews touch gets corrupted.

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It was the way to go. Only the central part - modern Hungary had Hungarian majority

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>>91726615
And jews try to corrupt everyone.

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>>91727057
>anti intellectual is now anti kike
>intellectualism is a kike thing
fuck off

>>91727099
Well you know. If you are trying to defend shooting your political opponents you might consider to "sweep on your own porch first".

>>91728255
>it's da joos man

>>91699543
hungarian/romanian is the best rivalry

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proud of my hungarian brethren in this thread.

also
>slovakian history can be written on a post-it note

>romanians are subhuman guttertrash

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>>91728066
you wot mate?

>>91728624
You're proving my point

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>>91728276
But Gyurcsány is a jew, or crypto jew, shabbos goy or something on that line. Unelected piece of shit who ended up cheating a second term for himself.

The word intellectual lost it's meaning the same way as progressive, and pretty much refers to degeneracy.

>>91727425
>no jews scheming.
I did not say that.
Learn to read please.
I said that while the majority of the global financial elite may be jews, the majority of jews are not the GFE, and there are some people in the GFE that are not jews, and the GFE certainly don't put the interests of jews above their own financial interests.

>>91727731
I only called you a retard when you were saying things and calling for things that would be damaging without presenting any arguments at all.

>>91727814
I only felt it necessary to point that out to not be accused of disliking the IQ intelligence measuring system because i scored low.
I do not really care whether i score high or not, because as i said in the post you replied to i stated that it is a SHIT system.

>>91728255
>bringing up Higschool Musical
>with an almost exclusively white cast.
GFY

>>91728066
That is false.

>>91728255
>conveniently ignoring all the MSM that isn't owned by jews and is still spouting the same propaganda.

You are seeing for an easy target, and you think that because people in the past have identified this demographic as a target before, you are somehow more correct.
You're not.
You're still failing to bring up literally any sort of argument why your generalization to "all jews are bad" is somehow acceptable, but you at the same time manage to make yourself but also our entire agenda of not leaving trianon rest in piece look like the ramblings of a complete uneducated lunatic with indiscriminate hatred towards entire racial groups which is mostly hormonal and not fact based.
So yea, you're making us look bad.
Unless of course you're a progressive shill, and this is your goal.

>>91728894
Not really.
Look at Southern Slovakia for example. Those were still purely Hungarian territories.

>>91699543
Croatia, if I recall correctly, was in personal union with Hungary for like ever so they could have separated on termas that both sides agreed upon plus it had history of thier own states and there was plans to make them equal part of CK monarchy.
Nothern Vojvodina and Southern Slovakia was given to Czechs and Serbs only becouse thier agriculture. But rest of those regions were hardly Hungarian.
Burgenland... Why exaclly was the point of this transition? Was it becouse Austrians wanted few more kilometer of clay away from former commies? Maybe. Dunno.
Now, the toughest part. Transylvania. On the one hand Hunargians lived there and Székelysare oppresed. On the other hand Romanians were majority and win the war. Both sides are right I thnik...

I conclusion: Hunagians should stop be butthurt so much (Look at Austria, they were almost equally fucked), Slovaks and Romanias should stop to be WE WUZ tier delusional about past and evryone should accept that nor Trianon nor Kingdom of Hungary had fair borders, WWII ones were preatty good IMHO.

>>91729026
It has Slovakian majority

>>91728953
>But Gyurcsány is a jew, or crypto jew, shabbos goy or something on that line.
These are baseless accusations. Especially after he is known to get the catholic confirmation ceremony (bérmálkozás) "every now and then" as he put it.
>Unelected piece of shit who ended up cheating a second term for himself.
And this is completely unrelated to the first point.

A relevant statement might have been that he and his policies were backed by the globalist agenda and people behind the IMF like Soros & co.

>The word intellectual lost it's meaning the same way as progressive, and pretty much refers to degeneracy.
No.
Maybe to fucking retards be they neonazi shitstains or regressive cultural marxists.

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>>91728894
Then why not a borderline similar to this?
There still are 90%+ Hungarian populated areas right next to our borders.

>>91729216
See >>91729322

>>91729216
Are you blind?
Southern slovakia had and to a lesser extent still has slovakian majority.
Same with Székelyföld in northeastern romania

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>>91729322
>Vojvodina
maybe but you weren't in a position to give demands
>Transylvanian part
agreed
>Ruthenian part
No, Ruthenians are closer to Slovaks
>Burgerland
you'd get Germans so no
>Prekmurje
you'd get Slovenes so no

It sure looks crazy but I think the deal was pretty reasonable

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>>91729287
>So yea, you're making us look bad.
Or making the white countries like us more, I never get any better replies when we hate our common enemies together (muslims, jews, niggers). There is no better way to bond together than to have common enemies, and bond based on shared hatered of our enemies.

Only a few jews, and jew sympathisers ever complain, and it is especially bothering when it comes out of my own country.

>>91729862
>Ruthenia
I understand that however if were to cut in half the Carpathians were to become Czechoslovak without any means to protect it as all the infrastructure was linked the southern Hungarian parts. It might have taken decades to link it to a new system properly and with such population densities and little strategic value it might not even worth it. It is a change a of convenience. This was the reason Hungary annexed those parts in '39.
>Burgerland
kek
>Burgenland
Austria was the one who started the war, it doesn't make sense that they should receive any territories. Funnily Burgenland and similar slice on the Austrian side were originally promised to Yugoslavia (Serbia) before the end of the war to completely contain any/all possible Hungarian or Austrian aggression or reunification.

>>91729862
Are you fucking insane though.
The orange parts are parts where hungarians were majority.
MAJORITY.
If you wanted to take away any territory where foreigners resided you could just have dissolved hungary altogether.

>>91729982
>Or making the white countries like us more,
No.
No one anywhere around the world is as fucking retarded as you are.
And yeah, pointing to an outside group and hating them together (even when that hate is largely baseless) is a thing dumb people like to do, because it takes the least intellectual effort.
Again the whole us-vs-them mentality is a base animal instinct.
In other words when you spout shit like this and bond with other idiots about how well you can hate people that are not "like you" in some way, you're behaving like animals.
This is why hitler could be so successful, because he appealed to base animal behaviors in people.

Meanwhile civilized people try to find out what it is that actually presents a danger to them and try to eradicate those ideologies from people.
Not by eradicating other human beings, but by reforming them.
This is the basis for any cooperation, because even within your own hatemovements you can find people to disagree with over major things, since nothing apart from hatred binds you together.

In other words people who don't act like animals and actually try to bond together to work against the ideas threatening what they believe is good instead of just trying to murder anyone who they deem is not part of their group will achieve better cooperation, and thus a better civilization.


tl;dr
You act like fucking animals.
Like the niggers you hate so much.
Exactly like them
Oversimplifying things and hating things indiscriminately because you don't have to think much to do that, and thinking is hard.

>>91699543
The superior people claimed the land just like in America, indians owned the land but they were stupid so anglos came and now they own it, dont cry like a faggot come and take it if you can,but you cant, in a 1v1 war you know romania would destroy hungary

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>>91731059
>superior people
You have surrendered twice during the war. Congrats Übermesch!

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>>91726003
You misspelled "Elsaß"

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>>91700527
>was leading aggressive genocide campaigns against groups like Slovaks and Romanians
DONT FORGET THE 6 GRILLIONS!!! faggot
why dont you just go fuck yourself with your lies fucking jew

>>91699543
its not going to be revised, but there might be a union happening in the future with the countries involved, if or when the EU eventually falls.
The Carpathian Republic perhaps?

>>91731396
>everyone i don't like must be a member of [hated outside group]
Congrats, now instead of him looking like a jackass for not knowing history, you both look like idiots.

>>91731523
All for it.
Although even if it isn't revised, székelföld needs autonomy. There's no way around that. A huge frikkin part of a nation where an ethnic group has lived for 1000+ years.... Without any special strategic importance....
Yea...

>>91731059
They give it to you! You didn't win it.

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>>91731523
Intermarium all the way.
>>91731738
Still with the autonomy shit. Speak fucking English. Traditions are important but you have to realize it's currentyear.

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>>91729322

>>91731738
the szekelis are fine. Its just a bunch of old people crying every now and then because they entered a shop and the staff didnt speak hungarian

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>>91730762
I am not stupid by any means, lower than your claimed 142IQ, mine is only 126, but why would I overcomplicate things, when life is so short, the struggle between races have been going on for thousands of years, whites always come out on top, and now the peaceful ways that will actually kill us. Letting in migrants, that outbreed us in our countries, hijack our democracies, and when on top they will revert to their animal instincts, and there is differences between diffence between different animals instinct, and they are different animals. My pic showed that nigger are further from us than nigger from apes. There is diffence in all species/subspecies, some are just worse, there is difference between bees and wasps, one build colonies, other kills indiscriminately, there is diffence between bees and bees, some bees are just nigger bees that kill indiscriminately too. There is nothing wrong in hating something that would kill you and your offsprings off, it is called self preservation, and it is the highest instinct in any living things.

>>91699543
Objectively speaking some territorial losses were justified, however it was too severe, fucked up the industry of the whole region (railroads, etc were planned with Austria-Hungary in mind), and the Hungarian territorial claim's didn't help the regions stability. The Entente powers intended Romania and the new states of Czechslovakia, Yugoslavia to be a buffer state against Russians/Germans, but it failed.

If we would have been allowed to keep our borders during WW2, nobody would be butthurt about it, but even during the communist era there were some issues about the treatment of Hungarian minorities in our neighboring countries (muh internationalism).

The treaty we signed after WW2 which restored the status quo (minus six villages for Czechslovakia) had a clause which stated that it can't be revised, so there needs to be some happening for a border change.

>>91731879
That state is too big tho. What does Lithuania have in common with Bulgaria?
It's going to be v4+ Romania and Croatia at best. Culturally we're all pretty similar, in all context. There is the problem of religion, but then again its 20xx

>>91703242
Why not? Most territories in France like Britany or Corsica were not even remotely French until they genocided them. France doesn't recognize its indigenous minorities to this very day.

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>>91731738
>not understanding the memetic of this board
The thing you sad to me can be applied to you just as easily how you applied to me.Calling me an idiot because I corrected someone aggressively, is just like that I sad to the guy that he is a jew because he didn't know shit about fuck.
So why dont you just go fuck yourself with that logic?

>>91732580
Occitan it's official in Spain and not in France where it was the mayor language in southern France until 1900's

>>91731879
>Still with the autonomy shit. Speak fucking English. Traditions are important but you have to realize it's currentyear.
I don't understand on what level of irony you operate.

>omg you with your traditions man.. it's [currentyear]
Is literally a way to paint liberals as ignorant cunts, because it's so obvious that this is not an argument.

Also, yes, autonomy, because nationalities need independence, otherwise a union of nationstates will not work.
There is also literally no reason why romania should be against it.


>>91732025
>IQ
IQ doesn't determine intelligence accurately.
>but why would I overcomplicate things, when life is so short,
BECAUSE life is so short.
You wouldn't want to waste any energy on fighting a cause that accomplishes nothing and may in fact hurt you.

>struggle between the races.
But this is false. This is the same kind of oversimplification marxists use for their struggle of the classes thing. These are retarded. You are watching history through a skewed lens if you are trying t see racial struggles everywhere.

>Letting in migrants, [etc]
These are bad things and i am by no means advocating to just let them happen but
>and there is differences between diffence between different animals instinct, and they are different animals
This is super super super weak and you know it.
"Yeah i might act like a total fucking animal, but they act like the worse animal!"
If you start acting like animals too you have ZERO rational basis to claim superiority apart from "muh feelings"

>My pic showed that nigger are further from us than nigger from apes
What. No it didn't. Chimpanzees were 1.600 away from all races, and the differences between the races were in the region of 0.200

>other kills indiscriminately,
again this bullshit.
No, wasps aren't just savage killers killing indiscriminately.
And no humans are one species, with extremely small variance

>self preservation
Others will claim this if you try to murder them for shit they didn't do.

>>91732242
I'd actually support that. Regarding religion, the lack of it in most of countries (Czechia is fedora-tier and Hungary is not really religious either, and I have the same feeling about Slovakia) is a bigger problem than coexistence between Christian denominations, which was possible btw in the Duchy of Transylvania when it was an independent state.

>>91732784
>not understanding the memetic of this board
>pretending to be retarded to fit in
This has always just been a vocal 30% minority on this board.
Although, yes. Yes you're right i am taking things way too seriously.

Bozgor vs Gypsy is the best thing pol has got.

>>91733421
You don't find it boring? It's the same shit over and over and over again, no exceptions

>>91732841
If you want to build a new nation you have to build it on a common language. America couldn't have stayed the strong union it is today if each and every state were to choose their own language. Now I understand that most of America was unsettled land back then and thus it was easier to build cohesion in this new country however the principals are the same, a common language, equal rights before the law and a common military are the eternal pillars that you can build a new nation upon.

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>>91709822
THIS

>>91734034
I'm sure that several millions of citizens are going to leave their homes just because a guy decided to be autistic on /pol/

>>91733928
Go back behind the Urals!

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>>91734206
Peasants aren't citizens.

>>91734284
Can it gypsy, let me give you a history lesson...
Repeat ad infinitum.

>>91734206
There was a joke during the late '90s in Hungary that we should arm all gypsyes and send them to attack Romania. If they were to win, we regain Transylvania. If they were to lose, we rid ourselves of the gypsies. Either way it's a win-win.

>>91733928
I can confirm. I've been here for several years now. Its the same shit in every thread about Romania and Hungary. I often cba to click these threads anymore because I already known what's gonna be posted

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>>91734284
But Earth is actually spherical. We were always behind Urals.

>>91734534
Implying they wouldnt just sell the weapons and equipment and go on with their lives.
I will expect a sense of duty from any people on this Earth, but not from gypsies.

>>91700487
>us

Fucking disgusting.

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>>91727057

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>>91734500
>>91734722
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trianon was just
god bless
everyone should be happy

>slovaks wanted to join czechia (or russia)
>romanians wanted to join romania
>hungarians wanted a nation state

>>91734915
This doesn't disprove anything

They are still assblastedly over represented, Ivan

You have actually strengthened the argument with your nitpicking. Way to go

>>91734015
I don't agree with that.
There can be multi lingual nations, just like the Austro-Hungarian empire was.

That should have been the proto united states of europe.

>>91734561
>different animals
We are not different species however.
>we are not past killing all potential threats either.
Yes we are.
This is why i considered you to be acting like an animal. This is the fundamental disagreement. You don't think we're past that but everyone else thinks we are.
Everyone else thinks we're past taking small things by force and fucking shit up we don't like, and niggers disagree with that.

>but they will always be worse savages than we are
With a mentality like yours that "everything is permissible no matter how savage, you are no different from them. The fact that you would kill people "more humanely" is an irrelevant distinction, as that isn't what makes killing people a savage act.
It's the irrevocable not undoable ending of a human beings life that makes it a savage thing to do. Everything else is just semantics.

>but we are better at murdering than they are,
This means that you want to give the future of the globe to the better murderers.
That makes you an enemy of civilization and a threat.
You should be murdered methinks.
Right?
Did i do it right?

You are a fucking savage.
Had you grown up in a muslim majority country you would, with this emotional nonlogical mentality be one of the savage ISIL fucks.
They think the same about you. They are better at murdering, so they shall inherit the earth and stop out our inferior culture.

If you act just like they do how are you any better than them?
>inb4 huuurrrrr because i'm [my race] and not [their race]
They could bring the same argument

>some people are just better
Some people, but not "some ethnic groups".

>bioweapons, or chemical weapons, or even droned or artillery shelled to death is better than being torn apart by an angry mob of niggers
No. No it is not. They think what they're doing is better.

>>91699543
also to anwer your question
>Coud the Treaty be revised in the future?
0% chance

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>>91735673
>We are not different species however.

>>91735673
>Austria-Hungary
How long did it last? How did it end up?
No cohesion, no nation, that simple.
To put it simply, in times of trouble all nationalities would rebel without any concern of their current host nation as each holds cohesion within their own tribe. This was a major problem in the Austro-Hungarian military as national pride was regarded as a bad thing therefore resulting in a somewhat low general moral.

Hungary must get southern Slovakia, northern Vojvodina, authonomy in Transylvania and all. Other pre-Trianon lands jf Hungary don't have a big Hungarian population.

>>91736334
why?
hungarians are fine here

>>91734561
In other words you cannot argue from the inherent superiority of your culture and that you DESERVE to be the victor no matter how savage you are.
Because such things are not rationally justifiable.
They come from the same emotional hormonal source where niggers get their "hormonal rage" from.

Either you present clear rational arguments, or your views are to be dismissed with extreme prejudice. Not because you're white or black or muslim or christian, but because we live in a world based on rational laws.

The only thing you have argued thus far in support of your "we should kill everyone that isn't us" is "because i feel like it".
>you FEEL like you're superior to them, factually you aren't and not all "white people" are either,
>you FEEL like you should be allowed to do anything because your goal is righteous, but the ISIL people think the same about their goals
>you FEEL like a certain group as a whole is responsible for something, because it's easier to do an US-vs-THEM and discriminate against obvious traits, than to actually honestly examine who presents a danger to you and who doesn't
>you FEEL like your type of murdering the enemies is far better than their type, but both of them end with the unnecessary deaths of human beings
>you FEEL like people are born they way they are but scientific evidence points almost exclusively to a mix of upbringing and wealth as the causes
>you FEEL like you could easily do some genociding, but historical evidence points towards this not being feasible
>you FEEL like genocide of someone with marginally different characteristics would solve your problems, but evidence points towards people in these cases finding other characteristics to discriminate against.

The entire thing is about your feelings disregarding actual facts.
This in my eyes makes you the scum of the earth.
Only i don't advocate genociding you, because i know for a fact that people can be educated.

>>91734987
>nation state
>hungarian majority abroad

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>>91735673
>The fact that you would kill people "more humanely" is an irrelevant distinction
So it does not matter to you whether ot not you feel your bones breaking, your skin and muschles being cut, the fire burning your flesh, while a mob laughs at you or slowly falling asleep from an artificially created virus or chemical feeling no pain/minor pain, or dying in a split second in an explosion?

>>91736585
But they don't have majority here.

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wew lad, some people are going all out in this thread

>>91736124
>60000 years of evolution
and constant cross breeding.
>wolves & dogs
You are forgetting that those are literally biologically different species.
Meanwhile dogs, who have radically different breeds, are still one species.
Also speciation can occur in much shorted timeframes too. It also depends on life expectancy, the distances between each subsequent generation and geographical separation.

>>91736265
>How long did it last? How did it end up?
That's because someone started a war over bullshit.
And it doesn't mean we should just give up.
I mean all empires fell sooner or later, look at the English.
>within their own tribe.
>tribe sociology
Oh my god can't yo fucking leave this bullshit be.
Humans are not tribal and haven't been since 2000 years ago in Europe.
It's a matter of building a new common identity instead of suppressing it for political agendas like europe is doing, not about abolishing individual identity.

>>91736667
>So it does not matter to you whether ot not you feel your bones breaking, your skin and muschles being cut, the fire burning your flesh, while a mob laughs at you or slowly falling asleep from an artificially created virus or chemical feeling no pain/minor pain, or dying in a split second in an explosion?
To mankind as a whole it does not.
Both things accomplish the same thing, the irreversible removal of a unique human consciousness from the world and the suffering of the individual is irrelevant as they will be dead within minutes anyway, with no way to remember their suffering.

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>>91736587
>because i know for a fact that people can be educated
hahahahahaha

>>91737500
Well maybe you can't.

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>>91736587
>you FEEL like people are born they way they are but scientific evidence points almost exclusively to a mix of upbringing and wealth as the causes
Bullshit, see pic.

>Only i don't advocate genociding you, because i know for a fact that people can be educated.
Try tp convince me, with actual arguements, and statistics, instead of:
>I think all people are equal, because you FEEL like they are.
>Killing a threat to me and you is immoral, ,because you FEEL like it.
>Stereotypes are not true, because you FEEL they aren't.
>You FEEL like genociding an ethnicity is not feasable, because noone have done it well yet
>You FEEL like some group of people are redeemable, because a few of them better than their average
>You FEEL like moral relativity can lead anywhere but chaos or standstill and inaction

My "feelings" are caused by facts, your feeling have no backing presented.

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>>91737706
nice comeback lad

>>91699543
>>91736334

Why does it even fucking matter?

We sit here and talk about culture , while we dress according to american fashion , listen to american music, speak english, have to follow their rules/laws and /we they consider to be "a good liberal society" otherwise coup d'etat , all of thise while being swarmed by african and middle eastern migrants .

the european culture is dead , don't lie to yourself , dressing "Traditionally" ,meaning european is considered almost "exotic" in almost every european country. Our culture is encased and reserved for display for celebrations and/or events , much like items in a museum. Meanwhile we're still fighting like retards between each other while greater empires keep us in line.

>>91699543
>complain about being a part of Austria for nearly 500 years
>bitch about losing extra national possessions
Ironing.jpg

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>>91737706
Hint, it is not the upbringing, intelligence is genetics.

>>91699543
Habsburg 2.0 baby. I've been saying this for years.

The Visegrád Group of 4 is a good start. Soon Austrian, Croatia and Slovenia will join. Then all it needs is a figurehead monarch and it'll be set.

>>91700487
Hungolian detected. Go back to your steppes you filthy savage.

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>>91735370
>They are still assblastedly over represented, Ivan

No, they aren't. They are "overrepresented" because Jews founded Hollywood. You can't blame Spielberg for being the head of his own company.

>>91737780
>see pic
>General unrelated infograph about blacks
Again, since you're apparently unable to understand the first time around
>you FEEL like people are born they way they are but scientific evidence points almost exclusively to a mix of upbringing and wealth as the causes

>I think all people are equal,
But i don't. I don't think everyone is equal. You have to make a judgement on individuals to determine who is what.

>Killing a threat to me and you is immoral, because you FEEL like it.
But i don't. But again, you should carefully examine what is and what isn't a threat instead of ... "hmm there are jews among the threatening people soo... GAS THE KIKES!"
Because that's the same as "hmm there are men among those who keep females down, so ---KILL ALL MEN!" and "hmmm whites owned slaves, so..... PAY REPARATIONS FUCK WHITE PEOPLE!"

>Stereotypes are not true, because
they never are.
The aren't true, because it's literally impossible to make a broadly generalizing statement that applies to everyone and isn't about the thing that you're generalizing about.
Also, you are making a claim that "this generalization is true" you have to prove it. The burden of proof is on you. The one disagreeing with the majority of people.
>You FEEL like genociding an ethnicity is not feasible, because noone have done it well yet
That is not a feeling, that is rational extrapolation from historical facts.
>You FEEL like some group of people are redeemable, because a few of them better than their average
Because factually some have already been redeemed. So your claim that the entirety of that group of people is irredeemable is already refuted.
>You FEEL like moral relativity can lead anywhere but chaos or standstill and inaction
I'm a moral objectivist.
Being irrational in a rational world is morally wrong.
You are being irrational.

>>91738432
>only 4 iq points difference
>probably small sample size
>old studies
>reanalysis by SOME GUY
Give me an actual peer reviewed study.

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>>91739033
>Give me an actual peer reviewed study.
Peer reviews are only come for jewish/corporate approved studies.

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>>91739033
>you should carefully examine what is and what isn't a threat instead of ... "hmm there are jews among the threatening people soo... GAS THE KIKES!"
Because that's the same as "hmm there are men among those who keep females down, so ---KILL ALL MEN!" and "hmmm whites owned slaves, so..... PAY REPARATIONS FUCK WHITE PEOPLE!"
But nigger warlords sold niggers to jewish slave traders that brought them to America, and whites owned slaves for the shortest time in history, and freed them the first.
And present day, Soros and other kikes funding Black Lives Matter and other radical black groups that demand reparations, which niggers were already given by affirmative action and welfare multiple times, even though they could have just been deported justifiably.

And jews did the brainwashing of women, from womens sufferage movement to modern day feminism.

Reparation demands and feminism are literally two problems that whites only have to face because of the kikes.

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>>91739033
>>91740143

>>91739510
>>91739510
>>91739510
>reviews that scientists agree on are all jewish
present proof or silence yourself you fool.

>>91740143
>and whites owned slaves for the shortest time in history, and freed them the first.
correct
>to jewish slave traders
incorrect because implied exclusivity
>and whites owned slaves for the shortest time in history, and freed them the first.
correct

>>91740143
>Soros [...] funding Black Lives Matter
correct
>and other kikes
incorrect as soros isn't really a jew, and the others funding the regressive left aren't all jews either.

>demand reparations, which niggers were already given by affirmative action and welfare multiple times,
correct

>they could have just been deported justifiably.
incorrect, as after the slaves had been freed and became citizens there was no reason to violate their human rights to free movement within the USA

>>91740143
>And jews did the brainwashing of women, from womens sufferage movement
Absolutely historically incorrect.
>THE JEWS
Does not exist. individuals exist.
Superwealthy individuals are controlling the world and doing all sorts of bad shit to further their economic interests. However these have nothing to do with being jewish.
A lot of them are, because of only the jews being allowed banking roles by their religion they accumulated a lot of old wealth, and a knack for financial success. They are thus disproportionately represented in the Global Financial Elite, but they are not the only ones there, and not all jews are the GFE.
It is also incorrect that the suffrage movement was started by outside influences.
>modern day feminism
correct, in that the GFE and their type of globalists in general support third wave feminism, because it involves a cultural restructuring of western europe leading to an economically exploitable crisis.

>>91740303
>cherrypicking
>an extremists favorite weapon.

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>>91736587
>you FEEL like you could easily do some genociding, but historical evidence points towards this not being feasible
Hitler's germany beg to differ, he brough germany out of debt, and made germany an economic superpower in a few years, just by starting to lock up the jews. Other jews had to rile up the entire west and the Soviet Union, the turks, the chinks, indians and african niggers to bring National Socialist Germany down. And NatSoc Germany achieved it's success just by cutting out jews from banking and politics. And it was the jews that cost them/us the first world war, they shut down german munition factories at the time germany was about to overwhelm the allies, and jews lead a communist revolt there as well. And marxism is a jewish ideology. Whites have plenty of reasons to hate jews, there are more misery comes from the jews than the rest of the world combined.

>>91739033
>>91739510
>>91741295

Here's a peer reviewed study by Dr. Phillipe Rushton.

http://www.sciencedirect.com.lib-e2.lib.ttu.edu/science/article/pii/S0191886907003716

>>91741313
>Hitler's germany beg to differ,
He failed miserably.
>he brough germany out of debt
That's false.
He indebted germany so sky high that the second world war had to be started earlier than he wanted, because otherwise he would've had to default on all his debts. Have you literally never learned any history?
>made germany an economic superpower in a few years
Germany was an economic superpower before that which is why he could use the sentiment of "we're great and yet no one appreciates our greatness" to get elected in the first place.
The one thing he did at the price of colossal debt was building infrastructure and war industry.
>just by starting to lock up the jews
Blatantly and vehemently a lie.
He didn't start to lock up jews, or economically hinder jews in the first years whatsoever. The only thing he did was social policy, with the occasional boycott of jewish shops. This turned into actual physical arrests and violence on the Reichspogromnacht.
He also secretly cooperated with a lot of businessmen, among which were many jewish ones, to build up his weapon production.
Great britain in particular was selling key resources for weapon production to germany right up until the literal day the World War started.
>jews had to rile up the entire west and the Soviet Union,
This is a blatant neonazi powerfantsy and never happened. The communists detested the jews. Hitler just put them all under one blanket, because people (like you apparently) were too dumb to actually think and having one common group of enemies was easier than distinguishing people, and arguing why you are fighting two groups who were enemies.
>the turks,
Had little to do with jews, and certainly no love for them and definitely no problem with genocide as they proved with armenia. They were however trying to prove that they were still a superpower. (which they were not, so i'm surprised you included them)
the chinks, indians and african niggers to bring National Socialist Germany down

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>>91741295
>THE JEWS
>Does not exist. individuals exist.
You bring individualism to an extreme, if you think by this standard than why are you even upset about Trianon, since hungarians does not exist, individuals exist, and romanians did not take our lands individuals took our lands.

>>91741889
Link: ID and password is needed to see it.

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>>91741295
>Superwealthy individuals are controlling the world and doing all sorts of bad shit to further their economic interests. However these have nothing to do with being jewish.

>>91741313
>the chinks,
Were controlled by communists, and were literally rogue as fuck.
>indians
Not relevant in the war, but sure is nice to bring every group you hate under one hat isn't it?
>and african niggers
Were vassal states of the British empire, or indebted to them, or hitler tried directly invading them. But sure "it was the jeeeewwws"uo, retarded decisions and the fact that the war was started too soon, because hitler ran out of debt he could take on.

And also nice to see that you conveniently forgot other nations which were against hitler and at least resisted him without any jewish influence. Like France, Hungary, Poland, Sweden, and Finland.

>And NatSoc Germany achieved it's success just by cutting out jews from banking and politics.
Just outright false. A lot of jews and the GFE were totally fine with hitler and profiteered from his war efforts.

Your moronic focus on "it was the jeeews" is quite frankly laughable and you're acting like a ratarded child throwing a hissy fit when he doesn't succeed and blaming someone else.

>And marxism is a jewish ideology.
Also outright false. Marx was christian.

>Whites have plenty of reasons to hate jews,
No.
Whites and people in general (including jews and blacks) have plenty of reason to hate the Global Financial Elite.
But some people like you are literally too dumb to comprehend that there are smaller distinctions that "race", so you mix in a religion with racial groups (jews are made up of different races) and blame an entire group for the misdeeds of a few, and even for things they had nothing to do with, but it's convenient for you because you don't have to think much if everything is the jew's fault.

>>91742265
>Trianon, since hungarians does not exist, individuals exist, and romanians did not take our lands individuals took our lands.
Because it pains to see me that individuals who i share some cultural heritage with are being mistreated by not having autonomy over a region with their culture.

>>91742868
Try this one

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.540.9319&rep=rep1&type=pdf

>>91743141
Yes you can post content that others created for you to spout without thinking really well, you're a great follower.

If you'll take the tremendous effort to actually switch on your brain for a second, you'll notice that i explained why so many (ALTHOUGH NOT ALL) of the GFE are jewish.
And you would also see that focusing on them being jewish is like
>AMERICAN POLITICS HAVE BEEN CONTROLLED FOR 300 years by WHITE MEN!!!!
>VOTE OBAMA/HILLARY!!!!!!

Instead of realizing that the politics have been controlled by the same small industrial cabal, and thus hillary and obama were shit choices as well.

>>91743323
This works, thanks!

>>91743222
What is GFE? I know you wrote this a lot, but I have no idea what it is, and was busy replying to other parts of your replies.

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>>91743222
>Marx was christian.
MegaBullshit, see pic.

>>91743730
Nevermind, you wrote it out later in the same reply.

>>91743323
That's nice, but the abstract they were trying to prove had nothing to do with what was being said. It was said that IQ was hereditary.

This does not mean that intelligence in general is hereditary as IQ is a bad signifier.
This also still only means that 80% of the IQ difference might be heritable.


>>91743884
His father wasn't jewish and neither was his mother.
You utter piece of shit.
>>91743730
>i have been talking about the Global Financial Elite in literally every single one of my posts.
>this guy is too busy shitposting cherrypicked or faulty infographs unrelated to what i say to even ask what it is
>despite him not knowing the whole time
>and thus being unable to understand the main point of my posts
>for 3 hours.
GFE=Global Financial Elite.

You utter piece of shit i'm done arguing with you.
If you don't care enough to even read my comments then i won't run my mouth dry for nothing
Fuck off g'day.
Hope you vote Vona so that islam can save the world.
Or are arrested for hatespeech at a neonazi rally.


>yeah me murdering people because i like to generalize and i don't like them based on little to no evidence is fine
>if black people do the same they are fucking savages and just prove that they need to be genocided asap

go fuck yourself.

>>91699543
Anyone else click on this because they though it was one of the jew pictures?

>>91743141
riddle me this, do all of those individuals failed at their jobs ? you're implying they got their jobs, power and influence not because they were skilled but rather by Nepotism.

unless you can prove that you are simply whining that those Jews are better than you.
also the same pic appear twice with different spelling.
one of the only good things Bib done is hiring Fischer as governor of the Bank of Israel, he did a good job.

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>>91741295
>as after the slaves had been freed and became citizens there was no reason to violate their human rights to free movement within the USA
I guess you like anchorbabies too. Some random spics wanders in, shit out a kid, and then claims welfare for the rest of their lives. Arguements like yours ruin any claim we may still have to reverse Trianon, since the best arguement we have, is that we allowed these foreign people to live on our land, than they bred a lot, and decided that it is not our land anymore and chased us out. By your arguement the sandniggers that wondered in from the middle east to Europe are europeans now, and can breed freely, use welfare, take over the country, implement sharia, gangrape your mother and daughter, than behead you because you drank a beer in the past. Or maybe the nigerian basketball team that visits should be permanent resident too. No. Slaves in their homelands were people, in the USA they were property, the moment they ceased being property, they were people of their former nations again, so they should have no claim whatsoever for any benefits or right to live on US soil.

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>>91745349
Their results are so terrible, that simply sucking at their job is out of the question, what they did is sabotage and treason.

>>91724471
Neide o to čo je napísané v tej básni ale ako znie, či?

>>91745474
>any claim we may still have to reverse Trianon
Are you fucking retarded?
Hold on we already found out that you were.

Yeah so real slowly so you understand.
We
Can't
Reverse
Trianon.

There is just no hope for that and if you think there is you should probably get out of the basement more.

What we can do is challenge it and the other signatory countries based on human rights and international law. And the basis of that is that the majority in certain regions was and in some places still is hungarian or at least "not romanian/slovak/etc"...

>By your arguement
>strawmanstrawmanstraaaawmaaaan, strawman
No fuck you. Learn you read you motherfucking animal.
If someone has lived in a place for generations (like the blacks had)
And all were freed, because of their contributions to the economy and out of reparations for them having been enslaved, and thus gotten citizenship.
Then it would be wrong to deport them

>>91745927
>>91745349
Have to agree with him there.
The fed is a shitstain.

>>91729216
it doesnt doe
the didnt leave after ww2 ;(
their numbers are declining

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>>91746151
>And all were freed, because of their contributions to the economy and out of reparations for them having been enslaved, and thus gotten citizenship.
What fucking contribution, picking cotton? Because whites could not live without cotton, without cotton, good heavens, not like the people there had furs and leather to keep warm.

>>91699543
they took our gold.

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>>91744564
>i have been talking about the Global Financial Elite in literally every single one of my posts.
You have been writing about a lot of things, and I mainly challanged you on racial intelligence, ethics and politics. And one could get your context without that single acronym.

>>91746797
>What fucking contribution, picking cotton?
Yes.
Why do you think the south wanted to keep owning slaves?
Not because they were all fucking bigoted racists like you apparently are.
They had actual economic reasons.
The sudden freeing of the slaves like the north demanded would have wrecked the southern economy and the north could free them all and demand that the south free them precisely because of economic reasons.
The civil war was mostly about economics not about one being bad evil racists and the other nice liberals.

>>91747057
>And one could get your context without that single acronym.
No.
And you have conveniently ignored everything else, which would have undermined your narrative of this being a purely racial issue, so you could continue posting your reductionist racial propaganda pictures.

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>>91745349

Nepotism among Jews has been well-documented for centuries.

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>>91746151
>We Can't Reverse Trianon.
Yes we can, future is not written in stone, Russians get pissed on romania, bomb the shit out of their rocket shield and army. Take Moldova and some of Romania, split the rest between Hungary and Bulgaria. Or Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia gets overrun by sandnigger, someone release ethnic bioweapons finally, hungarians roll into the empty land. Or someone release an ethnic bioweapons against slavs, and we get back slovakia, part of Ukraine, slovenia, serbia, and croatia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon
We live in an age when a well off NEET could make bioweapons with CRISPR or some other cheap tech, major players already developed theirs ethno weapons, it is a possibility that some group or nation will use them, lands can get depopulated fast, opportunities for landgrabs can present themself.

>>91747883
>among Jews
Why.

Why are you people so fucking simplistic.
Are you literally this fucking stupid that you cannot differentiate based on anything but the broadest of terms?
Or do you just not care?

>>91748220
>Yes we can, future is not written in stone,
Not without a massive war costing many many lives on both sides.
And there is easier ways to accomplish the same things.

>bomb the shit out of their rocket shield and army
AHAHAHAH
politics doesn't work by "someone getting pissed" you naive child.
>their rocket shield and army
You mean our rocket shield right? Because we are providing the radar stations for that.
also

if you want to ally with russia after our historically .... great.... relations, and after their current authoritarian fucked up trends, you can go fuck yourself.

>ethnic bioweapons
wait you actually think that is a word....
it's not.
or at least not a word referring to anything that exists apart from feverdreams of conspiracy nuts.

>NEET could make bioweapons with CRISPR or some other cheap tech,
going on to further prove how you have literally no idea whatsoever how any of this biotech works

nyolc általános legalább megvolt?

>>91748220
imposible circumstances

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>>91737453
>Britain fell
Yes, the parts that were very far and disconnected from the mainland were lost but I fail to see the Island of Britain divided. Scots and Welsh speak English yet they were able to keep their customs and traditions. Which further proves my point.
To build a common identity, to build a new nation, the common language is a must.
Which brings us back to the tribal viewpoint, what is the most important cohesive force in a tribe which does not involve giving up individualism?
>>91748220
Congratulations you either kill 20% of all Hungarians all you kill 80% of all Hungarians. It was really worth it.

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>>91702408
t. Ottoman Eyalet

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>>91747196
>They had actual economic reasons.
The well being of people not measured by purely economic points. Social trust is lover in multiethnic states, preference for people like you is natural. People would have easily gotten over some rich fuck losing his cotton business as opposed to having to ward off niggers for the rest of their lives. Plus, white people could have been employed with wages for the same jobs, less profitable for the owner, but better for the nation.
>And you have conveniently ignored everything else, which would have undermined your narrative of this being a purely racial issue, so you could continue posting your reductionist racial propaganda pictures.
Because it comes from a racial issue, the jews would not want to wipe us out if we were jews, it is all for the building of a Greater Israel for them, and that is just the step 1, that is what the GFE all about too, control of the goy, and stealing resources. All central banks will crash because of lack of gold backing, and oil eventually become irrelevant too, jews try to syphon as much resources as they can to Israel with their central banks before that.

>>91749306
t. roachlands vassal
greeting from the lands that were actually conquered by the sword rather than being the eternal cuck

>>91699543
Yes it can. What would you like to return to: Turkey?

>>91701004

Everyone knows Romania never owned Transylvania before they got it from Hungary, many Romanians even here admit that.

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>>91749523
>t. Ottoman whore prides itself in putting a fight with Turkish duck in her ass!

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>>91749231
Could worth it on the long run.
>>91707449

>>91728894
Along the borders there were 2 million Hungarian, and another million in Szekelyland. Even if we discont Szekelyland thats a hue number, the Czehslovakian and the Serrb parts, also the close Transylvanian parts had no reason for annexation, and we talk about countless, culturally important cities and areas here.

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Why are gyppo/Hungarian threads always so funny?

>>91748929
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon#Russian_ban_on_export_of_biological_samples

>>91749231
>but I fail to see the Island of Britain divided. Scots
heh.
hehehehe
You do realize that scotland is literally about to leave the Union because they wanted to be in the EU?

>Scots and Welsh speak English
scots are almost unintelligible, and welsh have their own language.

>>91749388
>people would have gotten over.
But the people were not controlling the politics the rich fucks were, as always.
Your point is moot.

>Because it comes from a racial issue, the jews would not want to wipe us out if we were jews,
are you seriously this fucking illiterate
i have been giving counterpoints to this in every single one of my posts.
It's not THE JEWS
YOU
FUCKIN
MORON
it's the GFE
> it is all for the building of a Greater Israel for them, and that is just the step 1, that is what the GFE all about too,
just reread my posts you fucking nigger.

the GFE fucked over israel multiple times, for their own financial interests
a lot of the GFE are non jews

you want to see jews behind everything to be able to say that you were correct but you're not.
you are simply wrong.
factually wrong on almost every single thing you said here, precisely because you want to simplify everything to an us-vs-them thing.
even issues which cannot be simplified to that.
>jews jews jews jews jews
You spout unrelated propaganda someone else made for you and that doesn't even remotely relate to what i said.

You are repeating this jew thing. For no reason whatsoever.
You are making claims about the jews, without any proof whatsoever.


DO
NOT
GENERALIZE
YOU MASSIVE
MASSSIVE
COCK

because generalizing is almost certainly wrong in all circumstances.

>>91750026
do you actually believe huns were magyar or are you just memeing?

>>91750026
>Could worth it on the long run.
>killing 20% or 80% of hungarians

Oh.
Oh you're a troll.

Well.
You got me.
I spent my entire afternoon arguing with you.
Hope you feel accomplished now.
Jó éjszakát.

>>91750242
Diluted by other ethnicities, likely still have some traces of hun genes, so kind can clam all their former clay on the long run.

>>91750242
he's a troll. in that post you refered to he said killing up to 80% of hungarians would be acceptable in the long run
goddamnit. abandon thread and sage.

>>91717795
>The only way to get and keep lands is blood and iron
just like we got transilvania back?
nuff said

>>91708497

I believe you're confusing countries..

>>91699543
>hurr durr lost clay
if you want clay back/forward you go and take, whining about it is the way of the cucks

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>>91750166
Cause of the butthurt

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>>91750207
>because generalizing is almost certainly wrong in all circumstances.
That is generalisation. And even you admit, sometimes it is not wrong, could be mine that is right.
Btw, I am not surprised that you think in individulist way. So do I, but after wiping out everyone that would harm us.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Soviet_Republic

C U C K S
U
C
K
S

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>>91750166
the huns are easy to troll