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What is Happening?
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First Amendment rights will no longer apply to the Internet on October 1st, 2016. Obama is handing control of the DNS to the world on October 1st.

You just saw the effects of this from YouTube. Websites are forced to change their rules and ToS or face termination by foreign countries outside the countries in which their servers actually reside.


Why is this Happening?
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>Wait, how does Obama hand over the keys of the internet?

The DNS Server that controls the entire internet (Everything with a .com at the end, or .org. Like youtube.com, gamefaqs.com) was controlled by the United States.

On October 1st, they relinquish control of the DNS protocol to all the foreign bureacracies of the world.

The practical effect on this is that it means other countries besides the United States can take down websites without having to go to the U.S. beforehand, which has had a history of protecting its First Amendment rights.

If the U.N. wants to take down a website for hate speech, they can do so now without any intervention by the U.S. This also means all websites that exist within DNS (this means gamefaqs.com) must answer to the laws of ALL countries, not just one.

Doesn't matter where in the world your website/server is anymore, you must respect the laws of all countries or be taken down.

Since the U.N. bans hate speech, that's out the window and so YouTube is forced to do this.


What can we do?
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Nothing. Once control is given there's no taking it back. We had our chance to fight for free speech on the internet and lost it. It's done.

Republican Senator Ted Cruz, who lost the Republican Primary to Donald J Trump, has launched a countdown clock

https://www.cruz.senate.gov/internetcountdownclock/

Republicans are fighting to stop this deal, but they need to get past Obama's presidential veto before they can do it. Some democrats will need to be red-pilled on this issue or else it's getting veto'd
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>>90771297
Can I have a source?
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http://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/u-n-human-rights-council-first-resolution-on-internet-free-speech/

This is a GOVERNMENT Website. (.gov). There is no denying it's credibility because it comes straight from the white house.

If you want alternative sources, however.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/08/29/icann-un-take-internet-oct-1/

http://rickwells.us/free-speech-dies-us-conditioned-censorship/

http://endingthefed.com/october-1st-could-mark-end-of-free-speech-on-the-internet-how-obama-regime-may-be-turning-control-of-internet-over-to-u-n.html

Your right to shitpost on the internet is coming to an end.

Goodbye, alt right.
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>these threads getting no air whatsoever
unbelievable. its a big deal guys
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Man wtf how the hell is hate speech a Fucking crime. Fucking Fuck. They can't control people in real life so they'll do it on the internet
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>>90771297
WHAT
THE
FUCK
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>>90773274
I can only express my anger/worry so many times in one thread.
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So Hillary has won ?
> 4chan and /pol/ is taken down
> no more resistance or Internet opposition
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guess I should start to torrent all the Seinfeld episodes I can
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Fingers crossed Lyin' Ted pulls through and blocks this shit
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Uh yeah nothing will happen.

Shemitah, 9/11/16 and now this. There's a reason these threads aren't being filled up.
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>>90771297
http://deepmeem.freeforums.net
can you talk about this here?
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>>90773274
Um excuse me? I'm a little busy responding to TRUMP BTFO threads to respond to anything with substance at the moment, thanks.
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>>90771297
Wait ... My hack3rz skillz may be rusted, but if I remember correctly, a DNS is just a server that translate something like "4chan.org/d/OP-is-a-futa-faggot" into "IP 127.0.0.69:88".
It's not a "Key" to the internet, just a translation table : name -> IP. You can still access a website without any DNS server in the world, you just need to know the exact IP address.
Also, there is a fuck-ton of various DNS servers, on various countries. Worst a country could do would be to remove an entry from the local DNS, but you can manually choose which DNS your navigator should use.
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OP's video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmI-hGthrwA
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>>90774902
>someone somewhere will click this link
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>>90773811
Are people seriously just learning about this?

We've been talking about this shit for MONTHS and yet nobody fucking listened. Nobody paid attention.

And now we fucking reap what we sow. Say goodbye to every -chan on the internet, free youtube, all torrent sites, etc....

The internet was the last bastion for free expression and we just sat back as we let it get thrown away.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
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>>90771297
Same as usual our rights being taken away people will do is moan (not anymore anyway coz that will be classed as hate speech) then we move onto the next topic
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>>90771297
So loli is going to be banned too?
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>>90774211
>Obama removes free speech from the Internet.
>Trump's main promise become s restoring free speech to the Internet.
>Landslide voter turnout for Trump.
>NEETs form fucking parade lines from the polling places to the vote counting places.
>The first sign of tampering starts riots everywhere.
>Trump wins the most closely scrutinized election in the history of the world.
>MAGA
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>>90771297

Bump.
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>>90775093
the only thing i can do is see IPs and edit comments, and most of the time i wont use these powers
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>Doesn't matter where in the world your website/server is anymore, you must respect the laws of all countries or be taken down.

So great, when the UK decides to make another bunch of sex acts illegal online, the whole world will have to deal with it.
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>the Feds can no longer shut down the internet unilaterally

why am I supposed to be mad?
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>>90774767
what do you mean
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Facebook, twitter, Google and other big websites wrote a letter to congress to encourage them to not delay the handing over of the internet.
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>>90775189

4chan and the Boorus are honeypots for the FBI, GCHQ etc to catch filth, they are not going away.

So what if 4chan gets banned in some authoritarian shithole? I don't care.
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>>90775394
Because now it's not just the Feds with that power, but every global power
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>>90775287
>>Trump's main promise become s restoring free speech to the Internet.

Trump can't actually do anything about this, even if he is elected president.

Once you give keys to the entire world, you would have to convince the entire world to give the American government back singular control

Putin would step in and say "nope", just like all the other countries.

The only solution is to ..stop the deal. Once the deal happens, there is no going back.
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>>90771297
Realisticly is this a bad thing? Can they really take the chan away?
Also what will happens when normies find iut?
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>>90775283
>tfw the goal all along was for the UN to get control of the internet so that they could finally ban HIGH IMPACT SEXUAL VIOLENCE loli.
fucking UNfags need to burn.

THEY WILL NEVER TAKE MY FUCKING LOLI REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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It's been too late to be stopped for a long time now
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>>90771297
>not using cryptostorm
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why aren't groups like the electronic frontier foundation all over this? even reddit usually freaks out over any threat to muh internet. what's going on?
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>>90775173
Not saying it's OK.
Just saying if you don't even have the know-how to choose what DNS you are using, you pretty much deserve to only get access to the "normies web".
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>>90775508
http://deepmeem.freeforums.net
they wont catch us here
please come to my chinese memeboard
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>>90771297
Wait what the fuck... it ends forever or the domains just change?

How about steampowered?

WORRY
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>>90775362
Maybe the world will start taking issue wwith retarded Aussie and Brit prude laws then...
I'm picturing it now.
>The lewd wars.
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>>90775602
Reddit and Google support this because they're in the pockets of the Saudis and Israelis that want this to happen.
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>9 years ago
>the Internet united in perhaps the greatest movement of our generation to shut down SOPA/PIPA to protect the greatest invention of our time
>now
>People don't give a shit about the UN shutting down 4chan, Youtube, etc. because le Drumpf threads xDD

What happened?
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>>90775602

Because these threads are being made by happeningfags who think it'll be the end of free speech.

>>90775686

Nothing is happening dipshit.
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>>90775602
It's all shady behind the scenes type of shit. The normies have no clue this is happening unlike SOPA. They learned from their mistake and decided to make this entirely secretive.

fucking king nigger should just be assassinated.
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>>90775678
Retard; it's not just about being blocked from entertainment. It's about hindering normie access to information. How the fuck do you expect to redpill the masses under massive censorship? Think outside the box you dumb French fuck.
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>>90775535
so where do we go?

Once governments begin mass censoring 4chan is fucked.

Where do we go?
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haven't really kept up with this. does it apply to other top-level domains?
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>>90775545
Ah fuck, it's another sad panda purge. But this time it's loli.

IT ALL COMES
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>>90775772
Don't reply to me ever again.
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>>90775535
Or you just make a new American DNS database and tell the UN to enjoy their "sanctioned" one that nobody uses.
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>>90775944

Just did Mr Dubs.
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>>90775770
checked


Because
>le Drumpf threads xDD

These fucking stupid normies are literally so fucking ass-mad about trump they're willing to throw away the internet over it.
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OP, you didn't make a bait thread, all the nu-/pol/tards are going to ignore it.
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>>90775721
i meant more like your average redditor they might be faggots, but they're usually up on this kind of stuff.

>>90775772
hope you're right. i've been keeping track of this and i can't seem to get a clear picture of the actual consequences. maybe i'm just retarded.
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>>90771297
we tor and i2p now...
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>>90775948
>Or you just make a new American DNS database

You first
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>>90775772
>Nothing is happening dipshit.
>>90775772
>Because these threads are being made by happeningfags who think it'll be the end of free speech.

You fucking NIGGER.

YouTube ALREADY CHANGED ITS POLICIES TO PREVENT BEING SUED AFTER THIS DEAL GOES THROUGH

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL IN DENIAL?
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>>90775986
I will take this as misunderstanding.
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>>90775993
>yfw you realize Trump was a plant not only to give Hillary the presidency, but to distract the people from the stripping of their last few freedoms
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>>90775047
>CCNA for 4 years
You're right. A DNS just matches a domain to the IP addresses. There are many many DNS servers across the country, and anyone can host them. The internet can't be controlled.
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>>90771297
You have no idea how dns servers operate.
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>>90775819

To the dark web ...
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>>90776125
Which policies were these?
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Just type in the IP address you neanderthal fucks
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>>90776188
>>90776183
Thanks for correcting the record.
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>>90775361
What is it?
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>>90776088
It's a big undertaking, but so is a gorillion mile long border wall.
Neither one is impossible.
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>>90776125

>he has a youtube account
>he has google keeping a log on his shit

Hol' up, why are you signing yourself up to Jewgle's rubbish? If you use Youtube for more than watching videos you are part of the problem.

JUST DOWNLOAD VIDEOS IF YOU THINK THEY'LL GET TAKEN DOWN, WE DID THAT WITH EVALION YOU THICK FUCK
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>>90776139
But he has denounced Obama on it too!
Stop it faggot
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>>90776239
>Just be complacent in the globalist elite plot of making the internet slightly more difficult to navigate ;)

Fuck off kike
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>>90775948
>Or you just make a new American DNS database and tell the UN to enjoy their "sanctioned" one that nobody uses.

Yes, make your own DNS that will proceed to get DDoS'd by the NSA, FBI, and CIA the second anything remotely resembling child pornography gets posted on it, you get arrested and charged because it happened in a DNS you control, and you proceed to go to jail while the entire world moves on without you

Not forgetting that businesses like Microsoft and Google won't do their internet businesses with Joe the Plumber's basement DNS.

The "USE A DIFFERENT DNS" idea is a complete sham in every sense of that particular word
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>>90776139
got any wikileaks to back that up?
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>>90776314
Okay so go do it. I'll wait.
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>>90776239
>type in the ip
>get russian writing in russian that says access is denied and this website has been shut down because of certain laws

will all you fucks shut up, this is a big fucking deal.
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>>90774437
this
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FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK WE ARE SO FUCKED

SERIOUSLY WE ARE SO FUCKED FROM THIS IF THIS IS TRUE
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>>90771297
Finally, an actual happening. I'm so tired of this boring world.
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>>90776514

How can a website banned in Russia be banned around the world?
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So what happens to TPB?
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>>90771297
>>90773274
>>90774211
>>90775045
>>90775189
>>90775287
>>90775535
>>90775545
>>90775686
>>90775721
>>90775770
Drama King Cucks. Nothing will change you're all fucking lame. NEET only vote Bern kys.
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>>90776425
Good, keeps out the fucking normies.

I'm serious
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>>90776553

calm down nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk5et9tfYyg
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>>90771297
so, lets assume this is real. would it be possible to make another network from scratch? i know firewalls and cyberspace protection is extremely advanced, but does that mean we could start a new internet? and what does this mean for the deep web? will it cease to exist?
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>>90776428
The "you" I was referring to was Trump (or other high-level mogul who loves the 1st amendment), not some crusading 4 Channer.
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>tfw knew about this long ago
>tfw there's nothing I/we/anyone can do anyway
The world is a dark place.
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>>90776645
The free flow of information is very relevant to /pol/.

Go back to /r9k/ and be a degenerate somewhere else
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>>90776621
because they are giving access to other powers to shut down things they dont like. All the powers can do anything they want now its a basket of bull shit.
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>>90776553
enjoy your last few days of 4chan, lad.
October 1st 2016, 12:00 AM, this site is immediately being shut down by the (((UN))).
it was a nice ride
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i'm honestly okay with this. the sooner this shit happens is the sooner the cyberpunk era can truly start
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>>90775287
t h is
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>Friday night will be all of our last shitposting experiences.

It's been a pleasure lads.
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I'm ready for this happening I stocked on Abstract Memes.
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>>90776851
xD epic only fellow nerds will get this epic meme cowboy bebop so epic upvote :P
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>>90776684
ok sorry

but seriously, we might be FUCKING FUCK FUCKED
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>>90776621
You don't understand, the entire WORLD will now have influence over the internet. China can remove YouTube from the internet, and the UN 4chan, and Russia any American newsites.

This is literally the death of the internet.
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uhh niggers doesnt know we can host our own DNS servers

but but muh muh main DNS nigger get openVPN like a nigger lose your eyes and keep lurking if all else fails use tor or i2p
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>>90776810

I'm pretty sure this will be challenged in the international courts.

If China were to take down a popular forum for say Norwegians and it did nothing wrong, chances are they'd take the government to court.
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>>90775678
>>90775812
This you ijiot.
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>>90776621
Because Russia appeals to the UN (with hefty bribes) to ban it worldwide rather than just banning it themselves.
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What the fuck do we do how do we stop it????
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>>90776078
I have used tor but what is i2p?
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Well it was nice knowing you guys.


4chan is totally going to be taken down almost immediately.
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>>90775812
> redpilling normies
> by hoping they will find censorship-worthy information by themselves
> instead of bringing those informations directly on normies' "clean and nice" websites
k
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>>90771459
>here's a credible source
>breibart
lol
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>>90777027

You don't need to do anything because nothing is going to happen.

Cue the happeningfags squealing at me with the hyperbole.
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>>90776836
WHAT ARE YOU KIDDING ME
HOW THE FUCK AM I GONNA POST MEMES NOW
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>>90771297
It was nice shitposting and disscusing with you, friends.
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>>90776964
>uhh niggers doesnt know we can host our own DNS servers

And you fail to realize why operating your DNS won't change shit

If your website is off the DNS, you aren't making money. Period. Meaning you can't run a business. Meaning you can't own a website. Meaning the website can no longer exist.

Meaning the website will get pulled off the internet entirely, putting in a fucking IP won't help. It's gone.
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>>90771297
Reminder that this can be circumvented by using an alternative DNS. The damage comes when sites actually shut down.

https://www.opendns.com/setupguide/
>Our nameservers are always:
>208.67.222.222
>208.67.220.220

But this is actually a really big deal. Worth revolting over, IMO.
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Maybe I can finally get a life.
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Why is king google doing this? The skypes must be behind this...
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>>90771297
So is there a vote? I mean he cant just do that shit
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>>90777035
tor and i2p are basically fed honey pots they are nothing in this battle. Also i2p is another tor.
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>>90777035
I2P is an anonymous overlay network - a network within a network. It is intended to protect communication from dragnet surveillance and monitoring by third parties such as ISPs.
I2P is used by many people who care about their privacy: activists, oppressed people, journalists and whistleblowers, as well as the average person.
No network can be "perfectly anonymous". The continued goal of I2P is to make attacks more and more difficult to mount. Its anonymity will get stronger as the size of the network increases and with ongoing academic review.
I2P is available on desktops, embedded systems (like the Raspberry Pi) and Android phones. Help spread the word!
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>>90777051

That isn't going to happen you stupid fucking leaf.

We've had Y2K, 2012, May 2011, the Shemitah, Ramadan 2016 and a million other happenings that never came to fruitation. I'm pretty sure it's safe to say nothing will happen here.

These guys are suffering from happening withdrawl, they need a bomb in a western city with more than 20 fatalities or they'll go crazy.
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>>90776714
(you)
We literally just connect to the "american dns"(will be created if they get bored and want to censor everyone) and it's a done deal. I already use google as it is as my DNS so there is literally no change.
It doesn't matter if icann thinks muslums are good goys if I have/make my own DNS server. "The DNS" is 100% for the IT JUST WERKS kids.
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>>90776964
So what happens to the millions of normies who are not competent enough to use these things and no w no onger have access to 'edgy' content being shared by 4channers and wikileaks because global interests have shut it down? I didn't realize CTR and JIDF were now shilling for the globalized, constitution-proof internet.
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4 chan will be okay... r-right guys?
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>>90777285
>implying 4chan wont be the very first site they remove
oh lad...
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>>90777126
This lmao

Im against the deal but fuck. I could be doing so much better in life if i wasnt addicted to the crack cocaine that is 4chan lol.

But fuck seriously, how bad will this fuck up the internet??
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>>90777144
no king gong wants this country burnt before he gets leaves or creates a reason to get elected again.
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>>90777203
FUCK OFF FBI SHILL NIGGER
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>>90777338

No it'll be Reddit, good riddance.
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>>90775189
I gave up after literal shills started sliding the threads. They were saying "oh but it doesn't matter because we will still have our own servers"

That's great if you're a socialist big brother shithole but not when we the people have unlimited (or used to) access of free speech.

Anyway it's been fun you dumb cunts
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>>90777058
Less people accessing content that a legislative body doesn't want them to see will mean less people sharing said content meaning less normies being exposed to said content. Shut the fuck up, I literally cannot fathom how you would be okay with any step taken against the open internet. I guess the stereotypes about Frogs people are true.
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>>90773274
>>these threads getting no air whatsoever
>What can we do?
>Nothing.
thats why
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>>90776938
>>90776938

not an argument
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>>90777051
All they can do is make is so typing in 4chan.org goes to a censor page you will be able to go to 104.16.66.203.
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>>90771297
Obama will go down as the most treasonous American in history.

Also, UN, censor the internet -- I dare you.
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Fuck obama
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UN are such a bunch of globalist leftist cucks
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>>90777480
Neither is your stupid attempt at humor
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>>90773274

Who cares.

Won't this election end already.

I'm actually ready for them to hurry up and finish screwing Trump so things can go back to normal. Sorry, but this shit is fucking exhausting.
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Everything is fucked, I'll miss you fags
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>>90777394
i dont even know how i2p works anyway, is it complicated tor things or is it just a thing that works
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BUMP FOR FREEDOM!

WE MUST PROTECT THE GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT OF MANKIND!
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>>90775819
Mars
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>>90777487
>Yes goy. All they can do is just censor websites. Nothing to be scared of Goy. Just type the IP good goy. Everything is okay
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>>90776946
You're an absolute fucking retard if you actually think this. Even if DNS's are global, China has no power to remove or censor content on Google's servers without their approval.
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>>90777232
You never know.

We live in a society today that is normalizing SJW beliefs, if a website is seen by normies as a nazi hangout then no doubt they will shut us down.


King nigger wants to go out with a bang and will make this the beginning of anti "hate speech" society
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>>90771297
Its not the UN. It wont be the UN. Stop spreading this misinformation. All that is being transferred is the registry of addresses linking text internet addresses to actual IPs. There is no ability to censor actual content.
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Nothing will happen.
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>>90777590
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>>90777777

THANK YOU MY FRIEND.
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>>90777777
WASTE
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Let's shutdown Google shall we! Also get rid off reddit and fagbook.
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>>90777777
WITNESSED
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>>90777777
Well kek has spoken
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>>90777744
Yeah but Google will remove websites if it upsets Saudi and Israeli Kike global interests :)
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>>90777777
H-holy shit...
has KEK spoken to us? Is this a sign?
What does it mean?
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>>90777594

i was 100% serious though. the internet is boring as fuck now, forced censorship will also force technology and content creators to evolve what they're doing to survive
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>>90777777
KEK HAS BEEN CORRUPTED
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>>90666666
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>>90771297
NOT 4CHANS BIRTHDAY!!?!?!!
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>>90777844

>waste

It's the truth you happeningfag.

NOTHING
WILL
HAPPEN
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>no more yanks shitting up every thread
good things sometimes happens
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we need to make sure this censorship doesn't happen.
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>>90777203
>i2p
>honeytrap
i'd understand why they'd say a military network like tor is a trap but i2p?
shit son you gotta stop smoking dick.
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>>90771297
geuss i'll have to start buying dubbed anime now.
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>>90777907
Sorry everything in life is about getting your rocks off and being fun. I love nu-/pol/. Go back to the_donald you 'alt-right' degenerate.
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>>90777777
check em and kek em my man
kek is truly with us
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Criticizing a woman on her feminist opinions in the internet is going to be a punishable offense by the UN.
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>>90777103
you realize you're arguing with globalist shills, right?
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>>90777995
But why hand it over in the first place?
There is obviously some agenda being pushed...
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>>90777117
IMO 2
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>>90778012
this affects everyone who uses .coms and .orgs, not just Americans
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>>90777878
They already do this under DMCA laws (which are perfectly valid if used corrected), however, there is no way however that a private American company will comply with non-DMCA related takedowns from Robert McNoseMoneyMan that doesn't like video x if they don't own the rights to it.
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>>90777777
>REMINDER
Divine numbers does not confirm or deny, It is only to draw this post to our attention
>REMINDER
>>
Reminding that P2P protocol is the way of the future.

https://zeronet.io
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>>90777898
it means that meme magic is safe
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>>90778098
Because Obama is such a good guy. Everything he does it out of the goodness of his heart
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>>90775283
Hope so lolifag.
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>>90778172
IMO 3
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>>90777777
is it time to build the spiritual internet
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>>90778219
>manditory javascript
totally legit bro
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>>90778178
>Ill finally be free from this hell
good things happens lad
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>>90777777
FUCK OFF, YOU IDIOT.
DNS CENSORSHIP WAS HOW THEY TOOK DOWN KICKASS AND TPB.
DNS CENSORSHIP IS HOW THE UK PORN BAN WORKS.
DNS CENSORSHIP IS HOW TURKEY BLOCKS TWITTER.
IT IS IN FACT THE PREFERRED TOOL OF DESPOTS EVERYWHERE WHO HATE THE INTERNET.
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>>90778243
Sad thing is Blacks and sjws will continue to think like this
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>>90778243
>>90778243
*good goy you mean*
he's a globalist working to get rid of 4chan because its a threat to his goals.
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>>90776366
>Hol' up, why are you signing yourself up to Jewgle's rubbish? If you use Youtube for more than watching videos you are part of the problem.
there are people who never clear their cookies and have been logged into google for years, day after day..
it baffles the mind, really.

my friend told me he didnt mind that he had no privacy because "he had nothing to hide" and also the advertising was tailor made for his tastes.

literally letting it happen without a fight. as for this thread, I think OP is a faggot. Taking any monopoly from the US seems like an incredibly good thing to do, so Im all for it
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>>90778180
That's intellectual property; that's entirely different from a globalized internet that now no longer adheres to the constitution of the United States. (DMCA laws is also unconstitutional, but that's a whole different argument.)
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>>90774902
I ain't clicking that shit
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>>90778360
>bashing the site without even testing the product

Confirmed for not knowing a thing about p2p protocol.
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>>90778022
https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/8360/i2p-idiots-introduction/
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>>90775812
dude. normies don't like censorship either, they're just too stupid to care before it directly affects them. And when enough sheeple start complaining, DNS alternatives like namecoin or something might start getting traction. Like being integrated into firefox or something.
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>>90778269
>wanting to ban cute little girls
you disgust me. How could you make that smile a frown and still call yourself a human?
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>>90778031

it doesn't have much to do with fun, since i know the shit that i enjoy doing will be slightly harder to access if this law passes. i've also been browsing the various incarnations of this board since the first /new/, so you're really hurting my feelings right now by equating me with summerfags. one more thing: not an argument
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>>90777777
>>
>Obama giving up the rights to the most important human invention since fire

This is like handing out blueprints of the atom bomb to Russia.
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>>90778459
>Taking a 'monopoly' from the United States and now putting it into the hands of a globalized force

Shill kill yourself
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>>90773274
because literally nothing is going to change
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>>90777734
They are "censoring" you typing in 4chan.org or Ihatemozzies.com. Just like marijuana has been illegal for all this time you could always get it. They have changed nothing for people that want the 4chains.
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>>90771297
Just means some other country is going to get rich providing hosting.
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>>90777067
>Post multiple sources including .gov site
>Sheepfucker picks on one of the sources

Wow New Zealand seems like a retarded little bro of Australia, they can't even shitpost properly.
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>>90774767
this isn't some theory though. it's real retard and it IS going to happen.
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>>90777777
>There is no ability to censor actual content.
I dont believe you. Something this big as king nigger handing over the internet...

Do you know what that means? That means if some cuck in germany or sweden deems whatever they think is hate speach they can just bypass our rights here in america and just shut the whole site down if they want

they would also be able to call in military force and arrest those if they have to
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why would they delete /pol/?

after all it say right at the bottom of the page
>All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.

Hirshima Moot could say they are going to delete it but unfortunately it is very slow process :)

kikes: 0
nagasaki mot: 1
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>>90778459
>Taking any monopoly from the US seems like an incredibly good thing to do, so Im all for it

>In US hands the free speech of the internet is protected by the constitution.
>In the hands of the world/UN, literally fucking everything is banned, censored, or suppressed that isn't far-left communist views or beliefs.

fucking end yourself
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>>90778370
I'm not willing to barter away a free internet because some anons can't limit their own use of a Mongolian horse-breaking forum
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>>90776366
He never even showed he had a youtube account
>>
Let me get this straight
Some content on some website is against the law of, let's say, Germany
Germany decides to shut down the website
Do they shut it down globally for everyone, or do they just shut it down in Germany/restrict access for Germans?
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>4chan removed from dns server
>No more normies on 4chan
This sounds like a win to me
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>>90777487
I get an error when I type the ip in the box though.
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>No more jewtube
>No more 4chan
>No more easily accessible free HD pornography
Guess I'll have to get a job now or something
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>>90777777
Praise kek
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>>90776767
This. Fuck the UN. I hope it falls apart. Fuck off NSA.
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>>90778653

OK, lets wait and see.

But after Y2K, 6/6/06, May 2011, 2012 and every other prophecy or happening that /pol/ has shoved down my throat excluding the one rare legitimate happening, it's hard to believe anything bad is about to befall us.
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>>90776183
Yeah but what do they sync with if not the root name servers? We are talking normies here who think win10 is great. Did you know windows has it's own name lookup function built into a dll? You can edit their hosts file to your hearts delight yet lookups call the windows dll first!

Remember the internets was built by DARPA as a military application to provide redundant communication links amongst elite politicians, priests and war mongering generals in a time of war, anonymous is more and more a vestigial remnant of days gone by especially considering the complete cooperation of ISP's in back tracing 'customers' in the US and elsewhere today.

I have always assumed everything you do on the internets can be backtraced, there will be free connection points until liability forces these closed systems with authentication is my guess. Been around puters since DOS 3.2, in some ways those days were better because now disconnection is not even an option as was no doubt always the plan. Welcome to hive mind!
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>>90778749
IT'S GLOBAL ANON.
WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD CIRCA 2016
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>>90778728
oooh, we are the lads from countryside and you ill never put a better bit of butter in your life
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>>90777487
That doesn't work. Direct ip access is not allowed on sites that use cloudflare.
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>>90774902

that link seems really shady.

where does it go?
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>>90778805
That's because they don't want you connecting like that, If the dns purge came they would allow that.
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>>90778530
And by the time it directly affects them it will be too late to do anything. The normalcunts can only be fed redpills involuntarily, and once you take away the means of reaching them away; it is over. They do not have the drive to circumvent blocks that hinder from from viewing information, because they never cared in the first place. The only way to expose normies to the corruption that is ruining their lives is by force.
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>>90778098
>why is a globalist centralizing power
Gee thats a difficult question
>>
It may not be a big deal if /g/ isnt spazing out about it. They are really autistic when it comes to freedoms (for good reason).
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>>90776973
You really don't know how the un works do you?
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>>90778901
to freeforum
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>>90771297
>muslims take down 99% of sites because everything is Haram
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>>90778749
What is Germany, Anon? The Internet belongs to one race: the human race. If a website is bad for some humyns, it's bad for all of us and we need it to be taken away. :^)
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>>90775270
So why not vote differently. That would be the greatest thing anyone can do. Not the big 3/2 Parties but anyone else. Ultimate meme
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>>90778749
Everyone.

>yfw fucking Sweden
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>>90775772
>>90776629
>LiterallyRetards.jpg
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>>90775819
where did he come from cotton eyed joe?
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So this is the way this world ends...not with a bang, but a whimper.
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>>90778658
>Germany using military force to arrest an American

My sides...
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>>90778952

Well I genuinely don't see this occuring.

I get it, you're suffering from happening withdrawal but don't fucking sperg out.
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>>90778505
>vpn shill website with ads
great argument bro
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>>90778749
the German government could already (in theory) block its on citizen's access to this site.

if DNS gets handed over to the UN, it comes down to whoever has influence over the UN. in this instance, Germany (or any other nation) with influence could appeal to the UN to block a specific site globally.
>>
>internet's shut down
>get sad
>no one uses it anymore, because why bother
>perhaps talk to people (optional)
>read
>take walks and/or walk
>(in my case save LOTS of money

Anyone else feel indifferent about this scenario?
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>>90778585
>puts monopoly in faggot quotes
>calls me a shill because he doesnt like it when people tell it like it is
you are an """"""""""""""faggot""""""""""""""
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>>90777777
NICE LIES

ANY REAL SOURCES C U C K ?
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>>90778773
Oh really? Go to the other chans that exist already then, it'll be just as lively.
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>>90777777
>All that is being transferred is the registry of addresses linking text internet addresses to actual IPs.
fuck
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>>90773707
>they can't control people in real life

really?
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>>90779024

I guess you have a bugout bag right next to you, you're dropping a water purification tablet in your water as I type this and on top of that there's some gold bars in a heavy safe under your feet.

Oh yeah and the tin foil hat.
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>>90779146

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCusJRcbhEo
>op suck dicks
>/pol/ literally blow the fuck out
>/d/ is now superpower
i dont know how to feel
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>>90778569
You're right, it's not about fun; it's about your sekrit club. I guess I can't argue with you, because it's down to morals. You're morally selfish and care more about your exclusive membership on the internet than you do the free flow of information.

> i've also been browsing the various incarnations of this board since the first /new/

Yeah; of course. You're a veteran of the JIDF after all.
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>>90778494
I ran zeronet and removed it because the UI required js to function properly.
p2p or not, it went into the trash where it belongs.
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>>90778370
yugoslavia? is that you?
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>>90778907
no, dude. read the whole post before responding.. the normies don't have to do shit other than whine, which they are pretty fucking good at.
>>
If 4chan is killed we will spread across the net like a plague. Normie sites will be fucked if we aren't contained here. Just look at reddit and r/the_donald. It will be like that but way worse. This site is a necessary evil unless they want mass normie triggering across the net.
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>>90779146

>some get claims hillary will die
>"OMG PRAISE KEK SO SHALL IT BE!"
>some guy speaks the truth about how this is bullshit
>"KEK WASTED REEEEEEEEEE PANIC PANIC PANIC"
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>>90771297
CTR thread.

pls gib me job.
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>>90779243
DAMN THATS SOME FUCKING SOURCE

YOU SURE BLEW ME THE FUCK OUT

>blew me
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>>90779107
...how would you save any money though?
Do you have a subscription which is pay by usage?

Otherwise i don't really see it. You'd still need a connection for e-banking and other shit.
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>>90777487
What browser do i use
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>>90775944
Don't reply to mine or my wifes son's post ever the fuck again
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>>90779346
>mudshitbrit trys to shill
>fails hard as fuck
go change your proxy to leaf, its more befitting a cuck like you.
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>>90777655
>idk how tor or i2p works all I know is that it's a trap
lol okay kid
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>>90779346
when it happens it will be like my animes
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>>90779339
lel, fuck containment boards, this is a containment website.
You don't want to shut it down. The signal will not be stopped.
>>90779437
Your normal one, until their is a dns purge they wont let you connect like that.
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>>90777402
Ah yes the .02 seconds extra we will get to shitpost will totally make a difference.
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>>90779087
How will they decide, especially if 2 states disagree?

It may even make internet more free, because UN is incompetent and they never get shit done.
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>4chin is kill


KEK, YOU GLORIOUS BASTARD

embrace the chaos!!!
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>>90776780
We'll just have to organize the old fashioned way.
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>>90779339
they can't kill 4chan. the worst they can do is forcibly remove it from ICANN. It will still be accessible through other root DNS alternatives like OpenNIC.
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>>90779275
And many normies are also impressionable. I was not always open to views deemed unsavory by the status quo and the mainstream media, but because of the internet and involuntarily exposure to differing philosophies, I now had the ability to "Get woke."
>>
If this happens someone just needs to make another server with a new domain that insults obama.
>>
/g/ here. Id just like to remind you fags that the internet will not go down anytime soon. Please read and educate yourself before king obongo destroys everything we love most.

https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet

https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs

Decentralized internet is the future.
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>>90773274
I support it tho. I've been shilling for it to my friends and family for a while and they're for it as well. Mostly because they don't use the internet that often
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>>90776780
same here senpai.
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>>90779612
with country life butter ?
>>
Well just remember : The UN's biggest mistake was being in shooting distance.
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The Internet, Obama

Hand it over
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>>90771297
Honestly, this could be the push the world needs.

Hear me out.

This will force containment boards/forums to adapt, as some may go down.

This could cause like minded people to have to meet face to face to talk about the shit they were used to talking about.

Imagine if pol members congregated one area. Yeah, there are a lot of us, but a lot will be shunned for being stupid fat neck beard faggots. The rest of us can organize and do things IRL.

Imagine being finally in a place where people like you can actually do something. (or forced since it won't be like you can get on the internet and shit post anywhere)

We could start the national socialist movement back up for instance. Just tossing ideas.

OR

It'll piss tons of people past a tipping point then the real happenings/fun begins.
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>>90779491

It's clear you don't know that this thread is trying to Correct The Record by destabilising /pol/ into a happeningfag mess.
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>>90771297
So would 4chan be forced to go down to the deep web?
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>>90779792

There'll be a lot of underages at those meetings desu
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>>90777655
main differences afaik is that tor has always 3 hops, and as a normal person you can really only volunteer as a relay. exit nodes require fuckton of bandwidth.

i2p OTOH *requires* every user to be a router, and also allows for arbitrary number of hops (it's a tradeoff between speed and security).

also I think tor exit nodes could always look at your traffic unencrypted, which is why you should always use https with tor.
i2p OTOH is encrypted throughout
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Fine here's a better example
http://www.erlbaum.net/
Or
204.232.142.177
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>>90779247
>You're morally selfish

indeed

> exclusive membership on the internet than you do the free flow of information

also true, but i consider it to be more of a matter of skill than a membership that can be freely given and revoked

>You're a veteran of the JIDF after all

i got a dishonorable discharge from the JIDF when they found out that i wasn't a kike, sorry to disappoint you
>>
Have fun Americans, you will not see many Europeans here in the future. We will mostly be banned or in jail like me for hate speech. We don't have freedom.
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>>90779884
>LE EBIN DEEP DARK WEB MEEM
please no, I don't want them to find the secret spot!~
>>
>>90779792
would there be tendies at these meetings?
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>>90779577
>How will they decide, especially if 2 states disagree?
comes down to who has more influence

>It may even make internet more free
doubtful. as it is with DNS in US custody all .com and .org domains are protected by the 1st Amendment (right to free speech)

the UN is under no such obligation and could simply use its new found leverage over the internet to its own advantage
>>
>>90779436
I'd be not spending pic related every month (valuta DKK) I use e-banking, but I don't NEED it. I'm saying I feel indifferent... I'd surely miss this place, but other things make me laugh and happy, life without internet worked before, right?
>>
Are we sure this is a major issue /pol/?

Tell me how big of a deal is handing over this power?
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>>90779649
Again; all of the jargon in this github means nothing to every other normie. Normies do not care about a decentralized internet; and they will likely never use it. There is something inherently evil about the federal government taking steps to reduce ease of use on the internet.
>>
>>90771297
>must answer to laws of ALL countries
>turkey its illegal to not deny armenian genocide
>france its illegal to deny armenian genocide
>netherlands its illegal to critisize homosexuality
>saudi arabia its illegal to not critisize homosexuality
wew
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>>90779999
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>>90777487
what are those videos?
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>>90779972
"Oh we are the lads from Country Life,
and you'll never put a better bit o' butter on your knife,
if you 'aven't any in 'ave a word with the wife
and spread it on your toast in the morning!
It's country life, it's english too,
from the cow to the dairy from the dairy down to you,
'cause it's pure and fresh and creamy through and through,
so spread it on your toast in the morning!"
>>
>>90771297
When you take the last thing man has left , his bastion of hope and light


You better be ready for when that man comes for you and your family.


Soon Congress , the members of the federal government will be exiled from this land. The land of milk and honey. ..


Don't take which does not belong to you


Muahahahaagh
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FUCKING AMERICA

is it actually happening now guys?
srs?
if this is actually happening i want to die
>>
>>90780062
There's something inherently evil about the federal government period.
>>
>>90779792
>bunch of 13-year-olds show up to trade printed out Pepe's unironically
>some 27-year-old in a trench coat is trying to discreetly show off the katana underneath
>a 35-year-old well-groomed man in a suit is leading the meetings, taking notes, and reporting back to his FBI superiors

mite b cool
>>
>>90775508
No, you don't get it, one country can take it down EVERYWHERE.
>>
So what can we, or congress do about it now?
>>
>>90780235
Agreed, but some people seem to forget that whenever Obama does something, it's not because he's doing it for the benefit of the American people or the world at large.
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>>90778994
>fastest way to world war 3
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>>90780098
YOU WILL NEVER FIND IT, YOU WILL NEVER FIND THE SECRET BASE.
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>>90779643
well on the bright side, if the normies can't get access to 4chan, they can't steal our dank memes.
>>
>>90780305
nothing

>>90780210
it is happening for the internet sweden, but prepare yourself for the 30th if it happens.
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>>90771297

goodfuckingluck.jpg

Let em try.
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>>90779250
Ok, regardless of the specific case, the point is that the technology exists.

It's not impossible or even infeasible. It exists and it can and will adapt. P2P really is the way of the future.

If not zeronet, something else.
>>
ANYONE THAT THINKS OBAMA IS DOING THIS AND IT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE INTERNET IS A NAIVE FUCKING RETARD

ASK YOURSELF WHY OBAMA WOULD DO THIS IF IT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE INTERNET???

HE ALREADY SAID HE PLANS TO HEAD THE UN AFTER HIS PRESIDENCY, I WONDER WHY HE IS GIVING IT OVER. ITS A LONG TERM GAIN FOR HIM.

USE YOUR BRAINS
>>
>>90780305
You email your congressmen. That is pretty much all you can do at the point.
>>
>tumblrites post something about women being human beings
>Iran censors it

We're about to see some serious shitstorms.
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guys how is the un going to shut down a american website
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>>90778599
>nothing is going to change
and yet, per-emptive change has already happened. Or was labeling pepe as hatespeech(good bye, 4chan...) or youtube heroes not happen?
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>>90780265
Mfw someone brought a katana in a trench coat to my parents house like 8 years ago.
He even was like dude check this out.
I told him to GTFO and come back without a katana
[spoiler]if you are lurking pls no kill with katana[/spoiler]
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>NTIA is giving DNS to California Based non-profit ICANN

> ICANN performs the actual technical maintenance work of the central Internet address pools and DNS Root registries pursuant to the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) function contract.

>ICANN already has access to a lower level of the infrastructure
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>>90771297
>people legitimately think america has any say in what globalist godkings wants
>people legitimately believe they are worth even half a damn in the grand scheme of things
give up goy, why fight it, just lie down and die goy, theres literally nothing you can do goy.
just shut your brain off, vote hitlery and show your non existant worth you fucking shits, die already,
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>>90771297
SPREAD THIS FAR AND WIDE
CRUZ ASKS: "IS ICANN BOUND BY THE 1ST AMMENDMENT"
HE ANSWERS: "NO SIR".

https://twitter.com/NetworksManager/status/780424739324039169

SPREAD THIS
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>>90780008
>the UN is under no such obligation and could simply use its new found leverage over the internet to its own advantage

yes, but luckily they are prone to infighting and historically, they almost never get shit done. I hope it ends in unending arguing without effects.
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>>90780488
They're not, else they'll find their ambassadors going home in an ambulance.
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>>90779999
Is the term "non indexed webpages" better or you'll keep being a faggot about it?
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>>90780446
I long for the day we see a fully functioning, uncensorable p2p imageboard.
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>>90780488
>this goddamn retard
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>>90780462
What can they do to stop it, wouldn't they need to have a vote within the next 2 days?
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>>90777777
checked
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>>90780488
have you.. have you even read the thread? or are you that stupid?
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>>90780061
European governments can now finally ban their citizens for browsing or posting hate speech on foreign sites. Most of what Europeans say on here is illegal but since the site is hosted in America we can't be prosecuted. Now we can.
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>>90780418
fuck man im scared
this means i cant stay inside all day and post dank memes on /pol/
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>>90780738
The correct response was they are not going to. They literally don't have that power.
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>>90777487
No.
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>>90775535
this is the only thing worthy of a war
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>>90780488
>Obama: Here UN, you now have control over all US websites!
>You: Uhhhhh, how is the UN going to get control over US websites?

I'm glad you're getting deleted from my life.
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>>90780636
Congress can block it within two days, yes.
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>>90779792
Yeah sure great idea how about we meet in plac Dupie in Chujowice next poniedziałek?
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Well...it looks like I'm going to have to read books to get info on the Jews from know on, anyone have any recommendations?
>tfw no more Dr. Pierce, Jared Taylor, or Kai Murros video speeches.
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>>90780599
>implying anyone would tell 4chan about the ones that exist now
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>>90780918
Is Cruz working on getting congress to block it?
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>>90780873
Yes they can, retard. infowars.com will be "unavailable", you'll have to type the IP address to access it. Nobody will remember the IP address. It's censorship.
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>>90780955
*now
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>>90781002
Yes but he's pretty ineffective
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>>90780586
are you content that the future of a free internet will rely on UN ineptitude?
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>>90780583

CRUZ MISSLE INBOUND!
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>>90780873
they will if your cuck president hands over ICANN to the UN. with just a few tweaks of international law.
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>>90776810
So muslim governments can ban all websites that insult islam?

Is this a troll happening thread again?
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>>90781078
Shocker
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>>90779577
Well if worse comes to worse we could hit swift. If money stops so to does the globalist agenda since everything is electronic transfers.
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>>90781018
>Nobody will remember the IP address.
If you cannot bookmark an ip address get the fuck out.
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>>90781191
No, this is real.
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hey guys, I just visited this website: http://deepmeem.freeforums.net 100% safe, just come alright
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>>90771297
Could 4chan be subject to """hate speech"""
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fine will stop it ok

just make sure to be as angry as possible tonight
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>>90781380
4chan is without a plausible doubt subject to "hatespeech"
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>>90780008
ITS ICANN. NOT THE FUCKING UN
>>
Obama has finally gained control of the Chaos Emeralds.
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>>90781095
No, but now it rely on Hillary losing and dems not being able to influence constitution.

Your right to free speech can be taken away, too.
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>>90771297
Won;t this give absolutely any country the power to take down absolutely any site, even, say, North Korea?

My god, this is gonna turn into the biggest cyber war in our lifetimes, isn;t it?
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>>90781526
its ICANN being handed over to the UN.
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>>90781526
Like there is a difference.
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Q&A from icann (non-profit non-gov't corporation) addressing the questions raised by OP: https://www.icann.org/iana-stewardship-questions

I'm not saying death cultist and authoritarian governments won't continue to infringe on their local populations' liberties as they have been doing already, however to label this a loss of control to UN and/or Constitution not being valid for US-based sites is ignorant at best or intentionally misleading at worst
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>>90781603
Best Korea is not a part of the UN, are they?
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Ill leave this here
https://www.google.com/amp/boingboing.net/2016/09/20/webs-inventor-and-mit-prof-e.html/amp?client=safari
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>>90781589
GOTTA GO FAST AND GET EM BACK THEN
>>
regardless of what happens, everyone in this thread should make sure they are using a reliable root DNS alternative like OpenNIC or similar, instead of their ISPDNS.
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Here you go morons, crisis averted.

https://bit.namecoin.info/

>none of you know shit about shit
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>>90781857
I rate this post an 8.8.8.8
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>>90778914
even a jap gets it, god americans are so retarded, im sorry i mean 90% of /pol/ americans
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>>90771297
Will Germany ban me from the net if I say something bad about a refugee? Can England have me extradited for typing in "nigger"? Can China filter political queries?
Thanks again Obama!
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>>90781654
Yet they fail to understand that ICANN could now block domains because they no longer adhere to the constitution.
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>>90780048
Life might be a bit different there i guess. At least here they've pushed digitalization so hard, its pretty hard to live without an internet connection.

Many services don't even have a physical alternative anymore or they have been made very incontinent to use.

It's cheaper to get rid of physical locations and customer service, so i understand why they're going in this direction.
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>>90781658
they are.
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>>90781938
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>>90782033
the UN can't censor what YOU say online, but through the intimidation of threatning to remove the domain name from ICANN, they can preasure domain owners to censor their content, and userbase.
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>>90777777
Well, Kek has spoken.
Everyone, this is officially a waste of time constructed by the shills.
Kek wills us to not listen to their jewery and focus on what is truly important, MEMEING TRUMP INTO THE WHITE HOUSE!
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>>90782091
I don't think they'll be banning left and right (for example, banking or any other service that has to do with publics interest and info) but yes, should this website and many others get censored it just won't be worth it anymore.
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>>90777777
this >>90782384 applies to your post as well.
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"In two days time President Obama plans to relinquish control of The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA). This will effectivly make the first amendment null and void on the internet. It cannot be allowed to pass if we want to maintain a free and open internet.

The impact this will have on liberty will be devastating not only to Conservatives on the net, but to anyone who has political or social beliefs against the global norm. No longer will free-form thoughts flow and flourish on the internet, instead they will be censored and demolished on the basis of political correctness.

The internet has always been the last great bastion of free speech. Please consider the impact of letting the IANA contract expire. I fear that this could be the final nail in the coffin to true, free form liberty; Don't let it go out with nothing more than a faint whisper. Fight it!

Senator Ted Cruz is doing everything he can to fight for internet freedom in congress, but he needs support from the House and other Senators. I implore you to stand up against President Obama and fight for liberty on the internet."

Sent this to my senator. At least I tried anons.
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If shit hits the fan, remember to walk the path of light with the card in your heart.
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>>90782588
Hey fuck you Hjelmhead, you're retarded
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What about a distributed DNS registery, something like a blockchain.
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>>90771297
>taking down a websites DNS means it's gone

Lmao
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>>90783003
see
>>90781927
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1984 anybody?

Farrenheight 451?
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