The truth

>>74590947
>daily reminder that France invaded Germany first

>>74590947

The Nazipill is one of the heaviest pills imo.

>>74592035
indeed, i feel betrayed by everything i have ever been told

>>74590947
You're a retard if you fall for videos made by some paranoid schizophrenics.
Listen, I'm not telling you to fall for 'le Hitler is evil" memes but dint fall for the stormfag "Hitler did nothing wrong sieg heil 1488" memes either.
View this shit from an objective stance and then decide.

>>74592986
I am trying to be as objetive as possible, it's just the realisation of what acually happend the stuns me. I am not saying Hitler did anything wrong nor will i, i just know now that he did alot of good things for Germany and it's people, things that were unkown to me before

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>>74592986
What Greekbro said. Be objective. You gotta take a step back, examine all viewpoints, examine all the evidence, and then make up your mind.

Nothing's worse than a kneejerk reaction, which is why /pol/ is considered an echochamber full of contrarian manchildren by its detractors.

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>>74592986
I wonder whose behind this post

>>74593433
missspelled a bit there, i meant to say 'Hitler did nothing wrong' not that he did absolutely nothing wrong. i know no that he did some good things and some bad

>>74590947
most of this documentaries 'facts' are just pulled straight from the Nazi propaganda at the time. The Nazis didn't have an economic miracle at all.

- real wages didn't really increase in the 10 years they were in power before the beginning of WW2
- the national deficit doubled in this time while tax revenue only increased 50%
- they conscripted all their unemployed into non-productive military jobs
- their unemployment figures were constantly tampered with, like taking citizenship off the Jews so they were no longer in the tally.
-trade between other nations reduced because of nazi doctrine pushing for self-sufficiency
- how do you have an economic boom while trade is simultaneously reducing and you're creating millions of non-productive jobs in the military? durrr

the fact is that the Nazi government was facing bankruptcy and were put in the position where they were almost forced to invade poland and empty their banks or face a financial catastrophe. They also confiscated assets from certain peoples (jews, commies, etc) to help pay for a lot of this.

The nazis were excellent at propaganda though and spun a lot of bullshit.

>>74594000
Mfw this guy didn't even last an hour with the fake experimental red pill

>>74594000

>Nazi propaganda

Lost the war, and the whole world hates them. Hated them then, and now.

>Masters of propaganda

Right, Kangaroo nigger.

>>74594000

>mfw you just described the New Deal

>>74594248
excuse me while I turn off a 6 hr documentary with constant melodramatic music after listening to enough half-truths I'm already well aware were bullshit.

Hitler had 5 attempts on his life by his own Party towards the later part of his war. He sacked all his most experienced Generals and military leaders, sometimes on psychotic justification that they didn't have faith national socialist ideology. He gave lectures on nationalist socialist ideology while the USSR was closing in on Berlin for some reason thinking this would turn things around.

Hitler was charismatic but he wasn't educated in economics or military matters. He was a corporal in WW1 and was in constant conflict with his generals during WW2 and made many decisions catastrophic to the war effort. Stormfags really need to stop idolizing him.

Once again, enlightenment gained via some video bestows "the truth" to us all.
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>>74590947
>I have no idea if any of you have seen this vid before but it all makes sense now, everything.

Is this your first day on here friend?

Daily reminder that /pol/ is a national socialist board.

>>74595095
been lurking here for i while on and of but i never saw it pop up

>>74594511
Nazis really were the masters of propaganda. Hitler was never recorded speaking earnestly except for one this this Swedish sound engineer managed to capture a recording of him discussing the Eastern Front. The Nazis were very careful and thoroughly planned everything. All the films of the Wehrmacht that you see show them flashing off their most sophisticated military and hugo boss clothing. Purposely neglecting that they started Operation Barbarossa with something like 700,000 horses pulling wagons and artillery and Hitler refusing the preparation of winter uniforms leaving German soldiers totally unprepared.

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Hitler was a very bad goy, i mean guy.

get it through your heads goyim, i mean guys.

watch shindlers list. its the only true source

trust me oy vey

>>74594939
Agree with this completely
I was talking about OP

>>74595212
congrats you just watched 6 hours of adulterated bullshit. Did the 6 hours of melodramatic music not raise some red flags for you?

>>74595224
https://youtu.be/ClR9tcpKZec

noice info

>>74595224
Well, your point is moot. Of course he won over his own people, that's how world war 2 started, him galvanizing his own people (if he couldn't win over his own people then who would fight for him). But, the rest of the world pretty much hated him. Except for a few other countries, most of which stayed neutral throughout the war.

>>74595440
yes that's the recording I'm talking about. It's the only one that exists of Hitler talking normally and it was recorded by some Swedish sound engineer I believe. The Nazis were very careful to construct this image of Hitler and stormfags still fall for it today. Anyways, it's a good fucking recording of him and basically shows the reality of him

They totally underestimated the USSR and weren't even aware of the T-34 in design and production. They based their assumptions on how the war would play out based on how the USSR fought Finland, not aware that the USSR was going through military reforms.

Nazi intelligence warned Hitler of US manufacturing capabilities and he laughed and dismissed it and declared war on the USA anyway. Actually Nazi intelligence underestimated US manufacturing ability. Hitler himself destroyed Nazi Germany

>>74595212
I suggest watching some dr. Pierce videos.

Such as this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4KSF8e578k

>>74595902
he sound pretty sane in this recording..

>>74595374
well yes, it's music that's supposed to make you get motional and i will admit it happend, but what about some of the more solid arguments in the video, like the Nuremberg trials using evidence based from the sovijets that were not so solid or the conflicting witnesses from auschwitz

>>74595959
Sry, meant to link this video although the other one i linked is good too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb8pL6mGvX8

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>this video is not available in your country

Totally unexpected!

If only he didn't go full retard and massacre a bunch of Jews and decide to fight a war on two fronts.

>>74595095
If we are talking literally, /pol/ is honestly a pure libertarian board.
>Anyone can come to this board and post
>Freedom of speech
>Many different ideologies are present here
>MODS GET OUT REEEEEE

>>74596109
The Nuremberg trials were organised by the Americans and nobody really knew much about the Soviet side and what they found so the Soviets could come up with whatever bullshit they wanted and blame their own atrocities on the Nazis. The Soviet archives were entirely declassified when the USSR collapsed and historians gained access to everything the USSR learned from WW2. The Nazis were committing mass shootings same as the Soviets and we learned there were 6 extermination camps out of the tens of concentration camps which were originally assumed to be all extermination camps. The nuremberg trials weren't perfect but a lot of Nazis that were pardoned because they were deemed to be just following orders and testimonies of even the holocaust victims spared some others. It was complicated you actually have to pick up a book on the nuremberg trials

The movie plays melodramatic music because it's appealing to your emotions and not your sense of rationality. This is what stormfags do. This is why they always post pictures of pretty white girls and men marching in hugo boss outfits and other aesthetically pleasing shit. They're retards that would have been used as cannon fodder on the front lines

>>74596395
They started massacring the Jews when the war effort was starting to go south anyways. But, yeah he bit off more than he could had chewed. He spread his forces way too thin, if anything he was everywhere, not as focused as he should have been.

>>74596220
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>>74595959
never heard of Dr William Pierce before, although not really surprised. Thanks for showing the vids though

>>74591915
??

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>>74595959
>>74596220
>Dr. Pierce
>PhD had nothing to do with biology
>Badmouthed his followers before dying, causing them to rip his organization apart from infighting

Yeah, some fuck-banana god of the skinheads is still relevant.

>>74596052
I didn't say he was totally insane. My point was that he's misunderstood by the stormfags as some superbeing when he isn't

I think the large amount of lies we are told about Hitler make us more susceptible to feeling sympathetic towards him when we learn the truth. I can't shake the feeling of frustration and defensiveness whenever Hitler is portrayed as evil or used as an insult. Modern life is so hollow, I wish I could honestly say I'd die or kill for my people. I think men need that.

>>74596559
>The movie plays melodramatic music because it's appealing to your emotions and not your sense of rationality. This is what stormfags do.
>stormfags
Actually, that is what the entire holocaust industry in Germany did and still does up until this day. If you think the Nazis were masters in propaganda, you haven't seen Germoneys "reeducation".

>>74596559
you make a good point and i will try to reflect on it for a while. Also a thought that poped up alot when i watched the vid was" what is being left out here?"

>>74596395
but you have to admit that the surprise attack on the eastern front was genius though he would have been better off no to invade. but with his ideology there would be no way for him not to.

>>74596583
The massacres started long before the war effort went south. Look up the Einsatzgruppen which was the first attempt at extermination.

The Nazis weren't really sure themselves what to do with the Jews. Some wanted them to be put to work in the concentration camps which went directly to the war effort, and this is what mostly happened. They had serious plans to deport the Jews to Madagascar but they had to postpone that because of the war. The industrial killing in the camps started when the war effort went south and many died from starvation and disease too.

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>>74596858
americans learned from the best

>>74596682
>superbeing
Who is though? Stalin or Mao? Alexander the Great or Napoleon?

I'm pretty confident, the reality of them is just as all too human than the reality of Hitler. Besides, "reality", both the Hitler in this recording and the grandmaster of rhetoric and propaganda are two sides of the same dice. The alter-ego he created was part of a larger than life art creation, resonating with Nietzsches Übermensch. He himself was just a man, but the Hitler he created was larger than life, basically he was the first rockstar of politics.

>>74592035
>>74592520

You'll end up feeling more free after taking it I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPGPsgDTW6k

>>74596583
>pol
tbhonest he should have just stopped at annexing Austria and focused on making the Austro-Germanic state the most based, technologically and morally advanced nation on Earth.

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ITT: JEWS JEWING JEWINGLY....and failing with brilliance.


You simply will not be missed.

>>74592986
this
>>74590947
>spliced up plagiarized video sources with mostly source-lss facts
>"""""""documentary"""""""

>>74596858
This was part of denazification of Western Germany (the East didn't go through this) because your grandparents were indoctrinated on bullshit. Maybe they went too far with it and your society is now cucked, but this is another issue

>>74597230
Why would the shills feel so threatened unless they felt there was still something that desperately needs to remain covered up?

>>74597172
I don't believe in superbeings either.

There is a Great Man theory of history where singular people can have huge impact on history and there is a competing history that says the environment creates this Great Man. Historians tend to use a mixture of both so we get the conclusions that

1. Germany was ripe for a person like Hitler to come to the scene and their outburst of extremism

2. Hitler was the reason things happened the way they did

>>74590947
sad music and repeated propagandist phrases make for a shitty documentary senpai
in turkey we are aware of how hitler tried to save the german people, but he also killed many and ultimately destroyed his nation with bad decisions

>>74597189
right now i feel conflicted, not really knowing what is true anymore

>>74596404
This is true. Every strawpoll shows Libertarians in the majority, time after time, with a strong subsection of teenage kids and balding manchildren that actually fall for NatSoc.

>>74596599

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_Offensive

>>74597191
Well he didn't because nazi ideology was so much more. Hitler wanted lebensraum for the aryan race so he had to invade eastern europe and depopulate it. Hitler wrote at lengths about how Empires were great because they conquered swathes of territory and he wanted to apply this for germany. hitler was an expansionist, not just some dude looking out for aryans like the stormfags will tell you

>>74597120
They were deporting them en mass at first. It doesn't make any sort of conceivable sense to put everyone in camps and then kill them. No, they didn't plan on killing them outright. The other thing is, the war effort was putting huge constraints on them, food and proper treatment of typhus was all but lost.

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>>74597532

>>74597286
Actually no, not my grandparents. They were children at the time and my great-grandparents were social democrats anyway, who helped Russian war prisoners with food and water and got into trouble with the Gestapo, found their friends in bomb craters - shot by the reds - and as a great thank you were deported by the Chechs in cattle wagons as "German pigs" like the Jews in those bleeding heart propaganda flicks.

The real reeducation started when Germany became predominantly leftish when the radical leftists of 60s and 70s gained political power annd connquered the institutions and academia.

I was a lot more exposed to brainwashinng and white guilt attempts than my grandparents or parents ever were.

>>74596224
Jesus Christ really? Are they afraid you guys would do it again?

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>>74590947

Bump for the Greatest story never told.

Welcome to the truth.

The next few months will be bad, but you will get used to it. Use it a tool, dont get frustrated but hyped, because you have seen the answer for your long asked question:

What is going wrong with this world and why?

Fuck the Jews.

>>74597120
>>74597677
But yeah you're falling for allied propaganda with they were all "DEATH CAMPS"! Some certainly became death camps, but for the most part that wasn't their intention. They became rather desperate when they realized they might lose the war.

So instead of deportation and allocating resources to internment camps, they decided to wash their hands of them.

>>74597631
>American education

France and Poland had a defense pact so Germany invading Poland put France and Germany into a state of war

>>74597486

JEW 101. As predictable as water being wet.

>>74597658
>was an expansionist

and that was his fatal error. He absolutely bit off more than he could chew. How the hell did he not learn from Napoleon?

The EU is basically succeeding where he failed.

>>74597494
Tbh, I believe the war would have been forced upon Germany even IF it had remained a republic and Hitler had never taken power, because neither Britain nor France could or would have allowed a rising power and competitor. The war between the Anglo ocean dominating hemisphere and the central continental, the Eurasian power was the great conflict and I believe it continues to this day.

Even Horkheimer, you know the guy from the Frankfurt School, argued that the Americans wouldn't have invaded, if it had just been about the Jews and not the fear for their loss of power, if Hitler and the Reich had one. And I believe that: in the end it's about power, control, money and remaining in the lead. The alliances and policies of both USA and Russia are evidence to that.

>>74597764
My great grandfather was in the wehrmacht and my grandmother hid in a forest actually near a concentration camp

>>74597872
well thanks i suppose. The only problem now is that i don't really know what to trust as true or false anymore

>>74597872
>dont get frustrated but hyped

How?

>>74598069

...but curiously not France and the USSR Shmuelly. Funny that.

>>74590947
>>74592986
>>74593433
>Right and wrong
Doesn't matter. They lost.

>>74597824
At this point we couldn't even invade Austria... We're incredibly weak, powerless, demoralized and cucked. "Enrichers" can slap, rob and kill our peole in our streets and our political class is still calling the bad white racists who complain about rape and foreigner crime the real problem.

>>74597191
I think he shouldn't had invaded Poland. I wonder if he couldn't had just asked if the poles would much rather deport Germans over to them. Since the poles at the time didn't particularly like them.

I also think, Spain should had been more of an ally and Germany should had tried it's best to win them over. Same with Italy, as Italy was rather minor in the war effort.

Russia needed to be taken out, they were threatening all of Eastern Europe and wouldn't had stopped there. They were monsters more so than the Germans could've ever been and they cut a bloody swathe throughout the region.

Infact everyone should had turned their attention over to them. Everyone might've if Britain didn't declare war on Germany. Then rope so many others in as well.

>>74597918
what? It's not allied propaganda, the camps the allies discovered were concentration camps, historians have said this. And historians have also said the majority of the camps on the Eastern side were concentration camps. There were only 6 extermination camps as far as I'm aware out of at least 50+ other camps.

They were doing mass shootings of Jews from the start of the war. Nazi death squads killed something like 1.3 million Jews alone I believe. There wasn't a common consensus on what to do with the Jews. Some said deport. Some said work them. Some said kill them. All three happened

>>74596224
there's always a way anon:

http://yle.fi/aihe/artikkeli/2006/09/08/hitlerin-salaa-tallennettu-keskustelu-suomessa#media=3913

>>74598168

You are a liar Juif because Wehrmacht just describes the complete non-SS military of Germany. Fuck off back to blech polishing & dreydl spinning you silly dimwit.

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The ridiculous thing is there are actually people who believe that the Jewish/Allied story about WWII is 100% factual and their government would never lie to them and even their propaganda is true. Then they come on /pol/ and furiously defend what they think is the 'truth' like a brainwashed zombie, it's really pathetic and sad.

Yes, yes goys. Your government is the hero! Your government is the vanquisher of evil! You live in a children's book! Remember your greatest ally is Israel (founded 1948)!

>>74594650

Moar like the Jew Deal, amirite?

Roosenfeld was one evil son of a jew bitch.

>>74598098
Hitler was fucking paranoid of being Napoleon 2.0. He was so scared that he refused to allow the army to prepare winter uniforms because he didn't want them in the USSR during winter. In the first year he diverted his military from attacking Moscow and beelined for St Petersburg because he didn't want them sitting in Moscow during winter. He was very aware of Napoleon's catastrophe and it haunted him from the start of the war but happened anyway

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>>74598264
isn't it human though to want to know why something happend?

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>>74590947
>800,000 views
>90% upvotes
Holy fuck

>>74598100
I'm aware the British are totally full of shit and what you say is a possibility I don't know enough about it.

Hitler really was an awful person though. Him and Stalin were horrible people but Stalin wasn't our enemy in ww2 so....

>>74590947
We've made a huge mistake....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUyDcGSMPEQ

>>74598506

CrippleJude and his kashrut puppetmasters needed war because his policies were utterly failing.

>>74598382

> historians have said this

Dude the victorious writes the history of it. They won and defeated da, super, evil "Nazi's"! No, you're pretty naive if you're thinking everything they said is completely factual and not injected with some propaganda.

It goes to show just how naive you are. That you didn't even consider that propaganda never really ends, and that the allies didn't have their own, for their own people.

>>74598427
uh yeah he was a soldier and wasn't in the SS. He was fighting in Greece and survived the war. My grandmother stayed with her family and hid in a forest and she said there was a concentration camp near the forest. It had nothing to do with my great-grandad, it's just coincidence of where they were hiding. They escaped to West Germany as the Russians came in

>>74598712

Left to right Davvi. Left to right.

Why does Youtube even allow this? I don't understand.

Moonman videos gets removed every other week, but this was somehow allowed to accumulate almost 1,000,000 hits

>>74598069

France still technically invade Germany first.

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>>74592986

>>74590947
Only the first step
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s

>>74598846

F minus kikeleh. You blew it. Fuck off back to making potholders and assembling ball point pens.

>>74597286
It's interesting that East Germany did not go through it. Did communism (and a few executions) just replace existing ideologies?

>>74598782
>Victorious writes the history of it

falling for this meme

It was the same historians that wrote about the brothel in Auschwitz and the Soviet atrocities on the Eastern Front. They write about everything

>>74598100
You'll always really be a power. You have a strong work ethic, and you're literally the heart of Europe regionally. You're a valuable strategic position. Which is probably why you'll always be plagued by war sadly.

>>74590947
Havent seen it, but probably know already what it says, it is a massive lie and pseudoreligion, people get hurt in their beliefs when facts contradict their knowledge of ww2, holocaust, hitler, race...

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>>74598180

Trust your insinct. Search for reliable sources. Never trust something funded by jews. Tip: Almost all western media is owned by reuters.

>>74598216

Arent you excited? You have found the answer and you just have to bring it to the people!
Find ways to redpill people step by step, your family, friends, acquaintances. You will get better over time. Safest route is to ask questions, that you dont understand questionable things.

Join your local right wing group and support them.

And for the love of god guys, this is not the end of the world. We fought and we lost, but we have to fight on. Most of us are still alive and we are more than them. We just have to stop getting used as a tool and take back what is ours and end the mass hypnosis done by the jews.

Most important thing with all this: enjoy yourself. There is noone helped with you guys getting depressed. People need to see how much better dehypnotised people like us live and they will come over.

Also you dont have to be a natsoc to share many views with them.

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>>74597532
Here's some info for you, stuff which is illegal in your country

The evidence against the Holocaust narrative is overwhelming
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1slx74zKQMc

Victim testimonies are thinly veiled propaganda filled with inaccuracies, lies, and contradictions
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80GgRWuXcO8

The infrastructure of the camps is unsuitable for the purpose of mass extermination
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruD4I4f5LkQ

It was never hard for me to swallow the Nazipill, as I looked at everything from Finnish history's point of view, knew what eternal Anglo wanted to do to us etc.

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>>74598993

Will they write about this shmutsi? Probably not because they will be windchiming from lamp posts.

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>>74598935
what exactly am I lying about?

you're some half literate bonehead in a US barracks, obviously you're well read on the war

>>74594248
>mfw
>no picture
Mfw no face

>>74598993
Not a meme, it's entirely true. It's just some things slip through the cracks. I've seen both sides and both stories, and no one was clean of it. Every side committed an unfair and outright damnable atrocity.

I just believe the German people don't get a fair shake out of it, and are overly demonized. It like everything else, we think our shit doesn't stink when it does.

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>>74590947
Welcome. You are home.

>>74598979
I haven't read much on what they went through on the east but denazification of west germany was a huge effort. East germans are far more racist and intollerant than the west and I think it's partly to do with this. in my opinion. the german might think differently

>>74598712
Well, Hitler was a Bohemian in his youth, he had a sense for art and culture. He had a vision for civilization. Stalin was a professional criminal and terrorist with a marxist ideology and was the most ruthless killer who rose to power by killing of his competitors. There weren't great cleansings on a Soviet scale in Nazi Germany, nor were millions of people systematically starved to death.

Was Hitler evil? I think, the more interesting question is: Would we hail him as the greatest leader who ever lived, if he had won the war and not lost it...?

I'm very cynical about it, because at this point I realize, I have been brainwashed, or at least this political class has tried to do so, for decades, like this country. And when I see at the results: they are a disaster!

>>74599060
the german civil war (communist cuop d'etat) thing in the pic is also something unknow to me.

>>74597189

anyone have more videos like this one? Same tone, mixture of speeches and patriotic imagery?

>>74598919
Also banned in Germany. As most stuff that is Hitler in his own words or films from the Reich.

>>74599234
you're confusing pop history for actual history.

historians are well aware of the atrocities committed by both sides, they're far more objective than that. pop history is politicized because of biases towards national identities etc

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>>74599150

My grand-pere was in the 33rd SS div. Charlemagne. My circle is going to dump data the day after Trump's inauguration that will have the Amerikans howling for Juif blood. You are already as dead as the Mossadnik I disappeared you just haven't blacked out yet. Au revoir Juif!

>>74596224

use a youtube proxy host. there's websites all over the place for just that.

>>74598979
From what I know from my relatives and commentaries: there was no white and Eternal Nazi (tm) guilt trip at all in East Germany. It was more along the lines that evil capitalism and the criminal gang of the Nazis took over the innocent German people and forced them to do horrible things. East Germany's army was also less cucked. - Strange actually...Soviets were using less brainwashing than the "free West"...

>>74599279
i think i'l camp outside for the time being, coming in for chat every now and then

>>74599517
Most of the recorded history of the time is pop history because every side likes to think it was the good guy. Just like the war now in the Middle East.

>>74599527
take your pills

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>>74598286

>>74598599
Sure. Hitler (or whomever oversaw the expulsion of Jews) had real reasons for doing what they did. That doesn't mean the Nazis were the good™ guys.

>>74596224
Not available in here as well. What the fuck

>>74599009
I wouldn't mind wars. I mind a broken and demoralized people. An infertile and soulless people. The cultural developments since the end of world war 2 have harmed our nation more than both world wars combined. This is also the conclusion of Ernst Jünger, and since 2015 I agree with him.

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>>74599763

It's coming but this time it will be all too real.

>>74599527
>Being such a whiny bitch your flag is a used tampon

Okay then

>>74599650
i dont think youve read an academic history book before. all this stuff is taken into account. what hollywood does with it is its own business

>>74595959
Better, download the whole audio archive and listen to it while doing something else.

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>>74599627

That's fine, we'll just annex you in. After all, we never leave our people behind.

Have some kittens.

>>74599043
It just makes me mad. After experiencing the jew first hand I can't feel anything but rage.

>>74599800
the only "good guys" are the one's on your side

>>74599821

Germany does not exist. There was never any civil capitulation. Hence the foreign occupiers with nuclear weapons and the NSVerbotgesetz prime directive.

>>74590947
Read David Irving.

>>74599527
>>74599861
Bonjour Mon ami, c'est vous?!

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>>74599997
awww

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>>74599997

have more kittens

>>74600104
anything perticular?

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>>74600138

im not the burger with the original kittens but have some more

>>74599820
They don't want us to question history. I mean, truly question it. I think, a good indicator, if you are in the sphere of influence of the powers that be is, if you can get into jail for holocaust denial. This "denial" goes much further than "Hitler did nothing wrong, there were no gas chambers and he killed no Jews". Getting into jail for asking questions. It definetely is the case in Germany.

>>74599871

I could drown you face up in a clear shallow creek with one hand around your neck and the other wiping sand into your panicked eyes and not break the faintest of sweat.

>>74600202
Not him, but I've heard "Hitler's War" recommended often.

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>>74599408
Ok let me fill you in.

Basically Europe at the time was controlled by imperial powers. There arose a movement among the Jews to see this overthrown, so that a Utopian vision for the future might take place.

Thus arose the Bolshevik movement. This was financed by a cabal of extremely wealthy Jewish bankers. They used terrorist tactics, racial animosity and class warfare to overturn governments. They staged Bolshevik revolutions in Russia and all the Eastern European governments, and tried to do the same in Germany. Their goal was a global social revolution.

The leadership of the Soviet Union was overwhelmingly Jewish. Roughly 80% of the top people in the government were Jews, despite them being a minority of the population. As was remarked by several people at the time (including Winston Churchill), these Jews were internationalists and had no loyalty to Russia or the Russian people, which explains their willingness to commit atrocities to fulfill their vision.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3plO343bID8

Leading up to WW2, Stalin was planning to march his armies across Europe. Hitler knew this, and militarized in preparation. Because of the mismatch between offensive and defensive weaponry, offensives rarely failed back then. Hitler knew he would have to attack first if he wanted to crush the Bolshevik machine. He invaded Poland to stop the massacre of ethnic Germans by the Communists there. And he invaded France so he wouldn't have to fight a 2 front war when Russia inevitably attacked. His entire goal in everything he did was to defeat Bolshevism (internationalism) and replace it with Nationalism and ethnic pride.

The Holocaust was a piece of Soviet propaganda designed to vilify Fascism (the competing ideology of Communism). It is no coincidence that of all of the 22 concentration camps, only those in Soviet territory, where Western inspectors couldn't get to them, allegedly had any gas chambers.

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>>74600023

Rage is good energy. Channel it to focus it on whats important and bringing down the jews.

Join the community.

>>74600324
>being this autistic

>>74600054
The whole situation is very strange: apparently the German Reich still exists, but is powerless, the Bundesrepublik is a creation by the victors of ww2 and up until this day we have no peace contract. A BND guy wrote a book not many years ago, claiming every head of the german government has to sign the secret chancellor file. To dumb it down: it probably means something like "Actually the CIA is running this country."

I don't know if all of this is actually true. But what I do know is that our entire government is under 24/7 surveillance by the NSA. And do you treat a friend or ally like that...? Probably not.

>>74599906

>i dont think youve read an academic history book before

Lets not resort to petty insults. The conversation has been relatively tame. But, there has been a lot of proof of forgery. To think it impossible isn't at all rational.

There has been Jews who have outright lied in order to make a quick buck. Falsified documentaries, trying to say that there were even more Nazi death camps. Yet the the location that they used as evidence (saying it was a Jewish cemetery, ad where the Nazis dumped some of the bodies).

Actually turned out to be an old Roman Catholic grave site. Which was largely unknown. But, it's despicable and infuriates me to think most of you will never understand the lies being touted as truth.

>>74600202
Pretty much anything by him is good. He's a solid historian that was slandered and shamed by jewish lobbyists for digging into the Holocaust money machine. I would start with this interview with him that summarizes his life story and gives you a nice background on his books and why he chose to write them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97L_SJrPl6g

Then I would probably start with Hitlers war and then Nuremberg if you're interested in the Holocaust.

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>>74600324
>Video banned in Germany

>>74600324
thanks for the info

>>74600109


Bons moments... mais toujours vivant vers la mort.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918

Have another sneaky red pill Sven - there was a Jewish-led and Jewish-funded Civil War in Germany after the first world war. Jewish Bolsheviks tried to take control and oust the native germans. This was one of the things that brought Hitler and the wider German people around to hating the Jewish peoples.

>>74600527

The GDR is the rightful government in exile. Germany is militarily occupied and administered territory.

alright stormfags I'm off.

Hitler isn't coming back and you're living in a fantasy.cya

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>>74599861
i want a dog
what kind of pupper do you have. i remember you from here some time before.

>>74597677
If they were 'deporting' them, why were they collecting jews in far outreach territory of occupied germany like norway greece etc and shipping them to interior germany?

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>>74600938

Surely you appreciate gallows humour eh Jakob Lugenmeister?

>>74600671
thanks, will look into it

>>74600722
I honestly believe that some of the reason Hitler attacked France was revenge for WW1.

But the truth is that he really didn't want to attack Britain. He loved the British people and the British culture. He let the British army escape from France in order to try to make peace (which probably cost him the war).

It's said that he actually broke down sobbing when his generals told him they had to start bombing British cities (Britain was launching destructive air raids on Germany, indiscriminately bombing civilian targets, retaliation was necessary).

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>>74600983

All time dead game bitch and best personality.

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>>74600998

they weren't

>>74598286
feels bad man, good luck germanbro

>>74598712
Yes, you don't know enough. You're full of shit. Stalin was our ally but was afraid we'd turn on him because of how terrible he was. Hitler was a bad person? In what context? Like he took his ball and went home? Or like his country had been totally blamed for all damages in ww1 (highly controversial at the time, completely accepted now) and ridiculous reparations had to be paid? I can't find the quote but it was once said that the treaty of Versailles was a promise of war after 20 years. Hitler did what was necessary to undo all the wrong that neighboring countries had imposed on Germany. Kys.

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>>74598286

Thats wrong, we have potentially still one of the highest warmachines if we set our mind to it.

But Germany is too much cucked and under jewish opression.

>>74601431

Stalin owed the finance Jews far too much in principle and interest to let flounder. The USSR was dismantled when they could no longer serivce their war debt. Britain finally started to satisfy war consol debt instruments going back to the early 18th century the year last. One can never find out the names of these fine patriots investing in death but I'd wager handsomely they resemble a Jewish wedding invitation list.

>>74601757
Will only happen after a violent revolution, civil war, the removal of women from positions of political power. Which won't happen. And even if it did happen, who woul fight in this army? You? We don't even have many ethnic Germa young people left in military age. And many of them are leftist nu males. And millions of others are muslim.

>>74602277
i feel bad for you guys, the fact that you have fallen so far only makes it worse. Doesn't help that your political sitiuation is just as fucked as swedens

>>74590947
Also watching this right now as well, really exposing how big of a lie the shit we are taught in school is. It leaves me lost though, too many different perspectives to consider.

>>74590947
welcome to the redpill and not trusting anything in life.

Just remember pretty much everything you've ever been taught about history is pretty much a fucking lie.

>>74590947
You must be such an expert after watching that youtube video.

>>74602687
never claimed to be one

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>>74590947
>he was ayy lmao slave

>>74590947
>tfw easily manipulated

>>74601431
>Hitler was a bad person? In what context?

kek

wipe yourself from the gene pool my man. hitler would have wanted it this way

>>74603006


...thought you were off to the AIDS mikveh Binyamin? Re-up your Truvada!

>>74598286
Sounds like a perfect recipe for the fourth Reich. All you need to do is wait for a major economic recession and Hitler 2.0 will rise from the ashes. History is cyclical.

It's a shame we haven't learned anything since WW1. Suppressing, demoralizing and controlling a population will only lead to resentment and eventually revolt.

>>74590947

Video is not available, wtf

>>74598286
>tfw our president told Estonian high school students that if Finland got in war situation we would still have more men ready to protect our country than Germans protecting Germany

>>74603282

It would be a 4th Reich. There was no "Third Reich"....only a 3rd Reich.

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>>74590947
I remember when I first realized the Hitler might have been a good guy trying to free europe from the jewish manace it made a huge emotional impat on me... if it's true he was a hero and the truth will come up to the mainstream sooner or later.

>>74590947
Whatever. Soviets also had their pathetic propaganda and generations of apologists so it's only fitting that their partners in crime would have one too.

>>74603495
It might actually be true. And you have to consider our political situationn aswell. I think a good symbol is: while we were flooded with 1,5 million illegals we had the 25th anniversary. The police was at its capacity and over it with all the illegals, but during the festivities a leftist group paraded through Frankfurt and called for the abolishment of Germany. And the police had to escort and protect them!

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>>74598286
when you austists wake up again don't take it out on polen, we are very bad goys, we are the most anti-semitic country in europe :^)

>>74604023
Only is you give us prussia back, thats where my grandma was born.

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>>74601314
Yes they were

>>74604023
I don't think so. Tbh this is a collective struggle of Europe for survival. It's the good old age of crusades and mass migration all over again. And if we don't fight together at these new gates of Vienna we will all fall to Islam.

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I dont think Europeans fully understand the jewish indoctrination that is forced on the public school sytem. This starts from such an early age that no sane person questions Hitlers motives because it is seen as socially unacceptable. Yet, every year of school includes reading about the holocaust.
It wasnt until I was a grown adult doing independent research, that I understood that the US killed millions of Japanese and hundreds of thousands of German civilians in bombing campaigns.
Even Stalin, himself is responsible for over a million deaths due to starvation.

>>74602277
There will be an awakening, there always is. USA has had its awakening in Donald Trump. When it happens you will feel it in your heart and never know how you lived without it.

>>74590947
>Video is 6+ hours long
Nigga...

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>>74604274
I wish there was a way to do something about this fucked up political reality, people are so dumbed down that I don't think its possible anymore, I crave such a feeling that I see from pre ww2 Hitlers Germany, united and pround people working together... what the hell happend to this civilization...

KILL EVERY JEW BEFORE THEY KILL YOU

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>>74604666
>burger attention span is just enough to watch a jerry springer episode

>>74592986
this is true. theres parts of greatest story never told that practically says
>hitler was so oppressed, he dindu nuffin
remind you of anything?

>>74594939
Hans-Georg Krebs: "To [Manstein] Hitler was the ignorant little lance corporal. ... To [Manstein] it was a heavy blow that this man was now in charge of Germany's military." I think Manstein summed it up pretty well

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>>74604295
I remember when I was like 5 years old I gave myself a hitler type of hair style and was told that its wrong because hitler, I sensed strong bullshit

>>74604868
>what the hell happend to this civilization...
two world wars
cold war
white guilt
radical feminism
materialistic nihilism and egoism
destroyed families and declining birthrates
demonization of men, courage, honor, strength, loyalty
a Church betraying us
loss of identity, values, traditions, heritage, strength
economic crisis
wars in the middle east were shit
aaaaand Islam

Tbh it's like watching the Roman Empire falling down in high speed. Just that we, our families and children are all in the middle of it.

Best outcome would be all of Europe uniting in the world war against Islam and standing side by side the USA and maybe even Russia. Truly overcoming the past of ww2 and white guilt, united in a grand crusade, liberating both Europe and the Middle East.

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well, it's been an informative night and i thank you all for sharing your opinions and other bits of information but i'm tierd as hell so i'm of to bed.
it's been a learning experience and i don't feel as naive as when the thread started.

Hitler fought great evils (Zionism, Bolshevism, Globalism), but he was not the savior that the stormfags make him out to be.

Did he recognize the negative Jewish influence on the world? Yep. Did he care about his people? Yep. Was he a great speaker? The best ever.

But, he was a full blown socialist. Look at the official national socialist program:

>The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. Consequently we demand:
>Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
>We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
>We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
>We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
>We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.


The guy was Bernie Sanders with good speaking ability and racial pride.

People need to stop assuming that every battle is good vs evil. There are plenty of evil vs. evil fights.

With that said, Hitler was not the monster history has made him out to be. He was not, however, the answer that you're looking for.

If any group of men is to be admired, it is the United States' founding fathers.

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>>74599452
https://youtu.be/uUyDcGSMPEQ

https://youtu.be/8ymEKiY1UR8

https://youtu.be/y-Yszp3SmxE

>>74605846

Seen the first and third. Will check out the second one though. Thanks.

You should check these out if you haven't seen them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm4qOkioLus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOnfV0-0apE

>>74605579

God speed, anon. Was nice to see you take the red pill. Don't be swayed by some of the shills in this thread. Jews are the bad guys, not the Germans, our cousins.

>Who has the power of influence over the mind (movies, music, news, academia) and power of coin?

http://thezog.info/list-summaries/

>>74606237

I'll add this one. Alerta Judiada does some of the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEeSPc5oTcM

>>74600998
Why have them working in norway or greece, then having to go through the trouble of transporting the goods they produce, instead of just bringing them to work camps in the country?

>>74598909
So? Defensive agreements are a thing if you cannot even grasp that you shouldn't talk about international politics. Talk about colouring or something.

>>74595844
>the rest of the world hated him
Time magazine man of the year and hosted Olympics in Berlin.
He wasn't hated until he started getting aggressive with territory, even then we constantly gave him what he wanted hoping to prevent war.

>>74603419
It's on kickass torrents
Look up the title

>>74607533
Buddy was claiming that they were being deported, not sent to work and manufacture, so that argument doesn't work

>Don't trust their propganda, trust OUR propaganda, you see, we're right, because we're not jewish, trust us, non jew, we're right! See all these pictures of le happy merchant? You KNOW we're right

Pathetic bunch of fucking hypocrites, honestly. Providing circumstancial evidence and flat out unfounded information as fact, all for the sake of indoctrinating people. HMMMMMMMM, SOUNDS FAMILIAR, DOESN'T IT?

>inb4 happy merchant pics

>>74608370
It could be either or. It still makes sense, they probably would have had to have been transferred through a bunch of camps before they could eventually leave for Israel.

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>>74608719

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>>74608719

>>74590947
The Western world would be a lot better off had the Germans won WWII. That is an objective fact.

>>74608719
Whom would you trust, one of your own or a stranger? That's what it boils down to.

>>74609108
I don't trust anyone, unless faced with hard evidence. I believe in the scientific method, and a bunch of circumstantial evidence does not dissuade me.

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>>74608719
Oy yeah, you tell 'em Bernie. Filthy goyim need to sit down and watch anotha' Shoah documentary.

>>74609356
Can you seriously not see the double standard? Are you that oblivious?

What was the Nazi party's policy towards homosexuals?

>>74609216
All evidence is circumstantial you fucking kike

>>74609589
Is it now?
http://www.criminallawconsulting.com/circumstantial-vs-direct-evidence.html

>>74609642
What circumstantial evidence are you referring to?

>>74609684
>A bunch of jews are well known for being advocates of multiculturalism -> there's a jewish conspiracy in favor of multiculturalism
Alternatively
>A bunch of jews say that 6 million jews died in the holocaust -> 6 million jews died in the holocaust
I'm a 3rd generation holocaust survivor and I don't buy that stuff, just because I'm told it. Maybe circumstantial evidence isn't the right term, unfounded facts is what I meant to say, apologies.

>>74609587
Untermensxh

>>74609832
Apology accepted
Dont let the door smack your nose on the way out

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>>74609832
>I'm a 3rd generation holocaust survivor

>>74609962
Why would I walk out of a room facing the door?

Would Europe have a much larger Jewish population if the Nazi efforts never occurred? I'm not really antisemitic at all, but often wonder if Europe would be much different had so many Jews not died. Would Communism have spread far wider? Or would things really not be much different at all

>>74610020
Yeah, my grandparents were in bergen belsen.

>>74610196
Did any of them die from disease or food shortages? Did they ever feed you the 6 gorrilion nonsense?

>>74590947
Greatest Story Never Told is absolutely a brilliant historical piece.

It's a shame how the victors of WW2 dragged Hitler's name through the mud. It's easy to defame someone who can't defend himself.

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>>74610051
You've changed my mind on kikes...
I thought your race could smell a joke a mile away...
Shame your gran and gramps didn't meet the reds...

>>74610196
I don't doubt you I just find it absolutely pathetic and despicable that there are Jews being born today claiming some sort of trauma on behalf of their grandparents. You had nothing to do with it you stupid cunt.

It's just a miserable excuse to be able to call yourself a "something something HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR OYY VEY MUH SHOAH RESPECT MY FEELINGS"

Fuck off.

>>74609832
Well we know pretty much for a fact that Bolshevism was basically a Jewish movement.
Here's my evidence:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMwgsy6ZD4

It was not a natural populist groundswell. It was financed by large powerful Jewish banking interests which used terror-tactics to conquer institutions, censor language, and eventually overthrow Russia and the other Eastern European governments.

What we call "progressivism" today really is Bolshevism, almost exactly the same as was pushed back then. "Multiculturalism" springs out of Marxist internationalist ideals.

All of the things practiced by liberalism today:
>The conquering of institutions
>The censorship of language
>The rioting, heavy handed agitation
>The targeting of the youth
>Class warfare, racial division
>etc....
All of the is Bolshevism

And just like Bolshevism from back then, it is financed from on high by a variety of wealthy interests. And advertised primarily through Hollywood (which is a Jewish dominated institution).

The object of Bolshevism is to destabilize and eventually destroy the social order. This is why Liberals support the influx of Muslims, even though it seems counterproductive to their interests. It's not about gay rights, or transgender rights, or pedophilia rights, or immigration rights....it's about using these things to smash the social order. Once the country has been smashed, it can be reworked into their vision.

If Jews were primarily behind it back then, they almost certainly are now.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEeSPc5oTcM

Regret.
Regret that they did not succeed.

>>74610413
Well, no, they met after the camps were liberated. The 6 million story is told here, it's pretty much stated as fact. I've never seen any tally that leads up to 6 million which is what makes me doubt that number but I have seen quite a few pictures of now deceased relatives, who've supposedly died in the holocaust, and I tend to believe that, seeing as how I can still see how traumatized my grandma is about losing her family.

>>74610473
I got your joke, I just think it was lousy so I relish in ruining it

>>74610530
Did I ever say I was traumatized? That's just the term we use in israel. I don't consider myself a victim of the holocaust, I don't use it as an excuse for my country nor do I condone such action, quite the contrary, I use that as a tool for determining the immorality or my country and my people. I use the holocaust to scrutinize the jewish people around the world and just how little they uphold the values that they expected of the world during the holocaust.

>>74610574
How does this fit in with the fact that jews are a powerful capitalist, corporate force? Do you think those people would just give up their wealth for the sake of bolshevism? Or are you insinuating that the desire for communism is just a front?

>>74600345
It means there's 88 more replies once you open the thread

>>74610815
There's a 14 there too.

14/88

>>74610767
I'm not one who thinks Jews are all evil.

Listen mate, Jews are fucking smart. Smarter than us, I know this for a fact because I've met them. They are economic powerhouses, just look at what they did to New York City.

Unfortunately they also have a lot of downside to them. It is hypothesized by many that the Jewish IQ advantage is the result of selective breeding for enhanced intellectual ability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GexZF5VIMU

Jews have much higher rates of allergies, medical problems, physical problems (short, bald, not so good looking)....etc. Dog breeds which are selectively bred for a certain trait also have similar problems.

Thus the Jews have much higher rates of mental insanity, hundreds of times higher than the general population. So they are prone to very wide ranging, revolutionary ideals. Rather than finding practical solutions to problems, a Jew is much more likely to aspire to grand visions overturning the entire social order. Jews are often extremely emotional and unstable, in comparison to gentiles who notoriously have very calm demeanors.

Here's a good demonstration of the dynamic. Notice the Christian is very calm and reserved, while the Jew is an emotional firecracker, his high verbal intelligence forging his words into weapons:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f50nRBIApo

There are many different ideologies within the Jewish community. Because of their wealth and power, these all have enormous consequences for the world. Communism developed out of the theories of Karl Marx, who thought the Jews did not have a right to exist as a separate people, but instead had a utopian vision of tearing down all the institutions and borders that created division so that we might all live equally (probably this mindset is a reaction to the persecution the Jews historically experienced in Europe)

Capitalism is another wide ranging ideology that also has egalitarian sentiments attached. Both are distinctly Jewish

>>74608808
>Transfer them from greece all the way up to poland
>So they can send them to madagascar
OOORRR the official story is correct, and everyone on /pol/ just ignores the logical fallacy chart at the top of the page cause libertarian contrarian

>>74611481
While I can agree with what you're saying about the negative side effects of the small jewish gene pool (which probably causes the positive side effects too) I think it's a little unfair to say that a jew inherently is both emotionally aggressive and has a desire for world domination or whatever. I mean, we're having a civil conversation here, aren't we?

Also, that second video's person clearly looks very immature, volatile and kind of unstable. Probably bullied for being gay as a kid, by the looks of him.

>>74611797
Just fucking castrate yourself you dishonest little faggot. You know you aren't arguing with any intellectual honesty right now and you're just hopelessly trying to cling to the official story because you're a fucking coward who could never face living in this world with a worldview that isn't socially acceptable.

>>74611998
It's interesting you bring that up, Jews have a lot higher rates of homosexuality (who knows why), I've read that something like 10% of them are gay.

Once you learn about genetics, you learn just how much they rule us.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL8aY3E2rto

There is evidence that identical twins separated at birth and raised apart are more similar than fraternal twins raised together. Some identical twins who met each other for the first time in their 40's were shocked to discover they had similar handwriting, they both married men who could have been brothers, and both married at around the same age. They had similar dreams and fears. Similar likes and dislikes.

The amount that genetics controls of a person is still not understood, but it's extensive. Fields such as epigenetics tell us that things such as general personality, health and more might be passed from parent to offspring.

(Heres a lecture on identical twin similarities from the same woman)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0xk--PhhHA

Anyway I absolutely believe that things such as insanity and certain other innate proclivites can be passed within a population group such as the Jews.

I think the Jews do great for the economics of a country. But they should not be given political control. People need to be wary of them.

>>74612595
>I think the Jews do great for the economics of a country. But they should not be given political control. People need to be wary of them.
That sure would explain why israel is such a fucking shithole, lol

>>74612736
Well in Israel the Jews have an ethno-national state. They care about the people of the country, because it's THEM (if you get what I'm saying). One of the problems with the Communists is that they were internationalists and held no loyalty to the people of the country, which enabled them to do horrific acts of genocide and such.

Some people (mostly from TRS) say that because of the Jew's general inclination towards subterfuge, they can't build the same large social structures we have in the West. And therefore they won't ever be as powerful as a nation.

I don't know if that's true or not. This is coming from a group of rabid Jew-haters. They might be just trying to justify their own feelings of inferiority.

>>74597532
I feel the same. I am so interested in ww2 but I don't feel like I can really learn anything because of all the lies from both sides.

>>74612105
How about you go through each point in this link and try and prove it wrong, you know you can't.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

Conspiracytards are the most cancerous fuckwits on the planet, always downlaying history and science because they're bored of the regular world and want to live in a fucking movie where they're the vigilant protagonist waking everyone up, cause they want to feel special.
Get a life you special snowflake bucktoothed inbred racist shit for brains

>tfw missing a redpilling thread
>>74611481
>Jews are smart
Not really, they just do what people wouldn't expect anyone to do due to our culture.

>>74613218
Holocaust is easy to disprove, you just have o be willing to admit you are wrong.

>>74613804
>A fucking burgerfat!

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>>74613994
>talk big
>time to pussy out and resort to name calling
Your country deserves the destination it is headed.

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>>74614146
>The direction your country is heading
Says the cuck who's gonna have the slimiest flip flopiest president ever in a few months, everyone knows shillary will win.
Still waiting on someone to make a rebuttal on that link

>>74614742
>http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial
One second, this is kinda easy but I need a minute.

>>74590947
>not reading William L Shirer

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God, what an obvious shitpost/shillpost.

>I replaced one set of propaganda-instilled values and mythology with another one
>I am SO BRAVE and a real independent thinker
>btw, I'm a girl and I like Hitler :)

If this is real, you're an idiot.
If not, then the obvious motive is to shill for this shtick.
Where's the beef? Where's the facts? If it's just testimonials from internet randos and carefully curated staged pre-war propaganda pics of Hitler smiling and waving to his cheering followers and being nice to dogs and children (because killing puppies and distributing film of it is exactly what a politician would do), then there's no reason to believe this is a good justification for unironic "Hitler did nothing wrong 4th reich now", "Vishnu Volkism is the only true religion" nonsense.
Inb4 half a dozen buttmad replies calling me a shill. I'm not selling anything except skepticism of propaganda, and not saying anything other than pointing out that almost certainly fake testimonials from fake Swedes are not arguments.

"Allied historians have incentive to lie, the Allies were hypocrites, and the Soviets were known for blatant lies, cover ups and mass-murders" doesn't make everything they say false or everything the neo-Nazis say true.
This is a big shell game, and both sides are in on it, if not for the same reasons. You're not getting fed the truth, because the standard historical means of getting "truth" were "curated" by the Soviets and western communist to suit their historical narrative and the current establishment from which normies draw their appeal to authority and contrarian conspiracy theorist loons take as evident proof of falsity is 100% invested in the WW2 narrative and the more "sensitive" parts of them.

>>74590947
The film is partly false. for example it says Pole were killing Germans before they invaded them, but no proof has ever been provided.

>>74615161
Heya Caucasus pal, hows it going?

>>74614926
I have not seen one conspiracy that rationalwiki didnt try to debunk

Yes, they debunk a lot of crack ones but they go after the legit ones and proven ones as well

I wonder who could be behind this site

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>>74614742
Firstly, half of the article is nothing.
>lists of deniers
>laws against holocaust denial, should be a massive red flag but you're an idiot
>denier rationalizations where the writer projects his views onto the deniers for example holocaust deniers want a return of the acceptability of national socialism

So half of the article is nothing.

Now lets get to the "evidence"
1. In 1922, Hitler told a journalist that:
>“”Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rows - at the Marienplatz in Munich, for example - as many as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews.
Thats great! An actual quote. Now lets see what Hitler DID initially, because that is what we are focusing on. I'll use Jewipedia since they do everything to cut down anything that puts Jews in a bad light so you can't fault my sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

>The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: הסכם העברה Translit.: heskem haavara Translated: "transfer agreement") was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist German Jews signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. It was a major factor in making possible the immigration of approximately 60,000 German Jews to Palestine in the years 1933–1939.[1]

WHOA WHAT. HITLER HELPED THE JEWS WHOA.
Pic related the friendship coin minted

>>74615139
If you care about the current world, and things that can be seen in front of your face, rather than the testimony of the USSR from 70 years ago, you don't need to make a 1930s pseudo-theocracy the central focus of your platform. If you think the Nazis had good eternal and abstract ideals, articulate them.
But if your primary motive for "politics" is rehabilitating the reputation of Hitler, to messianic status, then you're not serious as a political thinker and are just a religious cultist and no different than a moon landing hoaxer.
They're never going to get into NASA headquarters in 1969 and see what the full truth was, and none of you are going to go back to the 1940s and see if the gas chambers actually killed more than lice.

A word to people on the fence when it comes to neo-Nazism: these people may have sincerity or its appearance on their side, but sincerity isn't the same as truth, particularly when it's asking you to abandon skepticism.
Don't claim to "know" more than you know.

>>74615289
Great. thanks.

>>74615413
Now before I move on to my next argument to debunk I'll throw this out there- sources say the Haavara Agreement helped UP TO 120,000 Jews.

>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article, "pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the world: the Jewish question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more effectively.

This was a major effort by both groups.

Not exactly what I would call the beginnings of a holocaust.

Now where are the Jews attesting to this? Where are the articles in our history books?
Why has this been everything short of hidden?

>>74615652
Whats fucking your country worse? Russia or muslims?

Or my country?

>>74615751
Oh and a source for that

>Jacob Boas, "A Nazi Travels to Palestine," History Today (London), January 1980, pp. 33-38.

>>74615869
And to further fuck your shit up

>According to the census of June 16, 1933, the Jewish population of Germany, including the Saar region (which at that time was still under the administration of the League of Nations), was approximately 505,000 people out of a total population of 67 million

20 percent of German Jews helped to Palestine.

Really loved the documentary too

unfortunately ive a very basic knowledge of what happen during ww2 so the guy couldve said basically anything and i wouldve been forced to believe him. So im forced to just stay neutral

>>74598069
The Saar offensive did nothing to defend Poland

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>>74615413
"and for the Nazis it was seen as a way of breaking the Anti-Nazi boycott of 1933, which had mass support among European Jews and was thought by the German state as a potential threat to a fragile German economy"
>Get the fuck out of our country
>Good, now our sanctions are lifted
Wow what a hero

>>74616013
Man, while we are talking statistics

>In 1939, there were officially nearly 15,700,000 Jews in the world.
>After the World War 2, there were over 18,000,000 Jews.
>6,000,000 were allegedly gassed, leaving only some 9,000,000-plus Jews on Earth
Wow somehow the population doubled!

Sources.

>New York Times February 22nd 1948
>American Jewish Commitee

>>74616192
>Jews are killing the German economy 6 years before war even breaks out
>Before Hitler even became Chancellor of Germany

Keep digging that hole Canacuck.

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>>74615751
That's the same logic as implying (there's only an implication here) that the invasion of Russia didn't happen because of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
Or that the Munich agreement meant that Czechoslovakia lost no more land to Germany after said agreement.

Not an argument, a deflection.

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>>74615413
Also I like how you 'call me out' for using insults and then you call me an idiot, way to go on the hypocracy there big guy, +10 points 4u.
Laws against holocaust denial does not mean the holocaust was fabricated in any way, poor argument.
And you need to adress specifically the things you're dismissing

>>74616455
No no no, we're discussing motives and planning here. His quote was that Hitler intended to kill all the Jews. Not repatriate them. Surely not even use German funds and resources and planning.

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>>74616436
>Implying the treaty of versailles didn't happen
>Implying blaming anything on the jews disproves the holocaust
>Implying you're not just going in circles and just grasping at straws
And wow, there's that name calling again, way to boost your credibility there bud!

>>74616528
You can argue the motives behind censorship but that doesn't legitimize them nor does it mean they are honest motives.

>We just don't want people to return to being Nazis
Once again you prove the aim is the subversion of European thinking to emasculate them not only to antisemitism but to make them disinterested in national sentiment.

Look how well that has turned out friendo. And with the United States firmly in Israel's pocket and Israel armed with nukes and a better military than any European nation, what really do they have to fear?

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I watched the other one that goes for 3.5 hours.

You find out that Hitler was actually one of the only ones who stood up against Zionism and the Jew order that is why they destroyed him.

When i found this out i was mourning his and Nazi germanys destruction for a week.

JFK is the same, he was standing up and they killed him too.

More and more people are waking up everyday and learning the truth.

You just have to remember that if 1 man like hitler can stand up against this and red pilled an entire nation once....then it can happen again.

>>74616808
>>Implying the treaty of Versailles didn't happen
We're talking the economic recovery, years later that the Jews were trying to destroy.
>Implying blaming anything on the jews disproves the holocaust
I haven't even started, I only have proved that the intent of Hitler was not extermination.

>>74615755
Russia obviously. stop asking stupid irrelevant questions.

>>74598216
He's basically saying don't kill yourself we need you.

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>>74616946
You've proven nothing.
The facts are that the nazis killed 6 million jews using multiple methods such as gassing and shooting, and hitler has multiple references to extermination of the jews prior. Even if it wasn't his intention during the 30's, it sure as hell fucking happened anyway

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>>74616946

>>74617281
Hitler was justified in killing Judes

>>74617217
>I wish those traitorous Jews had died
>Once internationalists who poison the people with globalism die can we become nationalists
>tried to mask Hitler's views on eugenics as intent to kill Jews

This is some real disingenuous shit.

>>74616832
>Turned a party of 9 into 8m

That's some serious charisma.

kill yourself faggot.

>>74616539
Sure, I wasn't meaning to interject in the argument, only to say that I'm tired of seeing references to sentiments expressed pre-war as mind-blowing evidence that Germany wasn't the evil Jew-chomping machine the dumb dumb bluepill narrative makes them out to be, particularly when Nazi Germany brazenly broke the two most important treaties they signed.
Now, during the war, deportation of the Jews wasn't possible, and the desire and motive of the Nazis to remove the Jews from Germany and Europe more broadly is universally agreed upon (a lot of the reasoning was valid, too), so all the admission that the Jews were a people the Nazis wanted gone is only making the motive for deliberate mass murder sound more and more plausible. Of course, there are other questions, and the fact that the supposed "death camps" all fell behind the USSR's lines makes the whole thing even more suspicious, but acting like it's a no-brainer that the Nazis dindu nuffin is silly when 99% of neo-Nazis would support the Nazis if every "absence of evidence" question raised by doubters were immediately put to rest tomorrow, and most of them base a large part of their reverence for the Nazi cult on the idea that they would have killed all those Jews.
They already killed off disabled people before the wars even began, so calculated cold-blooded murder is not something against the Nazi ethos.

>>74617423
>I want them dead
>Kills them
Real disingenuous :^)

>>74617346
Wars have occurred for far lesser reasons, trifles over territories. We're talking a people who
>we're subverting and eradicating German culture
>attempting a Communist takeover
>robbed the people during the economic collapse

I don't get it, no one demonizes the Chinese or Turks nearly as much as Germany.

>>74590947
Does it ever mention Central Banking the in the documentary? Because some say Hitler was against Central Banking while others like Alex Jones says he was the biggest puppet of the banks.

>>74592986
stfu paranoid schizophrenic.

>>74596224
sure

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>>74617556
No, he wished the traitor ones were dead. I would too, especially the shit they pulled during the Spartacist Uprising and onward to the attempted coup to make the German SSR.

>>74617556
sure

>>74617541
>and the fact that the supposed "death camps" all fell behind the USSR's lines makes the whole thing even more suspicious

The whole "Righteousness" of the "Great Patriotic War" was a massive propaganda used to keep the Russians supportive of the communist party.
Nevermind that 500,000 Russians fought in the SS against their own.

>>74617878
Except communism was just a response to the terrible conditions of the Germans. The commies in Germany didn't know it would end up killing a bunch of people they were trying to do the right thing.

>>74611998

>Ashkenazi jews 40 percent more like for schizophrenia

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.560128

http://archive.is/izIw4

>>74617495
Hopefully you have cancer

>>74618149
I am sorry I called you names. I am drinking and it makes me into a passionate and somewhat mean person.
That said- Hitler said it best

>The second reason is the rise of Marxism. Marxism, as a conception of the world with disintegration for its aim, saw with keen insight that the trade-union movement offered it the possibility in the future of conducting its attack against the State and against human society with an absolutely annihilating weapon. Not with any idea of helping the worker -what is the worker of any country to these apostles of internationalism? Nothing at all! They never see him! They themselves are no workers: they are alien litterateurs, an alien gang! . . .

>One had to inoculate the trade union with the idea: You are an instrument of the class war and that war in the last resort can find its political leaders only in Marxism. What is then more comprehensible than that one should also pay one's tribute to the leadership? And the tribute was exacted in full measure. These gentlemen have not been content with a tithe: they demanded a considerably higher rate of interest.

>>74618541

>This class war leads to the proclamation of the trade union as simply an instrument for the representation of the economic interests of the working classes and therewith for the purposes of the general strike. Thus the general strike appears for the first time as a means for exercising political power and shows what Marxism really hoped to gain from this weapon - not a means for the salvation of the worker, but on the contrary only an instrument of war for the destruction of the State which opposed Marxism. To prove to what lengths this whole madness could go we Germans have an unprecedented example, as frightful as it is instructive, in the War.

(Hitler discussed what could have been done in regards to the trade unions striking which crippled Germany and forced the end of WW1, omitted for comment space constraints)

>That is what should have been known then, and it could have been known. We should have known it....

>It was a crime that this was not done. It was not done because it would have violated the inner meaning of Marxism, for Marxism wanted only the destruction of Germany. . . . For since the days of November, 1918, millions of Germans have held the view that it was the fault of the German workingman which caused the country's collapse. He who himself had made such unspeakable sacrifices, he who had filled our regiments with the millions of their riflemen - he as a class was suddenly made collectively liable for the act of the perjured, lying, degenerate destroyers of the Fatherland. That was the worst that could have happened, for at that moment for many millions in Germany the community of the people was shattered....

>>74618541
It's alright you called me names, you say some nasty things when you are drunk. What you told me about communism was interesting, what was Hitlers view on banking where the banks print the money out of thin air? Some say Hitler was an enemy of the banks, others like Alex Jones says he was their puppet.

>>74617541
Oh I forgot
>They already killed off disabled people before the wars even began, so calculated cold-blooded murder is not something against the Nazi ethos.

You have a decent point there.

>>74618733
Alex Jones is pure disinfo that's why.

>>74618996
How so? He exposes the UN, 9/11, Central banking, the surveillance state, gun control, if he's disinfo he's doing a bad job. He also supports Trump.

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>>74590947
Pile of bodies are one layer above the rest of the picture.
>muh 6 gorrillion
>muh shoah
kek

>>74618733
He definitely hated the banks and their Jewish owners. One example is when Hitler had the German government confiscate the bank of Louis Nathaniel de Rothschild. He also confiscated much of Rothschild's wealth including his extensive art collection (which was mentioned in the movie "Monuments Men)
Rothschild was detained while attempting to leave Austria but eventually released to Britain.

>>74619082
Yeah he'll talk about all that stuff and the next minute he'll be talking about chemtrails, ayylmaos and other nonsense. That's the point, to make the legitimate stuff look like it's on the same level as all the crackpot shit he talks about.