I fucking told you guys this is how pedo sex would come about
I've been telling you people this shit for YEARS now, and no one listened
You dont get pedosex allowed by having adults push for it.. you get it by having CHILDREN push for it
>"IM 12! I HAVE BOOBS! I SHOULD BE ABLE TO FUCK A 30 YEAR OLD! IM OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT SEX IS AND KNOW IF I WANT IT OR NOT!"
The push for letting children make their own sexual decisions will come from them, and itll be seen as "sexual liberation for young sexual beings"
Just listen to her arguments, they ignore the fact that at those ages you're far to immature to make a reasonable intelligent decision about these things, but "muh sexual identity" "muh sexual rights" and suddenly you have libfags nodding along that she should be allowed to fuck whomever she wants because "shes old enough to know!"
Combine that with stories like the 16 and 18 year old lesbian couple that were dating when they were 16 and 17, but as soon as the 17 eyar old hit 18, the parents of the 16 year old pressed charges of statutory rape and had libfags in tears over it crying how that shouldnt be illegal
And combine that with them pushing for 5 6 7 8 year olds to be able to make "gender identity" decisions and take hormones and such because "they KNOW WHO THEY ARE! LET THEM DECIDE THEIR OWN LIFE!"
And suddenly that all adds together and you have 10 year olds who are going to insist they know what sex is and are in love with the neighbor thats 30 and want to have sex with him and of course you'll have libfags pushing for it to be legal "as long as its her choice!"
I told you this is how it would happen. I fucking told you. And here it is, still chugging right along.
"Pedo rights" will be a thing in our life time guys. So I guess if you're into lolis or some shit, good for you, you'll probably be allowed to bang 8 year olds legally in your life time
>>31601198 You're right, but the thought of delicious young lolis is too alluring.
I watched a special update episode of "Kate Plus 8" on TLC last night. Holy moley. I would lolicaust all those little gook daughters. It's even better now that John's out of the picture, they need an older male figure in their lives.
FYI, part two is tomorrow night. My body is ready.
>>31600888 >implying she's wrong People were getting married around that age and starting families for thousands of years up until pretty much the late 20th Century. Now we delay childhood into the mid-twenties when females are at the very end of their childbearing prime. And you fags wonder why the white race is dying.
I was gonna fap to her, but, apparently, she's not a virgin. Fucking dropped.
>>31602165 >Implying this isn't true. Go to a college/university campus, it's fucking weird how insulated students are from reality and responsibility. A good chunk can't cook for themselves or even do their own laundry.
>>31600888 yeah, what about her rights as a normal human being? seems like a lot of the right just doesn't care about normal human drives, they make it dirty, illegal,an issue of morality,and neglect their wishes all together
>>31601198 This. It's about removing the parents from the equation. We'll see more more responsibility dealt upon children while the family is replace with government services that step in when things go awry. Pedos know the best strategy at this point ISN'T lobbying for their sexual right to fuck children. Instead, they want to absorb younger generations in a sexualized environment and allowing them to 'choose' who they sleep with. Pedos love this because it removes any responsibility they would have otherwise had. This is the worst case scenario because it ultimately means that children are going to be exposed to the fires of degeneracy with no real safety net. This is why AOC laws were initiated because 11-12 years old were getting knocked up and would roam the streets naked......no food, no shelter.
Now, if you're going to have a long term/permanent and monogamous relationship with a younger person, I'd be more lenient. The point is, we've come full circle. We will eventually seen degeneracy take full control and then a full collapse once women who pushed this behavior want to regulate it. But, being women and generally incapable of knowing wtf they actually want, they will try to push regulation into prohibition once they see they have to compete with younger women for men. And then the next stage will bring us right back to where we are today 'fuck off pedo, stop trying to sexualize children you perv she can suck as many dicks as she wants lol virgin'
However this thread is trash and everyone in it, including myself, is a fucking faggot.
>>31602502 >Rape is a normal? for sociopaths. I'd like to see stats on that anon, I find it hard to believe that every rapist is a sociopath. Rape is a pretty common occurrence in nature. You said we shouldn't try to control human drives, yet you seem to have no problem controlling this one.
No, but it should be set federally with close-age exemptions.
>18 is fully legal >16-17 has a three year close-age exemption >14-15 has a two year close-age exemption >13 and below, one year close-age exemption with a required message to parent/guardian
Mind, the reason I support such a system is it prevents (generally) the practice of college kids trolling highschools for 16 year olds. I don't mind younger people having sex (I don't think it's harmful with correct education) but I do believe that young teenagers shouldn't be "fair game" for physically, sexually, socially and emotionally mature people. A three year age exemption counts for, for the most part, anyone a 16 year old could have known personally, such as through school.
On the same token, though, statutory rape, child support, etc laws would also have to be rewritten. Too many problems right now if there's an accidental pregnancy.
Though summarizing it more simply, I think that age of consent is both good and bad. I don't think that within the context of a healthy relationship that AoC is needed, but I do believe that a barrier is needed in order to prevent older people from preying on younger ones. If two 13 year olds or 14 year olds want to go at it then I don't think that needs to be regulated by the government, but I also don't think we should allow older people to seek out relationships with younger people that way. A thirty year old and a fourteen year old do not have "true love" nor are they going to have a sustainable relationship; the younger person is inevitably nothing more than a living sex toy that's going to get thrown away. That kind of attitude and age gap isn't a good idea for the psychological development of younger people, but a revised attitude around same-age sex would not be terribly harmful. The most dangerous part of young sex isn't the sex itself, but how serious we make it. It would be prudent for us to demonize sex less.
I never said every rapist. but one fact about sociopaths that's pretty clear is they don't care about others theres a difference being free to choose something for yourself and to choose something for others
>>31601254 I actually think she's pretty hot. The thing is that she's a 4channer which means she's probably retarded. I wonder how some of these camwhores are treated irl and if they have friends and stuff.
>>31601198 This was a revelation all the way back in 2009 when the movement really started via tumblr and the like. I stopped caring because no matter what it's going to fucking happen and there isn't a single thing I can do about it. Age of consent should be set to 16 across the board and left at that with no way of changing it thereafter. It's a safe number, it's been proven to cause no additional problems and it's common all over europe. That being said we need to figure out what the fuck is going on with hormone changes becoming so frequent in goddam children. 12 year old girls with b and c cup tits is something we need to figure the fuck out and fix. We moved away from the archaic child fucking years ago and we shouldn't be digressing already. >Captcha: 1952
>>31603308 The mental capacity to make abstract and rational decisions does not mean the people have the social conditioning to understand fully the impact of their decisions, nor does your timing account for people to who develop late.
>>31603555 Here is how it SHOULD work... Law is lowered so it reflects biology, and parents impress morality into their children if they can so they choose to wait. When I was a kid, nobody even knew it was a crime as long as you were under 18 too. It was only decades later I learned that a minor can also be charged with statutory rape. Most teens do not even know this.
>>31603316 >>31603342 >>31603375 >>31603461 >>31603467 The fuck is wrong with you lads? I'm very objective when it comes to most things but how in the fuck do you find children attractive? Other than their(possible) tits and ass they still look like little kids and it might just be me but that aint dick material. You like what you like but I don't see the lust/beauty in it
>it does not account for people who develop late >it does not give children enough time to socially condition themselves about something that requires responsibility >it forces children in a situation where contraceptives must be their only option or else they harm their own bodies >if they don't use contraceptives, it makes the structure of our families far more flimsy than they already are
>>31603765 Hell no, bitch. You're getting that jailtime.
>>31603840 >Well that is where the comment about age comes from. In the age range 12 is in you develop the capacity for abstract and rational decisions. At that point, you should be allowed to experiment for yourself. Either your parents or sex ed should teach you how to practice safe sex, but the decision on whether or not TO have sex should be the decision of the minor, not some bureaucrat who thinks he knows everything.
>>31603840 >people who develop late ok so when she gets her first period which is getting earlier and earlier >socially condition about sex u fookin wut m8 >contraception this is necessary at all ages if you don't want babby
>children commits a serious crime >this nigga knew what he was doing. His mind is developed enough to fully understand the consequences of his actions. Trail him as an adult and give him life in jail if possible.
>children has sex >kids are so innocent and pure. They still don't know anything about the world. Please protect our children and give this pedos life in jail.
>>31603747 Little girls are just so pretty and perfect. They don't ruin their skin with cosmetics and they're genuinely nice. And they're nice and small the perfect size for lifting and cuddling, the size difference is an important thing. And they have soft smooth skin. And other stuff too, they're just great.
>>31603962 >At that point, you should be allowed to experiment for yourself.
Why? The minors bodies clearly aren't prepared for it and enforcing contraceptive use on minors is never, ever going to fly with the "my body, my rules" morality we have now. You're basically making it legally acceptable for women to hurt themselves physically and our society have to account for their inability to care for themselves and be prepared for a stable family nor what that even means.
>Either your parents or sex ed should teach you how to practice safe sex,
They do, at an older age once they are developed enough mentally and bodily.
>not some bureaucrat who thinks he knows everything.
Why not? They know far more about social planning than someone with a focus on self-interest.
Now have an argument that is just emotional pleas for rights. Come on now.
Periods are not the only thing to account for here when we're talking about a woman preparing for a child.
>u fookin wut
If you are to make a responsible decision you should have more life experience to know what that really means. We already know 18-20 year old families have a hard enough time as it is.
>this is necessary at all ages
The difference is having one could seriously affect the woman who probably doesn't know better about her body nor the undertaking having a child is. This just enables the falling out of the family unit on a larger scale than the past 50 years.
>>31604276 stop being a pussy and rail on that. All men yearn to fuck hot fertile jailbait pussy and feel busty fresh breasts in there face as they cum inside that fertile body. The lack of common sense just makes it easier.
>>31604356 >enforcing contraceptive use on minors is never, ever going to fly with the "my body, my rules" morality we have now abortion >They do, at an older age once they are developed enough mentally and bodily. once a bitch has her period her body is ready >Why not? They know far more about social planning than someone with a focus on self-interest. nigga u serious? >Periods are not the only thing to account for here when we're talking about a woman preparing for a child. sex is about procreation >If you are to make a responsible decision you should have more life experience to know what that really means. We already know 18-20 year old families have a hard enough time as it is. get a job >The difference is having one could seriously affect the woman who probably doesn't know better about her body nor the undertaking having a child is. This just enables the falling out of the family unit on a larger scale than the past 50 years. thanks feminism
>>31602422 Age of consent laws were initiated in America because teenage girls were going to work in cities at the end of the 1800s. Far from home, they were dating and exploring their sexuality. Women's movements started organizing for age of consent laws in the name of "morality". They wanted to stop them from having sex with anyone. While part of it was moralistic, part of this was likely reducing competition from these girls. If you're 14 would you rather be working 12 hr days in a factory, 6 days a week, or married to some guy?
>>31600888 Being an ultra-authoritarian nationalist, I should be inclined to say no.
But in reality, as long as your body is ready I don't see the problem. Sure, it may be "degeneracy" but I too lost my virginity at 14/15. Instead, I would make there be insane societal pressure for people having sex to commit to one another similar to how it was in the 20s and 30s
I think a selfish person who promotes self-interested attitudes is far worse. There is a reason why "free love" has only hurt the structure of our families and created more struggle for future generations. Go fuck yourself.
Minimum age for sex should be 30. Too many shitheads having too many shithead kids in their teens and 20's. Mandatory abortions on first fuckup followed by abortion and tying/snipping on the second fuckup. Also, no more than 3 kids following your license at 30.
>>31600888 I'm going to say no because fuck this bitch. In fact, you should have to pass an intelligence test to have sex. Wait, that would force most of us to be gay to fuck. Nevermind.
When I was a senior in high school, there was a fourteen year old girl with huge breasts who sat next to me and would rub my knee during class. Would have hit it, but she was just so immature that it really made it feel super awkward to think about.
I think it's fine in my state where it's sixteen. I'm not fucking any sixteen year olds, but if that's your prerogative, go for it.
>>31605376 As someone who took a child development class, there is higher risk of complications and birth problems when a 14 year old girl is giving birth. The best time is in her late teens and twenties. Before and after that, you increase the risk of problems for the mother and the child.
>>31606467 That by age 8 children can make decisions based on right and wrong and that by age 12 (and some psychologists argue that the age is lower) children are at the mental stage of development that they'll be in their whole lives. As for the underage birth thing, well, all I have is anecdotes. I've personally met (as well as everyone who I've heard about) pregnant 12 year olds, and they had no problems both during intercourse and in pregnancy.
>>31606580 So how about disproving anything that has been said instead of going >ur dumb u took a class and I didn't, but ur class is dumb therefore ur wrong with nothing to go against you except name calling and I suck dicks professionally
Can we all just agree that vaginal intercourse should be legal by the time the girl has hit her period or the boy can ejaculate and nothing before that? Also that child pornography should be legal at any age?
>>31607100 >being retarded By age twenty you hit skeletal maturity. Fuck nigger, did you even go to school? http://www.med.unc.edu/www/newsarchive/2011/may/unc-study-pelvic-widening-continues-throughout-a-person2019s-lifetime Also it turns out that the pelvis keeps growing after twenty, just at a much slower rate. Interesting.
>>31607645 I'm not the one pretending that there's zero health risks with a young teen having a child. I have no problem. >>31607665 >cherry picking just down syndrome http://www.health.am/gyneco/more/risk-of-certain-birth-defects-higher-in-teen-moms/ http://www.ivf1.com/age-birth-defects/
Fuck you moot you kike, I'm not buying a 4chan pass.
>>31607533 >>31607466 It broke my heart when they raised it, used to love fooling around with 14-year olds. If the youngest you can go is 16, you might as well just wait until they're 18 and avoid the potential hassle.
>>31607717 Did you even read the things you what you just posted?
>“The maternal age pattern of risk differs between countries, suggesting that it is not biological age that is associated with risk of nonchromosomal congenital anomalies, but reproductive, social, ethnic, exposure, or lifestyle factors that have a different relationship with maternal age in different European countries,” the investigators point out.
>>31607854 It's fucking tempting some days, man. I live pretty close to the high school and some of these girls have dynamite bodies. >sister comes by my apartment right after school >brought her friend with her >those fat, heaving tits >that perfect peach-shaped ass >those dick-sucking lips It's like being a fat kid left alone in the room with a coconut cream pie.
>>31608041 Are you kidding? It's ridiculous! It's stereotyping all men over the age of 18 to be predators! Spain's age of consent (last I checked) was 13. However, they have a law against using manipulation or deceit in getting into their pants. Also, what's this crap about how a 14 year old and 30 year old can't have a loving relationship? This is absolute malarkey, and you should kill yourself for even suggesting it.
>>31601198 >Combine that with stories like the 16 and 18 year old lesbian couple that were dating when they were 16 and 17, but as soon as the 17 eyar old hit 18, the parents of the 16 year old pressed charges of statutory rape and had libfags in tears over it crying how that shouldnt be illegal Is this true? Holy shit, that is too hilarious.
>>31601198 I don't think pedo rights are a liberal thing. The whole lesbian thing isn't a pedophile matter. The only reason the parents pressed charges is because they were mad their daughter is a lesbian. And as far as letting your kid take hormones and identify themselves the way they see fit. The kid doesn't have the right to consent to those things by themselves the parents give consent along WITH the child. A child taking drugs given to them by an adult to help them become the gender they identify with is the same as a child having sex with an adult. It's illegal for the adult unless a parent consents. You're really ignorant but I know you're mind is in the right place in some aspect. I don't think children need to be able to consent to have sex with an adult but teenagers experiment with other teenagers close to their age is only natural. And inb4 libfag comments, call me that if you wish but I don't subscribe to any political parties and there are issues where I'm on different sides or in the middle.
>>31609167 But it would be desirable. Just think about all those poor children in orphanages that could be making a good living by prostitution. Its thanks to feminist hookers that we lost them in the 20s.
the reason there is age of consent is that the elite can take their time to pick the cherrys from the girls. Why do you think underage activity is prolific in hollywood and washington? they elites want first dibs on some women, just like the rights of first night in old ages
>>31605562 >By 8 years old, the human mind has a moral understanding between right and wrong.
I would go as far as 8. But you guys are charging them slenderman girls as adults at age 12 as it's a violent crime. Yet if they sucked some guys cock you'd scream to the hills about how they didn't understand their actions and it was wrong because their brains are underdeveloped.
The point of marriage is to produce families and to procreate, 14 year old girls are almost always fertile, therefor I see no reason to restrict it so high at 18. My personal vote would be 13 or 14, which is what it used to be in more historic times.
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