What exactly is wrong with having multiple wives/harem so long

>>140517140
Sauce plz

>>140517140
The gender ratio is ~1:1 so you end up with a massive revolt from the men who do not get women.

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What's wrong with not being a promiscuous degenerate?

>>140517140
Im a married man. i can't imagine what my esteem would look like after being denied for sex twice as much.

you only have one dick my friend...

>>140518570
Just use your army of progeny to put down the beta rebellion.

>>140518175
hentai

>>140518964

But that one dick produces sperm constantly. Not like pussy, pussy gets pregnant and that's a wrap for the remainder of the year.

>>140519010
Don't you have migrants to take?

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>>140517140
nothing but since there are not more women then men it would lead to a massive incel bulge overload in society. Such societies don't tend to prosper.
If men have a family they provide for they have a real project to manage. Keeps them calmer and society more peaceful in general.

>>140518570

But those guys must have really bad genes if women would rather share 1 guy with multiple women than be with that beta male. Why Would we even want those rejected male genes in the future?

>>140517140
>>>>islam
>having multiple wives/harem so long as the husband loves them and can manage to support all thier needs and the offsprings
every man ever: i can
1400 years later: "allahu akbar"

>>140519236
I wanted to give you sauce but it seems like you don't want it :^)

>>140519588
I'm cool- blew a load to the still image

>>140519466
I think Theres is a turkish soap opera about that

>>140519729
Sucks when you finnish before finding what you are looking

>>140518966
accept most of them will be betas too and will side with your enemy, polygymous societies are inherently unstable, thats why most o fthe civilisations that have made it this far subscribe to a pair bonding model

>>140520061
except*

>>140518957

THIS

>>140517140
>What exactly is wrong with having multiple wives/harem
You are depriving beta males of healthy, monogamous relationships that incentivize them to be productive members of society with a stake in the future.

Monogamy is the a key component of civilization. It motivates the beta male to produce and contribute to society more than he would if he were providing for only himself.

What you're suggesting is common in shitholes like Africa and the Middle east where "alphas" hog all the males and the betas are so disenfranchised that they will blow up themselves for a shot at 72 virgins.

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>>140517140
absolutely nothing. the harem is the natural state of relationship between a man and women.

>>140517140
Source on image?

harems are degenerate, even if they weren't most people cant function in those kind of relationships

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>>140520496

Based Nippon understands.

>>140518966
The progeny expect women as well, and there won't be enough for them. You'll run out eventually. Besides, you'd then plunge society into a constant state of civil war and unrest. This is a surefire way to completely wreck a nation. Usually what happened before if there were too many men and not enough women you'd start a war and send them all to either die or capture foreign women.

>>140519461
Sharing isn't a big biological no-no for women as it is for men. Plus you are assuming women are logical like men, they are not. Their mating instincts are really primitive, they'd take Mr. Swagboy over a 200IQ Engineer. In a "matriarchal society" the IQ will drop overtime, not increase. Afterwards it just collapses.

http://hentaihaven.org/rin-x-sen-ran-sem-cross-mix-episode-1/
>>140518175

>>140520531
Hentai

>>140520993
Fuck yea thanks. Time for rounds 2 through 8

Only can happen when you treat women as inferiors. If you treat women as equals or betters, there's no way they'd share a man.

>>140521206
won't work as well
see >>140520945
there's a reason the middle east has so many wars even after decolonization

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>>140520496
This man here is absolutely correct.

>>140520496
>>140520662
>only people pro-harem are anime watchers
lmao you fucking nerds couldnt even get 1 wife, pure delusion

>>140517140
I can understand from a legal standpoint there are problems with it due to the benefits married couples get. morally I think it should be allowed.

One woman should be allowed to marry multiple men as well to soak up all the betas that are left over.

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>>140520496
>>140521668
These anons get it.

>>140522166
forgot to say, I may just have this opinion since having multiple wives is pretty common here. Lots of blacks do it, but I think you are limited to 1 new wife every 8 years or something in most religions here.

>>140520945
>Their mating instincts are really primitive, they'd take Mr. Swagboy over a 200IQ Engineer.

Super high IQ like that is a sickness/disorder just like super low IQ is. Ideally you want someone with a above average/superior IQ with also a healthy body.

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Nothing...

Except when the harem is a fake online sect that is not actually fucking or producing offspring and need to be hunted and killed for participating in ritual abuse.

>>140521846
Harem anime is my guilty pleasure, but I don't think for a second polygyny would work as actual policy without genetic engineering to change the gender birthrate ratio. At that point you'd probably already have full-immersion VR anyway so it's pointless.

(Polyandry isn't even worth considering, obviously.)

>>140522650
I should have been more specific; I meant women are in general more attracted to a dumb junkie than to a smart introvert.

>>140517140
in this day and age, with our demographics and welfare state, absolutely nothing

chads that want to raise families and have children can have as many wives and children as they can afford

betas can continue not having sex and playing video games

indeed, the best thing for the white race at this point would be for wealthy benefactors to pay white chads to have as many kids as possible. you could mix it up by selecting for nobel laureates, great musicians as well

>>140517140
ugly NEETs get jealous, hopeless, and commit suicide because if Chads can have multiple women, they will get zero.

So nothing wrong really, all positives that I can see.

>>140522920
>without genetic engineering to change the gender birthrate ratio.
thats not even needed. all you have to do is abort more males if thats what you want. just abort males with any minor defects while keeping most females.

or more wars. thats how the niggers keep the male population low enough for it to work.

combining that with the condition that you must be able to support multiple wives it would be pretty easy to balance it.

>>140523389
>all you have to do is abort more males if thats what you want
You'd never garner support for that.

>or more wars
That's not really reliable or even desirable. You're sending good men out to die.

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>>140522920

Chicks dig the quiet cool types. Just becauae you're an introvert it doesn't mean you're a beta.

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>>140522920
I'm also a big fan of harem anime and manga (Love Hina, Ichigo 100%, Umi no Misaki, Minamoto Kun Monogatari, Ai Yori Aoshi, and more)

But harems IRL cause a lot of problems. For one man to have 2 wives, it means another man has to have 0 wives. All the power, sex, and wealth gets concentrated into the alpha rich at top. And then the beta poor men at bottom don't contribute to society, don't work, just jack off and play vidya all day.

>>140524104
Never said anything about being beta. In my experience most women simply prefer extroversion over introversion.

so many arguments in this thread are based on the idea that betas are somehow valuable and contribute something to society that alphas do not. this is false. by their definition, betas are expendable and should not be reproducing

an ideal society would be a few million men with the best genes competing for a few billion women. if they can't get laid the losing alphas are either killed or more realistically given money and hedonism to enjoy themselves.

do you find this argument far fetched, this is literally exactly what is happening RIGHT NOW. the so called globalistists/elites are the alpha families with the highest IQs, healthiest genes, greatest social cohesion. they are already practicing eugenics in terms of their selection, their children are born stronger, smarter, healthier than yours could ever hope to be. and rather than culling the betas off, they're just lulling them into a stupor. after the global population has been reduced by a few billion they'll institute something like the above plan and replace the labor of now extinct betas with robots

tldr here, they wrote down their plan for you to read

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

>>140521192
Check out the pollinic girls attack.

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>>140518570
How about planned parenthood to reach needed gender ratio?

>>140524699

BUT

The super elite families all practise incest to keep all the wealth and power in the family.

>>140524104
>>140524493
American women just want to do drugs and party. If your a quiet strong but silent type- odds are, you won't get invited to too many parties. Women especially don't want to be around you if your a lone-ranger type who doesn't have many friends.

Drug dealers always seem to have a lot of women around them. Even if they are ugly, if they supply the drugs, then women will flock to them.

>>140517140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5REqSSLsnOc

>>140524906
Jesus dude I'm running out of cum

>>140524699
Alphas rule, betas work. Society of only ruler will flop as there are no people to do work.

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>No dark skin gril
Dropped

>>140521466
>there's a reason the middle east has so many wars even after decolonization

That and areas east of the Hajnal Line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajnal_line) used cousin marriage to cement power within a family.

Problem is that generations of cousin marriage lead to a shockingly high percentage of citizens being inbred.

>Super high IQ like that is a sickness/disorder just like super low IQ is.

What the fuck are you talking about? You can have a high IQ and a healthy body. The separation only came about because you watch too many movies written by neurotic jews which presented "Nerds vs Jocks". Which is funny because Plato was a championship wrestler and an award winning lyricist (IIRC). Hell, his birth name was Aristocles but he picked up the nickname "Plato" on account of his broad shoulders.

>>140525275
Just to name a few more:
15 Bishoujo Hyouryuuki

Kateikyoushi no Onee-san The Animation H no Hensachi Agechaimasu

Koutetsu no Majo Annerose - Steel Witch Annerose

>>140517140
A man can own as many cunts as he can afford to buy and support.
> b-but muh gender ratios
Simple solution: just have female babbies, not hard.

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>>140525155

What if you're the quiet low key cool drug dealer?

Introverts actually make the best drug dealers because they can avoid heat.
Pic very related.

>>140524699
Perceived worth is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that this "transition" would (and does) wreck a modern high-trust civilization easily. You're then left with a nigger-tier low-trust cut-throat society where men stab each other in the back daily. Also the decay has even reached the top (((families))).

>>140525878
>modern civilization is high-trust

>>140526072
It is in homogeneous countries like Estonia.

>>140517140
What exactly is wrong with having multiple husbands/harem so long as the husbands love her and can manage to support all her needs and the offsprings?

>>140525732
If you've heard of Jay-Z and he's famous, then obviously, he isn't a quiet low key drug dealer.

>>140517140
Historically masses of unattached men is not good for societies. If you can send them to the frontier, or use them to invade a neighbor or conquer then it's mitigated. Note that this problem that is often brought up in regards to China and India, but allowing the top 20% of men to horde all the women leads to the same situation. Also note that I said "unattached" not "undersexed" brothels won't solve this problem. As men generally need to have someone to protect ( wife and kids) to keep them from wreaking havock.

>>140517140
>so long as the husband loves them
You clearly have no idea what love is. You cannot love more than 1 person in your life in romantic way.

>>140528094

Yes you can.

>>140524476
>And then the beta poor men at bottom don't contribute to society
Which is precisely the reason, why all tribes that rise up to civilization, introduces some sort of marriage culture for at least the middle class. The rich often keep their multitude of wives, and the lower classes are sometimes not allowed to marry / as they like, or only with permission from their betters, but "marriage" seems to be one of the foundations of advanced society.

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This sums it all up perfectly.

>>140528238
No you can't. You obviously never loved any woman truly, deeply, so much that you would die for her.

>>140517140
I agree. Lesbianism is also fine provided each woman is in the same harem.

>>140517140
You can't be one flesh with more than one woman.
Also creates an eugenetic élite with all the pretty grills and a disgenic majority with all the shitstains. This isn't manageable in a functioning society. Doesn't matter how good the bosses are, they'll be hell down by centuries of incest amongst their subordinates.

>>140517140
God says do X.

You say fuck God, I want to do Y and Z.

Just fucking do it, and fucking take your punishment for it.

>>140518957
This

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Nothing
Cuckquean females are god tier wife material

It undermines the power of the pussy.

>>140531867
Some virgin said that God says X because he was beta loser and now we need to suffer from not having many wifes.

>>140530949
Sure we have. Several. It would be more convenient to have all our oneiteses at the same time though.

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>>140526275
>Estonians trust NATO to defend them from Russian liberation

>>140518570
that IS currently happening
the 80/20 rule.

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>>140517140

Why the average chink shit have poorly drawed faces?

>>140523718
>You'd never garner support for that.
Feminists already do it

>>140533656

It puts the pussy in it's place

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>>140517140
Degeneracy and immorality

And this is coming from science, not the Bible

>>140517140
It destabilises society. Polygamy is the norm around the world. But monogamous societies always overpower polygamous ones, because they have more stable social dynamics. When every man has a decent shot at mating with a woman, he's more willing to put in effort in his community. Polygamous societies are winner-takes-all, which degenerate into dog-eats-dog situations quite often.

Quintessential monogamous society: classical civilisation (Ancient Rome and Greece).
Quintessential polygamous societies: Arabs.

>>140544247
>But monogamous societies always overpower polygamous ones
Islam overpowering West says otherwise.

>>140517140
It destabalizes the society by having a large amount of unmarried men.

>>140522650
>Super high IQ like that is a sickness/disorder
Translation:
>I am a brainlet with average IQ
Incidentally, this explains a lot about why you're asking such things. Higher IQ individuals are more strictly monogamous. Lower IQ individuals are primitives maladjusted to living in an advanced civilisation, so they crave their ancestral ooga booga environment.

>>140544532
The modern day west is a polygamous society with 80% of woman going after 20% of men.

>>140522650
>Super high IQ like that is a sickness/disorder just like super low IQ is
>being superior is a disorder
>having much greater control over your life and world than what the average person is capable if is a disorder

Is this what they're teaching you fucking kids at school?

>>140544247
>classical civilisation (Ancient Rome and Greece).
BTW Athens were toxic masculinity semi monogamous society. "We must have wives bad we fuck prostitutes on the side because we can. Our most praised politic was largest pimp in the human history and we think this is normal. Also we marry 13 yo old grils to 30 yo men"

>>140523324
Lel, another retarded post by a low IQ baboon.

>>140523389
>all you have to do is abort more males
Which will leave you open to getting steamrolled by any society that does not abort men and consequently has a lot more soldiers available. There's a reason why in every society where infanticide and abortion are practised, if there is a sex imbalance in abortions it is always biased in favour of men: women cannot fight.

>>140520496
This guy gets it

>>140526275
But we are not homogenous. There are Russians here. And I'd trust most shitskins before any Russian.

>>140524699
Nice conspiracy theory cretin. If there is any grain of truth to that plan, it is almost certain to fail. So much for the supposedly high IQ of the """"elites"""" in your guidestone meme.

>>140545732
Mass conscription as only relevant through small part of the history. Before new times wars were fought by elite warriors class due to logistics and now nukes nullify all human waves.

>>140518957
this

>>140525523
The Hajnal Line theory from blogs like hbdchick is bullshit. Northern Europeans are more inbred than southern Europeans (the sole exception being the muslim regions in the Balkans). There is no West-East gradient on how inbred populations in Europe are.
This is a cold hard fact.

I've been in relationships with multiple partners for a little over a year now, honestly its not too hard to manage if you arent socially retarded, and you dont take shit from people with borderline who want too much attention

I know this place is a den of autism but just, communicate with your people, communication is like a magic trick that makes any relationship that isnt fucking terrible work

>>140519829
>that flag
>implying knowledge about soap
feelthy heepie

>>140544532
>>140545369
Fuck off you retarded communist.
The fact that the greeks fucked prostitutes has nothing to do with anything. They did not MATE with prostitutes. Ever heard of bastardy laws? Monogamy = only one legitimate wife with which you can have legitimate children.

>>140547194
>fucking isnt mating
Romania, gentlemen

>>140546275
You have no idea what you're talking about. You're also clearly mathematically illiterate.
But then again, you are a commie, so the mental retardation is implicit.

>>140546339
A married Beta. My wife can't get enough. Lift and be assertive. Get on my level faggots.

>>140547265
>every time I have sex with someone a child is produced
Wow, I knew anglos are puritanical, but I did not expect you to be so clueless about human mating and sexuality.

>>140547501
>Sex isnt mating
>Greeks chose not to cum when they fucked that hot poontang
>its not mating unless you cum inside her

>>140547194
>Monogamy = only one legitimate wife with which you can have legitimate children.
Lol. If you go and fuck prostitutes when having wife your wife would STRONGLY disagrees with your definition of """monogamy""" and your "but i wore rubber it DOESN'T count" will not help at all.

>>140517140

OP, I actually had a harem situation going between myself, my waifu-tier girlfriend, and a female friend. Unfortunately, the female friend ended up going completely insane and wound up sexually assaulting my girlfriend almost immediately after the fact, then physically about a week later.

Women are crazy OP. A one-time threesome is one thing, but most women are far too neurotic to make a permanent harem viable... unless they are being forced into it by their religion, which oftentimes produces an even worse set of circumstances. I'm not saying it's impossible, but you would need to find not just one, but two or more COMPLETELY STABLE women that are COMPLETELY okay with (or better yet, partial to) the arrangement in both heart and mind. And let's be clear about something: Most women are both unstable and impartial to the idea of man-sharing.

>>140548934
you need to get them communicating, a harem that works has the women seeing each other kinda like a family, they need to trust one another, not all women are completely neurotic shitshows, dont put your dick in crazy

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>>140518782
name of the original anime for this pic?

>>140549897
This feudalism like distribution. Problem that feudalism was removed but not replaced with free trade capitalism (objectively more efficient) in the sexual market.

>>140517140

Women are jealous creatures

They've no idea how to share

>>140550057
fate kaleid prisma ilya

>>140550582
Actually, men are the ones who cant share

Trying to get a trap to function in a polygamous relationship is really fucking hard, women are easy so long as they see you as high status

>>140546578
Do you have a source? I'm not trying to troll but I'd love to see if I was bamboozled.

>You will never hatefuck HBDchick and make her admit, during orgasm, that her theory is bullshit.

I know one rich middle aged guy and he has a wife and a few young mistresses
Basically a harem imo

>>140521668
>In most early societies a mans status was determined by his number of wives

That's horseshit

>>140517140
In the short term, not much.

In the long term this arrangement disenfranchises the beta males upon whom any civilized society depends.

Giving up the additional wives is a the trade the alpha makes to enlist the betas and advance society as whole.

>>140524104
Who said I'm quiet just because I'm introverted? I'm just loud in small groups. I assume I prefer small groups because I get to talk more.

>>140551412
its actually not, he's talking before the fall of rome

>>140517140
Wow! Minami-ke sure went in a weird direction.

>>140551433
normally more women are born than men (enough on average for two per man) and with technology that ratio can increase, at the extreme of the spectrum, like japan, its already 8 women per man, the species seems to be moving towards polygamous relationships in general

>>140551575
I'm talking before the start of rome, there was a shitton of polygamy back then but it wasn't nessecarily that strongly connected to status and sometimes was only allowed if your first wife didn't reproduce or something. Greeks were famously monogamist. On the other hand the Persian king did have a banging harem. There was also a LOT of weird sexual customs generally involving women whoring themselves out and a ton of war rape.

I will point out that western society was founded on a bedrock of monogamy all the way from past to present. Mind you, people have always been cheating.

>>140551433
literal beta male uprising

>>140520496
The only reason I even give a fuck about NK is because I don't want you guys to get nuked. I don't care about SK, and they probably don't have the ability to hit the US.

>>140552558
The weak banding together to combat the strong has been an animal behavior for thousands, and probably millions, of years.

>>140551759
>normally more women are born than men
you are full of shit
1.06 boys are born for ever girl born.
there only reason there are more women than men total is because men are more likely to die at every stage of life.

>>140553687
>source: Your ass

>>140552402
>Greeks were famously monogamist.
>he doesn't knows about Solon's brothels
Do they teach special polite correct version of history in Canada now?

>>140551759
>normally more women are born than men (enough on average for two per man
Someone needs to learn a thing or two about human biology.

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>>140555106

>polygamy
>Valued
>collectivist incentive by valuing yourself at the sexual expense of another
>Literally whoring yourself out to feel good about yourself

Wew that flag, brtty gud.

>>140547408
>Lift
I have back problems

>>140526390
I know what you did there but, in the more fair version
I wouldn't mind being a part of a haram if the bitch would pay for my living and everything.

>>140555106
Yeah, and Solon's laws also meant that cuckolds were legally allowed to kill a bull caught in the act.

Greeks were fucking nutty around prostitution though. There were Salons brothels, the temple prostitutes, there were all the young hairless boys letting older men fuck their thighs. Average age of marriage in Greece was 30 so yeah people sought out prostitutes. There was countless cheating, countless war rape, Zeus while in a nominally monogamous relationship in the monogamy fucked countless women behind Hera's back. Nonetheless, Greece definitely was NOT a polygamous society, it was a monogamous society with a shitton of whoring and cheating.

By ancient world standards however, they were nonetheless strident monogamists, which was not the norm. The point I'm contesting more than polygamy not being the norm, was more the idea that status was essentially about showing off how many bitches you got pregnant in ancient society. Not really, I mean kinda, but it wasn't as big a deal as land, money, political prestige, or your pedigree.

>>140555106
Also, referring specifically to "Do they teach special polite correct version of history in Canada now?" - holy fuck yes they made it seem like the just over 20k chinese that stuck around to build the railway, many of them running off to mine gold, single handedly built Canada which then had a population of about 4 million.

I also wasn't taught jack shit about the Greeks and what I've learned I've learned through self-study. I was a decent history student but holy fuck my school was godawful.

>>140554021
where the fuck did YOU get 8 for every 1

>>140549656

They were best friends, almost like family, and did communicate fairly well. The problem was that girl A had some minor underlying issues (like all non-crazy women do,) and girl B had MAJOR underlying issues which she convinced me she had completely dealt with over a long period of time. So yes, I did technically put my dick in crazy, which was a mistake. You can tangibly fault me for allowing myself to be decieved and getting B in on the action.

That being said, if you think you're going to find a woman who doesn't have some sort of issue (even a very minor one that really doesn't ever get diagnosed/ become noticeable) going on in the background, you're basically nuts. This is why, for the longest time, they didn't even have a say in politics... and also why psychiatrists always communicated with the husband about a wife's issues. If you are going to pursue this route, I wish you the absolute best of luck. You will need it.

>>140520496
sauce

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>harem of wives
>believe in following tradition
>hate gays, blacks and jews
>want to destroy Israel
>women should be property
/pol/ is basically muslim

>>140517140
Less attention for kids.
There is a reason monogamous couples are the safest and best way to raise children.
That and women competing for the same husband will make life hell for anyone living there.

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Reminder to all anons to STOP SPOONFEEDING retards like
>>140557907
Instead, tell them how to find the sauce on their own. There is an abundance of tools available to find sauce, so there is no excuse to be begging on 4chan. By feeding saucefags you encourage their ignorance

>>140558651
Thanks 56%, i found it on my own

>>140559868
You're welcome my 70 IQ meme-flag friend

>>140560029
I took a test at mensa and got 135, so fuck off mongrel

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>>140517140
Unironically, a question.
Wouldn't the entire gene pool get down to Africa levels if we all had 8 Wives like the average Congolese/nese?
Think about it. Instead of 8 Women with 8 Men you now have 8 Women with 1 Man.
No wonder they are all fucking their cousins, after a couple of Centuries you're probably related with everyone.

>>140551550
>I get to talk more.
Girls love that. Spend yours talking with her about her favorite TV shows and you're in.