I try to engage in a discussion with atheists as much as possible

>>140391262
fuck off christcuck

>>140391262
Because using circular reasoning like the pic you posted is not going to prove anything to anyone.

>>140391961
fuck off pegan.

>>140392387

It's simple logic.

(1) Jesus is defined as the son of God.
(2) There is historic evidence for the existence of Jesus.
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(3) Therefore, God exists.

>>140392780
the hobo down the street claims he was ubducted by aliens
the hobo down the street exists
therefore, aliens must exist.

>>140393102

Flawed premise, the is no historical evidence for your hobo. Also, that is rather odd company you're keeping there. Unless you there to help him get his life back on track. In that case, good on you.

>>140393230
proof of existence and proof that he was the son of god are two different things.

>>140392780
Jesus might have existed. There may be evidence that he did. But there is absolutely no evidence to support the idea that he is the son of God.

Your Lord is the Chief Archon.

You should come to Gnosis and save your Soul

>>140391262
God is defined as being able to do anything.
If God is able to do anything, is He able to make a mountain more heavy than He is able to lift?

>>140393612

He's literally DEFINED as the son of God, much like a bread is defined as baked dough.

That's like saying you believe in bread, but not in the existence of bread.

>>140393911
wow you're dumb

>>140393911

You yourself confirmed he's able to do anything, so by your own admission he's able to do even that.

It's basic logic, anon.

>>140393911
this is literally the dumbest thing i've ever heard anyone say. "people call him the son of god, so obviously he IS!! DUHH"

>>140393911
Are you baiting?
Bread is defined as baked dough because there is evidence for it being a bahed dough
God is not defined the son of God in the same way. There is no evidence.

>>140394158

It's not what people say he is, it's what he's defined as. You could refer to him as King Kuma N'Dumbe III, and he'd still be the son of God.

>>140394252

If you stopped calling it bread, would it not still be bread?

Q.E.D.

>>140393911

This is why nobody takes you fucking clowns seriously

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Is Christ is a Jew then why is he (as well as everyone else) portrayed as being white-as-fuck in every western bible thumping pamphlet that is dropped in my mail box.

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>>140394349
This has to be bait.

Holy shit, this thread is full of ATHEISTS.

Why isn't this 404'd yet?
>A book told me he was the son of god so he exists!!!!!!!!!!

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>>140391262

You cunt, how incredibly stupid, the stupidity of this argument is irksome!

Hail Vectron!

>>140393230
>the is no historical evidence for your hobo.

GERMAN EDUCATION WAS A MISTAKE

>>140394461

I don't know, but I know that I find it blasphemous to portray him in this way. If we do not know what he looked like, we shouldn't portray him at all and let his Words speak for themselves.

>>140392780
What historical evidence?

>>140394777
>What historical evidence?

Glad you asked. Not many people are actually aware of this, which is one of the main reasons why the West has lost its way.

https://www.bethinking.org/jesus/ancient-evidence-for-jesus-from-non-christian-sources
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

>>140391262
How can you truly believe the Bible when it's literally a book that can/has been manipulated over the centuries?
>Because it's the word of god!
So how do you know for sure it hasn't been modified or edited in some wa-
>BECAUSE IT IS! ALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!

Same goes the other way around OP

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>>140391262
A man in a robe, claiming communion with the "divine". Madness.

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>>140394941
So wait you are not baiting? This is what christians have to defend their religion?
Damn.

>>140394991
>it's literally a book that can/has been manipulated over the centuries?

The Lord influencing his followers to perfect his Word does not constitute "manipulation", anon.

>>140391262
World exists. It was created. Therefor God. Because Cause and Effect is undeniable LAW.

CAUSE > EFFECT. Nothing escapes this law. Not even this world. Therefor it was created by some Logical Power. Randomness does not exist. Only our monkey brains are unable to calculate whether it will be heads or tails.

>>140395170
>literal evidence of forgeries
>IT'S JUST PERFECTING

Ok

>>140395045

There is a bit over one minute between my post and your reply to it. Was that really sufficient time to read, study and comprehend both links?

I think not.

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>>140391262
Convert or die kuffar

>he is called the son of God therefore he is
Bait

>>140392780
Are you actually this retarded? Just because there is historical evidence that a self-declared prophet named Jesus that started the Christian religion existed doesn't mean that he had mystical powers and was the son of God.

>>140395170
How about the faggot-friendly bibles?

>>140395334

Jesus is defined as the son of God. Therefore you can't say: "The son of god existed, but he isn't the son of god."

if OP isn't baiting, he's a retard spouting gibberish.

banworthy shitposting either way

>>140393911
Defined by who? If I write a dictionary and define Bread as a rainbow like substance that radiates helium gas, does it make it so? Im going to guess not. At this point I will assume you're basing your argument on the popularity of the source material and your argument is simply an appeal to authority

>>140393230
There is historical evidence that L. Ron Hubbard existed. He claimed that Xenu exists and that Scientology is the one true faith. Therefore, Xenu exists and Scientology is the one true faith.

>>140392780
>(2) There is historic evidence for the existence of Jesus.
The same evidence that suggests that Jesus is based in at least half a dozen different characters nigger.

>>140395399

I am not aware of those. I think the Lord was quite clear on his views on homosexuality, but I don't think they deserve to be called the f-word. If you're a Christian, you will accept that they are sinners and need guidance, not ridicule.

>>140395045
Do you accept that Socrates existed?

>>140395550
B-But L.Ron Hubbard isn't defined as the prophet of xenu!

>>140395515
>Defined by who? If I write a dictionary and define Bread

This is a common misconception. Dictionaries don't define words. Dictionaries DOCUMENT the definitions of words, much like a photograph documents reality.

>>140395658

Socrates has several primary sources and contemporaneous pieces that attest to his existence. Jesus, not so much.

>>140394991
>>140395261
What forgeries?
Based on the dead sea scrolls we know that the old testament is accurate to a six word difference. Pretty fucking remarkable for a book translated into every world language after being written 2500-3000 years ago.

>>140395455
Muhammad is defined as the prophet of Allah. Therefore you can't say: "The prophet of Allah existed, but Allah doesn't exist."

>>140395550
>He claimed

"Claiming" is not the same as "being defined as".

The former is subjective, the latter objective.

>>140395771
I would like see proof that the definition of Jesus Christ is that of the son of god. Only the bible defines him as such. Many other religious books do not define him as the son of god. Why does the definition the bible gives jesus superior to that which the koran, for example, gives him.

>>140395997

Allah is literally the same god, so if you argument is true, it will only serve to strengthen the evidence for His existence.

>>140395963

Yeah, that Old Testament sure fucking covers a lot about Christ and his deeds.

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You have been brainwashed your whole life. This is how you argue:

>>140391961
Prime example of atheist argumentation

>>140396110
>Only the bible defines him as such.

Again, books don't define anything, they DOCUMENT. Any singular term is defined by its very manner of existence.

>>140391262
Your life is a lie. You can't grasp simple logic, because you don't possess any.

>>140396287
Who defined him as the son of God, then?

>>140395963
You mean the scrolls that are considered heresy by your pedophilic authorities.

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>>140391262
They are the ones that grasp and use logic when arguing, not your side and that's were all the problem is: you don't understand it or you don't want to admit it.

You are defending often obviously nonsensical ideas and beliefs based on nothing concrete and refuting scientific theories, most of the time without even understanding what "theory" means in that context.

If some people are going "lalala can't hear you" it's because they must be tired of hearing people like you repeating the same "arguments" over and over again after they showed you they weren't valid.

>>140396428

His manner of existing as the son of God.

>>140396287
Are you retarded? I know that people with an IQ below 70 are regarded as mentally retarded in Germany. You seem to be unable to understand simple logic

>>140396287
well I belive you have created a falso Idol. Jesus as defined as the son of god never existed. Jesus as a spiritual leader of the time did exist. I reject your definition

>>140396600

You have presented no counter-argument. I wonder why.

When backed into a corner, the atheist will resort to ad hominems.

>>140393819

Being this decieved. I pity you.

>>140396645

You're equivocating an objective definition with your subjective claim. These are not the same thing, and any conclusion you derive from such false premises is wrong by definition.

>>140394941
So what if he existed?

There is no evidence for miracles, hence not the son of god, therefore not proof of god, fuck you loser

>>140396522
So, Jesus was defined by himself as the son of God and documented in the bible, without any further proof than his existence?

>>140396877
>So what if he existed?

Moving the goalposts so soon? Most atheists last longer than you, you must have felt your position to be particularly weak.

I try to engage in a discussion with christians as much as possible because I take my mission to spread logic and reason seriously, but I find it increasingly difficult.

It's so exasperating when christians can't even grasp simple logic. A christian's idea of debate is putting his fingers in his ears and going "lalala, can't hear you".

How do deal with them, /pol/? I'm on the verge of giving up.

>>140396901

It's more like god said he was the son of god. Jesus was much more subtle about who he was, besides the times he said "before Abraham, I am. (Elohim)"

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Gay lefty Bavarian here.

Sorry, guys, I thought I'd have more time spread my wisdom and take this thread over the 300+ replies threshold, but I really haven't slept much last night and I'm feeling really tired now. Let's repeat this tomorrow, shall we? Looking forward to seeing you all again in the next thread!

P.S. Vote Merkel.

>>140391262
Firstly prove to them that there undeniably exists such a thing that has no weight, mass or form, something that has always existed. The word. Then tell them that the creator exists in such a way.

>>140397311

Don't worry friend I got this thread now. I can argue at least as good as you I believe. Sleep tight.

>>140396692
Do you really believe because something is true because it is written in an old book?
Well why don't you believe in Zeus than? Oviously that must be true because he is DEFINED as the highest God in the Olymp. And the stories written about the Olymp and Zeus just DOCUMENTED the life of gods.

SO THERFORE ZEUS MUST EXIST AND HE IS THE HIGHEST GOD

-> Does this sound retarded to you? If yes, you know how retarded your argumentation sounds

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>>140392780
t. atheist pretending to be Christian

Just fuck off.

>>140396006

I am defined as the cousin of the LORD. What do you do now?

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>>140397427

I will never forget you <3

Good night!

>>140392780
(1) Jesus defined himself as the son of God because he was the leader of a small cult.
(2) There is historic evidence for the existence of Jesus and his cult.
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(3) Therefore, your religion is a cult.

>>140397317
An Idea

You cannot understand such things using the same patterns you have been using. To solve, you must grow, to understand, you must transcend your previous state.

Herb for cringey non-sequitur.

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>>140391262
He was God wife's son. Not God's because God does not exists.

>>140391262
/pol/ being Christian is the worst meme on this board. We're overwhelmingly 16-30 year old men in the western world and mostly nonreligious or atheist.

>>140396984

you are such an inbeleivable cunt im surprised u even exist!

You fucking snot eating, finger sniffing, cock ogling, malodorous pervert!!

I´d like to take my shoe and place it quite forcefully up your bottom, you anally wrecked scum.

show me a law that does not burn when i throw it on the fire

Lets try and take this thread back to a more basic question. Why is there anything as opposed to nothing? Any takers?

>>140397819

HAHAHHA God's a cuck.

>>140391262
atheists are the best proof god doesn't exist. forget theology and all the pompous argumentation.

>>140392780
Jesus didnt exist and even if he did he was an underwhelming character. Only ONE person mentioned him that was actually alive at the time (tacitus), and it didnt reference any miracles.

I will concede that God could exist, but if and only if we all agree that God is a cuck.

>>140398266
atheists are best proof ppl can exist without a brain, same as religious fanatics

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>>140398229
Mighty one at that. Cucked out of existence God is.

Man created god, not the other way around.

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>>140398994
No Silly,

Man is God.

We are the Sovereigns.

>>140396877
>>140396984
You are both idiots.
People who write about events 100 and 200 years after they occured are not reliable sources.
The fact you have a jewish zombie turning water into wine, walking on water, turned the religious establishment on its head and literally came back from the dead and no one at the time documented it is proof it is all a giant fairytale.

>>140396143
>What is Isaiah
>What is Daniel

Read the fucking Bible sometime

>>140391262
B8 thread

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>>140398290
>Jesus didnt exist and even if he did he was an underwhelming character.

“About the life and sayings of Jesus Christ there is a stamp of personal originality combined with profundity of insight in the very first rank of men of sublime genius of whom our species can boast. When this pre-eminent genius is combined with the qualities of probably the greatest moral reformer and martyr to that mission who ever existed upon earth, religion cannot be said to have made a bad choice in pitching upon this man as the ideal representative and guide of humanity; nor even now would it be easy, even for an unbeliever, to find a better translation of the rule of virtue from the abstract into the concrete than to endeavour to live so that Christ would approve of our life.” … John Stuart Mill

>>140399538
>Implying

What the fuck do you think the gospels are? Do you have any idea how slowly information traveled in 35 ad? Who knows as well, maybe a shitload of people wrote about it, but you know, it's fucking paper from 2000 years ago so it disintigrated. The fact that there's anything at all about this one specific guy from the goddamn Stone Age is remarkable.

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>>140396901
>So, Jesus was defined by himself as the son of God and documented in the bible, without any further proof than his existence?

“I know men; and I tell you that Jesus Christ is not a man. Superficial minds see a resemblance between Christ and the founders of empires, and the gods of other religions. That resemblance does not exist. There is between Christianity and whatever other religions the distance of infinity. Everything in Christ astonishes me. His spirit overawes me, and His will confounds me. Between Him and whoever else in the world, there is no possible term of comparison. He is truly a being by Himself. His ideas and sentiments, the Truth which He announces, His manner of convincing, are not explained either by human organization of by the ordinary nature of things. The nearer I approach, the more carefully I examine, everything is above me - everything remains grand, of a grandeur which overpowers. His religion is a revelation from an intelligence which is certainly not that of man. One can absolutely find nowhere, but in Him alone, the imitation or the example of His life. I search in vain through history to find the similar to Jesus Christ, or anything which can approach the gospel. Neither history, nor humanity, nor the ages, nor nature, offer me anything with which I am able to compare or explain it. Here everything is extraordinary.” … Testimony at St. Helena - Napoleon Bonaparte

http://www.stempublishing.com/magazines/bt/BT17/1889_319_Napoleons_Testimony.html
https://poptop.hypermart.net/testnapb.html
http://the-american-catholic.com/2008/12/28/napoleon-on-christ/
http://www.angelfire.com/sc3/myredeemer/Evidencep17.html
http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/the-worldwide-legacy-of-napoleon-bonaparte/

>>140391262
What difference does it make if they believe or not ? Why do you want to discuss it ?

>>140394001
>>140394022
>>140394158
>>140394252
>>140394405
Not an argument godless queers.

>>140396232
>>140397517
>Is atheism linked to Autism?
https://archive.is/PsaBw

>Atheists believed to be less moral.
https://archive.is/cOyAj

>Disabling parts of the brain with magnets can weaken faith in God and change attitudes to immigrants, study finds.
https://archive.is/v2iKo#selection-3659.0-3656.2

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>>140394405

"Well then, I will tell you. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne and I myself have founded great empires; but upon what did these creations of our genius depend? Upon force. Jesus alone founded His empire upon love, and to this very day millions will die for Him. . . . I think I understand something of human nature; and I tell you, all these were men, and I am a man; none else is like Him: Jesus Christ was more than a man. . . . I have inspired multitudes with such an enthusiastic devotion that they would have died for me . . . but to do this is was necessary that I should be visibly present with the electric influence of my looks, my words, of my voice. When I saw men and spoke to them, I lightened up the flame of self-devotion in their hearts. . . . Christ alone has succeeded in so raising the mind of man toward the unseen, that it becomes insensible to the barriers of time and space. Across a chasm of eighteen hundred years, Jesus Christ makes a demand which is beyond all others difficult to satisfy; He asks for that which a philosopher may often seek in vain at the hands of his friends, or a father of his children, or a bride of her spouse, or a man of his brother. He asks for the human heart; He will have it entirely to Himself. He demands it unconditionally; and forthwith His demand is granted. Wonderful! In defiance of time and space, the soul of man, with all its powers and faculties, becomes an annexation to the empire of Christ. All who sincerely believe in Him, experience that remarkable, supernatural love toward Him. This phenomenon is unaccountable; it is altogether beyond the scope of man's creative powers. Time, the great destroyer, is powerless to extinguish this sacred flame; time can neither exhaust its strength nor put a limit to its range. This is it, which strikes me most; I have often thought of it. This it is which proves to me quite convincingly the Divinity of Jesus Christ." ... Testimony at St. Helena - Napoleon Bonaparte

>>140400034
That's lovely, have anything relevant on you? Like a source from the time jesus was supposed to be alive which references jesus? There is literally ZERO. Even tacitus was written 70 years after his death.

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>>140395019

“I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.” C.S. Lewis

>>140400103
There are volumes upon volumes of documents we have from that era by authors who actually documented news, belief systems, events - not a single mention of jesus exists. There is literally nothing. For other historical characters even older than jesus substantial proof does exist. If you are christian research what i have said, you will find it is all true. Goodluck

>>140400103
Btw, the gospels were writteln 100 years plus after jesus death by authors we dont even know of... Yeah, really.... Sorry mate.

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>>140391262
>>140392780
>>140393911
Christ-chan's latest party was a hoot!

To the people saying it was written years after his death.... what the hell would you be doing if the Son of God was walking and preaching on earth? I wouldn't be writing about it some book. I would be out there awestruck unable to speak in amazement at the things he did and listen to what he has to say and following Him. Hence the impact of the stories that continue today.

>>140393102
Damn! I knew they existed. Thanks for clearning that up.

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>>140402377
This. Why would you EVER write accounts of things as they happen, or even near when they happen?

It's best to wait decades to write these things down -- y'know, when they're still fresh.

>>140401620
>Volumes and volumes
>From that era

You mean like the annals of Rome? Where the Roman senators wrote about how their governor Pontius Pilate crucified the Jew named Christos?
You mean like

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>Blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe

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>Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy

i hate strawmen, and kike "atheism"

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>Whenever two or three are gathered in my name, I am with you

>>140403019
Tacitus - yes that is correct. Its the best source. 70 years after jesus death. Reliable source. That is all there is.

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>The Holy Spirit descended like a dove, and out cried the voice of God "This is my beloved son, with whom I am pleased"

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>Do not turn my Father's house into a den of vipers

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>>140402739
>wish a nigga would

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>For God created Man in His own image

>>140396110
Look into the foundation of Islam and Christianity and you will find your answer.

>>140401874
>>140401620
The only major source we have for the existence of Xerxes is Herodotus, the guy who said he saw Atlantis sink. So... Prove to me that the Persians invaded Greece.

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>Am I not entitled to do my Father's work?

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>This is my blood, which shall be poured out for you in my eternal covenant

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>Focus not on the storm, but on me

Atheists? More like GAYtheists xDDDDDD

May the peace of the Lord be with all of you <3

>>140400524

Christians want everyone to be saved because we try our hardest to love everyone and spread that love. People who end up on /pol/ usually care about the truth, as the truth is outlawed more and more everyday all around in different Nations. We just want to spread truth to people who haven't heard it so it can set them free really.

>>140401488
Quoting someone who was in the pockets of the Rothschilds (Jews) on Christ.

That's sure to be a balanced view....

>>140391262
Give them a way to experience God. Be honest, and truthful to them, and give them the advantages and morals ect

>>140403692
This is what happens when you base your current world view, moral system and belief system on a fairytale. Do you see anyone doing that for Xerxes? The answer is no. So it is irrelevant. It is not my problem you decide to live your life on a belief system with zero evidence of being true and near zero evidence for even having its hero being alive at all in the first place.

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I am an atheist. That being said, I cannot say for certain I am right, I have "faith" that I am. NO ONE CAN.PROVE ANY RELIGIOUS BELIEF. Jews, Christians, Hindus, Shinto, atheists etc, anyone could be right. I am not going to worship any god because it would be ingenuine and the god would not it anyways. I just adopt life affirming behaviors and live my life.

>>140401488
Nice digits

I believe the bible to exist in the context that it was written by people with some kind of idea of how to live whole. Think of god as the idea of self created guilt. Jesus as the idea of the perfect being. And the holy spirit as the common drive we all have to work together towards perfection of self and community. Now stop talking historicly about the bible learn what each part actually is because its literally a story. Meant to help people along with life and explain the human condition while instilling morality, faith, and hope, for billions and billions of people. And billions of people can't all be wrong about the notion of a higher power. So I'm going with god(s) in this life. Cause you can't be too safe.

>>140391961
Fuck off redneck

>>140403451
Not Pliny? Josephus?
Jesus died in 30 you retard. He was born in 0. That's the whole fucking point of Anno Domini.

How long do you think it would take to send a message from Rome to Israel in 30 ad? Hey Rome, your boy fucked up some important Jewish guy. Rome sends a guy down to check (boat/walk there). Oh hey he did. Hey historian, write that shit down.
Ten years of figuring out what happened later, 70 ad, he writes it down.

The Annals are also missing a volume (29ad-35ad), from being burned in a fire later on by Nero, so who fucking knows what kind of info was in there.

Also why was Jesus important enough to write about? I mean why on earth would anybody believe a woman who is married saying she had a virgin birth and that her son is the son of god? If anybody in isreal said that today they'd be stoned to death.

>>140404560
>Missing the point that hard

I thought all ancient figures had twenty different thousand page novels written about them? Volumes and volumes, even? Socrates has no primary sources yet he is a central figure in Western philosophy. Why? I thought you needed video footage for proof of your existence? Socrates is probably as or more influential than Jesus.

>>140405851
>Today

Answered your own retarded question

>>140404888
>And billions of people can't all be wrong about the notion of a higher power.

why the fuck not?

>>140406098
Because that insinuates that the planet has been running on nothing but mass hysteria for generation upon generation

>>140405872
I was never talking about its influence or anything you said.

>>140405993
Its called a retoricle question for a reason...

>>140404734
>Be athiest
>Be confederate at same time
>kek

>>140396006
Your logic is retarded.

Who defined Jesus as the son of god? No one except for man.

You're using circular logic.

And by your same logic, Muhammad is the true prophet.

Praise allah or realize how stupid you sound.

>>140406568
Are you trying to spell secular?

>>140406493
Missing your meme flag
>Retoricle

I'm out

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>>140406496
> assuming I'm an atheist means I don't want slaves, whiskey, and freedom for the white man
not all atheist are liberal you know?

>>140406568
Also Mohammed came almost 300 years after Jesus

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>>140391262
lalala i cant hear you

>>140406805
Okay so my phone dropped the ball on that one

>>140392780
>2017
>Falling for this low tier christcuck bait

Not even once. Have a (you)

>>140404217

There's actually a lot of evidence to suggest the contrary; that <<they>> were working against Napoleon, and more actively backing the British. The historical record is at odds with your suggestion that Napoleon was in <<their>> pockets. I paid more attention to the unusual quality of his testimony. While many of us are of course aware that powerful political and military figures come under the influence of bankers, it's possible that in the twilight of his days he chose to think more intently on the meaning of Christ and scripture, and then to speak about what he (at that time) believed to be true.

"The only fly in the ointment was the fact that Napoleon grew more and more egotistical until he finally had the temerity to denounce them (the Rothschilds) publicly."

"The Bankers then decided to USE Napoleon as the Instrument of their will. They organized the Napoleonic Wars to topple several more of the Crowned Heads of Europe."

"The secret strategy used to defeat Napoleon, and force his abdication, has been accepted as essential for all revolutionary efforts since that date. It is very simple. The leaders of the revolutionary movement arrange to place their agents secretly in key positions in the departments of supply, communication, transport and intelligence, of the armed forces they plan to overthrow. By sabotaging supplies, intercepting orders, issuing contradictory messages, tying up or misrouting transports, and by counter intelligence work, revolutionary leaders have discovered they can create utter chaos in the most efficient military organization on land, at sea, or in the air."

The Downfall of Napoleon - Chapter 4
http://www.lovethetruth.com/books/pawns/04.htm

>>140402015
Source on the original? Were it not for the obvious religious symbolism I would find it sexually stimulating.

>There are 66 newfags on /pol/ right now.
I guess religious bait threads do serve a purpose.

>>140407546
65. I just want a source on one of those images.

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>>140407546
>grrrrr i hate it when people discuss things that aren't relevant to my interests
>i wish i could just ignore these threads but i'm forced to post here against my will

>>140407546
Same number of books as the bible

>>140407993
>22 posts by this ID
Loser or mental illness? Who knows.

>>140409322
And 2 of you acting like a cuck.

>>140409605
And ill admit to not having a life. Generally I dont have the confidence to have one. So tell us again how you're somehow superior to us?

>>140409322
Loser. I wasn't discussing things, I was just dumping Christian art.

Sure........

The all knowing and all powerful creator chose ignorant and illiterate peasants in the asshole of the world to spread the news.

>>140395455
Dude, "is defined" means he is said to be something by SOMEONE. In this particular case himself. And nobody has to take his word for it.

>>140391262
Atheist=Satanist

You can't argue with the sons of Cain.

>>140391262
Obvious trolling.

>>140392780
This is called an aristhotelic syllogism, and its phallacy was proved by greek philosophers:
1) Socrates is a man
2)Socrates is a liar
3) every man is a liar
That's not logic, you idiot

>>140413073
Its not like we agreed with him. Chill.

>>140411940
The bible pulls all of its main characters from the asshole of the world

>>140413216
Thankfully no one did. OP is obviously trolling, but christians using logic against reason always triggers me kek

>>140391262
You are looking in the wrong place for debates. 4chan is a very diverse place. All ages, many trolls, many weirdos and so on. Indeed your message is of great value and shall be rewarded as such but do not think you will convert anyone here. Simple discussions about Jesua Christ are welcomed all the time, after all, /pol/ is a Christian page, no matter what.

The best way to engage in a dialogue with an atheist is by meeting one and talking to him face to face. I tell you, it's the best. You will find it weird that atheist know the Biblical verses more than you :). They try their best to take down Christianity and make gods what they consider to be relevant to them (anime goddesses, ponies, jedis, sun, moon, ancient idols and so on). Talking face to face will give you a good feedback on what you know and what you don't.

Conclusion, /pol/ is not a lost cause but do not hope for many results. Repentance is hard for the unbelievers for the simple fact that they refuse to say "you know, maybe i did something wrong". Keep up the good fight! Preach on! Seek Christ and His knowledge!

>>140413832
I use logic to justify christianity. 7 days = 7billion years. God waits, pops us down = missing link. The flood? Only regional. Virgin birth? Actually happens sometimes. Now the life and times of Jesus I dont know. But "faith".

>>140392780
An invalid argument

>>140415462
>Virgin birth? Actually happens sometimes.
What do they teach you in school?

>>140415629
Look it up. I swear.

>>140415711
I am a medical student. I swear.

>>140391262
What would Jesus's DNA look like? Would it all be Mary or would there be some "Unidentified" other?

Atheists are fucking stupid. If Jesus didn't exist, how did he write the bible? If he didn't exist, how did he raise Lazarus from the dead? And how could he have built that Ark, unless he was God? And what about the commandments? Despite all evidence, people deny his existence. They will be in hell for eternity. Which is a LONG time.

>>140416158
Probably his own DNA. Mary was most likely a host. Who knows?

>>140415815
Nah bro it happened to OPs girlfriend. There's also a "melanin variation", where kids will be born with more melanin in their skin FOR NO REASON

>>140416205
I am making a survey. Please be honest. How old are you?

>>140416536
Germany if funked. I agree.

>>140416558
35, and I am a bishop. So suck it.