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Continuation thread: >>>140370378 We discuss the UK

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Continuation thread: >>>140370378

We discuss the UK decision to ban certain acts in porn, and should porn be banned as a whole.
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How will I be able to pleasure myself by watching a woman get rammed by a stranger now? Oh, no! How will I condition myself into becoming a cuck?
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Porn is degenerate and I'm glad its being banned.
Its a Jewish controlled industry that exploits the male sex drive to turn you into a cuck who jerks off to men fucking women you find pretty.

You cannot be on the right side of the political spectrum and want to be a handcuck. Its not possible. Put a communist flag or Democrat flag on if you want to argue for it, because that's what you are. A disgusting leftist.
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We should kill everyone who watches porn or participates in it.
PURITAN REVOLUTION!
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>>140378819
So we'll be starting with you then?
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>>140378819
Not kill. Educate and restrict access to the substance. I'm not going to kill my countrymen for them having a disgusting habit. Yet.
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>>140378936
No.
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>>140378963
Killing is better option, because the retards won't listen.
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>>140379076
Flawed logic, but I admire your ambition.
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>>140378963
I would advocate the burning alive of porn directors/stars.

Education is all well and good but stupid people cannot be educated unless it's shock tactic. Burning alive should educated the idiots that don't get it.
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>>140379146
>I would advocate the burning alive of porn directors/stars.
Nah, exile. We're not muslims (yet lol) mate, we don't just start getting violent for no reason.
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>>140379221
We should be violent. They are the same as Sodom.
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>>140379133
His logic is sound, a shock and awe technique every now and then to show how the proprietors of porn will not be tolerated. A weekly public burning would send a clear message.

>>140379221
Exile allows them to go elsewhere and gives them the excuse and ability to start a counter movement, you do not want this, you want all threats ended permanently. I understand your objection but allowances have been made many times and it has backfired many times. No more allowances, only fire. Fire to clean the impurities away.
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WHITE SHARIAH NOW!
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>>140379450
>the excuse and ability to start a counter movement
I never said where we exile them too.
I'm sure dropping them in Iraq or the like would solve the problem, and we sell the news story as they were simply "deported"

Gotta be smart lad.
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>>140378819

Not everyone who watches porn is bosnian
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>>140379666
And you should kill yourself, satanist.
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Give this a watch if you still believe that porn doesn't effect your brain in a negative way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhqx7yctQVk&list=LLvzFaNXPJ-TSHEDZbvh4jDw&index=2

This is some fucked up stuff. Think about how much of the world watches porn - easily a majority - and will be fucking their brains up in ways detailed in that video.
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>>140378597
3DPD porn should be illegal

2D is fine
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what's worse lads:

porn or visiting escorts semi regularly
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>>140379950
Fuck off. Both are degenerate. Anime should be banned worldwide.
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>>140379950
There's no difference. Stop fooling yourself.
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>>140378597
>>140378750
>>140378783
>>140378819
>>140378963
>>140379146
>>140379783
Just ran across picrelated
Look at the name
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>>140380031
From a secular standpoint, the latter, as you're actually participating it rather than being a passive LITERAL cuck.
From a religious standpoint, the former, although neither would be recommended.
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I agree with UK porn ban.I just started nofap and i can feel the difference already.
Porn is like drug addiction u try to seek more hardcore shit to get that same feeling what i gave u first.
I stopped there when i started to watch sissyhypnos THANK GOD i stopped there that shit is fucking dangerous and will fuck ur mind.
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>>140380154
One is created by abusing people, the other is just pen an paper.

You can't outlaw drawings, same as erotic novels.

I'm not saying one is less degenerate, but there's no legal base to outlaw the latter.
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>>140380198
>Your kids will see internet porn. Deal with it. A conversation with Peggy (((Orenstien)))
Let's start to "deal with it" goys
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>>140380425
It should be banned anyway. Anything that destroys Christian mind shall be banned and their creators burned alive.
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>>140379007
Yes
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>>140380198
>(((Orenstein)))
OY VEY, DA GOYIM DON'T WANNA SHOW DEY CHILDREN THE PORNOOOO
YOU NEED TO DEAL WIF IT GOY, AY SHALOM
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Bin that dildo!
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>>140380870
You say that, but sex toys are degenerate as fuck and should be binned.
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>>140380647
We're going to fucking deal with it soon
Scalps with the kippahs still attached will be worth double points
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porn good

censorship bad
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>>140378597
Porn exclusivly is a problem.
Porn in addition to sex is literally none of anyone elses business.
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Oh look,

Another thread of pathetic man babies who can't stop watching porn without big daddy government holding their hand.

Master race, indeed.
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>>140381070
>Porn in addition to sex is literally none of anyone elses business.
Yeah because all those sad fucks jerking off watching women get pounded are having tons of sex, right?

People who have a ton of sex don't need porn. You have memories and all sorts of experience to smack it over.
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Porn is one of the mind viruses destroying humanity.

http://www.jewishquarterly.org/issuearchive/articled325.html?articleid=38
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>>140380427
>>140380647
I imagine it's even harder nowadays to evade porn when everyone has a smartphone with internet and some stupid kid brags around in class.

You can be a responsible parent and your kid will eventually be confronted with it, as were you.

What can you do?
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>>140381302
Ban ipods!
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>>140381302

Don't watch it maybe?

I mean seriously, how fucking hard is this?
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>>140381302
Kill the hydra
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>>140381232
>who can't stop watching porn without big daddy government holding their hand.
I don't watch porn, and you shouldn't either. Cuck.
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>>140378783
>Jewish conotrolled

Los Angeles Anon here. It's largely a myth that porn is still controlled by jews. While there are still a few big names, the vast majority of the porn industry out here is run by white dudes and a few hispanics.
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>>140380198
>Orenstein
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>>140381235
Yeah because women are totally up for sex as often as men are.
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Agree with UK - not an outright ban but reduced accessibility.

Personal freedom or not, there are school children becoming normalised to porn. This cannot be good.

Men are abandoning the social contract and failing to improve themselves. We are better than this.

Get it back into the back alley stores and get that public shaming back in place. Those who can justify there need for porn can have their names and reputation attached to it.

The men of the UK need to get back to having standards and respecting women, even if they hate and disrespect themselves. We can lead by example. Teach our boys to get a good woman by working hard, being decent, strong and honest.
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>>140381497

Right.
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>>140381497
Changes nothing.
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>>140381542
>Being this fucking unappealing
Christ sakes lad.
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>>140381666
>666
(((Templarp)))
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Stop looking at porn!
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>>140381741
Being this fucking retarded.
A 10/10 woman with a 10/10 guy is likely to have a lower libido than the guy.
Looks dont fucking change shit about it.
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It's just a vector for China-lite internet controls

Right now you need to go to court to get something ISP blocked for copyright or whatever, they want to make it easier
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>>140381467

Then why do you need the government to stop you from watching it?

It's sad that cuck has literally lost all meaning. Here we have a "man" who is literally not capable of existing without the government holding his hand from cradle to grave, and he's calling someone a cuck.
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>>140381457
It's not just about porn
It's about the (((dominance))) of perversion today
Reminder, you are living in the new (((Weimar Republic)))
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>>140382035
What comes next?
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Autism thread
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>>140382035

God have mercy. How do you survive from day to day being this utterly pathetic.

I don't think you even qualify as human.
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>>140381861

Electronic devil trying to undermine the truth of my posts about the fact Ashkenazi (fake) Jews began and have a disproportionate control over the porn industry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5932LjkMiM
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>>140382249
Post nose
>I don't think you even qualify as human
It's not surprising you think so, as I am a goyim, right?
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porn is bad and you shouldn't do it but don't walk on me
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>>140382490

I used to think it was sad watching you chimps cry about the jews while completely falling into every trap they've ever laid for you.

Now I mostly hope you get what you deserve.
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>>140382838
>calling whites chimps
>loving the jew
Here's a required kys
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>>140378597
Porn is a way to weed out degenerates. If you can't resist it you have to go.
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>>140383182

I seriously doubt you're white.

Probably of germanic descent. Terrible idea letting you people into the country. You're as genetically predisposed to big and broken government as the spics.
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>>140382838
We are dropping the nazi shit
But that's not to say we don't acknowledge that Uncle Adolf was right all along
Traitors get it first
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>>140378597
D-does hentai count? I can't give up on my qt anime girls.
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>>140383444
I seriously doubt you aren't a numale with a bad case of dick breath
Voting hilldog 2020 are you?
Not surprised
Please, kys
or if you must, save the honor
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>>140383751
I'm honestly not sure.
Shits not healthy for you, for sure though. I doubt its destructive as 3D porn.

That said, maybe don't jerk off to it, yeah?
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>>140378597
GCHQ ip detected
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>>140384050

It's sad that every single time you progressive chimps encounter someone who wants less government than you that your instant and only reaction is to call them a democrat.
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>>140383751
Yes and you will be V& kek
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Imagine being treated like a minor forever.
I'd much rather have absolute degeneracy than be treated like a fucking child.
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>>140384549
No I want smaller, more powerful local governments but the same defensive capabilities we presently see, or better. Additionally, more efficient spending practices of the defense budget would be a big plus.

I also want to stamp out the source of degeneracy subverting the minds of the People.

I guess we've both make assumptions about one another... I'd still assume that dick breath of yours.
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so recording yourself banging a whore would be a crime? or just when you show it to someone?

how about cam sex?

would that be a crime then?

there are whores willing to get banged. so you film them when you do it and make some cash on it.

the govn't should make all porn sites use a third party proxy websites requiring all browsers to verify their age with a valid credit card.

that's the only intervention govn't should have.

sure, the types of guys and women involved in the industry are 98% scum idiots.

doesn't mean it should be banned.

although it SHOULD be banned from tv, like kike-hbo.
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Freedom is grotesque to the British mind, because the free Britons birthed America.
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LOOL instead of wasting time on watching porn, just get out of your basement, take a shower and be yourself, you will find a gf and real sex is better than digital vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FATYnQgP4us
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>being THIS MUCH of a proletariat good goy

>Master Worthwill told me not to look at women sirrah, and so that is what I shall refrain from doing!
>I am certain he shall surely be doing likewise! Incidentally I cannot wait to pay my taxes!
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>>140385904
>Freedom to have Jews make you handcucks

F R E E D O M
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>>140386558
>being treated like a fucking child
Most porn isn't even commercial. It's amateur. And most 4chan porn isn't even western. It's 2D superiority.
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>>140387057
>Cutting off a bit of your dick because Jews told you too
>Jerking off like a cuck to porn because Jews say its okay

Cuck.
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>>140387057
There is western porn, like rule 34 of Gravity Falls, Transformers, etc.
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>>140379950
>used to consume depraved normalfag porn
>grew jaded after watching the thousandth big dumb dick with tattoo sleeves withdraw from a gaping asshole and boringly spurt over some yawning slag's gums
>switched to 2D doujins, static images and interactive shit
>there's structured scenarios, characters, relationships and stimulating interactions beyond ceaseless fuck displays punctuated by tedious money shot
>started blowing satisfactory loads without hours of edging or instant self-loathing and reduced fapping sessions down to an occasional indulgence
>previous fetishes eventually became overwritten by risky bareback sex with a cute girl that I'm in a relationship with

There's just something innately soulless about Heebie Kikeberger's 3DPD Productions that eats away at everything that's subtly erotic and makes me want to avoid exposure to paycheck pornstars with dead trout eyes forever.
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>>140383751
It's the vape form of porn. People are gonna say it's just as bad, but it's not.
Also society will hate you. and you look like a beta fag.

Still, i prefer 2d to 3d. 3D is pure cuckshit.
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>>140387158
Whatever little guy. You just keep having your government treat you like a little boy and stuff, and keep calling other people names when you don't get your way.

It's alright.
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>>140388154
2D porn is bad too, you are just delusional weebs.
If you think that https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3757920, for example, is good, feel free to gas yourself.
>mwf no Nazi Kubo
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>>140378597
who gives a fuck? if people want to access porn then they'll use a vpn
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In my opinion, car crash compilations are better than porn.
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>>140388630
>Whatever
Yeah, I'd back down as well after getting btfo. Lol.
Ta ta.
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>>140388862
>driving behind a truck carrying bricks
>ever
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>>140388765
Pfffft. Lightweight.
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3565047
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>>140382035
>based nazis
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>>140389345
Schadenfreude.
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>>140385482

>i want a smaller government
>but it has to be big enough to ban porn
>it has to be efficient though

Fucking useful idiots.

I don't know what's worse; the complete stupidity or the utter lack of self-awareness.
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I do not support any state interference to ban porn

If you want to reduce the influence of porn in society, start your anti-porn campaign, a "no-porn movement", organize public pledges etc.

Disclaimer: I do not browse porn AT ALL. Only 2d porn occasionally, which is not real porn in the end.
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People who watch porn on a regular basis and complain that it should be banned are the most retarded cucks ever
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>>140389863
This is literally how communism started.
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>>140389951
>I do not browse porn AT ALL. Only 2d porn occasionally, which is not real porn in the end.
So, if I watch furry porn, which si not real, then it's no real porn...
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>>140389464

remove censor pls
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>>140385482
one day you're going to have to confront that cognitive dissonance you have about wanting a small government whilst also a homogenous society that is strictly unified and void of degeneracy and morally ambiguous acts/beliefs
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>>140388765
I'd take discriminating tastes with a broad spectrum of variety that spans from cute coquettish blueballing to decadent guro scat faggotry over "Tyrone and Chad fuck skinny white dad-haters XVIIXII" any day of the week, anon.
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>>140389863
Know that I know what I stated is an unlikely ideal
"I want to have my cake and eat it too"
It's likely in the scenario I proposed that the smaller local govs would be more easily subverted and used as a dividing force within the country. Which is why nationalism or racial hegemony would also be necessary to stand united against foreign subversion, as a uniting force to rally behind

And I never said ban porn, again with assumptions
I want to ban jewish influence, zog
I understand the fine line between gov and freedom. We need both and the latter is necessary for the best possible former

Get off your high horse and go back to plebbit you lolbertarian
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>>140389464
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>>140391288
Agreed
It's idealism vs realism
I am being an idealist but I realize this wouldn't work realistically.
See >>140391915
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>>140391915
>I understand the fine line between gov and freedom.
If you asking for censorship you don't, /nupol/.
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Let's be honest, as with every thread it's 90% fuck Jews. Even if they said to never watch it and that it rotted your mind, you guys would be telling people to start paid subscriptions for porn
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>>140392186
Putting it simply, I think the founding father's were right in attempting to keep federal governance small and giving states the power, but all thats gone to hell and gov at all levels has gotten out of line
I am against banning porn but want it's place in society diminished
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>>140392689
Essentially what I argue is that society needs to shun it and find it's conservative roots
Government needs to stay the fuck out of it like most other things
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>>140372452
>now i realize that people are like animals that SHOULDNT be able to do whatever they want.
LMAO, you're retarded, OP. Unless, of course, you're a sarcastic troll. In that case the following doesn't apply to you.

You're not Libertarian.

The point of moral virtue is that it makes you superior to low, impulsive, sinful people. It's kind of natural hierarchy. You CAN'T make everyone virtuous, and even if you somehow do it (which is not possible in this universe), you will lose the hierarchical advantage over the sinners.

If you're just addicted to porn and you want the government to STOP you from that addiction, it only emphasizes your inferiority and impotence. It's YOU who's the weak one here. The inability to achieve virtue on your own makes you a weak, fragile man.

Yes, people are like animals, and people ARE prone to impulsive, stupid decisions. They make de bad investments all the time (and in a sense, their everyday decisions can be regarded as investments too, they just invest their own time). I don't see much difference between this and how people lose money on some stupid pump&dump crypto shitcoin. The libertarian way is to either let people be who they are or increase their investing competence. As soon as you give up the libertarian way and pass this privilege to the government, you stop being one.

And you're not one.
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>>140391915

>I understand the fine line between gov and freedom.

You clearly do not.

Don't feel bad, you're in good company.
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>>140378963
>Educate and restrict access to the substance
Of course you Britcucks believe in restricting male sexuality instead of addressing the real issue at hand (why British women are garbage and why marriage and even dating is such a shitty deal).
>For them having a disgusting habit. Yet.
You cannot kill people for watching porn as it is their body not yours which is being affected.

If people wanna jack off to porn then why should we restrict them? also are we going to restrict women's forms of porn as well (their dildos, books and sex toys)?

If not you are just a gynocerntric hypocrite.
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>>140378597
all porn but lesbian porn should be banned desu senpai
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>>140391915
*racial homogeny
>>140393933
I used to be like you before I grew up and realized governance in some form is necessary
I wish people were capable of self governance, but that ain't the case
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>>140393725
Well said, except one thing.
Shitcoin has been awesome for those of us who wanna do drugs but don't wanna deal with street riffraff. Bitcoin removes violence from that situation.
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>>140394725

There is a vast gulf between having no government and having a government big enough to ban porn.

You are on the wrong side of the line.
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>>140381588
>there are school children becoming normalised to porn. This cannot be good.
School children ranges from little kids to basically adults (high schoolers which sex drives).
>Men are abandoning the social contract and failing to improve themselves
That is because women abandoned the social contract of marriage when no fault divorce and domestic violence and marital rape laws hit the scene fucking over men and giving women all the power in marriage.
>The men of the UK need to get back to having standards and respecting women
Respecting women is cuckold bullshit and porn increases your standards for women sexually.

You don't need to respect women you need to take control over them and have legal power and authority over them.

You are a bluepill motherfucker.
>Teach our boys to get a good woman by working hard, being decent, strong and honest.
Being a gentleman or being a hard working decent nice guy man is not gonna get you a good woman.

All the women will just fuck the assholes till they wanna settle down and then your bullshit code of ethics demand these dumbfuck men respect these sluts turned into whores.

Fuck respecting women.
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>>140378597
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>>140394957
You missed my other replies.
I don't want to ban porn, I want society to be more adverse to it and other (((subversive))) influence
It has nothing to do with gov
We seem to agree that government needs harsh limits. I bet we agree on more than we realize
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>>140394725
>before I grew up
Bullshit. If you had truly grown up, like you think you you did, you'd have come to the following conclusion:
"Government is bullshit, people are also bullshit, so I'll mind my own business, stay vigilant, and disregard both as much as possible."
>Why?
"Well it's simple logic really. You see, government is an institution of power and control. Psychopaths seek out these positions and take them almost every time. They're cunning enough and motivated enough to do it. They'll cheat to become authorities and once they become authorities they will exploit and abuse anyone they can to get their own jollies off. This is an absolutely unavoidable condition. There's no way to avoid it, so it's best to not even play the game. Government literally gives the worst people in the world the one thing you never want them to have."
>But...
Enjoyâ„¢ Slavery
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>>140395460

I seriously doubt that, comrade.
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>>140378597
porn ban is genius.
males will now seek anything to see that piece of tit or ass.
amount of sexual assaults will rise, but who cares, since the amount of guys going out and try their luck with chicks casually will rise too.

I remember being young, like 12, and watching striptease videos on nokia via WAP connection, imagine that 64x64 screen with like 20 pixels for a boob. Best memory ever. I remember peeking under the shirt of a classmate, and seeing her 15 year old boobs, small and pointy. instant rock hard dick, and I was using porn back then.

16-23 were dark times, since I spent most of my free time watching porn. From gangbangs to bukkake, to some really sick shit like interracial transsexual orgies. At 23 I had my first time, and I couldnt get it up. I struggle with erectile dysfunction to this day, mainly because nothing gets me going.
If the porn sites were banned I would probably go diamond hard at a glimpse of an asscheek.
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>>140391288 checked
it's that i wish Society were to sooner embrace morals than have a dictatorship force them.
Again, I know it's idealistic...
I want 1940 germany minus the dictatorship, I want society to rule with morals but such would require too much homogeny to not be possible unless state imposed.
Alas can't have my cake and eat it too
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>>140378597

Honestly, if you're that mentally weak for porn to affect your life to the point where you feel the only thing that can help you is for it to be legally banned, it's not the porn that's the problem, it's you.
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This is glorious.

Porn is a goddamn abomination, a fucking cancer of the mind and relationships.

Kids see it, and they get hooked on it. It is the most child-predator like drug out there.

This will prevent kids from seeing it when they are young and vulnerable, meaning they will react properly when they reach adulthood.

This is going to be a massive redpill suppository to an entire country of people. The anti-porn movement is about to get stronger by 10x's as much.

And VPN providers are going to see a massive increase in business, too. Which is good.
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>>140396609
To go even further, I honestly dunno why the Jews are allowing this. Porn is their number 1 mind-control/cultural subversion tool. How can they allow this to happen?
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>>140396141
Government is necessary
Maybe not the government we know, but in some form, however smaller and less powerful, is necessary.

I agree it is shit, people are shit, and to stay militant but solipsism is cancerous. We the People shape the future, I'm not going to be on the sideline with my fingers in my ears
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>>140397027
*Viligant not militant
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>>140378597
they jews will never let you ban porn
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>>140378597
They are just following the will of their muslim overlords, next is legal child marriage.
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>>140378597
>mfw the normies still haven't realised if it's on the internet it can't be banned fully.

are you guys that want porn banned and think it's actually going to happen, actually retarded?

I have only ever watched amateur homemade porn, never professionally produced, therefore how am I getting a unrealistic perspective of intercourse between two individuals? which is one of the main arguments of porn being removed from society, If anything I am getting the most realistic perspective possible without being in the room and/or participating, explain to me how watching two individuals participating in a truly natural act is, in itself, detrimental. sure if you sit there and jerk off watching amateur porn all day you may develop issues, it's an issue of personal responsibility, the same can be said for anything else that illicits a pleasure response. alcohol, drugs, food etc. moderation and there will be no issue, the nanny state does not need to intervene with meaningless, easily avoidable, expensive, bans.it needs to intervene with education on not to be a greedy fuck.
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>>140396141
You blame the government for your problems when the government is supposed to be OURS.
Im no bootlicker, but it is truly the sheep to blame. And kikes of course.
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>>140397027
>Government is necessary
See, you're too taken by society to even realize that government is a problem. You are like 99.999999% of the human population. Addicted to the teat of governance despite it being the very thing causing you trouble.

My above post couldn't even register with your brain. That's how addicted you are to authority. You're doomed to slavery to mankind.
Good luck man.
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>>140397661
Of course it will never be 100% gone. That's not the point. It will be near impossible for a determined, knowledgeable porn-seeker to be stopped.

The point is that it will make it harder. People who either don't know how to circumvent the internet or seek shit out (most normies) or people too young to (kids) will see their porn consumption drop drastically.
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>>140378750
>Ban porn
>Hope that it bans cucks, as if cucks don't find a way to get around everything
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>>140397682
>but it is truly the sheep to blame. And kikes of course.
No form of government is needed. It's the oldest meme of humanity. The idea you need an authority.

What you need is to think. Long and hard.
>long
>hard
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>>140397282
http://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/privacy/2017/05/uk-has-now-entered-draconian-era-porn-prohibition
> The Digital Economy Bill was granted Royal Assent on 27 April and has now become law.

?
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>>140398317
Let's archive that
https://archive.is/ZUfqu
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>>140388765
>Western 2D
I'd rather 3DPD
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OP says "certain acts" are banned. Which acts?
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>>140398470
https://cs.sankakucomplex.com/data/e1/cd/e1cd1aaaa71c007ad0585a39f15beaf9.jpg?e=1504711830&m=FWavR_pDQBj-bZRp0LJj3w

*vomits*
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>>140396609

>It is the most child-predator like drug out there.

Tipper. Put down the internet and go help Al collect carbon credits.
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>>140397955
Dude you're slow and a child
Let's perform a thought experiment
Say gov were abolished tomorrow in good ole us of a.
It would devolve into anarchy. Do you suppose at some point, without organization, it would just level out? Not without most of the population dying to the point interaction amongst families/groups is rare. How do you suppose power dynamics will work out, how will people reach consensus on decisions? Also, how would a country without governance protect itself from countries with government, which are united and therefore are efficient producers of weapons and armies?
Do you live in fantasy land?
With any large enough group of people, you need some form of government
I'm not saying it shouldn't be limited, but it is necessary for efficient functioning.
How can you libertarians be so short sighted? It's a joke. I'll take our zog government any day over the anarchy your suppositions would lead to
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>>140397682

Pro-tip: You are the sheep.
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>>140398884
>Look up 2B on Exhentai
>Barely any results
Why?
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>>140399072

>I'll take our zog government any day

We know.

It's why you're part of the problem.
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>>140378597
UK goverments decision to ban some things but not others in porn is even more idiotic than banning all porn

For one its unenforceable. Second what they will ban women wearing school uniforms while the most degenerate jewish shit is 100% legal
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>>140398276
Ok suppose every country in the world stops with governments. Only then might it be ok to not have any. Otherwise you open yourself up to becoming prey of a country with a government... the only way to stop from getting conquering and enslaved by their government is to create one of your own, better, with a society to back it up
You obviously haven't considered this, your disdain for the government 8s clouding your thought
I too don't like our government very much but I don't propose doing away with it wholly either
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>>140398163

when I was 13 I was running game servers, web servers, was using usenet / torrents / bearshare / limewire and everything inbetween. im 24 now, if you think kids growing up in today's age cannot find what they are looking for easily, then I don't think you are giving them enough credit, i knew a time when I didn't own or know how to use a computer, how many kids today can you ask that will give you the same response.

the point being, banning everything isn't the answer, at some point you have to realise that you're going to have to do more, which requires actual effort. you're going to have to teach your entitled citizens that they cannot eat as much as they want, they cannot drink as much as they want, they cannot watch as much porn as they want, without suffering respective repercussions for their actions, a ban is just a cold, easy. effortless, lazy, approach. yet the government still wonders why it gets nowhere in meaningfully permanently altering the behaviour of it's citizens .
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>>140399265
Back it up faggot
It had been you earlier siding with the kikes
>I used to think it was sad watching you chimps cry about the jews while completely falling into every trap they've ever laid for you. Now I mostly hope you get what you deserve

Again, I used to be a lolbertarian like you then I grew up. It makes no sense in the macro view
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>>140399072
>>140399484
I didn't recommend getting rid of government.
I merely stated that government is a bad thing. That doesn't mean you and your friends are going going to finally get your shit together and realize what fools you've been. Oh no.

Basically, government is there. Smart abandon it and those supporting it. We do business with you but otherwise, we don't need you. We adapt, we survive, we stay vigilant.
All I'm doing is telling you why your life sucks. You refuse to give up the drug, and you pay for it. You wanna improve? Try being an outlaw. Until then you are the bane of your own existence like any other addict.
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>>140398789
>Sister Act 3
>King Lear, Acts III and IV
>Golden Axe
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>>140399265
>>140399079
Do you have anything to contribute to the debate or just some more ad hominems?
Tell me why a libertarian society would work please
Explain it to my small brain since you have it figured out
Why are governments in all sizes and forms unnecessary no matter what?
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>>140399897
>>140400446

What debate?

You chimps get the government you deserve.

It's a shame the rest of us have to suffer because of your retardation, but no one ever said life was always fair.
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>>140400182
Government is not !!!inherently!!! bad.
And you've made no argument.
A bunch of outlaws would live in a adhere to a form of government in itself, unless everybody lived entirely in tiny family groups. Even then, your group may face threats from others "outside the government" because morals and virtues aren't inherent in human beings and lack of a government won't change that.

I used to be in an 1%er outlaw motorcycle gang. I mean it. Aside from it being pathetic and immature, it was also hypocritical. The gang has a government of it's own, from distribution to punishment.
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>>140400880
That's what I thought, nothing of substance it contribution.
We don't want you in our government or country, feel free to flee for the woods somewhere boy, after you finish your government education.
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You guys aren't looking at the big picture. 4chan is essentially a porn site since porn can be accessed. This will eventually be applied to us resulting in either needing accounts to post/view the website, thus killing online anonimity, or by 4chan being blocked entirely in the UK.
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>>140400880
>have to suffer
Dude I will pay for your visa or to renounce your citizenship
Leave here and find some woods somewhere
We don't want you to suffer any longer
Kek this is how I know you're a kid and a numale
>in the top 1% of the world
>he's suffering
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>>140400880
If there was no government nor laws
I would gut you and you wouldn't have anything to stop it
Your little arms aren't going to put up a fight, nor will anyone else because that's just the way things are in outlaw country
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>>140378597
Good riddance, fuck porn. Ban all fucking porn production from the internet, the world would be a much better place for it. If I could get all the time back that I've wasted watching porn... I'd shitpost various leftist websites so much that they'd have to get rid of their comment sections, and then less people would go to those shitty sites. But seriously, imagine for a moment what could be accomplished if everyone diverted their porn-watching time towards more productive activities.
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>>140378597
>why do SJW's feel the need to stick there nose in everyones stuff and make it fit there agenda.
>ban all non white and degenerate activites i dont agree with reeeeeeeee!!!

You guys are the most hypocritical idiots ever.
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>>140398789
White skin
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>>140400182
>We do business with you but otherwise, we don't need you. We adapt, we survive, we stay vigilant.
>we
Implies a group acting in its own best group interest. What makes you think your group will get anywhere without leadership, chain of command, hierarchy, consensus? Aka GOVERNMENT
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>>140381666
of course! never thought of hugh heffner as a jew.
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Ban porn. Then punish anyone who partipates after it is banned. Porn is everywhere nowadays and where it's not there is sexual suggestion. Also punish people who make porn because without them people wouldn't have had porn in the first place they are the main reason we have this problem.
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>>140378597
I believe that porn is damaging but I don't want 4chan to be banned as well considering how porn is hosted on this site.
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>>140400182
Btw
Nice pirate flag
Bet you weren't aware of how many pirates practiced homosexuality
But keep flying the flag, it suits you
Pirates got squashed by gov
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>>140378597
Porn is for degenerates.
There is no good argument for it other than saying people should be allowed to be degenerates.
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>>140402897

People should be allowed to do whatever they want to do to themselves.
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>>140381666
Never thought High Hefner was that bad :(
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>>140378597
stop watching pron
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Pro tip: porn is one of the contributory factors to white girls being ficki fickid and raped by nigs and muslims.

They too consume porn, with majority of it being white women getting fucked in videos. That burns into their mind that white women are sluts and free game to rape. Combine that with Islamic ideology and you get shit like Cologne and Rotherham or the countless nigger rapes in USA
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>>140402897
>>140403156
This was the same argument made back in the 80s for homosexual "lifestyle" acceptance; now the shit is being shoved daily down our throats. So, no.
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>>140403788
1488
CHECK'EM
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>>140378597
Did they ban interracial porn?
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>>140402147

Or maybe I'd gun you down when you tried it.

What is it with progressives and thinking they'd come up on top in anarchy? You people literally are begging the government to ban porn to protect you.

I kind of like my odds.
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>>140401272
>Government is not !!!inherently!!! bad.
Yes it is. What part of psychopathy do you not understand, son?

>>140402612
Because... We're not really a group. We get together at times to trade notes, but otherwise...
And when we get together, the concept of government and authority never even meet the table. We don't need it. Why would we? We don't have psychopaths in out midst because of two reasons. One, there's no value in it, and two, we kill them.
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>>140404164
Did you miss the reply where I said i used to be 1%er?
You would piss yourself if i even spoke to you in public you little keyboard commando.

If all laws were abolished, like you would have it lolbert, I would murder you. Thank goodness for government you ungrateful pansy

Also, I never said ban porn. I think there are other ways of lessening its hold on society.
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>>140404384
No it's not government that's inherently 'bad', but human nature.
You seem to think everybody would get along, and they might so long as it is in each person's best interest. The moment that changes... You seem to be detached from how strife and survival affects group dynamics. You can be sure all the psychopaths who flock to your 'outlaw zone' but you can't be as sure you would survive them.
Gov and hierarchy are pretty much one in the same, and you cannot escape such as it is a necessary organizational tool between groups of people
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>>140405374
*psychopaths would flock
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>>140378783

being this retarded.
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>>140404384
What you propose sounds tribal and you don't seem to concede that tribes have small forms of government.
Maybe your definition of government is much more rigid
Let me state I understand your lust for a smaller more tribal society and a limited government like which you'd find in a tribe
I too don't like the way which government micromanages all aspect of life and the multitude of petty laws and serious punishment which accompany them...
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>>140405374
>You seem to think everybody would get along
No, I don't.
Reread, carefully, what I posted.
I know it's easy to go to tropes. But please, READ and THINK.
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>>140405927
He's right
Although I would rather see society shun it than government ban it
Porn is the definition of degenerate
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>>140406037
I agree to disagree
Imo a outlaw zone would be less preferred to the government zone for the majority of the people but if that's what you want then I don't see the problem in zoning one. Better yet, you should just find a third world shithole lacking government. It would be no different than what an 'outlaw zone' would have to offer
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PORN is the onl sexual liberation for many . why ban it wtf ?
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>>140404598

Oh lord, he's taking the larping to a new level.
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>>140407961
Yeah dude im not playing with you
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>>140407693
I don't have to find an outlaw zone. I can manage just fine in your corrupt field. That's the thing. Your shit, all this authoritarian bullshit, means nothing to us. We live far above and beyond it. We're masters at adapting and planning. You don't pose a threat to us, and we don't pose a threat to you.

I tell you these things to try and get you to mature. To go beyond the need of parental guidance and guide yourself. When you can guide yourself, your SELF becomes a valuable member to our little cabal. We work in a harmony, if you will. Not at all a utopia, just a place where things are calm and all of us can adapt and form to what comes our way. We do this because each of us manages our own space, and this comes together like a molecule. There's not governing atom, each atom has its own thing to bring to the table as an individual element.

Government will always be a harm because a concentrated body of power will always attract those who seek to exploit and enslave. There's no way around this.
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>>140378597
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>>140378597
Today I just had an epiphany. I was looking for porn, my go tos are futa sfm, pmv, lesbian and glamour straight. Sometimes dipping into some tasty ffm. Now I just found myself looking it all as trash.

Once I said that it was trash I considered going harder but then my dick just wasn't having it. Sometimes its really smart.

Not sure if I am going nofap but noporn is definitely right for me.
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>>140408594
I agree that the government is a malformed extension of the patriarchy. That the masses need a daddy government to protect them and tell them what to do and that they will be ok. I don't agree with this contortion of government. The patriarchy should being and end in the family unit and government should be a tool for betterment and only that, not a babysitter.

If what you posted is possible, if be all for it. Sounds similiar in concept to Galt's Gultch. However, I just don't see long term feasibility and that's where I think the idea falls short. But by any means, I would be interested if proved wrong
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>>140408594
>Government will always be a harm because a concentrated body of power will always attract those who seek to exploit and enslave. There's no way around this.
Agreed it is an attractive position for those seeking power to exploit.
But the opposite can be true too. Government can provide benefits, such as to the other poster that i wont murder because it's illegal. And good people can be attracted to government for good reasons, they just don't get as far because the immoral always seemingly go farther because they don't have morals stopping them. The government is our responsibility, or at least it was supposed to be. It went off the rails when the braindead masses decided to forgo this responsiblity and instead tune into American Idol every night and couldn't even tell you the branches of government and what they do.
The government hasn't failed us, we failed the government.
The kikery didn't help either.
We are now subjects of a Zionist organized government and no longer retain power over it. I can totally understand your dismay but government, the tool, isn't at fault.
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>>140379609
Sudan, they'll put them in camps
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>>140409601
It is possible, but only on a case by case basis. Individually.
You'll never get any modern society to understand this shit. They're addicts. That's what you're missing. I'm not saying humanity should adopt my ideals. I don't at all expect such a thing to be even remotely possible. But you know what IS possible? You. Understanding what is really going down, and casting aside your chains. It's hard, it's rough, and it's risky. But the reward is, well, fucking goddamn glorious. You gain appreciation for the world, for what nature has constructed. You see the ins and outs, and understand how to navigate this insanity.

People here, particularly nazis, like to shit on individualism, failing to understand that, as individuals, they can control and adapt themselves, and find others who can do the same, and live peacefully and as men, without the need to struggle against the enslaved idiots in vane.
An individual can guard himself, guide himself, and put himself in a place to adapt and grow beyond petty interests. The individual is the only successful authority. All others fail in the end. But it takes willpower. You have to be ready to get into the shit.
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>>140411843

You talk too much
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>>140411843
>>140411843
Ok this
>It is possible, but only on a case by case basis
I agree with
Just like the concept of Galt's Gultch, a utopia created by the sum of it's individual and highly valued parts.

I'll also agree that TRUE individualism is something of highest merit. What you suppose is something akin to Stoicism.
And it's leading proponent, Marcus Aurelius, was a true individual and one of the greatest of men. He did not have a equal. He was an emperor, and had everything at his disposal, however never strayed from virtue and abstained from vice. A 'tribe' of similar men could possibly accomplish what you propose, but like you said, the masses wouldn't be worthy.

>The individual is the only successful authority
There is some wisdom here and I agree. I don't know if I would say 'only', but maybe instead true-ist/most proper authority but I'm being pedantic. This sounds like something Marcus Aurelius would say

Thanks for a proper conversation anon. I respect your views and beliefs.
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>>140411843
Just a musing
Is the true individual as powerful as a collective?
Well, no, no matter how powerful the individual.
But, a collective of true individuals?
They would likely be much more powerful than a collective of collectivists.
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>>140378597
Porn encourages CP and human trafficking. It needs to go.
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>this whole thread
wow I never knew brits were *this* retarded.
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>>140414639
>Is the true individual as powerful as a collective?
Yes. Because an individual with a true understanding of his place, realizes his own weaknesses and mortality and can cover for them as well as nature allows.
The group, when propping up a lord, can lose a column or two and get completely wrecked.

It's not this stupid meme that collectivists here would have you believe, the so-called "i got mine fuck erryone else".
It's "i got mine, now lets see who we can work with". Fucking everyone else is a limitation. Mastering yourself is a strength that you can use as a brand to make yourself strong in a group of others who see things the same way.
You become a collective of like thinkers naturally, rather than forced at the barrel of a gun. This organic nature makes the whole thing more adaptive and stable.

>>140412415
Anything worth saying takes many words(or guns/explosives) to say.

>>140413931
You're beginning to understand. Don't stop. Go for it. If hell presents itself, go there. Explore darkness and strife, and learn the value of peace and beauty.
It can be frightening as all hell, but it will harden you and thus society in general when you do it.
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