should I vote to let the queers marry? how has it turned out

I'm voting no sick of such a small minority whinging and sick of their degenerate bull crap.

>>140332992
yes
>>140332993
kys you sad cunt

>>140332993
>degenerate bull crap.
Its honestly one of the more compelling arguments FOR gay marriage actually. Literally the opposite of degenerate behaviour and you want to stop it?

>>140332994
>>140332995
Gas yourselves

I don't care if people are gay I just wish it was thought of more as a disorder or problem.

I will be voting yes.

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>>140332997
They just like a bit of cheeky cock mate.

Chicks seem pretty into it so what's the problem if some fella feels like a go?

>>140332992
the fuck is even the point, pollies will make their own decision regardless

>>140332992
The survey is being challenged in the High Court, there's still a chance that the High Court will strike it down on the grounds that the Government doesn't have the power for this.

>>140332998
True.

>>140332992
hell no

>>140332998
>>140333001
and that, boys and girls, is how the gay marriage debate in Australia ended

>>140332992
It doesn't affect anything because people can still do whatever they want to, but it might be useful to let the fag brigades know they are not getting any free political power

>>140332992
I'm voting no. I don't particularly like gays but they've got SSM virtually everywhere else now and if it ends up being yes I wont be too peeved. Despite having legitimate reasons to vote "no" I mostly just want to see a political upset and have a laugh at how upset everyone else gets.

>>140333005
>Despite having legitimate reasons to vote "no"
Care to explain that to me please? Interested in what the arguments are

>>140333006
No him but I want not having gay couples in your country to be a human right

>>140333007
kek on what fucking basis?

How does it affect you at all?

It changed absolutely nothing. Gays will still protest over something no matter how miniscule.

No, you should look out for the well being of gays that are being nagged into marriage. They don't even know how good they have it.

>>140333006
Gays ultimately are a genetic dead end, they don't actually benefit the community they're a part of because they can't reproduce. I'm willing to tolerate them but in no way do I want to incentivise or promote their behaviour.

>>140333008
How does causal racism and sexism effect anyone? Still minorities and women complain about it and try to push censorship laws to stamp it out.
Homosexual couples make me physically ill. Their existence compromises my quality of life.

>>140333011
>incentivise gays
>less dudes fucking your womens
they are fucking based

>>140333011
Well they can raise kids actually. Look at Penny Wong's family

>>140333012
Why do you think about it at all?

Changed nothing. It's not that gays stop existing if you don't have gay marriage, and suddenly all men turn gay as soon as it's legal. Thank god the gay people I've known here aren't full blown faggots organizing huge parades around their faggotry.
The church still opposed it, the people that opposed it before it was legal oppose it now, etc. etc.
if you're a non degenerate country, this law changes nothing

>>140333012
Back to /pol/ you fucking retard.

>>140333014
Hmm because when I turn on the television this propaganda is spewed.
When I leave the house to go to uni and work I see posters promoting gay marriage.
I am constantly reminded that my opinion on gay couples could get me beaten to death in some places.

Gays are good.

= less people breeding
=more children adopted

>>140333016
Back to Twitter you liberal turd

>>140333017
>my opinion on gay couples could get me beaten to death in some places.
>opinion getting you beaten to death


I guess you now know how gays used to feel.

>>140333011
>Have no kids
>Get no benefits for kids
>Still pay taxes
>That go to benefit straight couples with kids

>>140333020
How does that help anything man. I asked him what his opinion was in good faith. He might be playing a bit loose with a bit of it but it doesn't really help to shout him down.

>>140333021
Gay couples can adopt already. Its actually a little fuzzy for me about what marriage would actually mean really

Vote yes and quit being a faggot. It has no impact on your life. This wouldn't be a problem if autistic judges recognized pension and heritage rights to gays instead of making a huge deal about muh marriage. I hope they also approve of adoption rights.

>>140333020
Gave me a chuckle haha
Giving a tiny group (homosexuals) right to express themselves without fear of repercussion by enforcing repercussions on a significantly larger group (those against gay marriage) ?
That's just a net loss + propagation of sexually transmitted disease.

>>140333016
Just no argument

>>140333014
I don't think things should be done just because they can. Same sex couples raising children is not the same as a mother and father and certainly isn't ideal. I'd say that a single mother is better for a child than two gay parents.

>>140333025
>I'd say that a single mother is better for a child than two gay parents.
Based on what? Why would having one mum be better than having 2 mums?

Looking back on it I'd say that its very intense only having 2 people in a family unit. Might have helped out a lot if there were more people

t. only child of a single mother

>>140333026
It's less socially isolating than having two gay parents for the kid. If you're the kid with two dads you're going to have a rough time growing up. You're much less likely to be harassed for having a single mother. Not just that but if you're a single parent the choice to remarry is there, it's a situation that's more easily fixed and is a much more natural environment for a child.

>>140333027
False equivalency straight off the bat. You used two dads to be evocative even though I mentioned single mums.
But if you say two mum's rather than one mum?
Two dad's rather than one dad?

How is it socially isolating in a community that is actually accepting? What you're saying is that the intolerance will make it hard so lets be intolerant.

Who knows man.

>2017
>his country still doesn't let homos get married

>>140333022
Still, they don't increase the amount of child benefits being paid because they don't create new kids.

>>140333024
What reprucussions?

>>140333004
Mmm. The sexuality and affairs of individuals' is different to the culture and political influence of groups that have a association or basis in sexuality.

>>140333003
Reddit

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Voting no. I'm not even religious, but gays just make me sick for some reason. Also, voting yes to shut them up isn't going to work, they'll come back with more demands. I guarantee it.

>>140333028
The point still stands. Regardless of whether it's two dads or two mums, that child will be isolated. A single parent is better for the child rather than two gay ones. If you're up for adoption in the first place it's because you're in a situation worse than a child of a single parent, because you've got none. Adopted children, even with an adoptive mother and father, face difficulties in not actually knowing who they are or where they're from, why would you worsen that by allowing a same sex couple to adopt them?

>How is it socially isolating in a community that is actually accepting?
It's not, in a community that is accepting. How you'll create a community that is entirely accepting I'd like to hear.

>What you're saying is that the intolerance will make it hard so lets be intolerant
It's not because it's hard to implement it's because I see it as immoral and unnatural.

>>140333024
You're allowed to express hatred for gays and we are allowed to express hatred for people who hate gays.

Gay migrant who can't vote here. Not sure what the civil partnership laws are like here but if it's equal rights like my old cunt then this vote doesn't really matter.

>>140333025
You don't know my mother obviously.

>>140333034
cute trap

>>140333027
Gay people usually don't live around bogans.

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>>140333038
Not really a fan of mine either mate, I don't envy adopted kids with gay parents though.
>>140333040
Must be in the water then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecr27Q_L9l8

>>140332992
It went shit here. Gays run everything now and get access to easy mode difficulty if they survive early years bullying. Vote no op, save yourself.

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>>140333043

How exactly is gay marriage any different from a civil partnership? It's not recognised by the Church so in essence it's not really a marriage

>>140333045
it literally isn't, the entire debate is just a way for both sides to be retarded at once

people in favour of it get to make a big deal out of how much we need to bring in this thing we've had for years, and people against it get to make a big deal out of how this thing we've had for years is going to lead to the end of the world

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>>140333046
Why are functional members of the community marginalised though? There are a couple of gay couples in my extended family and they're super functional members of society with jobs and whatnot.

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>>140332992
Don't be a cunt and do it. What have you got to loose?

>>140333047
I'm in favour, but only because it changes literally nothing

>>140332992
No it's a slippery slope to dog fucking

t. had to fuck a dog to get my driver's license

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>>140332992
Voting no, fuck the left

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>>140333051
Coherently explain to me what the left and the right in Australian politics means at the moments and point out 5 main policy differences please

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>>140333052
>Coherently explain to me what the left and the right in Australian politics means at the moments and point out 5 main policy differences please

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>>140333052
Hey man, can you like not be a retard and listen to your very smart countryman? Thanks.

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>>140333053
Interesting answer and all but I'd be surprised if you could actually answer the question.

Unfreezing the medicare rebate is the only thing I can think of that's a real issue with different policy being put forwards

>>140333052
Apart from blithely picking up political memes from the yanks without any attempt at relating it to the actual realities of our own society, Australian politics is more explicitly set up around the divide between organised labour and those political forces that would frustrate the power of organised labour. Our Labor Party is still based around the unions and the internal conversation in the union movement about issues is still the main determinant of Labor policy. So if I were to point out 5 main policy differences between the Government and the Opposition they would all be over industrial relations, e.g. penalties for black bans, right to site access for union representatives, the Building & Construction Commission, fairness tests for awards, minimum wage levels.

>>140333056
Good answer.

Now why do people like this>>140333051 who are putting forwards the image of the working class say """fuck the left""" like its America?

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>>140333052
No but I'll tell you something actually relevant to my statement. The reason I'm voting no besides it being a literal meme issue is because it will clearly show the nations stance on politically correct rubbish like this and convey that we, the majority of the citizens are sick and tired of being persecuted for not being overly PC. People who are against gay marriage for example are marginalised and demonised for expressing a conservative opinion and it was the same if you are a Trump or One Nation supporter. Gay marriage is not the equivalent of racial segregation or persecution, gay people will get along all the same in life with or without it and frankly if it's that big of issue then leave. If gay marriage succeeds it will only be another politically correct meme issue next. Just fucking stop.

>>140333057
See first sentence. The reason why we're having a fucking survey is because a significant number of the Libs and Nats are pro poofter marriage, because there's nothing particularly left wing about it, but they're frightened enough of the social conservatives that they'll let them play silly buggers delaying tactics with the process before they actually vote with Labor to put it into law.

>>140333058
Yeah I actually agree with that one a certain level. But I think perhaps on issues of civil rights it comes back to an actual issue.

But yeah I mean if you look at something like the American election where the media is very much selling a viewpoint and then when it comes to the vote and its shown that actually the majority of citizens hold a different view there's months of show's that are basically "Let me tell you why you're wrong"

It IS very annoying actually.

>>140333059
God Australian politics is a shitshow. Isn't John Howard still the last Aussie PM to serve a full term in office?

>>140333060
Yeah, went from longest serving PM to over decade of backstabbing

>>140332992
Melbourne uni lecturer made petition to get the chinese doctor in the ad de-regestered.
Thankfully we're not America-tier yet and the petition got deleted.
I heard it on the news on Triple Gay though so I assume they were trying to get people outraged that the petition got deleted or something
http://archive.is/T1rjk

>>140333061
To be fair that's not unprecedented. That's effectively what happened after Menzies too

if I vote yes will I never have to hear about this shit again?

>>140333064
Maybe?

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>>140333061
Its very disenfranchising I feel.

idk I just vote Wilke actually. Seems like a nice fella.

>>140333062
Which ad? But that's exactly the sort of thing that will really turn out badly.

Who's going to win? is it going to be a close vote?

>>140333066
Ad in OP
what will turn out badly?

>>140333064
You'll have some referendum on Transgender pronouns in a decade

>>140332992
vote no for the banter

>>140333067
Depends man. Could well be a silent majority situation.

Honestly? I'll vote yes but I'm still annoyed that I have to vote. What do we have a parliment for if when its something like this >>140333059 so an internal party power struggle means that we as a nation spends over 100 million for a plebisite?

>>140333068
That sort of SJW bullying and intimidation.

>>140333067
Could end up like Trump or Brexit and be surprise no vote majority

>>140333071
>That sort of SJW bullying and intimidation.
Seems to work in the US we just haven't reached the point quite yet

>>140333072
It's very possiible. Pro sodomy talking heads are certainly trying to remind people that it's a strong possibility so they're not tempted to abstain.

>>140333073
Doubt we want it here man.

See here >>140333042 being homophobic isn't a sin and shouldn't be. The fucking cheek to turn around to say that she shouldn't be able to be a doctor because she's not in favour of gay marriage? Fuck RIGHT off with that shit.
=

>>140333073
Quite possibly, you'd be forgiven for thinking almost everyone will vote yes but the ironic thing is all those people saying "nah don't do a vote all these people will say disgusting hurtful things about the fags and their feelings will get hurt", but all I've seen is the opposite, and I see it whenever I see a post from a friend on facebook contrary to the yes lobby with them in the comments frothing at the mouth in anger and calling them names.

>>140333076
meant for >>140333072

>>140333067
A lot of people didn't want it to be put to a vote because of the real fear it'll be voted against lmao

>>140333027
Don't tell me you're the sort of person who worries on what other people think about you.

>>140333078
I mean the reality is that its probably an inevitability man

>>140333064
No, there is no end to any of the "progressive" left's issues because they want power not equality.
They move on to extortion, censorship and making any dissenting views a "hate crime".
Same route they have gone with other groups who achieved legal equality decades ago like women and blacks.
"Progressives" are the mirror image type of cancer to the left that politicized Christianity has been to the right.

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>No, there is no end to any of the "progressive" left's issues because they want power not equality.
>They move on to extortion, censorship and making any dissenting views a "hate crime".
>Same route they have gone with other groups who achieved legal equality decades ago like women and blacks.
>"Progressives" are the mirror image type of cancer to the left that politicized Christianity has been to the right.

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>>140333082
Should he be beaten up for taking his pillow?

Should it be illegal for him to take his pillow?

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gay and will be voting no.

I am voting yes simply because this shouldnt be a religious thing.

they act like it isnt, but marriage and religion are intertwined, and i think we need to separate them in order to function without any dissent

>>140333084
kek. Go on then mate tell me a story

>>140333086
Once, there was an ugly barnacle. He was so ugly that everyone died. The end

>>140332999
you guys are so cute with your "ies" at the end of everything eh? :3

>>140333087
I meant "tell me the story of why you are gay but will vote no"

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>>140332992

hell yeah more traps on 4chan

>>140333089
there is no story, i just dont believe in marriage altogether, i dont even like it when straights do it

>>140333091
But surely you see some other gay people would like the option of being able to?

Might be nice to have the option one day yourself hey

>>140333082
The older left wing people weren't like this.

It went alright over here. Nobody seems to really care except for the muslims and bible belt Christians. Even most Christians that I've met are totally okay with it too so it's mostly the muslims, you don't want to be like a muslim by voting no, do you?

lol damn I had no idea so many Australians here were cousinfucking bogans

>>140333060
>majority of citizens
Hillary won the popular vote

>>140333092
i dont see myself doing that ťbh and i dont care if other poofs want to, im still voting no as im allowed to. why all of a sudden do we want to be like straight people..

>>140333095
ok cuck

>>140333098
How's having two headed siblings going for you, you fucking mutant?

>>140333095
You only just realised this?

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>>140333096
Name one country where there is direct democracy and the end amount of votes decides the election

>>140333100
I knew it about Americans but I thought Australians were only pretending to be retarded

>>140333101
Switzerland

>>140333103
Still uses a representative model with the cantons in place of electorates.

They do tend to hold a lot of referendums however so they are probably the closest thing to direct democracy in the world yeah

>>140333102
marriage is irrelevant because civil unions also
>le everyone who isn't the exact same as me is bad

>>140333105
Yeah if you're against the same rights for somebody because of which consenting adults they have sex with you deserve to have your fucking skull caved in

Would bully the absolute shit out of you irl

Why is this even a vote? just let people marry for crying out loud, its hardly a big deal.

>>140333106
Lmao ok cuck

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>lmao ok cuck

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Will be voting 'no', sorry faggots.

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>>140333110

>>140332992
>Voting at all

Real shame it's a plebiscite and not a referendum, so the government is wasting essentially $122 million on a poll they can in the end, just throw into the trash without a second thought.

Vote no Aussies, tell the politicians and PC leftist fags to fuck off
Will the expansion in influence of lebs/chinks/Muslims etc mean that gay marriage might not fly in 20 years time when they run the place or are they getting pozzed too?

>>140332992
It's possible for gay people to marry since 2001... haven't had any significant problems as far as i know. Not every one agrees with same sex marriage of course.

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>Vote no Aussies, tell the politicians and PC leftist fags to fuck off

Can the 122 million be spent on the original Labor FTTP NBN instead?

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tfw no bf

>>140333106
Marriage is inherently religious, civil unions are secular and available to all. Bully the absolute shit out of yourself because you're promoting infringement of rights in favour of rights of a smaller minority.

I don't care about marriage, I'm not going to vote on the government's shitty fucking survey that they will just ignore anyway, the notion possibly legally dismissed too. I don't mind if same-sex marriage is legal and practiced, or if it isn't, doesn't matter to me. Marriage is for retards in general. I am also bisexual.

My fleeting issue upon reading your reply is that you're a hypocrite and pretend that your political posturing and insults are anything other than pure selfishness. You bring false justification and lie to yourself of your desires. Rights are spooks, you're anti-egalitarian pretending to be egalitarian, egalitarianism is a spook, please kill yourself and get the fuck out of our thread. 4chan would be decent if NA was range banned.

>>140333118
Marriage has existed before religion you fucking retarded ape

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>>140333118
>Rights are spooks

>>140333118
>>140333119
Also stop pretending you know fuck all about stirner based on memes you've read, you can nullify literally any argument as almost anything can be called a "spook" and gays getting married doesn't infringe on your rights

I'd tell you to blow your fucking brains out but your government took your guns lmao

>>140333118
wrong

>>140333119
the problem of this is that marriage has become synonymous with religion. i want the two to be separate

>>140333118
just because you dont want to get married nobody else wants marriage?

it's more than a term though, it brings legitimacy to a partnership for many people

I agree the government is retarded and will ignore any criticism and I very much agree they will just disregard the ruling if there is a majority yes. they are absolutely deaf to the NBN being a fat crock of shit, so just think about what they will say to dismiss this once the vote is over.

>>140333123
I don't think religion should exist anyway.

>>140333123
Who gives a fuck about what you want, marriage has existed before religion and that's a fact. Fuck your cousinfucking mutant opinions, aren't they spooks though bro??

>>140333124
I kind of hope religion fades out eventually. theres always going to be religious people, but come on its been like thousands of years and we still believe in this shit. got nothing against religious people, but I have no plans on becoming religious

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>they vote to normalize mentally ills instead of investing in research to find a cure

The absolute state of the dying anglosphere.

>>140333123
>>140333125
>illiterate american

why am i not suprised?
did you even read the post?

> "the problem of this is that marriage has become synonymous with religion. i want the two to be separate"

as in

I DONT want religion to be associated with marriage

dumbfuck

>>140332992
I'm voting no

>>140333128
It's 4:30am here sorry can't read

The concept of marriage embodies the continuation of the human race and also pays homage to the 'family', which is the basic unit of society. By trying to redefine marriage which has traditionally been the celebratory union of a male and female to spend life together and continue the human race, we are essentially turning it into a worthless joke.

>>140333121
Anything CAN be a spook. It depends on the affect it has on you. It doesn't nullify shit. I wasn't talking about my "rights", I was talking about religious people, I'm not religious. I was speaking in the terms that you laid out. I don't care about marriage, I could vote yes or no, or not at all. I don't mind. I was briefly irritated that you, in your terms of reasoning, were hypocritical.

Also, you know nothing of our laws. At least I don't have to worry about getting my fucking brains blown out by sperg like you while I'm in a public place.

>>140333122
>>140333123
Read again, as I've said, I don't really care what happens with the marriage thing. Just this poster lying to themselves and being inconsistent within their own defined logic is irritating.

>>140333132
You are wrong though.

Marriage was originally about spreading material wealth by joining families and not religion.

>>140333132
Here's the logic I'm using: people don't deserve to be denied rights because they have sex with the wrong consenting adults

If you disagree you deserve to be choked to death

>>140333067
Not compulsory just a mail in response so we have all the older generations and those that feel passionately against it with a few gays voting yes.

I also have everyone I know voting No, and once we do get the public no they can stop bringing this shit up.

Tears all round hopefully.

>>140333134
Having an opinion on what rights are constitutional that doesn't confirm my views mean that you don't have a right to life

Well done mate. Top stuff

>>140333135
>his opinions align with those of demented geriatrics
>doesn't see a problem with this

>>140333133
You can't pretend that marriage isn't a central institution in abrahamic religions though. Old Testament God is obsessed enough with unprotected sex in the missionary position for the purposes of reproduction that he strikes Onan down dead for having too good a pullout game

>>140333136
Correct, not giving the same rights to someone for such a stupid reason means you deserve death, and that your death would be a net positive to the world

I hope you demonstrate in public and somebody decides to cave your skull in with a bat, everybody would be happier

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>>140333132
I never samefag. I'm the real deal, baby.

>>140333139
I pro gay marriage and in favour of true social equality, so yeah well done man. Truly me pointing out that your position is fucking retarded warrants death

Besides gay blokes can get married. They just have to find the right woman

Why do people pretend gay marriage has anything to do with equal rights though?

If straight people change their mind about being straight they aren't allowed to have marriage with someone of the same sex.

If a gay person changes their mind and decides to be straight they can get married.

How is that unequal?

Everyone has the same right to marry the opposite sex.

I say this as someone who is voting yes btw.

>>140333142
If being gay is so hard then why don't all gay people just CHOOSE to be straight? Wouldn't that make everything easier??? Whoa...

>>140333142
what did he mean by this?

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>>140333052

>>140333145
>image.jpg

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>>140333145

>>140333137
Just because your country fell to PC bullshit don't hate on those still holding out.

>>140333148
>giving the same rights to people who do nothing wrong
>PC bullshit

>>>/pol/
>>>/r/incels

>>140333143
I believe that some people are born gay.

I believe that not every gay person was born that way.

>>140333148
It's funny because in the 70's the people who oppose gay marriage would be the ones getting called politically correct.

>>140333148
fuck are you on about mate

>>140332992
Not good.

>>140332992
Not good lads. Don't do it. Fags are degenerates and since gay marriage the AIDs rate has skyrocketed.

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>>140332992
Can't people on this board do anything in life
without having to consult everyone first? If you want to vote for gays, and finally get married, be my guest, your marriage, and your vote have absolutely no effect on the rest of the world, stop asking everyone else to think for you, you brainless, wasteland dwelling, Emu dodger, christ!

>>140332992
Literally no reason to ban gay marriage. They're still going to be gay. Let them marry each other it'll at least shut them up.

>>140333007
That sounds like banning gays, not banning gay marriage. And that's still literally
>Ban things I don't like

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>>140334142
this
/pol/ is now officially a gay board
Breeders need not apply.

>>140333011
You ever felt encouraged to suck a dick before mate? Pretty tempting aye

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The only people I see winning from gay marriage is the marriage industry and divorce lawyers.

>>140332992
I'm a homo as I'm voting no

>>140334142
>what is a slippery slope

We have gay marriage. It's grand.

Our prime minister is a gay 2nd generation immigrant, but we don't have this angst and agonizing over idpol in Ireland so we all instantly hated him because he's a new money prick and a completely toothless PM. Will probably lose his seat in the next term.

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>>140332992
I'm voting no, i don't want this place turning into sweden xddd

>>140334471
A fallacy

>>140333127
che cazzo disastro :-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd

>>140332992
No, they already have civil unions.
Marriage is a Christian union between a man and a woman for the sake of raising children.
These Atheist leftist fucktards need to btfo.

>>140333052
Right:
Stop boat refugees from entering
Cut public programs and welfare
Cut industry taxes as much as possible
Cash hand outs for business partners
Sell assets and privatise
Classical economics

Left:
Stop polluting
Prop up education and science programs
Neo-Keynesian economics
Anti-discrimination
Improve public health and transport, internet (NBN)

>>140335400
Religion came after marriage, also civil unions aren't recognised between States so it is a human rights issue.

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Was this moved from /int/? Bunch of fucking gay poofta faggots.

>>140333069
I hope so. Honestly we don't have enough.

>>140333075
The petition was about her supporting gay conversion therapy

>>140333097
Because not every fag wants to live a degenerate sex crazed lifestyle

>>140332995
What the fuck are you on, mate?
take a look at any other western country that's legalized fag marriage, the degeneracy sure hasn't stopped. Vote NO

>>140332992
No for the meme value

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I was going to vote yes, but today I changed my mind. I'm voting no.

At first I thought that it was the right thing to vote yes, because regardless of my beliefs regarding what marriage is, I shouldn't prevent those that wish to consider same-sex marriage valid.

But it occurred to me today that the issues of homosexuality or marriage are not what's at stake here. The same-sex couples that want to get married are irrelevant. Equality, love, commitment, it's all secondary.

What is most important is tying up the resources of the Left. It's like a war. If we keep them stuck fighting for this strategically unimportant ground (civil unions already recognising same-sex couples), then they won't have the time or energy to start pushing to take more important ground.

Yes, they'll always be trying to fight for same-sex marriage, and we'll never hear the end of it. But that's the point, really. Keep them occupied, keep them distracted. Once they take same-sex marriage, they don't intend to just go home. They'll push for something else.

The same-sex couples that want to marry are pretty much caught in the crossfire. Unfortunate for them, but the Left has claimed them as their protectorate.

It's nothing personal. It's just one manoeuvre in a larger strategy.

>>140332992
it seems like no big deal until the government is stealing your kids and putting them with fag couples because you won't make you wee boy take hormone blockers and wear dresses..they don't stop at marriage

>>140335641
>Religion came after marriage
i'm gonna need source on that

>>140336241
The issue is with this logic is that you alienate the center who will be the swing voters for more important issues down the line that the left will push.

>>140335641
Marriage has become a matter of religion, which came first does not matter.
State recognition is not what we are voting on here.

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No, God no. Even if you've no faith in stopping in permanently, at least halting them would keep them distracted, focused on misappropriating fertility-promoting gibs.

It's one slippery damn slope. You give them this, they move onto the next thing. And the next. Before you know it you'll have non-gendered preschools indoctrinating 5-year olds and pushing hormones on them. This is not a road you want to walk.

>>140333118
Marriage was around well before religion mate

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Please don't tell me voting on this crap is mandatory.

I don't want to leave my room for this bullshit. If I can vote online then I would vote no but fuck walking to some high school to vote in a cardboard booth with other SJW's camped outside of the school screeching at me.

>>140333131
Actually marriage is just so you know who to give your shit to when you die. Always has been.

People breed all the same.

When do people go to polls? Can you vote online? When do we non- Aussies get the results?

>>140336478
Except state recognition is a consequence of the outcome of the vote so we voting on it. Also if you are willing to concede that changes in culture demand that the law change to reflect new realities than you are arguing your opponent's point

>>140336450
https://www.thespruce.com/history-of-marriage-2300616
It was used as a social contract between families to manage their shared wealth.

>>140333131
So you're saying marriage is just about a penis penetrating a vulva?

>>140336473

Can you elaborate on this?

Nah cunt tell em to get poz'd

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>>140332992
In favour of gay marriage and can't see much going wrong when it inevitably is legalised.

Still voting no because the lefties have been acting like absolute fucking dickheads about it. Fuck them.

The state shouldn't endorse or tolerate such a degenerate behaviour, vote no or face a future of canada.

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>>140337275
People in the centre support gay marriage, if a no vote comes through not only will it trigger the left but it will piss off centrists. These shitters will get pushed further left and are less likely to ever vote with conservatives again in more crucial matters.

>>140336962
>ancient rome
>ancient egypt
They both have religion anon
That wasn't helpful at all
I'm pretty sure marriage is a religious
institution no matter what

>>140338008
i would actually hate fuck the one on the left, not even ashamed of it

>>140338164
Although Ancient Rome and Egypt both had religion, marriage was solely for personal and legal reasons in those civilisations. Wedding ceremonies were only a thing to make sure there was witnesses to the arrangement for legal purposes. Marriage as a religious institution only became a thing well into the dark ages.

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I think it's good if the gays got married because it wouldnt harm anybody and be overall good for the community

>>140339045
It will probably reduce the number of sexual partners gays have as well, another win for /pol/

I'm voting NO. If YES gets up, next thing they'll be telling me is I can't go out on Saturday nights with me mates and do some full on poofta bashing. Slippery slope, see.

>>140339343
Naaahhhhhh
In coutnries with SSM, 4% of the fags place any value on monogamy. They want standard fuck parties and a marriage certificate to wave in our faces.

>>140339578
I'm interested in where you pulled the 4% from mate, good point to be made if it's a solid stat.

>>140336523
Listen to Sweden. They know how this road ends.

Doesn't matter. If it wins trunbull says no anyway so he doesn't get axed by vengeful tones. If it loses (either way) labor win next election and make it happen.

That being said, i'm voting no because some cunt shared some post with 'be on the right side of history' in it and that phrase literally triggers me so fucking hard.

>>140332992

Voting no just to spite the cunts.

Every media article and tv ad is forcing this shit so hard, and anyone who even THINKS about the other side is automatically labelled a homophobe and a bigot. Well fuck you whingers. Eat shit for life cunts.

>>140338701
Yes but nobody needed to marry until a
religion/culture was formed, only then would they need to marry for legal purposes.

I see Yes having more logical and reasonable points on almost every front but i'm likely voting No because I hate leftists so damn much, I hate how they say its about "human rights", I sypathise with traditionalists, I hate how almost every hot-button issue leftists raise here is imported from degenerate Americans and I believe the "slippery slope of degeneracy" argument.

>>140332992
when are the results?

and no you shouldn't because slippery slope

>>140335517
>Prop up education and science programs
>Neo-Keynesian economics
>Improve public health and transport, internet (NBN)

So left is the economic equivalent of flat earthers is what you're saying?

>>140338701
>only became a thing well into the dark ages

Yeah, nah cunt.

Matthew 19:4-6

The words of Jesus himself:

Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate"

>>140339814
http://thecouplesstudy.com/wp-content/uploads/BeyondMonogamy_1_01.pdf

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All of the degenerate pieces of shit that are promoting this faggotry should fucking kill yourselves

>>140342539
that kid should keep the kike psychiatrists in shekels for a very long time.

>>140342472
>"We chose to focus solely on non-monogamous couples."
Your source is kind of flawed because the study actively sought out those who fuck around while in long term relationships

>>140343043
That's cos they couldn't find any monogamous couples, fag.

Voting yes just to piss off all the fag haters.

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>>140342539
Christ almighty. I hope you BTFO these defects.

>>140343400
it's a bad idea, slippery slope

>>140343343
No need to call me a fag buddy, we're all mates here. It's fine to have the opinion you do mate, just do a better job finding evidence that supports your claims next time.

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>>140343400
dab on em haters

>>140343462
Deal with it brother

>>140332992
Don't give the gays their rights. America is one giant faggot now.
If you criticize faggots, you will be accused of hate speech and it will go on your permanent record.
>Give them an inch, they take a mile.

>>140343580
Deal with it? Australia being infested with SJWs? Why do you think I care about that?

>>140343620
>implying I am a SJW geek, let the cunts get married who gives a fuck

>>140343472
Sorry dude, I mistook you for that obnoxious rainbow flag troll we had here recently. I'm still looking for the stats - I know I found them a couple of years back prior to the stalinisation of google.

>>140332992
>should I vote to let the queers marry?
That's not what the vote is about. Queers can already marry privately and live together, nobody is stopping them.

You're voting for your tax money being used to spread LGBT propaganda.

Vote no. It's an AIDS covered slippery slope.

This is the biggest load of bullshit ever. It's a fucking $122m postal survey.
How about instead of pissing our tax dollars up against the wall, they table a bill in parliment to have a conscience vote on whether faggots should get married? The result being some actual fucking legislation, instead of a bunch of hot air.

>>140338669

As in the mother of the poor child for exposing her to these gay weirdos?

>>140332992
You answer your own question.

No. Embarrassed what a bunch of pansies my compatriots are. This will be the final nail in the coffin of the institution, with the added bonus of state-enforced pedarasty training. Literally every Aussie threatening to vote yes KYS.

>>140345183
If anything should be decided by a plebiscite or referendum, it is the question of redefining the defintion of marriage. WHichever side loses has to have the dignity of accepting the clear majority view of the people. Libs know the potential backlash if they pjush SSM through without a referendum/plebiscite. ALP knew this too when Gillard and Wong, of all people, refused to legislate SSM when they had the chance.
Shorten is just tickling Soros's balls by playing politics on the issue and causing this division.

Will be voting 'no' inshallah

It's a meme, doesn't matter, how many batty boys are there even in Australia? But if someone forces a business establishment to bake a cake for their wedding, tell them fuck right off, you have your rights.

>>140343400
I'm going to vote no to piss off the fag lovers. I think the butthurt will be more severe, akin to the literal tears at the DNC when Trump got elected.

>>140343400
What does voting no have to do with hate? Back in the day homos had some self respect. But today what do we get? Queer fucks like you that take yoga in the hope you can suck your own dick. Gtfo off this board.

>>140346363
>implying I can do yoga haha

> I have three kids who have five parents, more or less, and I don’t see why they shouldn’t have five parents legally… I met my new partner, and she had just had a baby, and that baby’s biological father is my brother, and my daughter’s biological father is a man who lives in Russia, and my adopted son also considers him his father. So the five parents break down into two groups of three… And really, I would like to live in a legal system that is capable of reflecting that reality, and I don’t think that’s compatible with the institution of marriage.

> This raises question about the true need to unravel marriage for the “fair” extension its benefits. Only 12 percent of homosexuals in the Netherlands marry compared to 86 percent of their heterosexual peers. Less than 20 percent of same-sex couples already living together in California married when given the chance in 2008. In contrast, 91 percent of heterosexual couples in California who are living together are married.

They can fuck off

will be voting no, too bad poofs

>>140343580
No. You deal with it. No way Jose.

>>140333049
You shouldn't vote for it
The referendum itself is completely irrelevant but all it does it move the debate to something like "trans rights" and then they come after freedom of speech. It'll be a vicious spiral just like in canada

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>>140332992
I will be voting no because I hate them and i want to burn them in ovens and gas them to death in concentration camps.

>>140346696
You an NXT fan ?

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>>140332992
Vote no. I'm not even against homosexuals as a matter of course, but the decision has only been used in bad faith in Burgerland to make you BAKE THE FUCKING CAKE at the point of the State's gun. The slipper slope is real and not a fallacy as applied to politics. Precedent matters.

Voting no, cos fags can already hook up via civil union.

If it aint broke, don't fix it.

>>140346851
slippery* goddamn it

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>>140332992
Google "Homosexual Relationship Divorce Rates" and come back and tell me if they
should be given the privilege to marry.

It's good that we're one of the last few
Western countries to not allow that shit.

>>140332992
No because, like here, they will become an extremely vocal community and start the slippery slope. Every time something goes wrong, their voice will be heard and will overcome the voice of the majority vote because of "much sexual oppression". Fags are a tiny percentage of America, yet they are one of the loudest lobbies and our government finds it more worthwhile to help these people carry out their perverse lifestyle than actually help those in need like the mentally disabled or the poor. They are a leech and will drain your society dry of morality.

>>140332992
my country was one of the first to legalize it. Turns out nothing really happened.

Hardly any sodomites actually get married.
This vote is not about gay marriage it's about whether we are going to keep taking leftist's shit or not.

>>140346047
I think you might be getting your terms mixed up a bit. A plebiscite is much like what we have now, i.e. the results are non-binding. The only difference between the postal survey and a plebiscite, is that voting in a plebiscite is mandatory.
You can only have a referendum to change the constitution, and the marriage act is not part of the constitution.
So the only way for anything meaningful to happen is for parliament to actually vote on it, anything else is just wank.

>>140347009
>It's good that we're one of the last few
>Western countries to not allow that shit.
You raise a good point.
We could raise a very good counter-point to the YES(((pushers))). We will support Same Sex Marriage only if Isreal introduces Same Sex Marriage.

>>140333024
what repercussions does it have for you? Your parents set you up for a gay marriage or something?

>>140347464
No, I used my term deliberately. Turnbull was elected on the platform of having a plebiscite. Shorten thought he could tickle Soros's balls by blocking the plebiscite, even though the ALP refused to legislate on SSM during the 6 years they were in power.
The postal survey is the best Turnbull can do due to Shorten's fuckery.
I would very much like a compulsory plebiscite on this issue because the loser really needs to have the dignity to accept the result.

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>>140332992
Only queers vote yes.

I was watching the launch of the high court challenge to the postal vote on ABC news this morning and though most had good arguments for raising the challenge, I found laughable the token lesbian mum's reason...which was basically 'muh hurt feelings'.

Made me want to vote no even more!

>>140347854
Ah yes I understand what you mean now. I agree that a plebiscite would be preferable to the postal survey, because at least being a mandatory vote it would more accurately represent to public's opinion on it. Then as you say, the party who blocks it would loose serious political capital in doing so.