What is the possibility North Korea could launch a nuke

>>140307108
There's not possibility of such. They're getting destroyed next week.

America is so fucked if an EMP hits us.

Should I put my Sega Saturn in a faraday cage right now?

>>140307319
I know That's what's I'm scared about and wanted to know if it could happen

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>>140307467
It's very unlikely. Any ICBM flung at us at a distance has a chance it could be shot down. And then there is the fact that the US would be able to track where is was launched from and retaliate with 10x the force.
MAD is the only policy that's ever achieved peace.

>>140307108
There are two satellites orbiting the planet right now with soviet suitcase warheads on board.

the ace in the hole
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=41332
http://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=39026

>>140307108

Zero

EMP only effects the immediate area to any appreciable amount.

US detonated nukes off Hawaii in space and nothing happened.

>>140307698
NOKOs have two orbiting satellites at the perfect altitude to EMP the US, they cross the US twice a day

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>>140307698
Ok thank you I'm less paranoid now

>>140307977

And it won't do shit, anon.

If you're affected by EMP, the thermal radiation of the nuke is a far bigger worry.

>>140307446
achually, all your consoles are shielded so the norks cant take em out. The nes-snes games might not make it though.

>>140307319
Thankfully our subs can launch EMPs on the rest of the world out of sheer revenge

>>140308108
Its 300 miles away you will be fine. Well at least heat is not a factor for you.

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>>140307108
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/rick-wiles-issues-an-extremely-ominous-warning-the-alarms-are-ringing-again

>>140307108
wtf is this graphic?

>>140307977
Do you really think that the most powerful nation on earth is not aware of this?

Do you not think they DONT have something to prevent/lessen a nork weapon flying in space right now?

Btw I am glad all these nuclear defense experts started visiting pol these past few days
Its really nice to have them around

>>140307446
HURRRY!!!!!!

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>>140307977
Unless those satellites are carrying nukes, we shouldn't be worried.

>>140308269
US silos are hardened against EMPs or nearby nuclear blast. They would be operation too.

>>140307319
a bunch of us are planning on sending thank-you letters on behalf of /pol to lil kim if that happens because it will raise the post quality logarithmically

>>140308852
Any nuke that would detonate at a high enough altitude to knock out the US would knock out Canada too.

>>140307698
no

>>140307108
emp is a meme. stop listening to fox

>>140307108
it's going to happen. the usa will be immobilized. millions will die when the power goes, kek has foretold. we will win but the damage will last for years as we rebuild. communism will be made illegal.

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>>140307785
You don't think space force has been up there to check them out?

>>140307108

Maybe all you burgers will finally wake up from your slumber and realize that your whole country is getting cucked by Jewish bankers.

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>>140308978
yes

We can do it too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime

>>140307108
100% chance, US is only used to bully poor desert holes to take their lunch money and make them his bitch, anyone with a fist would thoroughly knock him out.

>>140307785
countries actually do honour agreements. there are no nuclear assets posted permanently in space, that agreement was made decades ago and tactically speaking there is no added benefit to them over conventional weapons or ICBMs for nuclear payloads.

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>>140307108
Don't forget that the US could be back up in under a week. They also have fleets in the pacific that can automatically respond. plus, the white house and pentagon most definitely have back up power sources. NK would be dead on the very same day.

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>>140309153
Jokes on you Leaf I don't eat burgers

>>140307108
All of the US: 0%
Some: Possibly
Will it they ever try?: No

>>140309254
The US is on the cusp of nuclear primacy the efficacy of MAD is a misnomer consider is denotes mutual suicide not a victory. Neither China nor Russia have the proverbial technology for an overwhelming precision based first strike contingency. In a crisis, they are both vulnerable states especially in consideration to the Trident system's ease of mobility, the Strangelove argument is obsolete.

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>>140308947
i'm posting from a navy vessel, i'm an intelligence officer who tactically shitposts for the government with the goals of promoting diversity, multiculturalism, and nonbinary sexual identity

>>140309634
this. only brainlets doubt our nuclear supremacy.

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>>140309634
It still proves true due to the sheer amount of allies America is invested into. Mushroom clouds over Seoul or Tokyo are not a desirable outcome for the US and it's possible the norks could swarm enough nukes to strike those cities.

No one is making the argument North Korea has the capability to wipe out the US.

EMP is a real thing but ludicrously overestimated and misunderstood just like neutron bombs to the point of fantasy.

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>>140310081

>>140307108
EMP blasts are the biggest fucking conspiracy tryhard bullshit with the standard lux aeterna music in the background. same with aliens. take your fucking meds

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>>140310245
But the ((REPTILIANS))

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>>140307108
Can't wait for an emp. Fallout IRL.

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>>140307108
>What is the possibility North Korea could launch a nuke and emp all of the us
i fucking hope it's very high to fait accimpli

>>140307108
What if they send a H-Bomb into Yellowstone? Or plant one at the bottom of the sea and create a 100 foot tsunami on NY or LA?

>>140310081
Japan is a de facto nuclear state with a hair trigger nuclear contingencies a.k.a bombs in the basement that can be developed in " screwdrivers turn". 14 nuclear plants with uranium programs and an experience in re-entry vehicle successes make them an armed buffer state and ally with just as much advancement over North Korea. Your prior assertion lumps in MAD as a deterrent of at which in this juncture does not follow.

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Say Russia or China choose to nuke us... What is the safest city state or region to be in?

I am in Denver... Am I safe?

>>140307108
"all of us"

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>>140310469
That isn't their style

Nukes are a scam, they do not exist

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>>140310755

>>140307108

It would never get so far inland to begin with. Feels good to be a liberal elite living in Chi-Congo and not a Gook Nigger White Trash Spic in Commiefornia.

>>140310755
Wtf I hate science now

>>140310624
This is why you lost Vietnam. Nobody is going to fight you toe to toe. They are going to do shit you don't expect.

>Red, commanded by retired Marine Corps Lieutenant General Paul K. Van Riper, adopted an asymmetric strategy, in particular, using old methods to evade Blue's sophisticated electronic surveillance network. Van Riper used motorcycle messengers to transmit orders to front-line troops and World-War-II-style light signals to launch airplanes without radio communications.

>Red received an ultimatum from Blue, essentially a surrender document, demanding a response within 24 hours. Thus warned of Blue's approach, Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected.

>At this point, the exercise was suspended, Blue's ships were "re-floated", and the rules of engagement were changed; this was later justified by General Peter Pace as follows: "You kill me in the first day and I sit there for the next 13 days doing nothing, or you put me back to life and you get 13 more days' worth of experiment out of me. Which is a better way to do it?"[1] After the reset, both sides were ordered to follow predetermined plans of action.

>After the war game was restarted, its participants were forced to follow a script drafted to ensure a Blue Force victory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

>>140310531
>Japan can just build nukes to counter North Korea's nukes
>MAD doesn't work anymore
pick one

>>140310535
grab rifle get in jeep
go innamountains

>>140311101
I can pick both because your assertion isn't grounded in reality.

>>140311101
There is no need for a MAD volley when the preemptive strike destroys the countermeasures.

>>140310469
the yellowstone thing has been addressed by a few different geoscience research papers, that isn't how volcanos erupt. it's not like popping a blister. if anything a volcano would be like sticking a pin in a blister and letting it drain slowly, it wouldn't be a catastrophic eruption as has happened before

as for tsunamis, there have been many underwater nuclear tests. they're not popular now because it will fuck with fisheries and things like that but they have been done and the amount of water you would have to displace is signficantly higher than what a 200kt nuke could do. weird things would happen but it wouldn't displace the amount of water that an underwater earthquake of 6.2 surface magnitude would produce because a lot of the energy dissipates when it enters the water

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>>140311858
What's the first one

>>140311699
It's only a 200kt nuke because it has to fit onto a missile. If it's just going to be placed on the seabed it could be much much larger.

A warhead of up to 100 megatons could produce a tsunami up to 500m (1,650ft) high, wiping out all living things 1,500km (930 miles) inland.

>>140311274
At least Kim will die with his people free and leaving no profit to invaders.

>>140312219
My cousin works at nintendo, can confirm.

I'm actually praying for an EMP so nobody has to hear about pizzagate shit anymore

>>140312061
pretty sure it was around 11132

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>>140312331
Based kim

>>140310245
It's funny how the moment tensions rise with N.Korea all of a sudden half of /pol/ is going MUH E EM PEES. I wouldn't be surprised if they were N.Korean shitposters.

>>140312331
a noble end for the greatest eternal leader in best korea

>>140307248
>next week
>not this week

>>140312331
A very tough situation. But honestly, a massive bombardment of conventional weaponry in a surprise apparatus would suffice. Fewer people dead, less backlash from the social international community and a goalpost for superior stratagem against a rogue nuclear state, without using nukes.

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>>140312642
The greatest leader snd the last of the resistance for freedom.

>>140312219
Waste of a nuke. And Still not powerful enough.

>>140310531

You bring up a good point.

Much of the West could develop functional warheads and ICBMs in about a year if it was needed.

Japan launches tiny rockets into space.

have EMPs even been used or tested before? what the worst that can happen? no electricity or interwebs? unable to shitpost or use faceberg for a few days? what's the big deal?

>>140307108
0% because we would strike with the subs and there would be no more north korea

honestly we should double or sub fleet so that if they do this china gets blatted as well for allowing this transgression to form

>>140312989
Lost of control of the US and power abroad.

>>140313077
Emp = no fuctioning anything no power only means of communication in mail.

>>140313225
Riding horses.

>>140312957
Japan's window is at about a year also, but I'm sure they have some sort of "gun in the sock' in the plan if things spin out of control for the allied shield. Ultimately I'm sure the boomers in the area can just ripple shot submerged, stagger form, and wipe out a large chunk of the NK silos.

>>140307108
0% unless the JCOS and NATO chiefs allow it to happen to advance their goals a la lusitania/pearl harbl/nine eleven/et cetera
the only ones who could get a nuke to sail into the u.s. and detonate is russia and maybe china, or i guess israelis could subvert our systems but there's no need for then to since they own the JCOS/NATO so it would simple be an instance of the first case, not by the virtue of any actual military capability

>implying that bottle rocket would even get close to an optimal position for detonation

>all these posts about IF A BOMB HITS US WERE FUCKED

They literally don't understand the money the US spends to prevent and respond to these kinds of things. All out war, I am confident the US wins.

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its not a "bomb". Its actually a "bong". Usual mistranslation from NK to english.

I admit its the craziest looking bong I've ever seen, but you know stoner culture, they'll make bongs out of the craziest shit.

>>140307108
>>140307108
> I thought i was safe, livedead ass in the middle of Kansas
>no action, small population, no reason to be scared
>forget emp's are a thing

What would happen if they hit yellowstone?

>>140313689
it would trigger massive volcanic eruption.

i think you've just figured out NK's master plan: one nuke dropped on the supervolcano could wipe out whole northern hemisphere

>>140313689
MFW Kim bases his nuclear attack program on what he reads on /pol

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>>140307108
>mfw Alaskan and unaffected

>msw they fuck up their aim and hit alaska by accident

>>140314236
They will be fine people in Alaska just live in log cabins anyway

>>140313527
my bet is the Shinning Star satellite that NK launched last year contains the HBomb they were given and when they where done studding it to reverse engineer it they launched it. Its their fail safe I mean they keep threating EMP and the fucking name of the Satellite makes it obvious.

>>140314396
Alaska has a city of 300K with the 5th busiest airport for cargo in the world.

Actually, if they're smart, they'll try to avoid hitting that because a lot of transpacific (read: Chinese) commerce comes through here

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>>140307108
they are far more likely to use an EMP than an actual nuke
>aside from few cases of life-sustaining systems failing and accident deaths -- initial loss of life is relatively minimal, no gruesome scenes, no giant fireball, no terrible tragedy for the world to condemn
>a number of ways to deploy it without launching an obvious arc form your country to the enemy. added effect of electronics being wiped out, means any local equipment that could collect and store evidence of your attack is useless -- it's a crime that erases all evidence
>if you have strong allies, they could help you create enough disinfo, while the target is in chaos, cut off from the world and devoid social order, internal communications or power structures. in the end, nobody would be sure you did it, if you do it correctly. very different from a nuclear attack
TL;DR: nature of the attack, being far less lethal (at least at first) than nukes and being a self-obfuscating crime basically means the world would be more confused and less likely to retaliate; political cost of ignoring it would be much less than a nuke but the effects would remove your enemy from the global power game in one move

if it came by way of rocket, they'd be far more likely to launch a more reliable shorter range missile from a shipping vessel, possibly disguised as another nation, group, etc.
could also surprise everyone when it turns out one of their satellites was a nuke tuned for emp all along

>>140307698
they won't launch an ICBM, true. too clear of an attack, too much time for the rocket to get to US, MAD still applies
as to missile defense: remember how that missile that flew over Japan last week was shot down? yeah, guess the warny part or the shooty part didn't work so well

>>140308683
>Unless those satellites are carrying nukes, we shouldn't be worried
that's his point though
Norks had nukes long before they had the ability to make them into warheads
>satellites they launched were plenty large though

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When is there going to be a happening? I'm so sick of waiting for nuclear annihilation.

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>>140316127
>guess the warny part or the shooty part didn't work so well
I'm just saying.
It's a completely different game if they send a missile over the US.

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>>140316445
no argument there, if they even launched on a trajectory resembling one that could reach US, North Korea would go from the darkest country from space to record-setting levels of brightness

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>>140310967
Low tech under good leadership almost always wins in a fight against doctrine-queens with high tech. We saw this a lot with the early stages of Afghanistan. The good news is that a lot of leaders have learned from the wars we've been in And understand guerilla tactics a lot better now.

I'd never really looked into this exercise too mich, but it seems to me that a whole bunch of navyfags got buttmad, and instead of trying to fix their doctrine to deal with a very real threat, just decided to hamstring the resistance in order to save face from their own incompetencies.

>>140307108
>MUH SHITCOINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No need to worry!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dqhixzGVo

>>140309118

I do not. You know how hard that is to do motherfucker? You know like 70% of military aged americans are not eligible for military service because they suck so bad? We’re completely fucked. This shit has been a lie the whole time you stupid fucking asshole i hope that shit lands on your fucking head

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>>140317059
>implying anyone on 4chan knows how to use a pencil

>>140309350
Why is it always a fucking leaf, Holy shit. Are you really that naive?

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>>140318081
Rendezvous with a satellite in Earth orbit is pretty simple. They figured it out in the 60's and they do it every time they resupply or rotate crews on the ISS.

Send one of these puppies up and the Norks will never know what happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ0mSNsGlcQ