Is a ~100 megaton hydrogen bomb really that bad? It is not like

>>140284819

Depends on where you throw it. It would be best in los angeles, it would be worst in rome.

in planetary scale, yes, is pretty small, a little fart at most

>>140285030
I support nuking LA

>>140284819

>It is not like the earth would crack in half

Considering there hasn't been an air-det nuke since we covered the ionosphere in metal, there's no way to know.

100 megaton would be overkill, even for nuking and killing Germans.

>>140284819
Most of the energy would be lost to space. 10-10mt would fuck more shit up.

>>140285030
>>140285126
You couldnt destroy los Angeles Without destroying Las Vegas

>>140285030
>nuke Jay Leno's immaculate car collection
Nuke niggers and LGBTestless in San Fran instead. Knock out Apple too, kek

Don't write the full comment in the options menu please
It would cause widespread devastation and depending on target areas leave millions dead

>>140284819
TSAR BOMB HITTING YELLOWSTONE COULD CAUSE SOME MAJOR DAMAGE

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>>140285304
oh no degenerate capital, how would the world recover.

I guess the big question I am asking is why not normalize the acceptance of using these? It is not like the movie Threads after all, just a slightly more powerful explosion, and many of the modern ones are much more environmentally conscious and have megaton yields WAY less than Hiroshima.

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>>140284819
luke others have said, depends on where its set off, for the best bang for the buck it should be detonated just off the continental shelf as close to commiefornia as possible, the resulting tsunami would cleanse this nation of a major portion of its cancer and not be as devastating fallout wise.

kimmy un cant aim his shit, and we cant shoot it down if its under literal miles of ocean. this is his best bet.

>>140284819
The 2004 Earthquake in the Indian Ocean was like 10k gigatons.

the chicxulub impact was about 100 million megatons and even that didn't leave too big of a dent (even if it did make a big mess).

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>>140285304
100 megatons is not that much, although it is 10 thousand hiroshima bombs, still thats small in the scale of the planet

the impact that supposedly kill the dinasours was ONE MILLION 100 megaton bombs, all at once

>>140285463
HEY THATS NOT VERY FUNNY LAS VEGAS IS PRETTY COOL I SHOULD KNOW I WENT THERE WHEN I WAS A KID AND IT WAS PRETTY FUN THINK OF ALL THE LIGHTS YOURE JUST JEALOUS BECAUSE YOU NEVER GOT TO GO THERE THAT MOVIE THE HANGOVER WAS PRETTY FUNNY YOU GOT TO ADMIT I OWN ALL THREE ON BLURAY I HOPE THEY MAKE ANOTHER ONE ONE MAN WOLFPACK AMIRITE LOL PRAISE KEK TOP LEL

>>140285030
Yeah, but you'd need to destroy all of LA, or those fuckers might move east where I live.

>>140285684
>>140285715
UN hivemind in the working,

good job faggot

Earth ate another planet and swallowed it's core. No we can not crack it in half

>>140285307

Jay Leno's cars were the first thing I thought of when I heard LA was on fire

>>140285843

I wouldn't say it ate Theia.

The moon still exists, after all.

>>140285861
If he isn't moving them inland, he's a mong.
But then we are talking about Jay Leno...
If he isn't moving them inland, he's a gargantuan mong.

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>>140285861
sad.

>>140285843
What's up with the moon? Where did that weird ass thing come from?

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>>140285777
stop flirting with me using your degeneracy

>>140285965

Hollow satellite crafted from Theia.

Why mention 100 Megaton? Nork popper is only 100 Kilotons.

>>140285777
10/10 post

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>>140285618
>The energy released on the Earth's surface only (ME, which is the seismic potential for damage) by the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami was estimated at 1.1×1017 joules,[30] or 26 megatons of TNT.

t. wikipedia

9.6kgt was released including what was released lower into the earth.

It's also worth mentioning that energy was released over like 6 minutes, not all within a millisecond like a nuclear bomb would be.

tl;dr don't release shit from your ass onto this board

>>140286082
once you break the second stage, and get fusion, is relatively easy to scale up

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>>140285715
Yes but the fireblast isnt the only thing to worry about here. EMP blast and radioactive fallout being the others.

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>>140285965
its a world ship. not a natural satellite. its surface is covered in exactly the same mix of materials you would want to insulate occupants from the radiation in space. the craters only get so deep regardless of the impact. distance is exact distance to cover the suns light. seems to be hollow. UFOs galore spotted by both nasa and amateur astronomers. lights and tracks can be seen on the surface. either we have a base, or there were already people there when we arrived.

lots of info on the theory out there if youre interested.

>>140284819
It wouldn't actually crack the Earth, nice hyperbole, but hydrogen bombs are exponentially more powerful than nuclear bombs. They are far more devastating.

>Why mention 100 Megaton? Nork popper is only 100 Kilotons.

You busted me. That was my intent.

>>140284819
Weren't they saying emp? Arnt we more worried about air burst anyways

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>>140285307
Leave jay alone. leave him alone

>>140284819
There's literally nothing wrong with a 100MT hydrogen bomb.

>>140286406

>tfw barely live outside on the safe zone
>tfw I will witness the biggest happening in american history

>>140285030
If you hit Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant in Avila, CA which sits directly on the San Andreas fault, that would be pretty devastating and send shockwaves up and down the coast, potentially triggering a massive earthquake. There are other places that would be potential targets that are not necessarily population centers that could have a knock-on effect that would be devastating and would have far more wide-reaching impact than nuking LA for example.

/pol/acks only seem to think of the cities & population, but military planners & intel think of other types of targets, too.

>>140285575
What the fuck are you talking about, Hiroshima was 15 kt that's 0,015 Mt.. We're talking 100 Mt vs 0,015 Mt.

To put in in perspective, the fireball of such a weapon would be calculated in dozens of kilometers. Hiroshima's fireball was a few hundred meters wide at best. Imagine a fucking ball of FIRE burning as hot as a sun on the surface of the earth. For miles. With winds and changes in pressure so important they could LITERALLY knock the shit out of you all the while melting your fucking face and eyeballs away like a fucking fruit under an industrial rust removal laser gun even though you are three hundred kilometers away from its hypocenter

that's a whole lot of "fuck you" for an "environmentally conscious" device you fucking nigger

>>140287023
We're tired of your CIA lies. We know you blow that shit up all the time under ground.

>>140287024
>t. french cuck with weak nukes

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>>140286888
I live in Tucson, and I for one welcome Arizona's new ocean front.

>>140285965
>Proto-Earth knocked into Theia
>leftovers of Theia formed asteroid belt
and then either
>ayylmaos built device as though a microscope to study creatures that swarm and thrive in a drop of water, using asteroid belt
or
>one big asteroid became American
>ate all the other asteroids

Bombs are for nazis

Fuck off nazi scum

>>140287099
The question was one of target location and resulting devastation. Lighting one off underground in testing is not comparable to the question asked or answered. Perhaps I'm woefully underinformed but I'm not aware of CIA igniting any hydrogen bombs in testing locations anywhere (inb4 false flags) - that's strictly military.

all these traitors wanting to destroy America
ahmed cucked you all you faggots. I'll enjoy USA ruling over all you faggots for centuries to come. COME AT ME FAGGOTS, HEIL AMERICA

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>>140287024
absolutely this.
all modern nukes are many-fold more powerful than either bomb dropped on japan.
i really enjoyed reading that post, btw

>>140287438
CIA NIGGERS
MIT NIGGERS GLOW IN THE DARK
ALWAYS HAVE MILITARY ASSETS
READ "THE SECRET TEAM" BY COL. L. FLETCHER PROUTY RET.

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>>140287023
>mfw i live in los osos, on the other side of the canyon

>>140287474
poor lad, youre like a cabin boy blowing the captain who doesnt even know the ship is sinking. trump wasnt chosen to rock the boat you pleb, we chose him to crash the fucker. all is going as planned.

>>140287194
Read the post of the guy I'm responding to. Also yeah nah our arsenal's good

Enough nukes go off at the same time can set fire to the earths atmosphere.

Like 5 or 6.

>>140287755
>our
lol did rapefugees bring a dirty bomb with them achmed?

>>140287872
thats why we need more co2 tbqh

>>140287024
This obviously includes all animals, infrastructure and vegetation as well. It could also cause a volcano to obliterate most of the United States or a quake that would rock the hemisphere

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>>140287645
hit the cia niggers with your automobiles

>>140287024
>>140287628
Yes, and people don't generally realize these are exploded OVER a target for maximum effect - craters don't damage the same radius or degree. Hydrogen bombs are exponentially more powerful - think Tunguska...

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>>140287872
this is fucking wrong though. we dont have o2 in enough concentration to be combustable, the majority of our atmosphere is carbon dioxide, not flammable

>>140285596
Hey I think I know how we can solve the Israel/Palestine problem

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>>140287645
Stop shouting, you'll wake the baby!

>>140287872
What about the tsarbomba? Was it not like way bigger than 5 or 6?

>>140288200
They dialed it back from full yield because russians are pussies.

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>>140287024
While I think the subject is surrounded with hysteria, I think the Frenchie is correct. We should not play with bombs that use nukes as triggers, nor should we tolerate those who do.

>>140287645
>MIT NIGGERS GLOW IN THE DARK
made me kek
>READ "THE SECRET TEAM" BY COL. L. FLETCHER PROUTY RET.
Will do. I'm just a random neet who likes exotic weapons research and weird shit like that.
You might look into Lt. Col. Tom Bearden (Ret.)
http://cheniere.org/

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>>140287923
Sure thing americuck

You guys keep comparing dicks with russia while we maintain an useful arsenal that doesn't cost our taxpayers their healthcare in dismantling costs

oh wait, that already happened

>>140285435
Doubt it, you have no idea what it would take to make Yellowstone explode.

>>140288200
The Tsar is 100 Mt

>>140285965
for real?
the earth was formed by vortex accumulation. it was a opened ended bubble, until a large planet flew by, distorting spacetime and ripping a little moon bubble out of earth (also closing the north pole in the process.) the moon was ripped from the pacific sea area and the earth bubble got a bit smaller when it happened.
So the moon in a wee bubble of earth.

>>140288461
Good luck not finding your own nukes or radioactive material on the black market at some point in history

>>140287695
Oh no, you're fucked. Neat park, tho.

>>140285304
Nope

http://www.nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

>>140288158
Actually it's mostly nitrogen u Fucking retarded faggot alt left granny. If it was most co2 you would be Fucking dead. I'd love to shove all trannys and alt into mostly co2 rooms tho

>>140287024
A 100 Mt bomb would only produce a fireball just under 8 km

Jesus Christ, americans are dumb beyond belief!
I will save this thread as a constipation medicine.

>>140284819
No, but it's not an attractive option since it's much more effective to have a lot of smaller nukes than one big bomb.

>>140288711
excuse me we don't use fag measurements here ok?

>>140288786
Eat that shit, Faggot.

>>140288662
See >>140286406

>>140285777
I am all out of sides

>>140288650
You forgot to activate your proxy.

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if you nuke the Yellowstone Supervolcano, it would destroy most of the United States

That's what IFL Science said on Facebook

>>140288810
Sorry babe. About 5 miles.

>>140288995
Yeah and Bill Nye the No-Science Guy said we were ALL GON' DIE

General Mattis called Air Force Global Strike Command headquarters shortly after he issued the go code. I have a portion of the transcript of that conversation if you'd like me to post it.

>>140284819

No.

The Sumatra EQ was measured in gigatons.

>>140285777
>Those Vegas digits

>>140289084
Nearest gun store is 2mi away. I'll be fine.

Google environmental effects of tsar bomba test in america. It tells you about the resulting radiated rain that happened from the 50 megaton blast

>>140288786
It is sad. Most don't understand the difference between atom bomb and hydrogen bomb and so are conflating the two without any scientific difference as to the mechanisms or understanding of the different levels of devastation between each.

>>140288711
>only

>>140289430
>google

not believing nothing from those result tampering kikes

>>140289430
I wonder how long it will take before they come up with a better cover story for Fukushima.

>OH SHIT SON
>OBAMA JUST DRONED THAT SHIT
>HERE LOOK AT THE PICTARS

>>140289549
>history of cold war tech is political
Then use a different browser dumbass. Check wikipedia at least.

>>140288656
>Neat park
which? do you mean the elfin forest? montana de oro?

i just hope i'm sitting at the bar when it happens.

>>140288995
2 Ash zones, so 4 eruptions before America becomes Pokemon master.

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>>140285963
>Pic
I-is she a Bog?

>>140284819

NUKES ARE 75 YEARS OLD

ROCKS WILL MELT

For those who think that atomic and hydrogen bombs are the same:
>The primary difference between a Hydrogen Bomb and an Atomic Bomb is that an Atomic Bomb used nuclear fission of create the energy blast, whereas a Hydrogen Bomb uses nuclear fusion. A Hydrogen Bomb is far deadlier and dangerous than an Atomic Bomb.

>Both are types of nuclear weapons, also colloquially known as weapons of mass destruction. Both are capable of great destruction; however they differ in the manner that they react in order to bring about this said destruction. The atomic bomb is a type of fission based nuclear weapon, which basically means that it uses a fission reaction to create heat and energy. Here, the energy is created by assembling enriched uranium or plutonium into a supercritical mass and then by either by shooting one piece of sub-critical material into another, which is called the gun method, or by compressing using explosive lenses a sub-critical sphere of material using chemical explosives to many times its original density, which is known as the implosion method. The implosion method is used only with plutonium and does not work with uranium. For uranium, the gun method is more popular.

>The hydrogen bomb, on the other hand, uses a fusion type reaction. They are also commonly referred to as thermonuclear weapons. The process of a fusion reaction actually involves a fission reaction, which is necessary to set off the fusion reaction. In fact, it is possible that a significant amount of energy released in a fusion reaction comes from the fission reaction.
http://www.differencebetween.info/difference-between-a-hydrogen-bomb-and-an-atomic-bomb

HYDROGEN BOMB IS FAR, FAR MORE POWERFUL THAN REGULAR ATOM BOMB

100mt Hydrogen > 100mt Atom

>>140289205
DO IT FAGGOT

>>140284819
For anything bigger that 100 megatons the fireball will be thicker than the atmosphere and the extra energy would radiate off into space.
>>140285274

>>140289917
FUCK HYDROGEN
I ONCE LEFT THAT FUCKING SHIT IN THE MICROWAVE
STYROFOAM CONTAINER
GOD DAMN IT

>>140284819
When the Russians tested the Tsar Bomba, they reduced its yield in half for fear of possibly altering the earth's orbit around the sun.

>>140289784
Montana de Oro. And yeah, being at the bar when it pops off is breddy good. Reminds me of Hitchhiker's Guide (not the faggy movie, the book)

>>140287024
>To put in in perspective, the fireball of such a weapon would be calculated in dozens of kilometers.


In comparison, it is only 8 km as opposed to 24+ km

Thats 5 miles as opposed to 15+ miles for you sweetie >>140288810

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>>140285777
>vegas digits
I r8 8/8

>>140289917
>100 megaton TNT equivalent from hydrogen > 100 megaton TNT equivalent from atomic
Now where do the mental gymnastics apply here?

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>>140285030
Roll for San Francisco

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>Tsar Bomba

That is all

>>140290116
HIGH ENERGY BRO, I MISSED YOU

>>140290246
>>140289917
hory crap, "devastating effects of" somehow got deleted. Makes no sense without it. Yeah oops

*devastating effects of* 100mt hydrogen bomb > 100mt atomic bomb

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>>140289917
100 mt = 100 mt

also pic related taken from this comprehensive article on the NYTimes
>https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/03/world/asia/north-korea-hydrogen-bomb.html

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>>140284819
>100 megaton
15 kiloton hiroshima bomb
>15 kilotons = .015 megatons
6667x more power
(pic related)

>>140289917
>100mt Hydrogen > 100mt Atom

American intellect.

You do know that the measure for explosive power is told in how much TNT it would take to cause that explosion. What you are saying is the same as claiming a 1 kg of lead weighs more than 1 kg of feathers.

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>>140290444
UNLEASH THE POWER OF THE SUN

>>140285030
Why do people always want to nuke LA when San Francisco is a scourge on Earth. Every terrible politician is from there. Every shitty state bill in California is introduced by someone from there

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>>140290741
>>140290911
>>140291004
>>140291061
guide for retards

>>140290753
Volume doesn't scale like that.

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>>140290905
horrible typing snafu on my part, no excuse see >>140290647

am ashamed, will go stand in corner now senpai

>>140290741
>>140290911
>>140291004
>>140291061
Visual aids help, thanks Francois

>>140290963
>Why do people always want to nuke LA
Because it is, besides NYC & London, Jew Central.

>>140289917
>In fact, it is possible that a significant amount of energy released in a fusion reaction comes from the fission reaction
*Most* of the energy comes from the fission reaction.

The initial fission stage starts the fusion reaction, but even that is still just a neutron pump for the final fission stage.

So both are primarily fission weapons.

>>140291437
Can't do it without the fusion mate. That's the trick to it all.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMYYEsKvHvk

>>140289917
tfw we wont ever bring the neutron bomb back

>>140291671
ONLY ONE COUNTRY EVER NUKED THE NIPNONGS AND EVEN NAMED THE PLANE

ENLOA GAY

GUESS WHICH ONE FARTHEAD

>>140288200

IIRC tsarbomba was 50MT. It was dialed back for testing from 100MT.

>>140285942
a little bit that escaped with a belch

>>140284819
Correct. It takes at least 201 megatons to crack the world in half.

>>140286712
Yea, 100M is twice as big as the largest nuke ever detonated (tsar bomba @ 50MT). Norks are 1000 times smaller still

>>140291848
Yes, they did that because they feared a full-scale test would alter the Earth's orbit.

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>>140290905
>1 kg of lead weighs more than 1 kg of feathers.
But it does! Just drop them, the lead weight will hit the ground first - PROVING it weighs more!

>>140292052
Russians hacked global warming.

I wonder what a 100mt Casaba howitzer would do.

>>140292355
What if it caused an endless stream of niggers to rush your house?

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>>140288030
you are very retarded.

>>140290647
Still doesn't make sense. What you really meant was that there's a upper blast yield limit to them when H-bombs can theoretically deliver an unlimited power provided they have enough material. You're thinking blast to yield ratio. This guy wrote about it

>http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2013/12/23/kilotons-per-kilogram/

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>>140292128

>>140288995
The rapture?

>>140291392
>will go stand in corner now senpai
No need as I just claimed another apustaja for my collection

>>140285777

>Neight plus Mumm

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>>140285777

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>>140286440
I wonder where George Lucas got the idea of the Death Star?

>>140292581
Hydrogen bombs are more powerful is what I was trying to say but failed. Miserably.
>>140292687
I'm not doing a very good job at communicating today.

>>140292687
Upper blast yield with A-bombs, obviously *

Very simply put, an H-bomb is just a regular A-bomb that's needed to make another, bigger bomb go off (hydrogen)

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>>140286440
this seems plausible

>>140284819
Oh shit - I LOL'd for real at OP

>>140285304
Hire Hillary Clinton as Mayor and watch it happen.

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>>140285843
this explains hollow earth
uyo just made my night

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>>140294919

fucking kek

possible

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>>140294919
lmao

>>140286440
Would be really fucking sweet if true.

Also, thanks Moon Men for orbiting us, your tidal forces help keep the core molten with that constant tension/compression friction.

>>140285307
How can you joke about killing people?

>>140297784
Tidal forces get way too little appreciation for all they do.

>>140298697
Damn rights they do. I say "Thanks Moon" every time I spot it up there, it's tradition any more.

However, one downside is that the same forces that aid us, is also slowing earths rotation.. since UNIX time started, we've lost approximately 5 seconds (or conversely, the 24h clock would be 24:00:05 every day) since 1970.

>>140299253
I'm willing to have a day that's a few fractions of a second longer in exchange for planetary stability.

>inb4 some archivist 100M years from now bitches about Earth being tidally locked

>>140284819

nuclear weapons don't exist.

all explosion test videos are either cgi or faked with conventional weaponary.

japan government saw no future and agreed with the us to surrender but they needed to convince very patriotic japanese people to surrender. so they piled tons of tnts up to the ground and detonated. this is why nothing evaporated at ground zero.

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>>140298191

>>140304533
i believe some really tinfoil stuff but my dads uncle seen nuclear tests. it is a very real thing anon, its spooky

>>140285575
Hiroshima was kilotons dummy

>>140304771
My grandfather got to see the flash from the trinity test when he was lying awake one night. Pretty neat.

He said it was like the whole sky turned in to daytime.

>>140304771

1. old men like telling great stories.
2. or maybe he was fooled too by fake explosion.

there is no actual science behind explosive nuclear reaction.

>>140284819
huge parts of Kazakhstan are still fucked from the czar bomba and that was only 50 megatons.

>>140305099

there was a webm around here from chemical factory explosion in china couple years ago.

whole sky to the horizon turned into completely white even causing people temporary blind for seconds.

any big explosion can do that.

>>140305419
Yup. He was deployed a quite a distance from the site at the time and just happened to be there when it happened with no knowledge at the time. We was like
>what the absolute fuck?

What was it really? Who knows, but the story lines up.

>>140305396

oh man. who am I talking to ...

tszar bomb claimed to be tested near north pole island. thousands of kilometers away from kazakhstan. there is even a big hole on the ground on that island. you can see on google earth.

>>140285304
Leave Las Vegas alone. Where will everyone go to relax after the world is a wasteland. We need Mr. House.

>>140286013
I dont think ive ever actually seen the original gif. It looks strange to me now.

>>140285304
>he dosen't know about Mr. House's defense system

>>140284819
The asteroid impact believed to have killed the dinosaurs released energy estimated over 100 trillion tons of tnt. More than a billion times the Nagasaki bomb released so I want to say no.

>>140284819
Is a 100 megaton thermo nuclear explosion bad? Yes. If you are within range it will suck the paint off your house and give your family a permanent orange afro.

It is impossible to "blow up" the Earth.
It would take a dynamite pile the size of Earth, to blow up Earth.

You can however scorch and kill everything on the surface.

>>140306900
Also the asteroid is a far greater threat than North Korea but you don't see much money being spent on preventing that.

WELCOME TO ERFF

>>140284819
Not for an aging Chinese device detonated in NK's test facility to give the "appearance" that fat boy has developed these weapons. Want to see the isotope analysis to see where the products were enriched. My money is on China. They are not our friends. They are not cooperating. Quite the opposite.

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>>140306163
>He didn't play the worst Fallout game

Yep, you got me there

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>>140305758
See >>140286406

Idiot thinks that 100 megaton nuke would be effective being as though at 30 megatons the blast radius is at peak destruction and the radioactive plume would just rise into space and thus fallout would not be an issue.

>>140284819

>Warhead is too big to fit on an ICBM, has to be carried via bomber
>Bomber can't escape blast radius, dropping a 100 megaton nuke is a suicide mission
>Massive overkill on any conceivable target short of an alien invasion
>ICBM with MIRV can hit multiple targets with enough firepower to glass entire armies, military bases, cities, etc.
>Bomber with conventional nukes can hit multiple targets and survive to return to base
>Efficiency of Tsar bomb is limited because it hits the edge of the atmosphere, flattens out, and most of its yield isn't directed into the target
>Fission-fusion-fission detonation is inefficient, bomb is much more massive than it would be for a more practical yield
>Russia and US have dismantled nearly all of their nukes in the 1+ megaton range in favor of nukes in the ~100-155 kiloton range for the biggest warheads in their arsenal, partly so they can pack more warheads into a single missile to hit multiple targets simultaneously and partly because precision guided munitions and the size/hardness of the target doesn't require a more powerful nuke
>Megaton yield warheads were mostly used to compensate for poor accuracy of early missiles; the bigger the boom, the more you could forgive inaccuracies in hitting the target;modern precision munitions means you only need a big enough yield to destroy the target with a direct hit
>Literally the only reason the Tsar bomb existed was to prove it could be done in a pointless dick-waving contest

I would rather have 100 1MT bombs than 1 100MB bomb.

>>140284819
such large bomb arent used anymore since most of their energy is wasted (radiated into space). thats why modern doctrines favor a higher number of smaller but more efficient bombs.

>>140313790
Who cares. We should just go back to using big ones anyway. It's not like they're cost-prohibitive.