Just a reminder that Nazis, Feminists, and Communists are around

>>140179732
everything is the same

nothing is different

gerry "what's an aleppo?" johnson 2024

>>140179831
There different, but deep down they share similar problems.

>>140179732
>I came from r/theredpill and I don't know what National Socialism is

Dumb and inaccurate. Communism focuses on class, not race. Also, 100 million+ deaths as a result of Communism and 6 million supposed deaths as a result of National Socialism.
S u b v e r s i o n.

>>140180614
Socialism. It fixes a few major issues but it still is socialism, and very authoritarian.

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>>140179732
>Nazis sperg out and attack everyone around them
>Commies implement a system that leads to massive starvation and poverty
>Feminists change the culture until the family and birth rates of civilization are completely dead
I swear at the rate society keeps accepting cancerous ideologies I don't know if we'll survive the next millennium.

same ideology different colour

>>140179732

One correctly identifies a huge problem in our society though.

...140179732
If I had to chose between the 3 it would be an easy choice.
This is divide and conquer BS so I saged.

>>140181792
>Divide and Conquer BS. No its not, you Nazi faggots are equally as bad as antifa and need to be gassed.

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>>140179732
Anarcho-Capitalism is a meme-tier ideology and is equally unachievable.

In an AnCap society how would people defend against a more well-armed and aggressive state?

>>140181947
>can't even greentext properly
Just get out, your efforts are transparent.

>>140181947
Im anCap. But I know that NatSoc isnt the 3rd reich so I dont bring my cognitive bias to the discussion.

>>140182349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNgNBsCI4EA

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>>140182830
>I can't support my ideology with logic and reason so I'll just post meme videos
wew lad

>>140183040
Your missing the point. I can use what ever weapon I want/make/buy.

If it means useing Tsar Bombas then so be it.

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>>140183040
It was a meme question.

>In an AnCap society how would people defend against a more well-armed and aggressive state?
How would ANY society defend against a better armed and aggressive state?

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>>140183461
How are you going defend against an entire nation dedicated to the occupation of your land?

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>>140183529
By conscripting the local population into an army, training the army and dedicating resources to building up said army. Any ideology is a thousand times better equipped to deal with an aggressive state than AnCap.

>>140183553
Kill them all. There citizens are paying for the state to take my land, so they must die to.

Sorry if this sounds silly but I am getting tired and can't think clearly right now. I need to go to sleep soon.

>>140180859
>very authoritarian
>a bad thing

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>>140183885
Are you baiting? How are you on your own without a state to defend you going to take on an entire nation, with thousands of soldiers with only your McPistol™

>>140184134
Yes, I believe we need to be allowed to make our own decisions. The ability to make rational decisions combined with evolution will breed people into overtime becoming independent, self sustaining conservatives. Where over time traits like intelligence, beauty, and health will be prioritized as we continue to evolve, as long as we are allowed to.

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>>140179732
bump

>>140184331
Mc VX Gas

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>>140179732

Go back to your twitter goober gobbler videogame "journalism" war

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>>140179732
Factually wrong:

>Daniel Goldhagen argues that 20th century Communist regimes "have killed more people than any other regime type."[52] Other scholars in the fields of Communist studies and genocide studies, such as Steven Rosefielde, Benjamin Valentino, and R.J. Rummel, have come to similar conclusions.[2][26][53] Rosefielde states that it is possible the "Red Holocaust" killed more non-combatants than "Ha Shoah" and "Japan's Asian holocaust" combined, and "was at least as heinous, given the singularity of Hitler's genocide." Rosefielde also notes that "while it is fashionable to mitigate the Red Holocaust by observing that capitalism killed millions of colonials in the twentieth century, primarily through man-made famines, no inventory of such felonious negligent homicides comes close to the Red Holocaust total."[53]

That clearly is not "equally as bad" at all.

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>>140184493
That's literally not an argument, you're a lefty baiting /pol/ aren't you? If you actually believed in Anarcho-Capitalism you'd have a well-researched argument beyong posting memes

>>140184586
hitler killed hitler, he's a hero

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>>140183829
>By conscripting the local population into an army, training the army and dedicating resources to building up said army.
The free market would achieve the same results. Once a foreign power puts effort into conquering their neighbors, they create demand for protection in those neighboring countries.

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However Natsoc has those A E S T H E T I C S when it comes to uniforms desu so they edge the others out as being more appealing but just barely.

>>140184361
That's literally not happening, nor will it happen.

Had you ever taken a basic biology course, you'd realize just how long a process evolution actually is. It's not something you can do in a few generations, and it's certainly not something you can do quickly enough to incur the social consequences (and inevitable Leftwing backlash) that such a proposition would produce.

We need hierarchy and order. The problem with the modern world isn't too little freedom, it's too much freedom. We've "liberated" men from the supposed tyrannies of governments and churches, and shackled them to the tyranny of their most base impulses.

Civilization itself occurs when regulations are placed upon human behavior. Take sexuality for example, that's something that needs to be strictly regulated. A Oxford-educated Anthropologist, J.D. Unwin, found in a civilizational study, that sexual liberation was followed every time by outright societal collapse or significant societal waning.

We don't get better people with more freedom, we get a worse society.

>>140184820
if the state is abolished in anarchism, what's to stop another fucking group to just seize power and establish a government? this is why ideologically crafted utopias are retarded

>>140179732
They all also breathe air. Fuck air.

I'm fascist, but not NatSoc.

>>140184820
Sure, but even well trained Mercenaries just can't compete with a state-governed army. A state can put hundreds of thousands of people, potentially millions into their army while Mercenaries can't even put a dent in that number.

>neighboring countries.
What do you mean? AnCap advocates elimination of the nation state.

>>140179732

>thinks people should be judged on innate characteristics, such as gender.
>so I guess anyone advocating for traditional gender roles are also like feminists?

wft? I'm a feminist nau

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>>140184666
No i am not a fucking commie. I am starting to get tired.

Honestly the best way to stop a country invading you is to use nukes or other weapons of mass destruction.

The way to transition to a Libertarian/Miniarchy/Ancap society would result in most states that still exist ending up like Hong Kong where they rely mainly on being a valuable market rather than a military super power.

>Had you ever taken a basic biology course,
Yes
>you'd realize just how long a process evolution actually is.
for speciation it is long, but for culture and society and markets it is quick as hell. Just look at the generational differences between the Boomers, Xers, Millennials, Gen-Z. We still our the same species but our values have evolved.

>Civilization itself occurs when regulations are placed upon human behavior. Take sexuality for example, that's something that needs to be strictly regulated. A Oxford-educated Anthropologist, J.D. Unwin, found in a civilizational study, that sexual liberation was followed every time by outright societal collapse or significant societal waning.
Don''t you realize that the invidivuals who abuse the sexual liberation and go trans/fuck everything/be gay likely will either die of multiple STDs or not have a child. Easily in one generation this would be mostly breed out of a society.

You are really underestimating man if you believe we need another man to tell us that it is wrong to fuck another man in the ass, as if the majority of us weren't smart enough to realize that ourselves.

>>140185398
why are you a fascist

>>140185611

So basically being an atomized individual in the face of a growing collective of people cooperating to further some goal is like bringing a sword and board to a hydra fight? No wonder Jewish nepotism was so successful in America. Thanks for activating my almonds!

>>140180242

The thing is, is that when you make vague enough statements, anything can be like something else.

If I say a horse is just like an airplane, because they are both things that transport people, I'm clearly being misleading. There are fundamental and describable differences between the two, that are blatantly obvious, even to a fucking retard.

>>140185776

A better question would've been "what's the difference?"

>>140180806
good goy. a schekel for remebering the 6 million.

>>140180859
The Nazis are called national socialists because that is what the party was called BEFORE hitler came and changed everything. Hitler wanted to rename the party the "social revolutionists", but went with the old name because people in the party were nostalgic.

>>140185974
Nazism fixes a few problems with communism and social democracy.
>Allowing a Market to exist
>Construction of useful infrastructure projects since these have lower opportunity costs for governments to do instead of other things.
>Closed Boarders prevents having many welfare leeches.
>Gov. makes you get a job instead of dragging into 20 trillion in debt.

Its not the best system, but if you where to take the ethno-nationalism out of it, it would actually better than allot of systems today. But at the end of the day it still is a second rate system that is still essentially an authoritarian welfare state, with a new problem being that it is more pro-corporatist that the United States and China are today.

>>140181123
Feminism and communism are done by the exact same people. Don't even try to deny this. Also, there is a huge difference between the stated goals of those movements and the actual goals. Which is to remove european aristocracy from power and replace it with Jewish leaders. Which has succesfully been done.

>>140184331
See, a sufficiently wealthy ancap isn't limited to a McPistol
A smart ancap would own a McMinuteman nuke or at least a McBomber
Insufficiently wealthy ancaps will still have a rifle and they would most likely form a temporary, voluntary, contractually obligated militia with their neighbors and start a guerrilla war with the invading force
The same way that basically every small, defending army has ever fended off a larger, invading army

>>140186438
>ethno-nationalism
>bad

Are you the Anti-SJW libertarian tripfag?

>>140185642
I'm not sure what you're talking about anon, it looks like you just copy and pasted an entire conversation that I wasn't a part of.

>Honestly the best way to stop a country invading you is to use nukes or other weapons of mass destruction
Wouldn't some people determine that by having a nuclear weapon it's violating the non-aggression principle? Your neighbours probably wouldn't like the fact that you're building nukes. You're also assuming that every AnCap society would be rich enough to have nuclear weapons. Are you saying that if an AnCap society DOESN'T have nuclear weapons it's fucked six ways to sunday?

>>140185642
>Don''t you realize that the invidivuals who abuse the sexual liberation and go trans/fuck everything/be gay likely will either die of multiple STDs or not have a child. Easily in one generation this would be mostly breed out of a society.
No, degeneracy will still continue even if there's no state. The idea that everything will revert to classic conservative values without a state because of STDs is fucking stupid.

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>>140179732
at least Nazis and Feminists don't intentionally delay subs like faggots

>>140186700
anarchy is a childish concept

>>140186597
>ouldn't some people determine that by having a nuclear weapon it's violating the non-aggression principle?
No, You could use nukes to build reservoirs or for mining. And besides not all nukes have the same magnitude. There are plenty of smaller nukes that could basically be the equivalent of 3 fuel trucks igniting.

>>140186573
No, you can tell because that sperg would HAVE EVERYTHING IN CAPS WITH MANY INSULTS YOU FUCKING COLLECTIVIST ETHNO NATIONALIST SCUM! Additionally, he only uses that name so everyone can recognize him.

>>140186536
>The same way that basically every small, defending army has ever fended off a larger, invading army
Give some examples that didn't have the backing of rich developed nations funding them with weapons.

>>140186878
Okay, now address the other points.

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>>140179732
SAGE

>>140179732
>Thinks the Jews control evertyhing
>Thinks the Capitalist class control everything
HMMMMMMmm....

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>>140186795
I'm not even opposed to Libertarianism or Minarchism since those are actually feasible for a nation to do. It's anarchism that I find completely and utterly retarded.

>>140186700
The idea is that they will die off and there behavior will end with them, and die faster than it spreads. This new idea of sexual liberation that we need to challenge gender boundries and become a soyboy is nothing more than a combination of government education and BPA poisoning.

>>140186981
You're also assuming that every AnCap society would be rich enough to have nuclear weapons.
No, but i am assuming the capitalist societies tend to be wealthier and have higher upward mobility.
>Are you saying that if an AnCap society DOESN'T have nuclear weapons it's fucked six ways to sunday?
No, but it depends on how outside forces feel, if there is an outside imperalist force that wants to invade for some invalid reason. Then they could be fucked. But the idea for anarcho capitalism is a transition process where the whole world gradually over the course off 50-200 some years weakens there governments and move towards being market based miniarchies that really don't have the power to do war or invade, making the risk of a state or some tribe invading you less of an issue.

>>140186438

> the best system
> better than allot of systems today
>a second rate system

Please share more of your opinions. It's really a fantastic argument.

>>140179732
Fuck off d&c shill.

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>>140179732
>jews literally in control of everything
>wow nazis are so phobic, why do they think jews control everything

Following any ideology that takes away peoples right is automatically shit. I really hope you guys arent really fascists and communists in real life. But if you are please neck yourselves for the good of the country.

>>140187398
Thats it. I don't have any more arguments to say it is better than other systems. and I did not say it was the best system you slanderous liar, kill your self.

. The only reason why it is preferable to other systems today is because there are so many shitty systems out there. Its like saying this Piece of shit is better because it smells less than the one over there, but at the end of the day you still have two shitty systems.

Anyways i am fukcing tired and need to go to bed.

>>140179732
Feminism is just a leg of communism. Nazism is better than Communism because instead of killing all the competent people they just want to kill all the minorities, which in the case of the Third Reich were Ashkenazi Jews who have high IQs, but in the case of the West it's mostly low IQ people.

Also, there's very, very few people, who associate with the Alt-Right or /pol/, who actually support socialism or killing anyone. They're just white people who like LARPing as a people who fought for the white race. The other arguments can come afterwards.

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>>140187284
>But the idea for anarcho capitalism is a transition process
It's literally a fantasy-land idea that's not realistically achievable. Just look at communism, which was also a "transition process" from socialism to communism.

Your entire ideology is fucking stupid, and it relies on everything working out perfectly and acting in the exact way you want.

>>140179831
They are all fundamentally authoritarian shitters.

You can pull your bullshit "enlightened centrist" strawman all you want but at the end of the day authoritarians and collectivists are all shitters who deserve to fuck right off.

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>>140187775
There transition process meant building the most authroitarian state ever created. Plus the way resoucres are consumed in a communist society completely ignore the economic question. "How to satisfy our unlimited needs and wants with our SCARCE RESOURCES".

Also when I said Nazism is slightly better than smelly shit. See pic related. See how it is ultra low in the brainlet tier. Well there are ideologies that are in the "no-brain" tier.

>>140185935

I'd say that my point was more that collectivism is the root body from which the ideological heads of a hydra take form, but your point was also good.

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>>140188455
Again, you're ignoring the most important part.
Your ENTIRE ideology is based around everyone thinking in the same exact way as you do over the course of decades. Or even hundreds of years. Do you seriously think that nobody will change their ideology over 100-200 years? Or that everything will continue hunky-fucking-dory for decades.

You'll have to wipe out opposing ideologies and clean the slate of all religion (because with religion comes fanaticism and with that comes differing ideologies) Your entire ideology is basically Utopian thinking. It'd be okay if you weren't pretending that it was a viable alternative to socialism or nationalism.

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>>140179732
you're right dude. we should all just forget race and work together as individuals.