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What's /pol/'s interactions like with small souled

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What's /pol/'s interactions like with small souled bugmen? The term has been making its way around alt-right circles lately, haven't really seen it here. From MPC:

>"small-souled bugman" implies that the person has been cut off from their cultural roots, and totally subsumed into consumerist neoliberal hive. they are totally lack any sort of sympathy for their ancestors folkways, higher spirituality, or passion. if they do engage in activities that are somewhat human, they still are heavily tinged by global capitalism. if they are a sportsfan, they will participate heavily in fantasy sports(which is obsessed with statistics, 'scientific' analysis of performance). if they exercise, it will be all cardio, and tracked by fitbit and then uploaded to faceberg. tastes in food, art, music, movies are predetermined by review aggregator sites like yelp, metacritic or rotten tomatoes. political views only appeal to them if they seem 'rational,' and derived from the sort of conventional wisdom, economics influenced worldview seen in works like 'moneyball', nate silver's 538 blog, and 'freakonomics.'

>more characteristics of bugmen: probably works in a fortune 500 corporate environment, at least has bachelors from decent flagship university, is the type of person that would buy amazon echo and still use it after a month, talks regularly about netflix and prestige cable shows like game of thrones to 'break the ice,' member of at least one subscription service like blue apron or birchbox, has strong opinions on craft beer. they engage in artisinal manhood where masculinity is defined by consumer choices(only SINGLE BLEND scotch whiskey, cigars, vintage safety razors.) think of obama on the few occasions when he would 'present masculine'(e.g. when he would go on ESPN to banter with sportscenter hosts about his march madness bracket.) an impenetrable milquetoast fuckwit who is totally empty once you remove the sum-total of his consumer choices, social signalling.
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Reddit is basically the hive of these bugmen.
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>>140154172
You can generally tell when someone is a nu-male/bugman just by looking at them and the way they talk
I avoid these people at all costs
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They're just the 2017 version of hipsters.
They buy shit "marketed to millennials" to prove to themselves how millennial they are
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>>140154803
Bugmen are a little different from hipsters imo, though they have overlapping traits. Hipsters are desperately searching for an identity through "authenticity." Bugmen couldn't be fucked to seek out identity. And bugmen are far more common imo.
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>>140154172
I can't take people like this seriously
I know of no one who ISNT like this these days, and not even just in my late 20s age group
Humanity has lost its collective soul, I'm pretty much convinced at this point, at least we have a funny name for these people
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>>140155051
>Bugmen couldn't be fucked to seek out identity.
It's just because post-modernist iconoclasm and ennui is hip right now. Doesn't help that shit like Rick & Morty is spoon-feeding it to unquestioning retards.

>dude life is meaningless, nothing means anything, so let's just treat everything like it's a joke, unless it offends us, then act like it's another holocaust
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>>140155477
>hip right now
It's always been hip to be a pompous, pseudo-intellectual ass, I think what OP points out that's the most frightening is that these "big men" often pursue traditional hobbies, but the hobbies themselves have been wiped clean of any cultural mores because they are passé
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>>140155360
I know. The only guys I know who aren't like this are people I met through the alt-right. Maybe it's just pic related (drawn by one of the king bugmen), but I don't think so. I was prompted to post this thread based on another thread about a guy who was sick of dealing with his friends who all bought into the muh russia narrative. And the normie right's just as bad ("Yes, Trump bombed Syria finally a president with BAWLS!"). So depressing.
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So a Bugman is a slightly more normie variant of a nu-male or beta male.
Why 'Bug' though? is it a play on us being 'frogs' (pepe) and them being the bug we eat?
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>>140154172
bugman is just a more accurate title for nu males
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>>140155981
because they are insectoid in their conformity and mental subservience to the media/current consumerist trends
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>>140154172

So bugman = modern yuppie?

Got it.
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>>140155981
>Why 'Bug' though?
Hivemind. Often wirey or weak physiology.
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>>140156191
numale to me implies a lack of masculinity, while bugman implies a lack of soul. at least that's how i see it
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>>140155477
bugmen aren't simply nihilistic, they have values which include social equality and progressivism
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>>140155928
>>140155928
maybe it's your pic to a degree, but I think there's something larger going on here
I have two friends who are getting married. the biggest day of their life- they should feel great feel scared feel something, but everytime I see them we talk about TV and videogames, and watch TV and video games
people are so used to not being sincere because that's lame that sincerity itself is a foreign concept
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>>140155879
Yeah, I'm shit at verbalizing my thoughts sometimes, but like I said, there's this aloof attitude they have like everything they do is a joke with 14 layers of irony.
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>>140156300
I don't know that they actually believe those things. These people NIMBY pretty fucking quickly. Look up Samantha Bee and Jason Jones' campaign against bussing in niglets into their schools. It's all about social signaling, nothing more. That actually makes me optimistic about the future -- once things swing in our direction, the bugmen will follow for social status.
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>>140155051

I feel that the bugman's identity would be forged around whatever would garner the most "likes" on social media
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>>140154172
>he still uses amazon echo

I would have thought you would need to be a bugman to even know what amazon echo is
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>>140154447

I always thought it was in the way they stand. How can they put their legs that close together. it's uncomfy as fuck
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>>140156613
Right, just like the ants follow the colony. That doesn't make an identity, just a hive. Hence bugmen.
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>>140154172

yeah you keep going this way alt-lite, slowly becoming the cringeworthy fedoras of this internet era writing all that shit

I bet whoever wrote that is a Lauren (or whatever is the peev fav rn) obsessed manlet retard projecting his jealousy for being a failure at life
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>>140156465
alot of 'friends' these days are just incidental acquaintances, people you've met somewhere along the line. I've been lucky enough to have known my best friend for 15+ years, so i can be sincere if i want to. but even he is low IQ, which it makes it difficult.
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>>140156193
so they're chinks but not chinks? neat.
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>>140156700
Yeah I thought the same. buying an echo or an iwatch is pretty much a bugman guarantee.
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Pman is mad because he doesn't work for a fortune 500 company and no one would ever need to hire him to work for one because he couldn't offer them anything.
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>>140156278
both are denatured. i think the difference is bugmen are more consciously embracing their embodiment, numales may have not been aware of what they had lost, or even the alternatives to numaledom.
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>>140154172
The virgin bugman vs the Chad nationalist
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>>140156860
I work for a top ten law firm. I'm surrounded by these people. It's a SWPL class phenomenom, as shown by the description of focus on things like 538.
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>>140156929
the virgin nazi vs. the Chad monarchist
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>>140156904
>don't even know what they had lost

reminds of this faceberg tweet

https://twitter.com/weimerica/status/891358793895825409
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>>140156610
i don't think politics is effective against bugmen because consumerism is still pervasive
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>>140155928
>I met through the alt-right
How the fuck do you even do that? We're tiny and if you travel in circles of any value exposing your true self is dangerous.
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>>140158330
Now it's impossible, recruiting shut off after chilled. a year ago there were outreach efforts you just had to be vetted. We have about 50 guys in my metro (and there's other groups), with varying degrees of indirect ties to all the major groups.
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>>140154172
It's single MALT Scotch WHISKY you fucking plebe. Your Celtic ancestors are laughing at your ignorance. NOW whose cutoff from their folkways?
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>>140158564
After cville *
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>>140158564
I assume you're talking about IE. They aren't the only group out there though. There is a pretty clear need for some other form of congregation.
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>>140158600
>i get offended when people get my favorite consumer products wrong
bugman detected
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>>140159302
Nope, not in IE but considering it and know people in it. My group isn't an officially affiliated group, mix of guys from TRS, Twitter and /pol/. No organization or labels, just some like minded guys
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>>140154172

I'm a Gen X metrosexual and these people disgust me. Fortune 100. Sports bore the shit out of me. Sometimes buy a tin of Dapper Dan-ish stuff. Hate "masculinity as a fashion accessory" hipster shit usually. Eschew drugs and (generally) alch.

Lift AND cardio but considering a fitbit to track easier w/app. Deleted all social media and discourage my wife from it (lol). Gritting my teeth through the final SJW infected stages of GoT out of allegiance to the novels I read so long ago.

I haven't met any of these cretins, might have a few years back when I was out to normie bars but they're too vapid to actually speak to usually. If I want MSM opinion I can just read CNN or Huffpo or talk to some lonely feminazi on Tinder and what not instead, not that I would since I've been married a while now but at least they'd have some spark in them to fight me back instead of the bleating of a socially castrated numale.
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Normies definitely exist.

But, this reads more like the delusional ramblings of some ugly virgin fedora.
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>>140159717
>I haven't met any of these cretins,
Bro you just wrote a blog about your consumer habits as your identity. You are these cretins.
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>>140159717
Your post legitimately makes me want to kill myself. Holy fuck.
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>>140160753
You've heard of boomer posting, now check out Gen-X posting!
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>>140159554
Well I envy you your community then. There is nothing more soul crushing then lying about being a shitlib.
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You mean nearly every western-born male from the ages of 20-40? These are the people that are destroying the west because they have no attachment to their ancestors, soil, or blood. They have been rooted from everything that matters by the Jews, and now they wander from socially-approved good or entertainment, searching for some type of approval.

I meet many of them in my day-to-day life. They are often upper middle class with good jobs and pretty wives/girlfriends. They ignore the swarming amount of 3rd worlders and the vanishing Europeans to drink single malts, micro brews while talking about Game of Thrones. If you do bring up anything political, they'll mumble something about rule of law, and move on to their next trip to Vegas.

It's pathetic.
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>>140161324
I used to be one myself, and I look back on that life with a combination of disgust, hate, and rage. Disgust at how easily I was duped. Hate at myself and what I said, thought, and believed. And rage at the Jews who, since I was young, flooded me with propaganda designed to turn me into a feminized, neutered faggot, with no sense of honour or belief. The Jews have taken the only things that matters in a man's life: his blood and his soil. Any western man that isn't seething with rage is a puss-whipped faggot that deserves the rope.
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>>140154172
I go to a private liberal arts school, and that explains 80%+ of my student body. I am pretty introverted, but still able to socialize normally. Whenever I go on campus, I completely understand why the West is fucked.
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>>140161816
>Any western man that isn't seething with rage is a puss-whipped faggot that deserves the rope.
Wew lad, I never thought I'd see a Leaf I want to drink whiskey with.
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>>140159717
lmao this should be pasta desu
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>>140155879
Just sounds like hipsters to me. All about branding, culture or personality as a consumer good. Ultimate posers, hollow soulless husks.
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>>140161324
Yup. Honestly most people I know in that age bracket are like that. My sister married one of them. Upper middle class, works in finance, loves most HBO shows, really into Game of Thrones, is picky about beer, listens to mainstream media and takes everything said from them as fact (unless it's from a right wing source), as if unable to form an opinion of his own, and recently came back from Vegas.

He's ok to talk to if I wanna waste a bit of time with an absolutely meaningless conversation. But theres just nothing...there. Like he has zero convictions about anything that's actually important to society. But he'll take you through hell and back if you start shit talking his fav hockey team.
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>>140154172
Something along this lines.
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>>140154172
you forgot
>likely to be working and earning well, with a chance to attain status
>>140161816
>blood and soil
you're a directionless joke looking to the past and finding extinct things and losers. If you blame the Jews for everything then you have to be looking forward, because that gay nazi shit failed so hard it cannot come back except in larp form.
Seriously, drop all the nordic cosplay and love of villain uniforms, it ill-dignifies the things you claim to cherish.
>blood and soil
cool, go back to europe
a nazi leaf, holy shit.
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>>140154172
>person has been cut off from their cultural roots
ah you're one of those nazi pierce followers aren't you? fucking dumbass.

culture? what the hell are you talking about? We are animals. We are apes. We don't have culture, everything is fake.
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>>140155981
I thought it was "bug" because the implication that these men are "pozzed". literally and metaphorically.
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>>140163779
kill yourself
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>>140154172
Thing that kills me about these people is they will talk shit about capitalism when it is their lifeblood, like even moreso than it is for your average dopey consumer. They also want open borders / third world demographics while totally oblivious to the fact that hordes of toilet people = no more artisanal bullshit lifestyle.
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>>140161816
>Jews destroyed the West
Whites played just as much of a role, if not more than Jews did. Blaming everything on a boogyman is what less advanced groups do.
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>>140156772
>lauren
Come on, man, at least make it plausible and use Sarah the national socialist(nazi-chan) or something.
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ISN'T IT FUNNY how the commie cucks are always the most consumerist neoliberal units you could meet?
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I've been hoping this term would make its way from MPC to /pol/. It narrows down the average Western Millennial male's behavior better than the more amorphous term "nu-male."

Bugmen are fucking EVERYWHERE in America (and Europe too, I'm sure). The most startling thing about them is how often you can guess one just from the look of his face. Physiognomy is absolutely real.

Look at any of those blue checkmark retards who reply to Trump's tweets and you can instantly see examples of peak bugman. Pic related.
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>>140164629
They all make the same expressions in pictures. I guess they've seen them in movie posters or something and think that's what you're supposed to do in pictures. It reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytnFVbdlaSo
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>>140154172
fuken bugmen gtfo my planet pls
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>>140165065
>I guess they've seen them in movie posters or something and think that's what you're supposed to do in pictures

Yeah, there's nothing genuine about these guys. Everything about their identity was sold to them, whether they realize it or not.

The physiognomy thing really gets to me though. It's gotten to a point where you can look at some dude and guess his political beliefs with shocking accuracy. I mean, it's been established for some time now that soft men with baby faces tend to be liberal, but once you start looking for it and guessing the political affiliation, the accuracy is creepy.
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>>140157369
Virgin monarchist vs the Chad tribesmen
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>>140154172
This shit is hilarious. I know so many people like this. Can't stand beta cucks.
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>>140164240
This isn't a coincidence. Corporate propaganda and funding has intentionally shifted the Left's primary focus from anti-corporate economics to social justice identity politics. The Left used to be dangerous to corporate profits when it spent its energy supporting labor unions and pro-worker legislation. Social justice politics has been marketed to the Left so well that they now actually *support* pro-corporate policies like third-world immigration because it has been dressed in the guise of social justice.
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>>140165714
I noticed my face change rapidly as the red pill hit, about the time of the Charlie Hebdo massacre. This also coincided with the end of years and years of feeling unsuited to being a man and having no confidence in what makes me me (probably due to growing up exclusively around females).

Physiognomy is real.
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>>140160242
This.
It's so deep in your head you can't see it.
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>>140166496
It's not just beta cucks. Plenty of, e.g., finance guys who are into sports and shit easily qualify as small souled bugmen. Such is the state of jewified deracinated postfeminist society.
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>>140166643
Wait since when were SJWs ever Left of anything?
They are all mean, selfish little shoppers who want to force others to act in certain ways, there's nothing left or fair or justice about them, never was.
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>>140155360
The fucking Bolshevik gets it.
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>>140154172
This is what happens to people once you destroy religion and tradition.
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>>140165714
I've met some serious right wingers with doughy faces and skinny arms. Also gay dudes with Aryan looks built like Tyson.
You cannot judge politics by physique, that's just retarded.
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>>140166654
I think it's the eyes. All the people ive ever met who have been far right always have this focused, determined and angry look in their eyes vs vacant stares
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>>140154172

+1

upvoted and reposted on the 4th Reich secret networks
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theres a lil bugman being oogie food.
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>>140154172
Are there real people like this? I will be honest I am so disconnected from reality and my only source of social interaction are a few people at work and /pol/. It sounds like a terribly hollow existence.
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>>140167300
You say vacant stares but I think this anon has it right, though the difference is subtle.
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>>140155360
>Humanity has lost its collective soul
nah, just all the ones in the quiet suburb you come from.
And that's ok, get out into the poorer parts of the world and you'll see that the human soul is savage, obsessed with sex and status and dignified only by it's ability to co-operate.
Put consumers under the slightest pressure and they start to eat each other, that's what all those zombie movies were about.
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>>140167510
Supplementary material.
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>>140167300
>focused, determined and angry look in their eyes
so do arrogant, resentful losers, just saying.
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>>140154172
>political views only appeal to them if they seem 'rational,' and derived from the sort of conventional wisdom, economics influenced worldview seen in works like 'moneyball', nate silver's 538 blog, and 'freakonomics.'

Yes. Repent against rational thought. The scientific method was invented by cucks to subvert your God given strong-back-alpha-male-natural-instincts and shift wealth to the feeble bodied "experts".

Faggot.
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>>140167817
>appearance over essence
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>be antithesis of a bugman
>try to socialize with peers
>wave of cringe wash over me when I try to even think about GOT, reddit and memey, or whatever these fucking bugmen talk about at the bar
I really don't want to sound like a fucking katana wielding enlightened one, but is this really what it feels like to be sentient? These people are fucking sheep and you're the only one who can see it? It feels like a total outer body experience when I try to script myself to hang out with bugmen.
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>>140167817
>le rational scientific method
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>>140155477
I visited /lit/ once: the post
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>>140167913
>Implying Silver only gave a the "appearance" that trump had a path to the White House.
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>>140168106
Neil "there are more grains of sand in the universe" DeGrasse "than there are borders in our solar system" Tyson
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>>140167971
>they suck
>implying i don't
>lacking self awareness to notice that everybody looks at someone and says they suck
>validating myself at the expense of women, the poor, the old, the young, immigrants, blacks, asians, people from anywhere other than where i live, people who like things i don't
might as well kill yourself now.
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>>140167971
>outer body
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>>140168106
https://samkriss.com/2016/03/14/neil-degrasse-tyson-pedantry-in-space/
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>>140168375
Sounding a lot like a mean, selfish little shopper with no self-awareness who wants to force others to act in certain ways.
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>>140163777
ignore the NEETsocs, the best you can do is redirect these "woke" projecting manchildren to a Jordan Peterson lecture and hope they pick up a book
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>>140155360
The fucking statist gets it.
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>>140167971
Why would you want to hang out with them? Thanks to modern e-readers you can carry hundreds of books in your pocket and be in the company of histories greatest minds. Not that I am a great mind but I like to think I have learned a thing or two by reading instead of trying to fit in and socialize. Besides 4chan is all the social interaction a person needs.
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>>140154172
Does anyone else notice the faggy, lispy voice that you'll hear on NPR , is common with the bugman?
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>>140167689
Losers are either skittish and drop eye contact immediately or hold it for an irregular amount of time.

Was a bouncer part time. All the guy who ever started stupid shit always did one those things when coming in.
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>>140168106
Why does black science man want to destroy all the colors? If you want the rainbow to exist you have to keep the colors separate.
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>>140167971
i know this feel
i know this feel very well
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>>140167172
Of course physiognomy isn't 100% accurate. Nobody is arguing that you can detect a person's politics by physical appearance alone with 100% accuracy. You should research it a bit.
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>>140154172
From MPC

>The Bugman seems related to the Normie. The Freak- tranny freak, Jew Freak, Law school professor freak- do not, IMO, qualify as bugmen because they have a Thing. Even if their identity is freakish and evil, it is still something believing to them.

A Normie is someone who doesnt see beyond the Veil of Lies-they often sense something is wrong, but they have no words for it. They often gravitate towards Trump the way people near a chasm in the dark will huddle together-on some subconscious level, they sense the danger, though they cannot say exactly what.

Normies exist in the flow of KikeShit that flows through the culture. They may rebel here and there- at a gay kiss in Beauty and the Beast, for example-but without a root understanding of the structure underlying it, they're easily cowed or silenced.

Bugmen swim in the KikeShit. Its not simply that they're liberals, its that they have no existence outside the boobtube or other controlled identity structures (Use Amazon Fire and Netflix and listen to these bands from Columbias Indie Label, twentysomething hip kid!)

Normies tend to like KikeShit because thats all they get, but they prefer IPAs or Coors or whatever and will still like those things regardless of circumstance. A normie will order coors light at a hipster bar or an IPA at a truck stop. A bugmans entire existence is defined by their surrounding circumstance. They are in tune with the KikeShit like a cockroach senses vibrations.
The bugman is typically not noticeably badlooking, weird, freakish. They dont have radically weird hobbies or portray themselves as tranny ceos.
The bugman is like a bug. It wiggled into its little rotting log and you'll never notice it until you dig.

A dancing spider may be gross, but it stands out, does its dance. A black beetle just burrows into the background ans chews away.
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>>140167611
Sanpaku eyes
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>>140169860
good bugman v normie breakdown. i'm lucky enough to mostly be surrounded by, and related to, normies, not bugmen.
the bugmen sound like a phenomenon you'd find in hip, uni campus cities.
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>>140155879
>It's always been hip to be a pompous, pseudo-intellectual ass
This is true. For generation-x and the oldest millennials, it was hip to be anti-intellectual. It's now back to the way it was, pseuds running wild. This is way worse because pseuds have huge egos.
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>>140154172

This has got to be the most pretentious shit I've ever read. You guys are at /r9k/ levels of fedora tier faggotry.
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>>140169060
YES. alex jones makes fun of this a lot. i used to think NPR was okay (slightly better than most radio garbage and at least not buzzfeed-tier liberal bias)

https://youtu.be/mtY1NFbh0Vc
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>>140155477
This post is unironically just as full of itself as the bugmen
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>>140169860
This is a good breakdown.

I wonder if many MPCers post on /pol/, or vice versa. I read MPC but don't have an account. Maybe I should register and start posting. It's nearly impossible to have worthwhile discussion on /pol/.

>>140170097
Yeah, liberals, especially the women, display sanpaku eyes.
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>>140156700
I had to google it, feels good man. I know bugmen from the sounds of this definition. They are legion among my
generation.
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>>140173222
I think /pol/ is a great rallying point. It's like a main thoroughfare, somewhat generic and lowest common denominator, but a place for /ourguys/.

MPC would definitely be a place for 'depthful' shitposting and I like 7+1 chan as a refuge and the unadulterated discussion of ZOG.

And a guilty pleasure is The Daily Stormer, for all its faults, I read it as satire, like a tabloid of the alt-right. Whatever people think of Anglin or Weev, the fact that TPTB have gone after them so hard to shut them down means they are doing something right.

Anything Jews hate, we should automatically embrace.
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>>140173222
I post fairly regularly and have yet to get the shamecube. It is worth starting a posting career, but you must put a high level of effort into your posts or pman will ban the shit out of you
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>>140177062
I'm a TRS guy so don't really go on MPC. What the hell is their problem with Spencer, TRS, and the "alt right" label? Aren't they woke on the JQ and white nationalism? Is it just internet turfwar tribalism?
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>>140171169
that's stupid and childish and doesn't replicate what an NPR-voice actual sounds like, which follows this precise wave of speaking and a certain pattern of speaking slowly and then speeding up. An actual imitation is a lot funnier because a lot of college educated women (Tier 1's in particular) now speak like this while no one actual articulates it
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This and this exactly. If only MPC, TRS and all the alt right e celebs could just get their shit together and never punch right, we could have a movement.

This is exactly what the left did in the 1960s and what the Jews have been doing for millennia. The Jews always ask "is my opponent a Jew" and then filter the yes or no through a series of simple logic gates.

The end result is that even when Jews disagree on policy or direction, they never destroy each other. Even US capitalist Jews bank rolled Russian commie Jews in 1917. Ideaology means nothing. Power is everything.

If white Europeans don't learn quick, we'll be steam rolled out of existence.
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