>>140096337 Assuming that Hitler started gassing Jews since day 1, that makes for 3,153,600 minutes.
6,000,000 Jews killed during 3,153,600 minutes comes out to 1.9 Jews per minute. That means Hitler killed roughly 1 Jew every 30 seconds. (LOL)
In Auschwitz, the most famous and biggest concentration camp, there are 15 crematoriums. According to Auschwitz survivors, Jews would go into the chamber, gassed for 15-20 minutes, then put into the oven.
It takes 1 hour to cremate a body using modern furnaces which operate at much higher temperatures than the traditional ovens at the camp. However, lets say that the ovens were operating at a level that we see today, that means it would take 1 hour, 20 minutes to gas and burn 15 Jews assuming they were all burned simultaniously. (Disregarding the time it would take for the gas to empty the chamber for the bodies to be transported from the chamber to the oven.) The elevators used to transport bodies were very slow and could only take up 7 bodies at a time with their weight capacity. However, for our greatest ally, we're going to assume that bodies were teleported instantly from chamber to oven.
That means 15 Jews were gassed and burned every 1.2 hours. That comes out to exactly 300 Jews every 24 hours (Assuming the gassing and burning of Jews was happening every hour straight for 6 years on an uninterrupted basis) the total # of killed jews would be 657,000 for those 6 years. The official Jewish story is that 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone.
>>140096337 My thought is that it wasn't planned, its was more of a meme that got out of hand. imagine being hans after ww1 >Dad dead >Family starving >Kids being forced into sex workers >Barely enough food >A veteren comes along by the name of mr Hitler >Makes the country great again >Explains that it was the Jews who have caused this time and time again >Shows the list of how many countries they have been expelled from >Join army and work your way up >Love mr Hitler for what he has done for your people >Get put in charge of guarding The very people that caused so much pain for your family. Do you really think that there wouldn't have been certain camp overseers that wouldn't have been so angry at the Jews that they decided the best thing to do for the world is to kill them all? All you have to do is look up the long list of prisons that treat their inmates terribly.
Biggest redpill is what happened at Majdanek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8
The Majdanek museum cut their death toll from 2 million to just a few tens of thousands, a cut of over 90%.
Although they initially claimed there were 7 gas chambers, 5 of these have been discredited. They now cling to a claim that of 2 gas chambers.
The propaganda surrounding Majdanek was similar to the propaganda around Auschwitz. The fact that the story collapsed there in such a spectacular fashion is a devastating blow to the holocaust narrative.
>>140096709 >>140096572 I mean I agree that the total death toll is almost certainly much less than 6 gorillion, but what about all the prisoners who survived Auschwitz, Majdanek, Dachau etc? If there were really no systematic killings, don't you think at least some of them would come forward and admit the truth, at least to their friends and family?
>>140096709 The holocaust did not only involve concentration camps, but mass killings using guns, and then the bodies chucked into a mass grave, not all burnt and most not actually done at a concentration camp.
>>140099206 If I recall correctly, Night makes no mention of gas chambers. And it accurately points out that botched Red Cross relief efforts caused loads of starving prisoners freshly liberated to die
Seriously though, the massive contradictions about the holocaust are hiding in plain sight. Just look at the biography of Amon göth, the commandant of the camp depicted in Schindlers list. Isnt it strange that Spielberg left out the part where Göth is arrested by the SS and charged with murder and mistreatment of prisoners? Seems strange to me.
Look up Otto Koch, the commandant of Buchenwald, one of most infamous Nazi "Death Camps". He too was inder investigation by the SS, stripped of rank and executed for "dishonoring" the SS. You wanna know why he was executed? For mistreatinng prisoners, indiscriminate orders to kill prisoners, and embezzling stolen Jewish property. Strange, i thought this sort of activity was encouraged by the Nazis....
>>140099610 >Treblinka I am not just talking about in exterminations camps. Long before those were used they would round up a large number of jews, get them to dig a mass grave and line them up, and shot them. This happened all over Nazi occupied Europe. Extermination camps were only created after Himmler noticed the negative effect of the executions by gun shots were having on his men.
>>140100922 Got any proof of the number of bodies found? obviously not counting soldiers killed in fighting, let's be generous and say 5% of the total soviet casualties were from "death camps" that still does not add up
you have to remember that lining them up in from of ditches and doing mass executions was also a favorite method
The thing isn't really whether he was able to kill that many people in that amount of time, it's just where are the bones? Where is the public proof that 6 million people died? You'd think that if there was sufficient proof to say yes they would be ready and eager to show us
>>140102586 I mean all of Europe being destroyed was pretty big indication that ww2 happened. You would just think there'd at least be I don't know, an honorary jewish cemetery where 900,000 jews were allegedly buried, dug up, burned, and reburied. Maybe a memorial, or I don't know, disturbed ground of some sort even?
>>140096337 Judging by how much you retards hate Jews the holocaust makes complete sense, what else would people like you do with that much power you're consumed every day by how much you hate Jews it's fuckig wierd
>>140103258 Presumably the people specifically sent to investigate the camps could find some evidence. They didn't even find disturbed ground, much less just short of a million people's double burial worth
The isolation, persecution, and concentration of jews did happen, in a response to weimar excesses and communist ties, combined with racial paradigms that sought their ethnic cleanse. The fantastical stories of gas chambers and ovens and electric floors and holocoasters and all that? A combination of fetishistic bullshit, oppurtunist guilt trippers and a kabbalah justification for their Israeli state needing ovens and six million as a number.
Regardless of it being true or not, the paranoid fears of jews can't and shouldn't be an excuse for why whites aren't allowed to organize, advocate or promote themselves anymore.
>>140102357 Those are just people who falsely claimed to be victims of the Holocaust. I want to see someone who was actually imprisoned in one of the "extermination" camps coming out and admitting there were no mass killings.
>>140097141 >the actions of an elitist intelligentsia that I became aware of through a Malayan shirt-ironing forum makes me desire the slaughter and genocide of all persons of certain groups including complete civilians and their children, simply on account of their birth condition and regardless of whether they committed the injustices I complain about or not
>>140096337 The key is to stop using the word "holocaust". This is part of the liberal language game. The term only became common in the 1960s. Since holocaust is an umbrella term for any kind of "jewish persecution" anywhere in the world from 1938-1945 there is no sense using it. Holocaust can mean whatever they want it to mean. Only debate an "Intentional Genocide" and "Homicidal Gas Chambers".
Thats because deniers have no actual arguments OR sources. for example, the soccer team in that picture is made up of British POWs, not jewish inmates at the camps who were allowed to form teams. Its a retarded conspiracy theory pushed by neo-nazi groups.
according to the nazis own records, there were 11 million jews in europe at the time. Further proof that deniers know nothing about the holocaust in the first place and are just conspiracy theorist fueled by rumors and paranoia rather than any actual evidence.
>>140106514 Yea idk man I guess ur pretty angry or something but what you just said was entirely without context.. Maybe you're talking about the random infographic that has nothing to do with your trying so hard?
If I had to guess why rabbits would be relevant, I suppose because of the accusations of human hair mattresses and pillowcases and such, but then I'm not gonna defend an unverified infographic
you really do have nothing interesting to say other than this pathetic shucking and jiving because your conspiracy theory you spent 4 youtube videos researching is getting BTFO. Im not going to respond to you again unless you actually articulate a point
>>140107317 You've only addressed points I never made lol.
You responded to some rabbit shit I never said You never covered the whole memes being bad thing You put out some hair invoices as proof of human hair mattresses? You didn't address the whole 'lice infested' part?
I mean I'm making points but you're deliberately strawmanning the few points you learned to counter in your shill class. That's why your responses are forced on some infographic that god knows who posted and some only loosely related information.
>>140096337 OP, the problem is either no one in the camps kept accurate records of just how many people Hitler killed, or the records were destroyed before the Allies could take the camps. So unfortunately, we will likely never know the actually level of atrocity that occurred. It could be as the Jewish claim, it could be as the neo-nazis claim, or it could be somewhere in between, all that is know for sure, is that some amount of Jewish people were murdered by the German Nazis during WWII and the exact numbers are heavily debated.
>>140106386 >because one infographic is misleading the whole thing is false not an argument also, how many of those jews were in nazi occupied lands? according to the link below, there were about 10.4 m in 1904. Some of that seems fishy because it goes from 6 million to 9 million over the span of 9 years at one point. But even given the 11 million number, there were only 2.4 million in Nazi occupied areas at the time. Those numbers match up with these numbers by relative magnitude. So unless their enemies were shipping them jews to gas, it is impossible.
>>140104847 >I want to see someone who was actually imprisoned in one of the "extermination" camps coming out and admitting there were no mass killings.
How can they if they were in extermination camps and there were no reprieves? It's like saying you want see a death row prisoner immediately after execution so you can question him. What's really interesting is that to be classed as a "Holocaust survivor" all you had to do was be a Jew living in Germany between 1933 and 1945. Realistically any kike who lived in Germany for 2 weeks during 1933 is classed as a "Holocaust survivor" even though the Holocaust™ didn't begin until 1941 or 1942. Hence why there's so many "survivors" and also why none of the numbers actually add up.
>>140107989 >>because one infographic is misleading the whole thing is false
considering you guys think one random asshole lying about being at auschwitz is proof that the entirety of the holocaust never happened, this is pretty funny. And yeah, if your basing this soley on the idea that the holocaust never happened because there werent even that many jews in europe in the first place, it means that not only are you wrong, but you are so lazy that you couldnt spend 5 min. doing research on your own to make sure it was true and that you will just believe any bullshit that helps your conspiracy theory without a second thought.
>how many of those jews were in nazi occupied lands?
Why were/are so many lies used to start and then prop up the holocaust? The one that had Jew ashes/fat used to make soap? A lie. The one that had Jew skin use to make lampshades? Turned out to be a lie. The one that had giant electrical mats used to electrocute Jews? A lie. The one that said Bergen-Belsen had homicidal gas chambers? Another lie. The one that had the shrunken Jew heads? Another lie. The one that said steam chambers were used to kill Jews? A lie. The one about conveyor belts used to move Juden onto electrical mats for frying? Another lie. The one that said electrified water vats were used at Belzec? Another lie. The one that said Auschwitz Jews were vaporized? Another Lie.The one that said 4,000,000 Jews were killed at Auschwitz? Turned out to be a lie, since that number dropped to a little over one million, and that included non-Jews, add in the bogus numbers at Madjanek and yet we keep hearing about the sacred 'six million.'
Did it happen on the scale that Israel and modern media want you to believe it did? Probably not.
There's no difference between 6 million and 12 million and 1 million. Once you hit the 1 million mark you've already shown that you're very capable of killing as many people as you want however you want whenever you want and that you will gladly do so.
The inflation of victim numbers is literally just for the purposes of going "OY VEEEEEEEEY LOOK AT ALL DESE CASUALTIES DON'T EVER BE FASCIST AGAIN"
>>140110328 Yea I don't doubt it, starvation and Typhoid was prevalent even among German soldiers. If anything 13k corpses just laying around indicates just how logistically impossible it is to bury millions.
>>140109237 interesting that the numbers you post add up to over 12 million. i guess we need to remember the 18 million jews that were gassed now?
I never implied that when people who disagree with the holocaust narative do it, it is acceptable. It's a logical fallacy on both sides. But it's well known that picture is of a British POW team. So you are strawmanning again.
According to these numbers the, the Jewish population would've had to triple in the span of 40 years, through depressions and wars. Also, USSR doesn't count as "Nazi Occupied". Did you read your own fucking document? The whole thing is about emmigration of jews to different parts of the world. That is another piece of evidence I'm going to use. Thanks.
>>140110458 >starvation and Typhoid was prevalent even among German soldier
the implication that these were just casualties on the same scale as the german army is complete bullshit though anon. Those inmates died of starvation and disease because they were considered subhuman and were deliberately ignored.
>>140110598 >>140110328 all of these points are addressed. the allies bombing supply lines, the disease outbreaks, the horrible conditions at the end of the war that the allies walked into. it still doesn't prove that 6 million jews were gassed and incinerated.
>it has always been 6 millions jews dead It's weird that 6 million just happens to be a special number in Judaism. It's also weird that death toll estimates in the camps can go from 4 million to 1 million and the "6 million" number has never been adjusted.
>>140110917 anon, did you watch the video posted earlier in the thread? people at auschwitz talking about playing soccer and putting on plays and watching movies. and saying that as the war went on, pressure was reduced because supplies were running out
>inb4 selective bias because when someone tells me that germans, who are known for being mild, efficient, and peaceful go out of their way to do these things, i don't believe them without sufficient evidence. 6 million gassed and incinerated should be easy to prove scientifically.
If i told you I leapt over a house you would ask for proof. If i got my friends together and they all agreed I did, it doesn't prove it.
Anon, what are you doing? The guy asked for evidence of mass graves at Bergen Belsen, so I provide them and now you are moving the goalpost in the middle of it and saying that those are all 6 million victims, when I never claimed anything close to that in the first place. This shucking and jiving really does speak volumes for holocaust deniers and how they have nothing to stand on, which is why you always end of resorting to shitposting like this.
>>140110598 It was 6 million before the war too... see the problem here? You have them saying it was ovens, or maybe the showers and delousing chambers were actually evil homicidal gas chambers, and let's not forget the Holocaust rollercoasters and attack dogs and testicle beatings and electrical executions goys. These ebil nazis gassed FOUR GORILLION PEOPLE AT AUSHCWITZ ALONE!!!1!!11
>>140111429 >while ignoring everything else posted anon, you've been btfo. it's okay. 1 mass grave of a couple hundred bodies that the british made doesn't prove 6 million by the germans. where are the rest of the 5,999,734 bodies?
The idea that they desperatly wanted to feed them, but couldnt is complete and utter horseshit based on literally nothing and you know it. If that was the case, then how come there was wide spread starvation on the same scale in the Warsaw Ghetto before any allied bombing campaigns took place? Why were the nazis putting flyers up telling citizens not to feed these starving people or they would be shot? Why did they make something like Aktion 14f13? if the supply lines were beyond repair, then how come the allied liberators of those camps had NO problem shipping in supplies?
>>140111429 And it's been pointed out that those mass graves weren't even dug by the Nazis. But yes, spout buzzwords. Very telling, although maybe your just stupid. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're just dumb and not insincere.
There's a few authors that mention the holocaust is fake but I don't remember them off-hand. A wikipedia page on Holocaust denial should mention some of the theories behind it.
The problem with meeting shills on both sides, is the possibility that it was financed by Frankist Jews which, possibly, be Rotshchild bankers who do have published material about their involvement with the creation of Israel. Since those dudes are rather wealthy, and wealth does equal power in the hearts of men, there's a risk of meeting pro-Israel shills and dirty money.
Plus, people at that level of international involvement tend to piss off a lot of people generationally, so you might run into some gun-runners and terrorists looking for a "way in." So, academically, it's rather scare beyond checking out some of the impetus behind the desire for Israel, namely Shabbetai Zvi and Jacob Frank.
Rothschild was born in Paris, France. At the time of her birth, her mother, Elisabeth Pelletier de Chambure, a French Catholic aristocrat, was not married to her father Philippe de Rothschild, but instead married to Jonkheer Marc de Becker-Rémy, a Belgian nobleman. After a legal skirmish and the Jonkheer's threats to kidnap his wife's child, the Becker-Rémys divorced in 1934. Shortly afterwards, Rothschild's mother and father eventually married that same year in Paris. By 1939, Philippe de Rothschild separated from Elisabeth, who reverted to using her maiden name.
Rothschild had one brother, Charles Henri de Rothschild, who was born in 1938 and died that same year.
When Philippine de Rothschild was ten years old, she witnessed the Gestapo arrest her mother, who later died at Ravensbrück concentration camp, the only known member of the Rothschild family to die during World War II. >only Rothschild to die in the camps was Catholic >Let that sink in
>>140112262 Yknow the point of arguing is to win over other people right? If you say  for an incredibly obvious point that nobody in their right mind would argue with, you don't win anyone over
>>140111692 Yeah, those people weren't gassed, they do look emaciated though. I still don't believe the jewish bullshit. Jews have been outed for being hucksters far too often for me to listen to your nonsense. I don't know what the fuck ashkenazi really even are. Like some slavic chechen mongrels that now pose as jews and tell all sorts of lies. The whole thing is just bizarre. It's not a secret around here that kikes wanted to essentially overthrow the German government. They tried and later got rounded up for being pieces of shit. They've absolutely destroyed the US economy for the sake of their rampant speculation and got bailed out for it. I honestly think much worse is going to happen here in the US though.
>>140112262 I didn't actually read your post beyond citation needed sorry famalam.
But I will stimulate your cranium with a question. Are you aware of how intellectually dishonest it is to say "there were mass graves at Bergen-Belsen" when you know for a fact that the only mass graves were dug by British liberators? Do you see how doing this in a discussion of the Holocaust is... misleading? I hope you do. Now, it would be a lot simpler to agree with the other lolocaust believers and just say "Bergen-Belsen wasn't a death camp reee!!" But you are so desperate to prove that six million people died... so desperate, so thirsty baby. ;)
>>140096337 Stuff like the stories of masturbation machines and being spared the oven because you had a cold make me suspicious. It's probably massively exaggerated, but I'm pretty sure it did happen. I mean, who wouldnt kill kikes if they got the chance and thought it wouldn't have negative consequences?
The fact that you continue to bring up gas all the time shows me how poorly educated you actually are about the holocaust in the first place. I also see people here complain about contantly being beaten over the head with the holocaust, when its clear you have no idea what you are even denying in the first palce
>>140112655 boy you sure like shucking and jiving huh.. evidence toward that point is germany being literally destroyed after wwII. If you're going to contest that point then you've got fingers in your ears and eyes shut
>>140112655 Bruh do we really need to post evidence that the Allies bombed Germany? Fuck man... I guess you must be right. No single person in Germany starved, especially not the prisoners :(( and I guess Fanta was never invented ;)
I don't know why anyone but the most autistic Stormfags denies the killing of Jews. Most Nazis say to read David Irving as a reliable historian who isn't part of the narrative, but Irving never denied the Holocaust happened, he just denies some of the popular narrative such as the Auschwitz story. He himself says that due to Operation Reinhardt, millions of Jews were processed and eliminated by the SS in other camps which were destroyed and hidden later on. He may not believe in the 6 gorillion total, but his accounting isn't all clean and happy either. There's a legitimate question about how much Hitler knew about the whole deal, but at the end of the day, he's the Fuhrer, if whole departments under him were engaging in murder, he's responsible, for being a shit administrator if nothing else.
BTW, all that noise about there being no evidence and the death rates not adding up? You can say that about many of the communist death counts as well. Mao is given an absolutely enormous amount of deaths... Where are the bodies, the camps, the graves, the documents, hell where is the fucking infrastructure for any of it? There's far less evidence for that, yet Stormfags spit out increasingly ridiculous death totals under Mao while insisting the 6 gorillion were treated with kid gloves.
I don't doubt there's a lot of killing all over the place, I don't doubt life under Hitler, Stalin and Mao was probably quite miserable for many, I also don't doubt most of the numbers are inflated and exaggerated for propaganda purposes. How much so depends on how much you value honesty over ideology.
oh look, you once again failed to post this obvious evidence anon. Why is that? If its so obvious, then how come you cant post it? Is it because you know its bullshit, but are just too plugged into your echo chamber conspiracy theory bullshit to admit it?
>>140113087 I don't have any "evidence" that Germany was bombed other than a polandball meme where the map of Dresden is completely colored in red to denote the places where the bombs hit. But that is just a meme and not really stimulating evidence for an intellectual like yourself in sure ;)
"Germans had been killed, roughly 8.26 to 8.86 percent of the population (see also World War II casualties). The country's cities were severely damaged from heavy bombing in the closing chapters of the War and agricultural production was only 35 percent of what it was before the war."
35 percent output means people are starving dipshit. Especially before the actual reconstruction started because still at war
>>140113372 WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT THE REASON THE PEOPLE IN BERGEN BELSEN STARVED TO DEATH IS BECAUSE OF ALLIED BOMBING OF SUPPLY LINES TO THE CAMPS
Its hillarious how you faggots continue to dance around the issue and move back the goal post you yourself set up in the first place because you realize how full of shit you are and realize that you just got called out on it.
>>140113237 Prove it was Nazi neglect specifically. Prove it. And I mean evil Jew hatred neglect and not "we have to choose between feeding the poor orphaned children and the prisoners, sadly the prisoners will starve" neglect, because calling that intentional murder is so far beyond the pale of intellectual dishonesty that it's just offensive buddy. I mean really. Oy Vey
>>140113705 >Prove it was Nazi neglect specifically. Prove it
Oh, so now you are basically admitting you are full of shit and have NOTHING to back up your made up claim and are turning it back around on me to prove my point. Unlike you, I will actually respond to this request rather than dancing around the issue
Nazis had a campaign called Aktion 14f13 where they would go around to the camps, giving medical exams to all the inmates, and then those deemed sick from starvation or disease or overwork ect. where just killed instead of actually treated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_14f13 >Aktion 14f13, was a campaign by Nazi Germany to murder Nazi concentration camp prisoners. Also called invalid or prisoner euthanasia, the campaign culled the sick, elderly and those deemed no longer fit for work, from the rest of the prisoners in a selection process, after which they were killed. The Nazi campaign was in operation from 1941 to 1944 and later covered other groups of concentration camp prisoners.
Also, starvation and disease were widespread in the Warsaw Ghetto before any bombing campaign happened. So the "bombed supply lines" excuse, which isnt even true, doesnt hold up considering the nazis were starving people before any of that shit happened in the first place
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto >The only real means of survival was the smuggling of food and bartering; with men, women and children all taking part in it. Up to 80 percent of food consumed in the Ghetto was brought in illegally.
>Smuggling was often the only source of subsistence for the Ghetto inhabitants, who would otherwise have died of starvation. Unemployment leading to lack of funds was a major problem in the ghetto.
pic related is a flyer warning that those cought giving food to these starving people would be shot, showing this was very clearly intentional
>>140114268 Not really. your analogy would work if it was regular food, and then the British and American bombers poisoned the food... but then the Nazis wouldn't be entirely to blame. But for the Holocaust narrative to work, the Nazis have to be 100% evil while the Allies are the good goys
>>140096337 >hocolcaust didn't happen, but if it did I would totally support it Yes it happened, numbers may be lower, but the very act of genociding people like vermin happened on a major scale. Lots of sources, these SS hoarding murrican fags are just too lazy or don't speak german. If nazis didn't believe it was true to some extent they wouldn't get such a hard-on for Hitler, though.
Now you are just deflecting and diverting the conversation. You're essentially admitting that anything that happened to them is justified. It's so far beyond the pale of intellectual dishonesty it's not funny buddy.
Internment was a common practice throughout conflicts in the past. Literally every nation locked up the Japanese after pearl harbour. Everyone does this.
So there was a literal civil war in Germany involving jewish militia, before WWII. WWII puts a shit tonne of pressure on germany, and the least of their concern is the jews getting fed or not.
Were they mistreated? Most likely. Was it an intentional genocide? Most likely not the intention initially. At some point I'm guessing that killing the jewish prisoners was a legitimate option, due to the strain of feeding all these people whilst simultaneously getting every supply system bombed by several nations at once.
Even if the Nazis were genuinely planning the holocaust from the beginning, I believe there needs to be accurate numbers.
>>140116412 >ya it is No it isn't mate. If you had backed up your claims beforehand then ya, it would have been a cop out, but as it were I was merely turning around your line of hawkish questioning and using it on you
>>140116412 Also, technically speaking, it is an argument to say "your source is not credible" which I was saying and is in fact accurate, based on evidence within your source itself (the way it was written) ;)
I backed up every one of my claims in this thread, while you continue to dance around the issue and dodge the question and refuse to post anything to back up one claim you made. you and everyone in this thread know its because you are full of bullshit and got called out on it, so why dont you admit to it. Or post the proof
>Seriously, how does this whataboutism shit disprove the holocaust? as if doing the same shit stalin was doing makes it somehow good. >disapprove Enjoy your strawman arguments.
The whole narrative pushed by the west is that jews were specifically sent by the millions to gaschambers and into incinerators, slaughtered like cattle. Which is not true, they suffered a fate no different from other and much larger population groups, but somehow it is especially terrible because it was done against jews. Obviously jews are much more important than other people and justifies the destruction of european national identities. I don't say it never happened, but turning it into a hyperbole and assigning immense value to one mass killing among thousands is beyond retarded.
>>140116873 You just ignored the point I made though comrade. You ignored the fact that you were being a bothersome Nelly. A whiny Windsor. But seriously, your "evidence" is weak stuff mate. No need to even go past Super Saiyan 1 to beat it up :^)
>>140117088 Oh shit them Hitler digiterinos. And sorry if I wasn't blunt enough, let me rephrase. "What a farcical and deliberate rewriting of history to fit one's narrative" is that argumentative enough for you.
Those marks were caused by tourists in the decades that followed, probably using their keys. >Hardness Test - Before the Polish - YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zn0C6-afHQw [Embed]
>>140117307 The point is that you're all a bunch of dirty commies that had just genocided a bunch of people in russia and Germany said fuck that and wanted you out of their country. You know, the same way you get kicked out of every country.
The “5 million” has driven Holocaust historians to distraction ever since Wiesenthal started to peddle it in the 1970s. Wiesenthal told the Washington Post in 1979, “I have sought with Jewish leaders not to talk about 6 million Jewish dead, but rather about 11 million civilians dead, including 6 million Jews.”
Yehuda Bauer, an Israeli Holocaust scholar who chairs the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, said he warned his friend Wiesenthal, who died in 2005, about spreading the false notion that the Holocaust claimed 11 million victims – 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews.
“I said to him, ‘Simon, you are telling a lie,’” Bauer recalled in an interview Tuesday. “He said, ‘Sometimes you need to do that to get the results for things you think are essential.’”
Bauer and other historians who knew Wiesenthal said the Nazi hunter told them that he chose the 5 million number carefully: He wanted a number large enough to attract the attention of non-Jews who might not otherwise care about Jewish suffering, but not larger than the actual number of Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust, 6 million.
>>140117576 >The point is that you're all a bunch of dirty commies
yeah, Im a commie because I disproved your retarded conspiracy theory so thoroughly that you couldnt even post ONE (1) single piece of evidence to back up one of your claims. You know you are questioning your own conspiracy theory right now and its only a matter of time before you have to admit that holocaust denial is stupid bullshit
>>140117425 I'm shitposting because this is 4chan and my worldview is rock solid, which is probably a bad thing since it speaks volumes about how dogmatic I've become, but regardless I am devoid of the emotion of anger, I am filled with only smugness and a surety that the Holocaust didn't happen, but it should have.
>>140117806 No, I don't have to do any of that. I believe what I want. If I want to believe the truth then I'll believe it. If I want to believe a lie then I'll believe it. If I don't want to believe your khazar bullshit then I won't believe it. Your people have an obsession with trying to capture other peoples minds. Not that I truly believe khazars are even human.
>>140114656 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto >poland is a shithole imagine my surprise. >oy vey, the germans didn't provide for their every whims. I like how all the citations in that article are by jews. boils my noodles >typhus there it is. it was well documented that jews lived in crammed quarters and had low standards of hygiene
>Aktion T4 was officially terminated by Hitler on August 24, 1941 but it was continued by many of the physicians who had been involved, until Nazi Germany was defeated in 1945.
A plan that hitler canceled in the early stages of the war grew to massive sizes and killed the 6 gorillion.
And you keep ignoring everything everyone else is saying. You are picking and choosing and when you loose or get disproven you respond to something else. JIDF plz go
>>140096337 Jews were absolutely rounded up and put to work in labour camps. The germans needed man power to feed their war machine. In such camps it's reasonable to assume that many jews died from disease, exposure to the elements, industrial accidents and, towards the end of the war, famine.
What they did not die from however was a systematic extermination effort. And certainly the number was not even close to 6 million. The facts simply don't add up. Unrealistic and inefficient methods of killing, too few crematoriums, an apparently endless supply of 'survivors', complete lack of physical evidence (no mass graves or piles of ash/bone etc.) and an absence of documentation.
The official narrative is absolutely wrong no matter what the actual truth is. To believe it is insane.
>>140118154 Mate you like that Irish guy and I'm that one nigger. And I've been shitposting the whole thread so ;)) ya dig? But ya, its pretty funny watching you lolocaust lovers avoid the meaty arguments and insteady hit hard on silly things, like the six million number being 100% factual truth. Silly boys tee hee.
>>140098718 Haven't seen this one The man laughing with the soccer story speaks very loud >>140099281 At least be thankful >>140099320 Think why use z-b? Why not CO2 from the heaters/crematoriums? Takes about the same time to kill I victims barely notice it, is cheap an you dont need special equipment to clean the mess after
>>140118683 >American education. The pictures point out that you can't effectively gas a chamber full without the proper door type. In the Auschwitz holocauster gas room however they somehow gassed 6 gorrilion jews while using a crappy wooden door.
>>140096337 The holohoax is a myth and even the ADL admits that 44% of global youth don't buy it. Only baby boomers buy a giant lie built on widely disparate and contradicting stories (many proven false) and the idea that all physical evidence and the lack thereof should be excluded from the conversation on penalty of prison.
I still prefer to argue that internment was more than justified. I bring up the 1918 German communist revolution where 90% of the leadership was Jewish, kike Lenin and his kike/multicult bolshevik party murdering any halfway intelligent ethnic Russian/Ukranian after the civil war, Jew NKVD head Yagoda and his merry band of kikes famining 6,000,000+ European Christians around the Black Sea in the 1930's, etc. etc. etc.
>>140123404 Blowing out the holohoax has been illegal in most of Europe since the 1990's. It's a giant scam to hide judeo-communism and the tens of millions of Christian Europeans killed by kike commies in the 20th century. Jew NKVD head Yagoda alone famined more than six million Christian Europeans around the Black Sea in the 1930's. A few hundred thousand inbreds died, almost all from typhus, starvation or a bullet to the back of the head. They absolutely deserved to be interned. Hitler had already deported 80,000 kikes to Palestine and hundreds of thousands fled to the UK/USA/Canada before the war.
We need to focus less on the sixteen gorillion and more on what they've done to Europeans.
nope we Jews are too powerful to be killed specially by some lil fagget with a missing testicle. the truth is we controlled Hitler he was our fuck toy and we used him to further our agenda. but what would you Nazi larpers know about plans and sheeit, you niggers are too busy fapping to animu "thanks to us" that you can't form a coherent thought
Once again I will bring up that a person produces around 100 cubic inches of ash. This means right around 3 cubic miles of ash. They show the "ash heaps" which are maybe 20 cubic yards, and the lakes which the supposedly poured the ashes in, which are only 50 yards around.
People may have died, but there simply isn't enough remains for it to be as they claim.
>>140124164 They had hundreds of industrial slaughterhouses and needed fertilizer. If they truly were death camps they would have turned the inbreds into a nice paste to spread on the fields next spring. Only infected bodies were cremated in the half dozen crematorium slots per camp.
Anyone can look at aerial photos of the camps and see that there were no massive coke/coal piles. Nor were there massive coal mines or coal trains. If the Germans wanted to gas people they would have used their massive chemical weapon stockpiles or they would have used ammonia/bleach of which the camps had plenty. The sole IG Farben chemical plant in 1942 apparently created all the zkylon. It's a joke on the face of it and falls apart immediately. We need to argue what they've done not the six gorillion
"Why did Hitler hate jews? Rabbi Yosef Tzvi ben Porat will explain to you"
>letting a people live in your land and practise sin that mainly destroys and parasites your own people is treating them like shit.
Oh and then they tried to set up and train these people at running their own Nation. And still you have the fucking lies and schemes to siphon money and resources from the same people you originally started destroying. Yeah sure some people prolly hated them. Implying they treated each other the same is retarded.
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