POL BTFO BY GAVIN MCCINES YOU GUYS ARE NO DIFFERENT THEN

>gavinspostprolapseanusinfrontofamic.png

>THEY CANT MAKE FUN OF MY HORSESHOE THEORY IF I CALL IT A DONUT THEORY EH

fucking leafs man

Gavin Mccines is an idiot.

>>140020682
>You guys
>Everyone here is "alt-right"
>Let's just ignore the constant Commie leftypol shitposts and libertarian majority that posts here
>Shitty looking graph
>Can't even use a protractor or compass
>BTFO

>>140020682
>The "JQ" / anti-semitism. Disdain for Israel & belief Jews have too much power

What did he mean by this?

/pol/ is so easy to BTFO because all their views are based on simple hate, not any kind of rational or logical argument.

Except the alt-left try to take people's rights away.

>>140020682
>Liberals and DNC
>Close to center
Kek
>GOP and Neocons
>Close to center
Another kek
>Neocons are closer to "far right" than the GOP
>Neocons are literally liberals but conservative in name only
Final kek

did he just ripoff the chad and virgin centrist meme?

>>140021311
It'd look that way, if you just got here and haven't read a single thread, yeah.

>>140020682
The alt left goes outside and beats people. I stay inside and shitpost but im the not see

>>140021410
no, he just restated the beta horseshoe theory but called it a "donut".

>>140021311
what? Views on what?

The left fights for more government to impose rules and regulations that order people to OBEY at all times. The right fights to protect freedom for the people of the country.

>>140020682
>racial identity and JQ not part of the center-GOP
Has Gavin never met a single one of those no-nonsense Christian soccer moms? You think it's mere coincidence they push their husbands to buy into the most white-gentrified areas and never invite the jewkids to their own kids' birthday parties?
lol

>paleoconservatives are too far right for Gavin McInnis
What a fucking cuck. Also horseshoe is retarded.

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>>140020682
>>140020682
>>140020682

Gavin is a race baiting jew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJA_bAShDhY

yeah and the regular alt righters see the charlottes ville types as nazis so there isn't even an agreement within groups

Try and label all you want but once you do, the group gets split up.

le what is happening to the generation man

>>140020682
>fuck white men!
>actually, I want to preserve my fellow white people

oh yeah Gavin, they're so close they're touching. Polar opposites are practically the same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc

>>140020682
>"The "JQ" (Jewish Question) / Anti-Semitism. Disdain for Israel & Belief Jews have too much power.

Lol. Gavin - Pound My Ass With A Dildo - McInnes is intentionally putting together all these ideas to force people on the right to support Israel, lest they be labelled as a NAZI.
A belief that Jewish organizations and individuals are powerful in the West and an interest in the Jewish Question does not necessarily mean that you are a rabite antisemite. There are plenty of Jews who argue that Jewish organizations and individuals are very powerful, and have been advancing Jewish interests. Antizionist Jews in particular come to mind. Brainlets like Gavin might argue that these Jews are a bunch of antisemites who secretly love Hitler and want anudda Shoa, but that is just plain wrong and a shitty Boomer argument.
It's like these fucking boomers claiming last month that the boys storming Normandy were Antifa.

A much better drawing. Also, natsocs = socialists, and socialists are not Right wing, and thus not Alt-right.

>>140022115
for
>>140021875

>>140021677
You have to be over 18 to post here.

>>140020682
What the fuck is this illegible doodle?

>>140021262
JQ is the "jewish question"

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Centrists get the bullet too.

Hey Gav, Since you're unemployed you seem to have alot of time to shitpost on /pol/.
If you were going to end up out of work, perhaps you should have taken an ideological stand, instead of being canned for not signalling hard enough.
You're a man without a country now, surrounded by shitskins and jew "proudboys".

>>140020682
didnt he put things in his butt on video?

does some one have the pic of Richard Spencer kissing this fucking faggot? More people need to see that.

>>140020682
They're literally the complete opposite.

>Alt-left
Wants to penalise whites for "historic inequality"
Supports discrimination against whites in employment because they believe it's justified
Thinks minorities should get more taxes spent on them
Would literally discriminate against whites in EVERYTHING until there were more minorities in them
Wants socialism, very high taxes
Wants everything to be owned by the government
Believes it's okay to shoot cops

>Alt-left
Doesn't want to penalise whites
Actively fights against discrimination against whites
Thinks minorities should abide by the fucking law like the rest of us do
Wouldn't discriminate against whites in anything
Wants freedom, low taxes
Wants private enterprise
Believes it isn't okay to shoot cops

>>140020682

We're funnier than the alt-left. We also have larger dicks.

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>>140020682
DUDE MUH HORSESHOE LMAO

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True, the commies act as a kind of controlled opposition for the alt-right. A controlled opposition the alt-right could never control or conceive of,
But we race realists are different. The are who they are because they are envious and weak.
We are who we are because we are targeted for being white, straight, male, and successful.
They alt-left has endless mental gymnastics and dead philosophies of the subject.
We have Heidegger. We are an identity group only by default.

>>140021262
He's referring to the fact that leftists think Israel is often too harsh on the oppressed Palestinian people.

That is, of course, completely different to the alt-right who think Jews have a particular character, and one which often pursues things which are detrimental to the interests of white people. I don't think the left-wing would ever agree with this.

>>140020682
>One wants to preserve civilization
>Other wants destroy it with most effective biological weapon - shitskin races
LMAO GOYS THEY JUST ALL THE SAME PLS DONATE TO MY PARTEON

>>140022104
>It's like these fucking boomers claiming last month that the boys storming Normandy were Antifa.

God it was painful. And to think that this was the best meme than came out of their heads...
Reddit frontpage after Charlotesville was filled with at least a couple of this for some days. Really makes you think.

Also I'm with you on the McInnes issue, he trying to associate JQ with Israel is pure ignorance. Hell I've seen a lot of anti-semite rabbis on YT if that's the case.

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>>140022115
>Also, natsocs = socialists
Ooga booga

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>>140022424
>dropping dodge challengers from helicoptors on crisis actors

>>140021061
lol

>>140020682
As if those 4 criterea are reasonable for making a political compass.
He just picked things we have in common with eachother.

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post proper political spectrums

>the donut

fucking leafs always thinking about Tim Hortons.

No wonder they have shit taste.

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>>140020682
>the 'alt right' is a collective which can be defined by a specific set of beliefs, and not a spectrum of different ideologies
>the 'alt right' is in favour of almost as much socialism as actual socialism
>the 'alt left' are aware of jewish influence and oppose it, instead of being lead entirely by jewish influence and funded by it
>the 'alt right' is as atheistic as socialists are

gavin and his cuck friends are so pathetic. They're so desperate to avoid being called racist that they produce shit like this and just erect strawmen against those with a spine.

The 'alt right' isn't something that can be defined in the same way that neoconservatives or liberalism can. It's a backlash which has been growing for decades among whites against leftist, globalist policies, and while almost everyone that might fit under the umbrella 'alt right' agrees on a few issues (end to mass immigration for example), things like religion and the extent to which the state should be socialized have no consensus.

Gavin and co are just faggots that are still afraid of the 'r' word, and even though he almost entirely resembles a cuckservative he for some reason still calls him self 'alt-' anything.

He also ignores the fact that the reason so many people are embracing white identity politics is because it is neccesary. We need to defend ourselves from people like pic related who will allow encourage all other groups to act in their collective interest but whites, until we cease to be a majority in our own homelands, at which point it doesn't matter what we believe in. No amount of based black men will save you Gavin.

>>140020682
Daily reminder that alt-right is a term people should never apply to themselves

>>140022492
More like

>Alt right
Wants to penalise non-whites because of "demographic trends"
Supports discrimination against non-whites in employment because they believe it's justified
Thinks whites should get more taxes spent on them instead of minorities
Would literally discriminate against non-whites in EVERYTHING until there were no more minorities around
Wants whites-only socialism, very high taxes
Wants everything to be regulated by the government (to ensure white interests are secured)
Believes it's okay to shoot cops if they're opposing the "cause"

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>>140020682
Fuck Israel

Fuck the Jewish media elite

Free Palestine

>>140020682
MUH HORSESHOE THEORY

>>140020682

I'm not sure about BTFO

DNC and GOP are touching too

What's the point of the donut? Only people on the inside have any beliefs?

>>140020682

>you guys
>assuming we're just one hivemind incapable of thinking independently and having differing opinions of ideology

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>>140020682
Mel Gibson was right

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Obligatory.

>he made an autistic chart
>guaranteed replies

That's unfair. He knows we all have autism.

>>140020682
>than

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-rfA037cLo

Gavin the Cuck knows.

I am convinced now. Jews don't run the World and guys who shove dildos up their ass are the saviors of Western Civilization.

Ohh and if we make brown immigrants sign a "West is best" document they will become meta-Whites and make Western Civilization Great Again.

I love McCuck now and i am now a follower of McCuckism.

>>140023208
t. Strayan on vacation in the US.

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>donut
>it's a mobius strip

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>>140020682
Gavin literally pissed into a bowl of cheerios and ate it. I don't give a fuck what he has to say.

>>140023516
But listen to this song his cuck followers made!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXpffMXUcAg

>>140023516
it was ironic so it's okay

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>>140023611
Just fucking lmao

>>140020682
I don't get how it works

>>140020682
Autistic Scribbles

Kewl!

>>140023611
Jesus fucking Christ...

>>140020682
NEOCONS ARE THE BEST GUYS WE SHOULD VOTE MORE IN CHECK OUT HIS GRAPH! THEY REALLY ARE THE BEST

>>140022115
Why do people still fall for the shitty political compass centred around how shekels are distributed as a major axis?

>>140020682
>disdain for Israel is antisemitic

what is his real last name? did he married a jewess

>>140022898

Why do I always see NatSoc and Fascism separated on these charts? Maybe there's some nuance I'm missing but aren't they basically identical in practice and theory?

>>140022492
>Wants freedom, low taxes
>Wants private enterprise
I get the impression you don't really know what the "alt right" is.

>>140022115
natsoc=socialist=sub 90 iq

>>140024317
He married an American Indian, and she's left as fuck.

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>>140022590
>state-libertarianism

>>140023733
>he has never venerated the entrepreneur

>>140023733
>He doesn't know 5 brands of cereal

Alt-Right = 14 Words.

It's not about your retarded JEW dialectic of "Capitalism vs Socialism/Communist"

>>140024490
t. Angela - Open the Floodgates - Merkel voter

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>>140024662
Yeah this is probably the essence.

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>>140020682
>alt left and alt right are the same thing dont u see
w e w

>>140023106
you're gonna get the rope shitskin.

>>140020682
We both have the same enemies and the same problems. There is only one final solution. The 1 percent must go. Press the restart button. We are all slaves at this point. Take out the masters.

>>140021262
Some leftists think israel is a white supremacist nation

>>140024968
What the fuck. Imagine being a Proud Boy and having this retard as your leader.

>>140020682
Really, who gives a shit about Gavin McInnes?

>>140021535

The 'alt-right' is fighting for the first of those two things though.

>>140022115
>>140022176
this is a braindead child's interpretation of politics

>>140020682
Nu-/pol/ is alt-right

Old /pol/ is Libertarian/PaleoCon

>>140025355
the only people who become proud boys are men with weak fathers. Lucky them, they get this sick leaf faggot instead...

>>140025304
Well, if you believe that Jews are white, then yes it is a white supremacist nation. Fact is, Israel under Netanyahu's Likud is ethnostate, and Likud isnt even the edgiest right wing party. That prize goes to Yisrael Beiteinu which really wants to remove kebab.

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>>140024331
They are absolutely identical.
>inb4 some retard claims fascism had no racial theories
Read Evola meeting with Mussolini regarding racial policy. The difference is cultural - Italy didn't have German folk romanticism and German unification movements. Nevertheless our current situation can't allow us anything but strict racialism.

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>>140020682
This is a joke, right? Some leaf's shitty crayon political theory was meant to offend us burgers?

>>140026139
>Evola
>Muh fascists arent right wing enough

>Me: radical centrist
>Evola ur a crasy

>>140026732

His concern with Mussolini wasn't that their fascism wasn't right wing enough, it was the contradiction between their desire to resurrect the Roman mentality while not also resurrecting the Roman pagan spirituality.

>>140022424
That religion point is fucking great

>>140021311
yeah you have a lot of lurking to do, padawan

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>>140023501
>The trajectory of history is propelled by techonology and material conditions of society
This point right here (by Marx probably) is what differentiates right-wing from left-wing.

>>140021875
Good post

>>140022115
The NSDAP only added "socialist" to the name to try and appeal to the working class. Originally they were just called the DAP (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei - German Workers' Party).

They originally opposed the word "socialist" because they were nationalists, they were anti-communists - that's what defined the movement. But then they realised that they really needed to win the support of the working classes. So they came up with the idea of "national socialism" - a nationalist/völkisch ideology, but also one which gave some basic social support to members of the Aryan race.

National socialism is actually a pretty centrist economic position. They wanted capitalism, they wanted private ownership - they just thought that there should be SOME level of state protection too. Very centrist, economically.

>>140027641
You got it all right except they called themselves socialists not in the marxian economic sense but an ethnonationalist.
>From Middle French social, from Latin sociālis (“of or belonging to a companion or companionship or association, social”)

>>140027139
>pagan
>spirituality
Pick one

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>>140021311
>all their views are based on simple hate

>>140021311
ok dude then you should have no problem proving the holocaust is real
>>140021320
what are helicopter rides?
what about gay rights? civil rights?
women rights?
>>140021453
thanks to gavin and his faggy jew friends (spencer, enoch, etc) the "alt right" goes out and beats people too
>>140021535
>The right fights to protect freedom
do you know where you are?
>>140021547
good point
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo

>>140028235

>says cultureless protestant while wondering why nobody wants to listen to the latest Christian pop rock boy band "Chris† is my Rock!" or spend more than five minutes inside your hideous "churches"

Here's a funny thing, protestants consider Catholics to be pagan idolators because they believe the saints are deified humans that can exert divine intervention while operating independently of the creator god.

>>140020682
then why cant the left meme?
should be label the line between alt left and alt right "meme magic event horizon"?

>>140028797
That is basically Pagan. Saint or Mary worship, and even Christ suffering on the cross worship is all nonsense. Only He should be given any praise or temples in name.
Pagans were not spiritual in the least anyways. Sacrifices are empty gestures for earthly gains. There was no connection or seeking of God. There was a goal and a price they thought needed paid.

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>>140020682
Horseshoe theory is a meme for virgins

>>140029395
>then why cant the left meme?
Political correctness. 90% of good jokes require offending someone.

>>140020682
wow an opinion by a faggot that shoves buttplugs up himself
kys

>>140020682
>BLM
>Alt Right
>Atheism

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>>140020682
>donut theory
>man who showed his prolapsed anus on his show

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>>140029714
dont they live off not only eoffending us but destroying us white males?
why cant they make fun of us?
we could do it easily ourselves, we could do their memeing job no problem if it motivated us
no, the left cant meme because it is pyramidal authoritarian
which goes to show that if this board's naziboys had their way, this whole agora experiment going on over here would vanish
we are the new left: our structure is libertarian as hell

free speech: radical freedom on the marketplace of ideas
anonymity: radical depersonalization
fast obsolescence: radical tabula rasa always renewed

the left receives orders from soros, we worship kek and jordan peterson

>>140029446

>That is basically Pagan

Which is what I said. Martin Luther worked hard to remove the elements of paganism from Christianity. What are you left? Spiritually vacuous nations and some ugly red brick churches that can be easily mistaken for a public rest room. It reminds me a lot of Jewish modern architects and artists and their ceaseless quest to overwrite everything beautiful and good in the world with visual monstrosities. All the catholic and orthodox nations are still faithful though. And their churches are still magnificent.

>Pagans were not spiritual in the least anyways. Sacrifices are empty gestures for earthly gains.

Self-sacrifice is central to all faiths that embrace the path of asceticism. Tacitus noted that the Germanics were thoroughly monogamous outside of some political marriages. It certainly stands at odds with the Christian interpretation of paganism as being a means of spiritually justifying instant, earthly gratification. I think you are mistaking a lot of innate, biological European mentalities with something specific to Christianity. If you want a religion of self-gratification, look no further than Islam. They are far from monogamous, and their reward in heaven is entirely sexual in nature. It's perverse.

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>>140030033
>gavin's donut

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>>140020682
>implying the true political spectrum isn't a separate three dimensional cube for each and every issue, depth being how much you actually care
>implying gavin mcinnis didnt sexually molest his entire audience

>>140030157
>All the catholic and orthodox nations are still faithful though.
sure, the islam faith

>>140020682
Ever since the adl named him he has been violently sucking their cock. He's been branded by the jooz.

>>140020682
>Centre
>racial identity politics

>Jewish question
>being a category at all
well i can already see raging poblems with this

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>>140020682
>implying I am alt-right

The first political books written by people like John Locke and I always thought of myself as a liberal. In the traditional sense of the word. With what has happening in the world latelty I have started to read Evola and now I am starting to wonder if the whole enlightenment wasn't a mistake. Materialism and the modern word, for all it has done to help man has also done as much if not more to damage him.

but yeah, we are all alt-right

>>140030415

Even Greece is like 98% orthodox or something like that. That might be nominal statistics though

>>140030175
>>140030175
God that's hot

>>140020682
Gavin McInanus has to sit on a doughnut because of the traumatic devastation that he puts his rectum through on a daily basis

>>140030129
>dont they live off not only eoffending us but destroying us white males?
That is the inherent problem in liberalism. They either allow their enemies and give them universal tolerance thus self-destructing or they break their principles of universal equality.
>why cant they make fun of us?
They do. The upper bourgeoisie jew of Hollywood has created the trope of the white stupid rural racist.

>>140030621
check my flag
france has been dechristianized for a long time now
only higher middle class tradi catholics are still around, they may be like 5 to 10% at most i guess
the rest of the christian population you may see in statistics refers to idiots who take their children to freemasonic schools posturing as catholic because their pious grandmothers are still around: totally cucked and dying in faith and body

>>140030157
Don't bring up individual cases like it takes up the whole people. Greeks had their secrets cults some of which were way more spiritually advanced then Christians anytime. Initial poster was talking about Roman Paganism not Forest Pagans who lived and shit in the woods.
Romans were so bad Jesus had to come at the height of their power. That's enough for me to know how bad the Romans were and that we are not far away from being on their level.
Self-Sacrifice is very different from killing animals in a big temple to help you gain more spoils.

>>140030812
>They do. The upper bourgeoisie jew of Hollywood has created the trope of the white stupid rural racist.
this is so last century
it has no traction on the internet
we rule because we create "freely" and "independently" like a hive

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>>140030606
...books that I read were written by people...

Gah, I am tired and forgetting to include important words in sentences.

>>140030985
I didn't mean to pick an ass flag.

>>140030985
>Romans were so bad Jesus had to come at the height of their power.
a theory goes that rural citizens of the empire regressed into goddess worship and christianity was designed by the roman rulers to bring back the sheeple under domination of the central power
so jesus = anti feminist

>>140030175

what the fuck is wrong with his asshole?

>>140020682
>le factual chart showing that neocons are perfect
Gavin is such a fuck up

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>>140022898
>ancap meme land

He's doing this because nobody wants to associate with autistic nazi's. It has always been mentally ill retards who spam their powerlevel that hold back any right wing progress, kkk, skinheads, richard spencer, /pol/acks, all harmful to any anti leftist movements

so he's shilling for neo-conservatism? i don't get it.

>>140020682
There are only two factions - Globalists vs Nationalists. What the centrist brainlets don't understand is that if globalism wins all their ideologies go down the toilet as well. Anything non-socialist will be purged.

>>140020682
>puts "socialism is a viable option" as alt-right
How stupid can he be?
And the shoehorn theory is completely incorrect, for example alt-left and alt-right would not be so close as they have completely opposite viewpoints, the slight similarities are not enough to classify them so close together.

>>140030985

>don't bring up individual cases

I wasn't.

Also, the Germanics and Celts, who "lived and shit" in the woods, were regarded as very hygienic. Romans used to comment on the regularity of the Gaulish bathing habits and the perfumes they used to make and wear. You might find it interesting to note that paganism has survived in the Baltic states to some extent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEwOxdAAjYE

>Romans were so bad Jesus had to come at the height of their power

Confirmation bias. Jesus was a Jewish rebel prophet who wanted to reform the Jews, who at the time lived basically lived like uncivilized savages and got BTFO by the Romans in every battle ever. The fact that these are the same people who dreamed up cutting baby penises and sucking the blood out should tell you what their living standards would've been, if you imagine regressing living standards and hygiene by 2,000 years. Even Christ himself, in the way he spoke of the Jews and the non-Jews, made it seem as though he came as a messenger for the Jews more than anyone else. That Jesus appeared while Rome occupied Israel doesn't mean anything about the Romans. It means that the suppression of the Jews along with the presence of the Pharisees/collaborators made the political environment ripe for a reformation.

>>140031825
Exactly. The only thing that connects the alt-right and "alt-left" is their hate for the current liberal system but the fact is that the alt-left shares the exact same ideas as the liberal system just taken to an extreme.

>>140020682
The graphic isn't too bad but he conveniently ignores things that separates ""'alt-right""" and alt-left : collectivism, globalism... there are major divides.

>>140021311
>all their views are based on simple hate

Yeah maybe hating themselves

Also the rising atheism in the far-right tells me he has no idea what he is talking about.

>>140020682
Seems like people in the middle believe in a bunch of nothing

>>140032491
Jesus did not want to reform anything. He did away with Jewish laws The Jews worshiped his Father so of course they are going to get that kind of direct attention. Herod the Great being King, Pharisees and Roman occupation was not coincidence no mater how much you like to think so. Nothing is coincidence. I only believe in Castration of the Heart.
Jesus was a carpenter anyways he was not a Rabbi with huge influence his whole life.
You have a Roman hard-on bias.

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>>140021311
>/pol/ is one person

>>140021262
"I'm a cuck, don't black list me!"

>>140020682
WTF
i love 'alt-left' now!

>>140020682
I mean, he's not entirely wrong.

>>140031243
it's been fucked a lot.
he thinks he's a passable "straight" guy, when really he's a just an obvious gay guy.

>>140020682

>GOP
>no racial identity politics

HAHAHAHAHAH

>neocon
>nothing bad here goy

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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>>140033770

>>140022424
>>140022590
>>140029533
lol, there's one of these for everything

>>140022424
I can't fucking breathe aaaaaaaaaaa

>>140033514
>Jesus did not want to reform anything. He did away with Jewish laws

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>>140021311
>/pol/ isn't everybody on that chart
Summer begone

>>140020682
>paleocon
>JQ

Whot?

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>>140034269
A few of them are redpilled.

>>140031243
Too much butt stuff too often

>>140020682
> in order to be a socialist you must be an atheist
What did he mean by this?

>>140027457
Evola is crap, why would people bring that unscientific esoteric shit into a political debate?

>>140034672
Because not everything is rationalism as dictated by the French Revolution.

>>140020682
welp, it doesn't tell us anything NEW, but it's not a bad graph. helpful little political compass.

>protip, if you identify with any group on the graph, you're doing this wrong

>>140033514

>Jesus did not want to reform anything
>He did away with Jewish laws

Why did the early Christians refer to themselves as Jews, and call the pagans "gentiles"? Christianity was a Jewish reformation, the Jews who didn't convert don't like it because Christ said "if you accept me as your lord and savior, we can all be Jews"

>Jesus was a carpenter anyways he was not a Rabbi with huge influence his whole life.

So what? Mohammad was a complete literally who until he moved from Mecca to Medina and started preaching his nonsense.

>was not coincidence

No, it's not a coincidence. Nor is it a coincidence that after the Christianization of Rome was complete, the empire split up, and those in the Western Empire were forced to live in the humiliation of being surrounded by aqueducts, roads and monuments built by pagans for centuries while they were only capable of quarrying monuments to build hovels. Once Europe got back on its feet in the renaissance, so obsessed were they with the Roman and Greek accomplishments that they implemented pale imitations of their architecture into the construction of their buildings (neoclassical).

I also don't think it's a coincidence that now that in the void left by the collapse of Protestantism, many are returning to the old gods. If you were spiritual you would understand that sometimes good things come from bad things, and it is indisputably bad that the European peoples have become so atheistic (opening the door for a certain predator religion...), but in my opinion, the good thing that has come of this is the return to paganism in the quest to find a faith that is inextricably linked to the European bloodlines.

It is also no coincidence that 99% of the ADL's "hate symbols" derive from paganism, nor is it a coincidence that the only rebellion against the international Jewry was led by a man who put a neopagan (Alfred Rosenberg) in a position of influence to reform Christianity into "positive Christianity".

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>>140034646
he didn't mean nothing.

socialism is secular christianity, and, like any ideology, is religious in nature.

>t. Chaos Magician//Good chess player

>>140020682

>gop & neocons
>right of centre

lel

>>140020682
ok he can whine all he wants, but the only people that will stop the alt-left is the alt-right. everyone else is in full cuckold mode.

>>140027457
>The trajectory of history is propelled by techonology and material conditions of society
even if we accept this as being true, the shift from feudalism land owning lords to capital owning bourgeoisie occured primarily due to shifts in technology which made capital more valuable than land. the only way you will ever get your workers paradise is if labour suddenly becomes more valuable than both land and capital.

Capital would need to become so cheap to obtain such as with 3D-printing that everyone can afford to own a means of production. All your revolution crap is useless so long as technology has not caught up to the point that the power balance is disrupted.

The bourgeoisie did not overthrow the landownders because Karl fucking Marx told them too, it just happened naturally as a product of the industrial revolution.

>>140020682
>/pol/
>alt-right

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also McInnes is a mega-loser, just look at the weird gay stuff he's done live on air

BTW Gavin is 100% right

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>>140020682
>DNC
>Not MASSIVELY playing identity politics
Gavin is a fuckwit

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>>140027641
>National socialism is actually a pretty centrist economic position. They wanted capitalism, they wanted private ownership - they just thought that there should be SOME level of state protection too. Very centrist, economically.
Not only state protection but also major government programs, huge infrastructure work and generally an oversight on capitalists to make sure that there businesses benefits the country.
They would have achieved such great things if it wasn't for the war.

Anyway I agree economically it is centrist.

>>140035455
in essence if capitalism is overthrown its not going to be replaced with communism which is the most retarded system I've ever heard of, whats its going to be replaced with is localized 3D-printed production.

It also isn't like land owners just all fucking died after the bourgeoisie revolution, they still existed, they just had severly reduced power. Capitalists will always exists, its just that technology will make it so that people have other options than to simply work for capitalists.

goddamn are leftists retarded. they assume they know everything with their dialectical materialism and historical determinism but they were so busy jerking themselves off about how perfect their theory was that they forgot to fucking look at what actually happened

>>140036322
daily reminder that marxists are literally religious fanatics trying to bring about the apocalypse so that the utopia foretold by their prophet comes to fruition

>>140020682
Literally a repackaged horseshoe theory. Yawn.

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>>140034921
>still blaming the Fall of Rome on Christianity
All Empires share the same fate. None of them last long. And Protestantism didn't cause this shit. It's always been Socialism. Though many Protestants are Socialists.

>>140040004

>protestantism didn't cause this shit

I never said it did. I just have a particular distaste for Protestantism because it lacks the mystical elements of the older forms of Christianity and seldom produces anything beautiful.

>blaming the fall of rome on christianity

You are correct in that all empires have collapsed, and it is an inevitability, but everything has a cause and an effect. The Roman Empire didn't truly fall until the Arianist (Christian) Visigoths sacked Rome.

Also, this is kind of unrelated and is more a kind of spiritual speculation, but the sheer suffering inflicted on the European peoples after the fall of Rome I think was a kind of punishment for forsaking the old gods, the ancestors and the heroes and embracing a foreign deity. The replacement of the Europeans in North Africa with Arabs, and with Arab-Mongol hybrids in Anatolia, and the loss of control of the Levant along with the plague that absolutely decimated Europe, several impotent and largely wasteful crusades were all a kind of punishment that makes even the plagues supposedly inflicted upon Egypt for enslaving the Jews in the bible look like a fun little prank.

Christians were only granted two real boons in the entirety of that era prior to the renaissance, the victory at the Battle of Tours, and the Mongol sacking of Baghdad where they completely depopulated the city and filled in the old Persian and Greek canals on which the city thrived. The Arabs knew to maintain and use the infrastructure, but they were too stupid to dig it back out. The sack of Baghdad was like a dagger in the heart of the Islamic expansion.

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>>140024968
I've seem Gavin's cock and blown out asshole way too many times now

>>140040857
Same reason I don't like protestants. And the Catholics. The Capuchin Monk(ies) ruined what little Mysticism ever existed in the Church. Christianity is in dire need of reformation. It's integral it have Pagan and Eastern influence in it.

>>140042720
I don't mean Islam by eastern. Indian things Meditation and Reincarnation.

>>140042979

Well Hinduism as a religion is thought to have descended from the Indo-European paganism (either brought about by conquest or just extended), which makes Hinduism related to the European religions. It's no doubt in part why traditionalists like Evola spoke so highly of Hinduism and its child religion, Buddhism.

>>140043534

just extended periods of contact*

>>140026139
NatSoc would definitely have universal healthcare and a stress on public utilities, whereas Fash can be more pinochet style with privitaization of a great deal of things.

>>140020682
>Gavin Mccines
>Not a retard
Daily reminder that his proud boys organization is specifically anti-masturbation.

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>>140020682
Shitlibs hate Israel for being a racist colonialist state or something.

Altright hates Israel for being a parasite on the US, and Jews for the ideas they push with their elite positions

>>140044102
They're just pro shame and personal responsibility.

>>140020682
inb4 1 post by this Gavin

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>>140020682

Did he run out of fucking crayons?

>>140020682
according to this whore's shoe, I'm a neocon.

>>140021311
>tfw sorrounded by niggers and brown shitskins my whole life
>have to go online and see white cucks from 99,8% white cities saying "we r all da same"
life is pain

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>>140020682
I'm done with Gavin
"Muh horseshoe theory"

>>140020682
>unsourced
>opinion
>looks like something a child would make
>"hey look this proves I'm right"
You are a complete retard, but I guess that's why you're OP.

>>140022461
I want to see this too

>>140020682
Yes just be a neocon goy :^)

>>140022898
>natsoc more tolerant of jews than fascism
You've lost me.

>>140020682
how the fuck are paleocons more antisemitic than alt-righters?

>alt lite master race confirmed

He's right. I'm an identitarian and anti-degeneracy. I hate Jews and capitalism. The industrial revolution destroyed trad culture.

>>140020682
lol libertarian literally doesnt exist on this. also im a catholic and i think its retarded the place he puts atheism at what?just why?
Go get pussy whipped by your native wife gavin you cuck bitch

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>>140020682
fixed

>>140052330
Gavin thinks anyone that's not Jewish, Christian, or Muslim is an atheist basically.

>>140050872
He thinks Buckley kicked out a bunch of Nazi paleoconservatives from National Review.

>>140020682
>implying /pol/ is alt-right
I'd consider myself a paleoconservative and I think that chart is pretty accurate.

>>140020682
>alt left
>doesn't hate jews
>alt right
>hates jews
>at last, they're the same

Are you really this stupid or just shitposting?

>>140021311
contrarianism

>>140022026
The only real difference between the radical left and right is who should benefit from white superiority. Both believe in racial hierarchies with whites at the top, both believe in authoritarianism/censorship, both disavow the current political establishment, both are anti-capitalist/anti-individualist. They're different takes on the same fundamental beliefs.

>>140020682
>calling ppl alt right
>not realizing alt right in media is really alt-lite
Fuckin plebs, if you're gonna go 1488 at least do it right

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>>140020682
>atheism