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If you're on the cop's side in this particular incident, you don't deserve to be American.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/a-utah-nurse-has-been-dragged-from-her-hospital-after-refusing-to-allow-detective-to-break-the-law/news-story/2d6d36401f67192245725f1fa6f88ef0

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Can someone explain his reasoning? Is it "I'm not getting what I want I better arrest her" then "oh shit well I'd look weak if I didn't continue to manhandle this nurse better keep going "
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It's typical cop mentality. They look at civilians like disobedient scum. No other way to explain it.
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>>139945438
>Salt Lake City Police Chief Mike Brown
3 years crime free and already a police chief. I guess he really was a good boy.
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>>139945438
If she ends up winning a civil suit against them and banking a few million, didn't they just help her by doing this?
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>>139945867
a lot of cops have superiority complexes that are easily triggered since most of them could barely make it out of highschool.
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>>139945867
From what I read, the man who was hit and is in the hospital is a volunteer deputy. Apparently the cop wanted to grab his blood so that he can prove later that there was no drugs in his system during the crash. When she denied him he likely took it personal due to the brothers in blue mentality and reacted poorly.
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>>139945438
Why did the cop want the guy's blood drawn?
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>>139946437
so he could prove the guy wasn't to blame for a car accident, I believe.
was the guy related/friend of the cop? don't know.
he seems awfully worked up, must be a reason.
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>>139945867
>Can someone explain his reasoning?
He is a cop

Its a noble post manned by power hungry and petty idiots
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>>139945867
When you're a cop every problem is solved by detaining it and letting the system sort it out. He's a detective so he's likely on autopilot for that sort of thing by now. I doubt he thought about it much at all
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>>139945438
>nurse gets arrested
>is detained for 20 minutes and let go
Why do retards think that detaining someone is an arrest? Anyways the cop was in the wrong in this case
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>>139945438
>The officer's account
>In a police report, Payne said when he arrived to the hospital, Wubbels said he needed to get permission from the hospital administrators.
>After more than an hour waiting, Payne said, he called his supervisor who advised him to arrest Wubbels if she refused to let him draw a blood sample.
>"I told them we wanted to blood sample to protect him, not punish him," he wrote.
>An after-hours message left with the Salt Lake Police Association, the union representing officers, regarding Payne's status was not immediately returned.
>Brown said the department has apologized and that its "blood draw policy" has been replaced with a new one that officers are now using.
>His statement did not mention the policy that was in place at the time of Wubbels' arrest or why police would need a new one.

Seems like the poor sap was just following orders.

https://archive.is/G8kaa
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>>139945867
t. person who has never interacted with pigs before
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>>139946882
Yes I'm not a nig, the only interactions I've had were 2 speeding warnings and some fender benders
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Why can't people just be wrongfully arrested and sue the city for easy money quietly?
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>>139946835
detained FOR ABSOLUTE NO FUCKING REASON !

Fuck this pig cop , hope he gets his ass sued . "TO PROTECT AND SERVE" my ass
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>>139946861
Why didn't the department head protect the nurse or step in to negotiate with police if it was an hour+ dispute?
I know this guy wouldn't let it happen if it occured at his emergency department.
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>>139947011
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>>139946244
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>>139945950
>>139945438
So no one actually watched the video. First, the guy even asked permission from his supervisor who said to detain her if she refused, so it's not his fault. Second, she was only detained, not arrested. Also I explained this in the last 10000 threads you fags have spammed of this one thing and all I got was typical leftypol cuck answers and buzzwords
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>>139946244
Yep mega tards with guns, what could go wrong.
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>>139947147
*bootlicking sounds in the distance*
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>>139945950
>It's typical cop mentality. They look at civilians like disobedient scum. No other way to explain it.
Ever heard them throw around the word civilian with a sneering tone? These dumb fucks don't even realize they are civilians.
t. vet
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>>139947011
she's medical pers, she has to do the right thing even in situations where a cop will fuck her up

or else the law will fuck her harder 6 months later at a review board
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>>139947295
Which war?
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>>139947147
boot licking piece of shit detected.
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>>139945438

respect the law or be locked up
im with police 100%, true heroes and protectors of our great country
lock up the criminal scum
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CAPS R BAD AN NEED TO BEE ABOLHSHED
Fuck off you fuckin pussybags.
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>>139947462
neverdeployed slacker
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The cops a cunt but that fucking "lol you threatening me?" quip was a fucking stupid move
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That piece of shit lost his mind when he realized that he did not have control of the situation. The police were responsible of the death of the retard they were chasing and wanted someone to pin it on (The burnt comatose victim). In that particular hospital in Utah you cant take blood from a victim if the following rules cannot be met

>can give consent
>there is a warrant
>probably cause

The office could not give either of those and lost his mind when he began to loose control over the situation (which the default mode of police) and him and the detective arrested the nurse because she was following the law.
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>>139946415
I don't know what that would prove. There wouldn't have been any kind of proper chain of custody, and if the collector has a vested interest in the outcome of the sample, it would get torn apart by even a shit lawyer.
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>>139947831
Go home to Connecticut dylan
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>>139947011
It's media gold, people eat that shit up. She likely knew it was all being recorded. Might have been one of her coworkers recording it.

>>139947234
>>139947529
t. buzzwords
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>>139947557

you have no idea what this is about do you. don't comment retard.
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>>139948362
she doesnt listen to the law
cant do the time, dont do the crime simple
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>>139946437
he was in a vehicle accident and wasn't even a suspect, they wanted a blood alcohol
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>>139948404
She wouldnt drug an unconscious man. Thats why shes being detained
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>>139948486

>hey I swear I'm a real ragger not some white guy using a VM lol

Don't you have to give your wife to the sheik on your wedding night in the miserable country where you're from?
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looks like a nice profitable lawsuit
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>>139948404

so the law states that the patient needs to consent to give blood, or that the hospital needs a warrant from a judge to take the blood, she showed him the hospital policy and law. The officer didn't even understand the law in which he was trying to enforce.

Obvious troll or stupid person.
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She had it coming.......
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>>139948552
even though she was told to by the police??
thats what criminals do you see, they think they are above the law
i say lock her up, that will teach her a lesson

>>139948764
im pretty sure the officer knows the law better than you

if you were a law obiding god fearing citizen like me, you and your nurse friend wouldnt be such criminal scum
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>>139946244
you mean nearly ALL cops. I respect the good ones, but many are just lunkhead garbage men with guns and a government paycheck.
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>>139948903

>this passes for shitposting on /pol/ now
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>>139948903
This faggot is a lefty shill flying the confederate flag in order to look like a boot-licking fascist. 0/10 bait. Have one last (you).
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>>139946861
>police department sends out a press release defending employee

Really sloggin my noggin with that one anon
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>>139949005

>(you)
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>>139948903

troll identified
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>>139949005
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>>139949005
because i want to keep my country safe??

there are so many criminals these days and not enough deterrents, i want a safe country while you accuse me of being a lefty which is opposite since commies want to release all pedophiles and murderers free i say kill them all instead now thats now what lefty would say is it
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>>139947147
>Second, she was only detained, not arrested.

He specifically said, "You are under arrest."
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>>139945438
>be nurse
>follow the law
>get arrested become some cop had a bad day
>be bootlicking faggot
>defend this
>"muh blue lives matter!"

It's funny seeing all the cop brown nosers here
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>>139949344

I think it's funny seeing someone play VM roulette to keep his thread alive.
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>>139946861
You missed the part about the cop saying they would start dropping off transients at that hospital and paying customers elsewhere.
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>>139948903
>they think they are above the law
Which law did she break?
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Its not like she was strip searched and fingered
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>>139949532
she was trying to be a smartass she should have just listened to the police all they want to do is protect us and she was acting like a scum so he had every right to do it good job
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>>139949441
Check out this based mom beating her degenerate son

>if you suck the cops dick he's on your side
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>>139949643
Being a smartass is not against the law in the US, is it? I believe they have a thing called the First Amendment.
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>>139949668

Anon... Everyone's just humoring you. We're all in another thread posting screen caps and sending them to your 2D crush.
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Police are never on your side if you are an American

they're predatory opportunists who want to exert authority over you whether its legal or illegal
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>>139945438
Hahah the irony here is huge.
I thought /pol/ wanted us to live in a fascist state where the government is all powerful and one person controls the country. If you ever denied the wishes of the SS in Germany or the Gestapo you would be taken out and shot.
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>>139947557
>respect the law or be locked up

>treason flag
>doesn't understand the fourth amendment
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>>139945438
(((They))) just wanted that blood. That nurse is /ournurse/!
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>>139949643
she did her job perfectly and the cop is gonna get fired

bunch of bootlicking reddit faggots in this thread
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>>139949742
you shouldnt be a smart-ass and do as you're told by authority, if you cant respect that pay consequences

i bet you've been to prison yourself thats why you defend the fellow criminal you're all the same dirt of society
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>>139947147
>Second, she was only detained, not arrested
Not what she was told at the time.
Even Mike Brown has agreed this action should be investigated.
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>>139949892
>>139949982
>>139950129
>>139950234
>>139950248

Isn't this all a bit much to keep up when you're hardly getting any participation in return?
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>>139949116
Your point?

>>139949500
Source?
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>>139947147
>He asked for permission
>Got approval
>Not his fault

You think getting approval absolves you from fault?!
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>>139949892
police are there to protect that public from criminals like you, if there is no authority there is no order. i have no problem giving my freedom in exchange for security so people like you wont threaten my society

>>139950129
im proud of my heritage whats wrong with that i am a law aboding citizen always been unlike some..

>>139950234
if she did it perfectly she wouldnt get arrested, lol doubt a police officer would get fired for doing his job
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>>139945438
You cannot take blood from someone unconscious. You can't. That is the law. The detective is completely oblivious to laws pertaining to medicine, hence why the retard arrested the nurse and probably lost his job and allowed the nurse to sue the city for millions.
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>>139950248
you're a faggot
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>>139947557
Watch the video and read the story you retard.
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>>139950234
Gonna need a name for that qt in your pic anon
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>>139950366
Which makes him a poor sap. Damned if you do, damned if you don't
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>>139950366
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_hierarchy

ever heard of following orders?
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>>139950460
so i guess i was right you were in prison in your country i bet in my country youd be locked up for longer, you'd never find a job if it happened here like it should be.

i hear over there people with criminal records can get jobs easy, thats why im glad i live in a country that prevents dangerous people from being in contact with people, thanks god you're not in america
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>>139947147
The problem here is she was detained for no crime, no potential crime. She has every right to sue the city and police department. Second, both the supervisor and the detective are in deep shit - the detective is not innocent as he initiated the arrest. Just because a supervisor gives you permission does not absolve you of guilt in the situation. This has been the case ever since man had created laws through fucking time.
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>>139950420
he's already been put on paid leave. Expect him to get fired/forced to retire and there will probably be a civil lawsuit against him. The guy was simply trying to bully her into doing something illegal. Cops do not determine laws. Hope those boots taste great faggot.

>>139950326
lol I'm just drinking coffee and shitposting, this is zero effort
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>>139948903
>>139949643

The police needed a warrant.

These people saying the nurse should have just done what the policeman asked and deserved being arrested... if the police turn up at your house and demand to search it - are you going to let them just because they tell you to? Is it ok to be arrested or 'detained' when you rightfully say they need a warrant?

There are people in this thread literally saying that matters requiring a warrant can be overlooked just because the police insist they really want whatever it is they are after. Whats the point of a warrant anyway?
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>>139950508
another typical commie who thinks criminals deserve a better chance, how about instead we make harasher sentences so we wont have to see criminals rolling the streets

stop being a snowflake and invest into prisons instead we are in major crisis of crime today, think with your head
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>>139946835
The cop said, "you're under arrest" idiot.
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>>139948266
> She likely knew it was all being recorded. Might have been one of her coworkers recording it.

Did you watch the video you retard? What is the malfunction between you eyes and your brain? The video shows two different bodycams being worn by the police officers.
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It was a poor decision to detain the woman but he looked pretty tired and probably just gave her the o'l disobedient nigger who is probably high treatment without giving much thought to the fact that it's a female nurse who is technically but rightfully resisting.
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>>139948404
Read the story you retard, she was following the law. The policeman wasn't.
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>>139950420
>criminals like you

lol didn't you hear about that grampa who got paralyzed by a little dick policeman just because he felt disrespected and other more ridiculous american LE stories, like that guy last year who was a nurse to a retarded guy wandering around who got shot and the officer replied "he didn't know why he shot him"

you're an idiot if you think that the boys in blue don't need to be put in check now.
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>>139950428
Well, you are wrong. I don't know the details but if the person in question was found behind the wheel the cop sure as hell can take him to the ER for blood draw. 100% legal. So for you to assume it is not legal just tells us you ain't even a pretend lawyer.
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>>139947147
What kind of fucking faggot bootlicking cuck would defend this and then think he can call others cucks?
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>has to be released in an Australian news station

lmao

American LE and jail industry probably suppressing news like this
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>tfw Leftists argue that you don't need guns because you have police to protect you
>yet they always forget cases like this

Those kinds of mental gymnastics must be amazing to pull off.
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>>139950594
>thanks god you're not in america
yeah likewise
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>>139950671
>not knowing there was more than one video
>retard calling another person a retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHWXqZQ2_Rw
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>>139950757
Imagine her pointing at your dick like that
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>>139950609
yeah i doubt it, the police are educated on laws and how to handle things, you just protect a criminal because you want them all out on our streets endangering lives

>>139950618
warrant is a waste of time and red tape, didnt the uk just dropped them. theresa may and snooper's charter gave police to have into phones and collect data without court approval you see britain understands how to fight crime

i guess you're scared they will read your email now and all the bad things you been saying about the police so they may watch you now, because you're a threat to security

>>would you let the police in

i have nothing to hide like you, i respect the police, if you have something to hide you should worry my house is clean im a good citizen
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>>139948903
>im pretty sure the officer knows the law better than you
The video proves otherwise. I know the law is that due to "a US Supreme Court ruling in 2016, which affirms that a blood sample cannot be taken without patient consent or a warrant", the policeman didn't.

Protip: If the police say you are under arrest but can't immediately say under what charges - they don't know what the fuck they are doing.
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>>139950921

Wow, Skinners a pretty big guy
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>>139947147
>>139946861

It's not my fault, I vas just following orders!
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>>139949643
>she was trying to be a smartass
WTF is wrong with you? She's is not being a smartass, she is calming explaining the agreement in place between the hospital and the police.
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>>139950925
>nothing to hide, nothing to fear

literally the worst defence of law and order. kill yourself.

what happens when they make your favourite hobby illegal? or come for your firearms?

will you be so in love with the police then?
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>>139945438
People have been dicks to me hundreds of times in my life. I fail to see why this deserves any special attention. Because it was recorded? Because a cop did it? I don't care. Fuck off. Four niggers once surrounded me and punched my head into the cement until I was bleeding from my ears. Why isn't the country talking about that.
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>>139950721
pretty sure police knows the law more than you

>>139950723
why wouldnt he respect the police?? dumbass they are there to protect him, serves him right getting arrested. if he doesnt respect the police he probably doesnt respect the law and he will commit crime, its good to take caution and remove possible threat i say good work
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>>139946861
>I told them we wanted to blood sample to protect him, not punish him

If cops go after you, nothing derived from them can ever be used in your favour, only against.
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>>139950925
yeah well you're a faggot who can't google. This dude's LE career is over. The fucking Washington Post reported that he's on leave, and his actions were directly against a Supreme Court ruling from some years ago. RIP his career, press S to spit on it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/01/this-is-crazy-sobs-utah-hospital-nurse-as-cop-roughs-her-up-arrests-her-for-doing-her-job/
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>>139951162
Archived that https://archive.is/G7YCj
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Why cant I get falsely arrested while at work.
It must be this what they call the american dream.
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>>139951193
Nogre bro. How are ya?
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>2017
>/nu/pol is actually defending a woman refusing orders from a cop
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>>139951248

>why can't I be falsely arrested at work

Because you don't have a job, Gunter.
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>>139947234
>>139947529
Antifags detected
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>>139950600
She was detained for five minutes. Big fucking deal. If this was somehow the worst day of her life then I hope she gets hit by a car to make up for the pampered existence she's had thus far
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You people just figured out that cops are dicks? I knew that when I was 10 years old, and I have a lot of respect for police. Without the police, civilization wouldn't exist as we know it. But, power corrupts, and cops are human. Fact of life. Cops like most everyone else need limits, supervision, and counseling. This guy is just another dick with a badge. He probably got a little carried away because he was trying to protect the victim, who was a cop.
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>>139951313
Jokes on you, I actually type this while at work Mr. BigMac
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>>139950806
you will never become part of greatest country, you are just low scum criminal forever once a criminal always a criminal

>>139950933
i doubt it. the policeman wouldnt act against the law, he is there to uphold it, even if he sometimes has to twist some things he is doing it out of good for society. she should have complied with the request of th eofficer. god bless america

>>139951037
she is smartass for arguing with authority, she should have listened but instead she spoke against someone thats trying to help you and our citizens

>>139951055
looks like i was right you have something to hide. my favorite hobby is not to speak against the police im a law obiding citizen, i respect them because that catch criminals i hate apologists like you that let off criminals off the hook. 41% of americans under age of 23 have been arrested at least once and instead of building prisons you'd rather have them disrespect authoriy. people like you should be lockled up

my favorite hobby is to serve my country and protect my people from bad people, police share my hobby
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>>139950870
That a policeman's bodycam - you think hospital workers are free to reach into the boot (trunk) of police cars?

I guess that's make you a retard calling another person a retard calling another person a retard?
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>>139950987
see
>>139950569
>>139950587

>>139951113
Eh, for the most part you're right.
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>>139951450
Oh shit you sure BTFOd him. Im sure being a NEET is a tough job
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>>139951435
Mongolia has cops?
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>>139947557
The law states quite clearly that a law enforcement officer cannot draw blood from someone unless that person is under arrest, gives their consent or the cop has a warrant.
The guy was unconscious so he couldn't give consent, he wasn't suspected of anything so there was no probable cause for a warrant and he certainly wasn't under arrest.

The nurse WAS respecting the law you dunce.
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>>139947295
ci·vil·ian
səˈvilyən
noun
1.
a person not in the armed services or the police force

Weird!
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>>139951634
take your insulin ragiewagie
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>>139951584
Well shit, I can admit when I'm wrong. They were both bodycams.
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>>139951793

I sent your posts/ID to your boss at mr bigmac
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>>139951875
no
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>>139950587
In the US it is illegal to obey unlawful orders.
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>>139952015

Apologize and I'll retract the email
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>>139945438
>http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/a-utah-nurse-has-been-dragged-from-her-hospital-after-refusing-to-allow-detective-to-break-the-law/news-story/2d6d36401f67192245725f1fa6f88ef0

as a nurse, i hope he gets pounded with a few hundred AIDS-infected penises in prison
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>>139945438
Cop fucked up.
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>>139951561

Guys.... Stop feeding this troll lol
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>>139950587
Of course.
I see "following orders" as quite different from "getting permission".

Getting permission: Do something with permission, I consider myself responsible/accountable.
Following orders: Get's tricky here... what I can say is when I am doing this in my line of work if that it appears to be a questionable order is that I get some paperwork on file that makes it look argueably reasonable and put it in a folder labelled "Cover-your-ass".
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>>139947147
Regardless of his supervisor saying so,it's against the law, and officers are supposed to know the fucking law.

American Police, everyone.
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>>139951793
B- but anon im NEET too
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Wouldn't it be a violation of the HIPPA law if she complied with law enforcement?

I hope she gets a few million for her troubles.
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>>139947147
lol.
The old "he was just follwing orders" tripe.
You really don't deserve to be American. You have no idea what it means.
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>>139947147
very old saying in the law. ignorance of the law is no excuse. and she very clearly printed it out for him. the only thing he deserves is AIDS-infected penis prison time.
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>>139947147
you're a fairly stupid motherfucker, aren't you?
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>>139947557
well, the cop was the only being a criminal here - trying to intimidate a nurse into breaking the law.
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>>139951856
FWIW I was all ready to admit I was wrong as I watched that youtube video - and then when he reached in the boot it felt like striking gold :) !
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>>139945438

Since when do Caniggers get to decide who is American or not?

That aside, the cop is a scumbag for the way he manhandled that nurse.There was no need for it whatsoever. She wasn't even physically resisiting.
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>>139952191
She was following orders - the order of the federal and state laws, plus the training from the hospital. You might think of nurses and healthcare workers in general as dumbasses in scrubs but they actually train these people (especially the higher ups, such as her supervisor) on this shit. The legal liability for fucking it up is huge.

The cop was 100% in the wrong, they don't get to make up the laws. Dude is gonna get shitcanned and probably sued.

Low effort troll thread
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>>139951426
5 minutes is 5 minutes being detained under no suspicion of a crime, homie. That's not legal any way you try to cut it.
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>>139952451
face it, nurses will be the only americans fighting for your rights when the shit goes down
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Look 90% of the time when these dindus cry about brutality I think the cop is right. It this case he was wrong as fuck. On top of it, if you watch hit body can he has some butch fit and tells his buddy he will "just bring transients" to this hospital from here on out. What a petty faggot.
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>>139949982

There is no concensus on /pol/ you stupid nigger mongrel. Some people are fascists, some a commies and some a capitalist conservatives or libertarians.

>>139951066

Probably because you shouldn't have been stupid enough to allow yourself end up surrounded by 4 nignogs.

Whats the point in being an American if you aren't making use of your god given rights to defend yourself.
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>>139945438
I don't understand why they didn't just taze or shoot her in the leg when they had her cuffed, they could have then gone and got the blood, semen and poo sample if they wanted.
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black guy gets shot by a cop, everyone sides with the cop

white woman get arrested everyone sides with the white woman

really makes you think
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>>139952272
>I hope she gets a few million for her troubles.
Me too.

That nurse has a duty to her patients first and foremost and she was fulfilling that duty.
That fucking cop arrested a health care provider who was following the law to the letter.
Fuck him, pay her.
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>>139950248
>I'll just let these cops fuck my wife and eat my food because they told me to be a fucking sissy faggot
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>>139953113

>t. Never been around nurses

She just wanted the attention, regardless of if she was right or not, don't feed into their virtue signaling cycle.
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>>139952867
Because that is not the way things work, or at least supposed to work here in the US. Usually any evidence collected like that will not be useable in court. Nice bait though
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>>139953201
I'm married to a nurse you fucking retard.
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>>139953574

Why'd you go and do that to yourself?
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>>139951276
yes we must always listen to the geheime staatspolizei even if they are in the wrong
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>>139953027
Or could be that the cases are different?
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>>139953574
You get cucked by doctors almost every single day.
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Cops are the niggers of government, you're just now realizing this?
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>>139953969
Stop watching soap operas.
Hospitals aren't like TV you dunce.
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>>139952683
Well antifa riots have shown that police fucking won't
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>>139954254
prove your wife hasn't cheated on you
you can't
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>>139946835
Hey if your this good at splitting hairs could you come over and help me split wood for winter?
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>>139954254

Do you work in healthcare yourself or do you only know what your wife tells you?
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>>139946046

Underrated
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>>139945438

It doesnt make any sense. 99% of LEOs know the drill. It weird that the cop isnt a young guy on his first week on job. Laws are clear on this type of thing and doctors are strict on rules. If he had gone to her boss he would have got same response.
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>>139954833

>North Korean
>"rights"
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>>139954833
(You)
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>>139950987
kek
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>>139948180
>I don't know what that would prove
That the guy got in the crash completely sober and sterile so he can't blame it on a DUI?
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>>139954833
>YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG SO IM GOING TO ARREST YOU BECAUSE MY FEELS
fucking cuck.
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>>139954451
how could anyone ot know that, it's practically the law that doctors fuck the nurses, paramedics all fuck each other as well
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>>139955264

>uh yea herro preez? Chairman here offer you one-a hundred frower, you terr awr about prans and me forgive
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>>139955566

Checked but I think you replied to the wrong guy.
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>>139954970
>It doesnt make any sense.
It does when you realize that drug metabolism is a thing and the asshat wanted his "under the influence" charge. Looks good on his record.

MUH DRUGS strikes again!
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>>139953611
Because the average /pol/ life of broke NEET fondling jobless hambeast wasn't as appealing i reckon
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>>139956092

I actually get paid to place IVs and waste a junkie's ransom in Morphine into a metal sink. I love my job.
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>>139945950
For the most part, that's true. But in this case, the detective's actions were unjustified. What really worries me is states like California, where constitutional rights are being eroded and the cops are nothing more than hypocritical dogs of the state. A commie state like CA can order cops to go full UK Class-S and they'll follow those orders like good little toy soldiers collecting a paycheck
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>>139949643
Oh shut the fuck up
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>>139948137
>The police were responsible of the death of the retard they were chasing and wanted someone to pin it on (The burnt comatose victim).

I haven't been following this story closely, other than the arrest of the nurse.

Is that what's behind their manhandling of her to get the blood sample?
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>>139950594

What in the name of Christ are you on about? How is this nurse a criminal you twat? She was following the policy of her workplace and the FUCKING LAW! She is an RN and all they do, day in and day out is follow procedure and other guide lines as stipulated on their freaking registration!
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>>139957939
Sorry. We have an infection of "law abiding citizens" in this country that love the taste of cop dick.

Pay her no mind.
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>>139946244
In more & more states though it is required to have a bachelors degree at a minimum, and more are even requiring that the degree be in criminal justice.
Where I live you have to either have the bachelors degree or have prior military service in order to be considered.
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>>139945438
Yeah, it's a wrongful arrest. Just seethe. Go to court and win your lawsuit. Don't fight and then get a legitimate charge of resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer.
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>>139958116

>criminal justice
>not a literal pup tent program
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>>139958194
What does that mean?
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>>139958116
Have you seen the absolute state of college alumni in this country lately? You know all those jerkoffs ripping statues down and fighting and rioting over "nazis"?
A bachelor's degree is meaningless today.
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>>139958067

Not quite sure as to what your alluding to there....

:/
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>>139957398
burn victim was an adjunct police officer, one of those "not on payroll" but still friends with everyone dudes. they were trying to cover up in case he was drunk.
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>>139958259

It was created out of apparent demand not necessity; think for-profit education models. Even med tech programs have more legitimacy.
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>>139958384

>Pepe letting a ghost drive

Fake news
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>>139958320
Yeah, and that is very unfortunate, but if that is the case then the statement should have been "barely make it out of college." Makes you wonder how education is going to evolve in this country in the next 40 years or so.

>>139958394
I can see how that works. Thanks for elaborating.
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>>139958678

If you wanna look at it one way it's just another useless hiring sieve that won't actually ensure find you competent people and only *possibly* might weed out lazy applicants.
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>>139947147
>being this much of a cuck
the west is beyond repair
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>>139958330
I mean there's a sizable portion of our population that cannot think for themselves and assume cops are always in the right, because MUH BADGE MUH LAW. Reason is a rare gift here.

>>139958678
>Makes you wonder how education is going to evolve in this country in the next 40 years or so.
It's going to devolve. It's a race to the bottom. Hence text/nigger grammar making their way into normal speech/writing.
Even here among so-called "red pilled" individuals.
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>>139958923

You should start reading about etymology and get a better understanding of how thuggishly dumb Middle English/Anglo-Norman french/high German were.
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>>139945438
Yeah that cop's going to burn, especially because it was recorded and there were multiple other hospital staff witnesses. She was clearly being told by a superior how to enforce policy in a lawful way, and he was physically rough with her. Unnecessary arrest, unnecessary use of force. This tool just ended his career.

Also, fuck OP for being a leaf and a "well wut now bootlickers" poster. Fuck offf you leftist shill piece of shit, you probably spam blacked porn and post with a homo flag the rest of the time. kys.
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>>139945438
Some cops are drunk with power, he have to be fired ASAP
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>>139958794
The older I get the old adage "It's not what you know. It's who you know." makes more and more sense.
Where I work almost all the employees were hired based on their relationships with former employees and a good word put in for them, not their educational background.

>>139958923
>It's going to devolve. It's a race to the bottom.
Sounds very grim. Let's hope something comes along to help keep a future like that away, for all our sake.
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>>139959028
I know. But I'd think we'd be beyond such trite and lowly babble by now, at least in normal conversation.

I like to joke sometimes myself, but the amount of crap I see posted here these days make me believe it's becoming the norm to act a fool.

>>139959139
It'll correct itself, but the cost will most likely run high. Remember, the more extreme a problem becomes, the more extreme the solution needs to be.
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>>139945438
The director of the department was a little late to come and confront the cop
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>>139962741
maybe he was to busy serving people in need to come and try to communicate with the state goon
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>>139950752
They take him to the er and get a warrant. This guy wasn't "found behind the wheel". There was a ca chase. The car chase ended in a fiery crash. Car chase suspect died, guy in the hospital was an innocent victim. Police are trying to pin the responsibility on the victim
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>>139945867
a lot of cops are ex military so theyre stupid and aggressive. that being said theyre pretty chill in my small little town, i used to work in a bar and we'd have to call them like 3 times a week. funny enough the only overly aggressive ones ive ever had to deal with were the females.
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>>139946415
>Apparently the cop wanted to grab his blood so that he can prove later that there was no drugs in his system during the crash.

Lol no that makes no sense. It's "prove there were drugs in his system" not "prove there WEREN'T drugs in his system." If he was trying to protect him he would be against any test that could prove anything, because nothing would hold up in court without it.

Cop was trying to cover his department's ass because if the victim was drunk then he can't blame the cops for the crash.

Ths volunteer deputy thing doesn't matter, he was a deputy in another state, LE departments hate each other the good old boys club only extends so far, definitely not across state lines and not for a fucking volunteer.
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>>139946415
cops dont prove innocence
everything can and will be used AGAINST you
union will walk (run) away from this pig, he's a nobody who moonlights as an EMT
his life is over
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>>139946437
He was a vampire and the guy looked tasty.
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>the police is necessary
>the police is useful
>the police has your best interests in mind

I can't wait for all of you commie/nazi/democrat bootlicker cucks to die in a cataclism so that Libertarianism can rise from the ashes.
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We're taught to be arrested orderly, and she was mad about it. Also why not just draw his blood? Sue the cops later. If you're right, you'll win. Take out a loan for the lawsuit and you'll get that money back eventually.

That's my best attempt at defending this.

>Drawing an unconscious man's blood
>no warrant
>nurse responds, "why n-n-o officer i would lose my job!"

Simple shit. The chief apologized too which should mean something.
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>>139969021
Police unions are working to paint police critique as anarchism

People who loosely express it online are taken literally and are assumed to be anarchists against the entire idea of needing a police force

The unions rub their greedy hands because they painted the other side (i.e. the people who call for better standards and those who don't lick boot) as anarchists and they know the bootlickers will never see them as anyone other than anarchists

Kinda the same thing with other things going on. One side sees a convoluted stereotype of a stereotype of one group while the other sees a magical pony princess and communication is effectivelly killed thanks to some overlords, or the real but fucked up abstract connection that we make in geopolitics but is such a fucking mess. Some 5th dimension being takes a shit and causes WW3 I wouldn't cry
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>>139970219

What's so bad about being labelled as an anarchist?
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>>139947147
>police can stop you from doing your job, put cuffs on you, put you in the cop car and bring you to the station
>but nothing is wrong with that if they don't arrest you
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>>139969957
I know you're kind of playing devil's advocate but incriminating evidence found while breaking the law can't be used in court anyway. The reality of the situation is this man has probably taken advantage of people who don't know the laws every day for his entire career and this one woman who both knew and had the courage to stand up to him sent him over the edge. Cops are not on the streets for "justice." They are there to bring in as many people to be prosecuted as possible. They are not your friends and don't have your best interests in mind no matter how many times they tell you this. This is why you should never talk to them without a lawyer even when you're innocent.
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>People saying the Nurse was a smart ass

Had anyone at that hospital consented to giving them him blood, they would have not only been fired but lost their license to practice under a severe hipaa violation.

You get fucked for just giving away information you don't have the authority to, giving away property or bodily fluids is even harder penalty.
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>>139947147
except its not legal to detain someone for no reason. The nurse is legally obligated to obtain consent before taking blood from someone. The cops request was not legitimate.
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>>139945438
She should've passed this off to a supervisor or a patient advocate. She could've easily had someone higher than her contact the sheriffs department, and talk to the supervisor on duty. I don't agree with what that fat slob of an officer did..... but she could've easily passed off the responsibility.
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>>139969957
>just disobey the law because some stupid fuck asked you too!
>Not resisting an unlawful arrest

cops must follow the law just as citizens do. They are not above reproach.
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>>139945438
I'm just waiting for it to come out that she was related to the person pretending to be unconscious. Then all you niggers will crawl away and be silent.
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>>139971396
she literally did. Did you even watch the video? She had the hospital administrator come down and try to reason with the officer while he was guffawing and dragging an innocent person through their doors.

Are you fucking retarded?
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>>139945867

>Want power
>Become cop
>Become accustomed to being in the position of power in most encounters
>Be in a situation where you really aren't for once and someone tells you no
>REEEEE YOU'RE ARRESTED

Chick's gonna get rich on the taxpayer's dime
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>>139971857
Still wouldn't make it legal, chief.
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>>139947557
Meme flaggot says respect the lawdog.
Defends cop that arrests nurse for respecting the law.
Fuck you,statist defender of traitors and racists.
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>>139971901
Again she still didn't pass off the responsibility.... all she had to do was have his supervisor contacted. I was a medic for 20 years i'm quite familiar with hospital protocol. You were not going to win an argument with a belligerent officer. And the person that didn't come down that was on the phone I would've told him to get the fat ass downstairs.
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>>139958829
look who's talking
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>>139972399
the guy dragged her off in a matter of seconds. She had no chance to de-escalate the situation because he resulted to brute force right from the get go. Where is your head at that you're justifying police brutality because the nurse didn't act apologetic enough?

>Hurr fucking niggers killing people is white peoples fault
>hurr we provoke terrorism by hating muslims
>hurr he provoked him by not deferring to someone else

you're a retarded illogical piece of shit
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>>139947529
Fuck off, anarchist
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The real redpill is that cops and niggers are equally harmful to white americans. Its a hard one to swallow because cops used to be our ally in like the fucking 60s but not anymore
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Our governments are our enemies, and the police are the servants of our enemies.

#bluelivesmatter is a crock of shit. How many times have we seen our groups infiltrated by provocateur agents to undermine and break up opposition? How many more times do we need to learn the hard way that the police and "security" services infringe our rights and break our supposed iron-clad laws to have their way whenever it suits them?

Until we eventually triumph and overcome our opposition do not trust the police, and treat them for what they are: our enemies.

Believe you me, as someone who works within these organisations, the police are not your friend and they do not have your best interests at heart.
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>>139947147
You're probably underage but hospitals or clinics won't release a record or let alone live samples without a warrant or express consent from the patient.
t. worked in medical records, we told people to fuck off all the time
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>>139958116
To become a low-level street cop? Bullshit.
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Do not forget the Salt Lake PD did nothing but 'start in internal investigation' until the video was made public.
One must think they were waiting in the hope the public did not find out.
Every cop there is a power tripping bully...or criminal if you will.
"There is no situation so bad it cannot be made worse by the presence of a policeman."
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>>139946835
How about the dirty cop saying, "you are under arrest".
Try to keep up.
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>>139945867
The police in Utah were involved in a high speed pursuit of possible drunk driver. Fleeing suspect crossed into oncoming traffic, and struck semi. Suspect died, the man driving semi was burned to a crisp, in a coma, but alive. Cops undoubtedly wanted to mitigate any financial legal responsibility from any potential law suit, thus draw blood, and see if driver had any perks in his system, thus limiting their liability. It's not standard procedure to draw blood from an innocent party, in a road accident. This was purely self serving on the police departments actions.
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>>139947147
She was arrested, the cop said so. Just because he thought he could change his mind later on doesn't make it so.
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>>139947147
You are a fucking retard and can't even listen to the words "You are under arrest" by the cop. You are a failure in all you do I bet you sad sack of shit.
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>>139945438
I'm a nurse, she did the right thing (professionally and ethically) by not allowing the cop to take the blood.
-No warrant
-Can't obtain consent from an unconscious person

I respect the police for upholding the law (or trying to anyway) but if you're going to pull moves like this, fuck you, seriously, fuck you.
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>>139975912
No one asked your opinion Florence.

Men are speaking.
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Yup, no citizen rights in the USA, what a dump
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>>139973083
the problem is that a large portion of the police force are under -educated failures and go into the police force as a result of being unable to provide any other useful benefit to society. I know a bunch of backward thinking young cops who tried to go to college but were too dumb to make it. This is true across the armed forces as well. We really should have increased requirements for these positions of power so people aren't aggressive ignorant pieces of shit
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>>139973577
except you'll still make around 70-80k and have a cushy as fuck pension. You should need to be educated just to keep out the riff raff from the police force
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>>139973577
The idea is to move up the chain to detective etc
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>>139948486
normally they draw blood and send it to the lab

once its tested for clinical purposes someone can pick it up later. I don't understand why they don't draw blood on unconscious patients though
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>>139945438
Oh gee it's another 'I better hate cops without knowing all the facts' thread. YA FUCK OFF
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>>139979728
Because you can't search someone without consent, probable cause, or a warrant

His blood would also have drugs in it because the hospital gives various painkillers
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>>139945438

>leaf
>telling us what it means to be American

Good one
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>>139980011
except we know the facts, and he was fucking wrong
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>>139975912
If the person was behind the wheel when apprehended he waived consent when he got in the car. Try to keep up.
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>>139945438
Who cares about human rights?!?
It's murica!!!!!
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> ITT: Consent isn't a thing
How's the taste of rubber of Tyrone's semen, policefags?
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>>139951646
Mongolia has a government?
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>>139971396
He could have just gone to his supervisors to push for the same warrant she required and gotten the blood without issue.
Those requirements are in place to protect the patient - the person they should both be working in the best interest of. If the cop had legitimate reason to request the blood then it would have been simple to go through the proper channels. This dickbag knew he had a shit reason behind the request and that he'd never get a warrant so his only hope was to bully the nurse into submission. I'm sure it usually works on most people.
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>>139970363
>What's so bad about sucking nigger dick?
FTFY
>>
Law enforcement is not the problem; it's just that it needs to be reformed so that there are higher requirements to be a cop while also not giving commission on tickets/arrest.
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>>139945438
A real AMERICAN, such as myself, would have whipped that fat cops ass for assault on the Olympic HERO nurse, and then placed him under citizen's arrest and in his own handcuffs. I defend the CONSTITUTION from all enemies, foreign and domestic. The only real enemies of the Constitution work for our own government. I say all of that with the confidence that it will never happen when I'm around because this shit is rare.
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>>139982482
Doesn't even need that. All that is really needed is oversight and real, tangible punishment for wrongdoing.
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>cop gets lectured about the mistake he is currently committing (attacking the messenger)
>cop continues on
Humans are like robots lmao. Extinction in 2k18 baby
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>>139981842
Too bad for this retard that Medical Staff are actually educated and KNOW that they'd be the ones losing their license and jobs while these fat fucking cops would just shake their hands and go "WE didn't know what we did was illegal, that was THEIR job!"
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>>139983861
>oversight
IAD is shit! Muh fat-ternal brotherhood! RATSRATSRATS
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>>139946960
You never were at a party that was broken up by cops? Never got stopped and asked for your ID with a bullshit rationale of "there have been _____ type of crimes in this area"? You were never in a car as passenger and been asked for ID when the driver was pulled over on a pretext such as speeding but no ticket issued? I don't think you get out much, your real world inexperience disqualifies you from having an opinion on police interaction.
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>>139945438
>t.afuckingleaf
i dont even disagree with you but know your place faggot
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>>139945438
/pol/ is full of normie boot licker dcum.
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>>139947132
What kind of weird asiatic is that, looks like my grandpa. Fucking Irish niggers.
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>>139947132
Grandpafuckface
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