"The problem here is that being a Nazi or a Klansman means

sounds like Marxism/communism/talmudism...

>>139813181
Said the Nazi

>>139812591
>"The problem here is that being a Nazi or a Klansman means endorsing murder and racial subjugation as a fundamental cornerstone of your beliefs

And Marxists endorse murder and violent revolutionary upheaval, why aren't you chasing them for their inherently violent views?

>This is not about attempting to impose restrictions on free speech as a concept.

Of course it is.

>There is no concerted effort to do that, because nobody wants that

Of course you do! The entire point of hate speech laws - which IS what you want - is to ensure that political discussion remains within a narrow band that is vigorously policed by the Left; with all opinions outside said narrow band being declared doubleplusungood

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>>139812591
>Stop the hate
>Kill Whitey

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>>139813573
No. White Supremacists are attempting to use the phrase "free speech" to justify their message of hate, under the assumption that opposing their specific message is somehow tantamount to opposing free speech as a principle. Which is bullshit and incorrect.

Counterprotesters are protesting their hateful message, not free speech as a concept. "Free speech" doesn't mean you get a free pass from all consequences of what you say. Nor does it mean that other people are obligated to help you spread your message if they disagree with it. That's really the point here.

This whole "free speech" thing the Nazis/Klansmen are claiming is a childish ruse; the equivalent of saying "hey, what's that behind you?" during an argument.

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>>139813960
There is no such thing as hate speech, stop sounding like such a pussy

>>139813960
>"Free speech" doesn't mean you get a free pass from all consequences of what you say
No, but it means you are legally protected to say whatever you want to say. Welcome to America. Get the fuck out if you don't like the constitution.

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>>139814117
If it's "just speech", then why are people being killed by Nazis and Klansmen?

Why was that crowd of counter-protesters (exercising THEIR free speech) run over by a car?

Why have people been beat and lynched for decades for having the "wrong" skin color?

The point is that this isn't "just speech", which is why so many people are metaphorically (or increasingly literally) up-in-arms over it. People's lives are quite literally being threatened (and often taken).

And as the whole point of this article/post explains, "free speech" and "hate speech" are not mutually inclusive of one another. Active threats against people's lives is not protected (e.g. shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre), and passive threats deserve all the social resistance that can be mustered.

If you want to argue that it's legal for Nazis/Klansmen to openly march and threaten black people, then it's also legal for us to say that's bullshit, as loudly and as persistently as we can.

>>139813960
>under the assumption that opposing their specific message is somehow tantamount to opposing free speech as a principle

There's a difference between protesting the expression of those views, and using state or other means to ruthlessly suppress the expression of those views - the latter action being the ones that "Nazi speech isn't free speech" claimants want.

>"Free speech" doesn't mean you get a free pass from all consequences of what you say.

Of course it fucking does, that's the entire fucking point. Christ, that's some Pravda-tier delusion
>"Free speech is protected by the USSR! By which I mean you can vocally express your dissent with the Soviet regime - however, you will get thrown in a gulag for doing so, comrade."

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>>139813960
>Counterprotesters are protesting their hateful message, not free speech as a concept.

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>>139812591
>punch nazis
>raise the black flag of jihad

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>>139814384
>If it's "just speech", then why are people being killed by Nazis and Klansmen?

Should the Black Lives Matter movement be banned because that nutcase ambushed and killed multiple police officers?

>The point is that this isn't "just speech", which is why so many people are metaphorically (or increasingly literally) up-in-arms over it. People's lives are quite literally being threatened (and often taken).

So you want Marxism to be vigorously persecuted? Because it's had a much higher death toll than anything Hitler and his fanboys can claim.

>and passive threats deserve all the social resistance that can be mustered.

It's good we can agree that the various people making threats against Dubya should've been arrested

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

>>139814384
>Why was that crowd of counter-protesters (exercising THEIR free speech) run over by a car?
And he's being charged with a crime. Also, you said, ""Free speech" doesn't mean you get a free pass from all consequences of what you say", and those people exercising their free speech suffered the consequences. Which is it? Is free speech protected or did they do people who exercise it deserve to suffer consequences? Double standards much? You're contradicting yourself.

>and passive threats deserve all the social resistance that can be mustered.
This is an opinion that has nothing to do with the first amendment. Leave America if you don't like it.

>then it's also legal for us to say that's bullshit, as loudly and as persistently as we can.
Of course it is.

The problem here is that being a Jew means endorsing usury and financial subjugation as a fundamental cornerstone of your beliefs. Blood libel and debt slavery are not isolated acts from radicalized members. The entire race is greedy. You can't say their beliefs are "just business", as they have centuries (if not millenia) of precedent to prove their proclivity for racial and social violence against the gentiles. Their tenets are fully incompatible with society as a whole, and do not deserve the same political leeway as one's opinions on income tax. It's actually quite inspiring that counter-protestors have been as generally peaceful as they have, given that the opposition wants them indebted (or worse) out of sheer, hateful principle.

>>139814384

If it's not a direct threat of violence, it's fair game. You have every right to call Nazis on their bullshit, but when you have splinter leftist groups calling for peace and understanding and they ALSO do heinous shit for "a good reason" they inflame the right leaning people who already eye roll leftist stuff.

It only takes the rotten few to portray a bad picture, which just emboldens the Nazis and gives them pseudo-support from reasonable right leaners.

>>139814384
You're claiming a moral equivalence between Milo Yiannopoulos and the murders committed by 1960s Klansmen in Mississippi. This makes you look like a fucking moron. Next question?

>>139814384
The biggest domestic terrorists in America were Communists.
Just like the ones who are assaulting "ebil nazzies" (Anybody who disagrees with their point of view is a nazi).
Quit trying to excuse antifa. They are un-American and consider patriotism a sign of nationalism, and consider nationalism as a sign as fascism. So disagreeing with them means you are a "fascist". What side burns more American flags? The "EBIL NAZZIES" or the "anti-fascists"?
"B-but muh WWII vets, attacking EBIL NAZZIES is what they did" Yea and how many US vets have been attacked at these rallies by antifa for being on the wrong side of their ideological fence?

I can't wrap my head around how MSM and the cuckservitives rushed to defend LITERAL VIOLENT ANARCHIST COMMUNISTS, I hope they get whats coming in the end for them.

lmao OP ran away. cognitive dissonance is a bitch.

>>139812591
why cant people clean their dreads? always super nasty. i hate dreads but jesus if you are going to have them at least have some fucking hygene too... fucking subhuman

>>139814117
The difference is they don't label it white or Christian terrorism even when it obviously is

>>139812591
Sounds like communists and muslims.

>>139812591
>endorsing murder and racial subjugation as a fundamental cornerstone of your beliefs
The
Holocaust
Never
Happened

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3 holocaust deniers in this thread.

Nice.

Really proving me wrong, you racist psychos.

>>139813181
Fpfb

>>139812591
>The problem here is that being a sunni or a shiite means endorsing murder and racial subjugation as a fundamental cornerstone of your beliefs. Violence and murder are not isolated acts from radicalized members. The entire movement is radicalized. You can't say their beliefs are "just speech", as they have decades (if not centuries) of precedent to prove their proclivity for racial and social violence. Their tenets are fully incompatible with society as a whole, and do not deserve the same political leeway as one's opinions on income tax. It's actually quite inspiring that counter-protesters have been as generally peaceful as they have, given that the opposition wants them dead (or worse) out of sheer, hateful principle.

This is not about attempting to impose restrictions on free speech as a concept. There is no concerted effort to do that, because nobody wants that. Opposing Nazi ideology IS NOT the same as opposing "free speech", assuming Nazi ideology even qualifies given that it is basically terrorism. Opposing murderous, bigoted ideology can be done using legal and Constitutional means, which is exactly what is happening here

>>139816248
If the holocaust never happened, National Socialism isn't an inherently violent ideology, and you don't have an argument.

>>139812591
Hmm, in the past 30 years how many people have been killed either by Nazis or Klansmen?

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>>139812591
>Their tenets are fully incompatible with society as a whole
I could say the same thing about any political movement in history that has resulted in loss of life. What your talking about is called "thought crime". That's all the protest movement is about. Your not fooling anyone with this "it's all about Nazi's" bullshit. Your communist bs will not be tolerated in the U.S. Why do you always resort to >muh-nazi's, but will never address the suffering that communism has inflicted on the world? Hypocrite. Meanwhile the protester movement is flying communist flags and calling for the destruction of everything Americans find value in. Fuck off with your mind control bullshit, if you cant grow a pair and deal with the fact that people see things differently than you do your not fit to live in a free society. The Nazi movement doesn't even have a political party, your making something out of virtually nothing.

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>>139816248
>>>/r/eddit

>>139812591
>i love queer immigrants sign

Top lel

>>139813291
stfu you stupid fascist antifascist nazi

>>139813181
That's the point OP is making, Marxism is just as bad if not worse

>>139813181
This, it's just 2 paragraphs of hebraic kvetching. Sage

>>139812591
>endorsing murder and racial subjugation as a fundamental cornerstone of your beliefs.
That is what (((progressivism))) is about and it's against whites in white countries. The KKK and National Socialists were only ever playing DEFENSE; trying to protect their way of life and people; trying to survive.

>>139812591
The problem with censoring far right opinions is that it is a slippery slope. After they censor the far right they can then begin justifying reasons for people near the center to be censored as well.