What do north american white nationalists think of native people?

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>>139751088
Natives? You amerindians killed them all off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorset_culture
Yo uare asian mongrels, you are not white and should be removed, much like most Americans.

uhm i don't really have a good answer. i'm not any kind of serious white nationalist, apparently. i guess ask richard spencer since he seems to be the go-to person for this kind of stuff.

fifth political theory, while highly controversial, is the most realistic and most red-pilled, basically you gotta be post national and there will be a great collapse eventually, so focus on families and tribes, out of that, eventually nations can be built from the ruins. I'm guessing this is on like a 50 to 100 year timeline, so, quite a few generations. Building the communities is more important than trying to right the ship nation-wide. I mean, there are things that can be done at the federal level... but most of all the battle is about building a future for each individual blood line and then communities that are pro-white and self-segregate. I imagine they have no problem with the natives keeping their reservations.

https://fifthpolitical.wordpress.com/

>>139752471
it looks kind of like allen gibsburg if he were alive today and became a tranny (of course!)

>>139751088
>I think we should cede the entirety of North America to my family.
>it is only fair that my immediate family has absolute right to every resource in America.
>No one else is allowed to occupy any portion of America in case I want to hunt or fish on it anywhere at anytime.
>I don't need to defend this.
>all of America is mine, and you have no right to question it.
>please leave now.

I'm serious. Get the fuck out. America belongs to me and my family only.

>>139752471
My understanding is the evidence points to them simply dying out due to failing to adapt their society to a significant change in the environment.

>>139753620
The thing that bothers me about alt-right and white nationalism, whether its fourth political theory, fifth political theory, or something entirely different, is that all this pro-white and anti-white stuff being pushed, on both sides, could very easily be to the advantage of Russia and/or China (or any other foreign enemy, Israel, but that is a unique relationship)

The Russia collusion angle is bullshit, but honestly... if you view the 1960s as both Russian and CIA operations running in competition (weather underground, black panthers, LSD on the streets, etc) think about what has been going on since then and whether all this revival of USSR Marxist/Leninism doesn't reek of the old russia, while the white nationlism (much like Ukraine nationalists) each have their own version of pro-white ethnic nationalism (as much as you want to make fun of slavs, it doesn't matter, their communities are tough)

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>>139752471
I have to do this every thread, but not only the obvious evidence claims that you are wrong, but the archeological evidence too.

>>139753899
Some information can be inferred from Inuit legends, archaeology and the genetic studies mentioned above. The Thule were a strong people, and they had better weapons than the Dorset. And while some Inuit elders describe peaceful relationships between the two groups, others indicate the presence of conflict.[7] As there was almost no interbreeding between them, social interactions did not appear to go much beyond trading. Although archaeological evidence indicates that the Dorset were in steep decline when the Thule arrived,[citation needed] conflicts with the Inuit would have hastened that decline.

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>>139751088
Whites are the native rulers of America

I just think we're past caste systems, but if you insist...

>>139754155
Sure the dorsets and some of the other cultures I can't recall were there before the amerindians.

>>139754329
Monte verde it's in south chile and predates those by 2000 years.

Go ahead explain how they got here and no one else did, until the spanish arrived.

>>139751088 (heil'd)

I like that they keep to themselves and have their own autonomous areas. They all have substance abuse problems though.

>>139754587
Never claimed that no one came, I claim that there were people before you asns came and you replaced them. So hard to understand that? The finest example would be the Dorsets.

>>139754328
is that real? thats cool.

>>139754215
>some peaceful interaction, some conflict
So completely normal then.

When I was in high school, many of the students were native because there was a reservation nearby. Close proximity to natives made me hate them, not any white nationalist beliefs. They are just like niggers.

>>139754735
That's why I'm explaining to you that they weren't here before by any means.

European migration to north america did happened but they never reached south america or fully populated the continent like amerindians did, now you can claim they have a right to be here, but it's retarded to claim that they died because the native population decimated them because they could have perfectly died on their own, like euros tend to do.

>>139754904
>bigger population comes over
>has better weapons
>some conflicts
>they start dying out all the sudden
Ever heard of the Avars and how they were wiped out? Or the Amerindians?

>>139751088
We conquered the primitive natives- been done all throughout history

>>139755424
Nope, there were 4 presumed cultures living over the Americas before you came. Much like the Dorsets, they were there no longer after you came.
Also Europe is simply cleaning it's gene pool right now.
And the Dorsets were not Europeans.

>>139751088
Most are fat alcoholics, but some, I assume, are good people.

>>139751088
Well, after they were systematically exterminated, they became a small minority and America became a white country.
Otherwise, they're OK people.

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>>139755999
For fucks sake, a couple of red men turns to booze after their entire culture was decimated by plague and genocide and suddenly every shit you do it's fully justified.

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>>139751088

I'm not a WN but I am extremely redpilled. I have no problems with natvies at all. Never had a bad experience with Natives and I like them as a people.

>>139756360
Your knowledge is so incomplete it fails to grasp any understanding of history. For one, they didn't die like Jews in cattle cars and rollercoasters

>>139756434
The vast majority are obese, fool. Same reason beaners and ocean Asians get fat.

>>139756793
American junk food?

>>139751088
I'll bite the b8.

Native American's are fucking Mongrels and not American in any sense.

American's are of European descent. This country is ours through blood and conquest. They deserve nothing but death.

>>139751088
The natives were not Americans. The state did not exist until the colonists established it.

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>>139757004
Funny but no.

You already failed to make it white land a long time ago.

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>>139751088
Drunken savages that shouldn't even exist. Andrew Jackson should have finished the job.

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>>139754328
>Claiming other's heritage based on mythology
Literal nigger tier

Natives lobby more poorly than any group in America. No one speaks for your interests on a national level. Learn from the dindus on this one, and the incessantly kvetching jews.

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>>139757267
To be fair you didn't destroyed the culture, just took all the good lands when they were dying for the plague and then killed all attempts to recover them using deceit and betrayal.

>>139758105
Ya fuckers just get sick too easily. European germs dindu nuffin.

>>139758296
Hispanics dindu nuffin, you just breed to slowly.

>>139758105
>dying for the plague
>not drought beforehand
The Mayans died out due to Starvation, the wild hogs also destroyed their crops in the other regions.
Your wars also killed off most of you, the plague dinndu nuffin.

>>139751088
I like the natives. Eh seemed like cool guys and didn't afraid of anything.

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>>139758105
It's true, your people got fucked over. But they've since been given all the tools they need to prosper. What have they done with it? Drank fucking listerine and beat their wives.

>>139751088
White people dominated the native culture because they were more advanced. That's why the natives didn't colonize europe first.

>>139753899
In my country Indians have the highest birth rates

>>139754023
My big big worry is that current white nationalism/identitarianism as it stands currently is only unified due to the existence of an external invader enemy

What happens when that enemy is gone or at least pacified? Many euro and anglosphere ethnonationalists have no unifying ideology and widely diverge on economic/trade issues.
- American, Canadian, Swiss and U.K. whites are mostly fiscal libertarian
- Dutch, Irish, scandi, slavic and many French are fiscal centre to centre-left
- Meds are fiscal far-left

Many of these nations also are antagonistic toward pan-white military alliances and the Le Pens have openly attacked NATO and American ties with France. Germans and Brits hate each other. Brits and Irish hate each other. Scots and Brits hate each other

>>139751088
>for most of history, america was not white
Literally incorrect. America as a nation was founded by and for whites.

>>139751088
America started in 1776. Neck yourself

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>>139758666
Chile it's a great country, thanks for asking, I'm sad for the situation of north american tribes, because we know what it took to prevent that situation.

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>>139751088
Exterminate them. And leave the Sherman statues alone, shitlibs. Injuns deserve to die.

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>>139759319
Anon, I'm playing an excursion through South America. What're some good pre-columbian or post-columbian locations in Chile?

>>139758741
Everyone hates Brits except Burgers, Aussies, and Leafs. That's why we're the eternal Anglo alliance.

>>139759635
Go to San Pedro de Atacama.

It's in the middle of the desert but it's comfy as hell (just as hot too).

But for ridiculous ruins do the andes tour in Peru.

>>139759828
Arabs have an illustrative saying: Me against my brothers; my brothers and I against our cousins; we and our cousins against the world. It's sociobiology, kin selection.

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>>139759999
Sweet, thanks Chile-bro.

>>139751088
They have the following options:
1) culturally assimilate in White society
2) live in reservations
3) we can give them a small state

The United States was not built by natives. Sure they lived here before but they got btfo'd. If the United States every becomes an ethnostate I'd let them stay because they're such a small population anyways, but it doesn't really matter because I don't have power.

>>139751088
I think that America belongs to the winners of the battle over America. That was whites, not natives.

We're in another battle right now, but its of a more insidious and subtle nature.

>>139761065
This so much

There was no USA until the whites. The natives never had a government or permanent land. In fact this whole place was pretty much a free for all and wilderness until we made the first proper claims on it, used it, and then defended our claims on it.

>>139751088
Sage in all fields

>>139761405
By the same logic, Whites in California should be raped, killed and stripped of basic rights.

>>139759999
checked

>>139758741
those are all good questions. pan-Europeanism is controversial but I do think it can work. Not all greeks prefer socialism, just because it has thrived (and now decayed) in Greece for decades, doesn't mean it represents the gene-pool of Greece.

>>139759828
yea this is somewhat true, nationalism generally is against these things like NATO, unless they really need it (western Ukraine, Poland, etc) and then in that case it depends on that individual, whether they trust Russia over America and Ameri-allies.

As for natives they're the least problematic in the USA out of all the demographics. They've been eclipsed by Mexicans. For you guys up there, you were way nicer to your natives, had way more of them, put them into boarding schools (albeit controversial now, I dont know the specifics so I dont take a side) but yea the Canadian/British way of dealing with the Natives was wayyyy more complex than the USA policy of natives. You guys worked with them a lot. We never really gave them much of a chance. Also, it is not just a meme, there are probably at least a million whites with some very small fraction of native american DNA. one 1/16th at most, which would mean your great grand parent was half.

>>139761598
are you saying that because it would still belong to Spain?

>>139751088
America was always white. Only whites were allowed to be citizens when the country was first founded. You're conflating the country colloquially known as America with the lands that weren't owned by any countries before it existed.

>>139761683
Whites have lost the subtle war over California. Should they have the same destiny there as Indians (so called Native Americans) in pre-60s America?

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>>139762097
The mestizo is the future, anon.

>>139759828
I fucking hate British people.

>>139762358
I doubt. Genetic engineering and designer babies will make Mexicans Spaniards again (they want it terribly)

The way I see it, Canada is a white nation built on native land, so both whites and natives should be accepted here.

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>>139762845
Wtf mexicans? explain yourselves.

>>139751088
Natives are confirmed Aryan. Honestly, in a hypothetical situation I would probably give them back all of their ancestral lands in the Southwest. There's really nothing there but weird fucking hippies and tourists anyways.

I like the Natives, I've met a good number of them and from my conversations found them to be rather accepting of ethnic nationalism as opposed to globalist/civcuck nationalism because it is of course civcuck nationalism that leads to annihilation of humanity and replaces it with just factorization of human beings.

But there is no such monolithic entity as "NATIVE AMERICANS", the tribes are actually vastly different from one another and many Native tribal groups are actually different ethnic people. Also, it is impossible to justify some of them settling in specific areas. For example, most of the so called "Natives" in the Southwest did not even arrive there until 900-1400 A.D., meaning, that they are about as Native to America as we are by time duration of settlement.

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>>139762845
Genetic engineering is a shit idea, as is the idea of white genes becoming popularized. Firstly, if everyone becomes white a disease specialized for one race will decimate all of humanity. Plus, if everyone becomes white (via genetic engineering) people will look forlornly to the past wishing there was more variety. Thus, the market for these designer genes will fluctuate, as the next race becomes 'in/hip.'

>>139763289
Mexicans prefer whiter features, european facial structure. So, had they their chance, they all would have become spaniards/castizo-looking men

>>139763500
There is no "white" race. Europeans have differing ethnic groupings such as Celtic, Germanic, etc. Europeans are actually the most biodiverse of all human races and their subraces.

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>>139763663
Yes, but facial structure/bone structure barely varies within races. I guarantee you that if Caucasoid genes become popular a counter-culture will evolve advocating for more variety. Or, like I said, the market for facial features will fluctuate.

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>>139763662
They still look mexican to me, maybe it's the ones in the north.

>>139763500
It's actually good idea for Latin Americans, Arabs, Persians who terribly want to look like Italians/Arabs but can't.
Not all people will become. The beauty standards vary across races, Chinese don't want to become white, but they want to become whiter.

>>139764030
It's true, look at Asia. Marketing race is inherently self-destructive.

>>139764320
That's what I've been saying homeslice, marketing genes is antithetical to human survival. There becomes too many variables to account for when something like this comes to fruition.