Hourly reminder the federal min wage hasn't been raised

my girlfriend gets $2.5 an hour lol

get a better job then lmao

>>139706797
Reminder that lowering the minimum wage will result in higher quality of life for americans.

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>>139706797
Hourly?
Also don't take the job there are plenty out there for non faggots

>>139706862
>get a better job

>all the jobs have been outsourced

>hurrrr just get a better one!

>>139706797
thought he wanted to weaken the dollar to increase manufactoring, What your saying strengthens the its

If we stopped welfare and let untalented people who can' get jobs starve, it would really improve the quality of the gene pool.

>>139706797
>only a few counties in the US you can live on that
wow I guess everyone working minimum wage must be dead from starvation by now

oh wait

>>139706895
>Reminder that lowering the minimum wage will result in higher quality of life for americans.

Yeah remember how "great" it was for American workers prior to having now min wage?

Any respectable human being should be making more than minimum wage by the time they leave their parents' house

Hourly reminder that 95% of jobs pay more than 7.25/hr. Fuck off ANTIFA

reminder that min. wage jobs are not meant for you to spend your entire life at. if your above 23 and still working fast food its your own damn fault.

>>139706954
>wow I guess everyone working minimum wage must be dead from starvation by now

They are working 2 or three jobs just to get buy, young people are living with the parents and everyone is working. That's modern day capitalism for you.

I make hundreds of thousands of dollars per year

>>139707000
shouldn't have bought that new iphone model each year

>>139706991
>min. wage jobs are not meant for you to spend your entire life at.

That's super, but you know most of those jobs are being worked by adults and not teenagers right?

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>>139707035
>shouldn't have bought that new iphone model each year

So turn America into Vietnam and Somalia because Mr. Sheckleberg needs a new mansion?

Might want to turn your flag into a star of david m8.

>>139707039
tough shit

>>139706901
They haven't all been outsourced. Do something else

>>139707110
>tough shit

Wow you sure want to make America "great again" there faggot.

Trumpsters sure reveal their true colors after the election.

Workers need not apply.

>>139706797
Hourly reminder, that some of the "minimum wage" jobs pay too well. Reminder, when you people can show up to work every day, you can draft a resume to elevate yourself out of the shithole that is called "entry level positions". Hourly reminder that if you have real skills, minimum wage is over $30/hour + medical + dental + retirement + vacation.

Work like an idiot, and get paid like one.

>>139707122
>They haven't all been outsourced. Do something else

Yes they have, now kill yourself redditor.

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Daily reminder that if you work a minimum wage job it's because you deserve to do so.

>>139706797
Isn't minimum wage just a convenient excuse for employers to pay shitty wages? Instead of raising it, how about abolishing it?

>>139707152
DID U JUST ASSUME MY POLITICAL VIEWS?

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I head on the radio about some local government deciding that the state minimum wage is not allowed to exceed the federal minimum wage. Basically you had a bunch of people making $10/hr being bumped to $7.5/hr over night. Missouri or Minnesota I think. Ridiculous.

Wagecucks should be rioting over stuff like that. It would be interesting to watch a reemergence of old school labor movements in this country.

But alas americans are dumb wagecucks that lick the boots of Shekelstein so he can buy another yacht. It's the american way.

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>>139707206
>Daily reminder that if you work a minimum wage job it's because you deserve to do so.

More of that "love" from the Trumpsters towards the working class

I remember when Trump was gonna turn the GOP into the "workers party", boy that disappeared quick.

>>139707219
>DID U JUST ASSUME MY POLITICAL VIEWS?

The Op is talking about Trump.

To be fair the minimum wage should rise with inflation if you're going to have it at all (which you shouldn't).

>>139707216
>how about abolishing it?

Yeah and go back to child labor.

if you work minimal wage it's entirely your fault you worthless faggot

>>139707000
>BOO HOO I have to work
Working two or three jobs is easy after Obamacare made it so no one will hire you full time to avoid paying benefits. Just do your twenty hours at starbucks in the morning and twenty at the local organic food mart in the evening and you'll have plenty of time for your fancy arts degree while working 40-60 hours per week

>>139706958
>>139706895
Daily reminder that taxes were 70-80 percent when the greatest generation was being successful. Look it up on your congress tax commity

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>>139707247
Minwage fags aren't working class, they're high school students and people with downs syndrome.

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>>139707363
>spend your whole live working, don't enjoy it you slave

>>139707434
>Minwage fags aren't working class, they're high school students and people with downs syndrome.

You are a fucking faggot if you seriously believe this

Half of Americans are literally poor or near poverty you sheltered rich yuppie.

>>139706797
>Rise minimum wage
>Cost of living goes up for everyone
>People who were making 11 dollars an hour are now a lot poorer as a result.
>Rich is unaffected.
>The poor get poorer.
No one wins.

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I'm starting to understand why you voted for Trump, you are all kikes who like to exploit people for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

>>139707283
this

>>139707247
let me tell you a story, i once worked shitty 7.25hr jobs, then i graduated, then i went to a 10.00hr job, then a 20.00 factory job, then i went to trade school and have s career for myself, im 24 now.many such casesl

maybe if you werent such a fag ud be able to move past sucking ronalds big clown cock

>>139707478
Why does the truth hurt you so?

>>139707515
>Cost of living goes up for everyone

Impose cost controls

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>>139707434
If everyone who is working a minimum wage job is a high schooler why are so many businesses that pay minimum wage open during school hours?

>>139707537
>let me tell you a story,

Don't care

>>139707555
>Why does the truth hurt you so?

When the race war starts you will be the first to go friend. You and the rest of the rich ((((((((bankers))))))))))))

>>139707571
Neck yourself communist

>>139707659
>you can't do x
>yes you can
>COMMUNIST

Wow debating you is like debating a child who smears his shit all over the wall.

>>139707635
Go back to fucking tumblr or whatever hole you crawled out of

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>>139706797
>federal minimum wage

>>139707594
same

>>139707436
>40 hours is literally less than two days out of your week
>Implying you can't afford community college with the money

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1. Minimum wage is not intended to be a living wage, it is intended to provide high school students with enough money to make a car payment.

2. Only the most bottom-feeding intellectual midgets are incapable of acquiring job skills which will immediately propel them above the minimum-wage-worker category.

3. I don't feel a bit sorry for any assclown who's working for minimum wage and complaining about it. ACQUIRE JOB SKILLS, you fucking morons. Grow the fuck up. Provide some value to your fellow man and you will receive value in return. Jeezus it ain't fucking rocket science.

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>>139707294
>Yeah and go back to child labor.
Nigger what? What kind of an argument is this

>>139707826
That's the end result of you libertarian bullshit fantasy world is.

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Daily reminder low skilled immigration drives the base wage down.

>>139707878
>Libertarian
Not even socialist countries have a minimum wage :DDDD

>>139707294
>Implying child labour is a bad a thing because extra income for poor families and giving children skills they can use later in life is evil.

Focus on unions and not this shit. In a competitive market like this, the only way a moron will ever get a decent paycheck is if the job is unionized. The manufacturing plant by my home pays nearly $40/hour while the same plant located in a red state which is not unionized will pay half that. Guess which party is against this?

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>>139707706
>control this
But then this will happen
>then control that
But then this will happen
>CONTROL EVERYTHING

>But I'm not a communist guys I swear!

>>139707823
>1. Minimum wage is not intended to be a living wage,

It is for millions of American workers m8.

>, it is intended to provide high school students with enough money to make a car payment.

Where does it say that in the law? Point it out?

>2. Only the most bottom-feeding intellectual midgets

Don't you guys always attack college on here? How do you expect to get into college without a good job, which you can only get via college?

>3. I don't feel a bit sorry for any assclown

Your own personal aggrievement seems to be a common theme of this thread. What should I expect from cuckservatives.

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>>139706797

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>>139707165
I'd rather be a redditor than a whiney faggot.

>>139707989
The state should benefit me and everyone else.

Sorry I triggered you so much.

>>139707165
>>139706901

go into healthcare. there is a demand for everything. from nurses to janitors, every single tech position from IT to x-rays, physicians, PAs, nutritionists, educational specialists.

>>139708059
Yeah expect there are places in the US with 15 dollars and they aren't underwater.

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>>139708075
>I'd rather be a redditor than a whiney faggot.

So go back redditor.

>>139707434
t. kid whos mummy and daddy payed for his uni

Survival of the fittest you uneducated inbred

>>139707228
lol fuck off dude

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>>139707988
>Focus on unions and not this shit.

Yeah would be nice if GOP congress didn't kill them.

>>139708152
>Survival of the fittest you uneducated inbred

That term doesn't mean what you think it means faggot.

>>139708152
>survival of the fittest is mummy and daddy paying for your uni
lolbertarians actually believe this

>>139708078
You're missing the point: If you try to control everything you'll weigh the whole system down and eventually, overburdened with the weight of bureaucratic red tape, it will collapse.

But I wouldn't expect a communist to understand that.

>>139708118
If the minimum wage is raised, then companies just hire less staff or reduce the number of hours they work to balance it out. Raising the minimum wage harms those with no work experience, as they lack the skills to justify being paid that much.

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>>139708132
Um, no sweetie?

Minimum wage should be abolished. Low-paying jobs are just an entry into the job market. Be greedier, people. Move if you have to. Find the best wage/cost ratio for your skills so you can actually start saving money for the future. The success of our civilization depends on the individual planning of civilized people.

>>139706901
then be grateful someone is offering you a job at all

Minimum wage is bullshit fuck off.

>>139707000
>everyone is working
>this is somehow a problem

>>139706797
>Can I have a job to get experience and some money?
>I'd love to, but I can't afford $7.50/hr
>I can work for $5/hr if you'll train me and give me the opportunity for a full job within a year.

This isn't allowed under current law.

>>139708352
God i look forward to the day when the economy crashes and lolbertarians have actually left there parents home and suddenly realize the free market isn't so great after all.

>>139708484
>Indians then take over every job in the nation and the west turns into one giant Chinese sweatshop.

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>>139708037

Well here's another kid with a keen grasp on reality.

There's no law that says minimum-wage jobs are for high school students, Ace. But there is something called society, in which you are a nothing and a nobody until you can actually do something that's worth a shit.

You can quite easily go to college with no money whatsoever, you are GUARANTEED to be approved for an unlimited amount of government-backed student loans, as long as you are actually going to school and making the grades.

As for my "own personal aggrievement," well, yes, I suppose that would be a common theme from me in a thread populated by lazy nobodys who think they deserve more money simply because they exist.

Here's a tip, Roscoe: Flipping burgers isn't worth more than minimum wage, because ANYBODY CAN DO IT. Mowing lawns isn't worth more than minimum wage because ANYBODY CAN DO IT. Standing behind a counter selling cigarettes and beer isn't worth more than minimum wage because ANYBODY CAN DO IT.

Go forth and learn to do something that not just anybody can do, and your personal wage difficulties will be solved. Otherwise, you're just pissing in the wind.

>>139708282
Sorry I don't believe the state should just benefit (((((((((((them)))))))))))

>f you try to control everything you'll weigh the whole system down and eventually, overburdened with the weight of bureaucratic red tape, it will collapse.

[citation needed]

>>139708490
Name one Communist economy that has succeeded.

>>139708582
>implying im a communist

>>139708423
We don't need to work these many hours WHEN MOST OF THE JOBS HAVE BEEN REPLACED WITH ROBOTS YOU TARD

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>>139706797
>$7.50 per reminder

Shall be deposited in your share blue direct deposit account. #Resist

>>139708144
No, sweetie.....
2 year associates degree that's paid for itself thousands of times over by now. You won't get there with your liberal arts degree.

>>139708608
OK, a planned economy.
Great Leap Forward?
7 Year Plan?

>>139708582
Insurance.
God damn jews......

>>139706797
lets you hire young people

texas here
my first job last year was @ 7.25. thats the real federal min wage
tons of my workmates lived off of that, though many on food stamps ofc

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>>139706797
guess you'll just have to sell boipucci, goyim.

>>139708551
>>Indians then take over every job in the nation
Since when did US and India have free movement of labor?

we don't have any minimum wage here
it is not like imposing one will magically fix america

>>139708285
yes. every time some cucked city decides to push wages higher, low end employers get fucked--which means low skill employees get fucked. large companies, like walmart, can absorb the costs. but too many small businesses don't have good ways of finding $1000's extra per employee year after year.

>>139706797
>Federal minimum wage is meaningless as states have their own economies
>States manage their minimum wage laws
>Even states that regularly raise minimum wage still struggle with poverty because minimum wage doesn't cure poverty.
Reminder that we've been trying this minimum wage experiment for almost 60 years and it hasn't worked.

>>139708676
>ha bro i worked really hard to get this cushy job
>what do you mean most of the nation isn't accepted to higher education has to break their back and can barely survive?

I look forward to another economic collapse and higher education jobs become void for most.

>>139708685
>you can only be capitalist or communist

amerilard education

>>139708756
Won't even been need to be indians, just spics.

>>139708621
well that sure is a pickle, if only there was some way to learn skills that a robot can't replicate...

>>139708973
>well that sure is a pickle, if only there was some way to learn skills that a robot can't replicate...

Or the planet turns into the Hunger Games

Unless universal basic income becomes a thing, but ((((((they)))))))) will rig it so only the rich get it.

>>139708576
Implying the people who end up controlling everything won't be (((them))). You're either retarded or a troll. I personally hope you're both.

Remember when liberal cities raised the minimum wage and McDonalds installed self-serve robot kiosks? You $15 fags can't help but fuck yourselves in the ass every time you turn around.

>>139708931
>Won't even been need to be indians, just spics.
No free movement of labor with Mexico either.
Ofcourse there's an issue with immigration laws not having been upheld in ages, and that has to be fixed as it will fuck up any kind of system.

>>139707571

That is the worst idea I've heard all week.

Look at the history of price controls. They always fuck everything up.

If you want an idea of the effects of raising the minimum wage look at whats happening in Seattle. The net earnings of the working class are actually decreasing due to the increasing minimum wage.

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>>139706862
>>139706900
>>139706954
>>139706991
>>139706965
>>139706964
>>139707110
>>139707122
>>139707206
>>139707295
>>139707283
>Being this much of a jewish slave

>>139709167
>overpopulation
>deport all shitskins
>raise minimum wage to 15
>ban McDonalds because its poison food

>>139709229
lol it dosen't need to be free movement of labor, a long as they exist in that nation they are a problem, and even if it was homogenus, look at china, look at the sweatshops there. That is what happens when you don't regulate an economy to some extent.

>>139709075
Definitely not a communist

>>139707363
People always forget that the stupid nigger we had in office for 8 years is a big part why you can't find real jobs anymore. My company runs 5 shifts a day to avoid paying anyone full time.

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>>139709265
Literally what?

>>139709336
>That is what happens when you don't regulate an economy to some extent.
Wasn't this thread about minimum wage, not regulation in general?

>>139709102
Rothbart was a kike

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Ya know, guys, I work in a factory. I work hard, I drive a somewhat complicated glorified forklift called a "reach." I'm the guy who pulls the orders and stages them to be put on a truck.

I make 24.50/hr doing that. Why?

Because that's what the job is worth. That's what the executives in the HR department of my company have determined is the wage required to keep a reliable person of sufficient skill in that job for an extended period of time.

Now I could take this same skill-set and go to work for a company that doesn't care about turnover or keeping quality people around. But even if I did that, I still would NEVER have to work for minimum wage.

So with this easily-acquired job skill I am making a pretty good living.

It's difficult if not impossible for me to empathize with a person working for $7.50/hr, when I know how easy it is to work for much, much more than that.

Until you learn how to do something - anything - that's worth more than minimum wage, you have no room to complain. And I'll tell you something else too - once you do start making decent money, you will change your attitude toward all the whiners, because you'll realize, like I do, that they're just...fucking...lazy. Or stupid, take your pick.

>>139707635
Lmao you can't afford to fight on minimum wage nigger :^)

>>139709263
except you often get a better paying job and you actually have to do less
not to mention all the fun stuff, especially in the IT here. I literaly spend 4 hours with code, the other 4 hours is me talking with workmates, spending time in "meditation room" or playing video games on a console to "clear my head and allow creative thoughts to appear"
its fucking ridiculous compared to when I started my career

>>139709425
Don't you understand what I'm saying? If you don't have laws enforcing certain rules about the economy you end up with sweatshops. Oh sure some will be well of, the though majority will be working 12 hour shifts in factories with barely enough to survive.

>>139707528
Niggers aren't people

>>139709263
>irepliedtoeverything-nowhat.jpeg

>>139707431
Daily reminder USA was successful before the taxes were increased to 80% and the tax hike crippled the growth.

>>139709336
china is doubly bad because there is constant pressure to reach artificial economic goals. this forces a "by any means necessary" attitude in industry.

>>139709595
>Daily reminder USA was successful before the taxes were increased to 80%

Guilded ages were not "successful"

Open a fucking book m8.

>>139709595
name the years fag I want congressional tax rate proof

The only good part about minimum wage is that people stop hiring lazy niggers just because they're cheap.

>>139709493
>not understanding that you got lucky

There is not 300 million jobs worth 24.50 an hr

>>139706797
I would never work for $7.50 tho. Why are you so weak in America? Just tell everyone to stop working for $7.50 and companies will have to raise their minimum wage. You don't need the government to do this. Just do it as a people.

>>139709579
I understand what you're saying, I don't understand how what you're saying has anything to do with what we're talking about.

We're talking apples, you're talking oranges.

>>139706797
OP ... can you just read any honest book on economics?

... surely you can't be this stupid

>>139709263
Except big companies actually benefit from higher minimum wage as it destroys their competition.

Can someone explain to me how minimum wage works?

If someone is working full time on minimum wage, but he still can't afford rent and food, isn't that a societal problem? On the other hand, to what extent could minimum wage be raised? Ans should it be done nationally or regionally?

>>139709686
>then tacos come in and take all the jobs because they're too stupid to realize this.
In fact most amerifats are too stupid to realize thiss

>>139709631
>Guilded ages were not "successful"
Actually they were. When you factor in where immigrants were coming from, the shit conditions of low wage workers was still an improvement over the conditions in other countries. America has effectively always been the ideal place to make money even during the fabled guilded age.

>>139709652
$26.36 is the average pay in the USA. Anyone who can't figure out a way to earn more than the minimum wage doesn't deserve to earn more than the minimum wage.

>>139709631
If you unironically think USA was so rich because of the high taxes you are the one who needs to read a book or 2.

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>>139706797
>Hourly reminder the federal min wage hasn't been raised from $7.50 since 2009. Hourly reminder only a few counties in the US you can live on that. Hourly reminder Trump doesn't want to raise the minimum wage, but lower it for workers.

If you have nothing to offer, whos fault is it? Whos problem is it?

Mine? No. Yours.

ITT: economic downies not realizing that everything is priced according to the cost it makes to produce it and by extension the wages the workers are paid.

>>139709686
What I'm saying is the more you lower the minimum wage the more you will reach levels like China.

>>139706797
Minimum wage in based Straya is $18.29 because we're not a third world country.

>>139709785

no it isn't.

It's somewhere around $14 to $20.

>>139709799
>If you unironically think USA was so rich because of the high taxes you are the one who needs to read a book or 2.

It go rich because of protectionism

Look it up. Not LE FREE MARKET CAPITALISM meme

Literally every developed nation followed a similar pattern.

>>139709819
Or Finland? Finland doesn't have a minimum wage either, yet we're pretty much the polar opposite of China in this regard.

>>139709861
>unless you're youth and then it's basically half that.

Literally preying on children.

>>139709727
>If someone is working full time on minimum wage, but he still can't afford rent and food, isn't that a societal problem?
I seriously hope you don't vote. If you don't make enough to live, that's your problem, not the problem of society. It costs nothing to learn a marketable skill.

>>139709579
you are wrong. you are stupid.

the agency called the SEC is the dorect arm by which bnks can bribe the govwrnment. without the sec only congress can ke banking laws. regulatory agencies are an extralegal process by which wealth creates new laws.

the regulatory agencies

>>139709870
Stop lying, faggot. It's cringey.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t19.htm

>>139709896
Eh, children have less expenses than adults.

>>139709493
>lazy or stupid
Both
IQ + industriousness is the best predictor of long term success in a functioning society

>>139709819
>>139709893
China has sweatshops because their overpopulation makes the worth of labor cheap as hell. It has nothing to do with their minimum wage laws.

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If you expect to work your entire life on a minimal wage you might just be retarded or a nigger. Minimal wage isn't supposed to be permanent, it's for people with no experience, part-time students etc. Fix your life, learn a craft and/or get a better job.

>>139709978
>"""functioning society"""

>>139709785
Actually it's $24.57 per hour. But that's not exactly true, there are low paying Jobs that need to be done regardless, and it's mostly the white working class that are doing them. Blacks don't work, the immigrants are getting the higher paid jobs thanks to affirmative action, the working class whites are having to do the grunt level jobs.

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>>139706958
Yes, we had the highest wages in the world and the lowest cost of living.

>>139706797
hey idiot.. have you taken a look at Trumps tax plan?? He wouldnt make anyone making less than 25,000 a year pay any fed tax! Theres the extra 175$ amonth you wanted!

>>139710022
>Actually it's $24.57 per hour.
Learn to read
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t19.htm

>>139709871
>protectionism
Ow wow. Another meme. Yea it was such a great idea to protect GM. Now it's a completely shit company that only sells to Americans because noone else wants to buy their shit products. Seriously which company is better or more productive because of protectionism? All protectionism does is let a few 1000 people keep their job at the expense of everyone else's standard of living.

>>139709942

> https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t19.htm

That is a load of shit.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

The average is $48,000 per year. Which is just under what most police officers make.

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>>139709652

>There is not 300 million jobs worth 24.50 an hr

No there aren't. But there are plenty of them. My company is looking to hire two more equipment operators right now.

Trust me, Aussie, there are plenty of lazy and/or stupid people in the USA. More than enough to fill all the minimum wage jobs. If these guys want to be one of those, I can't help them.

Equality of opportunity definitely exists in the USA. That's not the same thing as equality of outcome.

But from a strictly macro-economic perspective, it would be totally possible for there to be 300 million skilled jobs in the USA, if we had 300 million skilled workers. The economy is global now so there aren't any limitations on specific countries anymore. We could easily outsource our burger-flipping requirements.

>>139710112
What's with all of the illiterate faggots on /pol/ tonight? Nice Reddit spacing by the way. Fits like a glove.

>>139710136

> equipment operators

> 24.50 an hr

rofl... unless it's heavy machines like crane operators then it's not going to more than $20 per hour likely.

>>139710079
Care to counter my other points or can you not read?

>>139709685
it doesn't work that way. people still need money for rent, bills, food, kids. and what if they have criminal records? what if they're just poor kids who need to help the family? it's hard enough to get any job, so should they just refuse offers? there's been plenty of banter in the way of economic idealism, but it doesn't really change economic realities.

>>139710022
Just get diagnosed with autism lite (aspergers). You can put on disability work thing and then everything gets thrown at you. It's so easy, kek.

Stuff you get for free:
Anything you need for work
Anything you need to get work (I got some decent looking clothes for free).
Anything psychological related stuff
Training
Subsidized wages
Lots of other stuff depending on the circumstances, for example, some people get free mopeds.

It's honestly quite disgusting how much stuff they can throw at us. I hate to imagine how much tax dollars are being thrown around.

>>139706852
how's that even possible?

>>139710184

You must be new here because the reddit spacing meme isn't more than a year old.

>>139706797
>thinks raising minimum wage will fix it
>not wanting to lower the cost of living
wew lad

>>139710136
So who exactly has to do the lowest paid jobs? You think they just become void if everybody was hard working? They have to be done. How can you not understand this?

>>139710195
Countering your bullshit numbers will suffice for now, but I'll make sure to chime in next time you make shit up on the spot.

>>139709908
It doesn't even take that much. Give a fuck and do your best and show up to work when you're supposed to and don't waste your money on stupid shit like $200 sneakers and you'll get by.

>>139710212
This is why the welfare and disability system needs to be completely redone.

>>139710136
skilled labor cannot scale to 300 mil or1.5 billion people because t tht scope of state regulation cannot be avoded. regs cant be avoided because thr scale of the enterprise allows it to outcompete other states via bribes and subsiies.

thereore skilled industries cannot exist at a competetive ice point or uch large populations. smaller iterative nations are ecessary or arket stochasticity to function.

mises/hoppe 101

>>139706797
Daily remember rasing the minimum wage devalues the work of everbody not on minimum wage. Which means more people will end up poorer.

>>139710273
>So who exactly has to do the lowest paid jobs?
People without the skill to do high paying jobs. In other words, young people starting at the bottom and old retards who deserve their misery.

>>139710344
dismantled*

>>139706797
It's $7.25 you retard. It should be abolished anyways, minimum wage needs to be decided at a more local level if even at all. Look what happened o Puerto Rico. It cannot compete with other tourist spots due to the minimum wage being so fucking high for it's area

>>139710280
>i can counter it i do it next time even though ill never see you again.

Heres the source i used btw
https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/01/18/how-does-your-income-stack-up-against-the-average.aspx

>>139710344
Certainly, after I'm done with it thought. :)

>>139710266
It's especially retarded since raising the minimum wage would also raise the cost of living, so unless they plan on eating the cash itself, they don't even gain anything from it.

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>>139710411
>Fool.com - 2015
>vs
>Bureau of labor statistics - July 2017

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>>139706797
7.5*40*4=1200 a month

Even after taxes, this puts you in the top 20% richest people in the world. How can you not live on that?

>>139710423
>a literal ancap leaching of the system

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>>139706797
Low skills = low wages. Makes sense

>>139710432
and millennials wanted to go to 15 and hour.
way to crash the whole fuckin economy dimwits

>captcha "sorry sold"

>>139710447
>pizzagate arrests
more like pizzagate murders, that dude is already dead

>>139710387
>loses job
>has to go homeless for a month to find a job

you're an idiot

>>139710432
the plan is to destroy society and basic istitutiojs nd blme it on high iq people hn ttrvation begins

we have sen this all beore

>>139710489
There's no reason to disadvantage myself for LITERALLY no reason. They get money thrown at them by the government, they need to spend it so that they keep it. If they don't spend it their funding gets reduced. Whether I'm there or not they'll find a way to throw the money away. It's better if it goes towards a better cause, my well being, no?

>>139710526
>losing job
work harder faggot

>>139710484
>The global median of these medians is $2,630 and the population weighted average of these median values is $4,114

That is yearly. Half the world lives on $2630 or less.

>>139710591
In this day and age I don't really care about somebody leaching off a corrupt degenerate government that has sold out it's own people.

Daily reminder...

You don't need to make 6 figures to live well. You simply need to rethink your life and learn to conserve through gaining skills and making wise investment choices.

You can buy a single quality loaf of bread for $4 to $5 at the store.

Or you can make dozens of loaves for less than $10.

Don't blame the system, blame yourselves for making poor investment choices all around.

http://shop.honeyville.com/calcium-propionate-powder.html

You can even buy the preservatives in bulk for yourself so your food can last as long as store bought food.

>>139706797
Minimal wage is for commie cucks

>>139710714
Remember to disconnect your internet to live frugally.

>>139710659
Absolutely. I say, let them destroy themselves, and if we benefit in the process, why not accept? We need power to rebuild from the ashes and if the government wants to give us that power before they implode. More power to them, and us.

>>139710734
>loses cuchy tech job then gets stuck on shitty 7:50 an hour factory job

How would you feel about it then?

>>139710194

They don't hire the operators at 24.50/hr. I've been there a while. I think the starting wage is 18.50. That's still very good for this area.

BUT...they can't find anyone who can do the job. I'm sure you know very little about logistics from your statement, but there is other equipment besides "heavy" equipment that requires skill to operate. I could teach you how to operate my equipment, give you a couple weeks to practice, and you still couldn't do my job. You'd be too slow and it would take you a long time to get fast at it. Thus the "skilled" aspect of it.

But it's still something anyone can do, if they'd simply learn how to do it.

>>139706797
Minimum wage is a meme, it shouldn't exist. No minimum wage would allow new startup companies. and would implement a sort of natural selection/competition and incentives for companies to provide better benefits if they want good workers.

>>139706797
hourly reminder that Switzerland doesn't have a minimum wage yet even poor people such as cashiers earn 4k a month here

i cant tell if ths thread s 100% slid or if pol is gwtting dumber

>>139710790
I agree, I don't understand why an ancap would have these are opinions or are you just using it as a meme flag?

>>139709727
there is a cultural problem. people are too willing to blow their money on certain things, like rent, for instance. so then apartment owners can increase rent prices a little bit each year without losing tenants. raising minimum wage doesn't fix that. it just increases costs for goods and services and justifies even more rent increases.

>>139710806
>factory job
>minimum wage
The more you talk, the more it's obvious you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

>>139710823
no one woud work a hard job for 18. thats well below the welfare cliff and thir taxes woud go to pay for the compete coverage and children of a recipint that the woker coydnt afford. thts why no one s signing up for these jobs

>>139710906
No, it's legit. The way I see it is. If the current government is going to throw money around and act like imbeciles, and if the majority of people are going to support that, then the best thing I can do is to take advantage of it. I will take advantage of every single part of the government that I can, there's no reason to disadvantage myself in protest to a corrupt government that doesn't even know I exist. I'm just going to sit, wait, and take advantage of the current system until I find the moment to strike.

Getting rid of immigration of unskilled workers would be a big step, as well as encouraging teens to work at minimum wage jobs instead of just letting Mexicans get all of it.

>>139711096
>Getting rid of immigration of unskilled workers would be a big step
It would be the only step needed.

>>139711096
How is that a bad thing though? If you have a lot of unskilled immigrants than that would mean your population could focus more on skilled work, accelerating the progress and power of your native population. Obviously all the retards of your population (the left and the hill billies) are going to reee about it but it will die out in a few generations.

>>139711067

>no one would work a hard job for 18

But they would for $7.50 eh? I doubt you have any frame of reference on this subject, being from Malaysia, but 18.50 is pretty good money in eastern Nevada. And yes, there are plenty of people who have applied for the open positions but so far no one who can actually do the job. I know because I get the final say on who gets hired. My test is very simple: Get on the reach and pull me down a pallet from the top tier. Do that smoothly and I'll hire you, the speed will come. But it's not as easy as it sounds.

>>139707283
then it should be somewhere around 21 dollars an hour, reflective of inflation, if not a bit more

>http://cepr.net/documents/publications/min-wage1-2012-03.pdf

Do you think this bothers me, OP?

>>139706797
winimum wage is absolutely fine because worker turnout is so high these days.

I have been working in my current job for the last 5 years and I was paid min wage for the first 6 six months before I moved up a position within the company.

People expect to come into a some new job, get trained, work for like two weeks then dissappear because they dont like it anymore. This is why min wage exists

>>139711619
Did you even read what you cited? Calculating for inflation, in 2012, the minimum wage would be about $10. The $21 is calculating for productivity increases, which is not the same thing, in case you didn't realize.

>>139711574
they would o it for 7.50 with no welfare.

a bright and ardrking erson has no interest in destroying his body o he can e a tax slave for niggers. 18 is way below the willingness threshold hich is hy labor at or below this level has disappeared.

the requrements for lavr nw giventhe nigger conditions are thatvit pay in ousized status, have healthcare (equivalent to an extra 20k a yer) or not be abjectly dangerous. your job is none ofthese

>>139706852
She should get better at sucking then.

>>139708132
You're not fooling anyone... The only reason people are debating you is to see what kind of silly arguments you'll come up with.
Make us all a favor and fuck off back to your antifag niggers.

>>139711847
Are malaysian too disfigured to type on a keyboard without mashing all the buttons?

>>139711748
inflation ratings that favor housing and medical and deweight hedonic adjustments out the 1970 minwge at around 35 an hour

>>139711921
my phone got wet

>>139712060
lol, you should probably get a new one. My computer keyboard got wet and now whenever I press s it types it like 3 times.

>>139711847

Like I said, you have no frame of reference. Of course I have healthcare coverage. I also have a 401k with company match, free fitness club membership, and access to an inter-corporate employee-only line of credit. All my earthly needs are taken care of by the company, including my need for money.

Not sure how it is in Malaysia, seems like it would kinda suck. But I have a feeling that if I went there and opened a company I wouldn't have much problem finding workers who would accept 18/hr.

The demand curve slopes downward. Also if you don't like lower buying power and stagnant wages blame democracy and central banking.

>>139712190
you dont know who i am. i have plenty frame of reference.

someone can apply for welfre and shoot opioids ll day and pull in the average welfare ceiling f 30k or so and be fine

if they work the hospitls can dny major treatmnts, which are now more likely to occur because of heavy labor

the u.s. white labor force is still the best in the world. they dont wanna be slaves to niggers FOR LESS MONEY thn th niggers get. its that simple

>>139706797
Why do Americans love it to be worked to death and be proud of it?

>>139707431
>muh 80% taxes
they were only that high on the rich in theory
in practice when the numbers were all calculated they were getting taxed about 35%

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>>139706797
>being over the age of 26
>still making minimum wage, or working a job that doesn't pay at least $40,000/year

What the fuck is wrong you, OP....and the rest of you losers in this thread?

Where's your self-fucking-respect?

>>139712574
>>139712574
rces exposed to basic capital processes such as anglos dutch and east asians have evolved differnt neurological traits to survive capitlism obviously

>>139707431
The only thing high taxes do is make the rich move out and become craftier.

>>139706797
Raising the "minimum wage"is retarded. The true minimum wage is always 0.

Raising the minimum wage does not change standard of living.

>>139712574
So we don't end up like Europe. A bunch of lazy, "It's OK if we only ever get 2nd place" losers who haven't advanced human progress or technology in almost anyway whatsoever in the past 45 years.

Don't believe me? The vast majority of websites in the UK and Europe were originally built by the USA, managed by the USA until the sites were complete and the staff trained, and virtually all knowledge (for the time) was transferred.

We made search engines, you just use them.

>>139712715
Grew up in a broken home
Dropped out of high school
Worked since 16
Get anxiety looking at the work to get my GED (I've taken the pretest before, passed all sections except the math)
Don't have enough money or time to go back and forth to the community college to get free tutoring (theres no public transportation in the desert and everything is far away from each other)

>>139706797
Daily reminder that minimum wages generate unemployment.

Daily reminder that commies are economically uneducated.

Daily reminder OP is a fag.

>>139713230
also I make 24,000 a year

>>139713279
Read a book nigger. The ged is so easy retards niggers pass.

>wahhhhhhhhhhhhh minimum wage
go to school
minimum wage is for high schoolers.

>>139713375
Yeah I know, easier said than done, I'm afraid of failure especially since its 120 bucks plus gas money every time I do fail.

>>139713375
the ged is in fact eay, but most niggers do not in fact pass. it happens but not most of thm

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>>139713230
>Grew up in a broke home
Boo-hoo, some people here have been legit sexually molested and raped as children - and still picked their ass up

>Dropped out of high school
Nice one. Unless you had to in order to take care of family, seems like it was a dumb decision you made. You.

>Worked since 16
OK? Poverty can last 5, 10, 20 years of a persons life. But after 25+ years, the reason you are poor is because you're likely terrible with money or have low IQ/ambition/mental disorders. There's pills and programs for you.

>Get anxiety...
Go get pills from a free clinic, or start to "suck it up, buttercup". I had anxiety issues during my med school clinicals - something that's actually difficult.

>Don't have enough money to go back and forth to community college...
Then don't! Go get a certification, become an 'apprentice' at a trade job like plumbing or welding....ANYTHING other than the same shit you're doing that still has kept you in the exact same place you stand today.

Also, if you have time to post here at 3/6am, you have time to start finding a better fucking job and living.

>>139713726
>Go get pills
HAHAHAHA yeah put jewish brainwashing chemicals in my body, yep definitely going to do that, great advice! You're over 55 right?

>Then don't! Go get a certification, become an 'apprentice' at a trade job like plumbing or welding
There is no trades in Nevada

>Also, if you have time to post here at 3/6am
I got off work an hour ago

>>139713726
>Boo-hoo, some people here have been legit sexually molested and raped as children - and still picked their ass up
Also, tell me what the turnover rate is in that statistic

DESU you are %100 a privileged faggot who looks down on others whos too much of a douche to give advice without insulting the person hes trying to "help" with his shitty advice because hes so much of a big brain nigga whos better than everybody else, not only economically, but your virtues are oh so superior. This is probably to cover up that you're a coward IRL.

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>>139713840
>LEL I'm a loser reddit shill who works at a Casino/Bar in some Nevada city/town (likely Vegas) and it's everyone else's fault

Links to Nevada Trade/Vocational Schools and Programs (JUST A GOOGLE SEARCH AWAY...!): http://www.rwm.org/nevada-trade-schools/

Also, if you're not a complete fat piece of shit or riddled with physical health problems - you could always join the military!

>>139712738
why do lefties always ignore this?

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>>139714083
>Coming to /pol/ for help
>U R Pribeliged, you insult me, wah wah wahhhhh

Get. The fuck. Out. Reddit is -------> way.

And if I'm a coward, buddy, I'm a rich/independent/debt-fucking-free one.

>>139714132
>literally all 5 hour drives minimum from me roundtrip

You don't know shit

>join the military
and risk my life for a starting wage thats lower than my current wage and fight for the jews

Are you a baby boomer?

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>>139714367
Military gives you free clothes, a free place to sleep, free food, and plenty other shit - and you won't have to do something like actually pick up and move your lazy, entitled ass to a better living situation.

Move to Utah, why don't you? Or Arizona? You work an unskilled labor job, surely you can find the exact same job out there if you had to.

Cheaper housing, far more variety of jobs that don't require a graveyard shift...How many more excuses you gonna come up with other than the fact you're a coward and a loser who can't adapt to shit.

>>139714906
>Military gives you free clothes, a free place to sleep, free food, and plenty other shit
In exchange for signing a blood pact to Israel

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>>139715024
Cute troll son. In that case, since there's no longer a valid argument - "I'll see you at Starbucks".

>>139706797
minimum wage should be 0.

>>139707431
effective tax rates (i.e. what people actually pay) were lower than they are today

yawn.

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>>139706797
Hourly reminder..........

President Trump Cuts More US Debt for a Longer Period of Time Than Any President in History
http://archive.is/lJk4Z

Real gross domestic product increased at an annual rate of 2.6 percent in the second quarter of 2017
https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdpnewsrelease.htm

Government spending as percentage of GDP down
http://archive.is/2sG4k

Milestone for Trump: 1 million new jobs in six months
http://archive.is/Bxbev

U.S. has record 6 million job openings, even as 6.8 million Americans are looking for jobs
http://archive.is/TQrnw

Wages rising faster than prices
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cpi.pdf
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

Consumer confidence back near 16-year high
http://archive.is/Dbg7F

U.S. unemployment hits lowest level since 2001
http://archive.is/Tznks

Summer Youth Unemployment Falls to Lowest Level Since 1969
http://archive.is/t2RHr

Black Unemployment at Lowest Level in 17 Years
http://archive.is/uf5OQ

Stock market at record breaking highs

Lowest number of people on food stamps in 7 years

>>139706797
The minimum wage should be abolished. The fact of the matter is A lot of low skill workers aren't even worth that $7.50

Its $7.25 you idiots.

>>139715258
wtf, did she actually wear this?

Why would those companies sponsor her like a freakin' NASCAR driver?

Americans, you need to sort yourselves out...

>raise the minimum wage to $14.88/hr
>nazis and commies both win

Do you guys ever notice that the IDs of the guys making the same arguments (what I like to call the "enemy" in the thread, that everyone is debating against) always conveniently switch at the perfect time? Like, OP disappeared, then a new guy took over arguing his points right away and took up the mantle of "enemy". It's almost like it's either the same dude using a proxy to look like more than one person, or more likely an organized effort to spam the board with shitty threads. Like one dude starts a thread and argues for a while, then he brings in his partner or partners who take over the arguments while he fucks off and makes another thread. Rinse and repeat.

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>tfw almost 30 and still making minimum wage
Every single day I want to die. I live with my parents and spend every free moment drowning myself in the cheapest booze.

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>>139706797
The only people who make minimum wage are mccuckolds and walniggers.

If you are stuck at these places because you are a kid or retarded, stick with it for three years so you aren't seen as a job hopper. You are already at rock bottom, only way to go is up.

>>139714906
How's the parents house lifestyle treating you

>>139708037
>Don't you guys always attack college on here?

You don't need college to be successful. You're more likely to get fucked by the student loan debt. Go to a vocational school and get a few certs. Learn a trade.

What fuck, get some higher skills or work for yourself

>>139706797
minimum wage law is the most anti black law on the books, do some research nigger

>>139707152
>hurr derrrr why won't you solve every problem? Where is the wall? Drumfp prumpf never mind all the good that was done!

It's not even been a year.

>>139706797
Minimum wage is minimum skill. Should only be for young people to earn extra spending money/learn life skills or old bored people.

Not meant to support a standard of living.

>>139706965
>>139706991

Yeah minimum wage is for cucks. My employer is paying me a whole dollar above minimum wage.

>>139722176
It's true though. It's anti-anyone no educated or skilled

The issue is oversupply of labor driving down wages. The biggest contributor is immigrants.

Economists and (((bankers))) want unlimited immigration to drop wages, the republicans are as guilty as the democrats.

A large number of people make slightly more than minimum wage so the argument that it's a stopgap is wrong. It's just that increasing it by itself isn't really a solution.

>>139706797
Hourly reminder that Norway enjoys a higher standard of living and has no minimum wage (protip: Norway is full of white people)

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>>139709263
WHEN did /pol/ realize the combine would make whites GREAT again?
Just look at this guy!
/pol/ you better pick up that can

>>139706958
yeah they had unions who actually worked for them

>>139716399
And you need to be bombed again for your retardation