>senior programmer >20 years of experience under my belt

>>139673855
You sound like a special kind of asshole.

>>139673855
Maybe in China or fucking Saudi Arabia.

Definitely not in Weimerica.

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>>139673855
ur too old fat man
and your tits are too big

Leftist culture is the only thing wrong with these companies, I love coming to work in sweatpants and sandals and taking a 3 hour lunch.

Maybe Oracle is hiring

>>139673855
Where do you live?

>>139673855
Guess you should have gotten a real education and not fallen for the programmer is important meme. You losers are being replaced by foreign workers at light speed. Your job is essentially the same skill set as a school teacher now. Useless meme degree.

Laughing at you all day.

>>139673855
the problem is that we are encouraging women to enter the tech field. These women have no interest in tech, they just want to break up the "boys club".

also checked

>>139673855
>senior programmer
>20 years of experience under my belt at the same company
What kind of company do you work at? Do you guys sell software or did you do stuff like getting contracted by industries? Database work etc

I'm trying to start a software company (utility apps for phone & desktop, simple games) I'm wondering how hard it is to break into the business. Might be easier to just get contracted and do braindead Java GUI work for some pharmaceutical company or someone with money.

>>139673855
start your own company. I did and I've never looked back because the competition are the idiots you just described and they're incredibly easy to underbid and outperform. I've got me and 5 guys I knew from college in a regular house as an office doing as much work as the trendy liberal idiots a couple blocks over do with a staff of 15 in an office that's 10 times as expensive. I've given everybody 2 raises so far this year and it's all out of profit no VC money whatsoever.

Look for a remote job. Fuck going into an orifice everyday. Only cucks do that.

>>139674927
>start your own company. I did and I've never looked back
What kind of stuff do you guys do? >>139674836 I didn't go to college but I'm trying to break into the business. Currently working on an Android app and later will migrate it to iPhone.

>>139674836
The company developed trading software, we got acquired by a competitor who wanted the tech but not the talent. I didn't start it and never had a stake so I can't provide any useful advice for startups, sadly.
>>139674927
What kind of work are you guys doing?

>>139675103
This

>>139673855
Sadly these fucks are bigger that you think. Every conference I go to is a shit show of SJWs and buzzword marketing to the point where I don't want to go.
>"How do we achieve agile workflows to enhance our ROI, which achieving convergence and reducing time to market"
You do it by stop being a fucking man child, working, and going home to bang the wife.

>>139674501
t.retard
my gf spends her days rewriting pajeet code

>>139674501
Goldman Sachs changed their dress code for programmers to attract more talent. Programmers have the best paying jobs for the least amount of work. The outsourcing meme has been around forever, but its never been true. If programmers aren't important how did we get fucking goldman sachs to bend to our will.

>>139673855
There are gazillions of smaller tech companies that employ traditional autists who only care about their area of expertise. Startups are always hiring because they're startups. They hire pink haired hipsters because they want forty year old investors to think they're the next hip thing like Uber or Snapchat. Most of the places you interviewed at will be gone when the first round of capital runs out.

>>139673855
No but I heard Starbucks is hiring Baristas near you.

>>139673855
you are lucky to even get into the door you piece of shit

>>139674501

>hating on programmers and teachers

12 year old detected

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>>139673855
>get laid off along with almost everyone else
I'm a Gen X'er too but a little younger. I might be look for a new job out of choice (sort of bored of my work) though.

I hear the hiring side of these interviews, etc... and I shudder to think what it looks like if I come in.

One thing I'm concerned about is that millennial software people expect your online presence to have github projects, stackoverflow activity, etc... I fuck around with all that shit at work so why the fuck would I want to do it for fun?

BTW, if you're looking for work, apply for work with defense contractors. They usually don't tolerate the playpen office bullshit. You don't need a security clearance for most positions and some will put you in for a clearance while on the job.

>>139675103
I live across the highway from 3 huge cuck orifices, feels sickening watch all the obese people enter and leave the building.

>>139673855
go start your own business then, dipshit

>>139674344
Oracle went to shit, huge diversity kick.

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>>139673855
>>none of them have traditional office dress codes
If your job is to sit at your desk and type all day, why the fuck should get dressed up for that?
Did you put on a suit to make this shitty thread?

>>139673855

Grow up, old man! What do you want? A soul-sucking cube farm?

Someone please tell me I didn't fuck up choosing Computer Science as my major

>>139675412
You probably need ver specific clothing and hairstyle to be succsessful

>>139675103
>kekistan flag
>degenerate who doesn't work in an office
Pottery. I actually enjoyed getting up in the morning, putting on my crisp, ironed clothes, and hopping in the car to work for the past two decades. The traditional office environment is something I found enjoyable and it put me in a nice routine. Remote work is just as if not even more degenerate than a playpen office.

>>139673855
ahahhahaha 20 years and yet you're so disposable make way for the new guard oldfag

>>139676399
Well, it depends on what job you want, but CS is fine and will translate to a bunch of computer-related careers.

>>139673855
>no visual privacy
>no sound privacy
>no scent privacy (perfume clouds, BO funk, queer designer coffee, potpourri shit)
>co-workers never shut the fuck up
>everyone all up in your business
>forced to be up in everyone else's business against your will
muh progressive workplace of the future

>>139676399
it's one of the biggest growth sectors

>>139676199
Is it really that bad? When I interviewed there in 2012 most everybody was white.

One thing that sux about pol >>Anon.
Some of us would hire you fuckers in a second. But apparently, you cant post jobs as "spergs need only apply."

>>139674103
you sound like a faggot

>>139676543
>>139676601
okay thank you

>>139676782
you sound like a nazi

Make video games, with hot anime babes

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>>139676877
what gave it away einstein

>>139676943
you were supposed to say I sound like a pirate

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>>139676491
>Remote work is just as if not even more degenerate than a playpen office.
>Working where you want to work is degenerate
Jesus just how much of a pleb are you?

>>139673855

Get a new job in the government or healthcare sector. They also need programmers building / maintaining software. It will be Dilbert land forever, high pay, and easy hours.

>>139673855
Do something about it.
Oh wait you won't because no one listens to people like you

>>139676565
Literally everything you listed is also an issue in cube farms.

>>139673855
Get a job as a consultant

>>139673855
Should I study business instead? Growing up I was dead set on working with computers for a living but the obvious millennial faggot takeover is ruining my perspective. What do?

>>139675103
>Fuck going into an orifice everyday. Only cucks do that.

Unintentional irony

>>139677064
And endless retardation.

If you really don't give a shit about computers but can fake it, then work there.

>>139676992
Pirates aren't gay though, it's just a meme.

>>139673855
>literally every interview is in a gay rehabbed loft playpen office where you can tell everyone just fucks around burning venture capital

I know a guy who works in a place exactly like this. They have life-size Jenga, skateboards, and all kinds of dumb shit. He makes like $800k a year tho

>>139673855
start your own company
you'll get way more done than these adult play-pens

>>139677031
A pleb that likes working in a traditional office, don't worry I'm not taking any of your precious remote jobs away from you.

>>139677301
>He makes like $800k a year tho
Damn that's almost as much as Jordan Peterson makes on Patreon

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>>139673855
welcome to hell

>>139676399
No CS is solid. Network and try to land an internship while you study

>>139676399
No, I had a full-time job at a Fortune 100 company before I even graduated with a 3.3 GPA.

>>139674927
>start your own company.

>>139677427
Kek

>>139673855

why wouldn't you want to spend those silly vc dollars? you could have been burning cigars and doing coke while writing code, but now you have to dip into savings. shame.

>>139677253

That part is obvious to OP because he's old and he wants faggot millennials like you off his lawn.

Or did you just feel the need to point it out for the other autistic shitheads in this thread who can't read his post?

>>139673855
make you own company
isn't the state investing in such companies in your country?
just do something thats "needed" and maybe you'll be funded

>>139677368
>likes working in a traditional office
haha wow I can't imagine how shitty your life must've been to make that seem enjoyable

>>139677256
you sound like a leaf

Have you considered starting your own company

>>139677674
I know you're just shitposting but I want work that has purpose. Contributing to such purposeless decadence is what is ruining the west.

>>139674103
says the queer

>in a gay rehabbed loft playpen office
hilarious. it's not just tech, I work in a totally diff industry that has same layout... and a huge fucking dancefloor... it's all so cringe-y

>>139677447
>Network
I have no idea how, im too autismo

>>139674103
Sounds right up your alley faggot.

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>>139675934
defending teachers
commie detected

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>>139676399
>cs
pros: $$$$
cons: you will become a tower dwelling insect, a soulless entity within the neoliberal hive. You will see your own reflection as you gaze upon your peers, and shudder in horror.

>>139678034
kek

>>139677742
I'm a Gen Xer thank you very much, and the latter.

I was annoyed by the "... high pay, and easy hours." which pissed me off because I work my ass off and most people do too to a degree, but there's always that lazy fuck who coasts in the fog of business.

>>139673855
MAKE your own company. I'll come

>>139677867

Best part is they all think they have a mission and are changing the world because they are brainwashed by Zuckerberg.

>>139673855
Kill yourself OP it is literally your fault late Boomer

>>139678096
You forgot the biggest con

You will no longer be the master of the computer it will be your master.

>>139677917
Sounds like the cancer has spread. Are these offices the new meme trend for any company that doesn't have anything useful to do with surplus cash?

>>139677867
>>139678096

googledrone here, these are spot on

>>139674624
wrong. it was gay before

>>139677809
Calm down Satan.

>>139678162

Good. We both agree that we hate OP as much as he hates his job options.

>>139673855
Jesus Christ you legitimately deserve to be shot. You fucking faggot, that's one offer some other more deserving guy missed because of a retarded dumbfuck like you. Please do the work a favor and off yourself already.

>>139675103
>Fuck going into an orifice everyday

Man, If I could come into an orifice every day, I'd be pretty happy.

>>139673855
Kys worthless white. I already popped out my 5th black baby and I LOVE knowing your white male paycheck gets cut in half for me and my family that's replacing you

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Sysadmins, network administrators and IT guys in general are red pilled as fuck.

Programmers, software developers and other CS cucks are typically faggots.

>>139674927
where? i need work

>20 years of experience under my belt at the same company

Fell for the career jew

>>139673855
Old people need to fuck off and die already. WAKE UP GRANDPA, NOBODY WANTS YOU AROUND ANYMORE

>>139673855
>>literally every interview is in a gay rehabbed loft playpen office where you can tell everyone just fucks around burning venture capital

>Muh fucking IT culture
>IT culture resembles parents basement

I agree. It's because millennials don't want to work. They want to hang out in their parents basement, so the office has turned into their parents basement.

I also hate that shit. I'd much rather just have a raise then a stupid item in the office I won't have time to use. It's literally just advertising for clients to make their staff seem "cool" and "hip", in reality, the actual workers never use it.

>>139673855
Maybe the mistake you're making is applying to "tech" companies. Truth is, tons of companies in every industry need automation.

I do automation for an aerospace manufacturer. It's pretty much what you're looking for.

>>139673855
Google

>>139678509
I only fuck old men because the 1 good things they Excel at is money. And they give it to me. I love it. I love using them like the worthless sheep they are

>>139674103
>faggot

>>139674103
You're such a retarded faggot. My question is, why? Why do you have to be such a faggot?

>>139674165
>and your tits are too big
fucking baloney tits classic

>>139675412
security consulting for small/midsize companies.
a lot of it is hardening servers, and systems architecture to protect customer data. It's shocking how bad of security some of these companies have. It's like they never even think of it until some asshole makes off with half their users' credit card info.

>>139677867
>I want work that has purpose

Then take a pay cut and do real work. Beat the rush before the tech bubble bursts and all the venture capital money dries up.

>>139678350
>implying they didn't just give it to the guy who came in second place

I work for a small Christian-owned automation consulting company. We dress business casual, all our hair is normal colors, and our office is a normal office. I love it.

>wah wah why don't my masters care about muh political feelings

just shut the fuck up and be productive, drone

>>139675949
>need a security clearance
protip, your security clearance is tied to your credit score

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>>139673855
>no degree
>8 years army reserve experience doing finance (44C)
>work in asset servicing for the world's largest custodian bank
>cushy ass job making 65k
>no wife or kids
>was a meeting for a few years before I got hired
>shitpost on /pol/ all day and literally putt golf balls around in my office
>mfw

hoping not to fall into this desu
i just got my degree

>>139678932
*was a neet
Phoneposting was a mistake

>>139678932
>slave hours away to slighty above standard wage

Nobody cares, wage-slave.

>>139677151
the people who actually want to work, will find work in tech.

>>139673855
>Why has tech become so culturally marxist?

Because boomers don't know the difference between "Tech nerd", and "Moron who cuts on themselves and dresses like a hipster"

>>139678350
>a fucking leaf

>>139679038
forgot trip.

>>139678343
I suggested to OP to apply to defense contractors but has not yet replied. >>139675949

You can get a job where they put you in for a security clearance and if you're not a degenerate, it will grant you access to an unlimited supply of red pills, and they don't tolerate playpen culture.

>>139674103
Get off our board faggot

>>139678667
based leef

>>139676199
LMAO I can imagine them getting to the SJW party late and How do you do fellow Millenialsing it, right as the inevitable backlash to this shit starts fermenting.

Remember, kiddies...

In a boomer run office of any kind, all employees look eachother in the eyes constantly, and shake eachothers hands all day long.

No actual work gets done, mind you... but they make a GREAT first impression!

>>139678889
I'd assume so to determine your risky behaviors, and susceptibility to influence via financial means.

Waaaaah

>>139678932


>65k

my sides

>>139677427
>The virgin non-binary person of color muslim coder.
>Vs
>The Chad coder

>>139674103
>You're the asshole because you wont' act as faggy as me!

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>>139679354
I'm 26, feels good all things considered. I have so much disposable income

>>139678932
>65k

Pathetic. Don't stop hopping jobs until you're in six figure territory at the least.

>>139675949
>>139679153
Defense contractor could be interesting, if nothing else. I presume you have experience in that field? What kind of developers are in high demand?

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>>139673855
>Why has tech become so culturally marxist?
to screw over non fag White males

its changing soon though

chin up

>wants to work in a cube farm wearing uncomfortable clothes all day instead of a comfy, non depressing environment

Why?

> 20 years with the same company

Dude I have 12 years db experience. I'm a Senior BI Engineer, angling for an architect gig.

I went from $45k in 2009 to $108k currently. I burned through 5 employers in that time currently on my sixth, and entertaining an offer from Amazon for $160. (Have to move to Seattle tho so not sure)

Dude

Whyyyyy the FUCK didn't you quit every 2 years and get a giant raise with a new employer? Literally no one gives a fuck, it's fucking standard.

That's why you got cut. You look like you have no initiative and too much PTO accrued.

At my current job I work with a guy who's been there 17 years. We have the same title and I probably make 20% more than he does.

And yea I wear tennis shoes to work.

>>139677806
I've worked my last 20 years more or less in offices too. hated it. now I'm free of that, only working remotely.

takes discipline, but way more enjoyable than watching everyday office politics.

>>139679492

Not being mean anon, its good for 26 but we pay our chinamen and pajeet outsourcers close to that

>>139673855
>none of them have traditional office dress codes
Get over it, wear what you want.

>>139674103
You're right. You're still going to hell though.

>>139679879
160 in seattle isn't shit, fair warning

Don't come to the bay for less than 200 nowadays its crazy expensive around the south Penninsual now

>>139673855
>traditional conservative tech company still exist?


Yes. In the defense industry. Serious.

>>139673855
>Does the traditional conservative tech company still exist?

Yes, start from the list of the largest and work your way down. You may like Microsoft.

>>139680102
Outsourced "talent" sucks ass. Half my job is cleaning up their messes the other half is doing shit they couldn't figure out in the first place.

Outsourcing isn't dead. Yet. But it's dying. Too many people like me got paged in the middle of the night to fix their million dollar customer facing catastrophes and we were extremely candid in documenting what happened after the fact.

But hey don't take my word for it

https://www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2016/01/19/outsourcing_on_downward_decline_for_2016_research/

>>139678385
*citation needed*

>>139680255
this guy knows what he is talking about. to get an apartment close to amazons SLU campus at 160 on a single income you might not qualify.

>>139679879
I'm not super interested in job hopping every two years, just thinking about it gives me anxiety. It had nothing to do with my lay off. I got cut because we got acquired and pretty much everyone had outlived their usefulness to our new corporate overlords. I started at $75k and by the end I was at $110k. Sure it's not amazing pay by any means but money has never been the end all be all for me, I've never been a big spender so after all my debt was paid off I'd just toss my surplus after bills into savings and my 401k. I have no debt, I own my house and car outright, I think I've done alright so far.

>>139679639
I'm on my 12th year at the same defense contractor.

We hire for anything really, but so much shit is on the web so we'll probably hire a solid javascript developer (with good fundamentals) on the spot. A solid Java and/or C/C++ person will make it to the in-person interview too.

Hit me up with any questions that you have about the defense industry.

>>139680753

where do the salaries top out?

>>139680255
That's what I was worrying about. I paid $266k for my 4 bedroom suburban home and drive 45 minutes to work.

4 bedroom homes in Seattle proper are like $800k to $1milly and up. Or I could get a home in a suburb there and commute 2 hours.

The interview was .. weird.

I think I'm gonna decline. Or offer like $130 to telecommute maybe. I don't know yet. It was a shit interview I'm getting a bad vibe. I interviewed well just suspicious they're shitty to work for.

But dude I'd be building their entire supply chain fleet.

move offshore and start your own company

>>139680753
Curious, how much did things change after Snowden? Is your company worried they might accidentally hire another autist to that decides he's going to be a hero?

>Graduated this May with a BullShit degree in CS
>No internship
>Looking for work

Did I dun goof?

>>139681638
see
>>139679037

defense

>>139678034
underrated

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>>139680915
Here's the salary range for my career combined with education within this area, so scale up (or down) based upon your area. This is in Charlottesville VA where real estate is cheap too. Up in MD you could look at 140, 160, but it costs more up there. You'd have to do the math though.

Our company generally pays better than most.

>>139681044
Snowden was mostly of an embarrassment to the DoD but also to the contractor (BAH) hired investigate and weed out these people. We don't run investigations for the government, and our software goes through rigorous testing and is always controlled by soldiers. When they accept and use our software, it's entirely out of our hands what they do with it. We just respond to requests to fix bugs, feature requests, etc...

>>139678385
I've found this to be true. I don't know why fags make so many shitty video games and people keep buying them.

>>139681638

This is my greatest fear.

I just want to graduate and slip into some entry level 9-5 no fuss.

But all I'm hearing is all this "you've got to network" memery.

Why the fuck can't people understand that I didn't get into CS because I love people.

>>139674165
His name was Robert paulson

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>>139674103

>>139684895
>Why the fuck can't people understand that I didn't get into CS because I love people.

Because the boomers that run America currently have no concept of a human being with value, unless that value is empty soulless posturing to make a good first impression.

Boomers do not hire based on job skill, they hire based on appearance and charisma.

So, naturally, any trade or field which requires LOTS of studying is going to suffer greatly in the United States because those with the mindset to actually understand the job don't spend all their time socializing to impress their boss.

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>>139677427
>Likes to build clocks

>>139677867

nah, i was being real. you should have taken the money, enjoyed the ride, then chased purpose when you could actually afford to.

>>139673855
>>senior programmer
>out of job

I don't believe you. There's such a shortage of coders out there that I know even fortune 500 companies are willing to overlook you're alt-right.

>>139676399
You didn't fuck up choosing computer science as your major.

>>139673855
you guys hate these millennials snowflakes, I majored in psych. These idiots with their fake problems pay me $200/hour, to say nice things to them. I'm making bank off of these idiots.

>>139686375
>I know even fortune 500 companies are willing to overlook you're alt-right.

h-1b

Why hire a competent coder, when you can hire 5 incompetent coders for the same price?

>>139679391
this could maybe actually be a good one, but this meme turned to cancer quick, not all of them but some attempts are fucking retarded and changing the pattern too much

>>139674103
Kys faggot

>>139673855
Can you do your job remotely? If not, get a job with some Asian company desu

>>139673855
What do you know about machine learning?
Want to come work for me?
Pay's pretty good, and the food's free.

>>139674103
multicolored hair detected

>>139679849
Open-space offices are dogshit. They only work well for very-small companies (less than 10 people). Many recent studies have further proven that. They're too noisy, making it hard for people to concentrate and work. They encourage procrastination and messing around with the neighbors way too much. At the same time, they increase stress because if the manager (or a coworker) is misbehaving, it's extremely hard to subtly reach out to HR and it's not possible to talk in private. Moreover, they're a nightmare when privileged information is supposed to be handled.

Did you try turning it off and on again?

>>139673855
I feel you anon, we got bought by an american company and the same shit happened.
Saving ran low that's for sure

And I just want to code cool shit, I don't want to work with wankers that don't do their fucking job

You always have the option on starting you own shit, though ofc it comes with risks. I run my own stuff now. We don't got this infestation so bad as you over here, but there are a lot of idiots here too. Places where you can't fucking smoke, because dats ebin and they start to nag you about you personal life which is a BIG nono here. We're a private people

Most cool stuff here expect army shit, which I don't want to deal with, has been sold off too

>>139688776
ml is pretty cool desu, you should listen to him op. Pretty hot field these days, sadly here it's not so much fancy jobs within field. Again except for military shit, well we got some in the power sector too, I've worked with that actually, but it's just corrupt crocks there

>>139673855
Happened to me too.
But I adjusted, starting writing a novel, love it. Signed up for classes. Can't get enough. Anon, you have 10-15 years left. Time to start working on life after work.

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>>139674927
underrated

>>139674103
You'd know all about assholes wouldnt you, faggot?

I'm thinking of starting a business later in life.

How do I prevent from getting "diversified"?
by that I mean the government forcing me.
I don't want to hire females and other races just because of "diversity" or whatever it is.
I might hire one or two if I know them personally though or if they are actually qualified though.

I'd like to know more about the laws regarding with business in this country.
Any anons know anything?

>>139673855
Hear working as an engineer in finance is where the money's at.

You get shitty millennial culture everywhere. My buddy had coworkers ask him if he was interviewing because he wasn't wearing sneakers

But for the love of all that's good, stay away from the game industry

>>139691448
Just say they do not qualify or something. If you handle all of the hirings, you should not have a problem. Why would you not hire a white woman?

You deserve everything bad that happens to you. Remember that.

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>>139691838

>>139675317
Doing the same (making an android app)
But I'm hoping to use the capital to get more capital by starting a business (anything to do with tech and then expand)

>>139678736
Pentesting?
I've thought of doing that.
I know a bit about security.
Is it possible for me just to ask companies to run some pentests while learning as I go?
I know basic stuff already. Surely just using the free security software available right now is good enough and I could do a better job than the pajeets in india running nessus and copy pasting the results.

I just want to have a business where I can start developing my own ideas I have myself. But I need to start somewhere

>>139691804
I wouldn't hire a white woman if she was a sjw or got bad vibes off of her.
If she's qualified then I'd be fine hiring her.

I'll probably only have one black person in my company, he's a friend who's studying business right now.

>>139674103
Consider killing yourself

>>139673855
Fuck you old man there's no reason I should have to sit in fucking dress clothes like I'm at fucking church while I try to code all day
olds farts like you can't even learn new languages and need to be fired nationwide

>>139673855
start your own company & sftu

>>139673855

Yes. But get out of the west. Midwest is just fine anon.

>>139675647
outsourcing meme is true in corporate. But yeah, small to midsize companies can't get pajeets because corporate monopolizes it pretty much.

>>139673855
with 20 years experience can't you just start your own business or freelance?

>>139678889
INTERESTING. My 760 score has real power.

>>139673855
You should "hack the planet," man.

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>>139674103
>A faggot talking about assholes
That is why you will die of AIDS, queer

>>139691880
Deep

>>139673855

Start your own company.

>>139674927
Could you answer my question if possible?
VVV
>>139691963

>>139673855
You need to apply to a defense contractor or DoD.

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>>139674165
Holy Kek

>>139673855
>Does the traditional conservative tech company still exist?
No sir.

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I want my cubicle back
it was quiet and I could work in peace

>>139673855
>20 years working
>the first thing he does after getting fired is job hunt
Retard american who can't save/invest. I worked for ten years and retired before 33. Also no-kids/wife tho.

this thread is making me wish I had done a proper degree and not a meme.

Now I'm stacking shelves, but at least it's physical labour that keeps me occupied from how shitty the world is and there's no SJW cultural marxist retardation in it.

>>139699610
no one cares, you will die just like the rest of us.

>>139673855
>20 years of experience
If this was true, you should be applying for a VP/senior architect role at any of the big giants, and you would be put in your own private floor with a lovely female assistant and other executives and BoD who wear "Wall Street"-esque attire.

>>139699956
Don't worry, at least 99% of these "ceos making 6 figures" are neets larping. You will see them later on /b/ begging for games.

>>139673855
Have you considered applying to Microsoft?

>>139675847

Look at the butthurt!

OP is on the money. The real economy will wipe you faggots out and put you back to being baristas.

>>139673855
Go work in manufacturing, they always need IT to make things that sack labour off.

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>>139699347

Keep the stapler safe.

>>139677809

Your dumbass just got owned very publicly

>>139678611

>Excel

>>139680509
Hurray!

Its because of blue demon hillary clinton

these conservative tech companies you speak of all sold out or laid everyone off to hire pajeets with visas

Our messiah aLeXJoEns fortold of this day

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>>139691559
>mfw I just wanted to make fun games, but industry has gone insane
One good thing is that it might crash again

You dirty anon scum still believe in your false gods, come to the one true god that our messiah prays to, ronald rump

>>139673855
>not wanting to go full retard at your job

Look at this anon fag posting pic of
bf1

>>139673855
> junior programmer
Hi dad!

Only dirty millenial left wing tards play bf1, true fact

>>139673855
Because business research learned that cutting workers some slack with dress code and stuff like that actually makes them more comfortable, therefore less stressed and more productive over the long haul.

>20 years in the same company
>still developper

Developper is something you do when you get out of school, not after 20 years in the same company.

What the fuck went wrong with your career?

>>139675793
*$ has a strict refugee hiring only policy.

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>>139678034
fucking lel

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>>139674103

>>139674501
Jokes on the degree holders.

I ain't got no degree and work in IT.

>>139688776
Skynet is Genesis

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Pull the plug on machines before they take over

>20 years
>At the same company

Is this normal? Why didn't you look for something better?

>>139702997
>it might crash again
I'm sure a crash would just destroy mid-sized and indie studios. (AKA places that MIGHT not be fucked by leftist HR managers) It would solidify games as propaganda.

>>139678096
>Gets IT

>>139678385
>there is a difference between programming and sysadmin
555

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>all those good salaries you have

Well, 28k in a country like Spain is not that bad considering I already paid my 2 flat house right?

...right?

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>>139676399
YA DUN GOOFED

>>139704442
It's something called loyalty. I like my employer too.

>>139704762
>It's something called loyalty
Loyalty isn't a thing anymore. Workers quickly learned that employers will treat them the same whether they are loyal or not. If employers want to keep employees they must award loyalty.

Keep it going, bump for fellow software bros

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>no education
>work history is minor labor jobs and cooking
>job search online
>sign up with military contractor as labor
>45k+/year
>get gibs when there's no contract
*hand rubbing intensifies*

>>139704307
this, I did the same thing
all you need to do is get a few easy certifications, should be more than enough to get your foot in the door

>>139688776
man i got a math bsc and 4 years experience in applied math modelling and analytics, but i cant find a job anywhere. im currently doing a deep learning online course and blasting through it. hopefully going to do a good project.

>>139704729

How much does IT makes over there? like average I mean

>>139685886
Their incapacity to understand meritocratic hiring is papered over with credentialism and unrealistic experience requirements. Without the capacity to see past first impressions and recognize actual skill, something else must be resorted to as a block against the development of facile nepotism.

>>139673855
I certainly hope I haven't fucked up by deciding to do a Bachelors for IT next year. I could do Business or Psychology but Psychology is kinda shit rn.

>>139678667
Reported to RCMP

>>139674165
And you're too fucking blonde, nigger.

>>139673855
Nomad time my friend, I spend half the year outside of the country touring on my bike while working for the same clients.
Indonesia is pretty nice and cheap or SA if you know Spanish, start that part-time retirement now and travel the world.

>>139674836
don't fall for it, OP. Don't lie, faggot. Your "business" is just a My Little pony porn site where you fuck older out of work tech workers on a casting couch in horse costume.

Post the link when you're up and running, I'm into that and I'll be your biggest costumer, but still... you're a faggot.

>>139686827
>this could maybe actually be a good one
No it couldn't because the basis of the meme was that the stuff the virgin was doing in Quentin's pictures was actually pretty fucking normal, and then someone made a Chad variation taking the Virgin stuff to the complete opposite to show how retarded portraying the Virgin stuff as abnormal was. It couldn't be a good one if you were portraying the Chad in a positive light because that's not the point of the original fucking images.

Then retards got a hold of it and missed the point completely. The meme peaked with the Virgin Island/Chad Republic, it's pretty much worthless now.

>>139702997
This
Sadtiems
Godspeed Poland