>Be in philosophy class >inb4 meme degree >professor

>>139660831

I am with you white brother

Bloody smug anti-intellectuals have completely taken over academia and closed it to all new ideas.

Drop out

You are in an marxist indoctrination camp, you fuckin retard. Only the dumbest goys will pay for mindrot in the current year.

>>139660831
>Jordan Peterson was more right than I thought possible about the state of humanities education.
>What do? How do I make it through a semester of this without being labeled a nazi?

I have no Idea. In Poland we are very pro free spech compared to western Europe and USA. On you place I would stay silent. Maybe act as you did. The marxist would eradicate us if we were to speech openly is such situations.

>>139660831
>watching jordan peterson
first of all, stop listening to that fruity faggots voice, just read transcripts of what he has said

Just larp as a fucking retard. I did it, it was the only way I could make friends with this power level.

>>139660831
just drop out
higher education is a fucking meme, it's self-perpetuating at this point
the only new jobs that open up are jobs to teach the shit you learned

Grow some fucking balls and speak up you pathetic faggot.

If they're so wrong your should be easily able to prove it.

>>139660831
>i was a coward irl and now i'm venting in my safe space to /pol/

>>139660831
>doing anything but STEM

I feel bad for you

>>139661493
this bong is the only one with balls in this thread
half the fun is watching their wheels turn as they try to find a loophole in your argument

Stop being such a spineless faggot. Go to a doctor and get your test levels checked

>>139661542
University gen ed requires classes outside your area of focus.

>>139660831
In my STEM studies I was required to take a philosophy course for a written English requirement. I just slept in the back of the class and passed with a C with absolutely no effort.

>>139660831
> not able to argue in a philosophy class due to social pressure
> philos: love. sophy: knowledge
> american """"""""philosophy""
theres no philosophy in a class that doesnt care for the truth

>>139660831
Just slog through it and get a good grade. You might suffer, but in the end, psychological pain is not real pain.

>>139661715
what's gen ed?

>>139661493
when they mention the evidence I'd cite ironically it ceases to be a functional argument. It'd just be a shouting match over the reliability of "sources." We'd be sparing over axioms and getting nowhere.
Like the abortion debate between a christian and someone who thinks it's just a mass of cells.
Not to mention how completely suicidal it is to an educational career, as well as a continuing professional career, to entertain these arguments, especially in the current US climate.

Thank god I graduated college around 2012 before all this SJW identity politics shit really ramped up to crazy level. I would not have survived even 3 months of the rhetoric you just described.

>>139661985
As part of this course we had 4 assignments and 1 final exam. The assignments were for us to cut out an article from the local newspaper and highlight the arguments and conclusion and comment about it on a separate piece of paper. These assignments were each worth 10 percent. The final exam was 100 multiple choice questions that any competent person with common sense could pass with no prior knowledge of the course material. That class was such a joke. And that was just 1 class.. I can't imagine the others

>>139662261
General education.
Basically common core at a uni level.
So some math, some humanities, some art, some science, and depending on your major you have to take some classes that fall outside of it.
This is why we have music majors taking calculus and Engineers taking early modern philosophy.
Back when a "liberal education" was not a dirty word I think it did help to raise the intellectual capacity of our society, but at this point in time it's nothing but a hinderance.

>>139660831
>>someone mentions all of these "ironically" and implies they're taken to absurdity or for some reason unreliable.

Uh, if they can recite all of these arguments off the top of their head there's a pretty fucking good chance they're on your side, dimwit. The implied irony is to cover their ass while floating trial balloons.

>>139660831
Don't bring up IQ tests.
Bonus points if you don't use the word "race", but culture.

Approach your arguments from a sociological standpoint, and don't defer to emotion. Do not use the word "stupid", and do not use the word "superior" in reference to a particular culture.

If your professor insists on dragging you into a "purely philosophical" context, retort with the issue being of a contemporary nature, and if the very concrete and contemporary "white nationalism" we know of today is the subject, rather than some abstract "<race> nationalism", present-day facts are required to provide an adequate basis for your argument.

In short, he's basically giving you a sociology assignment.

Philosophical discussion should be as detached as possible from contemporary issues, especially political ones, except when used as examples for the purpose of deconstruction.

>>139661252
They already have, you mute rag. Fight back.

>>139662610
So is gen ed the system that's in place for everybody, or is it a choice?

>>139660831
Mate why are you such a cuck? Why the fuck didn't you speak up? You don't have to go full 14/88, instead just discuss the facts. Jesus Christ you are a pathetic fucking faggot.

>>139662730
To elaborate: Try wording your exposition in such a way that the reader will reach the conclusion you are after, without explicitly stating it anywhere.

>>139660831
>tfw my philosophy professor used naturalism to explain why homosexuals, trannies and even furries are immoral

>>139660831

americans low test cucks

>>139660831
lol fag I would have rekt that entire room
don't be a pussy next time. i've been attacked by people and it doesn't hurt faggot

>>139660831
Face them. Show them wrong. If they say you're racist, sexist or whatever, just say that's not an argument. Or, even better, show them they're the racists, sexists and so on

>>139660831
you deserve it

sounds like you're talking to a bunch of retards

>>139660831
>muh iq crime stats Africa history welfare education haiti single parent
>literally all irrelevant in the grand scheme of things
When does /pol/ finally take the redpill and realize muh culture is irrelevant to genetic superiority and all that matters is survival of the fittest which blacks and minorities are currently winning at?

>>139662305
You sound like a pussy, bitch.

>>139660831
You could've just written "I'm a pussy" instead of all that.

>>139663131
survival of the fittest =/= genetic superiority you mong

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>>139660831
this

>it kills the /pol/ack

>>139662837
That's the point baka, the general ed courses are required so that people don't just take classes devoted to their major. It's supposed to make you well-rounded, not just a worker drone, but since classes are so shit these days it just makes university more miserable.

>>139660831
Grow a pair. I'm about to present a defense of fascist ideals on my next mandatory sociology class, because no one is keeping me from doing it. Jesus, it is not like you live on western Europe or something...

>>139660831
>Jordan Peterson
No. He is a little boomer bitch trying to "negotiate" with the inevitable collapse of society so that he will get to continue spending shekels and living a comfy life. Don't fall for his faggotry, cleaning your room won't do shit to stop the train and neither will "BTFOing postmodernism".

Just raise your hand after such a discussion and ask the following.

Do you hate your own ethnicity?


No follow up questions, no discussions, just that question.

>going to school for humanities
What can they teach you that you can't learn yourself from the millions of books and videos available to you right now? You're not a chemist in need of lab instruction right? Do you intend to teach then?

>>139660831
Just be calm and raise you hand and either say "well I think that what they think is" or "to play devil's advocate" and state the evidence.

If you actually know the evidence that is. If you can't support your claims with specific evidence then don't bother.

>>139662837
You have to finish it as a pre-requisite to earning your degree.

>>139662837
For everyone in the university. It varies between university's slightly, but they all have to be accredited and have curriculum that meets the requirements.
You have your gen ed requirements, then your major/area of focus requirements.

>>139660831
School is your job. It's not your community, your family, or your friends. You're there to put in your time and get out with something useful. What other people at school believe, what they talk about, these things don't matter. You shouldn't care about their opinions. They don't care about yours. Do the work, and when the day's work is done, associate with people of your choosing.

Ignore all the vendettas from fags that failed to "speak up" in their own classes. More than likely you can skip most of the days and just show up for exams. Not worth wasting energy "fighting the legbeards" when you can just cruise through. No one cares about your opinions in there and it's not like you're gonna rewrite dykal takeover in 3 months via some gened class. Suck it up.

>>139663272
>survival of the fittest =/= survival of the fittest you mong
Continue sperging on the internet while based blacks breed you out of existence. Hell even science proves whites are genetically unfit and deserve to be bred out of existence

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/sperm-count-dropping-in-western-world/

>>139663201
/thread

>>139663397
>>139663586
>>139663600
Wow that sucks, it's a shit system imo

You're supposed to get all that general knowledge in high-school, and then in University you should be able to really focus on your specilasation and not being forced into taking bullshit unrelated classes.

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>>139660831
I went through the same experience, was a philosophy major, and did reveal my power level: I'd given up on getting laid and new the degree was worthless but was just following through on inertia. Made me villainous, but I enjoyed it: 1) for reasons previously stated; 2) it felt good holding off a crowd; 3) I was convinced I was speaking the truest things I knew, and that if life had any meaning, that meant something. Do not regret.

>>139663910
Must've been nice to have a teacher that didn't fail you for being so brace. What a hero.

>>139661542
>Leaving Social Sciences to the Marxists
Max Weber would be disappointed of you.

>>139663899
High school, at least public schools, over here are basically day care centers designed to keep the unemployable youth out of mischief.
If you show up more than half the time you will pass. You have to put serious effort into fucking up to not get a diploma.
Not counting my out of school individual learning, education stopped for me at jr high. The started again in college.

>>139660831
>mind state of a faggot
And nothing happened but you being a coward bitch. Maybe you have no power level at all?

>>139664158
it's already too late

>>139662305
You have to learn to disprove the arguments of the other side.

>>139663910
I'm not put together enough to do this. /autism/ I can write well but I'm a shit speaker. So I'd inevitably end up fucking it up and just making my life difficult and harming the cause.

>>139660831
Around election time, I argued the necessity of "building a wall" in a project, I asked if I needed to document and he said "nah, it's just a thought experiment", when I got my result, he said "well you didn't document" seeming to take very personally what I had written.

>be me
>in utah
>have to take a philosophy class
>teacher ridicules socialism and communism
Its simple dude, go to a state like utah or some shit, bang some jack mormon chick, and make fun of nonwhite scum.

>>139662837
Studium Universale/Generale

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>>139660831
>My brain is banging itself against the inside of my skull in hopes of losing consciousness
topkek

>>139660831
>>139662305
>Not to mention how completely suicidal it is to an educational career
It really isn't. You just have no balls.
Maybe you would face social vilification for your opinions, but if you are able to argue your points logically and fairly, there isn't a whole lot they can do to you.

>>139663131
They will attack you for being a Social Darwinist.

>>139663624
This.
It's just fucking uni. Your opinion is not important. Theirs isn't either. Listen to them and if you don't like it, fuckem. If you ever feel like giving your opinion, do it. If they don't like it, fuckem. I simply doesn't matter. Just move on.

>>139663899
I agree entirely. Some high schools do offer "honors" classes or "higher education" classes that, if you complete while on high school, will earn you credits to use in college that means you do not have to take the college version of the classes, but sadly, those special classes are only offered at certain times at certain schools, and you usually have to either pay for them out of pocket, like you do college, (even if it is taken at a public high school), or certified by another teacher to even get into the class, sometimes both. Also, these classes are usually English / math / science based, meaning that if you need a specific credit, like a socio econmoic / humanities credit, you will have to just go to a university to earn it. This would not be so bad if it was not for the fact that Gen Ed usually involves credits outside of your field, like if you are business major or chemist major, your university will probably still make you take random ass "Feminist Literature 101" course, just to finish up your gen-ed so you can take your higher level core classes to get your actual specific degree you are wanting.

If American universities offered more alternatives to these random Gen Ed classes, it would be fine, but as you can already tell, in the US political climate, more and more universities are conforming to seem "progressive", hence far more mandatory left-leaning oriented learning classes to teach us "diversity", and "the power of women on modern literature".

Oh, and God forbid you go to Art School. They crank the SJW shit up to eleven there. I had a fat trans YouTuber for an art teacher in three of my classes I need to earn my degree. Every day I had to learn about "Women's suffrage / oppression", even when it was unrelated to the animation lesson. It was the worst.

>>139664403
Well, all I can say is that if it's your major, FUCKING CHANGE IT. I don't care how passionate you are. Read Plato on your own time. I have a 3.82 GPA Phil. degree that I'd gladly trade for a handjob and a bacon, ham, pineapple pizza.

>>139664707
Kid got kicked out of uni last year (or maybe 2 years ago) for posting """"racist""" comments on yikyak

>>139663468
They will say: No, that's an absurd conclusion.

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>>139660831
Surely the answer is to roll over and take it like a bitch right? Isn't that what you want us to do? Justify your behavior?

Stop complaining to your blog, work hard to outperform your peers, speak what you believe to be the truth.
Namaste

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>>139660831
You deserve this for going to college you nerd fuck.

>>139660831
You a a beta male
Enjoy your conditioning

>>139661985
My college GPA was a 3.4 when I finished. I straight A or B+ my engineering, math, and physics classes but straight C'd all my gen eds.

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>>139660831
>>139663600
Why didn't you speak up in your class? You didn't have to go full 14/88. Don't say you're a white supremacist. Instead just say that there are, in fact, some differences between the races. Also point out that every race practices racism. Not just whites. Talk about black supremacists or separatists, like the Nation of Islam and Malcolm X.

Here are some socially acceptable differences between races you can mention:

1) The prevalence of blood groups differs between races.
2) Asian Flush (where Asians go red after drinking alcohol) is a genetic condition which originated in China. This is why nearly 50% of Chinese and Japanese people have it, but in most parts of the world, 0% of people have it. See pic related, a map which shows the prevalence of two genes which cause Asian Flush (light green causes moderate Asian Flush, dark green causes more severe Asian Flush).
3) Sickle Cell Anaemia is vastly more common among Africans. It's thought this is to do with the fact that Sickle Cell provides protection against malaria, or something like that, so Africans have developed Sickle Cell as a protection mechanism. But of course Sickle Cell reduces the lifespan, because it causes blood blockages (the average life expectancy for people with Sickle Cell, in the developed world, is 40-60 years old - much lower than normal). Which is probably why those of us in countries with a much smaller risk of malaria don't have this genetic condition.

Then go in with other redpills, like the fact that cranial capacity differs between races (largest in Asians, who also have highest IQs). Also point out that the NBA and NFL are mostly black, and nobody seems to be rushing to create diversity programmes for those leagues. Point out that Asian-Americans have the highest salaries, and they are also the demographic that spends the most on education, and Asian countries like Singapore, South Korea, Japan do the best in child education ratings.

Hope this helps. Use tact.

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>>139660831
>going to university in the Zionist millennium.

Ooooooo boyo get ready to be hosed

>>139664994
I would take the right one, left one looks dry.

>>139664953
Your uni? Are you fucking serious? In the US?
Fucking transfer. My uni stands for free speech and open transfer of ideas.

>>139663899
No, then the University isn't better than just a plain apprenticeship.

>>139665042
to this I can only imagine they would accept that there are racial differences but that despite these no race is superior to another. None of those examples hit the "superior" chord.

>>139664914
That really sucks, cause now leftism is going to be equated with "being educated"

>>139664953
isn't yikyak anonymous? did they actually go through the effort to dox them?

>>139665208
I believe their reasons were rooted in the "student conduct" rules and regulations.
As you may or may not know, these rules, the same which include things like plagiarism and cheating, now have sections relating to "hate speech"
So they have the legal legs to back up expulsion over shit lording.

>>139665208
hate speech is not free speech

>>139660831
stop being a cucked faggot and speak oyour truth - it's the only way you get better at articulating your ideas

>>139664340
It's never too late.

>>139664707
This. Also women do appreciate strong men.

>>139665441
It's linked to your phone number, so no.
I imagine they contacted the app devs and they surrendered the relevant information.

>>139665542
literal thought police. Sorry you have to be stuck in that marxism infested shithole

>>139665271
Yes that's true. Like I say, you shouldn't defend the position of white supremacy (because yes, you'll probably get in shit). But if they're attacking things like The Bell Curve (which is obviously NOT a white supremacist book, and is indeed scientifically credible), then defend them.

Basically if they're saying there are no facts to support the races being different then say "no, there actually are".

Well I mean, do what you want. I did some philosophy classes at university by the way, and you really should speak up when you have a thought on your mind, it's the best way to learn how to argue. If people are idiots then tell them they're idiots. I'm really not a massively confident person and I wasn't at the time, but when it came to arguments, I knew I was smarter than other people, so I just told them why they're wrong, and it was always awesome (I mean, it didn't make me many friends, but who cares - I'd rather be smart and correct. And I did make *some* friends.)

>>139660831

>how a white supremacist...
utilizing data and analogy, like any other argument; possibly subject to flaws, distortion and bias, like any other view
I'd say the fundamental problem, however, is ethical, the question to be answered is "are all human beings equal?", I like to think that we, at least in some fundamental measure, and I know that liberal societies think we are, but from a purely philosophical standpoint, I don't think there we can possibly reach a definite answer, so in the end it's a matter of culture really

>"bell curve...
well, from my reading of the book, and from my limited statistical knowledge, I don't really think it should be so controversial, further studies have failed to disprove the statistics which is the meat of the book, and I feel like it points to a good liberal direction: we should investigate how intelligence is formed, and what conditions are leading to the differences in different populations, so we can correct for it and reduce inequality

>"change someone's mind...
people get literally psychologically hurt and dig their heels on the ground when you prove them wrong, so arguing can backfire on an individual basis, but still, it's these individual arguments that produce the greater culture shifts that make people change their minds, not shutting down people, so it's important to keep having them no matter what

>"arguments that aren't even...
no, free speech is the most valuable concept to come out of western liberal democracies, it is the basis of our free societies: of the free press, of expression and identity, of a fair judicial system. free speech should be protected at all costs. even hate speech should be allowed. when ideas are discussed in the open, the bad ones can be fiercely refuted; when they are kept in the dark, they fester; refusing to have this arguments comes from a place of intellectual laziness or fear, it's inexcusable

>>139664953
If he said "Gas the Kikes" in a country run by them he doesn't have to be surprised.

>>139661493
Redpilling commies is near impossible once they reach a certain stage of indoctrination i.e. the point of no return.

You can show them mountains of proof that certain demographics are destroying the west and guess what? They don't fucking care. They're HAPPY about it. They have no interest in having children or creating a better safer West. They don't give a shit about anything outside their selfish little bubble. They hate the west and want to see the democratic system dismantled. This is where they see eye to eye with Muslims.

People do change though. I've had friends who dabbled in socialist theory and now they're redpilled. It can happen but the person has to be willing to open themselves up to it. Some never learn, some will through some personal experience which triggers a strong emotional reaction and changes their outlook. Remember with lefties it's an appeal to emotion.

>>139660831
Fake and gay. Feminists don't take philosophy classes because philosophy is antithetical to the way women think.

t. philosophy major

>>139660831
Are you white, male, and with Blonde/blue eyes? If 2 of them, then you are fucked for life afterwards anyways and that degree path you chose is pointless before you even started. So say what you want, when you want. You are already the villain in their book, just fit the part.

>>139660831
revenge comes later

suck it up sunshine

>choosing philosophy in today's faggot order

just pass it and move on, it'll be much funnier

>>139660831
BS you coward. It's all in your head. Just remain collected and argument-based. You just think those grills will let you fuck them if you remain in their good book. The opposite is true.

stop being a nazi might help

>>139665684
The author of Bell Curve is still a white supremacist though.

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Every time you bite your tongue, you die a little on the inside. I used to let my autism fly in college (the way it's supposed to be) and I will be proud for the rest of my life. Do it for the rest of us son

>>139665017
To tell the truth i went through conditioning
Picture class high school 6th period
Teacher talks about how racism is still alive
Shows picture of trump
Lets share feelings
Im the slient anon in the back
(No wonder this class has no budget
Red edpilled way before this
Its probably a left society)
End of the year i felt lost and guilt i was transformed
Dont let it happen to you, higher education is shit its called blue pilling and it forced down your mouth because you paid for it

I agree with your professor and your class. Arguments sometimes cannot change a persons mind. Some arguments are just too abhorrent to have, like, why is murder wrong. That example is if the person you're talking to lacks any sort of empathy. Such people are mentally ill or have just grown up in terrible circumstances that have shaped them so and cannot be reasoned with by simple arguments. Example: believing the government is conspiring against you, or, as has happened before, believing the Jews are attempting to conquer your country and the world.
These people should be immediately locked up in mental institutions for rehabilitation, or if they are young and the case isn't severe should have obligatory therapist sessions.
If this is not done, their damaged psyche will continue to run rampant and conjure more and more delusions, like that the government is attempting to wipe out their race or that they are being poisoned by vaccines and such. This accumulation of delusions will continue until it reaches critical levels and manifests itself and people die, as was seen recently, and as was seen 75 years ago.
I only hope that you will be dealt with soon, before another bloodbath ensues - which you will lose have no doubt, don't let the high concentration of your ilk here deceive you.

>>139665821
Well, 10 % are redpilled, 10 % are Commies but the rest is HUGE. You can change their minds. That's how Trump won.

>>139665876
Feels good living in Germany because Merkel's guests don't go to University and our Turks are too stupid. So nearly everyone is white.

>>139660831
Overly emotional and irrational people can only be emotionally manipulated or physically removed. Not argued with.

>>139662730
>>139662967
he should use "group of people" instead of the proposed "culture", as "culture" would be technically incorrect

>>139663468
mooi

>>139663899
University for them is highschool level in Europe, unfortunately

>>139664353
correct, by the time you are 35, you have to be prepared for absolutely everything, from ruling a country to being a poorass beggar in wartime

>>139666402
Kek. Not the post you'd expect on /pol/.

But it touches an important point: Is there an objective moral?

>>139660831
>Be in philosophy class

Kill yourself

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>>139660831
You pay money for this?

>>139660831
You know, you can ask your professor to argue against those points without acknowledging your own stance. If he tries to confront on being a "fucking white male" you can just claim to be a jew concerned with the rise of white identity.

>screaming
>reeeeeeing
>tongue chewing
>grit teeth
>clenching
>hope to loose consciousness

just fuck my shit up haircut.jpg

no (you)'s for you today son.

>>139666886
> Is there an objective moral?
Not really. Morality is now defined by what works in the West but has been de-railed again by a church, called Liberalism.
>infanticide
>child sex
>gayness
>ritualized killing
>sexing animals
All those things have been morally correct for most societies and are morally correct now for some tribes left in a primitive state.
>a tribe in the Amazon practices euthanasia on old people
>old people afraid of a young man who is known for killing them in their sleep, afraid to nap around the tribe.
Humans will do damned near anything and justify it.

>>139660831
and that folks - is how school shootings start.
OP just change classes? or maybe bring in earphones to use during these situations

>not opening your mouth

pussy ass bitch

>>139666402
Racist jokes hold some credibility
The jews held the money during ww2
Whites and blacks dont get along
The japs are squinty eyed

Every joke was made for a reason and if that joke held the test of time than oga booga

>>139660831
Philosophy isn't a meme degree. Low IQ people aren't interested enough to do philosophy. It's full of lazy shits though.

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>>139660831
simple, since you are afraid to speak up in a room full of lunatic hysterics, as you wish to belong to their world, you should just KYS faggot

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>>139660831
>paramedic student in Ontario
>be in psychology elective
>teacher starts saying only women are sexually objectified
>*oh no you didn't.avi
>pulls up slide with magazine covers and ads
>top right is a male model seducing a female
>teacher stars drawing points and pointing fingers at misogyny
>interrupt her half way through
>logically argue with every point she makes
>class is 90% female nursing students
>eventually their arguments resort to "you're such a pig anon, can someone over there slap him!?"
>"see, if I requested a man to hit you they would get expelled"
>class litterally explodes in female rage
>all they can say is "I be you never had a girlfriend you massageanist"
>after class a cool dude walks up and congradulates me on standing up to the teacher
>pass class with 80

>>139665222
and you think it's better now?

>>139660831
Be calm brother, the semester is rising.
Save your ki for a later battle which is sure to come.

In my sociology class they redefined the words "minority" to mean people who don't have power and "majority" to people who have power, not just numbers. So when white people become a minority they can just say "well you guys are a majority because you have power and therefore oppression against you is not only okay but morally justifiable"

>>139661493
This. Just make sure you bring some molyneux level arguments or at least be good at philosophy

Don't bother OP. You will never change their mind.
I had problems with marxists at college too. Slightly different though: I'm econ major and many of my professors were old people with marxist economics in their minds (socially ultraconservative though). I would often start arguing with them when they started to spew complete nonsense. The only good thing that came out of it was gaining the reputation of someone who knows his subject by my peers. My grades went to shit though, the professors would do everything to keep me down. And of course, not a single one of them changed his or her mind.
The benefits of arguing with your teacher are little in the first place, yet alone when you're risking being expelled (I wasn't at all) and ruining relationships with your classmates (which you definitely will in your situation). Next time your professor starts talking shit, put on your earphones and play a videogame on your phone. The time has not come yet for you to reveal your powerlevel. Be more machiavellian.

>>139667367
they also changed the definition of racist so that only white people can be racist

>>139661215
Idk I majored in Philosophy and CS just a few years ago and nothing was this bad. I think OP is an autist. Or if he's not then things have gotten a lot worse in a short period and it's time to start killing marxists.

>>139667408
You mean lie or omit info and say something isn't an argument if you can't think of a counter? Wow no wonder you guys are retarded.

>>139666202
No, no he isn't.

If you can't state a dissenting opinion without risking your college career, is higher education anything more than just an indoctrination camp?

>>139667367
Dont think like that anon if you start to believe it than the shills will dull your senses to your truth

>>139667597
Not an argument

>>139667597
not an argument

>>139667512
I've taken other philosophy class before that was highly conservative - basically jordan peterson before he was famous.
It's primarily the professor here. Thats the problem with these departments, there's no set curriculum and someone with marxist ideas can indoctrinate an entire class.

>>139665350
It always was, in a way. I mean, think about it; the average Joe automatically, on some level, will associate left-leaning ideology to that of modernist city types, where as the right-wing associated beliefs seem to be tied to the image of American rednecks, and things of that nature. Obviously there is some correlation, but as adults we learn to see that things are not so black and white, and by looking into things ourselves, we find that many of the world's greatest minds in history were right-minded people. Sadly, despite how easy it is to point out the flaws on all sides, in this political climate, to criticize the left at all will make you seem right-leaning, and right-leaning folk are seen as simpler people, akin to hicks, which are now akin to racism, which now means we must all be nazis! Now with the American Education system going all the way to the left, this will only further misinterpret that image.

I know a few instructors who spoke out about these things and, guess what? They all got fired from the university, despite having taught there for over a decade, and now are teaching at different universities, ones that pay less and ask for more. They have not spoken out about politics at all since then, even when relevant to the discussion, as they fear their careers would again be jeopardized, and, honestly, I do not blame them at this point. It is is just fucking sad. Worst thing is that it is just another step for the US to minimize the use of free speech, which in time, will mean they can just get rid of it all together.

>How do I make it through a semester of this without being labeled a nazi?
The trick to rhethoric when you're outnumbered is to never paint yourself into a corner by labeling something as your own opinion. You want to maintain a kind of formlessness that makes you a difficult target and stay on the offensive. You can get away with a lot if you package it the right way, hell you might even drop some redpills deep behind enemy lines.

>>139667322
Of course not. In the US there isn't the dual system of apprenticeship and university like in Germany, so I can imagine it's a lot worse.

>>139660831
Youre an american, tell them to fuck off with a smile on your face

>>139667367
Original Frankfurt School

The most Jewish invention after the coin.

>>139667367
Did you have the balls to ask whether the jews are the majority by that logic?

Smash em with facts.

>>139661493
To a marxist, people have a choice whether or not they believe in reality, hence realists can be morally condemned for their conclusions

>>139660831
I am so glad I'm not in college these days, it was bad enough 2009-2013. I can't imagine the madness today.

>>139660831
I had this happen in the early 2000s, I asked my class to come with me to the ghetto I was a patrolman in. No takers, no more bullshit arguments, nothing they could say was more powerful than the fact they knew deep down inside that they would be raped and killed before dawn.

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I feel you
This is from my anthropology class

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>>139660831
>Then the discussion turns to "is it even possible to change someone's mind through argument," and, "what's the point?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGph7QHzmo8

Get ready, /pol/, because it's only going to get worse.

>>139661493
That's the problem. Proper arguments and evidence and citation mean nothing to these people. Their opinions and conclusions are set in stone. It's absolutely disgusting and we've reached the point of civil war a long time ago. It's just that our lives are all so comfortable nobody wants to start it.

>>139667512
>things have gotten a lot worse in a short period

it's this. I went to a perfectly functioning college 5 years ago and i went in there to see someone a couple months back and simply did not recognize the place. Everywhere you would have seen a career fair or tech-related poster was occupied with social justice bullshit and nonsense
no arts, no humanities, nothing of the sort is even taught there and it's still a hive of "omgz those nasty white mens"

>>139667498
Yep. They control language to make you lose the debate. If we ever see black people in power they will redefine racism to mean "Discrimination against a group that has been historically discriminated against"

>>139667661
Trust me friend I do not think like that.

>>139667903
Sorry,I didn't do it. I don't think I was even thinking of any counter arguments at that time, just how absurd it all was

>>139667717
Just don't take any classes about race/gender or "Continental" (marxist) philosophers like Sarte or Derrida and you'll be fine. Most philosophers are logic bros.

>>139660831
>How do I make it through a semester of this without being labeled a nazi?
It's too late, you already are one, I am sure many there already labeled you like that in their fucked up minds, for shiting on their little lefty parade like that, just embrace it.

>>139667603
You're right, I thought of John Philippe Rushton.

mUh CuLtuRAl MaRxiSM

>>139661008
>Slav

kys op sick and tired of dumbass white boys who have so much to say online but freeze up like a little antisocial bitch irl

>>139668286
>Derrida
It blew my mind when I found out he was a jew

>>139668111
Most of the humanities have been infiltrated by marxist, so stay clear. Philosophy recognized this and there is a huge split between what as seen as Analytical philosophy and Continental philosophy. Luckily Continental philosophy is rarely taken serious in America

>>139667721
Don't you have Worker Unions?

>>139667903
That's antisemitic, goy!

>>139668207
I dropped out 3 years ago and was planning on going back to finish my degree, but now I see the absolute state of academia and I think fuck it, a degree is barely worth the paper it's printed on anymore.

The commie scum uni societies have always been a thing since the 60s and 70s, but I never thought they'd co-opt every aspect of college.

So much has happened in such a short space of time.

>>139660831
Make a game out of it. I enjoy hiding in plain sight. You just have insecurities and misanthropy boiling up inside you.

You know the truth and have no reason to try to act like the Monolith and pull these wretched monkeys from their Caves. Hell, I have a few communist liberal friends and I indulge a rare discussion of the merit of my viewpoint. But it's a bitter pill for them and they would rather imagine what ifs and why nots

>>139660831
>bite my tongue

You already lost you little pussy. Just speak up and say your mind. As long as you aren't a little autist virgin, people will respect your opinions.

>>139668286
Sartre isn't really Marxist.

>>139668663
Bear in mind I live in a small English town and it always takes us a couple years to catch up with 'trends'. I never saw this shit while I was there, it came out of nowhere.

>>139668663
If I wasn't already so far in I'd just trade school it. Might still end up doing that regardless.
None of my peers who've graduated have done fuck all with their lives, majority of them are still living with mom. Meanwhile the guys who went to work trades have money, their own places, family's and so on.

>>139660831
tfw your college literally has a (((philosophy))) class called "Marxism"

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>>139660831
>college
>ever
only option now is to drop out and tell everyone you know to never go to college before killing yourself at the ripe old age of ~24
sorry op

>>139660831
just say all those stats, and when they claim you're a racist, say they are antisemitic because you're a jew and they are holocausting you ... americans pretty much are jews anyway...

>>139668755
>As long as you aren't a little autist virgin

what gave you the impression I wasnt? I'm just visiting from /r9k/

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>>139668111
Here's more
How does this have to do with anthro lmao

pussy op sometimes i day dream about going back to school just to put myself in situations like that and drop all the redpills

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>>139660831
Honestly if you ask me, the only people who loose arguements are the ones stupid enough to care about them.
I used to try and discuss shit. I argued and kept an open mind to them. But it was no fucking use.
Its just.... honestly theres no fucking hope anymore. I hate this god dammed peice of shit world.

>>139660831
The guy who ironically mentioned IQ and crime statistics MIGHT be on your side. That's how I would have played it off.

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>>139660831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1lEPQYQk8s

HERE YOU GO MY NEGRO

Anyone worth their space in a philosophy class will know who Sam Harris is. If they are politically left at all they will probably already respect and/or agree with him. Watch this and point it out to the class that a dispassionate look at the data will conclude that genetic IQ differences between races exist. Point out that Sam Harris is more intellectually honest AND more intelligent than every person in the room.

>>139668557
Unions are rare nowadays, at least, in the US. Most of the time, only old hats get Union work. Also, many Universities that had teach league unions were either dissemble long ago, or are still a thing, but only hire you on as a temp, meaning that they do not have to offer you Union benefits, even if you work for them for years.

Also, in the northern US, many of the best unions are running into problems, and are breaking up by next year.

>>139669134
Maybe. But he was so stereotypically reddit in voice and appearance that I think not.

>>139668919
Apprenticeships or STEM are definitely the way to go. If you're that far in I'd say just grit your teeth and finish your degree, if nothing else at least it looks good on paper.

>>139669202
>Argument of Authority

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>race is re-

>>139660831
You just got braincucked

>>139669134
>hon hon hon hee
>li-like that bell curve book!
>it's so wrong it could only be believed ironically, or by racist idiots!
>I've never read it though lol
>please give karma for my funny virtue signalling

>>139660831
What the fuck are you coming to /pol/ for? This isn't a hugbox for pathetic women like you, you weak faggot. Learn how to argue and stop coming here looking for sympathy. This isn't reddit and you're a gigantic pussy.

>>139669262
Interesting. You nearly can't get fired in Germany, you probably won't go teaching any longer, but you still get your salary.

>>139660831
Weird. My philosophy course was based, you had to complete a critical thinking course in the first year which trains you how to think logically, spot fallacies etc. There were no SJWs or any indoctrination in the course.That was about 10 years ago though so it might be a shithole now.

>>139668131
>teaching rhetoric before logic and grammar
good job.

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>>139669280
That is the secret OP

This is what speakers in repressive regimes have done for ages: complain like hell about the ruling party, except blame it on the enemies of the rulers.

Oh yes, you get to trash all the lgbt, blm, commie bullshit and they will applaud you for it. Just ctrl-R in your head the lefty groups and replace it with """white supremacy""" when you talk. It'll feel great and you'll get a goddamned A

>>139669869
Which University?

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>>139660831
You have two choices: Switch your major to stem field, and get the fuck out of there, or keep biting your lip, write papers about the joys of communism and shit to get good grades, and then move on with your life. I would choose option 1, as there are plenty of philosophy majors working at McDonalds.

>>139669869
depends on the professor.
I've had courses before like that which were based. Which is why I figured this would be a good take. But day one she starts in with "reeee trump, reeeee women, reeeeee nazis"

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>>139669002
>muh fictional marxist utopia can be real, too!

>>139664462
>cite studies in an argument during thought experiment
>don't document

Boieeeee

>"Are there some arguments that aren't even worth having because they're so morally abhorrent?"
Only a weak faggot would be that afraid or arrogant to have a debate with someone that has views you find morally abhorrent. You don't have to agree with everything you hear but you should at the very least listen. How else is it possible to improve yourself if you already think you know everything?

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>>139669470
That's what shitty Leftists who are intellectually dishonest will respond to.
OP could sit in class and articulate his arguments all day but he wouldn't change any minds. The people he spoke of are beyond reason. The worst part is they think the same of us. It's really fucked up, because they believe they are redpilled but actually aren't.

In The Matrix, Cypher was legitimately redpilled but chose to live in the false reality. He was weak-willed, but his decision was at least partially honest.
Leftists, however, are utterly deluded. In a sense they've been given the red pill because the information is available. It's right in front of them. They saw the real world with their real eyes. They simply refused to believe it and went back to sleep, like taking the blue pill as a suppository.

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>>139661715
You must go to a shit uni or have picked a shit major, pretty much the only gen ed I had to endure was languages and a course on business. The rest was either related to my field directly or indirectly(math/physics) and electives. Since you're a britcuck you're probably paying for your brainwashing sessions too!

>>139667300
The man's name? Albert Einstein

>>139670588
To not* have a debate with. Big difference.

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>>139670093
>>139669202
Watch it spergbro, and arm yourself.

To go even further beyond, watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzFOI0QpIg

>>139662837
They were made requirements in order to give a well rounded education, but they've pretty much descended to the level of sjw brainwashing at this point

>>139660831
>>Be in philosophy class
>>inb4 meme degree
>>professor unironically asks how a white supremacist is supposed to argue in favor of their side
>>On the inside I'm screaming IQ, crime stats, the entire continent of Africa, history, welfare stats, education stats, Haiti, single parent stats, etc...
>>someone mentions all of these "ironically" and implies they're taken to absurdity or for some reason unreliable.
>>"Like that bell curve book"
>>reeeeeeing internally but know if I reveal my power level in such an environment I'll at the least be expelled if not thrown from the roof outright.
>>The rhetorical question smugness eventually dies down and the conclusion is reached that since white supremacists have reached their conclusions not based on evidence or fact there is no use in arguing with them.
>>"not based on evidence"
>>At this point I no longer have a tongue, chewed it all to pieces
>>Then the discussion turns to "is it even possible to change someone's mind through argument," and, "what's the point?"
>>"Are there some arguments that aren't even worth having because they're so morally abhorrent?"
>>Class full of trump hating feminists has the audacity to use the murder of an innocent person as an example of an unarguable point
>>I crack my teeth intwine clenching so hard to prevent screaming out "abortion"
>>My brain is banging itself against the inside of my skull in hopes of losing consciousness
>Jordan Peterson was more right than I thought possible about the state of humanities education.
>What do? How do I make it through a semester of this without being labeled a nazi?
you sound autistic as fuck. lol. kill yourself retard

>>139660831
Already been through this, just graduated a few months ago.

Just sit there and take it until you graduate. I tried to fight back a few times and it did nothing except burn bridges and bring negative attention to myself. I even had a grade fall from an A to a C+ because I argued with the teacher about the moral failings of liberalism and arguing that Trump is fine.

>>139660831
> Read it all
> Suffered very much
I'm with you man.

>>139660831
Use Foucault. Deconstruct the notion of ethics and use self-interest as a categorical imperative as a launching board for a philosophy of collective selfishness.

>>139670607
Absolutely true, but you still can't convince anyone by saying xyz agrees with me.

>>139665821 thats typically how it works. Socialists become either nazis or commies, and theres no turning back from there.

>>139670993
>he quotes the whole post

>>139662261
The first two years of a four year burger degree has nothing to do with your field. It's a refresher course of high school where you go over math and science and literature all over again. In most colleges some level of Social Justice "white people stole everything from the KANGZ" bullshit is MANDATORY, even in hard sciences.

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>>139660831
you should of brought an image (since their to stupid for pointless words) of this

according to them selling their dead fetus as food is ok because her body her rules, if moral compass doesn't exist then theres no way it wouldn't eventually get to this state.

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>>139660831
To have a hope of convincing hostile people you have to pose as an intellectual, philosophy critic and begin by asking how they would expect any white nationalist to answer a hostile or trap question, because if we/(((you))) can't get them to answer... How can we defeat them? Never present crime, race, or demographic statistics because they will not listen and will consider them fake.

Then echo the narrative that Michael Moore, the fat communist documentary spewing fuckwad, painted about Trump supporters and how they are not racist, not sexist, not xenophobic. But then highlight how divisive politics are today and how any dissent is muh Nazi or muh white supremacists.

You won't convince the harliners, but the hardliners will embarrass themselves and redpill the rest...

>>139670993
>you sound autistic as fuck. lol. kill yourself retard

Ladies and Gentlemen, behold! An antifascist intellectual makes his superior and moral argument.

>>139668431

FFS the slavs will save the white race
You should start acknowledging it.

>>139671320
Wow real convincing argument there bong

>>139669470
>The opinions of experts in a field should not be considered

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>>139660831
I got my degree in history, you philosophy majors are all cigarette puffing poofs. While we're all horrible alcoholics. The difference is I came out swinging in my papers with evidence of what I was trying to prove from historical documents. Make the arguments, get into debates with your professors. (It got me interviewed by the local paper.) They can't expel you for wrong think, and general every professor I went toe to toe with still gave me a good grade for doing the work.

>>139660831
Suffer through the dogma and mask your power level. When you get the chance, concisely redpill them all with one dogma-destroying hitpiece. I mean, you ideaologically annihilate them with one small book's worth of statistics and propositions. Don't give them an inch. I want you to take the embers of western philosophy and ignite a fire.

>>139661493
This guy gets it. But if you believe it's too late then do yourself a favor. Go to your gun shop. Buy a gun. And become the ultimate hero goy.

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>>139660831
Elaborate an irrefutable red-pilling syllogism and write it down with a permanent pen on one of your classrooms while nobody watches, idk, just stirr their shit I guess.

>>139660831
Bummer. Open your own college.

>>139671071
You would literally think that professors love a devil's advocate just to argue for the sake of arguing.

Egalitarianism is a kool-aid tier cult.

>>139671396
debate it.

>>139670667
>calls someones uni shit
>cant tell the difference between the US flag vs the UK flag

>>139660831
((((they)))) are just trying to indoctrinate you so you won't mouth off & there will be a chance you won't be burned alive when whites become the minority in 30 years

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>>139660831

WHAT HAS THIS TO DO WITH PHILOSOPHY?

>>139671616
Meant to reply to OP, obviously. Cut me some slack, it's 4AM here.

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>>139671521
Write a bluepilled message around it. The words in permanent marker are redpilled. So they erase a pleasant message to find a dark truth.

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>>139660831

>>139671452
You just talked about the man behind the argument, not about the argument itself.

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>>139671903
You can't announce reports.

>>139662076
This.
Even OP is a faggot.

>>139671521
>tfw i saw this girl for afirst time earlier today
is this real

>>139660831
>someone mentions all of these "ironically" and implies they're taken to absurdity or for some reason unreliable
Literally 1984. Someone could be ironically mocking that 2+2=4, working out the problem with blocks, concluding that 2+2 = 4, then laughing and saying it never could.

You should take the bare minimum non stem classes to get your degree and it should be a stem degree

>>139667597
not an argument

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>>139671510
Honestly an intellectual argument for white nationalism is just self-interest applied to a constructed group identity à la LGBTFAGGOTRYX2*&AIDS. There is no one true definition of a queer, and yet they identify as such and others perceive them to be so. Ergo, they rationally pursue their group's self-interest by promoting societal acceptance of faggotry.

Whites exist as a constructed group and are identified as such by themselves and non-whites. Pursuing a racial separatism and a national socialistic society is in our group's self-interest. Ergo, GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW

OP, you have two options, stay there and suffer, or leave. I had the same fears you have of university. So I found a school that truly promoted the American way.
I just started school at a wonderful safe haven from the horrors of social justice called Grove City College.
Truly the last bastion of conservative schooling.
If you're able to fake being religious for 4 years you're good, its amazing here. The girls are cute, the professors intelligent and mostly male. Even the females are based! Yeah church is a once a week requirement but I can handle that. We're an open community, transfer if you wish, I swear it's like stepping into a conservative paradise

>>139664994
the one on the right does look more disgusting. Greasy bacon and too much processed cheese.

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>>139672179
SOON.

>>139667512
I went to BU, graduated in 2010, and in one humanities class I got a significant number of Jews to agree that for the most part everyday Germans embraced Nazism as a reaction to Communism. Professor ( a Mexican intellectual) disagreed but thought my point did have some merit.

I would probably be expelled today for that stunt.

>>139671148
I believe it stands a good chance of convincing some of them, though you may have different experiences. It at least puts them in a very uncomfortable position.
If they are completely determined not to accept the arguments then they will have to write Sam Harris off. It means they would have to place more trust in their own "analysis" than his. Some feats of mental gymnastics are harder than others, and it's possible trying such a move would be prove too much, as adept as they are.

>>139660831
>doing bachelors in software engineering
>learn alot of shit
>hang with multi cultural IT bros, drink and smoke after class sometimes
>can talk about whatever we want because theres no butch feminists rubbing her armpits in our faces

shoulda taken a real class bruh

>>139662343
This. Tried to use the GI bill to get a few masters degrees the past few years. Literally had to drop out because I was expressing my powerlevel (very passively) and even when I had the superior argument (in a masters program of political science international affairs) literally nobody would openly agree with me. It's so sad. They were all Bernie-bros. I cried and left college.

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>>139672194
>Grove City College
Your college Has very bad reviews for diversity, and not a party school. An influx of Liberals would fix both issues.

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>tfw 1 more year of uni
I'm almost there bros. I don't know if I can hide my power level anymore.

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>>139671898
That's even better.

>>139672138
Very, very real mein freund.

>>139664261
Then why do you even get to go to college?

>>139673081
she should really stop posing from that angle, looks like a fucking mares ass not a chicks ass.

>>139672593
>It means they would have to place more trust in their own "analysis" than his.
That's what they do daily.

>>139672762
Yeah. I was trying to get into a Masters program by taking part time grad courses in Geographic Information Sciences to couple with my Archaeology degree from BU ( I washed out of grad school first time for Assyriology because I was in the UK at SOAS and my parents flew me home to the US during breaks and fucked up my chances).

However the GIS professor was a classic cuck. The shitty beard, Nebraska-background and constantly spewing bullshit about how people of color were victims of racist geography. My grandfather has been dying and I used that as an excuse to my parents ( still living at home and almost 30) for just walking away from the program because I was just wanting to do spatial distribution for archaeological settlements and past environments and literally every project I tried was shot down because it didn't touch on diversity or racism.

>>139660831
What an anticlimactic greentext.

>>139663899
Ya its a shit system if your too stupid to go to a real school and should be working at McDonalds instead.

>>139672959
I couldn't give two shits about diversity. College is a choice, not a reward. Nothing is stopping a black person from coming here, and BTW there are more than you'd think. I came to play lacrosse here and get a good degree. High school lacrosse where came from awarded me far more than my fair share of pussy, liquor, parties, and fun. So the "party scene" part doesn't bother me. I can live without it for 4 years. Plus Slippery Rock Uni. isn't too far if I feel the need to get cheap ass/beer

>>139660831
Should have went into physics or engineering where you can meet other autists who would respect and analyze your data or at least your presented argument and then come to your conclusion you have. You intentionally went into a toxic pointless field full of trash.

>>139673442
That's the point of what he's saying fucktard. Leftists never have their views challenged in the rainbow echo chambers that are the humanities. I was a leftist at one point and I still think a lot of leftist intellectuals (especially Foucault) have gotten most things right and yet these people can't read anything by Nietzsche or Heidegger without sperging out about problematic racism.

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>>139660831

Mate... get the fuck out of Philosophy now. You're going to have an utterly miserable existence if you continue down this path. The faggotry you're seeing now is just the tip of the iceburg. Wait until you're dealing with professional SJWer with meme degrees. It's a living hell.

>>139673763
>>139673927
TBF to anon, the right neglecting the humanities is why Marxists have infiltrated them so heavily.

White supremacist ideology is based on a lie.

Speak your truth forward, cuck

>>139668286
>Continental (marxist)
>implying Nietzsche was a marxist/proto-marxist
Can't think of anyone who would have hated Marx and Engels more than Nietzsche.

>Philosophy class
>Do not argue with each other because you will be kicked out and blacklisted
wew what a world

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>>139674261
What lie is that you faeces-eating faggot?

>>139667512
I went to a reputable business school, and I had to take a "diversity competency" course rife with this sort of rhetoric and brainwashing. OP may be exaggerating or larping, but it really isn't out of the question. I couldn't imagine being a humanities major.

>>139663711
Hmm, a drop in sperm count does not denote a lack of fitness. You can only determine fitness, honestly, after a long period of time. So even though minorities may be outbreeding because they can't put much effort into offspring they may hit a critical mass due to whites disappearing or something and go extinct right after. Blacks do not do well in cold climates so they would, without whites, disappear again and more whites would then evolve to fill those niches.

I think you don't particularly understand much other than how to shill..

If you really want to actually talk about it you can, currently graduate student in genetics and big data analytics. Add me on discord SixRealmsOfPain#0037

>>139670993
did you just quote the whole post?

>>139660831
serves you right for studying philosophy you fucking retard, what did you expect? you are not in Ukraine. I had a teacher laugh her ass at me along with the class when I told her and explained the earth was flat

>>139663131
We as in the west have created an unnaturally high population growth in Africa with the millions and billions in foreign aid. Africa will always have famine, because we keep feeding them, and cutting them of when they are fed. Africans cannot sustain their current population, and certainly cannot sustain a quadrupling of their population in the next century.

The thing other cultures got going for them, are birthrates. That's it.

>>139667300
Girls tried this on me on two occasions in different philosophy seminars

Was surprised they didn't pick up on me being flag related

>>139661493
So how come you aren't in jail, bong? I presume you did this, since you have the moral authority to tell someone else to.

>"is it even possible to change someone's mind through argument," and, "what's the point?"
What kind of shit college do you go to where a philosophy professor would say this?

>>139660831
>philosophy
Here's what redpilled me on philosophy as an academic subject in and of itself. Take a look at your lecturers, how many of them are "philosophers" and how many are primarily historians, physicists, literati and so on? In every department I ever bothered to look at the answer is most if not all.

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>>139661493
This
>psychology of human relations, required class for my degree
>professor wants us to write an essay on racial relations and ways diversity has a positive effect on society
>15 pages, not that bad
>write a 50 page essay on why diversity as a whole is nothing but a massive drain on society, why it hurts everyone involved even minorities who benefit from the society, why races do poorly when mixed with each other down to evolutionary racism and genetic intolerance between races, such as bone marrow transplants and certain organ transplants
>argue in favor of nationalism, stating that it is not an argument of which race is superior but the fact of the matter is that all races benefit from separate nationalism, that Africa is doing poorly in part due to diversity in the country, cite Rhodesia as peaceful cooperation between races to instill a nationalistic society where both races benefited while being segregated yet still working in cooperation to remove lesser members of society
>read full essay in front of the class
>get full marks and SJW fat women don't argue because I used nothing but facts and cited historical precedent for my essay

They were still angry, but because I wasn't a parroting moron who operates on "muh feels" they could not put me in the wrong no matter what. They knew if they used emotion as an argument it would only make them look stupid even to themselves.

I'm now a state trooper having graduated both police academy and college with perfect everything.

>>139661270
>having to LARP as a normal person
Fuck, this is true.

>>139675099
Let this be a lesson to all you anons who feel the need to suppress your powerlevel in university

>>139663579
This. Another way of doing it would be to phrase it like "is there a way to understanding why people would think these things?" Or "maybe we should look at what they cite as facts and see why they are so convincing to these people?"

>>139666402
Murder isn't intrinsically wrong you fucking man-child cuck.

>>139665493
I know you've heard that this is factually wrong. Why do you say wrong things?

Are you retarded, Nederlander nigger? I think you might be.

>>139660831
>Be me
>First day of Medieval Europe and the Mediterranean World
>"Hi, I'm professor woman. My preferred pronouns are she/her"
>Professor woman literally wrote the book on medieval prostitution
(More than Sex? Prostitutes as Knowledge Brokers in the Medieval Mediterranean.)
>Spends the rest of the class explaining how medieval europe was diverse, because of this one painting of one black saint
>This is important because, like with the Charlottesville white supremacist terror attack, we see white supremacists using medieval iconography such as runic text and the eagle standard
>Actively avoiding discussion of kings and knights
>Class is apparently focused on the role of muslims, women, and jews in the middle east

No joke, from course description: " this course also considers how women, Jews, Muslims and foreigners fit into a world ruled and defined for the most part by Christian men."

Fuck I just wanted to learn about the actual events of Medieval Europe

>>139674330
Both are on different levels. Marx is materialistic while Nietzsche is more philosophic, psychologic and spiritual.

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>>139660831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_eEuP139zM&list=PLRbcQXWEJAJoAXti-38NgHfh9GhaNihs_

Your emotional response is crazy. How do you get that worked up just because you've read info that an arbitrary slice of the population is more scummy. Poor white people are fucked too. And they have less working against them. Really, the simple fact that someone describes their "power" to mean "I get hyper worked up about black people because I haven't grown out of the middle school mindset of my first viewing of American history x." Fuck you. It's not about being right/wrong. It's about what you obsess over. Like say you work out a completely logical reason the age of consent should be 6. People aren't thinking, "wow, so unconventionally smart." They're thinking, "pedo." And they're right. Maybe take a psy class instead. Or even a stat class, you fucking tard.

>>139672959
what school would get an F for diversity?

probably the best school

>>139674330
I can; Stirner.

>>139675765
Wtf aside from the Crusades wasn't most of Europran Christian history us getting our asses kicked by Muslims up until the 15th century.

>>139674524
The lie is that the white race is the most noble race. Just a quick glance of history proves that incorrect. I say that as a white man myself. Not that I'm proud to be white; it's a murderous, degenerate race.

>>139660831
I've actually found that philosophy students are more open to considering logic that a lot of others would consider blasphemous so long as you actually present coherent logic. Not many people in general are able to, though, and this board is not an exception.
I probably would have interjected after the mention of the Bell Curve and innocuously asked
>Out of curiosity, have you read the book?
If you ask it in a non-threatening, inquisitive manner, you can coax the likely truthful answer. They probably haven't. Hell, I know that the vast majority of people here actually haven't either.
I'd then proceed say that most people in general, including in that classroom, tend to form opinions first, then collect "evidence" to support those opinions after the fact. I'd tell them to consider the fact that few people in that class have actually read the book or, for that matter, anything by white supremacists, yet supposedly consider their contrary views to be founded on evidence.
The problem is that this sort of logic escapes most people in general - as in it's obviously beyond their mental capacity. I've noticed that grad school is a lot better in this respect.

>>139660831
>My brain is banging itself against the inside of my skull in hopes of losing consciousness

This feel is too real

>>139674770
L.o.l.

>>139675886
You fucking idiot. Nothing you have said contributed to the conversation. LOL like poor white peoplesss fuck this stupid classbaiting.

I would deconstruct your argument but honestly I just hope Tyrone deconstructs your ass.

>>139671550
>People don't share my particular brand of thinking and will therefore resort to fetus cannibalism.


THE POST

>>139676043
what race is less murderous?
oh wait, that's right, none. asians are tied with whites for least murderous

>>139676017
No idea, and I probably won't learn much because professor wants to focus on the "middling people" aka uninteresting commoners whose lives we can only make crude guesses about.
I knew I was in for a trip when she mentioned how she teaches the class differently every year

>>139661042
And you faggots are the reason it happened.

>>139676043
Lol wtf?

>"I am for the whites because I am white; I have no other reason, and that one is perfectly good." Napoleon Bonaparte

>imagine being so clinically retarded you think abortion is murder
personally, no matter how hard I try, I can't imagine that. Then again I only have a phd in math, I don't know what it's like to have sub-0 IQ.

>>139675050
The first question is valid. Humans aren't just rational, so they base their view of the world not only on bare facts.

>>139676310
Ask her about Amalfi and the Amalfi slave trade.

Take the Ben Shapiro approach if you're going to stick it out with the class. Otherwise drop and get refund on class and take something based

>>139675099
How do you read 50 pages in 90 minutes?

>>139660831
Stop listening. I had to take philosophy for history teaching. I didn't pay one lick of care about what the professor said. Got a C. Go to class though. Some of their bullshit will seep in and it'll be useful on exams.

>>139660831
I'm not sure you should be there in the first place OP, but I would agree and amplify them super hard. Like take their positions to the extreme and straddle the line of sincerity and mockery if you can pull it off.

I dunno how you guys do it, my ability to argue when talking is absolute garbage because I take a while to think things over and make sure what I'm saying is right. Writing is fine, fuck screaming over a wall in a bathroom is fine but in class with someone controlling the discussion with a time limit on my head I just say the same thing over and over and hope that they get it. I once held an entire conversation where I just said Okay in different tones of voice and the girl asked me out.

>>139676379
PhD in math? How is poverty treating you? Man, all that IQ yet somehow performing worse than niggers singing shitty music.

>>139660831
>afraid of being labeled a nazi.
But is, in fact, a nazi.

>>139676319

I think you have it backwards

If feel bad for y'all. I graduated college in the 80s and there was none of this. I don't recall the topic of feminism ever coming up

>>139676106
Good post!

Also feels good to have read the important passages of Bell Curve, 80 % of this book is about the consequences of the findings (changing the US school system).

>>139676663
I took speech as well, it's not hard.

>>139661046
Unironically this.

Drop out. Get a shit job. Who gives a fuck. minimum wage if you need to. Better if you can
Live with your parents and work as many hours as you can and save as much as you can. Quit smoking, quit drinking, no drugs.

Save up enough to purchase 0.8-1 acre of land.

Look up perma culture gardening.

Grow 90% of your own food.

30 sqr feet of grain x 2 seasons = 60 square feet of grain. Enough to keep a single person alright for flour. Whole grain flour.

Grow vegetables and go to nurseries in late spring and pick up fruit bearing trees when they're on sale. Apple. Peach. Pear. They all grow well.
Pro tip: Liberty Apples are self-fertile so you don't need to cross pollinate or cleft graph

keep working part time. Buy a power generator. Generate electricity.

Bonus points if you have a well under your land.

Get internet.

Be 99% self-sufficient.

Fuck college.

>>139676310
What did you learn in History in school? Only how great the USA are? Legit question.

>>139661493
You really don't get it, do you? The truth isn't something you can "prove." You can hold up an orange to an anti-orangist and show them the round shape, the orange color, the palm sized volume, you can peel it, squeeze it, pull it a part and show the insides, let the taste it, show them photos of other oranges, and an anti-orangist will still insist that you are an idiot for even considering that oranges are real and classify your fruit as a different-but-equal sort of peach.

We are fighting not a simple lack of facts, but pure madness. Our task is not to show these people the truth but to convince them that the truth is more important than their anti-truth beliefs in a world where trying to do so makes you the target of a witchhunt.

It's just so.... CUTE that you seem to think facts change these people's minds.

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>>139676762
>I just said Okay in different tones of voice and the girl asked me out.

I can't related because i'm doing my degree in Electrical Engineering lol.

>>139677156
post the paper faggot

>>139660831
You should have taken your intro to philosophy course online at a community college

>>139676762
>discussion with a time limit on my head I just say the same thing over and over and hope that they get it.
Hello Donald!

Not even a bad strategy btw, good for politicians.

>>139660831
>TFW sophist master race
>I dislike Situations like op described
>l'll defend white nationalists for fun.
>I defend them from a leftist perspective against leftists.
>I defend from a conservative position against conservative
>If they depart from reality I go even farther.
>I always win and I never look like a cracked rightwing sperg
>never get emotional because I don't actually care

You are weak because your mind is locked to petty things like "truth" and "objective" reality. If you want to win arguments you should stop handicapping yourself.

Next time try defending hypothetical minority population from extinction. Treat them like an endangered species.

Phrase it like you are defending genetic diversity from a science perspective.

If they Disagree jump straight into asking if they support the genocide of minority groups in Africa?

>>139675081
I did philosophy. You're wrong. All of my lecturers were philosophy graduates.

Philosophy is a very academically rigorous subject. I mean it's like history really, if you had a philosophy degree they wouldn't just allow you to be a history lecturer, you'd need a history degree. Same with philosophy, you need a philosophy degree.

>>139677343
>all people act the same

>>139660831
What state do you live in OP?

Don't worry OP Marxists are trying to make grades a thing of the past anyway…
that way they can move on to full on indoctrination and not have to worry about a curriculum of any type.

>>139673242
Do you not enjoy horse pussy, anon?
>inb4 back to >>>/mlp/

Also I wrote a paper on why the German movie Metropolis was actually talking about the poisonous influence of Jews at the time. I cited Jung and other sources and I got an A even though he said my language was "inflammatory"

>>139678089
If anyone wants to see it let me know and how to upload it.

>>139676209
Poor white people are behind the entire opioid crisis. Dying faster than blacks ever did with crack. Entire generation of kids being raised by grandmothers. Paint dumb poor white people purple and obsess over how much you hate purple people ya know? Instead of getting your own shit together like a mature person.

>>139677213
I dropped out of society, lived off the grid with my wife of 25 years, now we have a small hobby farm, 2acres, fit, healthy, nice area, great community… couldnt be happier.
My waifu is a certified permaculture designer, I do custom carpentry and fine woodworking..

>>139678257
Do you have it as PDF?

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>>139660831
>"Are there some arguments that aren't even worth having because they're so morally abhorrent?"
>mfw this is in a philosophy course

>>139667512
No, OP isn't just autist, it's gotten worse.

>>139661493
The problem isn't that he wouldn't be able to prove, or at least sufficiently argue his position. The problem is that there is likley a very real threat that he could face physical violence from his classmates, or discipline/expulsion from the school with no hope of appealing the decision.

Don't get me wrong, I would probably openly mock these kids and call out all of their bullshit just like when I was in school, but doing so would probably be ill advised.

>>139663579
This is what I generally do when placed in an otherwise compromising situation. I ensure that my true views are never known and imply that I'm arguing for the sake of discussion and nothing more.