Hurricane Harvey is third '500-year' flood in Houston

>>139592834
Remember to archive
https://unvis.it/washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/08/29/houston-is-experiencing-its-third-500-year-flood-in-3-years-how-is-that-possible

>>139592834
The climate is always changing, retards.

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>>139592834
I edited this to hell but it's perfect for this thread

>>139592834
He is not denying Climate change ...
He is not giving money to a cause that has no evidence in changing anything.

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>(((science)))
>muh always showing just the last 100 years of data to scare the brainwashed zombies

global warming/climate change is an industry unto itself and they want worldwide "carbon taxes" on top of that. it is an insidious thing far beyond that even.

you won't understand wtf i'm talking about unless you look into these things for yourself. so, you can do that (takes effort)... or blindly continue to go along with their agenda. whatever.

did you know having ice cap is an anomaly? did you know that the earth has been ice cap free for ~90% of its existence? did you know by definition ice caps only exist during ice ages? did you know we are at the tail end of a CURRENT ice age now? did you know the caps extended as far down as missouri/kentucky just 20,000 years ago and have been receding ever since that peak? did you know the caps are going bye-bye even if every person on the planet disappeared 20,000 years ago?

THE OCEAN'S RELEASE *ALL ON ITS OWN* IS FAR LARGER AND MORE IMPORTANTLY *OUT ACCELERATING* MANS CONTRIBUTION

THE OCEAN IS RELEASING MORE DUE TO WARMER TEMPS (WARMER WATER = IT'S A FAR LESS EFFECTIVE C02 SINK)

IF HUMANS NEVER AROSE CO2 WOULD BE INCREASING AT ALMOST THE EXACT SAME RATE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW

THIS HAPPENS AT THE END OF EVERY ICE AGE

STOP BEING SO FUCKING GULLIBLE AND LAZY

LOOK INTO THINGS FOR YOURSELF AND STOP TAKING WHAT THE MSM, EPA.GOV AND NASA.GOV ETC. TELL YOU AT FACE VALUE, YOU LAZY SHITS. IT IS ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL.

ICE AGES AND PERMANENT ICE *ARE AN ANOMALY*

BY DEFINITION AN "ICE AGE" IS WHEN THE EARTH HAS PERMANENT ICE SHELVES

WE HAD ICE A MILE THINK IN CINCINNATI JUST 20,000 YEARS AGO

THE PLANET IS WARMING AND THE CAPS ARE METLING

THAT MEANS = MORE CO2, SEA RISE AND WEATHER PATTERN CHANGES

WE CAN'T STOP OR ALTER IT, WE WILL ADAPT JUST FINE

STOP BEING SCARED INTO TAX SCHEMES AND GLOBALIST POWER PLAYS YOU DUMBED DOWN ZOMBIES

The hurricane is clearly a consequence of the US not believing in water and wind gods. Anyone who denies the existence of water and wind gods should be sacrificed and is an idiot.

>>139592834
>implying the FUCK WHITEY wealth redistribution scam had anything whatsoever to do with controlling the weather

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/05/08/sorry-global-warmists-but-extreme-weather-events-are-becoming-less-extreme

>>139593357
This

>>139593276
Poland anon gets it. Washington Post has the dumbest editors.

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>>139593357
>science

Right we should go back to praising a kike on the stick and helping god's chosen

>>139593276
>He is not giving money to a cause that has no evidence in changing anything.

Bullshit there are various things government can do to stop man made climate change

>>139593357
The ice age ended 20,000 years ago.

>>139594320
Most of the time Earth has no ice caps. Right now we have two.

>>139594625
>Right now we have two
We have one.

>>139592834
Pick One:

2017
Living in Houston

>>139594320
>>139594927
please stop talking

>>139592834
everyone's jumping off a bridge
better jump too

REMINDER THAT SO-CALLED GLOBAL WARMING INS A HOAX AND AN INTERNATIONAL KIKE PLOT TO EXPROPRIATE FROM HUMAN (EURO) ACTIVITY

>>139594234
like what

>>139594951
I went to Austin a month ago for vacation. It was suck a shit hole. The air was dry, the temperature was too hot, there was nothing but bars and no parking spaces anywhere.

>>139594927
Bullshit faggot.

>>139594234
>stop man made climate change
But it's not man made.

>>139595030
>REMINDER THAT SO-CALLED GLOBAL WARMING INS A HOAX AND AN INTERNATIONAL KIKE PLOT TO EXPROPRIATE FROM HUMAN (EURO) ACTIVITY
Reminder that this sentence makes absolutely no sense and neither does the person who typed it.

>>139594234
Yes, but that government is the Chinese government. Oh, and the EU is counting deforestation to burn wood for power as "renewable" and carbon neutral. It's all bullshit. I'm sorry. A global carbon tax will change nothing other than US hegemony in some spheres.

>>139592834
Good. Your fake religion deserves to be mocked, and nobody gives a shit about it enough to skip starbucks, so why should we care?

>>139594175
That isn't even the BEGINNINGS of an argument you low-information loser.

>El Nino
>The idea that cold atmospheric air mixes with warm tropic moisture to create violent storms

If the earth is becoming warmer, how would that lead to an increase in tropical storms? You would expect the inverse.

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>>139593357
>THE OCEAN'S RELEASE *ALL ON ITS OWN* IS FAR LARGER AND MORE IMPORTANTLY *OUT ACCELERATING* MANS CONTRIBUTION
We must tax water vapor, oceans, volcanoes and decaying matter ASAP! This is the only answer!

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Katrina was worsened by man made warming
Harvey has been too
Welcome to the rest of our lives

>>139595151
fuck off kike
I'll order extra meat and consume extra fuel just for your (You)

>>139592834
How will Al Gore pay his jet payment ? Oh the humanity ! Man bear pig

>>139592834
what does it tell you when burgers are the only people smart enough to pick someone who wont bow to a chinese hoax?

>>139592868
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/08/29/houston-is-experiencing-its-third-500-year-flood-in-3-years-how-is-that-possible/

http://archive.is/BZaA7

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>coin term "Global Warming"
>earth stop warming
>rebrand it to "Climate Change"
>anything anywhere happens ever
>"SEE THIS IS PROOF OF CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!!"

One has to admire the Jew for his genius in subversion.

>>139593544
You need to archive that.

>>139592834
(((climate change))) gib taxes to save the niggers goy

>>139594320
The polar icecaps were at the largest point in the 16th century that they'd been in over 10,000 years, which is when we last came out of an ice age.

>>139594234
Oh look, spotted the retard.

>>139592834
How long have we been recording weather and its patterns ?

Trump caused the hurricane, but he is the weakest president ever

>>139594927

You really need to stop saying stupid shit.

I may dislike Trump but not once have I seen him deny "climate change". Besides, shit sounds scammy as fuck. Showing images of starving niggers and asking to donate is more convincing.

>>139595114
There's two different climate changes, man made and just just the planet farting, a lot of civilizations have died from the latter.

>>139593357
>Wow climate change is always happening so it's ok to pollute
The argument is whether humans are accelerating it you autist. Not hurr climate change is only humans.

>>139594320
>>139595558
When there is permanent ice, like we have now, we are still in an ice age you mongs. We are still technically not out of it.

How to fix climate change:
Turn off China

Iz Whi pipol didit

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>>139595446
nice bullshit

>>139595734
So you wanna just start living in wood houses with no heating and shit ? Everyone is always screaming stop the pollution when every single one of those retards would throw a fit if the electricity prices rise by 2 cents.

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>3 years
>water hasn't risen even a cm in this time
>average temps haven't changed to even a negligible level
>US hadn't had a greater than category 2 hurricane in 12 years
>this is all a response to man-made climate change

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>>139595734
No one is talking nor was the OP about pollution, we're talking about (((climate change))), you goal post moving shit for brains.

Do you even understand the difference? Probably not.

>>139595857
Its an extension of white guilt. Pay some guilt shekels and its all good goy. Stay scared

>>139595734
We need to have China and India and all the other coal-burning open pit mining countries put their development on hold, we can't risk having the whole world industrializing before we fully understand the consequences of our actions.

>>139595513
Thank you, you dirty homo.
Fuck this unvis faggot. Trying to pry shekels from us and help /pol/ get further data mined

>>139592834
What is el nino?
What is el nina?

KYS you fucking commie cunt

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>>139596055
Nah, China can pump CO2 and burn coal without scrubbers all they want. It's just the US and europe goyim that must pay shekels.
https://mic.com/articles/101902/here-s-what-china-s-air-pollution-looks-like-from-space

>>139593276
The aim of Paris Agreement was to lower temperatures by 1°C from the predicted ones. Are you ready to waste trillions of dollars on biggest virtue signaling scam yet?

>>139592834
Climate change is an excuse to trick westerners into accepting lower standards of living and extra taxes.

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>>139595784
>Turn off China
OY VEY

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>>139592834
But then again, Trump is the only world leader who thinks asbestos fears are a mob conspiracy.

>>139592834
The climate was changing on this planet far before mammals emerged and will continue changing long after they're extinct

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>>139596364
>Climate change is an excuse to trick westerners into accepting lower standards of living and extra taxes.
This.

It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us.

In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort.

The truth about immigration, by the numbers:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI

Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM

Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek

Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs

Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hWYgPDVX_8

also see

The facts about slavery in North America:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFHa4db3hA0
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A94smJ9QJ5g

Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNNtBmA3SQ

Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)
>https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412

The Holocaust:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxpIsep4160

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He's wrong and I don't care.

PS: Get fucked, Jews. Hope you put that IQ to work on some serious air conditioning for your Chinknigger Utopia.

You're going to need it.

Faggot, it's because of the over development and poor drainage planning. Houston is built on a fucking swamp. Kys.

t. Galveston anon

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>>139596527
>The climate was changing on this planet far before mammals emerged and will continue changing long after they're extinct
pic related
>>139596477
nice argument about climate change, you pussy bitch

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>>139592834
I'm a hard Trump supporter. I believe in man-made climate change. I'm glad Trump "doesn't."

Trump is like my lawyer. He knows what to say and when to say it to get the best deal on my behalf. He knows that addressing climate change as real is a quick way for someone to argue why they need MY money.

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>Build a city in what amounts to a small basin
>It floods badly when it rains a lot
>"This must be global warming's fault, it's time to impeach Gromph!"

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>>139596877
>I believe in man-made climate change.
Then you're a fucking dumb-ass mark. Good goy.

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<<<believe in the sky freakout fantasy>>>

ITT : Morons without any science education talking out of their asses about a subject they'll never even be able to understand with their nigger IQs

>>139593357
The truth
Good to see that not everybody retarded.

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OP confirmed Bozo.

Muh climate change
Muh computer models
Computer models
Models that can't predict reality
Climetards believe it

Remember, friends don't let friends become Climetards. Being a Climetard is a choice. A choice to believe in political fabrications instead of science

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>>139595443
>>139595443
>>139595443
>it's all about carbon taxes
>i.e. taxing fucking CO2
>everyone ignores what's staring them in the face

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>>139593544
>>139595847

lmao all of those graphs are using cherrypicked UAH or RSS data (ie the only 2 outliers in the entire data, both of which are outliers due to diurnal drift of the satellites fucking up the readings). Also Al Gore isn't a scientist, Greenland temperatures are not global and the graph stops in 1950 (present is 1950 for climate science), no increase in tornadoes or drought in the US doesn't disprove anything, in fact extreme weather events GLOBALLY have been increasing as a result of GLOBAL warming.

These are the standard denier arguments. Cherrypick data from UAH and RSS, cherrypick local temperatures or weather charts (Greenland ice core for example), show irrelevant data (such as CO2 warming less as it increases as though this matters when it starts at the relatively low 280ppm pre industrial or the fact that man made emissions are a small amount of total CO2, even though this amount throws off the equilibrium). Deniers have no arguments, they only have blog posts and cherrypicking

Here is some actual research

>Models are correct
Comparing Tropospheric Warming in Climate Models and Satellite Data, Santer et Al 2016
Robust comparison of climate models with observations using blended land air and ocean sea surface temperatures, Cowtan et al 2015

>Sea level is rising faster
Temperature-driven global sea-level variability in the Common Era, Kopp et al 2015

>problems are increasing globally
Increasing drought under global warming in observations and models, Dai 2013
Anthropogenic contribution to global occurrence of heavy-precipitation and high-temperature extremes, Knutti 2015
Global Increasing Trends in Annual Maximum Daily Precipitation, Westra et al 2012
Past constraints on the vulnerability of marine calcifiers to massive carbon dioxide release Ridgewell 2010
Reconstructed changes in Arctic sea ice over the past 1,450 years Kinnard et al, 2011
http://www.easac.eu/fileadmin/PDF_s/reports_statements/Easac_Report_Extreme_Weather_Events.pdf

Because its not climate change its been over due for 20 years and the fact that we had el nino this year it was likely to happen

I remember everyone denying that the Earth was round back then.

Yes, I'm the time traveler

>>139595734
>CO2 Is pollution
spotted the retard

>>139592834
ITs redundant, name one time in history or prehistory when climate wasnt changing

>>139597010
Uh-huh. Listen- mankind has been changing its environment, intentionally and unintentionally, for millennia. You really think it's not possible that a world-wide presence in the billions doesn't have the possibility to go so far as to influence climate patterns? I've been around the world, literally, and in as many ways mankind is still puny and small compared to the scale of the planet, I also understand runaway positive feedback scenarios and how sensitive any large complex system like the planet's climate can be.

It's foolish to believe that man-made climate change isn't real. The real issue is the extent of how much we should care- how "bad" is it, what should be done about it, if anything at all.

Climate change deniers are often stupid. But the root reason for denying climate change is solid- somebody wants their money, and no line of Hollywood Celebrities is going to get them to give it up, no matter how much they try to frighten plumber joe with "change."

Mathematically, scientifically, we're better off opening up economic opportunities for economic prosperity and to encourage technological development that may lead to better solutions than things like carbon tax, carbon recapture, mandates on emissions, and the shutdown of fossil fuels.

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>>139597397
>muh cherry picked
>this isn't cherry picked thought goys!
>EASAC aka Soros bux central
you've already been debunked 4 times above, fuck off

>>139592940
>The climate is always changing, retards.

this.

holy shit is it retarded

>>139594234
>people who can't file forms correctly, can recede the ocean

I never get people who treat the state as their god.

Daiky reminder, only mental retards believe in anthropologic climate change.

>>139597073
stare up at the sky and freak the fuck out about it
surrender to a small elite because of the shape of the sky

>>139597397
Why dont we learn how to stop Hurricanes with SCIENCE before trying to save the planet ?

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In antiquity, the Isthmus of Corinth was only 70 feet wide.

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>>139596317
>that fucking image of some asians being sick and showing respect to their fellow people.

It's fucking part of their culture holy shit, if the smog was so fucking bad why aren't the fucking kids wearing masks?!?

FUCKING FAKE NEWS ALERT.

https://thisjapaneselife.org/2012/10/10/being-sick-in-japan/

It's a fucking cultural phenomenon in asian countries

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>>139592834
It's glorious. Hail to the god emperor. Carbon credit merchants BTFO

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>>139597946
But I can pick ANY data set other than RSS and UAH and it agrees with the models. I can look at global data regarding weather events and see changes due to climate change, you have cherry picked local. You have also cherry picked Greenland temperatures and claimed they are global. Why do you not show a composite of all the datasets? Why do deniers only use those 2 datasets for everything? Could it be that those are the only ones showing the narrative you believe in? Why not use a greater variety of datasets? Why do you ignore that both UAH and RSS have been shown to be wrong due to diurnal drift?

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Also reminder that this situation was caused by it raining too much because the storm didn't move. It would have been nothing if it kept moving. Next someone will try to tell me that storms not moving isn't an anomaly caused by a perfect set of unlikely variables, but instead global warming makes storms sit in one place.

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>>139597923
> I also understand runaway positive feedback scenarios and how sensitive any large complex system like the planet's climate can be
>ignores all actual data
>but I've been around the world!
>better off opening up (((economic opportunities for economic prosperity)))
Nice "muh feels" argument, jew.

Anyway, what should we ban first? Trilobites?
Prehistoric fish? Dinosaurs? Early mammals? Woolly Mammoths? THESE SPIKES ARE SCARY TAKE MY MONEY AND TRANSFER MY NATION'S WEALTH TO NIGGERBANIA AND CHINKCHONG LAND P-P-P-PLEASE

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536 AD was a "year without a summer". Before this, during the last days of the western Roman empire, Ravenna was Italy's most important port.

>>139598348
>only 70 feet wide

Indeed, as the photograph shows you not measuring it by width, but by length.

>>139598884
>>139598481
Brainlet here, does this mean that sea-levels have dropped since Roman times? I thought the global warming was melting the ice caps causing sea-levels to rise.
Also
>implying that whole cities didn't move miles inland to avoid being sacked by Muslim raiders during Islam's dominance of the Med

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>>139592834
(((Climate Change))) mmm how about our government amplifying, and possibly creating Harvey the Hurricane for all the sensationalist headlines about the increased damage, death and despair caused by muh CO2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RpslS5KPhQ

"...This is a HAARP injection. They have excited the upper atmosphere with energy and this is so when Hurricane Harvey shows up tomorrow or Saturday morning it will intensify instantly and become very deadly. HAARP is what the government uses to make man made weather. They used it with Katrina and Sandy..... We are being set up for a catastrophic weather event by our own government. I am glad you caught this.... Going to share and your video is about to get tons of views...... I have caught these energy burst on radar many times. The deadly weather always happens 24-48 hours after the HAARP energy burst. These energy burst have happened before huge Tornado outbreaks and even flood events.... This is not a flash storm. It is energy being injected in the upper ionosphere which makes the upper ionosphere ready to pop when the storms roll through. In this case when Harvey rolls through..."

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>>139599133
fuck off well-poisoning kike

>>139594320
>American education

>>139598845
You're not even making sense. Shut the fuck up. Stop with your stupid little 80 IQ crusade. All that matters is that we've got the right guy in office to stop the kikes from stealing our money and giving us a chance at doing things that matter.

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>global warming


the ice caps are melting because we're entering a new ice age, the ice melts into the water, cooling the earth

It should be called global cooling, and the reason why you know who is bringing african tribespeople to the warm comfort of western civilization

because if they didn't do that, all dindus would freeze to death, reducing the population of the world, essentially making africa a habitable place.


We're essentially going towards paradise, but (((they))) are trying to stop it.

You know i'm right.

>>139592834
>id:JooS
oy vey

>>139593276
Climate is always changing. Why is ((( their ))) solution always more socialism?

>>139593357
Wait does that mean the world will get more warmer and we will see less snowfall? Fuck tropical heat, i want winter :((

So, when is the next ice age coming back? Imagine living in a hegh tech stronghold city, staring through your enforced windows into the blizzard...

Fuuuuuk

>>139592834

Stop buying and using Oil.

>>139592834
>one of the most pozzed hellholes in the U.S. is nearly wiped out by hurricane
wtf, I love global warming now.

>>139594320
> what's The Little Ice Age?

>>139595446
Katrina was worsened by democrats neglecting to maintain the levys

>>139599479
Ice age isn't going fucking anywhere until Panama disappears. Not happening. The reason why we're in an ice is because North and South America are conjoined.

>>139594320
>The ice age ended 20,000 years ago.

>there can be only one ice-age just like there can only be 1 bear

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>>139599371
He makes sense to me. You were talking a bunch of bullshit and ignoring basic data like previous (((climate change))) ups and downs before there were even land animals, much less man or modern man.

Seems like you might have the 80 IQ, bub?

>>139592834
This is a full explanation as to why he said 500 years. 500 years. 500 years. 500 years. 500 years:https://benjaminfulford.net/2017/08/

>>139599687
So it is going to get hotter? Parasites thrive better in heat, i guess that is the reason they are moving north towards yurop

Also, do insects get bigger in a warmer climate? This is my biggest fear, big ass centipedes and grasshoppers like fists.

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>>139599867
>So it is going to get hotter?
Yes. Then it will cool. Then it will warm. Then cool. Rinse, repeat.

The planet has been doing this for billions of years. It's only in recent times that jews came into being and discovered a way to fleece other humans.

>>139599473
Why is your kike brothers always like this Sir?

>>139592834
Yeah and Obama wouldn't say the words Islamic Terrorism.

>>139592834
>>139592868
>>139592940
>>139592967
>Elevation 80 ft (32 m)
>500 Year Floodplains
Whoever made Houston a 500 years floodplain obviously didn't understand shit about coastlines.

Like Nawlins, Houston is practically in a bowl. Near the coast. Where hurricanes regularly onslaught 2-3 months of the year.

>>139592940

That is, by definition, the opposite of the concept of climate.

Fucking Cletus, every time.

>>139594927
T-TWO ICECAPS!??!?

>>139592834
Maybe he believes that humanity contributes to climate change, but just gives ZERO fucks.
What now, libtards?

>>139603871
There is no ice cap in the north pole.

>>139592940
This

>>139605487
the north pole is nothing but ice cap, there's no land...

>>139594320
We're still in the ice age, just an "interglacial" period

>>139594234
Let's shut down all our businesses and give away all our money to third world countries and "climate change" (new Orwellian term for abstract environmental problem that keeps changing every ten years) will go away.

>>139592834
>3rd 500 year flood in 3 years

I don't know about climate change, but it sounds like they got the definition of 500 years flood wrong.

>>139592834
Harvey is haarp not climate change.

>>139605918

>Events that only happen previously every 500 years
>Happens in bunches now

>"Ya see here, them thurr book learnin boys be a might wrong, need to change that thurr time-frame cuz they be slippin'"

>Not: "Hmm, perhaps we should research what has caused this accelerated time-frame"

Listening to Cletus is going to be the end of the modern world.

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Remember when they usedc to tell us Climate doesn't = one weather event.


Honestly these fucking people think they can control a fucking Hurricane with their LARPing

lotta dumb goys in this thread. if a 500 year flood is happening at this rate and record high temps consecutive years in a row.. OBVIOUSLY WE ARE SPEEDING IT UP AT AN ASTRONOMICAL RATE U DUMB FUCKS

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>>139592834
>Climate change

>>139606551
You have to be a retard to believe that weather is on a clock that can be "sped up".

>>139592834
LOOK its rainy really bad randomly like it has been for centuries.CLIMATE CHANGE DRUMPF REEEEEEEE.

>>139606551

Fake and gay. Record temps my ass. We have had average summers for years now

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>mfw the AlGoreans can only scream and yell and can't produce a single fucking fact to support their argument that we should immolate our economy for the betterment of earth

>>139602036
>Whoever made Houston a 500 years floodplain
Wow, you really don't understand what you're talking about. Go read the article again, and follow the links that describe what a 500 year flood really is.

>>139595095
No, ice.

>>139592834
I don't recall Houston sinking to the bottom of the ocean in my lifetime and I'm a bit older than 3.

>>139606551
It goes even further beyond that. It has a lot to do with texas experiencing longer drought periods and sustained la nina weather patterns thanks to climate change
>but it's raining dumb ass, it's not dry anymore
That's why the floods are so bad. Extended dry spells reaching record levels means the water has less of a chance of being absorbed into the ground easier which means increased flooding. It seems people forget the crazy flooding texas has experienced the last 10 years. And it's only going to get worse. Wait till the next 4 year dry spell and another stronger el nino moving in to dump rain. Another flood disaster without a hurricane

>>139592834

Well then I guess it isn't a "500" year flood then is it?

Stupid fuck

>>139597334
fake

>>139592834
This is the face before he says "WRONG."

>>139592834
Typical suggestibe shill title. There's a large gap between denying climate change and denying it is man made (like Trump does).

>>139599133
>pop
you forgot the chemtrail impacts

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>>139592834

so when the big earthquake finally hits the west coast, is the news media going to blame trump for causing it?

>>139592834
>500 year flood
>gets completely BTFO
Kek. Ours can stand 10.000 year ones, and we're BELOW FUCKING SEA LEVEL. Get on our level plebs.

>>139592940
>>139597959
>>139605507
but now it's changing due to man-made emissions instead of natural causes, retards

When I was in school they predicted that climate change would cause more and more hurricanes. The number of hurricanes went down, so they had to adjust that to it causing less hurricanes, but slightly stronger ones! I'm sure when the data changes yet again, they'll really get it right next time.

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>>139592834
>three 500 year floods
Hmm. Maybe, I dunno, you should move your black ass out Houston then

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>grow up in the 90s and early 2000s
>get constantly told at every turn about muh global warming, muh ozone layer
>all that shit suddenly stops and the narrative switches over to climate change
>whether warming or cooling anything that could even slightly suggest either is immediately jumped on
It's infuriating, really. I haven't even heard shit about the ozone in years, after they made such a gigantic deal about it.

>>139609710
>muh ozone layer
huh, it's almost like scientists were 100% right and the international treaty aimed at fixing the ozone worked exactly as planned
>muh global warming
>suddenly stops
you're too retarded to even know what global warming or climate change are, just stop commenting on it
>I haven't even heard shit about the ozone in years, after they made such a gigantic deal about it.
because we fixed the problem. Get off /pol/ and join the real world.

>>139609666

Yep, and then abandon the city over, then the next, then the next. Let's just abandon every major city to climate change and roave in packs like fucking animals.

>>139609710
>I haven't even heard shit about the ozone in years, after they made such a gigantic deal about it.

This is the low intellect level of fucking Cletus in this thread. "I heard about an issue, a big stink was made, then the issue dissappeared (((naturally))))"


NO. You bumpkin. After the big stink was made there were government mandates and programs put in place to prevent the problem from spiraling out of control and then fix it. The same type of government regulations that Trump is slashing and gutting the EPA.

>>139609443
No, it isn't.

>>139602106
We live on a dynamic planet, in a dynamic universe, and the day atoms stop whizzing around, is the day things stop changing. You wanted change, you got it!

>>139610383

Yes, how nice of you to cite something we all know and try to sound smug but sound like a moron as a result.


Climate is by definition the long term recurring weather systems and status of an area. It is by definition the things about an area weather-wise that lack change. The term climate change is meant to signify that these things that have stayed the same are shifting in a drastic way.

So: Only a complete idiot would say that Climate Change is an oxymoron, that is like saying Shifting Demographic is an oxymoron.

>>139592834
"it's the third 500 year flood, GLOBAL WARMING"
the other option of course, is they aren't nearly as rare. Houston was founded in the 1800s. Columbus' voyage was at the end of the 1400s. where is all this 500 year data coming from? from guesses based on their best models, which apparently suck since they have 500 year storms happen 3 times in 3 years.

>>139610001
>huh, it's almost like scientists were 100% right and the international treaty aimed at fixing the ozone worked exactly as planned
There was always a hole in the ozone layer and always will be. That entire thing was a scam. And you are an idiot if you think otherwise. The hole is natural

>>139610721


>There is no empirical evidence of climate that stays embedded in the environment for more than a couple hundred years


Are you fucking serious? Do you think those models are based on pixie dust and moist-towelettes?

Funfact: There is still hard evidence in the environment of weather systems as old as some dinosaurs.

>>139610722
Just fuck off and buy some more water filters from Alex Jones, your frogs are turning gay!

https://chem.libretexts.org/Core/Physical_and_Theoretical_Chemistry/Kinetics/Case_Studies%3A_Kinetics/Depletion_of_the_Ozone_Layer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9ZT9CG7OWM

The idea that humans can, and do, change their environment, is beyond question. The real issue, is how much control does the human kind want to relinquish to a few globalists. Climate change is but a code word, for absolute control. The same charlatans that cry "the sky is falling" due to anthropologic activities, consumerism, demand that every third world nation be allowed to send its excess population to the West, so that these immigrants can consume products, build products, towards sustaining western economic growth, and simultaneously contribute to unsustainable life styles. kek. They want their cake, and they want to eat it too.

>>139611020
>Just fuck off and buy some more water filters from Alex Jones, your frogs are turning gay
I don't give a fuck about.your link because all it tells me what they think caused the hole? Can you tell me when the hole formed? Can you tell me when its going away? Cause its still there. So fuck off with your smugness

I cant believe there is even a debate. If scientists agree something will happen, it usually does.

>>139593482
Kek!

US has been relatively Hurricane free for about a decade. I remember when that was caused by climate change.
US has massive drought in California. I remember when that was caused by climate change.
Now we have hurricane Harvey, but that is also Climate change.
Oh and that state of California, having one of the wettest winters on record, that was also climate change.

wait so china thinks its real and yet they refuse to do their part?

>>139610639
>Climate Change is an oxymoron
No one said this asshat.

>>139611249
>because all it tells me what they think caused the hole
No it doesn't you lying sod, it literally shows the exact chemical equation for how CFCs interact with ozone. A reaction your 10th grade teacher can show you if you ever make it that high in school Cletus.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/WorldOfChange/ozone.php

>>139611330
Climate Scientologist!!!!!!!!

>>139611548
>No it doesn't you lying sod, it literally shows the exact chemical equation for how CFCs interact with ozone. A reaction your 10th grade teacher can show you if you ever make it that high in school Cletus.
Fuck off cunt. Answer my questions. When did it form and when is it going away? Fuckin answer dick.

>>139592834
Houstonian here
Fuck this article
Everyone in Houston knows we've only been hit by maybe three of these in the past 150 years.
No one ever even uses the term "once in 500 year flood"
How the fuck would we know? We weren't here in the 1500s. I'm not even sure the indians that were here when whites arrived in Houston were even there in 1500.

>>139592834
I feel safer with our president not saying the words "climate change" than president obama not saying the words "Islamic extremists".

Certified Floodplain Manager anon here,
100 yr flood = 1% chance occurrence/year
500 yr flood =.05% chance occurrence /year
Doesn't mean only one every 5 centuries.

>>139611647

>Link article with exact details of the shift and models of it shifting in the 80s when CFCs were in use with details on how its changing

>>"I SAID PRESENT EVIDENCE!!!"


Cool.

>>139611330
Not when those scientists get money from a certain party and have undeniable biased.

>>139611727
.5 not
.05

>>139592834
The debate is wether or not there is MAN MADE climate change taking place or not.

You dumb hell

>>139592834
>Hurricane Harvey is third '500-year' flood in Houston in 3 years
Most of the time, I think people should do what they want, work how they want, learn what they want, and accept the consequences of those decisions, for good or for ill.

But god damn do I wish you had to prove you had basic statistics knowledge to get any job communicating with the public. Like, finding someone in violation of this would result in mandatory minimum prison sentences.

I would even go so far as to support a constitutional amendment only granting the right to vote to people who can show they have a basic mastery of high-school level statistics.

Journalists are embarrassing for the entire species.

>>139611330
Yeah just like when they agreed that the Earth was flat, that heliocentrism was heretical, blah blah blah.

>>139611802

>The democratic party throws around more money in scientific study than the oil companies


If you believe that you are full on retarded.

>>139609443
Even if that was the case, there's literally nothing we can do at this point to make anything better. Climate will do as it does.

>>139611749
That doesnt answer the questions. You know why fucktard... cause you cant answer them. One day someone took a measurement and said.. oh there is a hole there. Actually its not really a hole. Just a thin layer. And of course you cant tell me why its still there and or when it will go away... cause you fuckin cant. Nobody knows and nobody knows because its fuckin natural.

>>139611429
>CC
in the 70's it was Green House Effect, that was blown out by researchers that discovered green houses were hot because they lacked air circulation, so then they went to global warming, that term hung around until it was noted that certain regions of the planet were actually becoming colder. What do?
>we need a term that will be un-BTFO-able, how about climate change, for as we know the climate is always changing, and evertime some storm happens, some drought, we can pin it on climate change, jajajaja.

>>139612062
^score^

>>139611952
>implying you'd need oil money type bribes for beta cuck scientists

Give them 20 grand and they'll be your puppy for decades until all of their predictions dont come try and the truth comes out.

>>139592834
doesnt matter, statistic anomaly

>>139612062
It would be nice if the religion of climate change would stop calling every weather pattern climate change caused by humans.

Is this caused by HAARP?

>>139612015
>You know why fucktard... cause you cant answer them


Literally everything you mentioned is answered in that article point for point.

>One day someone took a measurement and said.. oh there is a hole there.

May 1985 scientists with the British Antarctic Survey. They not only discovered the hole exists but also discovered that it was rapidly expanding and thinning due to the abundance of CFCs, something that Industry was pumping into the atmosphere in massive amounts before the agreement struck in Montreal in 1987

>And of course you cant tell me why its still there

Because large-scale chemical science isn't like you cooking meth in your trailer Cletus, these things take decades to happen. Which is why people are calling for changes in man-made climate change accelerators now before we irrevocably fuck ourselves over.

>or when it will go away... cause you fuckin cant

That article literally has models showing the progress since 1987 in reducing the thining as well as estimates for when the hole will return to pre-1980s level of being thin. A crisis averted with chemical proof of it isn't a crisis made-up, you fucking idiot.

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>>139594234
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>>139597586
Check out the declassified documents

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>>139613384
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom

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>>139595527
thank you ;)

>>139612740
>A crisis averted
ozone hole is nowhere near the scale of climate change alarmists

Studies from BP / Shell / Exxon show it's fake.
There really is no need to financially burden corporates with putting out less emission, at worst this can destroy whole economies.
Imagine a world in where these companies make less money to save the environment, that's just sad.

>>139613778


I did not at any point say they were the exact same scale, they are relevant inter-connected issues of which we have a proven model of how to avoid shooting ourselves in the feet but the Cletusii of the world want to grab the C4 instead of putting the gun down because last time we decided that stabbing our foot was a bad idea and that means the whole "foot shooting being bad" stuff was made up by the Illuminati.


Yeah, that analogy stretched to breaking point but it underlines how fucking absurd the train of thought of these mouth-breathers is.

>>139600993
I don't know :(
I think they are a bit loopy having had a victim identity for two millennia then losing what's left of it to secularization.

>>139612740
No you're the fuckin idiot. In 1985 they found ot becsuse they happened to take a measurement. Was it there prior to 85?

Its still there and nobody knows when it will not be. Some say 2020 some say 2040. Translation... they don't fuckin know. Stop playing games cunt.

the seas aren't rising... the ground is sinking. god damn...

>>139614549
source
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/For-years-the-Houston-area-has-been-losing-ground-7951625.php

>>139602106
Nope. Way to admit defeat by using muh Cletus though.

>>139614534
>Some say 2020 some say 2040. Translation... they don't fuckin know.


Oh, so not only can you not read you also don't understand how scientific models work. Cool.


>Hey guys, these fuckers in the meteorological office have Harvey tracking 5 different possible ways! TRANSLATION: THEY DON'T FUCKIN' KNOW SHIT ABOUT STORM SYSTEMS! Let's all forget this Hurricane Harvey bullshit hoax and go work on our tans in Houston!


This is the level of retardation you are championing, but because the values and numbers are too large for your tiny brain you think it's all some jew-magic.

>>139614812

climate
ˈklʌJmət/Submit
noun
the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.

Literally a second in a search engine or any dictionary; but you just keep on fucking that chicken Cletus.

>>139614912
You are a child and fail at ctrical thinking and can not answer simple logical questions. Discovering a buried treasure in my back yard doesn't tell me when it was put there. If fucking models cannot predict then they aren't models, they are a waste of fucking money.

>>139615235
>If fucking models cannot predict then they aren't models, they are a waste of fucking money.

>THE MODELS OF HARVEY CAN'T PREDICT ITS EXACT PATH SO LET'S TEAR DOWN ALL THE DOPPLER RADARS AND BUILD CHURCHES IN THEIR PLACE SO WE CAN PRAY THIS RAIN AWAY PROPER


I am just going to take your bullshit arguments to their logical end-point so it's clear as daylight how fucking stupid you are. Actually assembling arguments when you can't spend 5 minutes to read an article is a waste of my time. May as well just poke fun at how much of a mouth-breather you are.

>>139592834
Maybe dont live in a fucking flood bowl. Its like retards living below sea level and wondering why they get floods.

>>139615477
Fuck off fag.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/columns/2017/03/14/why-are-climate-change-models-flawed-because-climate-science-incomplete/hekwjPBTScRpFyXaXnrWhI/amp.html

>>139616088
>https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/columns/2017/03/14/why-are-climate-change-models-flawed-because-climate-science-incomplete/hekwjPBTScRpFyXaXnrWhI/amp.html

>Boston Globe Opinion Column
>Final word on science


You have your head so far up your ass you can see daylight. Oh and yes, variables introduce uncertainty in the models.

Especially variables like the leader of the free-world making policy on environmental protection regulations based on grudges with the previous POTUS and whatever Fox News tells him over his morning bowl of KFC instead of empirical evidence and scientific data.

>>139592834
Why would you assume you know something he doesn't? You are assuming he's stupid to arrive at the conclusion that he's stupid, all because it's what the media told you to think. It would be wise to heed the words that go against the popular narrative, as the popular narrative is always perpetuated by an agenda, and thus is more likely to be false.

>>139616420
>Why would you assume you know something he doesn't?


Because we have word and transcripts from his discussion on major issues that Trump's HIGH ENERGY SUPER SMART policy decision flowchart is literally:

Did the Obama Administration like it?
Yes: Fuck that, we are reversing it
No: Good, let's keep it that way

Policy on science shouldn't be decided in such a manner. Hell, no policy whatsoever should be decided in such a moronic way.

>>139595446
I like how you people don't remember any of the equally disastrous hurricanes from before the 21st century, or even the early ones before Katrina.

Selective memory at it's finest.

>>139616621
cum hoc ergo propter hoc, idiot -- the coincidence of two things doesn't imply cause. This is literally first-year shit, you stupid fucking monkey.

>>139594234
>muh flood
>muh drought
>muh sunny day
>muh cloudy day
(((Climate change))) is an unfalsifiable hypothesis where anything the sky does is evidence for it

>>139616355
Did you read the article fag and its references? Your fuckin models were wrong. Water vapor has not increased like they were supposed to. This is widely known. Fuckin clown

>>139616621
and yet you don't post them and leave the rest of us to just assume your word is true

>>139616789

Did you quote the wrong post or are you just misusing that accusation of a logical fallacy?

We have world leaders stating that this is his train of thought and transcripts of his conversations that the White House has not denied are correct showing clearly that his obsession with Obama is more important than good policy making.

>>139616789
>hurr cum in a lego helicopter look at me I can Google

>>139616621
You are a fucking hack. Liberals been fixing climate science to fit their narative for years

>>139616621
Seeing as how Obama and his administration were quite effective at creating financial black holes, that is probably a great way to start.

The less federal meddling in the private sector, the better.

>>139592834
Paris Accords = Gibs to UN bureaucrats for their entertainment slushfund and shipping pallets of currency to the palistinians for "climate change mitigation".

>>139616621
Here is one example of (((scewed data)))
https://science.house.gov/news/press-releases/former-noaa-scientist-confirms-colleagues-manipulated-climate-records

>>139616942


Yes, I read the actual white-paper put out by: blc.arizona.edu

It cites several reasons that could be contributing to the models' discrepancy. The writer cites exactly one, says its proven and throws up his hands and says the models are fundamentally flawed.


Question is: Did you read the shit you posted
fully or just take an opinion piece for Gospel?

>>139617300

I am fully aware of the NOAA manipulation case, it was a black eye to the climate science field that has set the whole sector back several years as it gives idiots like you ammo to throw the baby out with the bathwater, doesn't mean that there aren't other bodies that didn't fall to corruption that still show data confirming climate change. Or on a level even you can parse:

>That thurr weather man down in Austin said we may not get no big floodin' but we did, we need to go burn down that thurr weather tower and sacrifice all the weather boys to jesus to stop this rain!

>>139617957
CLIMATE SCIENTOLOGIST!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>139592940
Shhhhhhh dont educate the liberals facts make them throw fits and cry.
>pic related

>>139592834
It was a hurricane... shit happens

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>>139595200
>THIS
>THIS A MILLION TIMES.
Its all just a way to tax the masses and bring in millions of moslems