Someone redpill me on the black sun and neo-nazi occultism in

>>139506338
>1 post by this ID

>>139506537
Nice shitpost.

>>139506338
read up on Thule and Vril society. this site will do:
http://black.greyfalcon.us/

I thought that was the Third position symbol

What even is the third position

>>139506338
The black sun refers to Saturn=chronos=Satan. It's the same sun that the spoogey lefty elite pizzagaters worship. Lul, white man falls for the same trick again serving the same master hahahah

>>139506338
Its symbolic of a tight asshole each overlapping holding closed in comraderie, symbolically rejecting faggotry

Most of the occult things the Nazis are alleged to have been involved with are likely propaganda.Evidence established after the fact. No different from the lamp shades claim, only difference is no one took this topic seriously enough to delve into it.
You can accuse the Nazis of pretty much anything and people just take it as fact on face value.

>>139506790
A synthesis of the far right and far left. Basically communism for people who don't hate nationalism or culture.

Kolovrat. It's Slavic.

>The House of Kolowrat is a Czech noble family[1][2] that had a prominent role in the history and administration of their native Kingdom of Bohemia

>>139506338
This is a 2-dimensional representation likely inspired by spiral motion grams that are recurring motifs in Older civilizations.
Often occultists and conspiracy (((theorists))) define it as being a representation of Saturn, thus of Kronos and often associated with time.
Some associate it with the Sun of Hyborean age.

Upon closer inspection, without supplements from (((theorists))), solely based on the motif it is supposed to portray and its similarities with motifs of the civilizations of geographical centre -

It is a 2D protected Einstein-Rosen Bridge in anti-clockwise spiral, thus an incoming gate.

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>>139506338
>neo-nazi occultism
non existent, neo-nazism is jewed, just like /pol/
You are probably thinking nazi occultism,in which case you should look up esoteric hitlerism.
About the sun:
>The Black Sun, also known as the sonnenrad (sun wheel) in German, specifically comes from the floor of the north tower of Wewelsburg Castle, which was renovated by SS-leader Heinrich Himmler. The castle was a meeting place of only highest members of the SS, and Himmler considered it the axis mundi (center of the world) for their ideology.

>The specific meaning of the symbol, if it even had one to Himmler, is unknown.

>There aren't even records of a name associated with this symbol. There is no suggestion that he called it the Black Sun; that term was associated with it afterward.

>ORIGINS
>Himmler was highly interested in Germanic folklore and pagan belief and therefore appears to have adopted the symbol from similar historical shapes. While his Black Sun specifically has twelve arms, historical versions varied widely in the number of radiating spokes.

>The historical versions are considered by many to be sun wheels, similar to sun crosses, which is why calling this symbol a sun comes easily to most. (However, one should note that the Wewelsburg symbol is made of green stone, not black.) The center of the Wewelsburg symbol also originally had a gold center to it, which is a common solar symbol.

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>>139509731
>Sun symbols commonly represent triumph, life and goodness, and sun symbols with central points to them often represent unity and centrality as well.

>MEANING OF THE NUMBER TWELVE
The chamber containing the Black Sun is known as the Obergruppenfuhrersaal, the Generals' Hall. Besides the Black Sun having twelve arms, this chamber also has twelve columns and twelve niches along the wall. There were twelve branches of the SS, so that may have been the relevance.

>Other have advanced a comparison to the twelve knights of the round table. Himmler was a great fan of mythology and folklore, and two of the reading rooms within the castle were named Konig Artus (King Arthur) and Gral (Grail). As head of the SS, Himmler could potentially have also used such imagery in organizing the SS into twelve branches.

>The number twelve also has relevance within Norse mythology. There are twelve Aesir gods, for example. Important groups of twelve can be found in other cultures as well, such as the twelve Olympic gods in Greek mythology and the twelve disciples who followed Jesus.

>Beneath the Obergruppenfuhrersaal is another chamber that became known as the crypt or vault. It holds twelve seats against a wall surrounding a depression in the floor. The depression was meant to hold an eternal flame, a light emerging from darkness and rising up toward a swastika in the ceiling and then the Black Sun on the floor above.

>>139506537
I too am curious, shut the fuck up and drop some factoids bitch

>>139506338
you will not find the truth on google
after 11 years spent in occult research, esoteric hitlerism is what I currently think to be the closest to the truth
hinduism is your starting point, no joke
good luck

>>139509731
Thanks friend nice po-
>sees faggot flag
nevermind kys

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>>139506338
There are a few documentaries on the Thule and Vril societies on youtube. Just search them up.

here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh3qFbvbFqA&list=PLZMNsmcKrIVh9Yg4pPKEnpi6ZQBq-nr91

Helena Blavatsky was a major inspiration for their practices. She views lucifer as the savior of mankind.

>>139511999
Oh wow anon, you must be so smart.
Care to enlighten me about how are you going to save the world from the gorrilionaires by larping on a botnet mongolian sewing forum?
I also heard you were a political master which somehow thinks his system is better than all the others.

>>139511762
If you actually want to get into it, you shouldn't ground yourself to a specific religion, instead research as many as you can.
The motives and beliefs of some are rather similar when you strip off the local symbolism and mythology.
And be sure not to ground yourself into a specific way of thinking.
Every belief will eventually become an enslavement if you follow it without ever questioning anything.
I doubt you spend 11 years of searching, but good luck to you.

>>139514169
I did, thanks for your concern.

OP is gone. Abandon thread and and praise the black sun

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>>139506537
nice one

>>139506338
You ask the wrong questions, therefore you receive the wrong answers. You are asking others for what meaning there is in an esoteric symbol, when you should be asking yourself.

What is the Black Sun.
What does it rising mean.
What lies past the Outer Rim.

>>139514169
You are a fucking moron. All you did was copy-pasta the wiki article you spastic cunt. Fucking KYS

>>139515079
Impressive.
I don't mean to doubt you, but any tips, experiences or stuff you're willing to share, or what you are currently pursuing?
Would love to hear you out.

>>139506338
Rüdiger Sünners: "Schwarze Sonne: Entfesselung und Missbrauch der Mythen in Nationalsozialismus und rechter Esoterik"

at your local library

>>139516019
https://archive.org/details/SchwarzeSONNE

>>139515824
it's not the wiki article fa m, it's from another site.
Not like anyone asked your opinion anyway

>>139506906
Got any facts to back that up?

>>139506338
Very difficult t compress years of research into one post, but here are the basics:

- Symbols have the power to shape and direct the mind. This includes images and letters and words as well.
- Some symbols are deeply rooted in the human mind, much more than we realize. The sun is one of them. It symbolizes the energy that gives power to life. The sun feeds crops, which we eat, etc. All life is powered by sunlight.
- Any symbol made black is a reference to the conjunction of that symbol with the void. the void is the space that all things come from, sort of like the quantum field where nothing and something are mathematically identical. Matter arises from nonmaterial things. This is the void.
- The black sun is therefore a reference to the "power" or "sunlight" that comes from the void, which is the primordial creative force. It is only from the void that anything can be brought from nonexistence into existence, and joining the sun's symbolism with the void is a declaration that the bearer of the sign is in control of what will come into existence, or what the future will be.
-The black sun has 12 parts. This correlates to the zodiac, symbolizing the totality of possibility, the full year, all 12 months, the whole circle of procession around the globe.
- The double circle is a binding force. double circles mean "you are bound by this symbol." It's a sign of force over anyone who is not a beneficiary of the energies created by the symbol.
- the lines move in 90 degree lightning-bolt patterns. 90 degrees corresponds to the material world or the element of earth, and is also known to be an angle that is used for self-service purposes, sometimes called "mildly evil" compared to the "strong evil" of some other angles. I don't know why angles work this way yet.

Taken all together, this symbol may be taken to mean "we, the bearers of this symbol, assume the power to control the procession of history for our own benefit, and you have no say in the matter."

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>>139506790
>>139507828
It's Fascism, which can mean National Socialism (not Marxist socialism) or something along the lines of Hoppeian libertarianism. Best way to understand it is look up The Squire's Trial by Iron March.

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>>139514169
>larping on a botnet mongolian sewing forum?
The entire point of this website is to get (You)s, everything else is strategy for that purpose.
I'm amazed you haven't figured this out yet.

>>139506338
The Black Sun is our moral guidance, and it also grants us mystical god-like powers that we use to rule our adversaries. All who seek the truth follow the illuminating path of the Black Sun. It shines wisdom down brightly upon us.

>>139516368
Look up the treatise from o.a.n.a
They go pretty deep into angles, its manipulation of context. Seeing one thing from 45 is not the same as 70, etc..

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>>139506338
look carefully at this floor inside Wewelsburg Castle, the SS ideological headquarters

also note that this castle was meant to one day become the "middle point of the Earth", essentially a Nordic Vatican / Mecca, and the castle would become the center of a vastly larger circular structure of extreme ideological & spiritual significance

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>>139508282
No, it's Germanic too.

Alemannic brooches with Black Suns

>>139516578
I hear you, stopped frequenting the place last year i come here once or twice a week to flamebait and see the (you)'s rarely i respond to threads but this one caught my attention

>>139506906
This is bullshit. The Black Sun does not represent Saturn, who is a Roman god, not Germanic. Dumb ass.

>>139516837
>the treatise from o.a.n.a
can you provide a link?

I saw this post >>139444177 yesterday and it really made me think. I do believe the Vedic stuff is correct about cycles and I think the rise of technology is related to creating a "heaven on earth" where the occult elite rule over the world and they have probably been attempting this for thousands of years. The true occult secrets are all related to crowd control and mass manipulation imo, and the internet smart phones etc. is just a tool (((they))) are using to try and map the human "noosphere" like they did with the genetic code so they can prevent another massive revolution.

>>139517552
Are you stupid? Saturn is a literal archetype he is included in every pantheon of Gods just under a new name. Saturn Satan Sani Cronus, they are all the same because all religions are just allegories of the zodiac signs.

>>139516368
most cogent explanation I've seen thus far anywhere, thanks

>>139518073
There is no evidence correlating the Black Sun symbol with the planet Saturn fucking idiot, and most of Roman era Germanic mythology is now lost to us. The only Germanic mythology in full that survives to us is Norse mythology and even that, scholars believe, has heavy Christian influence since they're the ones who recorded it and wrote it down.

>>139518389
If you want to know what the mind/soul is, where it comes from, how it works, and how to manipulate it (in yourself and in others) you have to pursue esoterics. I see no other choice for me at this point. I have to know how the mind is controlled, because I don't see any other way out of this insane hell we live in where we worship the lowest, dumbest, disease-rag criminals and hate and shame the creators of civilization. Something has gone severely wrong in our world and I'm not content to just say "DA JOOZ LEWL" because I have to know how and why they're doing it if it's really them (it probably is).

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>>139517552
>distinguishing between roman and germanic gods
3/10

>>139506338
I've always found the black sun to be very aesthetic, it has pagan origins, correct?

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>>139506338

It's the prime radiant, the Sonnenrade, from which the Vrillspark emanates. When a human has earned their "Soul", usually between the ages of 27 and 33, they become imbued with the power to use "Vrill", or "Chi", or "Prana", or "Kundalini", or "Orgone" etc etc etc.

roughly ten percent of humans will succeed at creating a soul.

Aryanism is 'to live by imagination'. In short it's when the Neocortical brain (imagination/second sight) controls the Limbic brain (emotion/spirit) controls the Basal Ganglia(reptile instinct).

Air is the alchemical element of thought, thought is the sword that seperates things, the mind makes 'Decisions', 'Scissors' 'Schism'.

Wilhem, the typical patriarchal name of the chiefs of the Fatherland, is a compound word. The components are Vrill, and Helmet. Vrill is a mystical concept of breath control (Air, Aryan) analogous to the Hindu concept of Prana. It is a Sound produced by placing the upper teeth against the lower lip, and creating a buzzing V sound. Vibrations are what Nazi Rocket Scientists understood that nobody else could grasp, even after stealing the plans. The concept of a "Vrill Helmet" is left to your own Imagination; remember, To Be Aryan, Is To Live By Dreams.

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>>139519844

reach out to me.

>>139517669
Don't have it on hand, but if I'm not misremembering, the /OMG/ Mega.nz on /x/ has that treatise in it under the Left-Hand Path folder.
Word of caution if you go digging around in it though - Armchair'ing is one thing, but much like you would fuck with some of the rituals of the Tantric Sects, the LHP has many things that are very much well best left alone in practice.

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>>139520129
Yes.

https://youtu.be/o0TQ1gj8GQo

Whites were originally a pagan race before a Christian one, hard to fathom sometimes, but true.

7-1+2chan pol has a very interesting thread about Esoteric Hitlerism atm, I'd suggest you check it out.

>>139518997
When did I ever say anything about the black sun? All I said was that some type of Saturn character exists in all religions.

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bump

>implying I care what you think

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>>139506338
Krauts are aliens called vril

>>139521108
thread numbers?

>>139521681
998735

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>>139516368
>we, the bearers of this symbol, assume the power to control the procession of history for our own benefit, and you have no say in the matter
So it's Pepe for Naziboos.

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Was Thule real or just a Nazi fairy tale?

>>139521799
Pepe is a NatSoc symbol.

>>139521602
thread theme btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LXEGD-U8ZM
this belongs on >>>/x/

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>>139522264
CNN pls.

>>139522211
Forgot a 9 there; pol/res/9998735.html

>>139522176
It is real. It is beyond the domain of the Hyperboreans.

>>139522346
We need more /x/ threads on /pol/

>>139522385
Good shit. cripplechan is like the brainstem of /pol/, must be because the mods aren't antifa pedos.

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>>139506338
>Someone redpill me on the black sun
Recognizing the sun as the supreme benefactor of the material world, Hermetists believed
that there was a spiritual sun which ministered to the needs of the invisible and divine
part of Nature--human and universal. Anent this subject, the great Paracelsus wrote:
"There is an earthly sun, which is the cause of all heat, and all who are able to see may
see the sun; and those who are blind and cannot see him may feel his heat. There is an
Eternal Sun, which is the source of all wisdom, and those whose spiritual senses have
awakened to life will see that sun and be conscious of His existence; but those who have
not attained spiritual consciousness may yet feel His power by an inner faculty which is
called Intuition."
from The secret teaching of all ages by Manly P Hall
don't listen to the shills that say the nazi esotericism didn't exist. The Vril society was behind the creation of the nazi party.This fight beyween aryans and jews is older, the jews being servants of the Demiurge.
>jews and the demiurge
When the Patriarch Abraham had comprehended the great truths, meditated upon
them, and understood them perfectly, the Lord of the Universe (the Tetragrammaton)
appeared to him, called him His friend, kissed him upon the head, and made with him a
covenant. First, the covenant was between the ten fingers of his hands, which is the
covenant of the tongue (spiritual); second, the covenant was between the ten toes of his
feet, which is the covenant of circumcision (material); and God said of him, "Before
Abraham bound the spirit of the twenty-two letters (the Thora) upon his tongue and God
disclosed to him their secrets. God permitted the letters to be immersed in water, He
burned them in the fire and imprinted them upon the winds. He distributed them among
the seven planets and gave them to the twelve zodiacal signs.
from Sepher Yetzirah

>>139506338

Jupiter Symbolism.

Look for Azoth

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>>139522346
https://youtu.be/5V0U1ZuXIyw

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>>139523170
>Jupiter Symbolism.
wrong

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I saw it on a luciferian symbol, behind the fucked up goat, I don't like the idea.
Swastikas are purer imo. They represent the four seasons, the stars, the northern star and the big bear constellation.

>>139523689
Jews always appropriate our symbols. The eye of providence was a Christian symbol once.

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>>139524378
>our
you know, that would be badass, but I doubt it

still, some story remains untold

>>139506338
From what I understand, it is either a symbol of Saturn for when Saturn was the sun of this planet long ago or it is something more beyond our limited understanding and is a symbol of the Central/Galactic Sun, which may or may not be the Source of All light. If the latter is true, since light is information you could then conclude what? You have to exercise your brain and learn, not just digest what you read, otherwise you won't value it and it won't stick with you.

>>139516368

This guy explain something similar. It's about the psychology behind magic and occultism

Worth watching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UovujD0EUxY