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>the alt right are just right wing SJWs! Admit it, whatever

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>the alt right are just right wing SJWs!

Admit it, whatever you think of him aside, this has been the most effective and destructive argument against us yet.

How do you even counter this in an honest fashion?
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I want to defend my people and protect the future of my nation and I don't care what names you call me.
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>>139499094
>not really
there i countered it
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its dishonest, he called GGrevolt during Gamergate right wing Sjw's because they wanted to kick the shit in of sjw's instead of following Muh ethics only
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>>139499094
this guy did not invent that observation. it's just plain obvious to anyone that isn't awash in a sea of their own idiocy
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>>139499094
Becasue the Alt Right is about heritage, culture, etc- things that are very real, not about creating new identities that are oppressed.
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>>139499094
>against us yet.
>us
>implying you're not a lefty faggot
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>>139499208
you can do that without going full 1488. Dont be so fucking edgy. Be realistic.
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>>139499094
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
>False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which two opposing arguments appear to be logically equivalent when in fact they are not. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency
>A common way for this fallacy to be perpetuated is one shared trait between two subjects is assumed to show equivalence, especially in order of magnitude, when equivalence is not necessarily the logical result.[2] False equivalence is a common result when an anecdotal similarity is pointed out as equal, but the claim of equivalence doesn't bear because the similarity is based on oversimplification or ignorance of additional factors. The pattern of the fallacy is often as such: "If A is the set of c and d, and B is the set of d and e, then since they both contain d, A and B are equal". d is not required to exist in both sets; only a passing similarity is required to cause this fallacy to be able to be used.
>False equivalence arguments are often used in journalism[3][4] and in politics, where the minor flaws of one candidate may be compared to major flaws of anothe
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>>139499094
>us
fuck off
/pol/ is not one person, get the fuck out of here with this hive mind mentality
i'd never consider myself 'alt right'
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>>139499659
True. The SJW's are just shrill and useless. You autistic mother fuckers are objectively way worse.
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>us
>implying
He hasn't made a successful argument, he's just spouting a catchphrase.
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>>139499826
The false equivolence is a good rebuttel but not as good as my go to response: so.
"You're the same as SJWs!"
"So?"
"That makes you a hypocrit."
"So?"
"I don't like hypocrites."
"So?"
"I'm not gonna join your movement."
"So?"
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Has the alt right ever pushed for any kind of speech regulations?
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>>139499094
This nigga just got sued for 100k on copyright infringement, that's gotta hurt. His latest video was low energy af, you could notice he was demoralized lol
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>>139499094
SJW's stage retarded protests over retarded things and say dumb shit on college campuses in real life

The worst thing the alt right ever did was call someone a cuck on the Internet
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>>139499094
fuck off shill
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>>139499094
Fuck socialism
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>>139499094
I'm not alt right by any means but this is retarded. The SJW crowd is about destroying old institutions and creating a society built on social and economic equity. The Alt-Right is simply a group of white men who feel that destroying these institutions is wrong. We must uphold our nation, our values and the like. They believe this is done through fascism or other branches of authoritarianism. Personally, physical removal is better because if I don't want you in my property, please get out.
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>>139499094
The alt-right's arguments are the same kind of collectivism arguments of the far left and it's all about identity politics. Not to mention you can't be fighting or caring for freedom of speech or freedom in general when you believe in collectivism and the white race's purity and shit. It's completely contradictory.
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>>139499645
>don't aspire to relive real world events
>settle for half measures

A shekel for the good goy
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>>139499557
This. The left is still rabidly individualistic compared to the right, they're concerned with personal identity and freedom to choose (whether it be sexual freedom or whether not they can abort babies) while the alt right is focused on duty and hiearchy.

Tl;dr
>SJWs - "Every snowflake is unique"
>"Alt-right" - "The nail that sticks out the farthest gets hammered down first"

Drunk and phoneposting, forgive me.
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>>139499094
>How do you even counter this in an honest fashion?

You're going about this all wrong.

You look at the evidence and derive a conclusion.
You don't start with a presupposed conclusion and then search for evidence to support it.
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>>139499094
What defines an SJW is the fact they get so easily triggered over things they disagree with and refuse to engage in conversation. The Altright is the complete opposite of this, they enjoy discussion and shitposting and are determined to talk to people who disagree with them in order to swing them over to our side. We're nothing like SJW's it's just a typical stupid argument from the "superior alt centrists" that you hear when they get afraid of discussing ethnic nationalism, race realism and (((America's greatest ally))).
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>>139500632
The argument they make is that all the nice shit about western society can only exist within white majority countries.

You can btfo them by showing how western values are shared by feral niggers, ant people, and muds.
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>>139500632
The left don't actually acknowledge the collectivist nature of their idealogy though, while it's a quintessential aspect of most far-right idealogies.

The right wants structure and unity while the left wants """freedom"""" and (((diversity)))
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>>139500039
So?
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>>139500426
>fuck socialism
agreed.
Liberty for all.
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wasn't he arlright
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>>139499094
Ah yes, the rational Radical Centristâ„¢ is at it again, yes yes, identitarianism is evil, that's why I make videos about it and occasionally ask you to sign an online petition that means fuckall because I oppose identitarianism so much I'll gladly give ground until some actual reaction arises to counter it, then I denounce both the radicals and the reactionaries while still continuously ceding ground to progressives, or 'regressives' as I like to call them (pretty clever, heh?)!
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>>139500039
>i know u r i said u r but what am i???
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Alt-right are much more honest and peaceful, as well as being pro-white rather than anti-white. But tbqhwithyoufamalam he's got a point.
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>>139499094

He has the wrong definition of the Alt Right. When he says the Alt Right he means the Reactionist right or the White Nationalist right whatever you want to call them. Anyone who doesn't fit in with the mainstream neoconservatives like John McCain, or Paul Ryan, or Mitt Romney, is in the Alt Right.

There's a huge gap between John McCain and Donald Trump, and an even bigger one between John McCain and Richard Spencer. So it doesn't make any sense to label all those people in between the two >>139499208
as white nationalists just because they are outside of the mainstream neocons.
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We are Rightwing SJW's and we are porud of it just like we will be proud when we shove alt-lites/alt-cucks and cuckservatives in the concentration camps.
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>>139501474

He really has, hasn't he?

He's crushed us like bugs with one statement .. fair play to him, have to give the devil his due
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>>139499094
yeah, thats the fucking point.
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>>139499094
Nihilism isn't morally superior so stuff it.
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>>139499094
nahhh

Sargon is a faggot that literally saves gay porn to post and thinks its an argument
He got buttfucked by Milo. He claims hes 1/8th nigger. HE is a fucking SJW t b h

How many videos about Anita Sarkeesian did he make? Literally hundreds, fuck this fat retard.
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He's a disgusting Postmodernist looking through the eyes of Kant, Hegel, amongst other German counter enlightenment philosophers, and very likely borrowing for Derrida and other 20th century Postmodernists a without having actually read them.
Why?
Because that's how he and most people are educated from elementary school.

They are not taught an objectivist's point of view. In their world, there is no truth and reason/cognition can't be used to find it.

Since there is no truth, there is no right or wrong, since nothing is preferable to another then everything is equivalent.

Therefore Antifa and Alt Right are exactly the same.
What Sargon says does not have to be accurate or the truth, only that he is interesting or fosters social change.

He's a piece of shit who supports Postmodern Marxist arguments without even realizing it.
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>>139500822
the left is super concerned with culture, dumbass. they're just not concerned with "white culture" lol
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>>139503354
Omg wh*tes have no culture you fucking Nazi.
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>>139500632
>alt-left
>"fuck white people, we're going to tear down your nations, you will be replaced!"

>alt-right
>"we want to retain the culture and the demographic makeup of our societies and we want to ensure a peaceful and prosperous future for our descendants"

>*enlightened centrist busts in*
>"WOAH SLOW DOWN THERE DUDE, THAT'S COLLECTIVISM AND IDENTITY POLTICS, CAN'T HAVE THAT!"

What value do these wishy-washy notions of "freedom" even have when we're a hated and despised minority in our own historical lands?
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>>139503805
Liking stuff is just as bad as not liking stuff though.
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Ohh look...it's Faggon of Cuckadd and his alt-cuck philosophies. "Muh free market! Muh freedooms!!"
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>>139499208
Your people
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you will all be very pleased to find he is out of ebegging ideas to raise money for the court case that he isnt even going to fight i bet. ignore the fact i make so much from pateron goy, also pay money to come to my "live TWIS" shows
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>>139499094
Easily, but I'm not an alt-righter anyways.
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>>139503805
>"we want to retain the culture and the demographic makeup of our societies and we want to ensure a peaceful and prosperous future for our descendants"
>meanwhile in /pol/: 'fuck niggers, we're going to holocaust the jews, whites will be supreme!'

face it, you retards are hopeless
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>>139499094

Is there a pic sans beard?
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>>139503914
>>139504093

Faggon of Cuckadd is the MESSIAH we were waiting for. I can see it already, the White Masses charging against The Enemy shouting: "MUH FREE MARKETS!!! MUH FREEDOOMS!!"
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>>139502223
>Literally hundreds
you're thinking of thunderfoot
If you don't like someone's politics you can just say you disagree instead of fabricating lies. He posted gay porn in response to bait tweets, is straight & married, and his videos about feminism/sjw culture feature Anita because she's been a figurehead of those movements for close to a decade.
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sargoy dindu nuffin
he is the single biggest converter of normies
and he's being attacked from both sides

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd16eGCocRE
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>>139504619
That happens when you're a fucking Postmodernist.
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>>139499094
>An agressor attacks with force
>The victim defends himself against the attack with force
Enlightened centristTM: Omg you're both using force therefore you're really the same! Horseshoe theory wins again...
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>>139504619

?! Daily Stormer is our top operation by far. Faggon of Cuckadd is just another boring anti-SJW Youtuber babbling the same old "anti-SJW+Muh Free Market" boring crap that nobody really cares about.
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sage this shit
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>>139499208
>Muh people
Most of which could care less that you even exist
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>>139504601
>fabricating lies

He spent an hour on Joe Rogans podcast whining about Anita Sarkeesian, someone who isn't even fucking relevant anymore.

The dudes a cuck with ZERO original ideas, hes not breaking any new ground whining about internet feminism.
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>>139500426
Wow, I love this pic so much. Damn I miss old Ron Paul Libertarian/pol/.

Fucking stormniggers and nu/pol/ ruined everything :^(
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>>139503805
>"we want to ensure a peaceful and prosperous future for our descendants"
>we plan on doing this by screaming meme slogans and beating up on college students we vastly outnumber
>also we're cool with associating with people who identify with openly genocidal ideologies
>political violence is totally cool guys. The leftists did it first so it's okay now

Kind of strange that the culture you claim to be protecting has categorically disowned your pasty, doughy movement composed entirely of burnouts and Untermenschen. Maybe that should tell you something.
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Sargon is the most punchable face on Earth. He looks 40 an acts 13 (when on JRE flipping off to camera to show off to friend). I want him to get lupus so he has to much fatigue to produce content
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>>139505157
He's twice the age of all his internet friends
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>>139505157
>He spent an hour on Joe Rogans podcast whining about Anita Sarkeesian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrBCsLsSD2E
1:04-1:08
>4m is a hour
And his suspicions were correct: her cronies DID end up writing hit pieces on him after the conference painting him as the aggressor when all he did was sit down quietly. Stop lying.
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>>139505157

The whole Faggon of Cuckadd style of shit has peaked long time ago. It's boring, repetitive (alt-lite/alt-cuck are all plagiarizers), the kids dont give a fuck, etc, etc.

Anglinism (Andrew Anglin's "go all in and be very crude and childish" philosophy) is the only one withstanding the test of time.
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>>139506092
He complains more than most SJW. He is the definition of a man child. Attacks or Befriends people half his age. And he thinks he is waaay more fucking known than he really is
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>>139499208
fpbp

I've never watched sargon of fah-ghot, I especially don't intend to now.
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>>139499094

Isn't that the guy who participate in a coordinated online harassment campaign against some women?
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>>139506428
So after I've successfully called you out on lying twice you resort to more attacks on his character instead of the quality of his arguments. He's done more to bring the normies to our side than you ever will.
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>>139499094
no u
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Sjws are dependent on functioning white majority societies in which they can get special privileges and be worshipped for being PoC while insulting white people constantly
The alt right simply wants to secure a functioning white majority society therefore they are nothing alike.

Done and done. Boy that was easy.
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Sargon likes logic and dislikes those using sophistry.
Gradually, Sargon is beginning to hate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXqAQdh7cpg
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>>139499094
God how i hate this jewish cuck.

Wish jewtube finally fckin delete his gay channel
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>>139499094
As full of fags as I think the alt right is, they're slightly more tolerable. At least they're for free speech, they generally won't try and shut you down; and they're willing to debate.

They're equally cringy as fuck though. Everything literally being MUH WHITE GENOCIDE is the most jewish shit I hear on a daily from them.
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>>139499208
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>>139504281
>/pol/ is one person
>4chan is nuanced and restrained.
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Because he's right as in both sides collectivist cancer is rampant. My first-hand experiences with alt-right have proven this.
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>>139499094
maybe the ones who listen to this fuckwit, cant stand his voice.
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Skeptics will barely have 1 child, let alone 2. Meanwhile, minorities who demand give and have giant violent crime rates will have 6 kids.

The skeptic will have to financially support the 6 future crime committers (who also happen to vote left)

But demographics don't matter because muh centrism, amirite based austrilopithepedes?
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>>139499094
>beardhairs starting to go grey
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>>139501281
I bet you're a racist SNS voter from Žilina.

I'd rather be impregnated by Mohammed than you, Janko.
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>>139499208
face it, u have no nation anymore ahmed
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>>139500426


Stay in the middle of the road, it's the safest spot..cough cough
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>>139499094
they are both identity politics using retards
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>>139499094
Millenianial Woes countering this silly argument and also countering Sargon's argument relating to racial collectivism.

https://youtu.be/H4_n2ezPg6s

https://youtu.be/66FYjtG5k2w
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>>139506092
No you fucking faggot, I listened to the entire podcast, that was absolutely not the only time he brought up Anita you disingenuous you little faggot.
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>>139499094
I don't because he is right
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>>139506356

The market got saturated as fuck, there are like 25 semi-famous youtubers all doing the "still images with a meme image depicting the channel host as he narrates about feminism for 25minutes
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>>139502192
Beauty meme, swiped with gratitude, punk.
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>>139499094
nailed it
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>>139507985
Because if you say "Democrats (and European equivalents) are the real racists!" 1000x times a day, the low-IQ brown masses will totally not vote for "Gibs me dats".

Dumb identity White man and join the winning team...say "Democrats (and EU equivalents) are the real racists!"
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>>139508327
lol, don't think so pal

https://youtu.be/66FYjtG5k2w
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>>139508076
>consistently lies
>calls others disingenuous
bringing up =/= whining
That was the only segue in the interview where the topic was about him being a victim of her, aka: whining. Her other mentions are in the context of feminism/gamergate/sjw culture
give time stamps to claim otherwise nigger
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>>139499645
The longer the flooding goes on and the more you people criticize everyone trying to defend their countries as extremist the worse it's going to get. For example, I'd be for peaceful deportations. How likely do you think that's going to be when in 5 years the economy is going to get shit and Dortmund or Hamburg or Brussels or Birmingham look like Aleppo does now? Do you think people will still want peaceful solutions then?
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>>139508468
>consistently lies

he brought it up in the beginning of the podcast, he brought it up an hour later, then he brought it up later on multiple times throughout the podcast.

You can even hear Joe losing interest by the 3rd or 4th time he brings it up. Even that queer Milo had a more interesting podcast.

Why are Sargon fans so mindnumbingly stupid? Is it because he only talks about feminism so you've never had to think about anything beyond that or something?
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>>139499826

You have to go back.
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>>139508418
lol 1/2 hour response?
yeah I care that much
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>>139508638
>makes claims yet provides no evidence
You're really bad at this. Maybe if you stopped lying people would put more faith in your statements.
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>>139500426
>>139500632

The problem is that it's already started, if Blacks, Jews and Hispanics (for Europe replace those with Muslims of all stripes) do identity politics while every attempt of whites to stop it gets criticized as being "JUST THE SAME" which does nothing to stop the other groups the eventual outcome will make WW2 look like Disneyland.
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>>139500039
Nigger.
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>>139508355
Don't forget that leftists are the real Nazis.

>>139508000
Woes is just such a nice person. And they still painted him as a crazed WN straight out of American History X.
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>>139507035
He's just going to wait until the hard workers have done all the work shifting the overton window then will play Johnny Come Lately when it's safe.

Sargon was always boring and behind the curve.
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>>139509566
He has alienated both sides though which wont help if things are going to radicalize further. He also wont ever be really able to embrace white identity politics because he is a quadroon.
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>>139505630
What if I told you you can accept the fact that there are difference in races and still be a libertarian
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>>139506092
>t. lying sargon cocksucker

you really have no rights having any sort of self esteem faggot
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>>139506428
this tbqh
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>>139499094
He is mostly right.
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>be alt-right
>wants to maintain a future for whites

>be SJWs
>wants to deny a future for whites

>get called exactly the same

What did Sargon mean by this?
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>>139499094
The difference is a society full of sjws is not sustainable. A society full of alt-righters is sustainable.
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>>139500822
>This. The left is still rabidly individualistic compared to the right, they're concerned with personal identity and freedom to choose (whether it be sexual freedom or whether not they can abort babies) while the alt right is focused on duty and hiearchy
No they are not!!! They are concerned with groupism. Treatimg people as individuals and holding indiviudals accountable is not what the left does. You have idea what you are talking about.
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>>139510496
It's the same as people calling antifa fascist
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>>139510004

I would say being a libertarian would disqualify any abstract generalizations on race anyway so it wouldn't matter.
By definition a libertarian focuses on the individual, thier merits, and personal freedom.
Even if race was more than just aesthetic differences, individuals vary widely and must be treated on a case by case basis. Their freedoms must be preserved unless it imperils the freedoms of others.
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>>139499094
He looks like a pedophile. Why are you listening to pedos?
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>>139511147
And while you're doing this other races are working collectively to disenfranchise you in your homeland. How is your Libertarianism going to deal with that?
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>>139509873
>>139509566
He holds to paleo-liberal individualism as a guiding ideology. That's not bad.

But just as ex-libertarians had to discover, you can't have economic liberty with imported socialists and you can't have individualism with imported ethno-collectivists.
Liberty requires a non-liberty to protect itself.
Even a body cell has a damn cell wall.
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>>139511088
It's so shallow

fascists
>nationalistic
>concerned with strength and glory
>legitimizes hierarchy

antifa
>anti-nationalist
>concerned with fairness and equality (for non-whites)
>delegitimizes hierarchy, tends towards anarchy
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>>139511469

That's what makes the like of Faggon of Cuckadd so pathetic. The brown hordes couldn't care less about his "Muh individualism" and he acts as if the Race Issue is not an issue?! It's pathetic.
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>>139506953
This.
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Kwasicul wibrul
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>>139499094

There's nothing right wing about any of you cucks.

I've watched you chimps defend everything from gun control, to amnesty, to the welfare state.

The alt-right are liberals through and through. You pat yourselves on the back because you think you're somehow better than the average pajama boy liberal, but your politics is nearly indistinguishable from most other democrats.
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>>139499094
>>the alt right are just right wing SJWs!
this does not carry nearly as much weight as Sarcuck and his cronies think it does.
"SJW"-ism has been the most effective political and social tool of the 20th and 21st Century. The Right taking it up and using it to their own ends is devastating to the Left Wing because it takes their single tool and turns it entirely against them.

>"YOU ARE JUST RIGHT WING SJWS. OH GOT'CHA! WHAT NOW?"
Does anyone take these clownish statements seriously?
It would be like criticizing a man who uses a gun instead of knife in a gunfight.
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>>139499094
Liberal individualism is a group inheritance

Most human populations are clannish. For a variety of reasons, W.E.I.R.D. countries began to deemphasize clannishness throughout the middle ages, leading to the rise of individualism (and many good things aside, but thats another post). There's some theories about how this was due to lack of cousin marriage, the manorial system, rise of the nuclear family, but the causes are not super important. Suffice to say that the W.E.I.R.D. populations went through selective pressures that were relatively unique, which is why their treatment of minority groups is so startling different from the behaviour everywhere else on the planet.

Almost all other people are group>individual, its really only in one place that the opposite idea emerged. When you bring people from other cultures in and attempt to integrate them as "individuals", you fail. They retain their ethnic identities. Why would you expect them not to? These are people who emphasize kinship at the expense broader society. When they come to the west, they perceive their ethnic group as an extended family, surrounded by strangers.

Sargon thinks that the right plays identity politics for whites while the left plays identity politics for everyone else. This is retarded. Blacks would not suddenly stop acting as an ethnic bloc if the left tried to deracinate them. Losing their black identity would be a catastrophe for them. Leftist identity politics just takes advantage of blacks as an ethnic bloc, it didn't make them become one.

In a true multiethnic democracy, you survive as an ethnic bloc or you don't survive. Lee Kuan Yew understood this perfectly, which is why he decided to say fuck democracy. If you'd like to keep democracy (I assume centrists would), then you need to start reevaluating multiculturalism or start reevaluating white identity, because white liberal individualists will get their asses handed to them by groups that vote and act as groups.
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Centrists and civic cucks are retarded.

Just like leftists, they are ok with their family becoming non white.

White minority = the left wins election
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>>139511771
Yes, but Sargon is not our main problem, he at least can understand our argumentation. The problem are "muh empathy" fags. Can't reason with those zombies.
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>>139499094
Sargon consuses offense with defense. He confuses racism with anti-racism. Note that the famous leftist "anti-racists" are lying, they are not anti-racists but rather racists. they want to hurt white people because they are white. the leftist definition of racism is whites not giving everything (their civil rights and property) to blacks and muslims, while for the right racism is wanting to take everything and kill us is racism.
While he applies different rules for different folks, he can make it look equal.
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>>139512553

Fucking boomer Mitchell
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>>139511147
That's a great point, until you do statistics and look at the problem we're seeing
>13% of the population commits 50% of the crime, proportionately takes up the most welfare, and has contributed a net negative to society for near it's whole existence as citizens
>they have no family unit

To me, it seems clear that this group has a problem, much like how whites and latinos and asians have their own sets of problems, but theirs is more immediately concerning (specifically, the murder aspect, mr. NAP), so here's what I'd do, to preserve individual liberty yet still address the group's shortcomings and hopefully raise them to be a productive part of society:

>institute welfare for children based on grades (so that kids feel like they're getting literally paid to do well, and their parents will feel like helping them to take their cash) completely audit adult welfare spending, remove welfare for drug use with an option to take rehab and get your gibs back
>force welfare recipients into job placement until they make post taxes what they recieved in gibs, do not give them their wages until they're even, use it to pay for other gibs
>give every welfare recipient the option to join the military and recieve a short term gib bonus of 10,000 (you'd be surprised how many would lose their shit and join immediately, which will turn them into patriots)
>give low-priority access to college for gib recipients (not the kids, just the adults on gibs, the kids with gibs parents get accepted like anyone else), this forces colleges to accept normal people, which will shift college culture.
In my opinion, you should use the system they have in place to wean them off it, and incentivize the family unit with tax sheltering, benefits, etc. I think every household should recieve equal benefits for raising kids, as in as much as welfare recipients are getting.
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>>139513877
That made no sense at all. None of it.
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The "alt-right" are just democrats who hate jews and blacks instead of Christians and whites
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>>139499094
Having actual legitimate complaints and using actual hard science and observation AKA Real Science makes us the same as people arguing fee fees and meanie words and that everything is equal when it obviously isn't
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>>139499094
Another thing Sargon refuses to realize, is that only with a white majority can a country have rule of law and equal rights liberal capitalist democracy. A white minority acts as a resource or prey/slaves to non white non-productive peoples. Don't mention nonwhite majority capitalist countries with zero whites living there. the presence of a large number of white people makes everyone else to change their lifestyles to become parasites: AKA demand communism. "White minority countries" can only be communist countries!
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>>139514187
The right wants to stop a genocide against white people. The left wants to continue their genocide against white people, while falsely accusing white people with wanting the same against other peoples. Action and reaction are not interchangeable, assault and defense are not interchangeable. Sargon refuses acknowledge that.
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>>139499645

The pendulum swung too far left, it needs to swing full right to reverse the damage.
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No, it's really not. Alt-right is just rebranded Nazis and white supremacists, they've always been around.

Sargon and his radical centrist skeptics are actuallt the equivalent of SJWs.
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>>139504137

All i see in that pic are globalists.
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>b-but what about muh horseshoe theory!
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>>139499094
We're not just right-wing SJWs. That's simplistic. We're about 30% right-wing SJWs, 20% people who want to tear down the achievements of European civilization and replace them with a nightmarish totalitarian police state, 5% people with serious psychiatric disorders, 15% ironic trolls, 5% lefties, 5% libertarian fundamentalists, and 20% more or less rational people who want to rethink stuff like immigration policies.
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>>139499094
>muh reason
rationality is implicitly white, sargon
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>>139515516
>Alt-right is just rebranded Nazis and white supremacists
LIES.
the alt right is the only movement opposing to stop white genocide and third world-ization. this genocide against white people only became known about 15 years ago. Most people deny the fact that it is going on at all.
Either genocide (eliminating the white race through migration, supression of white family bonding, race mixing), or inter-racial communism (whites become slaves to nonwhite migrants through welfare state and rapegangs). Both needs to be stopped.
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>>139499208
stinking identitarian
skin color doesn't matter
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>>139516143
You'd be taken more seriously if you didn't call it a "genocide" or exaggerate the numbers.
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>>139499094
Counter by saying that sargon is a right wing sjw too
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>>139499094
SJW's want to destroy tradition while the alt right wants to keep it
Their behavior is the same but the best choice is quite obvious
That's like saying that a guy who kills a man for vengeance is the same as a guy who kills a man to defend his wife
Utterly retarded
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>>139499094
It's true though.
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>>139516256
>skin color doesn't matter
- to degenerates.
A white minority country is an inter-racial communist country where the parasitic masses endlessly suckle the blood of (economic value created by) white people.
Your world view is based on the rejection of science, biological difference of different races (iq, self-control, planning, violence, economic/intellectual abilities). This rejection always calls for false accusations of racism/oppression to compensate for different outcomes (prosperity) of different races.
If skin color doesnt matter, then why your comrades keep complainign about black povery and black people shot by police, even talking about racism? Race matters to you the most, more than to anybody else.
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>>139516651
Give hard evidence showing that Europe is actually in any danger of being third-worlded.
European non-white population is <10% according to official data. If you dispute that, give evidence of some sort.
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>>139499094
easy.

the alt-right label is a lazy way to group non-thinkers together with thinkers, and thus dismiss them through generalizing statements that only apply to one part of a very large group of anti-establishment right wingers.
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>>139499094
call them fence sitters or mention horseshoe theory
works every time
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>>139516936
The millions of them coming in each year coupled with the Arabs and Africans having higher fertility, partly caused because natives are being forced to pay for the foreign kids?

The USA went from 90% white in 1965 to 56% with a comparatively stricter immigration policy and it's already breaking apart at the seams, Europe is much smaller than the USA and has far less agricultural and mineral ressources, how do you not see this ending badly?
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>>139516936
do you understand chain migration?? Do you understand that the EU leaders are trying to pile more millions of migrants on top of that 10% ? Do you understand that 20+% muslims in a timid fearful european country can take over control locally (rendering the official government impotent to counter them)?
Birth rates with non-white-privileged welfare state (if you are a nafri muslim, then you dont have to prove you looked for work, you just get enough money to raise 6 children) creates a 180degree demographic shift in 1-2 generations?

It requires some intellect to see the genocide in seemingly independent policies pieced together.
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>>139499208
Why do you want to protect your people?
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>>139517975
It's probably going to come to blows relatively soon. We're not too far away from demographics reaching the state of Bosnia in the 90s, our economies wont be able to pay them off for much longer.

I give it 5 years at the most.
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>>139499094
>How do you even counter this in an honest fashion?

The Alt-Right aren't real...?
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>>139517730
>>139517975
It might end badly. But I'm not convinced by all these alarmist scenarios. You guys aren't giving me any evidence, you're just making vague claims about EU leaders, various speculations, and comparisons to the US (which, keep in mind, has a 15% black population dating back to slave times).
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>>139517975
To be more specific, when you say:
>Birth rates with non-white-privileged welfare state (if you are a nafri muslim, then you dont have to prove you looked for work, you just get enough money to raise 6 children)
It doesn't prove this:
>creates a 180degree demographic shift in 1-2 generations
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>sargon of akkad
his name triggers me
this snow nigger should identify with his own heratige , or lack thereof
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>>139499094
Um no. Right wing believes in our Republic which protects the individual from the tyranny of the masses and allows our pursuit of happiness. The left wing is all about tyranny of the majority and what's subjectively best for "the village" and a jackboot on the face of the individual.
I'm over here like, stay the fuck out of my yard or I'll come to your village and burn the whole fucking thing to the ground.
Non-Aggression Principal.
I'm not even going to look in to this fuckwad's opinions. I can already tell he would dangerously hold the brigade back and we'd have to shoot him for the health of the unit. He is literally wasting our air.
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>>139518294
>I give it 5 years at the most.

They learned their lessons from Bosnia. We've been getting poisoned with estrogen for about 30 years because of that.

Our population has become too docile.

Those that have not yet been sufficiently domesticated, are being labeled as Nazis and get socially and economically destroyed.
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>>139499094
I don't because I dont debate politics with radical retards.
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>>139518556
Muslims are trouble whereever they are, I don't care if you know some FUCKING BASED doctor from Persia or whatever, they ran child sex slave rings in Rotherham when they only had 3% of the population there. Sweden didn't have any cases of gangrapes until the government decided to go for diversity. France has been in a continued state of emergency since Bataclan because shit just wont ever stop. As soon as Muslims get into any position of power they advocate for more Muslim immigration and try to paper over the attacks of their own kind. How's any of that not going to lead to disaster?

Blacks are really fucking bad to have (and we get plenty of those as well) but the USA is fucking huge and can afford to pay them off as to largely only kill each other. Europe really can't afford much deadweight.

One more thing, Turks are generally held at the best type of Muslims since they're largely secular. They're disastrous to have, in Germany about 50% of them is on the dole. And that's the model Muslim group.
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>>139499094
That isn't an argument, and it has either been effective or destructive. I'm still waiting to see this idiot debate Mike Enoch.
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>>139519141
"Radical" is a completely relative term. What was considered sane and normal 70 years ago would be considered radical by many people now. Congrats on being nothing more than a defender of the status quo.
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>>139499094
Implying wanting what every other country in history wants, is SJWism
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>>139519464
Sure, I agree for the most part. But none of that is evidence for the alarmist scenarios of Europe being taken over by non-whites.
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>>139518556
Frankfurt is now the first city to be officially minority German and is literally ruled by an anti-German, socailist kike. Many more cities soon to follow.

>crime stats look like this per capita and all the groups at the top are coming into Europe
You guys are alarmists!!

Yeah whatever, dude
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Hes right.... mostly.
He's leaving out the most important part.

You aren't even really right wing. You literally ARE just SJWs.
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>>139518853
Well, in Germany (and probably every country but France and Britain) we imported a ton of disparate groups that are at each other's throats as much if not more than at whiteys. So it'll probably be closer to all against all with whites forming the largest blocks. And Muslims suck at modern warfare. I also don't buy the Estrogen shit, maybe in the larger cities, but definitely not in the rural areas here. So the cities might be lost temporarily but then the invaders will be stranded there without reinforcements.

Also, we got Trump in the WH and not Hillary, and for all of his faults he is at least 6 million times better than her for the simple reason that I can't see him side with Mussies against the natives.
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>muh you just want a safe space like the SJWS!!

Yes. Every society is a safe space, where we have given the state authority to enforce certain rights. Now ask yourself which safe-space you want to live in. The right? or the left? or are you going to sit on your centrist ass until your space is invaded by commies and muslims who don't give a fuck about liberty and free speech?
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>>139499208
Hate Speech!!!
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>>139518556
By the time the evidence is solid enough, you will not be able to protect your children from being raped weekly by african migrants.
You have to keep an eye on the trends daily, over several months. Read breitbart, wnd every day. Watch old videos of red ice, even sargon. You will get the big picture after a while. You are saying it is our responsibility to educate you? Where is your own responsibility to educate yourself? We did it, spent a lot of time and effort.
The US black population is responsible for most of the violent crimes in the US. that is why american police looks paramilitary tough guys, while European police walks around with a pen and smiles at criminals.

Demographic shift: white Europeans are over taxed and under-paid, while at work all day. They are able to fford ~1.5 children. Recent years it is 1 child/couple. economic third world migrants have ~5 children average and get enough money from our taxes to support them.
Math:
In one generation (if we close the borders now):
80% Europeans * (1.5children / 2 parents) = 60% (relative to todays population)
10% migrants * (5children / 2 parents) = 25%
after 2 generations:
60% Europeans * (1.5children / 2 parents) = 45% (relative to todays population)
25% migrants * (5children / 2 parents) = 62.5%
Done, fucked!
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>>139520144
Wikipedia article on Frankfurt:
>According to data from the city register of residents, 51,2 percent of the population had an immigrant background as of 2015. For the first time a majority of the city residents had a non-German background.[26] Moreover, three of four children in the city under the age of six had immigrant backgrounds.[27] Moreover, about 27,7 percent of residents had a foreign citizenship.[28]
Here's the thing, though: "immigrant" isn't the same thing as "non-white". Immigrants include people from other European countries. Do you have any reason to believe that Frankfurt is minority white?
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>>139520059
Germany has the largest population in the EU, second largest in Europe period. We have about 4 to 5 million young men aged 20-35 iirc. You saw the pictures of the refugees coming in right? Mostly young men of that age group, about 1 million each year. Soon they'll be able to bring in their families. Merkel is probably going to allow family reunification in 2018. Do you see the problem?

Also we've had a steady inflow of Turks since the 1960s (about 3 million now) and other 3rd world debris since the Red-Red-Green government (late 1990s).
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>>139519856
Whats the fucking point? If you point out socialists believe in public ownership of means of production and historical materialism, then you get shat on. If you point out fascists believe in a heavily centralised government with a dirigist model, you also get shat on. Eventually you just realise nobody's trying to have an honest conversation so you give up and move on. Not saying you should abandon being politically active, just that being selective of whom you engage with is not always a bad idea.
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>>139520274
Dude, you shouldn't just attack innocent humanlike objects made of straw. That's racist.

Anyway: fuck Sargoy of Mossad. That literal fat cuck. If I want to listen to some dumbass anti-white garbage, I can listen to the 100 other channels that exist with ten times as many subscribers as him. Like uh racist and sexist much girl.
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>The sane and the insane are the same

Refute me /pol

Haha I win.
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>us

You have try harder.
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When the fuck will people learn that democracy is a game of demographics? And that other ethnic groups don't agree with your views?
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>>139499094
>How do you even counter this in an honest fashion?
You can't because it's true.
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>>139520879
it doesnt matter if white people survive anon, the muzzies and black will fight for our free speech in the future, i'm sure of it :-) stop being a sjw racist!!
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>>139499094
It's incredibly easy to counter this. Simply put, an sjw is an extremely easy type of individual to categorize. They are all lumped into that one group of people who are completely walking the same line and saying exactly the same stupid things over and over again. The alt-right comprises a much wider and more complex group of individuals and groups. SJWs will admit to their membership in that distinct group whereas people are they alt right oftentimes do not see themselves (for the most part) as members of a group but rather they consider themselves to be like-minded individuals from various backgrounds who share the same common principles. I wonder why this faggot wants to group right-wing people in with sjws in the first place?
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>>139499094
The fact that ur waving a nazi flag makes me think you are a shill. I'm not even gonna bother reading the thread, probably a bunch of (((tactics))) to make me not want an ethno state.
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>>139520787
Yes, walking the street for one. Secondly, they keep coming. Thirdly, there's no way to elect our way out of this, both candidates of the big parties want to increase immigration for "humanitarian reasons". It's the same way in most countries in Europe, Charles Murray goes into it in his latest book. Everywhere the population wants immigration to end, yet every party is comitted to let it continue. The Tories following new Labour is a great example, or Angela Merkel holding a speech about Multi Culturalism failing then opening the borders wider than a Panzer Division could.
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>>139520658
I'm not saying there isn't a problem, I'm saying that the alarmist scenarios sound like bullshit to me, and they're not helping to convince anybody who isn't either dumb or already on board.
Your math only indicates a problem if we assume that Europeans will idiotically continue to fund 5 children/migrant (if that's even an accurate number to begin with) as non-white populations keep rising. But this I doubt. Alarmism aside, if <10% of Europe is currently non-white then it makes sense why Europeans don't seem as alarmed on average by all this as you are.
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>Right wing SJWs
Whatever it takes to win
Otherwise
I don't care.
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>>139520787
I live here, yes. And I know what it's like. And this is Germany, not the EUSSR. And if you think, becoming the minority in your own city, and then country is okay, just because most of them are other Europeans, we have nothing more to discuss. Because you are okay with destruction of the identity and the nation of a people with two thousand years of history at the hands of an evil agenda. Besides: in the "problematic" districts, the majority are indeed becoming non-white and non-European. I was there about six weeks ago and two school classes walked past me: not one white child was among them. Not a single one.
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>>139520787
That's true. A lot of immigrants in Western Europe are Whites but alarmism works in our favor so i use alarmism all the time.
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>>139521042
Of courshe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQZKCH2hwa0
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>>139520658
>Read breitbart, wnd every day

You're right with everything you've stated but I just want to add that while Breitbart wants us to be at throats with the Muzzies they oppose the only good way to deal with the situation - deportations and the restorations of ethno-states. They also give money to Jewish organizations which advocate open borders for Germany and Austria.
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>>139521344

That's the spirit. I don't give a fuck about ideology and philosophy anymore. VICTORY is all that matters.
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>>139520839
>>139521301
I think that European politics will gradually shift, in the next 10-20 years, against letting the demographic shifts continue. If it's still going on 20 years from now, then it will be time to be seriously alarmed.
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>>139520339
Plastics leaked estrogen for decades. It's in fertilizer. It's in anti-depressants, anti-anxiety, pain medication, birth control, animal growth-hormones, clothes produced in China (polyester).

All this is also leaking into the groundwater, poisoning the plants and animals and starting the cycle all over. It is also not filtered out by the water treatment facilities, which means everyone is drinking it.

So no, no one in the 1st world is safe. Ironically, you'd be more safe if you lived in the 3rd world.

Even if we did, somehow, rise up, we're at a technological level where we'd be annihilated by either our sitting corrupt governments, or their allies (the global power elite).
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You don't really counter that. Most alt-rightists I've talked to didn't really convinced me of being that thoughtful. All I've got was "fuck you, you retarded fence sitting cuck!". How convincing! They must really have a point!

The most you can say is that you're not exactly the equivalent of Antifa because at least you're not out to punch people.

Yet.
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>>139521375
Then you are a German nationalist, not a white nationalist.
>>139521410
Well, I guess at least you're half-honest...
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>>139521410
You shouldn't. It discredits a real catastrophic situation and gives our enemies ammunition which they otherwise wouldn't have and needed directly to lie.
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>>139499094
co-opt the left and call him a garbage human
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>>139521557
Kikebart is shit and tries to just get us hate muzzies for Israel while maintaining the diversity narrative? Oh no!
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you can't, he's 100% right
sjws: muh wimmin and minorities
alt-right: muh white people
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>>139499094

Commie SJW faggots: fuck white people

Sane White people ("alt-right"): why are you targeting us?


Lolmfao look at those right wing SJW
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>>139521686
That's because they are being 100% honest with you. You are a fucking cuck if you believe your western values will be represented by foreign ethnic groups.
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>>139521304
This problem is preventable. (no will so far)
This problem is stoppable. (no will so far)
This problem is not fixable once complete (unless willing to murder millions).

That is the problem. Do you get it?
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>>139521726
Whatever that's supposed to mean other than: Yes, you cannot really compare the USA with Europe and the arguments differ. BUT the anti-white agenda is essentially the same.
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>>139499094
>muh opinion

Shitty argument deserves no more than a wikipedia rebuttal:

>"Social justice warrior" (commonly abbreviated SJW) is a pejorative term for an individual promoting socially progressive views,[1] including feminism,[1][2] civil rights,[1] multiculturalism,[1] and identity politics.[3] The accusation of being an SJW carries implications of pursuing personal validation rather than any deep-seated conviction,[4] and being engaged in disingenuous social justice arguments or activism to raise personal reputation, also known as virtue signalling.[5]

Apart from the identity politics, none of that is remotely applicable to us.

Protip #1: Claiming that someone is basing their argument on "muh feels" isn't enough to label them SJWs.

Protip #2: We don't actually use muh feels, but evidence. And offensive memes.

Protip #3: Our identity politics is reactive and legitimate when we are objectively being invaded and our concerns ignored, as opposed to minorities who are being coddled.
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>>139521557
Keep pushing the overton window.
1. stop
2. reverse
3. prosecute all those responsible.
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>>139521985
it's not murder if it's self-defence
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>>139521686
Im not interested in debating you libtards, cuckservatives, alt-lite/alt-cucks, losertardians, etc anymore...it's like throwing pearls are pigs.

Im down with "Anglinism" (Andrew Anglin's method of using Jew-style methods of raw emotion, humor, ridicule, childishness, etc, etc)

All you non Nationalist-Racialists can go swallow negro cum and lesbian menstrual fluid.
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>>139521985
I question that the problem is serious in the first place. It might be, but the evidence I've seen hasn't convinced me.
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>>139521732

Our enemies made remarkable advances by using lies, deceit and raw emotion.

Whatever it takes to win. We will out-Jew the Jew by creating our own "1968".
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>>139499094
Ask him if it was the alt right who stopped the monetization of his channel, almost closed his crowdfunding account, banned him from Twitter, banned him from Facebook, filled a lawsuit against him for copyright bullshit, sent him threats of violence, tried to destroy his private life, has the connections and the establishment support and the fundings to make all of that possible.

Now in that regard can he repeat that the 2 groups are the same without looking like a total cuck?
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>>139521575
We had 1 million Africans and Arabs in 2015, slightly less in 2016 and probably going to have the same for this year and 2017 - for Germany alone. The systems are breaking down and they're hellbent on bringing in more in 2018. There wont be any elections in 10 years, or 5 years even.
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>>139522101
It's only called "white" because it's discussed within an american context. Europeans don't think about "white people". That's because our white nationalists won't consider the country next door as white. Only themselfes. But make no mistake - it's western values that are under attack. only the western people can save them.
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>>139499094
to argument i think, we are not like sjw trying to destroy something, we are trying to preserve soemthing that we value, because we can show that it is good,
and as humans are a social species we are predetermined to use collectivism in some extent to do this, humans are inherently collectivist, some more some less, so it's just natural, also there are studys that show (ok i watched a yt video by colttaine but i think he had legit sources etc. )political leanings as character traits are actualy inherited, which means mild forms of ethnocollectivism are natural for humans,
also there is as i think a human need for identity as we need to know where we stand in a group. we are not trying tochange the world into our utopia but we want to get the society back that helped us surviving in this reality
humans want to be like there ancesters, that's the problem with black americans as they go to college and find out there ancestersmost of the time didn't achieved shit.

we need to make clear we want to stop the left , not to destroy every non white population,
i think most of us , can agree of this can't we?
right wing identity politics are inherently not the same as the leftwing identity politics as the left uses identity as weapon. er use it as a shield to not embrace abd behaviour
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>>139522529
>There wont be any elections in 10 years, or 5 years even.
Oh come on, you don't expect me to take you seriously when you say things like that, do you?
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>>139521964
The right are supposed to kick the faggot leftists' asses, not pussies crying about being targeted. You sound like a cuck.
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>>139521979
A minority white country will not have freedom and liberalism, it will have inter-racial communism (whites as slaves to the majority parasites who constantly reinforce this system by their democratic votes) or a third world system of government (sharia law or similar).
Liberalism, liberty, western values only work in majority white countries. That why race matters so much. Sargon and other ignorant fucks refuse to see it.
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>>139499094
ethnic and human protection, preservation and propagation of culture of your own kin, is not equal to social justice in any way shape or form.

one is constructive, other is destructive.

you people are fucking retarded and i even aint altright.
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>>139521603
Eh, we'll see. I'm hopeful we can make it. If for no other reason that I can't see the current situation go one for a while. Something's gotta give.
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>>139522634
I know what you are saying and agree, it's just hard to put american "white" into the context. Would you consider italians white? spaniards? Portuguese? real question, i would like to be proven wrong
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>>139500185
Yes
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>>139499208
Guess what Black Lives Matter argues for?

I don't get why you people have a mental breakdown when Sargon or anyone else says this.

You're tribalists looking out for your own skin color just like BLM is.

Is it because you've been thinking you were fighting 'identity politics' for so long that you didn't see that you were actually adopting the same thing?
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>>139522486
Yeah, that's...like your oppinion, man. When I was still not aware of the actual facts and in my decision making process, if there was ONE thing that turned me off, it was the exaggerations and sometimes outright lies and made up shit of the right.

I think it's wrong. And our "enemies" made advancements because of three hundred years of progressive history, the current liberal-anglo-Jewish world order and WW2.

If our enemies lie, our weapon has to be truth and reality. Otherwise it is far too easy to say: "Yeah, well, all of you lie. So fuck you!" Same with violence btw.
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>>139499094
Is this Joshua Will ?!
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>>139499645
Sometimes I think this, but when I see threads like this: >>139507660 I am reminded that it's nearly impossible to only go halfway with these things anymore
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>>139522856
>white
one that is born into and developed from European culture and history.

There are many Caucasians. not many of them are white.
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>>139522976
Okay, a gun to your head, you MUST choose no cheating:

>black lives matter identity politics
>alt right identity politics
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>>139522593
Again, what do you think is going to happen with these numbers? Do you think it's just magically going to solve itself? Brussels has no interest in solving it, neither do any of the parties, government or anyone state apparatus'.

>>139522161
Yeah of course, just to keep in mind if they make it seem like Germans are to blame for this. I mean, technically Merkel is but we're not even allowed to directly vote for her. And the other choice is some crypto-Jew who is literally running on a platform of Social Justice.
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>>139523181
what other politics would there be, if not identity?
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>>139522976
Well said
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>>139520658
>By the time the evidence is solid enough, you will not be able to protect your children from being raped weekly by african migrants.
This is an all too perfect example of why everyone detest stormniggers and don't take you seriously.
You guys are just scared. Fear is the oldest tool of those who sit at the top.
Authoritarianism, left or right, is disgusting and those who believe in it need to read more.
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>>139522976
>Guess what Black Lives Matter argues for?
Dead cops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqQXmnMr_w8

And then acting on their words https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRZCjBQRo5A


Fuck off leaf and become majority Chink already
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>>139523304
rainbows and sunshine for the good centrist goyim
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>>139523271
I think (and hope) that European politics will gradually shift towards an understanding of the importance of protecting native demographics. I certainly don't think that elections will be cancelled 5 or 10 years from now, or anything of the sort.
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>>139499094
VE VAZ KANGenshteins!
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>>139523352
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

This happened with Muslims being in the single digits of the population of the town, similar things all over Britain. France has a lot more Muslims, they get shit like Bataclan and the Nice truck of peace. What do you think will happen with ever more of them and them gaining control of institutions?
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>>139523135
And how far back does the family tree have to go? Can a black man be white if his family have lived on european soil for 4 generations, and is educated to the level of the average european?
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>>139499094
you know, in a livestream like 2 months back he said in passing "its a good thing that /pol/ exists"
I bet before the month is out he's gonna be screeching for our shutdown now
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Is that the dude who circumcised himself in is car ? How sad is that ?
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>>139523693
Well being Caucasian is required.
You could deconstruct entire thing by pointing out possible exemptions. But saying white is generalizing. So the rule does not apply to individual cases.

We would just call that negro "honorary white"
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>>139523787
>I bet before the month is out he's gonna be screeching for our shutdown now
Essentially he already did that, because it was HIM who told Kraut and Cuck to get Rage after Storm fired from UKIP. He admitted that in the comment section.

Besides the "skeptics" need a new enemy now for the shekel flow, since the SJWs are absolutely dead now. And many of the skeptics have gone full progressive. IF anyone is just another SJW, it is actually them.
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Well its about time somebody stood up to the SJWs. I honestly didn't care who came along. Anybody better than nobody.
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>>139523530
That would have been possible in the 1990s. It's too late now. In Britain you have Muslim MPs saying shit like Rotherham should stay hidden as to not damage diversity (we all know it's just so they can import more Muzzies and increase their own political power). In Germany and Sweden Muslim official said the respective countries have always been nations of immigrants with no inherent culture anyway. In German state television (which we are forced to pay for) some fat Turkish bitch said that in the future you wont have many blonde people in Germany anymore and we should embrace it. It might sound stupid but just take a look at demographics. I don't even wish those people harm, I'd just like them deported as peaceful as possible, however I feel this is going to become very, very bloody and I wont welcome it.
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>>139524269
But what reason is there to actually believe that it's too late? Do you dispute that Europe is less than 10% non-white? That doesn't sound very alarming to me. I don't even think it's too late here in the US, with our 40% non-white population.
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>>139524130
He's already made a ton of videos attacking Nazis, both to keep having an enemy to attack (Woes made a really good video on the Skeptics being nothing but anti-SJWs) and to keep in the good graces of YouTube, lest he have to get off his fat quadroon ass and actually work.

Also, link to that comment?
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Is the dude a dudette now ?
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>>139499208
go ahead is your birthright and your native lands, do not let leftist guilt you into surrendering your country
>muh imperialism
>muh nazis
>muh slavary
there is no culture of people without blood in there hands why do they only want whites to pay?
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>>139521572
Don't know if you are being sarcastic.
Philosophy and ideology are derived from culture.
Culture comes from the wild.
It manifests itself from the habits man adopts in reaction to the physical world in order to survive.
Though Goethe went past culture into philosophy and ideology to come to the conclusion that "the purpose of life is life" he is also innately correct. This is the prime law of nature in fact it's foundations are so low that it is below the very concept of "law".
It just is and it permeates everything.

Victory is survival and defeat is death.
So yeah if some E-Celebrity (one i kind of like by the way) wants to call me a right wing SJW what the fuck is that compared to fighting for me and mine own survival?
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Omg she a he !
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IDENTITY POLITICS ARE BULLSHIT

WE ARE ALL ATOMIZED INDIVIDUALS

ENLIGHTENMENT CLASSICAL LIBERAL PRINCIPLES

MY MOTHER IS NO MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN A PERSON IN AFRICA

WHAT ARE YOU, SOME SORT OF COLLECTIVIST??
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>>139524467
Well, I stated above as to how it looks in the relevant bracket (fight age men), it's approaching the levels of Bosnia in the 90s. You know how that went right? Either we accept them ruling us over the wonderful measures of democracy or we deal with it in the old fashioned way. That is, IF everything holds which I think is even more unlikely. European states have pretty big government, it relies on everybody being relatively productive, the scum that's coming in just sits on welfare, erodes social trust (less productivity) and costs a fortune in social programmes and extra security.
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>>139524575
Well, they aren't really anti-SJWs actually. They don't disagree with the content of their agenda, just the method. But Woes already said that, too. And so did I.

Could you create a TRIGGERED Pepe with Sargoy's facemask on it...?
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>>139499094
>Implying

Equivocation is one of the most powerful pro identitarian arguments
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>>139499094
>Fuck evil white people they should be exterminated already
>Well in that case fuck you nigger I will fight to defend my country and my people
>Sargon comes along
>Can't you see these people are exactly the same?

Centrists like Sargon can't see that the time for peaceful solutions has long passed. Niggers and white traitors are openly calling for whites to be killed or beat up simply because they're white and idiots like Sargon are too busy virtue signaling about how neutral and therefore how ''smart'' and ''above it all'' they are. In times of extremism such as this being a centrist is fucking retarded and accomplishes nothing.
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>>139499094
It's a logical fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
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>>139521603
stay woke black dude
that crap turned the frogs into mutant freaks (gay frogs) and the fish too
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>>139524925
You almost had the right idea. MY mother is more important than a person in Africa, but some other person's white mother isn't.
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>>139524052
Wouldnt he just be a westerner, then?
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>>139499094
We're just trolling them by parroting their talking points back to them. What happens is the mildly-brainwashed and people on the fence see how ridiculous they are and it breaks the Leftist spell.

Literally we're just pretending to be retarded. And we're winning. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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Imagine being able to make a living by making half-assed videos where you read other people's articles with forced laughter interspersed, while also comparing things you don't like to unrelated things you don't like?
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>>139525201
I was thinking the same thing. Either Western/European/(whatever country he lives in)ian

I think if you're really not concerned about culture and not race (and as a leftist fag I actually agree with you about that) you should make that clear rather than saying that believing in freedom and liberalism means you're white
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>>139526055
Correction: "Westerner" and "I think if you're really concerned about culture". I need to proofread my posts.
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Its true but you can counter it by saying fascism is necessary to stop communism and that hitler did nothing wrong etc. unless sargon can prove the holocaust etc happened and the jews are not a problem then he can't really argue against that line of thinking
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>>139499094
What we "whine about" is actual problems. Not cutting off a cock.
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>>139524985
>in the relevant bracket (fight age men), it's approaching the levels of Bosnia in the 90s.
Evidence?
Besides, the situation as a whole isn't similar to that of Bosnia. Obviously if non-whites for some reason tried to take over Germany by force they would get crushed in hours or days by the professional police and military forces. It's not like non-whites are even united to begin with.
>European states have pretty big government, it relies on everybody being relatively productive, the scum that's coming in just sits on welfare, erodes social trust (less productivity) and costs a fortune in social programmes and extra security.
Sure, I agree. But if the non-white population is < 10%, doesn't seem like it's a huge problem.
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>>139526342
>Obviously if non-whites for some reason tried to take over Germany by force they would get crushed in hours or days by the professional police and military forces.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Not surprised, burger.
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>>139525813
>I dont personally see the connection therefor it doesnt exist
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>>139526621
>these people chant something and these people chant something, so they're the same! Horseshoe theory!
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>>139526599
That's just some chimpout, not a takeover attempt.
Come now, are you trying to argue that Germany's 10% or so non-white population could pose a serious threat to its formal organized force institutions?
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>>139526327
Like the day of the rope? Holocaust denial?
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>>139526857
>some chimpout
Yes. Erdolf also knows this and is banking on it. And please, American, tell me about my own country.
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>>139526857
Yes, those institutions are hellbent on enforcing immigration. And it's not 10% in the relevant age bracket, after this year it'll be closer to 30% and after 2018 it's going to be really fun.
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>>139526055
True - but that's what im trying to do; not to call it "white". It's a jewish play, instead of adopting the more modern etnich groups, people return to old racial profiling. Race is just "old" ethnic groups, because our advanced form of communication and travel will eradicate this in the future (brown babies and all). What they inherit is on our shoulder. Will it be islam, or western values? Sad to see so many choose "whiteness" a term that only make sense in USA.
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>>139499094

I don't counter it. He's completely right.

I fucking hate every side of this retarded culture war. You're all a bunch of fucking faggots. I'd happily gas both SJW's and Alt right cucks if it could end this fucking culture war and make everyone go back to normal. Fuck this shitty decade and fuck activism.
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>>139527467
Damn son, you are deep in the underworld. What pathological answer to contemporary problems.
If you value something, you should damn well fight for it, everyone else does..
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>>139524925
>Kin Selection is real
>even brainless bacteria do it
>It is an innate quality of life
>To think it can Man can somehow think an abstraction out if it is madness and a superstition that does not exist in the real physical world.
Me like where you are going with this anon.
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>>139527290
>>139527308
So why is it that I'm sitting here in America, where there's 40% non-whites, and we're not getting forcibly taken over by military-aged non-white males? When I look around I see blacks chimping out in inner cities, Hispanics picking berries and building houses. No military takeover attempt, though. Just criminality. Hmm...
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>>139523356
Yes they want dead cops, i'm on /pol/ you think I don't know that?

>White shariah NAO!
>BLOOD AND SOIL
>JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US
etc

You don't think there is equivalency with the rhetoric? Don't give me the bullshit about peaceful ethnic cleansing, you know what it'll come down to inevitably.
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>>139527735

I only care about my freedoms and liberty. I've been coming to /pol/ since before it was called /pol/. /new/ was a better board and this place was better when we were all rallied around Ron Paul.

Alt right cucks seem to have embraced fascism and collectivism and other anti freedom anti individualist ideas. I've always hated leftist cucks but right wing cucks are getting to be a big problem now too.

Anyways this culture was is pure fucking cancer on every level. Any and all activists need to be gassed. I don't care what you are promoting, but if you feel the need to be an activist about literally anything just fucking KYS you fucking waste of space.
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Alt right sound like LGBT shit I can almost see how you dress .. theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dSy2DcATYUo
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what is "your people" change over time. Before the modern world, this could take thousands of years. People today will see this change in their lifetime. People in the future will experience it every other year. The advanced technology to communicate and travel will create a more homogeneous civilization in the future. Our job is to pass on the right values for our future generations, not to select people based on the color of their skin. Dont play (( their )) games. anyone can become a jew, that's their end game.
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>>139528380
>You don't think there is equivalency with the rhetoric?

No.

>Don't give me the bullshit about peaceful ethnic cleansing, you know what it'll come down to inevitably.

Peace is dead regardless.
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>>139528107
Violent takeovers might be a bridge too far, but major breakdown of institutions, civil violence and cities looking like Aleppo I can definitely see. Returning to the original point, I doubt we'll have elections when that is going on.

If for some incredibly unlikely reason things stay stable, we will just get outvoted in our own countries. That's also going to be fun.

Also, Hispanics are already cleaning blacks from their neighbourhoods, seen the ethnic makeup of compton lately?
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>>139523181
I'm not black or white nor do I want a race war that'll effectively end the good thing going on in Canada and in the US.

It's a false dichotomy, the illusion of only 2 sides that's being played/peddled out.
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>>139528380
It'll either be your principles or your offspring cursing you, your choice.
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>>139528436
You are an activist the moment you believe in something. People are trying to take away your freedom and liberty - be it right or left wing. Are you gonna fight for it? If you care so much about liberty and freedom, what will you do to preserve it?
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>>139528662
>I'm not black or white

Ah. So you're some East Asian who is replacing the whites in key sectors, of course you want to keep your good thing going, lest you have to return to your shitty (in the case of India literally) home.
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>>139528380
White Shariah is garbage and Anglin a FED, if not a retard

Blood and Soil simply implies that native Europeans have the birth-right to their homelands.

Jews will not replace us? Absolutely appropriate if said Jews write shit like pci related and lead an agenda to, drum roll, replace whites.

Also.../pol/ is alt-right...leaf, please (pun intended)
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>>139504619
maybe he shouldn't steal people's videos and claim them as his own
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>>139528107
Not 40% Islam.

You can also keep your blacks, thanks.
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>>139528579
How is there not equivalency when there is an obvious theme of 'fighting and gassing' the Jew?

Are you new to the National Socialist space?

But this is typical behaviour by a tribalist - deny any wrong doing of your group and try to claim ultimate victimhood and continue putting out polarizing messages. This helps grow the opposite 'communist/BLM' side which in turn will give your side growth and so on and so on.

I just wish some of you people would be honest enough to admit that polarizing people into 2 sides and starting a race war is by design and the end goal of everything you talk about. The communists and race baiting left want this, and so NatSoc types.
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>>139499094
He's not wrong, horseshoe theory is a thing. The alt-right is the CIA anyway. The goyim must rise up against Jewish tyranny. Just a remind er by the way the NAZI's weren't racists Aryan is an occult mythological term
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s
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>>139528971
Why don't you German fag invite your fellow Anglo pagan burger back home ?
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>>139529257
>How is there not equivalency when there is an obvious theme of 'fighting and gassing' the Jew?
Right. And because you can find one common idea that means that they're equivalent and therefore the same. Idiot.

>But this is typical behaviour by a tribalist <snip>
Go fuck yourself, you pretentious little jagoff.

>I just wish some of you people would be honest enough to admit that polarizing people into 2 sides and starting a race war is by design and the end goal of everything you talk about. The communists and race baiting left want this, and so NatSoc types.
It's been going on for a long time. Of course it's obvious, what is also obvious is that the alternative is demic diffusion.
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>>139500426
>the guy in the middle was never seen again
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>>139528662
Democracy is a demography game. The people flowing into our western societies doesn't share our values. The people defending these people abandon our values even faster. Which group defends your values? Alt right or SJW-left? And which one will become the majority if the current state of affairs dont change?
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>>139529686
... because I'm against mass immigration? I take it I hit a nerve?
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>>139528662
Get the fuck out of my country.
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>>139529654
Yes, they are both authoritarian. That's where the similarities end. Which do you prefer - fascism or communism?
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>>139528826

No you are an activist when you go to cringey fucking protests and get into stupid twitter wars with faggots online.

You can believe and advocate something without being a cancerous protesting political activist.

>what will you do to preserve it?

Money makes you the most free. I am saving my money and investing into Bitcoin. Once I get over a certain threshold I will be financially free to do and live how I wish regardless of laws or borders. Laws change, up and go on that plane to somewhere that has laws allowing me to do whatever I wanted to do at that moment.

The only thing I don't understand about globalists is why they are trying to make countries more samey. If you have money and you are white you can flit through so many different countries and choose to live under whatever laws you want and do what you want as you just go to a country that allows it. I mean I understand and support nationalism while being a libertarian. But would never want to tie myself down to one nation. Would never stay and live in a shithole willingly, only temporarily if they had a law that allowed me to do something I wanted to do that I could not do elsewhere. Then it would be a holiday visit. Global diversity of laws and cultures is great, so I don't understand the globalist push to homogenize. Still I wish for complete financial freedom so I don't have to be tied to the fate of any one nation. Who wants to live under the thumb of a ruler or a government?
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>>139529686
Canada was created by conquest at the hands of the superior white man. Maybe it is time for reconquest. Enough of all this cuck talk. Let's fight it out as in the good old days! :^)
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Why I see fucking race traitors everywhere Mommy ?!
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>>139529982
Since he is an Amer*can, he unironically prefers communism.
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>>139530000
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>>139524130
The skeptics ratted on the google memo guy too. He asked teh "skeptics" about whet to do with this gender information, then they contacted HR and corporate management. Some skeptfucks work at google too.
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>>139530062
The only good leaf is a dead leaf.
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>>139529902
No I just realized how greedy we are ..
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>>139529983
I want my rights to be protected by a body of government i can also influence with my vote.
Also, the only reason you get to travel wherever the fuck you want and keep your status, is because of the status of your homeland. If the west lose their power to the east, you will loose that status, and your privilege. Imagine if you had to apply for visa like you were from afghanistan whenever you wanted to travel. That's your future if western civilization doesn't stay on top.
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>>139499094

The left wing has gone so far off the rail that he needs lies to balance things out, otherwise people won't believe him.
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Mammon is real
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>>139530245
Seriously...? I knew they were pieces of shit, but THAT is worse than SJW tier.
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>>139530494

True, that's why I understand and support nationalism, while also being a libertarian.

I also know that the value of my money decreases if the nations economy goes to shit and that's gonna effect me anywhere in the world unless I keep all if it in crypto form.

That's why I want this fucking culture war to end, both alt right and SJW leftist media shitheads to fuck off and for stability to return to the west. The only changes I want in government are more freedoms and relax/get rid of retarded laws.
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>>139530695
They don't have any other goal than to further themselves. They are scams. E-celeb attention whores and e-beggars.
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http://www.unz.com/article/why-do-they-hate-the-south-and-its-symbols/
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>>139530971
But how does it end with both sides stepping down at the exact same moment? One has to win for this to stop. It's simply the logical conclusion. This has been going one for quite some time, and is only gonna accelerate faster. With that in mind, how fucking hard is it to pick the right side? Do you want communist faggot muslims to rule the world, or faggot alt right cucks? It's really not a hard choice if you ask me.
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>>139524269
>I don't even wish those people harm, I'd just like them deported as peaceful as possible
But I wish harm to the white race traitors who are fighting for the other side in the race war that has been waged against white people since ethernity. These race traitors are the ones who opened the gates and doxing any white person daring to bring attention to the gate-opening-scam.
The race traitors are a bigger problem than the racewar enemies and invaders, even after the invasion is complete.

>>139525150
centrism cannot stop anti-white racist policies.

>>139526342
study boslia and lebanon. muzzies start killing, raping, discriminating being violent at 20-30%. At 40% it is genocidal with blood on the streets in individual cases. If you want to stop it, you can only do it with civil war, and killing people. Then leftists label you a murderer.

>>139530000
>Maybe it is time for reconquest.
only possible if the race traitors are all gone. not by their free will, but by force.
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>>139530245
link/proof?
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>>139530971
The reason im a nationalist is that i believe the nation the be the most abstract concept a human can align themselves with. Stuff like "european" and "western" simply has to many variables to be a steady moral hierarchy in which a society can thrive.
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Never go full genocidal race traitor pretty pls with sugar on top
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>>139499094
The alt-right and SJWs advocate for opposite things. I don't know how they could be considered equivalent unless "having strong opinions" is the only metric you use when comparing them.
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>>139531448

No, just 10 years ago things weren't nearly as bad. You could live your life without constantly having stupid identity politics and culture war shit shoved in your face by the media.

I want normies to finally get pissed off enough at the incessant whining of both sides and just fucking end this and return to the status quo of the early-mid 2000's.

I want journalism to go back to being objective reports on the news, and not biased propagandists. Fucking media has caused like 90% or the problems today culturally.
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>>139499094
He's right :^]
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>>139532190
>I want journalism to go back to being objective reports on the news
That never existed. And you just lived in a bubble of illusion. Link related will not stop his agenda, simply because you are annoyed. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-18519395
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>>139532190
Yes that what i'm saying. Things are going down the drain faster than ever. Im just drawing things to its logical conclusion. A choice has to be made. You can't wish this away. Pick the less bad side, it's better than nothing. The probability of this just going away is ZERO
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>>139532190
But what do you do with the invaders already present? Australia for example is importing itself a nice new upper class of Indians and Chinese, do you think with those 2 groups ruling Australia wont change massively?
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>>139532190
It's funny you're the one calling people cucks when people are taking away your freedom bit by bit and all you have to show for it are nostalgic wishes to go back the way it was.
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>>139531614
In the video with jordan peterson, the google guy mentioned it. find it on youtube.
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>>139531772
All of these imports being European, except for that last bunch. Most of them causing social upheaval too.
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>>139532856
Look forward 1666AD
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>Jordan Peterson
Le based just bee urself xD boomer. Clean your room and antifa will lose! You will be the minority in your country and shariah will rule, but your room will be clean! xD Here's why Hitler was even more evil than you think! Based Jews
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>>139500406
I don't think OP is a shill. It's an argument I see a lot, whether it's true or not I think it's a good idea to discuss ways to refute that argument effectively. Nothing wrong with improving our articulation
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