Meme's aside, why didn't Japan or the US forces just

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>>139458323
At this point I think Trump has plenty of justification to protect Japan by sending in the TRB3's and ending this whole thing in a blaze of fire and furry within 15 minutes.

>>139458323
>he fell for US military power meme

>>139458323
It would violate Trump and Xe's agreement. NK has to actually strike first before they both move in to action, otherwise war with China. Do you niggers even read? Or remember longer than fucking 3-4 months?

>>139459031
But they wouldn't be striking North Korea's territory, just a missile that flew into Japanese air space.

>>139458698
>fire and furry
>furry

...was it a Freudian slip or deliberate?

>>139459120
Interrupting a missile test is a strike against NK. Until someone actually dies from a strike on their part, the US can't do anything. Japan is militarily fugged, so that's out too.

>>139458323
>why didn't Japan or the US forces just shoot down the nork missile as soon as it entered Japanese air space
Because the system has only been tested but never used for real AKA "IT DOESN'T WORK"

>>139459288
Violating a nation's territory is a strike against that nation, though.

>>139458323
Because USA has shit anti air systems.
Japan is better off with some Russian anti air

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>>139459031
Trump already told NK to back off the US and allies a month ago.

>>139459207
Deliberate.

Everything Freud and his contemporaries wrote was pure pseudoscience.

>>139459288
>Interrupting a missile test is a strike against NK.
What a load of horseshit. When someone violates a country's airspace they are open game for that country's air defense systems.

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>>139459031
Found the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR43W5ATJ6U

I get the feeling NK fucked up this time.

There need to be massive repercussions against North Korea, short of all-out war. Sinking the submarine from which they launched that missile would be a good idea.

They will keep pressing the line until they finally get kicked in the face. Unless Japan wants to see monthly "not touching you! tee hee! or ammmm IIIII?"-missiles flying overland, the response now has to be severe.

>>139459870
>Unless Japan wants to see monthly "not touching you! tee hee! or ammmm IIIII?"-missiles flying overland
I get the feeling that won't work a second time. The missile will get shoot down.

>>139459488
>Everything Freud and his contemporaries wrote was pure pseudoscience.

yes

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>>139459971
What if it's carrying something and that's exactly what Kim is hoping for?

Because we can't.

No PATRIOTS in Japan.
THAAD is too far away from.
All of our Aegis ABM destroyers in the Seventh Fleet are...being repaired.

>>139459971
Anti-ICBM technology doesn't exist yet (unless the Americans really do have it and really don't want to reveal it). And every time you use it you're teaching the enemy (and other potential enemies who are watching, namely China) about how your system works. The only time it will ever be used is if they're certain it's going to be a hot one.

>>139458323
norks launch a missile that can hit japan
both US and japan do nothing
burgers once again proved being incapable of protecting anything

>>139458323
gib nork gf nao

because the patriot defense system is meme and is not worth shit

US BTFO

>>139458323
They lack the tech

>>139458323
>Japanese/US
US
Japanese are forced collaborators
The question of what is actually honestly in Japanese interest can only be answered with 'nuke america twice over'

>>139458323

The missile interception systems are not flawless. There is a substantial chance of failure. They don't want to beat their chests, say they are going to shoot it down, and then miss.

That is what Kim is looking for. He wants to see how effective our anti missile systems are. They are way over hyped.

>>139459971
Fourth time*

>>139459296
And that's basically been it's official status since the fucking 80s.

To be fair, maybe they're actually doing it and that's why the nork missiles usually fail spectacularly.

>>139460166
Stop polluting the sea!

>>139458323
May the reason is the same as for Saudis who have all the US rocket/air defences and still get rekt by mid-60-s Yemen's Tochka missiles?

>>139458323
From my (admittedly very limited) understanding, would it not be very difficult or almost impossible to intercept a missile like that fast enough to stop it reaching the Japanese mainland?

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>>139458323
habbening bump

>>139458323
Probably they saw the trajectory it was going. No point in wasting shekels on the flying garbage over your head.

>>139458698
do anything against NK and you'll get BTFO just like in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc...

>>139460495
It should be very easy to intercept anything untill it enters the atmosphere or after it returns back. Aegis/THAAD exist to do that. Not so long ago they showed even hitting the training satelite.

>>139460495
ICBM's go at 5km per *second*. There is nothing that can catch up with that, you have to plot their trajectory and fire another rocket at an intercept course to where the ICBM will be when it returns into the atmosphere. And that is assuming they don't change course in the meantime to confuse your targeting, or split up into (an unknown) multiple separate last-stage warheads.

And strangely, that is a good thing. ICBM's being almost unstoppable is what ensures MAD continues.

>>139459564
If that was true your non-country would be in cinders already from Russia-NATO throwdown.

>>139458323
Because if you destroy your enemies, they win

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The only thing Americans are good at is shooting down 200$ worth drones with 3million$ worth missiles.

>>139458323
>America
>Good missile technology

Pick 1

>>139460663
Warheads normally detach in the middle of the trajectory and have their own directions.

>>139460103
It does, but probably not with a high enough success rate yet.

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>>139460709
NK will drop like the iron curtain.

Give this a watch if you're curious as to how easy it is to intercept a missile.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m6MOaECL6FM

>>139458323
imagine them couldn't do it? if they were to fail striking it down. The almighty GMD wouldn't be able to shoot down that shit of missile by norks, that would hurt their reputation so bad.

>>139459774
That's fake new bub. Get yer head on str8

>>139461197
This is about R-36 tier missiles I dont think Kim have any of those.

>>139458323
Cause it's a "don't shoot in case miss and look shit" episode. But the question is how long they will keep it up the next time nukes fly over major cities.

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>>139461398
Trump's words were not fake.

>>139459207
look at the stupid pic he posted ffs use context man you're making us all look bad

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>>139458323

As some guys here already mentioned, that's because it would come out that SM3 and PAC3 are useless.
In case they fail to shoot missiles down, that woud cause panic.

Missile warning (August 29 2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB3NCAr4m0s

Missile warning on TV (August 29 2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBsTTA42YP8

>>139463839
Do you have warning systems in all villages or just in the major towns?

>>139464196
i guess everywhere.. you know with all tsunamis, storms, quakes, gojiras and shit

>>139458323
>Meme's aside, why didn't Japan or the US forces just shoot down the nork missile as soon as it entered Japanese air space?
Pretty hard to shoot down objects flying at 3km/s-5km/s with an irrational flight trajectory.
You can't hit it from behind, so you need to hit it from the front, which means you need to predict the flight pattern, if the rocket uses 1% of it's weight to adjust it's trajectory in flight that opens up a huge potential area where it might land.
Only way to shoot down a rocket like the Hwasong-12 is to fire nuclear rockets with a 10km blast radius into the general flight trajectory. Doing that would cause more damage than just ignoring it.
TL;DR US doesn't have the technology to shoot down ICBMs unless it's willing to use nuclear weapons which would be pointless against NK ICBMs that are aiming for the ocean.
>P.S hate to break it you burgers but if NK wants to they almost certainly have the tech to fly their rockets over mainland USA all the way to the Atlantic ocean

>>139460779
Jokes on you we have no air defense systems required to put this to the test.
Also quit larping as an american, your airspace gets violated by russians just as much if not more and you don't have a better claim of being a "real country" than us.

the drumpf fire and fury comment was just bluffing bravado

drumpf military is a joke,even worse after the trans ban

Well, its obvious that Japan isnt properly guarded yet.

I guess thats about to change.

>>139464196
He >>139464289 is right.
We have it in all places.
But some of the areas had technical difficulty on it and failed to warn today.

>>139464754
>I guess thats about to change.
It is not like the Americans are going to risk a retaliatory attack on their homeland just to defend Japan.
The main error was cucking SKorea and Japan and not allowing them to develop a nuclear program to be able to defend their countries by themselves.

>>139464948

Wait a sec, did the missile actually achieved low orbit? Or is it one of those Scud-B type of crap slingshot rocks that the US used to intercept during the gold war?

>>139464923
how hyped up is you rearmament talking going atm? any chance to rewrite your laws?

>>139465052
Last month NK propaganda said they could hit the US.

>>139464459
Nobody can stop ICBMs from the late 60s without hydrogen bombs.
Ideally you'd want to hit the rendezvous point from behind because you can adjust for flight pattern changes more easily. but you'd need 7-8km/s to hit it from behind, there are no materials in the world that would survive that. Also there are no rocket engines with a low enough ISP to reach that speed quick enough.
So the only option left is hitting it from the front which is almost as hard because internal guidance systems and dummy targets means it's harder than finding a needle in a haystack, also you only have ~1minute time to find the needle.

>>139465155

Well, yeah. Propaganda works that way. They also say Kim has super powers and that his father was born in a magical mountain from divine intervention.

>not even trolling

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>>139464923
Man, must be hard to have such system functioning all over Japan.
I heard your vending machines give free water during earthquakes and have displays for messages from the government.
Amazing organization.

>>139465317
>Propaganda works that way.
Yeah but nobody in the West said it was bullshit. At most the analysts said NK couldn't shrink the nuke already, but in a couple of years it would be possible for them to achieve that.

>>139465155
They almost certainly can. Hwasong-14 is a liquid fuel rocket. All they need to do is make the rocket ~40% bigger and they have a rocket capable of orbiting the earth.
When they got off of solid fuel rockets and started using liquid fuel they got that ability.

>>139459207
Furry?

>>139465317
Rocket technology doesn't work like magic or propaganda. All they need to do to increase the range is build a larger fuel tank. Building the fuel tank is the easiest part. hard part is making the engines and materials to survive high velocity flights.

>>139465517
They already can
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/north-korea-now-making-missile-ready-nuclear-weapons-us-analysts-say/2017/08/08/e14b882a-7b6b-11e7-9d08-b79f191668ed_story.html?utm_term=.17226a75134c

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>>139465602
just add more boosters.

it werkz, trust me.

>>139465956
Alternatively
https://unvis.it/washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/north-korea-now-making-missile-ready-nuclear-weapons-us-analysts-say/2017/08/08/e14b882a-7b6b-11e7-9d08-b79f191668ed_story.html?utm_term=.17226a75134c

Any nips take pictures of the missile overhead? If so please share.

Otherwise its /fakenews/

>>139458323
>why didn't Japan or the US forces just shoot down the nork missile
Casus Belli

>>139458698
>mentioning the tr-3b
>my tinfoil hat nigga

that thing doesnt exist

>>139458323
Because the US still has to tread carefully diplomatically when it comes to Korea. It should have been Japan who shot down the missiles, not the US.

On top of that, no doubt US military analysts probably were able to predict the missiles trajectory before it re-entered the atmosphere and knew it was gonna drop into the sea.

Furthermore China is rapidly running out of reasons to keep propping up the North Koreans and this missile launch will just keep pushing China away. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this was the final straw and they finally realized that the Norks can't be allowed to stay on this nuclear trajectory.

>>139465965
>just add more boosters.
Solid fuel rockets suck dick.
And yes making the fuel tank larger makes it easier to shoot it down during launch because of the TWR.

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>>139458323
Guys!

THAAD and Aegis has its limitations. THAAD system can only intercept missiles in 200 km range and 150 km altitude, and Aegis has a slightly longer altitude and range. Please see: http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-northkorea-missiles-maps-idUKKCN1AW1AW

You can't just "shoot it down". You need the missile to actually descend towards a place with a missile defense system.

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>>139466142
I've seen a lot of fake videos in my day, Anon.

Those YouTube videos that keep disappearing aren't fake.

>>139465787

The accelerometers and gyroscopes also count. Im sure they also tested its accuracy. Probably the most vital part.

>>139465148
Guess PM Abe is trying to take this opportunity.
But it's fucking hard to rewrite.
It requires the affirmative votes of 2/3 or more of both houses, and more than half at referendum.

>>139466639

..or perhaps not (nukes allow a high margin of error lol)

>>139466371
'muricans exploded one brazilian satellite-lifter just before launch, with sonic cannons mounted on a destroyer conveniently positioned at the shores of the launch site.

#TrueFactImNotEvenLieing

>>139466722
soon US will beg it to you.. you know with China growing larger and shit.. things will get easier

>>139466258

You honestly believe that the Chinese aren't using the North Koreans to develop these techs for the Chinese mainland? China gets tech, saves face from the rest of the world for not developing the tech and earning the world's ire, and probably even Gains face when it comes down hard on the NK's soon.

I firmly believe the Chinese are pulling the strings for ICBMS and nukes in North Korea, or at least collaborating with them in order to get it when shit will, inevitably, hit the fan.

>>139466926
Sure if the US knows where every launch site is they can easily take out North Korean rockets on launch. But they can't take out a North Korean rocket that is flying for more than 2minutes.
Sound weapons need to be relatively close to the target to work, thought the Brazilian rocket was just crap and failed because of that, never heard that a sound weapon was used against it.
Probably easier to take out rockets with railguns or lasers than with soundweapons if you are targeting launch sites.

>>139461058
>imblygn best corea is that advanced yet

>>139458323
They didn't shoot it down because they can't shoot missiles down. Anti-missile countermeasures are a meme. NK just proved the US are just as vulnerable to ICBMs as anyone else.

>>139467598

It only takes one of their mobile launch trucks to not appear on the surveillance satellite. Thank god they most likely cant fire them from submarines (unlike their claims).

>>139460989
You might be fucking retarded, pastanigger. That missile is an old model of patriot missile, it isn't getting any younger, and there are entirely new missiles much better for intercepting TBMs than it waiting in the wings such as the PAC-3. Expending an old missile to keep crews ready and fine tune software is never a bad idea.

The world is filled with cancer. I think former axis powers (germany and Japan) should be allowed to rearm themselves.

Theres only to gain from this now (germany balances Russia and Japan NK and China). Besides, their industrial infrastructure and numbers are quite respectable.

>>139458323
Because it was an American missile.

Screencap this post.

>>139458323
No one can actually shoot down missiles. Its really fucking difficult. Like, 9 out of 10 attempts fail.

>>139459439
Just like Iraq's Russian air defense.

>>139465287
How do you know this nigger?

>>139468057
They can probably fire from submarines, SLBM launches are actually technically easier than land based launches, launching from water stabilizes the launch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Dragon_(rocket)
>>139469327
Rocket enthusiast. I love the concept of strapping people onto a bomb and then setting off the bomb in a controlled explosion to catapult people into outer space, every rocket enthusiast knows about ICBMs, same technology different goal, slightly less interesting, suborbital flights won't get you to mars.

>>139469327
Who gave you missile tech after WWII?

>>139460103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBMU6l6GsdM

>>139458323
There was no missiles. False flag. Rothchilds want NK central bank control, they are the ones fuelling this war

>>139471487
>Rothchilds want NK central bank control

goddamn imagine being this retarded

>>139471487
>Rothchilds want NK central bank control
How fucking stupid are you?

>>139471611
>>139471716

Shilling this "war" against NK so hard

>>139459031
But how do the know if the missile is a demo or a nuke before it hits something? Shooting down a missile over your own airspace can be taken as provocation.

Either someone decided to let Japan be nuked to create valid casus belli to kill Nork or we're unable to protect Japan from a surprise attack.