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Is the militarizing of the police worth it to prevent Antifa

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Is the militarizing of the police worth it to prevent Antifa?

Do you think this is an over stepping of government power?

http://archive.is/SgaGd

http://www.strawpoll.me/13807933
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>>139357079
release the kraken
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>antifa beats the shit out of innocents for thinking diffrently
>IS IT WORTH IT TO MILITARIZE THE POLICE?
>IS THIS OVERSTEPPING?
>WE DIDNT DO ANYTHING DONT KILL US
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Had a grin on my face as soon as I finished reading the headline in the pic.
Hope it's true.
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>>139357079
Trump knows the civil war is brewing and that he can't deploy the regular military on US soil.
Turning the Police into the Military is the next best thing
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>>139357079

>communists terrorists parading through the street

We wanted liberty, but you wouldn't let us have it.
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>>139357079
>Militarized police
>A bad thing
Pick one
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>>139357079
>giving milsurp to the cops instead of the civilian market
Fuck you Trump, we already have enough police state shit
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>>139357079
Wait do Americans really have a problem with police getting better gear? Can anyone explain why or am I getting baited?
Is it for the cost?
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>>139357079
Nooooooooo
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No more militarized death toys for cops. That is not what is wrong. What is wrong is orders preventing poice from breaking up Antifa Cliques and gatherings so liberal boss's are the problem and liberal politicians and liberals seem to have put on a badge and un to push diversity in to the police ranks.
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>>139358610
It's a shitty way for the Federal Government to bypas the Posse Comitatus Act by turning the police into the military
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If this is true, I might become a cop just so I can beat some antifas. These fags are the hippies of our generation.
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>>139357079
No, it's not, but
>Implying this wasn't the goal of those funding antifa.
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>>139358902
Take your local police exam like the rest of us.
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>>139358844
>The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States.
So the US govt can't use the army for law enforcement duty? It seems like a waste of potential resources.
What if you have a national emergency (Hurricanes, flooding, heartquake, etc.)? Can't the federal government send in the army to help and mantain order?
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>>139358610
The police don't need a lot of the equipment the military uses even if the military uses that equipment in a peacekeeping or police roll. The police doesn't need a IED resistant bullet resistant MRAP. The US police forces are not encountering criminals with RPGs, HMGs, land mines, hand grenades. The radio equipment is functional but overkill; the police don't need multi frequency hopping encrypted radios. They also do not need any weapons at all. The police forces already have access to quality rifles and pistols.

What the police do need are body cams and laws that require their operation and limit checks if too many 'malfunctions' happen and events are not recorded or video is 'lost'. The need helicopters with low light and thermal vision cameras. They might need an EOD robot.
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>>139357079

The police have always backed antifa, they are literal (((their))) goys
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>>139357079
Not worth it. All that needs to happen is actual policing, no need for all this equipment. Having a fucking Humvee or whatever means nothing if you can't be bothered to actually use it. This is just an antagonising move. Can't really say I'm surprised though, finding groups like Antifa happened with the hope of full police militarisation.
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>>139359672
>The US police forces are not encountering criminals with RPGs, HMGs, land mines, hand grenades.

not yet
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>>139359772
>funding*
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>>139358443
This. I would normally never want police militarization, because I think that can lead to a bad path, however when literal terrorists are running around the streets destroying things across the country, we have to use extreme measures to ensure this type of behavior can be dealt with, hopefully without people dying.
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>>139359772
A lot of lib Mayors hardly equip their police. Which is why sometimes the higher ups tell cops not to engage.
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>>139357079
You wanna know why no one in Antifa carries a gun?
They never got passed the psyche evaluations.
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>>139359672
>The police doesn't need a IED resistant bullet resistant MRAP
bullet resistant vehicles are used (in small quantity of course) by most police forces in the world. I imagine they would be useful in things like bank robberies. I agree that the radio stuff is probably useless to them.
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>>139359990
You would think they would just get arms from the black market.
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>>139359886
If the higher ups can tell the cops not to engage (overriding the mayor's orders) then he can also equip then (overriding the mayor's orders). That's just a bullshit excuse.
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>>139357079
Trump can be a misguided buffoon. He trusts the police and military too much.
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They need to just declare these marxist fucks a terrorist organization already.
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>>139358902
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>>139360092
Ah so the chief can magically make money appear. Gotcha
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>>139359990
>psyche evaluations
I never had to take one of those when buying a gun, just a background check, what shithole state do you live in?
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>>139357079
That militarized police will be eventually used against you.
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>police militarized
>niggers die left and right
>niggers either behave, leave the country, or is exterminated
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>>139357079
YAWN. Arpaio did that before it was cool
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i support the phoenix model.
>tell them to dispurse
>gas them
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>>139359360
>What if you have a national emergency (Hurricanes, flooding, heartquake, etc.)? Can't the federal government send in the army to help and mantain order?

President would have to declare Martial Law on the effected area, I believe. Rare, but it happens, though normally the Guard is enough.
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>>139359360
The national guard it's exempt. Thats why the whole "skirting posse comitus" argument is shit. We can, and have deployed soldiers to quell riots and civil unrest.
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>"military" gear ban
Police have traditionally kept up with the military in terms of tech
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this doesn't look good, and this looks like it was the ACTUAL goal of the shadow forces controlling antifa
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>>139360158
Never said that. You said lib Mayors don't equip their police, well then their superior can order them to equip their police before they've spent all their money on dildos and rainbow flags.
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>>139360280
>though normally the Guard is enough.
National guard is not part of the army?
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>>139360227
Once they have the capabilities they will go for the alt right rallies and beat the shit out of you.

Mark my words.
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>>139358522
Checked, and money talks. Military surplus would definitely be better in the hands of patriotic citizens.
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well, authoritarian faggots?
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>>139360215
NO! That doesn't matter because it looks cool and fuck Antifa AMIRITE?
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>>139360372
Nope. Not how it works.
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>>139357079
Fucking do it already goddamnit!!!!
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>>139360295
I see thank you
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is antifa seeking sanctuary here? are we antifas older, bigger, brother?
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>>139360411
>mfw I've never committed a crime in my life
>mfw I never got into a fight in my life
>mfw I never been to a rally for anything
>mfw all I want is people to be safe and the only way for that to happen is no more niggers
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>>139360467
Ah okay. So the superior can fill a place with military vehicles but can't tell the Mayor to do his fucking job. No wonder your police are shite in places with lib Mayors.
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>>139360394

No. Each state maintains its own Guard, and while they can be Federalized for overseas service with the regular army, but it is not part of the U.S. Military proper.
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>>139358060
>Good goyim give your police heavier military grade equipment
>The police will only fight antifa they would never be used to suppress the rights of white people
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>>139360425
As crime uses more dangerous tactics, the police must be one step head of the game. Cops aren't your friend. They are there to stop crime, how they look or what arms they use to stop it is irrelevant .
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>>139360754
Do you retards really think that everything is the Jew's fault?
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>>139360034
>bullet resistant vehicles are used (in small quantity of course) by most police forces in the world. I imagine they would be useful in things like bank robberies.

They are almost never used in the US. Speed and agility are generally more important to police in the US. Bank robberies are almost always just people robbing liquor stores that picked a bank to rob instead. Rather than heavy armed assaults on banks. The NH Bank robbery was seemingly a once in the history type robberies.

When the police forces started using military equipment they murdered almost 100 people in Waco because the police felt like they needed to act like a military, rather than good local police.

The primary application of military equipment will be to conduct no knock raids on citizens, attacking homes in the middle of the night in 'fear' that criminals might get away. Throwing incendiary grenades at toddlers, shooting family pets, holding 8 year olds at rifle point all while they are searching the wrong address because getting the location correct is way less important to police than getting to play fake soldier.
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>>139360358
Jews jewing their own god, fucking criminals.
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>>139357079
This will work for the states that are to the right, but won't this give power to the states that are lefties as well? I don't want the cops to be working with Antifa and suffer the Trump supporters.
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>>139357079
Desperate times desperate measures
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>>139358727
Exactly. Not militarizing them is to prevent oppression of the people. But when the people are the ones agitating in a civil conflict or treasonous way, the justification for not militarizing the police is not so present.
If the alt right were running around like Antifa are, any administration would be justified in militarizing the police against them as well. The difference is the far right knows better than to organize and commit acts of treason, and Antifa don't.
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>>139359360
Not the Army, only national guard. Only time they can use the army is in event of an emergency and martial law has been declared, I believe.
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>>139357079
yes. So much for minimal gov interference :P Trump is basically a commie.
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Fuck that then what when the shtf and we have civil war. Marshall law upheld by police that are just as capable as the military, but right in our backyards.

No.
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>>139360358
Big joe warned them. They didn't listen.
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>>139357079
>can't use NG as peace force on US soil
>militarize police force
>now have legal military policing citizenry


Also look at the language we us

>law enforcement
Law enforcement is any system by which some members of society act in an organized manner to enforce the law by discovering, deterring, rehabilitating, or punishing people who violate the rules and norms governing that society.
Not

>police
to make clean and put in order
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>>139357079
it will do little in a biological attack. which will be the next "big" attack. they could maybe clean the ghettos up with the gear in the mean time.
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>>139360411
Everibody who know his shit know shit.
1. everibody who has opinions not alligned to the agenda is a terrorist
2. free detentions
3 .???????
4. Proffit!!!
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>>139360674
No, neither of those things can happen without approval from the mayor. You don't seem to get the whole "civilian leadership controlling military and para-military forces" concept in the US. The mayor and city legislature approve the budget for the police. The mayor controls how and when the police are deployed. The chief is in a leadership role for the day-to-day operations.
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>>139358522
They'll eventually rig an election to get one of their own in power and use this to fight muh nazis. Trump is serving the Jewish agenda. If you guys aren't willing to stand up then fuck all of you.
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Not far enough. Give them drones.
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>>139360215
There's not a single piece of military gear on this picture, dumbass.
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>>139360839
>Rather than good local police.
Well they weren't. They were the federal government. ATF and FBI.
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>>139360631
Nothing happens until it happens and the police isn't there to help you, no one needs all that equipment to stop petty crimes, they need that equipment to fight groups of people protesting, today it's the nazis, but one day it will be your people.
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>>139360215
>>139360427

> fuck solving the problems of the day, what about the problems of the future?
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>>139360926
He should be /yourguy/ then.
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>>139357079
>Is the militarizing of the police worth it to prevent Antifa?

Antifa is a terrorist organization. The alternative to "militarizing" the police is to either use the National Guard as police or establish a gendarmerie.

Democrats were all for militarizing the police during the Bush Administration and early Obama Administration. Funny how they suddenly changed their mind when they started aiding and abetting domestic terrorists.
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>>139360819
How can you deny the evidence that the US will fall soon and that we'll all be under the boots of psychopaths?
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>>139360819
>At The Jew, we don’t make a lot of the problems you have, we make a lot of the problems you have worse.
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Militarization of police and making them more hostile towards the people they serve is always been the goal of the NWO billionaires (Soros etc) who are funding all these fucking groups. They wants the police to stop viewing themselves as part of the community and more as occupiers in hostile territory, keeping the community contained. Can't run a corrupt ZOG dictatorship unless you have the guys with the guns keeping the boot on the goy's neck.

BLM did more to advance the police state than those stupid fucking niggers did to address anything. They conveniently only championed criminal niggers and conveniently didn't give a fuck when it was any other race subject to PAWLEES BROOTALITEE
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>>139360425
The first two cops should have rifles and pistols too
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>>139361042
Well I reckon that system needs changing, because it's awfully shite.
>mayors declare sanctuary city and tell pres to fuck off
>mayors spend money on rainbow flags instead of policing
Not a great system I reckon.
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>>139358401
Keep telling yourself that.
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>>139361215
I literally don't leave my house, dummy.
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>>139361127
I do live in Kotor but am not that woman for sure ;)

I can only flirt with guys online, irl shy and goofy af
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>>139360839
>When the police forces started using military equipment they murdered almost 100 people in Waco because the police felt like they needed to act like a military, rather than good local police.

Because they had to cover up the child trafficing you mean. Also, those weren't local popo, those were 3 letter agencies.
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>>139361338
Soros had his fingers in Yugoslavia, which somewhat resembled modern US with all the different demographic regions. I wonder if we'll see a Yugoslavia 2.0.
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>>139361215
That riot gear is all plastic stuff that isn't used by the military though
Save for the what looks like IIa kevlar vests anyway, but those have been in police use since their inception as well
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>>139359360
>>139360280
>>139360925
The US Military can be deployed for domestic police actions during war time as well.

Generally, if the Federal government is forbidden to do it, it's already been ruled as legal by the Courts during war time. How do you think FDR got away with putting so many American citizens in concentration camps? SCOTUS even agreed with his bullshit "enemy blood" theory at the time.
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>>139357079
Does that mean he's unleashing drones for cops for more than surveillance?
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>>139361359

hurf durf

who gives a fuck the police already have military equipment despite the ban
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OMG they have armored trucks? They're going to shoot SO MANY innocent black people with those trucks!
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>>139359716
Right. The cops love antifa.
https://youtu.be/f8EufiFswgk
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>>139360819
They're just as dumb as niggers who think everything is the white man's fault. They see "ooo many jews in power, that must mean they wanna keep the white man down!" Yet in the meantime jews just happen to be smarter on average and end up being more successful. It's really not rocket science. There are more white CEO's than blacks because whites are smarter. There are more Jewish CEO's cause Jews are smarter.
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>>139360114

He comes from a different time
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>>139360425
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>>139361356
It's basically the same system in bong land. Where do you think we got the idea?
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>>139358060
Scuffles at these meetings are consensual, and anyone scuffling specifically showed up to do that. No one is "beating the shit" out of anyone. The police were militarized long before this, and "Antifa" is not some hostile foreign military force. No one needs a military to stop some street scuffles. That was a stupid scapegoat for you to use.

>>139358727
>push diversity in to the police ranks.
Good. "Police" is not to be klanfags haven.
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this shit will be used on patriots. the chief of police and mayors are jew freemasons.

all the generals in the civil war were jew freemasons, it was goy killing goy on the ground.

Lee, Pike and Meade all friends and jew masons.
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>>139361238
You have social problems caused by social issues, beaten people senseless won't fix them.

>>139361376
Then your fellow NEETs are already being beaten up.

>>139361497
The most damaging riot gear it's the offensive ones, water cannons, tear gas, pepper chemical, rubber bullets, sound crowd dispersers, etc...
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>>139357079
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>>139362012
None of what you've posted is military gear. Police already have basic riot gear, and have for the last half century.
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>>139361892
if the Don declares martial law he'll have direct control over the police
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This was the plan the whole time, to force his hand into this and other anti-liberty measures so when they're back in power it can be used against us
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>>139358443
This sums up what is happening pretty well.

Antifa has no idea what "reactionary" means.
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>>139362105
here you go then
wannabe operators
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Police mitarization isn't THAT bad. We have the Guardia Civil that they are pretty much an army acting like a police force and they always did great. I'm sure this will benefit the US.
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>Antifa show up at trump rally and start attacking people
>police ignore antifa and let them continue every time
>giving the police better gear will help?
how?
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>>139362105
You can make a lot of damage with basic riot gear, imagine what it can be done with military grade equipment.
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>>139357079
Militarization of police is an inevitability of a multicultural society. There's a reason the Andy Griffin Show took place in Mayberry and not some ghetto in Chimpcongo.
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worth it even without antifa
still have BLM and other leftist agitators
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>>139361004
Giving regular police forces military grade equipment does not make them a gendarmerie. It makes them regular police with military grade equipment.
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>>139362289
Only in places with commie mayors
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>>139360425
>implying cops in the UK have progressed beyond the first guy
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>>139357079
Worth it for the lulz
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>>139357079
I'm pursuing Law Enforcement as a career, and I'm on the fence about police militarization.
I think the big cities could absolutely use it, but when it comes to small towns? AR-15s, body armor, tear gas, and an armored vehicle or two should suffice.
A city of <10,000 buying its officers Humvees with mounted guns is just silly, though, and it comes to bite us in the ass when leftist politicians use the police to suppress right-wingers.
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>>139361868
>the victims asked for it
>so domestic terrorism should be allowed!

Typical Progressive terrorist sympathizer. Some day you will regret ever having believed what you believe now.
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>>139358443
they they had to do was not tread
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>>139362290
>Military grade

What's that? Black and steel?
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>We will have Robocop like police departments in our lifetimes.
Dead or Alive, leftist scum. Your move.
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None of you faggots seem to know why the US actually does this. You know all the fuck ton if old military equipment we have that would otherwise be wasted? The police can use that equipment and spend less of your tax dollars or purchase much more expensive police specific equipment that is barely different anyway
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>>139362290
>Military grade equipment
Like? They're not getting belt fed machine guns or M203s. It's armored vehicles (that are used for SWAT) and maybe the odd surplus M4 or M16 to issue out as a patrol rifle. I guarantee no one else in this thread even knows what depts use the 1033 program for.
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>>139357079
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7hsVa18yfA
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>>139362989
>they won't come for me
oh boy, how blinded you are

speak against the stablishment (banks, finances,military, jews in general) and see what happens
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>>139362838
No police Dept is buying mounted guns for anything. That would be a huge pile of paperwork to aquire (they have to follow the NFA and then some).
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should i become a police officer?
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>>139357079
No, because guess who this militarised police is going to be used on... Also our only chances for racial survival is if the modern (((democratic))) states collapse and a civil war commences (preferably as soon as possible looking at demographics). Maybe all the MAGApede faggots want to cheer anything this god does but this will eventually end up in a draconian multiracial police state where people are forced to race mix by law. Get it trought your head the people who rule these (((democracies))) are not your friends and the last thing you should be doing is handing them more power over your life! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQVIeTLqgOw&t=23s
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>>139358610
Obongo decided that having police with proper equipment "alienates" niggers in Ferguson, and that it makes them feel "unsafe," so Obongo decided police can't have a ton of stuff.
Trump is reversing that.
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>>139362989
>tfw I wanted Dredd
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>>139363055
I bet they are gonna love the rubber bullets in the next tiki torch march.
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>>139358060
We need right wing paramilitaries to crush the commie scum, not the (((federal government)))
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>>139363381
I wish we would get a dress sequel. Was aesthetic as fuck
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RIGHT WING MILITARIZED POLICE PLEASE
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>>139357079
just gonna be used against right wingers next presidency
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>>139362850
Both quotes are false, and neither came from me. The only thing (((you))) are is a typical gay (((shill))) posting bullshit.
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>>139357079
They sure as fuck don't want civs dealing with it.
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>>139357079
>bait violent groups into clashing over fuckwhat
>blow it up in media
>everyone has an enemy now
>right thinks police needs to stock up to fight left
>left thinks police needs to stock up to fight right
>/pol/ falls for it, like usual
Why are you played so easily?
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>>139363553
Sadly
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>>139363553
there's not going to be another election
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>>139363553
It's going to be used against the right wing now.
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>>139363633
The left want police disarmed
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>>139359672
Encrypted radio is most useful stuff on list. What of police is cheeking personal details and someone would pick it up.
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>>139363633
>Acting so retarded that police have to stop you.

you aren't right if you act like this commie.
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>>139363716
Only when they act against them. They scream for government force pretty quickly.
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>>139363176
Projecting much?
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>>139363716
Because they're retarded and honestly believe their own bullshit that they are fighters against the establishment. The police is the only thing shielding antifag scum from being run over
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>>139363633
I want to believe they are shills and that /pol/ isn't that retarded.

>>139363176
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>>139364019
Never underestimate the gullibility of people just because they agree with your position.
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The next antifa riot is going to be a blast
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>>139360839
all of the the things you listed are things the atf/dea already does. the problem is not police, its these corrupt cancers on the justice system
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>>139364111 (checked)
Like I said, "I want to believe"
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>>139361004
You can use national guard as peace for under the authority of the governor of the state.

Generally the NG would supplement local police and let the locals do the arresting though.

t. emergency management officer in the ANG
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>>139362838
>and it comes to bite us in the ass when leftist politicians use the police to suppress right-wingers.
Something to remember about anything that is normalized like military force used on citizens. When the pendulum invariably swings back, and it will, the other side will have the same tools to use against you.
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>>139364111
They were happy fighting among themselves, but once the police gets into it, they will just beat the crap of everyone involved and there goes the peaceful strategies.
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>>139363449
Nigger they already have rubber bullets and have had them for decades. The only thing that the police can use that is military is that giant microwave dish used for frying protesters.
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>>139360215
This is America you nigger. I have a 12 gauge, 9mm, AR-15 And long range bolt action rifles. No cop will ever try and go against it's people it's suicide.
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>>139364408
and sonic canons, if I recall correct
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>>139364125
>Right side goes underground after Cville
>Antifa keeps showing up to protest nazis but there's nobody there except them
>start eating eachother
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>>139360215
Not unless whatever dem president in 2024 bans it again
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>>139364408
There's many ways to use the rubber bullets, some just hurt like hell and the others are lethal.
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I know my county has an MRAP that's for dangerous floods or some shit.
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>>139363466
This
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>>139362433
>Militarization of police is an inevitability of a multicultural society
That's funny, considering there are militarized police in countries that are homogeneous and have homogeneous cultures.

It's almost like you're full of shit.
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>>139360394
>>139360725

They are considered part of the army as far as pay, benefits, regulations, training (for example, they attend the same basic training as well as all other courses), but the top of their chain of command is the state governor as their commander in chief, not the president. To avoid problems with enforcing regulations on Guardsmen when they are on state orders instead of federal orders, many states of their own state-level military laws, similar to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

This is what makes them different from the reserves; also, while reserve units are primarily support units, the National Guard is structured as a 'parallel' force, with the same type of units and equipment as active units, to include infantry, tanks, aviation, and special forces.
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>>139359772
This. Police stood down like cowards. AGAIN.
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This is because of Chicago isn't it?
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>>139359851

I hope after Trump's 8 years are done, the lifting of the ban is still in effect, and LEFTIST president takes power and uses the militirized police to crush right-wing protestors.

Tell me right wingers, why do you simultaneously support the second amendment (for fighting a tyrannical government) while giving the same potential tyrannical government a blank check in terms of defense and ability to fucking crush you?

Doesn't the latter policy make the former null? You're just making it harder for any future revolution to be successful.
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>>139364812
Brave police men radicalize people towards the left.
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>>139361615

The ban was any new sale/donation of military gear from the DOD to police. Obviously tons of it had already been given out.

The military doesn't want its old-ass humvees and rollover-prone maxpro MRAPS, so dumping it on law enforcement is an obvious choice vs. destroying it.
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>>139357079
well I mean it's just a retarded waste of money to throw away all that military surplus shit instead of giving it to the police
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>>139362707
U FUKIN WOT?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06J-W8IAQfE
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>>139365209
Meanwhile your cops get stabbed to death by terrorists because they were unarmed
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>>139357079
Your edging closer to civil war. Trump knows what's up. Globalist are planing on crashing America(with no survivors)
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>>139364749
Hopefully this will lead people opposing it to discovering how concerning the previous NDAAs were in terms of martial law capabilities, and how the POTUS had had the ability to declare martial law with a few strokes of a pen for decades.

>>139364749
Goddamn, do I sure miss shooting my 240.
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>>139365196
Bet your cops are 40% black and hispanic too.
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>>139365090
Crush the people who actually pay taxes? Hmmmmm...
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>>139365479
First one was meant to reply to OP
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>>139357079
It really isn't

We're getting tricked

>>139360831

>>139360831

>>139360831
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>>139357079
As long as I get high quality video of our boys in blue kicking the everloving shit out of Antifa then I'm fine with it.
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>>139360754
>Police have had funding and equipment cut in recent years
>Social unrest at an all-time high

really makes me think
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>>139361712
I use Jews as a codeword. I like meming oy vey. I think its funny. (My moms a Jew)
I think a lot more people are on my page
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>yfw militarized police kick down a /pol/friend's door to arrest him for pirated anime and he thinks back to the time he voted for exactly this while thinking that it would never be used against him and suddenly his entire family is flashbanged and hit with an LRAD because his 89 year old grandmother stood up while looking sort of brown
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>>139365715
I'd say that correlation is not causation, but even correlating police funding with social cohesion is sketchy at best, if not completely ridiculous.
>just give the police more funds and everyone will start hugging each other
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>>139357079
I don't care if cops get military stuff. I think most military stuff should be available for the use of the population at large.

I don't think that's an effective or cost-effective way to deal with a problem like antifa, however, and that's a dumb way to justify it.
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>>139358443
no step pls
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>>139365975
Just yesterday I've seen a video on youtube about a SWAT raid in a family home because someone found "marijuana stems and seeds" in their trash, which turned out to be tea.
Probably extremely rare, but still pretty funny.
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>>139357079
I think the article from The Daily Caller explain it pretty well. Of course libtards aren't going to like this decision.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/28/trump-to-reinstate-transfer-of-military-equipment-to-police/
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>>139357079
What does the "militarization of the police" (The police having gear to better do their jobs) mean to a law-abiding citizen?
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>>139365523
Where you trying to make a point of some sort, shill?
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>>139357079
Fuck it. Police are on the conservative side and lefty cunts are getting out of hand by going full Mao
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>>139366302
Increased climate and social acceptance of cops acting like powertripping assholes to law-abiding citizens. Kind of like if you ever fly in to a US airport even as a US citizen you feel intense hatred and disgust about the TSA.
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>>139357079
>thinks that the police tanks are to stop antifa and not to essentially make the second amendment functionally useless

whew lad
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>>139366272
How did the militarization of your cops worked?

It's Brazil a peaceful utopia already?
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>>139365532
>Muh taxes

If you're so SURE the government will not come for you, why do you need the second amendment?

>I need the second amendment because I need to protect myself from a tyrannical government, but I'm sure a tyrannical government will not come for me.
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>>139365723
>my mom's a Jew

what do you think that makes you?
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Very bad idea, jew freemason run every major city.
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>>139366497
Yep, once armed protestors appeared the police knew that in order to take the guns from them they were going to need more firepower.

Another of Trump's gifts to the alt right.
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>>139359851
Isn't that a "sacrificing freedom for security" thing?
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>>139357079
The whole reason Obama de-militarized them in the first place is he realized they weren't on his side.
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>>139365523
are you trying to prove a point by posting police in riot gear? I don't understand man
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>>139366651
Adopted
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/UMxq1U4ZR0Op/
skip to 8:00
This will be more effective as long as the next rally is in a state with anti mask laws. Anybody know where the next gathering will be? We should already be able to get them shut down the next time in Berkley if someone gets hurt. (lawsuit against the city for not enforcing)
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>>139366947
This are just my cops doing what they usually do.

My point it's that the police it's not on your side if you are a group larger than five and are visible demanding something that the state don't want you to have.
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>>139357079
The police protect antifa.
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>>139366474
>cops acting like powertripping assholes to law-abiding citizens
Does this actually happen on a large scale, or is it just manlets having their feelings hurt when dealing with authority?

I mean, I understand the feeling, every time I deal with cops in Finland, I feel like they are "arrogant", but that is simply because I know they have authority over me, not necessarily because of how they act.

Could it be that manlets just see authority as the "bigger man" they've envied their whole lives, and can't act like normal human being?
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>>139363097
HOOOOOOOOK TUUUUUUUUUUUUBE
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>>139360754
>Nazi flag
>against a militarized police force
???
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>>139367348
Everybody knows some abusive asshole cops, but most people don't even go to these LARPing contests or get subjected to the riot treatment.

However, there is a clear history of riot response style tactics being unfairly used on peaceful anti-war demonstrations, G20 assemblies, or whatever else. It's a difficult balance for both sides. Most normal people don't want to see antifa in the streets any more than they want to see militarized police goons stomping around, so the best response is to try to solve the problem without needing to see either one of them.
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>>139367348
Finland it's extremely peaceful compared to the US.

>>139367520
They fought the allies, don't they?
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>>139357079
I don't see why they need a fucking MRAP to lock up a bunch of limp-wristed faggots and addled heroin addicts.
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>>139358443
THIS
NO PEACE WITH COMMUNISTS
NO PEACE, JUST WAR
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>>139367929
its almost as if the police know more about what they actually deal with than some guy on the internet.

I dont like Antifa, but they have dominated enough right wingers in fights to prove they aren't all weak faggots. Underestimating your opponents is a quick way to lose. Not to mention they have a proxy army of nigger hordes at their disposal.

This is one of those things, its fine for now but what will it mean when democrats get into power and now control the overly militarized police.
Im guessing it will look like Europe where police start arresting us for online hate speech wearing swat gear.
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This isnt going to be used on antifa. It's gonna be used on the Nazis meanwhile the antifa will aid the police.

The system knows there's about to be wide spread chaos. Fuck the police
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>>139357079
The way to stop antifa is to not prosecute people who beat the shit out of them.
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>>139361712
No matter what you control for Jews are vastly over represented. Extreme nepotism is the only explanation. Which is what whites are accused of and legislated against even though nearly all whites instinctively believe in and support and love out the ideals of meritocracy.
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>>139357079
the whole >muh malatarized pawlees thing was a jewish trick pushed by kikes to disarm police to make kike shit like BLM or antifa work with more impunity and create more chaos
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>>139368348
under Trump it will be used more on gangs/Cartels and by extension "leftists"
The problem is, Trump isn't going to be in office forever.

I expect this has more to do with his opinions of cities like Chicago than the protests. Trump has made it clear he wants to "fix" Chicago through force. This would be another step in that direction.
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>>139361359
posse comitatus act
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>>139368297
Then the police should be holding press conferences to explain why they can't handle the situation without more equipment. If that's the weak link then fine.

Otherwise it's a waste of money, poor optics for all sides, and a counterproductive escalation of force.
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>>139368545
No it isn't. The system knows there is going to be protests against its genocidal antiwhite agenda so it's mobilizing its communist purple color revolution hordes and arming it's police.
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>>139357079

They could already be stopped without faggot mayors and governors in #RESIST mode.
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>>139368297
This isn't going to end well.
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If Obama did this shit, conswrvatards would be whinning about him being a Nazi and creating an unAmerican police state.
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>>139357079
nice, but all you need to do about antifa is enforce the no-mask rule. none of them can handle even the thought of prison
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>>139357079
Setting up the federal police force for tyranny.

All we need to do is kill the Jews. Kick out the blacks. Purge the intelligentsia, remove Mexicans,

Destroy feminism, rewrite history, re educate half of all whites and

Then begins practicing Christianity at which point I'm sure all the evil we did to get there will be totes worth it.

#Naziforlife
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>>139367665
Ok. Well, I know the police in US is an entirely different beast compared to our police, so I can't really have an informed opinion about the matter.

I've just seen way too many youtube videos of US cops doing absolutely fucking nothing and yet people going off the rails about how this cop is oppressing them and shit.

Due to this, I remain skeptical.
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ITT wannabe-Texas and friends think that rubber bullets are military grade weapons, and armored cars are tanks.
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>>139368297
>I dont like Antifa, but they have dominated enough right wingers in fights to prove they aren't all weak faggots
>sucker punching people and mobbing on random pedestrians 15 to one is dominating people in fights
kys now faggot
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>>139357079
The police could already stop antifa if they wanted to

Spoiler alert: ((((someone))) doesn't want them to
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>>139367337
Only in democratic states/cities.
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>>139368871
>Enforce no masks.

Good luck with that.
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>>139357079
If you stupid Americans would just train your policemen like us Germans do. You wouldn't need to resort to militaristic methods to stop dumb groups like BLM or Antifa
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>>139358902
You get winded going to the fridge. What makes you think you have enough in you to do anything more strenuous than lifting a burger to your filthy jowls, dumb burger?
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>>139368943
You are 100% correct about that. But are they standing around because they don't have equipment or because they've been told to stand around? I would say if you look at a larger range of situations you'd see that it's very clear that if the government wants to respond with overwhelming force that it can and will.

Really, the FBI should have infiltrated antifa years ago and shut it down before it ever got this bad.
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>>139368348
No dude its going to be used to protect copyrights and to [root out controlled substances to] protect big pharma.

Fringe ideologies (such as your, Hans) will always be combatted through subtle means like honeypot operations and long term investigations.

Think about it, if you and your natsoc truppers take to the streets, cops don't need to use violence on you because antifa out numbers you 200 to 1 (and will have vast popular support). All they need to do is look the other way while you are swarmed over. In this way they can let society police itself against you.
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>>139369188
You don't have our problems Kraut
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I cannot be the only one that sees this is what (((they))) want.
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>>139357484
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>>139369093
What do you mean good luck? Mass arrests aren't difficult or illegal. Very easy to document that the reason you've been arrested is due to violating some code or other about a face covering. Very easy to let people go free if there's no good reason to prosecute them.
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>>139368723
it dates back to Obama/BLM, you have to look at it in that context
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>>139365090
>police attacking themselves
why?
they aren't goldfish, you leftypol swine
they'll remember quite clearly which side was marching alongside them, and which one called for their violent deaths
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>>139357079
I support it, Trump will be out soon enough them we'll get to use all this stuff on radical white nationalist terrorist groups
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It's fine. After Trump, the socialists will have a nice solid force with which to crush any dissent.
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>>139358522
why not both?
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>>139357079
Are fucking retards kidding me militarizing the police is only gonna be used against us. Those officers will follow any order handed to them no matter how drastic, didn't you fucks ever learn anything from the Milgram experiment. The people need to rally to fight back against Antifa
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>>139369346
Oh sure, I wasn't suggesting its necessary to have better gear, just questioning whats the harm of it.
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>>139369540
You can mask yourself even with your clothes and mass arrest aren't as easy if the subjects aren't coperative.
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>>139364705
When I think of society I'm not thinking of bean and nigger countries, Steinberg.
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The police aren't militarizing in response to antifa in the first place OP. Its the war on drugs and terror..

And the limitation on force is based on ROE, not on equipment.
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>>139367348
Check out this shill faggot. Yes there are piece of shit cops. No one cares about Finland in this topic, this is about the United States. And there are plenty of shitbags cops who are deranged and need to be a "big shot" live for exerting "domination" over others. There are endless videos available for viewing.
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>>139367348
Every cop I've met and dealt with was a huge lying, manipulative, power tripping asshole. This is in Texas.
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>>139364705
name some then
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>>139369609
Commie faggot detected.
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>>139357079
Police should not treat the citizens as if they are a hostile military force because they're not. They are people just like you. This is yet another move that marks Trump as a fascist authoritarian implementing a coordinated assault on civil liberties. If you disagree you're against the very basic ideas that make America great.
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>>139369828
Like I said I don't have a problem withe more equipment if it's stuff they need and not a waste of money or an ineffective response to the problem at hand.

>>139369914
They train exactly for this particular circumstance. It's not always pretty or nice when they start shutting down crowds of people, nabbing suspects, tossing them in temporary holding camps, or whatever else. But it's no big deal if that's how they want to respond to an unruly crowd. Wearing a mask just makes it easier to identify high priority targets.
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>>139363696
Keep telling yourself that. Analysts used to say revolution was inevitable by 2016 back in 2011-12. The closest we've gotten is a few degenerate nazis and commies having at each other.
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>>139370249
Dude we have weekly protests, it might work once, but it will only end with more problems for the police.
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>>139370114
>Police should not treat the citizens as if they are a hostile military force because they're not.
agreed
which is why anyone who is associated with antifa should have their citizenship revoked
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>>139369978
>There are endless videos available for viewing.
Yes, I've watched a LOT of videos relating to US cops, its a good way to spend a night shift, but I daresay 99% of them is the cop doing nothing but his job and the "client" acting like a lunatic.
It should be noted also that these videos are generally uploaded by the civilians themselves who are acting like dumb cunts, which obviously suggests that these people think they are in the right.
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>>139370114
More likely Russian authoritarianism. It's the new American future and it's great.
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>>139369960
2 wars overtly on ideas whose enemies are actually armed, trained, aided and abetted by US foreign and domestic policies from terrorists to the cartels. How is it exactly that heroine is the fall back drug for people who got addicted to opioid from legal prescriptions? Where does the heroine come from? Why is it that the Saudis, are strongest ally in the middle east support ISIS and Al Qaeda?
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>>139360425
Fun fact:
The meek looking Bobby with the billy club in your image would have been issued a cutlass in the event he was tasked with putting down a riot.

Police "militarization" is a leftist meme spread by subversives to undermine the state's ability to fight them during insurrection. They exploit your increasing over socialization to get you to believe the use of extreme violence to maintain order is a barbaric aberration rather than the historical norm.
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>>139370114
>the very basic ideas that make America great.
>America
>great
>ever
lel, burgers are Candide af, they think their dysfunctional shithole is the greatest…
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>>139370558
Yup and people started to get unhappy about unnecessary force back in the US not too many years back. That's why you see so many people in these kinds of threads who don't like the looks of how this could wind up going.

Just consider the riots from last summer and how in many cases the sensible option was to let the riot play out and clean up after than to send in the storm troopers.

All I'm saying is that there already are mechanisms that exist to tactically deal with a militant crowd that could swiftly and effectively implemented if somebody wants to draw a clear and fair line in the sand. A no masks rule for instance would be relatively clear and fair.
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>>139370801
>He thinks this it's insurrection and not tuesday.
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>>139370071
China
Mexico
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>>139368297
Antifa has won because they are a larger mob. The Big Show would get taken down by 47 gay midgets quite easily.
The solution to this is good old-fashoin riot gear, tear gas, pepper balls, shields, and billy clubs.
So your Appeal to Authority is meaningless.
>you do not need a fucking Bearcat or MRAP to put down Antifa, you just need a shield wall and some tactics.
Easily taken care of by foot-cops with some basic riot gear.
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>>139370913
We have multiple laws against masks and weapons in protests, ask me how that works.
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>>139370565
>>139370614
Confirmed fascist authoritarians.

Revoking of citizenship requires a very strong legal precedence which simply does not exist.

White nationalists are far more dangerous than antifa (source: DOD).
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>>139369299
Nice projection, scared to show your canada flag?
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>>139370913
Yes, the government should fix the root of the problem, including declaring Antifa a domestic terrorist organization and imprisoning its leaders. Also, fix the inner cities.
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>>139370801

>MRAP comparable to cutlass

try harder shill
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>>139368623
>>139368815
>>139368968
Literally an Antifa faggot attempting to make the Right look bad by encouraging them to be violent.
The Right has picked up a huge number of supporters because people are getting attacked by losers in hordes and the police are doing nothing.
You couldn't have organized a more perfect right-shifting movement if you had intended to.
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>>139371162
Confirmed getting your shit pushed in by riot cops :^)
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>>139371183
>can't face facts

Typical burgerstani
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>>139370872
Where's the fault in trying? Not that I disagree, but the founding principles of our nation are based on autonomous egalitarianism.
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>>139357079

Many western nations have gendarmes, I don't see how formalizing the idea that police could fulfill a paramilitary/military police role is a bad thing.
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>>139371336
You are obviously advocating for an escalation of violence and i'm showing you what happens when you do that.
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Its really odd that there were several Police shootings last week in 3 different cities resulting in 2 deaths, and not one single call in the media for gun control...not one.
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>>139357079
no! its what ((They)) want. they (antifa, backed by soros) are trying to scare everyone saying we need more police. (((((We))))) need to get out there and fuck em up. And talk to your stupid sisters get them to stop being fucking femfags. stop larping cunts.
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>>139371400
Where's that confirmation Mr. Fashy Haircut? They'll come for you too. It's dangerous to build your house on a slippery slope for a reason.
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>>139371140
The point is to start using a law like that before masks become normal. Force escalation should almost always be done rapidly and with overwhelming force to discourage an obvious cancer from getting out of hand. So in other words, for instance, the federal emergency alert system should be used to announce days beforehand to the entire country that the planned demonstration in XYZ city will be under a "no mask" rule and anybody who shows up wearing a mask will be arrested no exceptions.

Ideally this only happens temporarily so that people go back their happy, fun, productive lives.
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The police are loyal to Freemasons which are loyal to the Jews. They cannot be trusted.
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>>139371336
Chomsky has a remarkably similar opinion. Are you a leftist?
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>>139371706
>They'll come for you too.
how will they come for me too is I'm one of them
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>>139371452
your system is shit and instead of worshipping it and trying to spread it to other countries you should learn from superior systems and improve your shit.
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At this point. No. They will get it somehow. Let them be better equipped. I say we shouldn't be bootlickers but the police need a certain amount of power
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>>139371769
This it's literally what our politicians have been saying since Pinochet returned the power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElsFA_5mxBU
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>>139371259
>A truck is an example of oppressive military equipment that will be used to tyrannically enforce the edicts of the state
>literal SWORDS issued to police so they can CHOP PEOPLE UP is not

The only shill here is you kekistan faggot.
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>>139371137
have you seen what the average kekistani looks like?
Both sides have their share of nu-male cucks and their share of stronger members. And again, niggers can fight and they are generally easily manipulated by commies.

Antifa maybe be wearing women's panties like the marxist faggots they are but they would still wreck a weak chinned vidya nerd in a pepe t-shirt.

Again, underestimating your opponent is the biggest mistake you can make. Whether its sports, or warfare. Its a mistake every time. Always be honest with yourself and your men about your enemies capability. Arrogance doesn't win wars, and never has. (the USA should know, the amount of time its been embarrassed by farmers and cave dwellers should have taught you that lesson already)
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>>139371769
Why stop there, might as well revoke freedom of speech, free association and gathering. No reason to militarise police then. Achieving the same goal with a minute fraction of taxpayer expenditure. Nothing could go wrong.
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>>139357079
>Is the militarizing of the police worth it to prevent Antifa?
>Do you think this is an over stepping of government power?
>http://archive.is/SgaGd
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13807933
We alredy have that in spain
Its called La Guardia Civil
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>>139372017
Not an argument.
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>>139371137
The solution is a firing line and bayonets and even that is gentler treatment than they deserve. The draft riots in NYC during the civil war were dispersed with naval artillery bombardment.
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>>139368545
Lmao nice try (((shill))). Pushing this fake bullshit. Kikes or any establishment figure pushing to disarm police, how absurd.

And what good would it do for "kikes" to disarm the police when they're investing so much in them?

What bullshit will you post next?
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>>139372382
Speech is expression...wearing a mask is the opposite of expression, it is not protected by the 1st Amendment.
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>>139372382
We're already there with safe spaces and free speech zones. It's a shitty thing to do and the wrong way to handle the root problem, but once the root problem is out of control it becomes relevant to maintain some level of public order.

Otherwise you can enjoy being like France where having your store busted and your car set on fire is a weekly normal thing and no big deal.

And then you get Roof Koreans after that. They're based as fuck, but you don't actually want that to be a normal thing.
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>>139357079

"Even if he means to govern well, he means to govern."
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>>139372008
I guess you're furthering the point that white nationalists, neo-nazis and kkk members (i.e. domestic terrorists) have infiltrated and infested law enforcement which is why they're not respected as a whole.
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>>139357079
Yes, execute Oder 66
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>>139372616
>what good would it do for "kikes" to disarm the police
I already said, more BLM mayhem

you're clearly a dumb burgershart so let me break it down for you. Kikes are not monolithic, there's largely two sides, marxist kikes, the ones pushing for BLM, antifa, all that Bernie shit (do you think Bernie is against disarming the police?), and the nationalist/Zionist pro-Israel kikes, who are no better, but push for different things.
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>>139371558
Maybe it's time we stopped fearing "escalation" and let all our grievances finally get worked out in the open once and for all. Your stance is akin to the leftist "don't call Muslims terrorists or they'll commit terrorism" argument.

If the Left wants war I say we finally give it to them. Let their revolution happen and let the best man win.
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>>139359672
>The US police forces are not encountering criminals with RPGs, HMGs, land mines, hand grenades

With the exception of the RPG I can make all of that in my garage. Are you suggesting that the police should be unprepared for anyone with basic machining ability snaps?
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>>139372634
Wearing a mask is a form of expression that is thousands of years old.
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>>139372985
the only thing I am forthcoming is that I am going to enjoy ever second of seeing you and you comrades get the absolute shit kicked out of you and thrown into cells to rot.
Personally I would hang you all from street lamps but I'll be happy all the same with the former.
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>>139372234

>implying rioters can't chop the bobbies up
>implying MRAP is just a truck

try harder.
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>>139373016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUJwwQVQOnI

Here I know you like seing brown people being beaten up.

>>139373135
My stance it's don't do dumb things that will end with death people.
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>>139373178
So is breaking stuff an acting like a barbarian. We generally start to draw the line on babies throwing tantrums at some level of expected intelligence and public decorum.

Sometimes we call this, "civilization" or some other such term. Most people like it and prefer to be able to express themselves in public in a civil fashion.
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>>139373016
And I anyway said (((you're))) full of shit.

No establishment figure is pushing to disarm police. It's absurd ass fuck and would never even begin to be considered.
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>>139372723
Why not deal with the systemic problems on a fundamental level as opposed to quashing civil rights in an open occupation of a captured state.
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>>139366702
Spooky
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>>139373178
No, wearing a mask for concealment of identity is an act of concealment, the exact opposite of expression you fucking retard
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>>139373385
your're are and idiot
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>>139373565
Search on my ID and you'll find I've repeatedly been making that very point. Since this has yet to be done, then we're also faced with the unhappy situation of dealing with a mess that should have been avoided.

Look at the Hurricane Harvey or any other such thing. Disaster response is usually messy and mistakes are usually made but it's also fundamentally appropriate to attempt.
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>>139373385
>No establishment figure is pushing to disarm police
>what is Obama trying to disarm PDs
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>>139373187
Whatever fascist scum. You are exactly the reason why militarising the police is a bad idea. If you don't like the US, have no loyalty to the constitution, you should leave. I hear Hungary is a safe space for you, stormflake.
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>>139373832
Shill fuckwad
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>>139373978
soon
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>>139373951
(((You))) posted an article about Obama supposedly wanting to crack down on private gun ownership and criteria thereof.

Nothing about disarming police.

Fuck off.
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>>139373283
So if I'm understanding this correctly, you honestly believe that it would be less problematic for modern riot control officers to be issued cutlasses to aid dispersal of riotous elements, than it is for them to be issued trucks that are resistant to land-mines?

This is is your opinion correct?
Just to be clear.
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>>139373374


Like this group of civilized gentlemen?
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>>139373333
>My stance it's don't do dumb things that will end with death people.

People will die regardless.
Better we die fighting, than inch by inch in slow submission to leftist salami slicing.
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>>139374377
I'm not familiar with those gentlemen. It doesn't appear to be very civilized and I would rather have a friendly uninterested 3rd party like a police officer to shut that down and try to determine what the issue is.

But I have no way to know of those gentlemen were in the wrong or acting in self defense or what. It appears as though they are over-reacting and in the wrong, but I have no idea really what conditions lead to that kind of rather ungentlemanly behavior.
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>>139365090
Lol keep crying faggot.
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>>139374521
I can respect that.
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>>139370573
Shill more faggot
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>>139374377
Those men are simply engaging in rigorous self defense against Marxist vanguard elements.
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>>139373843
>live in captured state system
>let's arm those who protect and serve with military grade weapons as opposed to directly treating the social ills born from that system
I fundamentally disagree with your conclusion.
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>>139374699
Good shit my man.
Are you one of the "lefty internet activists" who said "Calling people shills is the most effective thing we're doing in 4chan atm"
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>>139374609
http://www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/national/deandre-harris-viciously-beaten-poles-white-supremacists-article-1.3410063
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>>139373283
It is just a truck. Have you ever been around one?
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>>139357484

ITT Dumbfucks who don't know the government and don't think pic related isn't a possibility for left wing or right wing.

They're watching everything you do through the NSA
They bought out the media.
They torture people in black sites.
They torture people in Guantanimo
They have you all by the balls with debt.
They bail out the banks
The elections are rigged.
Bribery of politicians is real.

Get a fucking clue people, the government is not your friend, Nazi or not. It's only going to crush you in the end. Wake up to this fact, or face annihilation. Giving the police military gear is a prelude to crushing civil unrest, so that the globalists can crush us under poverty and slavery.

t. Montana Militiaman
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>>139374371

>use 19th century bobbies as analogy
>now takes analogy literally

Now i know you are retarded.
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>>139374813
So you say. Nice moving of the goal posts there.

>epitome of the slippery slope via false equivalency
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>>139374911
I believe I should have military grade weapons as well. I suppose I do depending on exactly how you want to define that. It's not under my direct control whether or not my state system is "captured" or not, so I just try to pick the best available options. Honestly, I'm not at all a fan of anarchy as a solution.

>>139375081
Seems like those fellows ought to be arrested, investigated, potentially charged and tried, and all the rest. Too bad there weren't any police there to intervene when these madmen resorted to this uncivilized act of violence.
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>>139374911
>let's arm those who protect and serve with military grade weapons
*imagines a mob of antifa and virtue signalling college kid active camouflage dispersed with controlled bursts from a Ma Deuce*

FUND IT
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>>139360631
>mfw life is easy mode
>mfw never had to commit a crime to survive
>mfw im not interested in my well being enough to go to a rally
>mfw i blame black people because of my lack of action
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>>139357079
duh
>you want them gone or don't you?
>if 5-0 is militarized, what do you have to be worried about?
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>>139375200
Yes and no. It seems they can't figure out how to hold an election or whether or not Russia hacked it. That doesn't make them any more my friend and I think the NSA probably has too much equipment if it can't figure that out, but I would be willing to consider getting some additional equipment and procedures if I thought it would do something useful toward having a better election system.

I'm not terribly familiar with my own state's militia, but the CO seems like a very smart and level-headed man. He tried to help sort out the Bundy situation before it escalated the way it did, and I'd rather he were calling the shots in that one than the federal government, that's for sure.
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>>139375200
>Bribery of politicians is legal

Fuck, I agree with everything in this post. Thank you for truly based analysis and forcing me to accept that I agree with a libertarian on something.
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>>139357079
Antifa don't use guns because they are anti first amendment. Why can't the cops deal with them without military gear? Bats are defeated by simply wearing a helmet or armor.
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