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Is anyone else being pushed further to the right because of this AntiFa+Mainstream media bullshit? I used to be somewhat liberal but lately I feel like the only way I can survive is if I swing right. This is fucked up, I'm a Californian I'm not supposed to be thinking this way. Is this what a red pill is?
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No because I'm not a fucking idiot who watches Buzzfeed
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>>139300099
Same. It turns out liberals don't actually care about progressive politics, only about importing a new people (who also happen to want revenge on me for being white) so that they can reap the fruits of a permanent supermajority. There's nothing conservative about not wanting to be demographically replaced.
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be calm and enjoy finally seeing the truth. its like reprogramming from being in a brainwashing cult. welcome.
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>>139300099
Checking your full house. It has been great, people have either fully rejected the dildo or taken the dilfo in fully without lube
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each and every day i unironically find a new reason to hate humanity as a whole
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>>139300099
Im in the same boat OP. Since I don't buy into the "diversity is our strength" propaganda I'm practically a heretic according to the Canadian mainstream.
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point out that the DNC literally cheated against sanders.
it will help push them over the edge.
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>>139300099
Welcome.
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>>139300099
>I just got redpilled guise!1!
No. It will come, but for now you're just a faggot
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My gf watches the news and yells at the tv more than I do now. I keep telling her that she's putting money in their pockets but you know how women are.
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>>139300720
That depends if they supported Bernie in the first place. My friends who supported Bernie are slowly being redpilled while the Hillary supporter is staunchly bluepilled af.

I don't know how to break the conditioning for him. Even discussing politics with people like that is impossible because they get so emotionally charged and angry. How the fuck do you have a rational conversation at that rate?
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funny i was in some holistic health required class and everyone even the chads and stacys were dumbfounded by the section about drunk girls consent issues.
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>>139300099
My political views haven't changed in almost a decade. Cultural forces on the left are attempting to shove diversity skeptics and fellow liberal non-conformists into a box -- it only feels like a shift to the right in the same way that stacking the port-side of a boat with more oarsmen causes the whole ship to steer starboard.
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>>139301153
You accept that they cannot be saved
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>>139300099
>I used to be somewhat liberal
Most of us did
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>>139300165
Thats because you watch CNN instead
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>>139300099
We're all Nazis now.
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>>139300269
This is the kicker for me. I tell people that it isn't racist to want to be replaced demographically by people who don't share my values and they call me a racist. I don't even bring up race, but its still the go to response. Fucking irritating.
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>>139300859
>Math be Racist: Volume 2
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>used to be somewhat liberal

So
Have
You
Heard
About
The
Jews
?
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>>139300099
I'm still a libertarian, I've just come to realize that socialism and (for the most part) non-whites are incompatible with freedom.
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I know. I have been working on a few normies. And I have been surprised at how receptive they have been. I have created a safe space in private conversations for them to tell me how they really fell and think.

Some of the left leaning ones have expressed biggited view against blacks and jews.

Inside I was beaming with joy.

>>139301390
I have been 14 words since the age of 6
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>>139300099
Not what a red pill is but I encourage you to keep reading and learning. Im a populist and pretty left of center overall. Not too long ago I was pretty brainwashed by the leftist hivemind and college. All it took was autistically researching politics for months and I broke free. You can do it too.
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>>139301537
I was actually a race realist before I was a "rightist". Even though I wasn't too interested in identity politics, identity politics turned out to be very interested in me.

Well, I'm still not really a rightist, I just stopped caring about the "plight" of non-whites, and want most of them removed or encouraged to leave.
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>>139301724
Meant to say, right of center. Also Im definitely sympathic of nat soc/fascist views though I cant say it can be realistically implemented at this stage of the game.
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>>139301537
The trick is to actually become a racist. Then you don't care when they put the label on you. What's more, you can respond to them by saying something like, "so prove me wrong, but if you can't then racism wins."
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>>139300099
I Was already to the right, but now I'm thinking of trying to get a job with the National Policy Institute or joining Identity EVROPA
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>>139300099

>oh noes! My feelings are hurt! Let me join the nazis!

Lmao you fucking faggot
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>>139300099
Well they wanted us here, and here we are.

I'm curious to what their next strategy is.
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>>139300099
no, i am already as far to the right as one can go
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The media, Hollywood, academia, blm, Antifa, free speech issues, etc have pushed me much farther right than I ever thought I'd be.
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>>139300099
Why doesn't the police just shoot them? Honest question.
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>>139300099
nah, youre just getting started
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>>139302164
>Well they wanted us here, and here we are.

No, this wasn't what they expected. The left's main problem is that they fundamentally don't understand human nature. They actually think diversity teaches tolerance and social welfare teaches responsibility. They have nor real understanding of normal people. I call it the inhumanity of the left.
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>>139302537
A. It would cost them their jobs.
B. The right-wing cops know letting the left riot will push normal people to the right.
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>>139302164
More liberation and freedom for everyone, especially those evil savages that are SO inferior to us and our culture, i'm sure our happy lives is exactly what everyone wants =^).

Nah but srsly; more deaths and more destruction until the climax where the anti-christ comes and together they will all be reborn and ascend to their paradise or whatnot.

at least that's what they believe and seem to be putting it into practice.
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>>139301671
I was always pretty racist due to personal experiences, even though I was raised the complete opposite, but I was also an unapologetic liberal and socialist. But these last couple of years, seeing what's become of the Democratic party, I can no longer justify associating myself with them. Then I did my research on the immigration act and how they fucked this country to get more votes since they were steadily losing their old base, the south.
I don't consider myself a republican at all, but I'm pretty impressed with things like the raise act and actually deporting illegals, which most Republicans would never do.
But my race comes before even my country and I'm doing my part with starting a family. It's just become so blatant now, the white man hating that I thought only I experienced because I grew up in a diverse neighborhood, is now affecting normies, it's great.
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>>139300099

Welcome aboard mein kameraden, here is your complementary stahlhelm and Jew gassing kit now get out there and let's see some kike blood
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>>139301153
He's already in the minority, don't care about him and focus on the Bernie bros.
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When do we gas the university professors and high school teachers for TEACHING EVERYONE THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE SCOURGE OF THE EARTH, AND THAT ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE TODAY SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR HOW THE INDIANS AND BLACKS WERE TREATED. WHEN?
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>>139300099
After slowly redpilling my grandparents for a year, I dropped the holocoaust pills. I got them to realize that they were lied to about the holocaust and the number of Jews killed. All thanks to them first waking up to how much the media lies.
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>>139300099

Heard my dad saying to my mom that this election has made him racist (against non-whites).

Was kinda cringe to hear because how could he not see how bad niggers were before, but made me happy nonetheless
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>>139300099
I'm still a liberal, I'm just a racist liberal.
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>>139300099
I kinda swing extreme right and ethnostate but then I see the natsoc degenerates taking over here and keep falling back to centrist positions.
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r0lling for Hitler Ice Cream brand next year
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>>139305548
14 is fine... can't get down with the 88. Not sure if it's because I'm cautious about the idea of national socialism or because most self-proclaimed NatSocs I see here are elitist assholes. Probably both.
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>>139300099
>He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
No.
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>>139300099
I'm all the way to the right m8
I just want to be put down
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Even a casual reading of the twitter feeds of the local reporters covering the antifa chimpout shows normies, and some liberals, absolutely disgusted by antifa.
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>>139300099
Yes. I'm force fed liberal propaganda everyday. and I crave Nazi dick now
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>>139300269
Democrats only care about a voting base. They don't care about people with darker skin colors. Look at the cities that house them, for example.
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>>139305848
Yeah, it's a roadblock for me, too. It seemed to be something different at first but now it's a revival of the same David Duke tier losers from the past decades.
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>>139300099
Here, think you can handle this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tDOZOW0IFg&t
You aren't a fucking pussy are you?
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>>139305971
There's the overrated Nietzsche quote always being thrown around.
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>>139306090
I dunno. My normie friends in Berkeley sent me pics today of the march--including signs saying shit like "say yes to marxism" --and they were all, isn't it nice that this was so non-violent? Sent them pics of the same idiots burning free speech signs. I'm so sick of retards. There are still so fucking many of them--and these normies are actually pretty smart people so it's worrying. Of course they do live in the heart of darkness.
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lol my 20 yo friend went through a super liberal phase then after the Charlotte shit is posting about how the media is anti-white. of course his normie friends jumped on him and posted articles about how white people aren't treated unfairly.

i just find it super fucking weird to listen to comedy central go on for 20 minutes, and the same fucking joke is repeated in different ways. "omg white people think they're oppressed, they're not! hilarious!"

like if they didn't hate white people why would they spend so many hours a day talking about how nothing is wrong for them.
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>>139300099
Yes. Californian as well.
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>>139300099

SouthEast USfag here. Most people in my area are Democrats because they were raised as Democrats. They even voted for Hillary.

Media not trying to hide it, obvious efforts to make good bad and bad good, and the obvious silence of dissenters going on have pushed them WAAAY right. The notion of flying an American flag being a bad thing, I believe, is the straw that broke the camels back.

Trust me, they're placating themselves thinking they are gaining momentum. The far far left is, but they're decimating support for Democrats. Sure the far left will go from having 0.5% of the populations support maybe all the way up to 1.5%, but the Democrats will pay dearly for their silence on the issue.
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>>139300099
Yeah Im a taxi driver and get call to pick up at Grocery Store so I go. I have a buzzcut so probably half the people that see think Im a nazi. I show up and this grocery store guy that called me is filming me or he says taking a picture it took like 10sec. Im like wut and hes says they take a pic of everyone I have no idea what that means. I let it go but then he tells the asian lady to text him when she gets home safe so I lose my god damn mind! Guys sitting here treating me like Im going to rape and murder some Gook. I ask her if she still wants the cab and she says no cause this guy is acting like Im KKK or something. So I talk mad shit to that antifa guy and leave. He calls and said he called the cops and hangs up in my face. I go back and now some nigger manager is telling me Im trespassing and I say Im not running from the cops. Nigger calls cops and is lieing to them saying I was yelling at my customer so I say you wanna set me up lets make it real so I start cussing everybody out and this nigs all scarred and locking the doors and shit.

Im so ready for Valhalla its ridiculous.
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>>139306090
I hope this is a wake-up call for most that are getting fooled. The few ones pulling the strings know what they're doing. They know how much trust is put on TV news and what people relly on to get their opinions.
For example : Trump is being demonized by CNN, Trump emphasizes on it, he claims they're not trustworthy. CNN on their side put out exactly that, untrustwrothy crap, "DRUMPF THE RACISS, HE HATES IMMIGRANTS!". What happens next is whoever argues this gets to hear the "truth", and the result is a legitimization of the USA's gov. How sweet, a USA that will go to war for Israel to fight terrorism(something the ones pulling the strings invent, promote through media, etc) so endless wars can keep going on.
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>>139306836
>like if they didn't hate white people why would they spend so many hours a day talking about how nothing is wrong for them.

This is exactly it. It might be true if a couple of people said "White people are not oppressed" like once or twice about a year ago. But it's just on and on and on and so fucking persistent.
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>>139300099
cechececk

yup. U've bin redpilled
welcome
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>>139300269
>There's nothing conservative about not wanting to be demographically replaced.
Anon, I don't know how to tell you this...
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>>139300099
i'm getting pushed more left after seeing all those stupid beta faces with the tiki torches right after reading that google geek's shitty essay
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>>139301537
because it is racism.

the real question is to ask them. "so? why is that bad?"

guarantee you most people will never be able to tell you why racism is bad, without resorting to Hitler and "muh equality".
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>>139306464
David Duke is shady as fuck, and Richard Spencer is kind of a dumbass. I think the right needs a serious rebranding if it ever wants to go out into the public sphere, or maybe it should just keep its public appearance at an absolute minimum.
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>>139300099
You had babby's first redpill and it's all downhill from here
Welcome to freedom
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>>139307087
I'm going to take a wild guess and say you live in a major metropolitan area like Atlanta, Charlotte, or Raleigh.
T. also Southeast fag
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>>139300099
Obvious troll is obvious
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>>139300099 (checked)
>Is anyone else being pushed further to the right because of this AntiFa+Mainstream media bullshit?

most people are. that's the entire point.
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used to be a centrist liberal, learned about the jews and race because of the left being retarded and went natsoc bc of it
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>>139300099
>Is anyone else being pushed further to the right because of this AntiFa+Mainstream media bullshit?
No...?
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>>139300099
Nice numbers there. I use imgur and it's remarkable to me to see this happening. Picture related is currently the 5th most viral image, the comments are full of people reacting with horror at SJW nonsense.
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>>139300099
those are the digits of truth.

I would have considered myself liberal 10 years ago.

I voted for Obama twice and bought the "muh republicans" koolaid.

that said, I never considered myself leftist or anything. Liberals werent the insane bunch they are now, back then.

I was raised to treat everyone with respect, even those you may not like or agree with. Treat others how you would want to be treated.

And yet now I see that despite that, it all counts for nothing because I'm white so I'm automatically evil and racist and my opinion doesn't matter.

At the same time, I saw the Democrats slowly go further and further left. First it was gay marriage, which i didn't agree with, but it didn't affect me one way or another so I didn't have an opinion.

Then this heavy green energy global warming push.

And now trannies. etc etc. the further left they went, I suddenly found myself sitting in the far right without ever having moved too much from where I was ideologically in the first place.
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>at work
>talking with sam, a sales manager months ago
>he's indian (but uses a toilet, this is america)
>months ago, says trump's inauguration is hurting america
>point out the only people being violent were radical left paid protesters
>point out the only people calling for violence were radical left celebrities
>we don't talk politics for months but talk about other things like history
>sam says it's a shame what happened at charlottesville, two groups of radicals fighting each other
>few days later, he says trump was right at the conference, now they want all statues to come down
>says he immigrated here legally when he was in his teens (he's now in his late 50's)
>says it's depressing how the left wants to destroy our history
>says it's clear democrats want to erase their own racist past by taking down old statues of democrat slave owners

I'm glad people are starting to break away from the Jew propaganda. It's a shame it took the left being able to get away with all the shit they've done over the years to the point where people hate them now, but at least if we have the civil war the left wants, they'll get their skulls crushed open in the streets.
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>>139307168
Are you cute?
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Maybe this is how Nazis were made, anon.

Maybe they weren't bad people, maybe they weren't evil. Maybe they were just good people who cared about their families and had been pushed too fucking far.
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>>139301390
Interesting man. I've heard that his books are worth reading. You know, both sides are doing this right now in our current culture war. In some ways, we're winning. The Charlottesville fiasco was more of a victory for them though, one we must avoid in future. IMO marching and demonstrating--unless it can manifest looking like a COMPLETELY normie-driven event, like the Women's March--should not be something we do. Reason being we don't have 80%-90% of the media on our side, and without them glossing over the origins of such marches, they will inevitably be branded as Nazi activity and discredited. Note that the so-called Woman's March was organized in large part by Linda Sarsour, an Islamist whose religion and culture are hardly in support of women's rights as western women know them; but her inflammatory statements and the more unpleasant aspects of her ideology were carefully hidden for the march by the media.

We have no such protections so we must find a cleverer way to win. It's nice when the left plays into our hands by staging more violent demonstrations, but never forget, the media will still only print the pretty pics of people hugging each other and so forth, not the pics of flags and free speech cards being burnt. Normies will just smile indulgently and say, "aw, the youth are still marching for freedom just like we used to do."

Islamists, like us, have a difficult road, far more so than the communists/globalists, as the left has always given tacit approval to Communism. They commingle it with socialism which many Americans think is fine (most don't know what "nazi" stands for anymore, so that can't be effectively used against socialism.) And they equate it with underdog leftism, hippies, bohemians, jazz, poetry... "so it must be okay."

By contrast, Islamists are succeeding primarily by infiltration. They move in and get involved. They build numbers, run for office and win. Now they're moving into media and education. We need to do that too.
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>>139308410
7/10
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>>139308194
Are you me?
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>Jews create the rise of white nationalism (Alt-Right) by flooding only and all white nations will non-white immigrants who rape and murder
>Jews create the rise of ANTIFA to seemingly combat the rise of white nationalism and the Alt-Right
>Except Jews are leading and funding both ANTIFA and the Alt-Right
>Because Jews plan to make the right look as stupid and dangerous as the left
>So that when the commies get their movement banned, white nationalists will also get theirs banned
>But Jews dont really care about Communism because it could never work especially in America and they know that
>Therefore the entire plot is simply to outlaw national socialism, white nationalism and like movements by co-opting them and portraying them as equally dangerous as ANTIFA
>white people get white nationalism hated and banned but discount this fact because they believe theyre doing good by banning ANTIFA and communism
>????
>hand rubbing intensifies
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>>139307168
Any serial killer worth his salt would tell you, you gotta quit sperging out, man, or your victim will run like a scared rabbit. You lost your cool, so they got scared, dummy. Be cool. Laugh, roll your eyes. Act like they're the crazy ones. Be disarming. It works.
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>>139300099
can i be a based black man in the ethnostate?
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>>139308453
>maybe

Omit the word maybe
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There is no turning back now. Welcome
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If the cops won't maintain law and order on the command of some liberal mayor trying to create a political scene, why shouldn't the citizens take it into their own hands? How much longer before this very preventable circus becomes truly deadly?
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>>139308364
>>says it's clear democrats want to erase their own racist past by taking down old statues of democrat slave owners
We need to push this point much MUCH harder. I know some of you guys love Andrew Jackson despite the fact that he was a Democrat but....it can be used to smear them now, and should be. Good Dems hate Jackson and most I know had been assuming he was a Republican till I pointed out the truth. It's one of those useful little "makes you think" moments.
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>>139300269
>permanent supermajority

It's funny, even as a Democrat I was very concerned that Democrat dominance without a viable Republican party to criticize it and keep it in check could result in the Democrat/Liberal establishment becoming corrupt and wayward.

I despised the Neocon establishment, but saw the (pre-establishment-coopting) Tea Party in a somewhat positive light because its heart was in the right place on fiscal / foreign policy matters.
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>>139308855
>checked
fine with me famalam
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>>139302093
Are you posting here for shekels or a grade? Either way it's an ocean of piss
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>>139300099

me own brother started complaining about (((them))) without quite realizing it yet. Oh boy. Oh boy oh boy oh boy!
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>>139300099
a year ago i was a good goy and unironically held a civic nationalist, neo liberal political opinion. I just finished the turner diaries and now i'm onto SIEGE.
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>>139308713
You might be.

>tfw used to read the New York Times because my college gets free copies, and the NYT is supposed to be a respected newspaper

>slowly see the NYT itself become shittier and more biased as time goes on, until it is literally just a liberal rag writing actual clickbait anti-republican andti white shlock

>can't help but wonder, was it me that changed or did one of the most respected Newspapers in the country actually become a fucking joke overnight
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>>139308517
Right on the money.

“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”

“If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected .”
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Go outside and you'll find most people don't really give a shit about the alt right or the alt left

It's literally only online
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>>139308453
>Maybe they weren't bad people, maybe they weren't evil.
Yeah, no. Don't become the thing you're fighting.
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>>139301629
The beauty of freedom is that if you remove socialism, everyone must embrace the values of a free society or leave it.
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>>139300099
Not too long ago California wasnt "this way".

Corruption, illegals, and marxism through college made it this way.

you were indoctrinated.
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>>139307604
I'm split about Richard Spencer because I knew him long before the Trump election and his biggest mistake is that he's to inclusive towards guys who don't care about his brand of identitarianism. He's like that idealistic commie that gets gulag'd by his "comrades" in the end. Also, public marches are contraproductive, they're just giant honeypots. People in the past would kill for something like the internet which can subvert and spread ideas much faster.
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>>139309418
Sometimes
“To know your Enemy, you must become your Enemy.”
― Sun Tzu
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>>139300099
Aye.
I was mid-liberal and always got into political arguments with my highly conservative folks.
Now, I'm the most conservative in the house. The more violence and hateful speech used by the Alt-Left has turned me fully Conservative and Republican.
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>>139300099
Holy shit check'd
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>>139300099
I'm being pushed towards the martial law pill and turning a blind eye to the military killing anything wearing a mask or carrying a bat in the street.
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I feel like I'm still drifting rightwards and I'm a reactionary ethno-nationalist, a decade ago I could've easily be classified as a liberal and I knew all of the talking points. It's why I still have a soft spot for the sceptic community, there's no such thing as a redpill or single truth that turns you from a liberal to a nationalist because liberalism is the default position and you first have to become sceptical of it to allow yourself to even investigate the opposition's ideas. Even a couple of years ago when I would've called myself a paleocon with WN sympathies I refused to read "anti-semitic" literature, leftism is a sort of mental programming you have to break through.
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Went from somewhat rightwing until I was 18 and saw all the bullshit around me and somewhat went left to go with the flow.

Last 10 months have made me pretty conservative again. Mostly just the being lied to part.
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>>139300696
diversity is strength
war is peace
freedom is slavery
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>>139308744
>Jews create the rise of white nationalism (Alt-Right) by flooding only and all white nations will non-white immigrants who rape and murder
Miscegenation was the goal, not a reactionary movement.
>Jews create the rise of ANTIFA to seemingly combat the rise of white nationalism and the Alt-Right
Antifa predates the alt-right
>Except Jews are leading and funding both ANTIFA and the Alt-Right
Except jews are trying to silence alt right, and most of their spokespeople are dirt poor.
>Because Jews plan to make the right look as stupid and dangerous as the left
They've been doing that since the 50's
>So that when the commies get their movement banned, white nationalists will also get theirs banned
Communists have been subverting the US since the 20's. They were banned. Now they return as a Maoist revolution, with full support of the MSM and Acedemia, as well as many in government.

ect ect.
Your worldview is shit tier basic. Rethink.
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The common pathway almost everyone I've talked to takes is

>I'm a liberal
>I'm fiscally conservative but socially liberal
>I'm a classical liberal
>I'm a libertarian
>At this point you usually read some sort of race realist literature and go down the rabbit hole
The whole process can take 5-10 years because you're fighting against it the entire time
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>>139309850
I used to be sympathetic to ethnonationalism and fascism, but realized that when the majority of the population are cucks, an ethnostate is going to end up cucked, and the political mechanisms/institutions of a strong reactionary regime can easily be re-appropriated for a cucked regime over time.

Consequently, prudent organic self-organization of society protected by a small government that gives no handouts seems the most realistic way to cultivate a healthy and cohesive society.
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>>139308364
I kinda feel bad for the few nonwhites here in America who actually do see past all the leftist propaganda. What the fuck are they supposed to do, join a white identitarian movement?
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>>139300099
I was a liberal before all of this political madness started, never again will i vote democrat after seeing the marxist beast fill the ranks of the left.
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Start small kid. 1488 life is so far to the right that you're too far.
As for being to the right look up Rand and Ron Paul.
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>>139300099
I'm from California. Voted dem my whole life, except for Trump.

You didn't change, the left left you.
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Is anyone else a massive loser who starts really shitty threads where they tell blatantly obvious lies to a group of useful idiots to maintain a delusional circle jerk?

>LOL GUIES I WAS THE OTHER TEAM BUT NOW I M THIS TEAM
>80000 replies
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>>139300099
These last two years have really been a rude awakening for me. I was a progressive democrat in 2015. I've been redpilled and it's been HARD

Which really fucks me up, bc I was so sure of myself before. I knew I was right. But now I don't know what else to call leftism but a mental illness, a mind virus.

It's sobering to say the least and isolating
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>>139310640
I just don't think it's realistic desu. On top of the literal bloodbath that would be required to remove all the nonwhites from America, trying to build a white ethnostate with the current population of cucked, self-hating whites would be like trying to start a dance party at a morgue.
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>>139310580
Process took all of 2-3 years here.

Still convinced that racial issues are significantly minimized in the absence of gibmedats, granted there is free association and Marxist agitators are physically removed from society.
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>>139307395
The tiki torches was a mistake. It doesn't push me left, but it was cringe
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Make America Fascist Again
MAFA mofo
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My friend was telling me some crazy shit the other day. That's why I'm here now.
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>>139310640
>cucked fascism.
how would that work?
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>>139307168
Calm down, Travis.
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>>139311128
you were gaslit by the MSM fag-shaming it. you fell for their bullshit anon.
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>>139306464
>>139307604
Either this is a new method of concern trolling, or you two fell for some of the purity spiral shills.
NatSoc is literally just ethnonationalism combined with opposition to both usury and communism.
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>>139300099

> Look at you.
> You're the normie now.
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Id been a lib-righter, but the nazis look better every damn day and I cant stand it. This Union makes me sick.
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>>139310580
You can be a classical liberal/libertarian and still be a race realist. Just because I understand IQ differences between races doesn't mean I worship Uncle Adolf.
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I used to think CNN was a credible news source, that was until the election when all they ever talked about was how evil trump is. It really showed me how biased the Msm really was.
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>>139311205
As leadership / controlling party / political climate changes, the power of the state remains.

Over several decades, you can go from a right-wing government to a left-wing government while retaining the same bureaucratic and political mechanisms.
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>>139310986
You underestimate what war can do to change and motivate society.
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>>139300269
>It turns out liberals don't actually care about progressive politics, only about importing a new people (who also happen to want revenge on me for being white) so that they can reap the fruits of a permanent supermajority.

So true. And remember who taught the parties to hate each other so much they'd do anything to win? That's right, it was the jewish 24-hour news media in the early 2000s. The plan was to keep the public split 50-50 and at each others throats so they'd be sure to turn in to the election coverage (over a year of it, remember) and nailbiting election nights. Of course, the added benefit was white genocide.
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>>139305296
Do they bring you extra tendies now?
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>>139310640
That's true but I don't believe that ethnostates are going to be born of political will, they're going to be born of crisis, and in the same way a strong regime could be co-opted (I've got my own thoughts on how to counteract that but it's too long to go into), a weak government could also be, as it has been in the case of the USA. I believe the priority of government should be stability rather than freedom.

>>139311076
They are, people naturally self-segregate and when we aren't forced to mix there's a lot less friction, don't get me wrong it's a lot better than what we have now and if there was a possibility of it occurring I'd be supporting it, but I believe ethnostates are a better solution in the long term and honestly they're about as likely as getting government to relinquish that much power.

>>139311553
Yes, you can understand the fact and not understand the consequences of the fact
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>>139310651
This is exactly why white groups should modify their approach
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>>139311553
Adolf worship triggers the kikes into stupidity. Look how bad they're fucking up now. Even if you don't like 88, it still causes fear and poor decisions.
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>>139300099
A red pill is when you realize the Holocaust is such a tragedy because it didn't actually happen.
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>>139311455
That's the thing though. Everyone who tries to explain NatSoc to me tells me something completely different. A lot of them seem to just want some kind of totalitarian police state with no free speech and a forced eugenics program.
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>>139300099
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>>139305548
>>139305848
Stormfags are the most degenerate cucks alive. You shouldn't follow that shit or worship a degenerate methhead autist.

The redpill should mostly be about self improvement and the 14 words. 88 is literally cult shit started by drugged out neo nazis who would've been hippies if they were alive in the 60's.
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>>139311718
The squabbles are intrinsically over the question of who is entitled to the sweat of the American working man's brow. That this is even a question is testament to Marxist trickery.

If it is permanently established that each man is obligated to the sweat of his own brow (and nothing more) to be allocated at his personal discretion, and Marxism is eradicated, away goes the greatest conflict of our time.
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>>139310944
>80,000 replies
Leave
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>>139311680
>Representative
>Democracy
The choice is yours fag
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>>139311844
I think All Lives Matter is sort of a branch of that exact idea. It just wasn't done on purpose. It was a subconscious and collective "wait a minute."
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>>139312106
You're also falling for your enemy's bullshit.
These symbols terrify them.
Do you think Vlad Tepes liked looking at impaled muslims and Janisaries?
No. He liked the horror it caused them.
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>>139307395
So a bunch of normies not covered in tatoos and smoking meth is beta? looking back at that rally it was the first time i think i have ever seen those kinds of numbers for something like that. Instead of random embarrassing hillbilly's and shit you have nice looking clean cut guys doing their thing. Which i suspect is why the next day there was a convenient car accident that only killed 1 and hurt a few but not so damaging as to scare off left support and attendance at rallies.
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>>139300099
Op is coal burning kike
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>>139311400
Nah. I don't watch tv. The similarities to nazi era rallies was too obvious, which could easily scare people away who are otherwise distancing themselves from the left
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>>139311815
Good points all in all.

I do hope open and democratized technologies may peacefully disrupt government institutions by rendering them obsolete before things come to a head, if similar cannot be accomplished through privatization and deregulation.
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>>139300099
Preserving your nation's borders and stability isn't radicalization you faggot.
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>>139300099
Nothing will make you more racist than time in prison. I find my hate has shifted towards white leftists though. I truly hate those cucks with my entire being. I think I could go full SS, kill them and feel nothing.
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>>139312796
You'd think watching the World Trade Center falling would make the western nations exterminate Islam,
but guess what... It made them too afraid to fight.
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>>139309402
Art of War by Sun Tzu, you are my true hero today anon
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>>139300099
I've been on this website for 5 years and I'm still a centrist.
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>>139312441
You don't necessarily need a democracy for transitions of this nature to occur, though things do seem to transition to democracy with time.
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>>139300099
>that picture
hello FBI
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>>139300269
>Same. It turns out liberals don't actually care about progressive politics, only about importing a new people (who also happen to want revenge on me for being white) so that they can reap the fruits of a permanent supermajority. There's nothing conservative about not wanting to be demographically replaced.
Spot fucking on. In other words the side which presented itself as "the good guys" turns out to be just as power-hungry, selfish, and intent upon getting theirs and getting their way as they said "the bad guys" are. Horrible.

>>139309037
>It's funny, even as a Democrat I was very concerned that Democrat dominance without a viable Republican party to criticize it and keep it in check could result in the Democrat/Liberal establishment becoming corrupt and wayward.
I wish my retarded normie friends understood this.

>>139310640
>prudent organic self-organization of society protected by a small government that gives no handouts seems the most realistic way to cultivate a healthy and cohesive society.
I'd have to agree. But how to create that?

>>139309652
>Also, public marches are contraproductive, they're just giant honeypots. People in the past would kill for something like the internet which can subvert and spread ideas much faster.
Agree. Spencer has been on the web a long time but I don't think he's a competent propagandist. And even if he's not working for them, he isn't nearly as smart as he fancies he is.

>>139309402
Exactly. I think Trump knows this stuff; we'll see if he achieves what I hope he will but he really does seem to "get" the necessary strategic thinking.

Wondering about that outfit of Barron's. Sometimes I suspect Trump's wife is more right wing than he is. Never forget where she grew up--under Communism.

>>139310986
>trying to build a white ethnostate with the current population of cucked, self-hating whites would be like trying to start a dance party at a morgue.
top fucking kek and accurate
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>>139300593
What was your reason today?
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>>139300099

i was pro-Obama both times he was up for election and now im 100% 14/88 white nationalist

sick of the media targeting me (white male) 24/7 so i became their worst enemy
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Started off libertarian, but I'm just about ready to start throwing these antifa commies from helicopters myself. Heil Hitler.
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>>139312962
NOW you talking like a true fascist!
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>>139300099
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>>139313313
He's just saying that for effect, anon.
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>>139311718
I think we should try to look for political solutions before we go full accelerationist. I don't want a race war, and electing Trump was the first step towards actually fixing things.
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>>139300099
I used to be a moderate that voted for Trump because Cruz didn't win. I went all the way to top right after a month of riots after the election.
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>>139312600
They aren't terrified by the symbols, it's what they expect, symbols are totally instrumentalized by your enemy. It's what the cameras want to capture, what gets pity points if you find them sprayed on a synagogue.
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>>139300099
>the only way I can survive is if I swing right
>a Californian
>survive

Really? Where would you like to be shot?
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>>139313079
Without getting too far off topic, our leaders Are too afraid to fight islam. The west is hoping muslims integrate, and the muslims are simply buying time to multiply
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>>139313578
You know, right, you retarded fuck, that there are millions of Republicans in CA? You want to get shot, try your shit in the valley.
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>>139313578
Lined up by the thousands against a wall in Moscow please! For the glory of perfect communism.... right?
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>>139310944
>blatantly obvious lies
Right, because personal politics never change, and when they do the stereotype is shifting left with age. I guess it's like Winston Churchill said
>Any man who is under 30, and is not a conservative, has not brains; and any more who is over thirty, and not a full blown socialist, is a fucking bootlicking Nazi bigot shitlord who needs to die.
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>>139313268
>I'd have to agree. But how to create that?

Drastically diminishing the size of the government, which unfortunately is much easier said than done, given the sheer number of interests with fingers in the pie.

After accomplishing it, the pressing question is how to prevent the government from growing again.
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>>139300099
Just remember liberalism can be a mental illness
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>>139300099
Yes. I'm a lifelong libertarian, but this shit has been driving me more and more right. I've seen this social justice cancer infect way too many, where you can't even have a decent conversation bc someone is waiting to nitpick your words to get offended, to use a strawman to misinterpret an issue. I've always been "socially liberal" in the sense that I support letting people do whatever they choose so long as it's not harming others, but I can't get behind this collectivist far left antifa garbage. Not to mention how this whole "Nazis and fascists are everywhere!" shit reeks so bad of controlled opposition, of a narrative the establishment wants us to eat up-these days being alt right is being counterculture, to support TRUE freedom and TRUE free speech(including fringe groups, the offensive, etc) is the true stand against the system

Pol, ganergate, the internets, etc better represent actual freedom than anything these leftie morons will ever push, their end goal is a collective gulag pc dystopia where feels can shut down freedom
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>>139300099
>Is anyone else being pushed further to the right because of this AntiFa+Mainstream media bullshit? I used to be somewhat liberal but lately I feel like the only way I can survive is if I swing right. This is fucked up, I'm a Californian I'm not supposed to be thinking this way. Is this what a red pill is?

Hello me!
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>>139300099
My whole fucking country is getting pushed to the right on a daily thanks to the blackening of the west.
Every colleague from university, friend or school mate that comes back - I ask them why and the tldr answer is kebab and niggers.
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>>139300099
I was already right wing but I will say many of my dem friends are abandoning the left and honestly it isn't good. The fact that the left will be radical and the right will be still the right isn't good,we need left leaning views that aren't crazy to counterbalance the right and with the dnc being extremists it will keep us from functioning properly
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>>139313578
>Californian commiefag
>owning guns

That's some funny shit right there.
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Californian also here.

I've been NatSoc for a long time and have hated Antifa for a little over half a decade. Recently I'm seeing pro Antifa posts and I'm rather disappointed in my friends and their friends.

Just the other day, someone posted an article or shared image about the rallies being cancelled. People openly said they were disappointed because they wanted to smash Nazi skulls or some shit. This pretty much made me assume those people were Antifa members. Then again, the bar these people hang at is crawling with them.

Regardless, those friends that are becoming more sympathetic or even becoming Antifa won't get much mercy if war broke out. They made their beds and can lay in them.

Also, this is how people became radicalized.

>Normal people
>SJW shit becomes maisntream circa 2010-11
>SJW builds up
>Bernie bullshit
>Full-on virtue signalling with trannies and drag associated friends (friends of friends)
>A few FUCK TRUMP shit (Not a fan of Trump myself, but virtue-signalling is gay)
>Antifa causing problems day after day (endless list of criminal activities beyond protesting)
>Nobody reacts much
>Fake Nazis start shit in Charlottesville
>Everyone loses their shit and goes full Antifa mode and considers Nazis a greater threat than ISIS, Jews, Antifa, BLM, MS13, Bloods, Crips, or even rapists.
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>>139314045
The media will keep quite once antifa takes up arms. Assange talked about it. It's a matter of time before they do some dumb shit.
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>Is anyone else being pushed further to the right because of this AntiFa+Mainstream media bullshit?
are you too stupid to realize that that is their goal? lol. you are like babies.
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>>139314483
>flyover state hillbilly thinks Californians don't have guns

Visit east Oakland and laugh it up, faggot
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>>139307087
This is what happened in weimar germany, the communists gained overall support but lost because the general public hated them enough to switch parties.
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>>139314660
>That's their goal

It's not working. It's just causing a far-left gestapo against anyone not like them. The virtue-signalling on Facebook has reached maximum overdrive. The entire shit show with Charlottesville was a massive blow against anyone Nationalist, Fascist, National Socialist, etc. A deliberate staged shitshow to make those TRUE types look bad to prevent anyone in the future of possibly resurrecting those beliefs, and Jews will fight tooth and nail with propaganda to make sure.

Why do you think KKK is full of CIA? Why do you think NSM is nothing but paid LARPer rednecks who'd do anything for a few dollars? Why do you think Identity Europa and the "alt-right" is comprised of Jewish people?
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>>139314843
That's quite a small number. Those people don't really own anything fancy. I've been to the ghetto and the most exotic thing you'll find are magazines beyond the legal amount which were imported from Nevada. If someone owns something full-auto, that guy is not from around here and is a minority, even among hood thugs.
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>tfw kind of want to be a nazi not becaue I really care about the ideology but because it would just really make all these stupid leftists mad
I don't even usually care enough to do this stuff but man I am getting annoyed.
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>>139300099
go look at r/halo right now. it's the only subreddit I visit, but they're currently shitting on SJWs in their top thread, and I'm beaming
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>>139315225
Difference is they're real killers. Autistic keyboard warriors aren't shit
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>>139315397
>Going to Reddit.
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>>139315538
>They're real killers.

And? There are people who aren't autistic keyboard warriors who hate Californians, Antifa, etc. that don't even browse 4chan. There are also some that do. There are people who are ex military, police officers, bikers, hunters, skinheads, nutjobs, you name it that live in other states who despise these "killers." Shit, then there's the people IN California who also hate these people.
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>>139300099

I used to be so liberal, often told friends and family about how every single republican in government is simply retarded. This was primarily because I didn't like the government dictating social values and I cared about the environment.


The left now calls people who aren't in the hivemind Nazis (dictating social values) and in real life has done just about as much as any Republican has as far as helping the planet. Liars.
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>>139315054
You've fallen for the hyper mode demoralization campaign. It's exactly the same as Muh Russia. It's all bullshit. They're fucking scared.

Charlottesville was a win. The overreaction of the media, the politicians who already have shit approval ratings, and Antifa are waking up the normies. It's like a mother screaming "DON'T WAKE THE BABY" two feet from the crib.
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>>139316041
I don't see how chaos is a win. This is Kekistani-level thinking. Chaos doesn't mean only right-wing chimp outs. The other side gets to play too.
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>>139300099
I'm right where with you, hell last election in Canada I voted NDP (socialist party) now two years later I fucking hate the left.
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>>139316270
I legitimately hope we don't circle back around to the left side of that picture. That's the one thing I'm afraid of in this cultural paradigm shift.
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>>139316824
They say history always repeats itself. Next time I'd like for us to learn from mistakes.
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>>139300099
>Is this what a red pill is?
You're being given a second chance. Take it and you continue. Don't take it and you end. Live or die, make your choice.
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>>139300099
In the exact same boat my dude! just embrace the darkness...
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>>139316211
>Chaos doesn't mean only right-wing chimp outs.
That's exactly my point. The left is chimping out. They've been pushed to suggesting the removal of Mt Rushmore and the Washington Monument. White babies are now nazis. They cannot contain.
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>>139316824
>>139317122
We can, if we just NEVA FORGUT this timeline. I think that they will skip along to the next big thing, when it comes.
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>>139300099
>This is fucked up, I'm a Californian I'm not supposed to be thinking this way.
Is this how commiefornians view politics?
Collectivists are literally fucking cancer. You motherfuckers destroy every economy you infest, and you spread and breed like rats.
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>>139300099
oh absolutely.
my mom who thought of herself as absolutely democrat and who hated republicans for a long time AND was actually serious about racial inequality and cried about it and shit... even she said about some shitheel of a black reporter "OH GET THAT STUPID FUCKING NIGGER OFF THE TV"

everyone can see it. everyone is getting upset by it. we all know its nothing but lies and manipulation and every day as time goes on more and more people silently decide to become the monsters they insisted we are this whole time
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>>139300099
You're a faggot is what you are.
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>>139300099
I hate Nazis and love Jews but antifa is so fucking annoying I just want mitt Romney to be president now even though I'm a Bernie bro
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>>139300099
I was once liberal in my younger years. Yet I started to embrace the right years ago. It just took a while to take off my rose tinted glasses and see the people of this world for who they really are. Especially after Paris it really shook me.
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>>139317917
I think the Islam pill was the first redpill for a lot of us former liberals. Especially since a lot of us were probably pro-gay and got a bad case of cognitive dissonance from the Orlando shooting.
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>>139317320
>They've been pushed to suggesting the removal of Mt Rushmore and the Washington Monument

Since when?
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>>139317772
You're homo or bi aren't you.
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Le bump.
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>>139300099
>tfw OP is a fellow Californian
>tfw the redpill hita Californians the hardest because they've seen it all
>tfw
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>>139300099
I used to be full libshit sjw and then Bernie started dropping hints about the military industrial complex and the mass media machine, then I got into that Chomsky shit and dank ass anarcho capitalism memes, then the email leak happened and I learned that the DNC is a corrupt corporate organization, and shillery was warhawking corporate politician that's completely unaware of the meme lingo. I began to question the lame stream media after reading "manufactured consent" and through a good amount of "research" I came to the conclusion taxes really are theft. Then I began to have questions about Seth Rich and that led me to Alex Jones. And naturally I went through the shit feed pipe of memes ifunny-instagram-r/dankmemes-r/thedonald-/pol/ . After a few months of getting pretty cozy here I then watched the zeitgeist and began looking into the Israeli lobby. That brought me to a good set of right wing conspiracy channels like truthstream media and American intelligence media. Recently I've began watching Murdock Murdock and I now understand the appeal of white nationalism. And to think I could've ever been so blind..
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>>139300099
If you only turn to the right cause you see how fucked up the left is, youre a coward. You should be right for the right reasons and not cause of despair.
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>>139310651
Funny that, I'm a mongrel but I identify as white. Unfortunately, I don't look it.
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>>139300099
I've always had a subtle admiration of fashy aesthetics and militarism; but the recent movements of the left in the US (being anti-white as fuck) has made be go full 1488.
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>>139300099
my friends and hwole family and wife have become right wing more and more over time. The only people in my family that arent are my brother in law and my father in law. Both of which eat up MSM, if they do get online for news not on TV they stupidly go to Reddit expecting free speech. Its a matter of time before the anti white sentiment pushes them right wing aswell.
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>>139314843
Texas here, laffin at yer cucked ass.
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>>139316824
I think it's easier on kids to deal with parents who "just don't get it" than for young men to deal with peers who are fucking insane.
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>>139308517
There was literally people turning up at Charlottesville with brand new Confederate and NSDAP flags right out of the packaging, still bearing creases. They were obviously infiltrators, there to give the media the shots they wanted, to push their agenda.

No, we need to do what they did, but consciously and with assertion (because time is short); infiltrate key services and turn them to our agenda. The most important of which is the media; because that can bring lethal pressure against any emergent philosophy they don't like. If we can crush the dinosaur media, we have a pretty good chance of being able to then push more openly.

Give us normie-safe anti-media memes, and we can bury them
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>>139301153
Hilldawg supporters are literal normies, they think governments are inherently good, and that nothing was wrong with the status quo.

Bernie supporters around me are 100% athiest, think government is actually good, and that anything conservative is backward. They dont believe in muh jew conspiracies either hence why they back socialist jew bernie sanders.

Honestly i hate Bernie supporters far more then Hilary supporters.
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>>139309320
No, they were always biased, but the editors and journalists had a much higher standard of literacy and were able to lean with a lot more subtlety.
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>>139300269
This is pretty much spot on. In many ways, I hold liberal beliefs on the environment and economic policy. However, I fail to see how importing millions of people year and year out helps the environment. i fail to see how it supports a stable social system that can support the current citizenry. On top of all that, it drives down wages, especially when we swamp the system with immigrants based on family connections rather than a merit-based system.

Liberals and progressives than continuously scream about inequality. Meanwhile, New York City has the most segregated school system in the country and San Francisco is the most unequal city. Silicon Valley has over 30 percent HIspanic/Black population but only employs around 5 percent of that in tech.

In short, these people are not progressive or liberal. They just want to virtue signal and dominate. It's time we saw them for what they are.
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>>139300099
That's been the way for past 5y now.
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i onow the jew wants me to be far left or far right.. so ill continue to tell everyone to stop this bullshit and be called a cuck on here and called a nazi by my leftie frienda irl
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>>139324128
i dont agree.. most bernie supoorts see him as a break from the status quo like trumo supoorts do for trumo.. difference is bernie wasnt a raving morom who pandered to pol even more moronic than he. if u still supoort trump after what he has done as a president fornhis base (nothing) than you are no better than a hillary supporte
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>>139325608
>>139325971
Anon are you okay
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>>139325971
He is a socialist jew, he panders to communsits and antifa, and BLM, history warns us of people like him, and his red revolution. Just look at the Weimar. History will repeat itself if someone like him comes to power, the financial insanity he will usher in in combination with the vast number of people who will utterly reject him and his socialism will create the most volatile, and perhaps even violent political strife this nation has ever seen. If you think its bad now, just wait till the reds come to power.
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>>139311485
the fuck happened March 1st '17?

oh wait. Shia?
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>>139300269
>There's nothing conservative about not wanting to be demographically replaced
Thanks bro
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>>139300696
but unity is weakness
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>>139300099
They already pushed me too far when I was still in school (I am close to 40 years now).

German school system is really trying its best to indoctrinate the pupils into the current system. But it is so much over the top that it is obvious.

I didn´t radicalize so quick. But i started to question everything they were trying to force down my throat.

At first I didn´t care that much about hiding my power level and e.g. refused to read outright commie literature and demanded something else. A girl in my German class even asked me if I was a Nazi because she just could not imagine that somebody who is not a Nazi would question our teachers choice of literature. It was most of the time commie literature about Nazi atrocities.

Since I got higher education I didn´t become a skinhead or similar subhuman scum. In my case I used my spare time for example to play my grandfathers accordion with traditional marching tunes (wich I still do to get comfy).
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>>139308453
>Maybe this is how Nazis were made, anon.
Well, yes. Kinda. The SA, more or less precursor to the infamous SS, was founded for one simple reason. The communists were attacking anything that was two shades shy of red. Any conservative event, was stormed by some of them, wielding weaponry. They basically instigated a low-key civil war. Anybody not already agreeing to communism, was pushed to the right, which displayed in about double the seats for the NSDAP at the next vote.
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>>139300099

the feeling of leaving that degenerate liberal-marxist cult is the best.

but you being to feel lonely.
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>>139300099
My girlfriend has always been redpilled but kept her power levels hidden.These last few months however have been different. She is noticing more and more of her friends either changing to the right, or just revealing they have always been right but kept quiet.

There was a festival down here in Portsmouth over this weekend.. She was sat in a beer tent and everyone seemed to be talking about freedom of speech, too much immigration, jews, etc. These were young people and Portsmouth is a University town - lots of students.
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>>139300696
>Canadian
>That flag

Truly a shitposter
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>>139330361
You may feel lonely, but you never are brother.
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>>139300720
This doesn't work. Liberals in California are still Antifa-tier and they hate Hillary. They still support Bernie like retards, even though he sold their asses out. The only people who openly supported Hillary in CA are Boomer-aged feminist Jewish women and old grouchy lesbians who are also Jewish.
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>>139300099
I get pushed closer and closer to an alliance with the people I was told my whole life are "the bad guys." I'm not and never will be a racist but leftists have gotten so far out of hand that I'd rather side with racists over them. To leftists, I'd just get lumped in with racists anyways, so I may as well ally with them due to having a common enemy. Commies are a scourge.
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>>139300099
No, people start radicalising both ways, more commies and fascists
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>>139300099
I started out left leaning but apathetic overall. Seeing my friends and other people around my age buying into the existence of the white male patriarchy, complaining that movies don't have a proportional representation of people from every race, and supporting the existence of welfare AND sanctuary cities made me realize how pants on head insane the social and political discourse has become. All of this has, ironically for them, only reaffirmed and secured my radicalizing belief in right wing politics.
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>>139301153
Hilldos are either totally clueless or beyond saving.
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My politics are still on both sides depending on the issue, but I will not ally with the modern liberal anymore. Even when I agree with them I want them to lose because they're are so repulsive as people.
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>>139301332
This unfortunately.
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>>139305848
But when you're right, you're right....
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>>139310580
>The whole process can take 5-10 years because you're fighting against it the entire time
At the same time, 5-10 years is an incredibly short amount of time for large swaths of people to privately adopt a radically different worldview. The historical parallel would be large subsets of the population privately adopting a new religion within a comparatively short amount of time, which has usually taken generations or been catalyzed by a government or invading army. It's been pointed out before that Spenglerian civilization cycle seems accelerated in our era, and I can't help but think that mass communication has a role to play in that, allowing quicker shifts to new equilibria.
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>>139314204
Is that so? I was left under the impression that a lot of them bring those cancerous (((leftist ideologies))) back home with them
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>have to work with several lefty normies
>every day just smile and try to ignore the dumb politcal shit they talk about
>"ANON, DID YOU HEAR, TRUMPS GETTING IMPEACHED ANY DAY NOW!"
>"I CANT WAIT TILL TRUMPS ASSASINATED!."
>"HEY ANON, DID YOU KNOW THEY HAVE EXPERTS EXAMINING TRUMPT TO SEE IF HES EVEN MENTALLY FIT TO BE PRESIDENT? HE'LL GET KICKED OUT ANY DAY NOW!"

One of them ALMOST got redpilled. Almost. But for whatever reason he just wont accept the truth.

>back when that "refugee crisis" shit was first starting up
>"Oh anon, the poor refugees, theya re poeple too. They should be taken in by bigger countries. They need help!"
>repat that shit for months
>suddenly canada takes in refugees
>refugees get put into a house next door to him
>he sounds excited about it
>week later
>he fucking hates them
>says they are basically animals
>trashed the house they got placed into
>let their kids just rampage through the neighborhood
>he fucking hates refugees now and knows its all a lie and they are just fucking niggers looking for gibs
>they get kicked out
>house gets fixed up and normal family moves in
>he immediatley goes back into full lefty mode
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>>139300099
soon
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>>139300099

This is what ((they)) want. If they can incite civil war they can do away with the free press, democratic process and national values that made America great and replace them with god knows what.

>"Within the United States itself, there is a need for the Russian special services and their allies “to provoke all forms of instability and separatism within the borders of the United States (it is possible to make use of the political forces of Afro-American racists)” (p. 248). “It is especially important,” Dugin adds, “to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics…” (p. 367)."
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>>139332603
>he immediatley goes back into full lefty mode
Fuck me, I know what this is like. My own father swirls around the truth all the time but never quite hits the mark and always slips back into leftist fallacies. It's so frustrating to watch a person be so close, to the point where the answer is right under their nose, and to continually miss it nonetheless and learn nothing from the endeavor. It's as you said, they deliberately miss the truth, because the truth is taboo. They delude themselves deliberately.
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>>139300099

Welcome to the alt right. Most of us just got pushed here into defending ourselves.
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>>139311128
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>>139311666
Checked to hell
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>>139332813
>values that made America
What made America great was a its population with a high racial potential in combination with a highly meritocratic political system which incentivised for that potential to be expanded on while punishing all negative traits in society and thus meaning less subhumans from within.
Stop with this "muh democracy" larping
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>>139330342
You're thinking of the Freikorps, who acted as militias in their struggle against "Free Socialist Republic of Germany".
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Some go full right some go full left.

The middle ground is lost. Just like the middle class is being lost.
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>>139332813
>This is what ((they)) want. If they can incite civil war they can do away with the free press, democratic process and national values that made America great and replace them with god knows what.


The Civil War is the only solution. Either Whites return their freedom and establish White Ethnostate in America (on in a part of America) or they will be eventually democratically ripped of their rights.
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>>139300099
It's natural. When things escalate, everybody has to fall into one of the two buckets. Left or right. It's the reason why centrism is a meme. When violence is erupting and tensions are high, people have to sit down and actually think about where they stand. For you and many other fence-sitters, they're not willing to trade fists to win the war of ideas. That doesn't mean you have to swallow any pills, it just means you're a rational human being despite being misguided and misinformed. Whatever your 'liberalism' is supposed to mean doesn't matter, because you're on our side for now. When the right wins, we will get back to shitting on you about your cancerous gay pride movements. And you will get back to sitting on Jose's fat cock and opposing the free market until tensions rise again.
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>>139300099
I don't know about you but this image is 100% me
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>>139300099

Kek. Yeah, I'm an anarchist and I want to genocide all the antifas.
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>>139324049
i hope that the thing about the flags and such has circulated the right circles. these people should be sent away from any protests as soon as they show up, especially if it both harms the cause and is obviously fabricated.
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I used to be a left leaning centrist but now I'm in favour of ethnic cleansing. Nazism is still silly though.
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>>139333953
Not just, troughout the entire weimar republic communist subhumans incited by evil kikes would attack anything that was left of stalin (even the social democrats). Eventually Germans got tired of leftist terrorism and turned to the NSDAP which were the only ones saying commie scum should all be exterminated. The kikes and their subhuman leftist useful idiots are going to turn the normies against themselves just like they did last time. Because kikes are completely incapable of self-reflection they always end up making the same mistakes.
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>>139334302
I think anarchism is a joke, but you and me will get along just fine.
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>>139334330
What don't you like about nazism?
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>>139334365

This is what antifa don't get. You can get along with people you disagree with.
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>>139325971

I agree with this. From the start of the primaries all I wanted to see was either Berning the Establishment or Trumping the Establishment.

They cheated Bernie and dug their grave.
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>>139301537
Ask them if the people in Tibet or smaller islands in Indonesia being purposefully bred out of existence is genocide or not. If yes, so is this shit.
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Here, independent voter who got tired to the P.C.
Now antifa goes to vandalize and destroy any Main st. And the media just ignores it.
They came here, cops did nothing, still people now despises more the left afterwards.
By the way, I am latino, first gen citizen, Ohio voter.
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Read BB comments and tell me people aren't far right now.
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>>139311265
Probably look like this too people.
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>>139332898
if they're family always tell them the truth.
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>>139300099
Is anyone on /pol/ clever enough to somehow turn BLM against ANTIFA to create a war between the two?
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>>139334595
Until the Spanish civil war or race war 2.0 hits off. Or you get annaxed by the Soviets ala Ukraine
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>>139308792
Be disarming...

I look like
>>139334895
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>>139300099
Nice digits.
Not so nice 1 post by this ID so sage.
The battle between globalists and anti-globlism will be win when one of the sides will win the masses of normies.
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>>139307506
It really is bizarre that "treating people who are different differently" has become the paramount definition of evil today.
To be called racist in our society is the same as being called a heretic, or a satanist in times past. To the point that it will shut down all rational discussion.
I'll give the jews one thing, they know their memetics.
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>>139300099
I've been pushed far enough to the right that I wholeheartedly believe leftists should be stripped of their Constitutional rights. It should also be legal to hunt them down and kill them.
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Sadly I've seen my friends go full antifa/SJW. One of them is a Israel loving neocon who got angry because none of the people on his friends list were vocally denouncing "the nazis" at charlotesvile. The girlfriend of his brother was quite smart but then went to university in a liberal city and now she's heavily into identity politics and her boyfriend (brother of the first guy) is the kind of guy who just does believes whatever they tell him to.
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>>139301776
Not caring about non whites is not necessarily a right wing view point, it's a common sense view point.
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>>139300099
There is only one reaction, one with any sense at all, that you can have watching literal communist/anti-americans gather and chant in the streets.
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>>139334595
Unfortunately they never get past that initial posturing phase where you have your open disagreement just before you compromise and acquaint with eachother.
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>>139300099
Yes, that is exactly what a red pill is.
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>>139301153

Mate you are in the ideal place there. If you talk to him, do it publicly. Its not about redpilling him, but the others who listen to you two. If he acts like a childy this will make him look very bad to others. Use it.
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>>139312037
lol, that's how i feel
my friends all assume i'm racist and stuff which to me is really retarded, I definitely don't feel racist or discriminating to a whole group of people

but for some reason stating facts about things rich Jewish people have done makes me anti-semetic, same with if i speak against media propaganda about Trump, people seem to assume i'm some kind of far right racist lol

I am far from a racist though, I couldn't really care too much if people came and moved to my country from anywhere, but if they start demanding my country change or breaking laws, then i want them to fucking get deported straight away, there's nothing racist about that

all the dumb SJW dickheads who ignore peoples crimes and act as though they're standing up for these other types of people make me sick & the constant lies about Trump and propaganda garbage has just over time made me get some sort of strong feeling of support for the guy. I just have a real hard time with people falling for fake bullshit they are told in the media without seeing the bigger picture & because most people are stupid as fuck and don't know anything about the bigger picture, they assume you're just some conspiracy theorist or just pass you off as some ignorant racist lmao
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>>139302653
>I call it the inhumanity of the left.
I'm stealing that.
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>>139300099
>pushed to the right
No I am not. Nowhere on the left-right spectrum there is a place that wants to reduce the power of government or abolish it completely. With current technologies government is not only redundant, but dangerous to our freedom. Our freedom to exchange information is already restricted. It's not much time left before we lose our freedom to think whatever we want. Information bubble around us is already carefully constructed by central power and it's hard to escape it, soon it will be illegal to do so.
That said globalism is fine and we should not support national governments, it's further centralization that is evil. We must not allow world government to become reality.
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>>139300099
After Charlottesville anything antifa does outside of a literal terrorist attack wont make moderates go back to the right.
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>>139334503
The concept of lebensraum is a garuantee to go to war over what I don't consider a good reason. Also I've known a few neo-nazis and they were the typical scum of the earth idiot. So that may put me off a bit too
As far as governmental structures go I can think of a lot worse though. Like communism.
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>>139310944
You must be shilling or being deliberately obtuse.
The media lied, the DNC lied, the celebrity creatures lied, billions of dollars were spent to make it the official narrative that Trump had no chance. Yet he won the election, how was that possible!?
So many eyes were opened, those same eyes now see Antifa being held up as freedom fighters when they're actually Commie thugs paid by special interests to quell dissent.
I have hated the RNC my entire adult life, but came over for Trump because the liberals really ARE that disgusting and insufferable.
It's really not too hard to understand.
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>>139335699
>The concept of lebensraum is a garuantee to go to war over what I don't consider a good reason
Hitler was just regaining his lost ww1 land, and even if so the Poles were going to have to choose to ally with Germany or the Soviets. We can't all live all happy lives. Also if you look at the historical context of it all every European nation had vast colonies all but Germany. Even fucking Belgium had some and the British owned 23.7% of the entire Earth. Germany was stuck in Germany surrounded by foreign powers which wanted them back on the international trading scheme

Even today the strong rule and the weak suffer. Tibet,Ukraine, Palestine.

No one likes Neo Nazi's but do you judge libertarians and ancap because of Alex Jones and a few guinely retarded tin foil hat people. I don't mean to come up like a arse here but you sound quite uneducated on actual policies the Nazi's had in place
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>>139310944
Haven't you heard about that commie that burned his manifesto over the /mlpol/ mural on the pixelcanvas? Its interesting to hear about people that completely change their world view over a revelation
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>>139336041
I don't think the war was unjustified, I mean I think conquering more, additional land for the sake of "living space" is not a good reason. Retaking rightful clay is legit by my book.
I understand wars can benefit a nation but I still think it's playing with fire when you work it into a doctrine like that. And when looking at the power structure of Nazi Germany I think the potential for the wrong people to get too much power is too great.
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>>139336412
>And when looking at the power structure of Nazi Germany I think the potential for the wrong people to get too much power is too great.
Could say the same thing about any Republic that grants emergency powers to a military leader. Could say the same thing about pretty much any western republic that exists today. I think what you're afraid of is the power of populism in a Republic, and how the Tyranny of the Majority can legally empower a legitimate Despotic Tyrant.
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>>139335757
Emilia Clarke?
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>>139336973
>Emilia Clarke
Fuck, I saw it too. More like her retarded cousin, "Emil Cucke", though.
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>>139336412
>I don't think the war was unjustified, I mean I think conquering more, additional land for the sake of "living space" is not a good reason.
No one really thinks that. I'm certain Dutch Nazi's aren't about to invade France cause muh land. You've got to look at the historical context. Germany had all it's colonies taken, heaps of it's land lost and even Belgium had huge land in Africa.

> And when looking at the power structure of Nazi Germany I think the potential for the wrong people to get too much power is too great.
Same for democracies, since their hardly the best. The media chooses the leaders. No media = no votes

Ruling members of society would come from outstanding individuals from the community. Not Joe the banker who can bribe and is good with a tongue but bad with foreign polices. I think your looking at the "living space" wrongly. It's not about conquering the world for land
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>>139334923
Considering most of the antifags are upper or middle class spoiled white brats it would seem at first an obvious choice
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>>139332898
You've missed the point. They don't care about facts or truth, they care spot their feelings. They'll rage under adversity, but the moment that clears up its back to fellating their ego.
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>>139330885
>I'm not and never will be a racist
Well, thank God for that.
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>>139300099
The Media are causing this.
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>>139337845
My constitution and a few of my guns will protect me. I mean look at Rhodesia and South Africa, they turned out great when Whites lost power and became much more less racist.
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>>139305296
>I dropped the holocoaust pills.
OY VEY!!!!!!!
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>>139337845
The state of simply "not being racist" is not the same as being a full blown "REFUGEES WELCOME" faggot. I'm not opposed to the idea of a white ethnostate and have no problem acknowledging racial differences in IQ and behavior, I just don't go full retard about it and blindly hate anyone who isn't my race even if they aren't doing anything.
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>>139338784
>Turned out great
What are you on Anon?
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>>139300099
Those are some great digits and your transformation is equally exciting.
Welcome to pol
You'll never go back.
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>>139317562
>everyone can see it. everyone is getting upset by it. we all know its nothing but lies and manipulation
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>>139339021
Don't be racist now. My libertarian government and a few guns will protect me.
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>>139339014
Considering they all hate you, it does make sense to do so. Non-whites (with the exception of some Asians) are the Jew's stormtroopers against the white race, he lies to them all he wants about us and agitates tribes with abysmal intellegence against us for his own benefit (often accusing us on his own crimes aka chutspah)
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