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/ANTIFA/ ANTIFASCIST ACTION GENERAL

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Fighting the fight our forefathers started

Who are we and what do we believe?
Antifa is a political movement which opposes fascism, racism, sexism, antisemitism, capitalism and homophobia in direct action.

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>>139286898
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How do you, Anarchists and Communists, feel being tools to the German master plan?

Karl Marx and Adolf Hitler came from the same country with the same intentions.

You are just as bad as Hitler and all the German Emperors that came before them.

The Germans almost have all of European countries under their control using European Union. Soon they will take the world.

Abandon Communism and Nazism while you can.
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>>139293388
you will be remembered by history as the kids that were paid by a billionaire to burn trash cans in other peoples cities. you are the KKK of the 2000's.
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>>139293388
wud iz andifa?????

andifa iz a bolidigal bowel mobemend widge promodes homoseggs, benis in anus :DDD, gommunizm, aids, and no burgers :DDD in diregd agdion to ur anus :DDD. Dhe original group Andifashy Agdion wuz founded in 30s krautland and wuz dhestroyed by Adolf Bidler :DDD.

why dhe fug :DD are we on /pol/ ????

/pol/ iz an inderned hod pogged for eberyding we obbose dherefor id iz only nadural for us homos to gome here to bring u aidz and benis in anus :DDD.

geep bashing dhe benis :DDDDDDD
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>>139293419
Germans are smart, I trust them
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>>139293596
kill yourself loser
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>>139293509
wrong. we will be hailed as heros once the communist revolution comes. I might even get a statue for my work here
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>>139293388
I really don't get the point of hating fascism. I got myself into trouble with guys like you but I don't even consider myself a fascists. I share some ideas though, basically traditionalism, the idea that races exist, traditional gender roles, etc.

Needles to say I wooped his ass. It was actually weird, the 18 years old kid tried to attack me even when I tried to reason with him. Even when I tried to hit him soft, his nose exploded in a cloud of blood...
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>>139293388
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>>139293509
niggers have big noses, hard skulls, weaker chins, wooly hair and small brains because they have less evolutionary distance to the chimpanzee than the rest of the worlds races
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Reminder to sage, report and ignore reddit spam.
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>>139293721
races that evolved in jungle climates are less intelligent and less hard working (industriosness) because they did not have to make long term preparations to survive the winter
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i don't understand how you retards keep replying to these threads

they're literally just bait and exist to make a mockery of anybody who posts in it.

the best way to get rid of these threads is to just not reply and ignore them lmao
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>>139293388

Fuck fake Anarchist antifa
Fuck Political Correctness
Fuck your rules
Fuck your State
Fuck Authoritarianism
Fuck you collectivism
Fuck your gulags
Fuck your collective culture
Fuck your mindless sheep

I am an individual that doesn't want to be mind fucked.
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>>139293721
t.56%
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>>139293707
This you?
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Sage all terrorist threads
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>>139293692
that's what your limp wristed organizers tell you, but the public sees you for what you are, paid agitators that could potentially be charged with domestic terrorism soon. good guys don't hide their faces and assault people.

you are the bad guys.
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>>139293388
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>>139293880
that joke of a petition will never be taken seriously by the government
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Here forever :DDDDDD

Who are we and what do we believe?
Andifa is a polidical movemend which obboses fascism (everyone i don't like :DDDD), racism (everyone i don't like :DDDD), sexism (everyone i don't like :DDDD), antisemitism (everyone i don't like :DDDD), capitalism (everyone richer dan me :DDDDDD) and homophobia (everyone i don't like :DDDD) in direct action, usually by gedding bead up by niggers :DDDD.

Bashing de fash is proletariat, hail comrade lenin :DDDDDDDDDD
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>>139293388
So, what are the things you hate exactly? I actually believe in freedom. The problem I see is some people (like myself) don't have enough space to develop their own freedom. I don't care about what others do,but when I don't have a physical and cultural space to hang out with people who think like me it starts becoming a problem. In an ideal world, we woul simply live in different societies. No reason to hang out with people who don't share your views. No reason to impose your views on others either, as long as they are not a problem for your own freedom.
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>>139293839
>>139293388
Fuck your lies
Fuck your hypocracy
Fuck your gaslighting
Fuck your fake oppression
Fuck your low self-estime
Fuck your excessive emotions
Fuck your passive aggression
Fuck your guilt trips
Fuck your weak minds
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>>139293950
thats not what fascism is. are you clinically retarded?
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>>139293388
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>>139293895
whites and east asians are altruistic because in seasonally snowy climates, nuclear families needed to gather together and share the meat they hunted to survive. an average family would have a successful hunt once every two weeks, but the food went bad after three days. in a large group, the rates of successful hunts could be evened out and excess food shared to the group
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>>139293388
Sieg Heil
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>>139293388
KYS
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>>139293483
>OY VEYYY captialism is like anudder shoah goyim
>jews are just like you and (((me)))
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Bait
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>>139293692
>LARPing is fun to do on 4chan :^)
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>>139294142
Are you saying that his universalism is not genuine? Have you ever actually read anything that he has written?
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SAVE THE DATE
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face it, you just have to come to terms that you just are not as smart as us
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>>139293388
My grandfather hated commies more than Nazis.

Fuck your propaganda.
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>>139294010
ebin speech comrad :DDD
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>>139294286
these zionists are making my blood boil! exploiting land like evil capitalists!
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>>139293869
>this you?
This you?
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>>139293692
A statue lol? The only statues that exist in Communist failed states are ones of their glorious god-like dictators before they completely run their country into the ground.

>Communist revolution
kek hey 1917 called, they want their propaganda back.
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>>139294286
>Anonymous (ID: xEprdLbm) 08/27/17(Sun)22:35:48 No.139294286â–¶>>139294417
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>SAVE THE DATE
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> Anonymous (ID: X/cF2FWg) 08/27/17(Sun)22:36:03 No.139294312â–¶
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>face it, you just have to come to terms that you just are not as smart as us
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> Anonymous (ID: N0sy0vfn) 08/27/17(Sun)22:36:43 No.139294384â–¶
>>>139293388 (OP)
>My grandfather hated commies more than Nazis.
>Fuck your propaganda.
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>>>139294010
>ebin speech comrad :DDD
No
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>>139294437
You know that that image is photoshoped?
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AntiFa
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>>139294384
No offence but your grandfather was as dumb as a pile of shit.
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>>139294286
Leave the Jews alone. They have been persecuted throughout history, and they're not even white.
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>>139294384
so ...good hes dead then
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>>139294031
*hypocrisy

and is this supposed to be like some sort of rebuttal? Why are all leftists so goddamned stupid?
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>>139294676
there is literally nothing wrong with being gay
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>>139293388
I hate you weak faggots.
Nothing you do matters.
You are Oxygen thieves.
Go die somewhere else.
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>>139294723
just become a communist. its inevitable anyway
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>>139294312
Yet to see a valid rebuttal from a single commie.
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>>139294286
>>139294688
hahaha I love the power of these larpers here.

>>139294697
I'm not leftist
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>>139293692
nobody would support the diaper queer statue.
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>>139294013
There is no freedom form ideology, therefor only viable option is total war of ideologies and ours will win due to its dialectical nature.
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>>139294866
wasn't real socialism.
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>>139294676
Soo close to a combo
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>>139293388
>>139293388
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>>139293388

Antifa is responsible for eroding freedom of speech and assembly, as well as forcing down wages !

When the masses react, WE will point the finger in the right direction, mainly Antifa, the liberal press and the political establishment and their donors.
Nobody likes antifa outside of their pre bachelor degree low level pseudopolitical bubble they are in.

>Who are we and what do we believe?

I'm a marxist, not a larping antifa faggot who cries about politics issued by the elites to curb the reaction of the masses, Antifa are not only traitors to the working class, they are traitors to humanity as well.
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>>139294619
It must be nice that, at least for a second, even though it's an egregious and offensive lie of the highest order, you literal pieces of ignorant shit can latch on to one of the greatest generations and pretend for five seconds that your shallow, controlled lives aren't completely pointless.
These are the soldiers you demonize, insult, and ridicule every day of your lives until suddenly you have an opportunity to leech off of their sacrifices when the media puffs up your communist, anti-American rioting to violently silence people of opposing viewpoints.

You are parasites to the last. You make every real American sick, and you will be removed soon. Don't worry.
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>>139294963
>not realizing Socialism has never worked nor will it ever.

you want Venezuela faggot? cause that's what you'll get. although you probably don't even know where that is.
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>>139293388
Fuck off collectivist ant person
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>>139293388
>>>/a/161618420
>>>/a/161618420
>>>/a/161618420
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any
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>>139294282
>Are you saying that his universalism is not genuine?
Are you saying that his jewish identity had nothing to do with him having no conscience about destroying the white national elite and the tens of millions of Christians of his host country?
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>>139293388
if all the White soldiers of WW2, both Axis and Allied, could see their respective nations today they woulda hugged it out.
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>>139295024
Marxists get lampposted too.
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>>139295060
Venezuela is capitalism faggot.
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>>139293388

I hate to break up this little circle jerk, ladies, but you're all fucking retarded.
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What does antifa think of Based Grandpa?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it66GmDEW-8
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>>139294729
What if you're this gay? Isn't it a bit bourgeois and decadent?
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>>139293483
all fields
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Beaten by Alt-Left mob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq-ORhn3-co&feature=youtu.be
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fat
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>>139295241
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Keep it up.
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>1,000s of IP addresses and phone numbers of antifa members just handed over to DoJ and FbeeI
>getting shot in the balls at protests by cops
>getting their asses kicked anytime they leave berkeley
>fucking other dirty, degenerate druggie skanks
>hepatitis
>AIDS
>already infiltrated by the feds (where do you think all those phone numbers came from?)
>San Fransisco Chronicle just disavowed antifa: "Dangerous and Destructive"
>you're no longer "the good guys"
>people 2 to 1 say "keep confederate statues"
>Shapiro already invited back by Berkeley admin to speak (which is what started all the berkeley faggotry to begin with)
>Berkeley unironically dubbed this academic year "Free Speech Year" after media backlash and losing massive amounts of money from alumnia donations, etc.

>"We're cool and winning guys, p-p-please believe me"
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>>139295204

really, what do you know about nationalism, your a leaf.

I'm European, I'm a nationalist AND a fucking marxist. I support my own nation, and the fight against the elites that fucked over our nations with immigrants and pushed down our wages!
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>>139294963
Kek
Definition of insanity- doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome. I refuse to stand by idle while communism continues to rack up a body count.
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>>139295149
1) he was raised orthodox christian and his mothers side held aristocratic blood ties
2) saying that his acclaimed jewish origins somehow effected his politics is logical fallacy(poisoning the well[ad homnium]).
3) most of people who died during the revolution were christian for the reason that majority of tzarist Russia was christian. Lot of muslims died too during their attempt to separate form soviet union.
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>>139293388
You are poor, misguided souls who have made a deal with the Devil.

You, yourselves are fascists. You are Marxists. You are jackbooted thugs. You are what you purport to be fighting against. You are fools, and the worst kind.

I honestly feel sorry for many of you, but I won't hesitate to pull the trigger on you when the time comes. I hope many of you wise up before that happens.
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>>139295498
Rummel also estimated that 22 million died in the holocaust instead of 6 million. I would take his estimates with grain of salt.
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>>139295498
that isn't the definition of insanity though
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a political movement cannot be defined by what it opposes
idiot

also this is a fake thread created by someone who just likes getting you's and is either a moderate or holds no strong political views whatsoever
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NIGGERS
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>>139295471
>>San Fransisco Chronicle just disavowed antifa: "Dangerous and Destructive"
Gonna need to see a source on that one.
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>>139293388
Every masculine male being always sways Far right every possible value that can help a man succeed is a "Right" value. There is only selfish, contrived, con artist that lead Antifa and Leftist. The Greatest civilizations on the planet were lead by hyper-masculinity, Authoritarianism, and Moralitiy. Fasces is latin which Fascism is derived from meaning Authority. During the greatest period of Rome these were values men followed. It wasn't until the Monarchy diminished and Rome went more to a Republic that is when it started it's downfall. The fact you believe Fascism is bad only goes to show how naive you are. Dumb nigger
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>>139293388
OP is literal faggot
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thinking
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>>139295279
There is no such thing as "gay people" enjoying sodomy isn't an identity unless you try to make it one.
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>>139295762
Have you ever heard of united front tactic? Political movement can be defined by its opposition to something.
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>>139295808
Are you literally retarded? The source is right there. kek, look it up
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>>139295715

does insanity even exist to you Bourdieu lover, or will you morph the definition out of existence and hence solve the problem of insanity.

go play with your antifa establishment shills you moneygrabber, We know your game
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>>139295560
>most of people who died during the revolution were christian for the reason that majority of tzarist Russia was christian.
Was it pure coincidence that most of the people following this totally not jewish ideology happened to be jewish themselves?

>Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIeYoF1VhHc

>Winston Churchill exposes forces behind Communism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNcERXGcpEY

The Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party:

Krylenko Russian
Lounatcharski Russian
Ulyanov (Lenin) JEW
Bronstein (Trotsky) JEW
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) JEW
Lourie (Larine) JEW
Ouritski JEW
Volodarski JEW
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) JEW
Smidovitch JEW
Sverdlof (Yankel) JEW
Nakhamkes (Steklof) JEW

The Council of the People’s Commissars:

Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian
Agriculture Protian Armenian
Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
Ulyanov (Lenin) JEW
Economic Council Lourie (Larine) JEW
Food Schlichter JEW
Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) JEW
State Control Lander JEW
State Lands Kauffman JEW
Works V. Schmidt JEW
Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) JEWess
Religions Spitzberg JEW
Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) JEW
Hygiene Anvelt JEW
Finance Isidore Goukovski JEW
Press Volodarski JEW
Elections Ouritski JEW
Justice I. Steinberg JEW
Refugees Fenigstein JEW
Refugees (assist.) Savitch JEW
Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski JEW
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>>139293388
>be antifa
>get 88
>whos really the nazi?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcf9CLMQuRQ
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Fuck off cuckolds
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>>139295995
We are communists.
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Riiiight, as if Antifa know their fathers.
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>>139293388
Do you need your service animal?
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Even nan likes antifa now.
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>>139293388
Fuck your Marxism
Fuck your 'muh proletariat'
Fuck your lack of self-identity
Fuck your Fascist-style anti-fascism
Fuck your 'b-but muh hate speech'
Fuck your self-loathing
Fuck your self-censorship
Fuck your censorship on others

Live free or die
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>>139295882
100% agree.
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>>139296169
Don't joke about that. Some of us didn't grow up knowing their fathers.
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>>139293692
lmao, no you won't be heroes. You're reactionaries just like the Nazis. The vanguard will kill anarchists now just like they did in 1920 when they killed the officers of your army and made your leader Makhno flee to paris.
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the rope
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This board is called POLITICALLY IJCORRECT

Take your politically correct thought patrolling somewhere else faggot
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anyone have the Panty-Fa meme. I love that one
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any anti-anti-fa memes are funny
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>>139296286
We are reacting toward the corrupt system of capitalism is all
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bernie is a filthy kike
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>>139295560
>he was raised orthodox christian and his mothers side held aristocratic blood ties

In fact he was related by blood to the Rothschild bankers. His father was a Rabbi who obviously influenced him.

>saying that his acclaimed jewish origins somehow effected his politics is logical fallacy(poisoning the well[ad homnium]).
It's relevant because it's the basis for communism. You can't even spell "ad hominem" right. It's no coincidence that almost every communist movement or government across the globe was disproportionately Jewish, and most of the elite in the USSR was Jewish, and most of the people involved in the revolution like Trotsky and even the assassins who killed the Tsar were Jews.

>most of people who died during the revolution were christian for the reason that majority of tzarist Russia was christian
Christians were specifically targeted, genocided, churches were destroyed, because Jews hate Christianity and wanted to destroy (like Marx). Read the Talmud to see how much they Christians (they also killed Jesus).

http://youtu.be/Qa-dInQEa-4
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>>139296274
Now I know this is a bait thread.
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anti-fa takes it up the ass from blm
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>>139296274
Yeah most of you didn't, that's why you're spineless losers who weigh less than 130lbs

Fuck off communist scum. As a Mexican legal immigrant, I will crck open your fucking skulls if I ever see you in public

Fuck off back to plebbit
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and they like it
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Who keeps making these fucking threads!? Sage.
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>>139296091
Most of those people werent real.
They literally did not exsist, not in the history books, not in the party documentation etc.

For example there is no such position as peoples commissar of state control.
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>>139295701
How do you propose to do differently than all the other retarded systems of the past.
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>>139293388
> what do we believe
> opposes fascism, racism, sexism, antisemitism, capitalism and homophobia in direct action

WHAT do you BELIEVE?
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>>139296166
>We are communists.

no you're a joke.
Antifa parrots the identity politics posed by the biggest political entities in the fucking world. They support EU imperialism and slavery in other countries as long as the shipping sector keeps brining in your cheap wares and immigrant slaves to push down wages for the rich fucks.
And you love to fuck up social mobility for the working class with immigration and legislation.

Antifa would at best be a reaction to the reaction of the people (reaction against being oppressed by political decisions which affects their future).
But no, Antifa is as corrupt and neoliberal as the previous reactions in order to curb woker revolts and revolutions by the establishment.
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>>139296580
So you are a mexican who pretends he is a white nazi? you are a disgrace
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>>139296091
>Was it pure coincidence that most of the people following this totally not jewish ideology happened to be jewish themselves?

Communism predates Marx as ideology, it holds its origins in French socialism.
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>>139296471
what exactly is wrong with capitalism? is it that you actually have to put effort in to make money?
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>>139293388
You guys are such faggots, you all need to die
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>>139296507
get out of our safe space, please
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>>139296695
wrong. you misrepresented antifa entirely.
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>>139296691
Changing the subject already huh?
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this is the anti-fa we all know
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>>139295560
Do you think when the Jew Yakov Yurovsky murdered the Tsar's little girls he did it out of a sense of revolutionary fervour? Socialistic justice? Political expediency? Or 2,000 years of pure pent-up racial hatred? When he heard the sigh of their last little girl breaths with their little girl blood spattered over his Jewish beard, do you think he felt a sense of vengeance for all the persecution, ghettoisation, expulsions and pogroms of his people at the hands of white Christian Russians?
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>>139296830
autism speaks

at a conference

don't forget to put sage in the option field guys.
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>>139296845
The opposite, that you can make money without putting in any effort at all.
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>>139296794
I'm not a white nazi you moron

I fucking hate rhe scum of the earth known as antifa who are comprised of skinny pathetic drug addicted white males who are the sheep of the system and openly burn the American flag

I'm an AMERICAN, not everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi faggot
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>>139296695
that is complete bullshit. You're confusing antifa with SJW. Anarchists reject identity politics entirely.
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>>139293692
You think they will put your statue between Lenin and the Gengis Khan ?!
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>>139296904
can you explain how he misrepresented it though? you need to actually prove your case here because so far you guys are losing. all people get when they start to ask questions is called a nazi. nobody likes you guys.
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>>139296845
This
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>>139296274
>don't joke about that
God damn what a bunch of humorless bastards. Don't you know humor is the best way to heal? Laughing might help you not be a giant piece of dog shit

See that's free advice - and you didn't even have to wait in line for 12 hours!
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>>139296981
if it's that easy then why arent you using your millions of dollars to help change things
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>>139296998
the wall can't be built fast enough.
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>>139296951
How about you explain this >>139296671
first without chaning the subject?

You claimed that there was such people`s commissariat as state control.
Please prove your claims before moving goalposts.

Or are you perhaps a liar?
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>>139297026
anarchists don't like identity politics, from the right or from the left. They see it as artificial divides meant to separate the working class by pitting poor people of a certain color against poor people of another color.
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>>>139296695
>that is complete bullshit. You're confusing antifa with SJW. Anarchists reject identity politics entirely.

HAHAHA look at this faggot

All you do is whine about "muh facists", identity politics 101 is mass categorizing your opponents dumbass
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>>139297181
I don't question my superiors actions. They know better than me.
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>>139296471
The problem I have with Antifa is that you're really not doing that though. Attacking other blue collar workers because you perceive them as "fascists" is just dumb and counter productive. Most of those people are regular hard working proletarians who are upset because some bourgeois CEO decided to fire them so they could hire an illegal or kid fresh out of college at half the pay rate. Instead of going out and fighting with them you should be talking to them on an individual level and explaining to them that capitalism itself is the cause of most of their economic hardships. That's why I'm a national bolshevik. America itself needs to be liberated from the global bourgeoisie. We need a socialist national liberation movement like they have in third world countries. I'd have more respect for you guys if you actually attacked the system itself instead of acting as it's pawns. If you guys went out and took over the NY stock exchange tomorrow I'd gladly join your group but instead you're attacking fellow workers and that I cannot endorse.
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>>139297194
Agreed, illegals need to stay out

I thought you were against borders anyway trantifa
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>>139297207


>cisheteropatriarchy
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>>139297272
What did you not understand about confusing anarchists with SJW? I can repeat slowly if you want.
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Are you one of those fags that unironically believes that americans fought the nazis because le racism? LMAO
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>>139297413
Anarcho commies are militant SJWs, I've met you people
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>>139297475
Evidently you didn't.
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>>139297321
so you're just a puppet? controlled by your superiors who no doubt are reaping the benefits (and passing down said benefits) of capitalism? without which, you wouldnt be able to even be on the internet right now
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>>139293388
why cant one right winger with balls put the hurt on you faggots
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Ok later Chumps just remember fascism is not Nazi
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>>139296904

No I didn't, your only function now is as a useful tool for the establishment in order to oust trump and prevent dissent, if there was dissent then the market could take a hit and that would affect the super rich wouldn't it.

Do you really think all the politicians in Europe and the US (almost everyone in the European Parliament and Commission and all democrats and republicans who supported the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, those who were and are extremely neoliberal have all of a sudden become anarchist ?

Do you think they will continue to allow Antifa to exist once they force themselves back into power, and who do you think They will blame for all the pushback against freedom of speech and press ?

Antifa is corrupt, and if its not corrupt then its structural leadership is borderline retarded
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>>139297368
Capitalism causes immigration through economic failure and exploitation of third world workers. They wouldn't have to emigrate if their countries were better off.
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>>139293388
Fuck your false sense of security
Fuck your fully-automated gay space communism
Fuck your false oppressors
Fuck your false history lessons
Fuck your muh 'smash white supremacy'
Fuck your snitches
Fuck your identity politics
Fuck your divide and conquer
Fuck your muh 'bourgeois'

The smallest and most important minority is the individual.
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>>139293388
i would like to join antifa but idk how?
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Why do naive nazi scum genuinely believe that we're going to kill cops?
We will cooperate with them when we will need to and get rid of you first stupid nazis

ANTIFA WARRIORS
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>>139297618
>instead of letting them be exploited over there we should let them be exploited here AND inflate the labor market
That's how that argument comes off to me.
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>>139297609
The smart Antifa want Trump in because then they can voice their opinions and be heard. Change can be brought about faster this way.
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>>139293388
When are you guys going to have your uprising?
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>>139296927
Not worth arguing the exact number of people killed by communist regimes. Answer the question: How do you propose to do communism right?
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>>139297195
>rsfsr
>same as the ussr
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>>139297272

no, I'm drawing a parallel between the rhetoric and the issues Antifa rally behind and counter protest against
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>>139293388
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>>139293388
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>>139297840
>muh 60 gorillion
It's ironic how you faggots deny the holocaust yet bitch about the holodomor.
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>>139297694
contact your local antifa and ask how you can help, show up at protests where they will be, spread the good word. You don't have to be violent if you don't wish to be, you can help just by being part of a crowd for the violent ones to hide in.
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>>139297694
Vince, my friend. Are you in one of your countries bigger cities? We mostly meet up in a coffee shop because we are all caffeine addicts lol. I can find times for you but you best just join the IRC and find your local branch. Keep bashing vince! we are winning
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>>139297941
I like this anon. Keep up the good fight.
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>>139297321
I bought anarchists don't believe in hierarchy
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>>139293388
Keep spamming this thread
It's really helping you guys created as much enemies as you possibly can
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>>139297941
https://youtu.be/vJtcdHZ5LE0
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>>139297840
I don`t have concrete beliefs on this plan myself, but currently I`m leaning towards Chinese styled market socialism.
>>139297851
Yes yes, expect that page is specifically speaking about the first peoples commissars. there were not multiple levels of peoples commissars in each soviet republic.

You just confirmed yourself as liar who spreads disinfo.
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>>139297321
>I don't question my superiors actions. They know better than me
A drone how surprising.
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>>139297005
antifa is comprised mainly of illegal immigrant kids, pro-trannies, trannies, a few blacks and brainwashed white apologists who support them. They're literally sjws trying to push a commie agenda with anarchist tactics. they don't want actual anarchy. To say that they're not about identity politics is literal retardation.
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>>139298059
we are communists
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>>139297983
MLK was against gay marriage.
I don't know why you idiots rallied around a notorious homophobe.
Fucking bigots.
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>>139297696
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>>139298314
It matters not the bad things he said but the good things
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>>139298305
We have more guns and more training.
Be whatever you want as long as you're seen and not heard.
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>>139298305
But all of your run of the mill commies believe in a nanny state.
You should be more in terms with ancaps.
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>>139293388
marxists will die
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>>139298402
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>>139297804

Opinions are never heard, you dont get it do you.

Who the fuck is going to hear your opinions, the elites..? The fucking establishment politicians ?
You think they care about any of us, what do you think all this populism was about.

Antifa is trying to destroy the One chance we have to prevent global corrupt syndicalism.
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>>139298289
Alright, I'll check with my anarchist friends hang on.

...

nope, they still think identity politics are bullshit, sorry to disappoint.
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>>139298526
I didn't say anarchists gave a shit about identity politics, they don't. But antifa are not anarchists, they're commies you dumbfuck.
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>>139293388
sage
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>>139298526
identity politics is bullshit yes.
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>>139297962
Not a response to the question.
Stupid cuck learn to read.
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>>139298766
antifa is bullshit
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>>139298666
it's basically the same thing. And yes, most antifa are anarchists, commies are a minority.
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So let me see if I got this right. U want people to punch a fascist, but u are a fascist yourself who behaves like a nazi, so if I see you or someone from antifa I should punch you correct.

man I am a genious =)
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>>139298402
Stalin made faggotry a crime.
Maybe you animals should be treated the way Stalin would treat you.
To the Gulag to be tortured and killed by other Commie scum.
God, I can't wait for all this to blow up in your face.

MLK hated faggots.
You are loathed by the people you pretend to love.
Retard.
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>>139298766
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>>139298873
It has nothing to do with punching fascists. its about subverting their beliefs entirely.
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>>139298766
>being this retarded

if you're going to troll at least be intelligent. Holy fuck.
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>>139298522
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>>139298947
glhf commie
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>>139298882
stalin was wrong about that.
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>>139293388
anarchist tough guys
how horrifying
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>>139298305 You do realize that communism is nothing short of enslavelent by the state, right? Are you in it for idealism or power?

If you're fighting for emancipation you're in the wrong ideology. If you're fighting simply for power at the cost of everyone else's prosperity, then there really isn't anything to discuss.
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>>139299019
anti doxing really?
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>>139298961
Its not the biggest issue we are dealing with.
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>>139298185
Gee, I wonder why they didn't list the USSR one. :^)
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>>139299041
Thats exactly what communism isn't you dunce
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>>139299096
yeah the biggest is taking jamals cock
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>>139298725
where the hell was this video taken at?
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These are the faces of white guilt, self-hatred and wasted/misguided youth.
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>>139299084
Shit fuck get the white out
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>>139298811
1. The question wasn't directed towards me
2. I'm not a communist
3. You're a retard if you think I'm offended by that pic
4. I just wanted to rustle your jimmies and I clearly succeeded in doing so.
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>>139293388
>The fight our forefathers started
There are people who actually believe this
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>>139298947
>It has nothing to do with punching fascists. its about subverting their beliefs entirely.

Well, your doing the opposite which is good I suppose, we need a strong opposition to Actual imperialsim and orientalism (carried out by the neoliberal establishment)

Not a weak reactionary movement based on the rotten branch of bourgeoisie cultural Marxism, which is trying to oppress reactions by the working class against the system that held them down for the past 50 years.
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>>139299128
>>139299041
duh, communism is like hanging out at burning man 24 hours a day for the rest of your life. and everyone acts like really cool roommates.
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>>139299128
You do know 90% of the commies believe in a planned economy?
In which the state needs full power of the economy and law to implement their daft ideology.
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>>139293388
jesus fucking christ that picture is so cringy. no wonder everyone calls antifa a bunch of revolutionary LARPers. get out
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>>139299128
Then define it cock sucker.
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>>139298995
>no masks
>solidarity with Israel
>15 people
>brand new flag
>can't find any context on image on google
yeah I'm calling bullshit

https://sub.media/video/anarchists-against-the-wall-resistance-within-the-occupied-territories/
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>>139299013
That's all fine and well.
You'll still be lined up and shot by your own "comrades" if the revolution ever happens.
Hell, I might join the Commies only so I get to shoot you motherfuckers legally.
Not that I expect you idiots to win.
The only people you have backing you are 300 lb. "baristas" with useless degrees.
In all honesty I expect you to try, fail and get sent to prison for treason.
I'll be clapping the whole time.
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>>139299041
communism is stateless. The state can't enslave you if it doesn't exist.
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>>139299407
Until the rent is due.
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>>139299128

Nice argument.
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>>139299544
Says every retarded Communist ever.
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>>139299311
The jimmies are very rustled.
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>>139298766
Communism is identity politics along class lines - proletariat, bougiousie, imperialist, etc. instead of racial, national, or gender lines. You might or might know your ideology well, but you would be well served to study other ideologies outside of academia or the influence of a professor.

If you are so confident in your ideas, doing some fair-minded research on capitalism from capitalist sources or liberalism from liberal sources (Paine, Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Locke, smith) or fascism from fascist sources would only bolster your commitment to Communism. Right?
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>>139299636
maybe cause it's true.
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>>139299544

state is only a manifestation of power, people cannot survive without assembly.
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>>139299698
who said anything about no assembly? Communists are very much about the free assembly of people.
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>>139293388
sage goes in all fields.

Go back to /leftypol/.
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>>139299781
Yea sure boy you'll be the first one in the gulag.
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>>139293388
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>>139299859
who's going to set up a gulag?
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>>139299311
That flag tho
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Don't believe in "isms".
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>>139299836
>my heroes punch girls
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>>139298882
We are grateful for the good and loathe the bad.

Same with literally everyone else in history. The Founding Fathers were misogynist slave-holding assholes, but they also gave us some fairly good ideas. Marx was dead on about capitalism and class struggle, but his adoration of state-power was misguided, at best. MLK was a hero for civil rights and the recognition that capitalism was inextricably linked to the reactionary force of racism, but, as you correctly pointed out, his views on homosexuality were dated, ignorant and destructive. So what do we do? We take on the mantle of the positive parts of their legacy, continuing to advocate for them, and decry the negative parts, swearing to build better.

The anarchist is the political embodiment of the Nietzschean harvester from Thus Spoke Zarathustra:

"Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest."

Everything about all of the great figures for liberation is ripe for the harvest. We will proudly pocket the finished fruit and discard with prejudice the rot, until we end the current order of all things and bury the shackles of hierarchy in the dirt beneath our feet!
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>>139293388
>he
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>>139299973
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>>139299781

I know what communism is about, Im a marxist. And I know communism does not work.

How are you going to force people into submission in this utopian society you wish to create, people have free will. Will you oppress the lowest common denominator, the workers ?

Because that's what all communist states have done so far.
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>>139299128
Read between the lines. Look between the false poetry of the words. Watch the flow of resources in real life and you will see it is enslavement from peasants to the state.
>>139299544
Again, you can dress it up in language like "revolutionary guard" or "people liberation army" but it's just a state by another name. And a particularly violent and oppressive state at that
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>>139300111
>>139300111

Get in the new thread everyone
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>>139299128
communism is an excuse to steal. it forces people to abandon their wants and rights, instead of inspiring them to be selfless. its fucking evil.

it can't work, and the only way to even ATTEMPT it, is to use an overbearing government that enslaves people to "the will of the people".

the "will of the people" still needs to be enforced, upheld, and embodied by something, and that something is ALWAYS some form of government, even if you don't call it one.

mankind is rebellious by nature boyo, how the FUCK do you expect to FORCE people to share what's their with everybody?

that LITERALLY THEFT. explain yourself please.
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>>139300071
I'm an anarchist, I don't seek to force anybody into anything.
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>>139299693
All communist societies have always had the state with the most power. Fuck what marx said, you're just deluding yourself of that fact. Even real communists agree with Stalin, Mao. You're just a fake commie if you don't actually see that. You're just anarchist with light communist sympathies
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>>139293388
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>>139299973
>this post
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>>139300202

>I'm an anarchist, I don't seek to force anybody into anything.

Utopian societies are utopian in the sense that they only work in theory

Once free will is interdicted people tend to different things.
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>>139300220
see>>139300202
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>>139300328
>interdicted

introduced*
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>>139300328
What do I care what other people do as long as they don't try to impose their will on me?
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>>139300202
well then others will force you, SOMEBODY has to be in charge. that's how humans work. since nobody is willing to adhere to God, the only authority that matters, you have to have an enforcement of rights in place.

THATS WHAT A GOVERNMENTS FOR.
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>>139293388
sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage sage
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>>139300091
You're demonstrating just how limited your knowledge of the word "Communism" and in what ways it has been applied really is. To be fair, I don't blame you - Marxism-Leninism (and its cousin Marxism-Leninism-Maoism) are the only brands discussed very much in the schools of the American empire, because it fits the state narrative. But there are many communists who oppose vanguardism - that "revolutionary guard", "dictatorship of the proletariat", "vanguard party" type rhetoric you allude to. In fact, it was us - the libertarian communists and ancoms - who decried vanguardism when it was still merely Lenin's pet theory. *We* were the ones who correctly predicted it would amount to totalitarianism, far before the capitalists were even paying attention.

You're right that Leninism, on the whole, was repressive. We're right when we said it, too - a hundred years ago.
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>>139299932
"FEMA" camps are a thing and have been for quite some time. Welcome to 4chan.
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>>139300446
>that's how humans work
evidently not all humans

>THATS WHAT A GOVERNMENTS FOR.
nope, the only function of government is to vote laws, everything else is done by people who are merely paid by the government.
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>>139295241

Fucking neck yourself , you subhuman.
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>>139300404

Because they hold the means of production.
They control the food, the materials and the leisure. That's how power works, and power always forms and power always become corrupt if left unchallenged for too long.

Without food, shelter and heat people tend to die.

You should care about these things.. Anarchism is a way of making you overlook the class struggle.
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>>139300868
What do I care what they hold as long as I can feed and heat myself?
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>>139300330
Thanks for clarifying. Communism can't be stateless. Anarchist is stateless. You can't be either. Marx may have theorized it but it hasn't proven true so far.
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>>139300446
>, SOMEBODY has to be in charge. that's how humans work.

Is it really, now? What do you know about human behavior prior to, say, the agricultural revolution?

>THATS WHAT A GOVERNMENT IS FOR

Governments are not natural entities. They don't sprout from the ground or exit an animal's womb or exist in a fixed physical state. They are constructions, ones which only exist with our consent. They didn't exist for most of human history, and there's no reason to think they must exist for the rest of it, either.
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>>139300404

Society is on its way into absolutism, freedom of speech and assembly is threatened, once information is controlled, leaders can begin purges like China does without anyone even knowing.

Populism is way more relevant now in order to challenge that than Anarchism and beating the working class over the head because they have "mean opinions" of the groups the elites use to kill off their significance with.
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>>139300952
Anarchists seek to bring communism by destroying the state domination. Communists seek to bring communism by taking over the state, imposing communism through fascist means and then let the state be progressively replaced by communes. Ultimately they're both the same stateless society, but the fact that the communist way doesn't seem to work and is fascistic in nature is why I'd rather be an anarchist.
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>>139294312
You think the Kurds are "interesting" and it's nothing to do with the fact they're sponsored by the CIA.

Also, you've had your communist theory and literature for more than a century of capitalism. And yet it's only now with an anti-globalist as president and stifling the established elite that you decide go full commie revolution faggot.

You guys never question this?
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>>139300990
except they have been around for most of human history, you dumb cunt. and communism isnt just going to happen naturally without some form of government in place to enforce it. "anarcho"communism is a literal impossibility. after about a week, most people would say "fuck this shit" and stop working. including you.
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>>139300990

>Is it really, now? What do you know about human behavior prior to, say, the agricultural revolution?

Yes, I have a degree in what is basically Mesolithic and Neolithic archaeology so a bit more than most probably. lol

>Governments are not natural entities

Nothing is natural, but conformation of power is protocultural, and without having a group identity and a function our stone age ancestors would not survive.
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>>139300990
Human behavior has always been capitalist in nature. From cavemen trading sea shells for raw meat, it was always voluntary exchange of goods/services for something else of perceived value. This is why communism fails every single time because it tries to apply unnatural force to natural market momentum until the entire mechanism breaks down and everyone starves to death. And you idiots a generation later just say "well, it'll work this time for sure." No. It won't. It never has and never will. The worst part is there is 1,000x more information out there showing you how it has and will fail every time out there for you to read, but you brainwashed faggots still clutch your little marxist and leninist shit and plug your ears.
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>>139301684
If that were true, parents would ask their children for reimbursement after they're done growing up. Sharing resources with you community, family and friends has always existed.
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>>139300673
Your condescension towards my knowledge base and it's source is misguided and incorrect, but very revealing of your psychological makeup.

> libertarian communists and ancoms
This position is the most contradictory on the entire political compass. How can you claim to be libertarian or anarchist if people cannot voluntarily trade and perform commerce? How can there be no state of goods are to be "communalized" and redistributed?
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>>139300990

I'm not arguing for governments in general, but a structure is needed. Political and economical Power is almost dynastic, its held within the sphere of a few families which represent an extremely small percentage of people in each country and state.

Antifa generalizes this too often by saying "all whites", while 99,9% of whites and especially those they counter protest are not related to these politicians and have no power.

We need to oust and topple these spheres in order to effectively challenge the political status quo of social mobility.

The "alt right" and populist movements did this, or tried to achieve this, but they were smeared as national socialists, whatever that implies.
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>>139300841
the only function of government is to vote laws

That's the legislature. There's also an executive branch...

The state is the organization in a society that claims a monopoly on the legitimate initiation of force.
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>>139301927
the redistribution of resources is voluntary in anarchism. People that don't feel like being anarchists are perfectly free to leave.
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>>139301915
Voluntarily sharing resources with your community, family and friends is not at all in the same ballpark as a centralized government forcing you to do so and executing you when you tell them to go fuck themselves.

You literally just described charity and tried to say it's communism. Goddamn crack open a book and lurk more, you mental midget, you are what's wrong with /pol/.
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in a true communist society, 1000 workers would not efficiently, collectively own and control the means of production. control would naturally and inevitably gravitate towards a smaller group and/or a single person. at which point theyll need to focus their efforts on keeping the operation running. suddenly "muh comrades" are subordinates and you have a capitalist operation. capitalism is more natural than communism.
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>>139293388

stop Larping faggot
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>>139298766
>>139299673
This. You'd better get used to the idea of not being "free", except by the dictats of your government, because that's what communism produces: anyone not to their liking gets put up against the wall and shot, or sent to a camp to die. It's a politic of outcomes, not of principles. If you're not producing the desired outcome, you're in the way, and you're punished or eliminated.

The George Soros elites are using you, amigo. They want a youth movement in their pocket ready to destroy anything they want and to shut down dissent.
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>>139302298
Real communism is stateless.
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>>139302210
>the redistribution of resources is voluntary in anarchism

redistribution of resources is never voluntary.

resources are always controlled by the governing power, even if that power is an assembly of people or one person.

And leave where, what you are suggesting is claiming land, another capitalist way of looking at things
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>>139302499

>Real communism is stateless.

Nothing can be stateless, it will be infringed upon by neighbouring states.
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>>139299973
So....acting like gangsters and thugs and breaking windows and burning trash cans makes you the....the Nietzchean ideal "harvester"...? Why don't you try being a good father and friend and co-worker instead?
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>>139302499
>real gobunism never been tried tho!
Every. Single. Time. Like clockwork. Keep wasting your life, you incredible dipshit but don't try to pretend you're educated at all.
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>>139301915
Altruism works with high trust usually blood relative in-groups like families on an interpersonal level and nations on a state level. People with the gene to help their relatives had more offspring that survived and so over generations the gene pool had many in-group altruists. It does not apply to the world writ large. Altruism to the world writ large gets people killed since nothing is left over for themselves, so people have a tendency to secure resources for themselves and their in-group without regard to others. This competitive spirit is harnessed by capitalism, which is why capitalism works. Communism ignores or stamps out that competitive desire, which is why communist economies are so anemic, famines occur, and so much oppression is required.
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