- Prof. Jordan Peterson: "How Hitler was Even More Evil

Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMqQBLZwRIE

Wtf i hate Peterson now

He's right. Fuck black sun worshipers.

>BUT MUH KAMPF!

Yes wow, a demon came as an angel of light full of great ideas and promises, ya don't say

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>>139181778

Based. Hopefully this will chase the Nazi filth from his community.

>>139181794
Must be after some of those shekels the World Jewish Congress is giving out.

>>139182242
See you in 50 years when america is browner than mexico

>>139181778
All socialists are garbage, Hitler included.

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>>139181794
>still believing in "death camps"

HITLER DINDU NUFFIN HE WAS A GOOD BOY
CONSCRUCTED AUTOBAHNS, PROVIDED HEALTHCARE FOR THE POOR, LOVED ANIMALS

>>139181778
Oy vey

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she tweeted this earlier and then deleted it right after

>>139181778
(((Peterson)))

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>>139182955
even she knows how kikes are

>>139182955
>Man who loves the old testament names his child something in hebrew
What did he mean by this?

What the fuck is Peterson talking about?

Hitler knew there was a possibility Germany would lose the war, so he exterminated as many of these two-legged pathogens as he could to buy Germans time until their next shot at a Reich.

It had nothing to do with being self-destructive. Hitler was willing to sacrifice his own life and the lives of millions of his countrymen to make it a tiny bit easier for the next few generations to overcome The Disease of Mankind.

>>139183498
Makes you almost wish the holocaust was real.

>>139183141

Norwegian, spelling altered during immigration.

Most of us Scandinadians had our names mangled.

Sorry, but if you idolize Hitler you will never learn from his mistakes and flaws, you must overcome Hitler.

>>139183498

Also, he did use them as slave labour, which resulted in sabotage.

>>139183817
The only mistake he made was being too nice.

>>139181778
>EVIL

Leafs truly believe they live in a cartoon.

>>139181778
I think this is actually subtle holocaust denial.

Incredibly subtle.

>If Hitler wanted to win, he would make the camps work camps and not death camps...

Arbecht macht frei

>>139184009

Night of Long Knives, Kristallnacht, occupation of the Rhineland, annexation of Czechoslovakia, invasion of Poland -- yes -- what a thoroughly "nice" man (I am confining myself to crimes committed before the war even began). I knew it would not be long before the Hitler-apologist brigade arrived.

>>139184009
this, hitler was a cuck

>>139184009
He made some tactical mistakes.

He shouldn't have pressed Russia in winter. Would have made more sense to retreat, shorten supply lines, establish a defensive line and perhaps prepare a push the next summer.

>>139181778
We were never behind Peterson. He was good for sort yourself out and father memes, but he's a drag queen cuck.

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>>139181778
Peterson ironically solidified by abandonment of classical Liberalism. It may be that personal moral and psychological fortification through moral mythology can benefit individuals and improve life outcomes, but it doesn't undo the inherent tragedy of existence. Human beings don't need to spiral into destructive psychology in order to be cruel, destructive, and massively murderous. Even a perfectly enlightened humanity would find it necessary to kill, often in large quantities, in order to struggle for survival and dominance. Bad psychology only makes things worse, but it's not the cause of human suffering.

Swallowing the horror of reality, and maintaining psychological wellness in the face of it is the true mountaintop. Have a Commie flag to trigger the liberals. Have a free cry session on me.

>>139184142

Fuck off kike...no one sane can stand you and we all want you binned.

>>139184209

He loves his patreon shekels.

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I would like for communist and jew sympathizers to consider suicide by fire.

>>139181778
Shut the fuck up you dumb faggot slav, fuck off

>>139181778
jordan peterson is lame and doesn't even "get" the youth -- i don't want to "SORT MYSELF OUT" i want a white ethnostate

>>139184324

What a fool you are to presume that anybody who hates Hitler is a Jew. That man did more to destroy Europe than any other ever before living or dead. He is the sole reason why you cannot breathe a word against immigration or uphold any manner of decent morals any longer.

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>>139181778
>not realizing what sort yourself out means

>>139184269

Has /pol/ finally taken the evola-pill?

>>139184456

>I want to be a degenerate NEET in a white society instead

>>139182242
yeah dude we are running fucking scared from BASED PETERSON

>>139184142
>Occupation of the Rhineland
It's his own fucking country which was in response to continued French aggression.
>Annexation of Czechoslovakia
He didn't annex the country. Bohemia was made into a protectorate at the behest of the Head of the Czech government (Emil Hacha) and his political aide testified that Hitler did not coerce him in any way.
>Kristallnacht
Hitler wasn't even present for it and when he found out about it he was furious. Additionally Kristallnacht was triggered in the first place by a Polish kike murdering a German diplomat in Paris.
>Night of the Long Knives
There was evidence to suggest that Rohm and his buddies were planning a coup and they insisted on being the new German army. Hitler needed to purge them to get the trust of the standing German army
>Invasion of Poland
Read a book beyond your 10th grade history textbook. Hitler's Revolution, The War That Had Many Fathers, anything for God's sake.

>>139184114
It sounds that way to me
>the holocaust was completely illogical from the perspective of someone losing a war
>that just shows how evil Hitler was!!
It's like satire.

>>139181778
What can I do? I have no empathy. I always have the base impulse to hurt people. Normal things are incredibly disgusting to me, and should be done away with. For example, homosexuals, blacks, etc. I would do well in a state like nazi germany. The communists will imprison me for my selfishness.
So then, Heil Hitler, and have a good day.

>>139184567
Wrong.

>>139184542
What the fuck makes you think I'm a degenerate NEET or that I need a wanna-be Jung psychologist to tell me to "sort myself out"? He's impotent. Peterson is alt-life, civic nationalist, reddit-tier.

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>when your hero is hitler

what a bunch of dimwitted faggots

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>>139184532
Evola and Junger are my probably my two favorite thinkers.

>>139183800
>curly black hair
>hooked nose
>yellow skin
>baggy eyes

Totally Norwegian bro

>>139181778
>How The Holocaust Narrative Is Even More Implausible Than You Think

The Holocaust and Generalplan Ost were made up to distract from the Allied strategy of using long-range bombers and scorched earth tactics to target food production and supplies, as well as deliberately targetting the civilian population.

Without slandering Nazi Germany somehow, the masterminds of the war faced a dawning post-war realization that the Nazis fought a largely clean war that focused on rapidly taking key strategic points with minimum bloodshed, and were motivated primarily by fear of Soviet invasion and atrocities against German populations in the territories they lost in the resolution of WWI (i.e. had been backed into a corner and were fighting for survival), while the Allies targetted Germany for total domination, chose a drawn-out war of attrition, and planned their tactics without regard to human suffering.

In other words, a dawning realization that the Nazis were not "the bad guys". That, though they might not have been sweet little angels, there were far more ruthless and brutal groups in the war.

Stories needed to be told to ensure that people saw the Nazis as monsters, so they were.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_in_occupied_Germany
>The German food situation became worst during the very cold winter of 1946–47, when German calorie intake ranged from 1,000 to 1,500 calories per day, a situation made worse by severe lack of fuel for heating.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_plans_for_German_industry_after_World_War_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_in_the_Occupation_of_Japan
>The rations limited the average adult to 1,042 calories per day

>>139184542
not to mention, a fully white society would have degeneracy gone within a few years. that's what happens when you get rid of the REAL PROBLEM.

>>139183294
Peterson named his daughter after Gorbechov the first democratically elected russian president, with the decency to relinquish power he fought tooth, and nail for.

>>139184708

If you weren't a degenerate, you wouldn't be here.

>>139184696
>Wrong
Not an argument

>>139184814
What the fuck does that even mean? That in order to visit this website, you MUST be a degenerate? So you are too? Holy fuck I thought brits were smart and snobby but you're just a fucking retard MATE

>>139184269
The real redpill is that suffering and happiness don't matter at all and that killing people isn't bad.

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>>139181778
>Hitler was LITERALLY Hitler!
One of these cunts fought international Jewry, the other refused a tranny its pronouns.

What did Adolf do now??

messy room?

>>139184874
>being 16

>>139184893
yeah bro clean your room that's gonna save your civilization from extinction

>>139184467
>He is the sole reason why you cannot breathe a word against immigration or uphold any manner of decent morals any longer.
That was already coming down the pipeline before Hitler. Hitler actually delayed it a few decades.

Psychologist anon here
Studied under Peterson.
Formed a personal relationship with him due to me being "advanced" in Nietzsche while studying under him.
He resents the Nazis for "smearing Nietzsche"
He's not a National Socialist. He's a right of center conservative who has the balls enough to stand up to the SJW left. He's also a Christ lover.
And he's an old man whose veiws of Nazis aren't "modern" by /pol/s standards
He knows he has influence here and is speaking out against Hitler lately precisely because he knows that and believes his own meme
He isn't educated on white genocide, and as someone that knows him personally and has been on /pol/ a few years, I can honestly say he's naive and completely in over his head in his direct and indirect communications with /us/

>>139184735
Junger was a cuck.

>>139184467

Churchill was the drunken degenerate son of an American kike party girl whore...and he sold out his country's empire and future for £400K from his kike benefactors so he could keep the family home he gambled away. Europe ruined by the (((City))) and its pet posh bagel puppet.

>>139181778
He can't be possibly so far up his own ass dirty he can't see the hole in his reasoning

>>139184925
>conjecture
>literally no argument made
petersonfags you guys are fucking wasting your time. if you want psychological guidance read the guys that he references -- he has nothing to offer you himself. He doesn't even look at his audience when he speaks -- He is autistic as fuck

>>139184946

It's a start?

>>139185030
>I can honestly say he's naive and completely in over his head in his direct and indirect communications with /us/
i can see that forsure. he has fundamentally misunderstood the "movement" to such a degree that it's sometimes embarassing.

>>139184782

Very delusional.

>>139184801

Gorbachev was a puppet of the banques and I have some exquisite audio from his inner office.

>>139184801
Gorbachev was a traitor.

>>139185063
>Hitler was evil
this is a blocking point. there's no point in getting a good start if you're going to reach a dead end.

It either makes the death camps story retarded or makes Hitler look like an absolute retard.

>>139185030

Nietzsche is a fag and so is your hero Peterson

>>139184393
>wah wah muh privilege
How about you get a high IQ of your own eh kiddo, instead of blaming smarter people for being more successful? People who whine about this shit are literally commie nigger-tier.

>>139184567

1) The occupation of the Rhineland was a direct breach of the Treaty of Versailles. It was one of a long concatenation of events wherein Hitler insisted on playing with fire. He simply did not care enough about whether or not he should start another war by his actions.

2) Go and update the Wikipedia article on Emil Hacha with the results of your marvellous reading that upends everything we know about World War Two. There is a lot for you to correct. This is how the incident is described at present:

"In the evening of 14 March 1939, Hitler summoned President Hácha to the Reich Chancellery in Berlin.[1] Hitler deliberately kept him waiting for hours, while Hitler watched a film.[4] Finally, at 1:30 a.m., on 15 March 1939, Hitler saw the President. He told Hácha that as they were speaking, the German army was about to invade Czechoslovakia.[1] All of Czechoslovakia's defences were now under German control following the Munich Agreement in September of the previous year. The country was virtually surrounded by Germany on three fronts.

Hitler now gave the President two options: cooperate with Germany, in which case the "entry of German troops would take place in a tolerable manner" and "permit Czechoslovakia a generous life of her own, autonomy and a degree of national freedom..." or face a scenario in which "resistance would be broken by force of arms, using all means." By four o'clock, after suffering a heart attack induced by Göring's threat to bomb the capital, Hácha contacted Prague, effectively "signing Czechoslovakia away" to Germany.[5] French Ambassador Robert Coulondre reported that by half past four, Hácha was "in a state of total collapse, and kept going only by means of injections."[6]

You ever wonder about the words JEW-elry?
JEWels?
Why are words pertaining to luxurious items of splendor something JEW-esq?

>>139185201

I was buying everything I could by the pallet from the USSR as everything fell apart. I've some very juicy items. The Soviet was dismantled when they could not service their 20th century war debt to the satisfaction of the (((counterparties))).

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>>139185148
History disagrees

>>139184567

3) "In an article released for publication on the evening of 11 November, Goebbels ascribed the events of Kristallnacht to the "healthy instincts" of the German people. He went on to explain: "The German people is anti-Semitic. It has no desire to have its rights restricted or to be provoked in the future by parasites of the Jewish race."[47] Less than 24 hours after the Kristallnacht Adolf Hitler made a one hour long speech in front of a group of journalists where he managed to completely ignore the recent events on everyone's mind. According to Eugene Davidson the reason for this was that Hitler wished to avoid being directly connected to an event that he was aware that many of those present condemned, regardless of Goebbels's unconvincing explanation that Kristallnacht was caused by popular wrath.[48] Goebbels met the foreign press in the afternoon of the 11th of November and said that the burning of synagogues and damage to Jewish owned property had been “spontaneous manifestations of indignation against the murder of Herr Vom Rath by the young Jew Grynsban [sic]”

Do you consider this disgusting behaviour worthy of a civilized nation?

4) I suggest that you expand your reading beyond the consumption of mere Hitlerite propaganda.

>>139181778
Hitler should have been content with what Germany still had in 1933. Maybe could have good diplomatic relations with Poland so the Germans in the Corridor would have been better treated

>>139185327
That's some feminist level shit right there. Calm down a notch, bud.

>>139185320

Jewipedia....good for laughs. Thanks kikelstein!

>>139185439

https://archive.org/details/youtube-2H-qOxDbV_w

This is him saying the holocaust didn't happen without outing himself as a nazi.

>>139185058
>he has nothing to offer you himself.

why do you say that?

>>139182955

Mikhaila is Hebrew? What a fucking bullshit. This is pretty rare Russian female name, actually the same as Michaela. I bet he name her after Gorbachev, in western view - man, who ended Gulag legacy.

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>>139185327
Online etymological dictionary. You're welcome.

\pol\ turned on JBP when he went out of his way to shill for the Jew. He could have kept his mouth shut; but no, he bad to actively shill.

Now he will never say anything edgy enough to endanger his patreon-bux.

>>139185464

The Poles were moronic puppets that got pumped and dumped by Churchill. Raw dog long dick style.

>>139185381
The CIA had infiltrated their government and worked with the mafia to bring.them down (and these parties of course got very rich off this).

>>139185001

Hitler and the Nazis are used as the ultimate excuse to justify degeneracy of all kinds on every single occasion. What did the leftists compare Enoch Powell to when he suggested in 1968 that we halt immigration and institute a system of voluntary repatriation? Hitler, even though Powell despised him, wanted war with him as quickly as possible, and had so fight against him in the war, from the beginning, in the capacity of a common soldier.

Where was anything even remotely approaching the degeneracy and destruction we see today---the total collapse of the West as we know it--immigration to the point of the extinction of her people---before the demoralization of the destruction wrought by World War Two, and the looming precedent of Nazi racialist policies?

>>139185418
Wtf, you retard, historians didn't write about the degenerate unwashed masses but that doesn't mean they weren't plentiful. All it means is they only chose to preserve that which they found worth preserving. They didn't have meme historians in the past like Howard Zinn trying to write from the perspective of irrelevant cunts

>>139185676

Yes and Gorbachev totally knew this and only cared about positioning himself to take full fiscal benefit from this.

>>139185492

Argumentum ad hominem.

>>139185464
>Hitler should have been content with Germany becoming a puppet of America or Russia

>>139181778
/ourguys/ (and /gals/) have never been Hitler-worshippers. Here's a video where based Lauren Southern explains how both the Far-Left and Far-Right (Nazis) are evil.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_le9zYd6VM

>>139185776
>Yes and Gorbachev totally knew this and only cared about positioning himself to take full fiscal benefit from this.
Sounds exactly like what Peterson aspires to be.

>>139185631
Peterson is the platonic ideal of boomer cuckoldry. I disliked him from the first time I heard of him.

>>139185795
Airheaded attention whore.

>>139181778
I'm trying to cure myself of fashy. I just enjoy the aesthetics of it all too much. I blame 40k, the emperor protects.

>>139181794
If Hitlers goal was
>Maxim possible mayhem in the shortest period of time
why would he take so many steps to improve the economy and the lives of the German people? This seems like a very basic oversight on Dr. Peterson's part.

>>139185787
Germany became an even bigger puppet for America and Russia after 1945

>>139182694
Can somebody help the left understand that hitler was their guy.

>>139185959
Shareblue shill.

>>139184708
>Peterson is alt-life, civic nationalist, reddit-tier.
>wanna-be Jung psychologist

you sound silly and blinded by angst.

>>139185936

O, yes. Thank goodness there is the superior wisdom of people like you who know no answer to any question but "Hitler is always right, and never put a foot wrong."

>>139185234
Even if you 100% don't question the Holocaust narrative, it's still a terrible argument.

Do you remember Schindler's List? One of the points made in the movie was that Schindler's ammunition factory did not produce a single non-defective round, so it made no contribution to the Nazi war effort, and consumed resources that could have been used for it.

The Jewish slaves were not positively-motivated workers, and there were saboteurs among them. Slaves are never as productive as willing employees, especially not new and freshly resentful slaves, much less slaves who suspect their condition is temporary and they will be freed when their captors lose the war they're supposed to be helping them win.

From the beginning, Hitler was very worried about food supplies and being "starved out" and indeed, food, fuel, and essential parts became increasingly scarce as the war progressed. So combine low-productivity slaves with shortages of supplies either to care for them or to run the factories they were supposed to work in, and you're looking at a burden rather than an asset.

>>139185784

I know all the IRL details for the much heralded head Jew of the kike brigades. Thinks he is anonymous. Even got the vet records for his cat and a sweet walk video through of his orthodox leaf abode taking it made my nipples hard. It's coming but this time it will be real.

>>139185681
Even without Hitler that was where they were going anyway. If you think otherwise, you are delusional. It was always the plutocrats' intention to dismantle Britain and bring multiracialism.

>>139185269
>instead of blaming smarter people for being more successful?
>jihadi flag
Inbred trogdolyte goatfucker.
Go through your sex slave boy off of the tallest building in your clay brick village. It might be tall enough to seriously maim him.

>>139185910

Dem patreon gibs are so addicting.

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>>139185936
As someone said, read the people he references. Nietzsche and Dostoevsky especially. But Jung is an obscurantist fantasist; and JBP's Biblical lectures are a joke. He refuses to say whether he believes Jesus physically rose from the dead. It's a dishonest, weaselly, oily answer.

Schopenhauer is the final Phil. pill.

>>139186140
Not to mention the typhus break outs

Sure hitler may of gassed a few but i highly doubt it was a common occurrence

>>139185320
>Versailles Treaty
It's all well and good to enforce diktats on others but don't expect them to hold up their end of the deal when you blatantly don't hold up yours.
'The Franco-Soviet agreement tarnished relations between Paris and Berlin. On May 25th, the Germans protested that it violated the 1925 Locarno Pact. In this compact, France, Belgium and Germany pledged 'under no circumstances to attack, fall upon, or wage war against one another' The German government argued that the Franco-Soviet understanding was directed against the Reich. In January 1936, Hitler attempted again to persuade France to change course by offering a non-aggression pact. Paris refused. The French described their arrangement with the USSR as purely political and not a military alliance, hence not repugnant to the spirit of Locarno. In February however, Soviet Marshal Mikhail Tukhachvesky met in Paris with General Maurice Gamelin, commander in chief of the French army. The German intelligence service, the Abwehr, learned that the French general staff was preparing a plan to coordinate operations with the Red Army. The blueprint envisioned a French advance into the demilitarized Rhineland, together with a thrust further south to link up with Soviet forces invading Germany from the east... informed of Franco-Soviet general staff talks the Fuhrer became concerned that the demilitarized Rhineland represented an open door for France to invade. He responded by transferring 19 infantry battalions to garrison Aachen, Saarbrucken and Trier and then other Rhineland cities. He publicly withdrew from the Locarno pact by which the Reich had agreed to keep the province free of troops. Hitler proposed that Belgium, France and Germany withdraw military units from borderline areas and that all three countries conclude a 25 year non - aggression pact and establish an international court of arbitration to enforce compacts.

>>139185795

The main argument against nazis are not that they are evil. But that they are fucking dumb.

Hitler had a force of justifiable moral stance (prior to at least 1941), half of Europe behind him, intellectual and social capital of 1500 year German history + huge amount of sympathy around the world, ruled and tight by white people.

He still fucking lose, and doomed white people to tackle the guilt and shame dayly and forever.

80 Years later couple of thousand embecilles believe they had a better shot.

>>139181778
Fuck him now.
All you retards who claim "spencer and enoch and duke" are subverting the movement, yet follow Peterson after this stunt, you need to kill yourselves.

>>139185999

Germany doesn't exist. At all.

>>139186140

Shindler's list was based on a novel.

>>139185999
They became the same level of puppet they would have been if they had done nothing. They took the risk and lost. The outcome was essentially the same as it would have been had they done nothing (only winning could have changed that).

confusing stupidity with unconscious malevolence

>>139184467
This is retarded.
AH YES THE MAN WHO STOOD UP AGAINST THE ANTI-WHITES WHO ATTACKED HIS PEOPLE DESTROYED WHITE NATIONALISM!!! IT WASN'T THE PEOPLE WHO OUTRIGHT FOUGHT WHITE NATIONALISM! NOPE.

This idiotic view is only held by people who want to come up with some excuse to hate Hitler so they don't have to defend him.

>>139186409
It was for illustrative purposes. I'm not treating Schindler's List as a documentary. My own views are here: >>139184768

I think the Holocaust story was a distraction from worse crimes by the Allies.

>>139186458

They gave us the blueprint where 70 million with limited natural resources held off 2 billion with unlimited resources.

>>139182128
>>BUT MUH KAMPF!
>muh
retard

>>139186102
There is middle ground. Peterson just cucked out and started making videos about HOW EVIL LE NAZIS ARE DO U LIKE ME YET CNN?

>>139186353
>implying he didn't say this back in the 70's
>kys stormfag

>>139186345

Do you suppose for one moment that Britain would have stood by and seen a sovereign, neutral Germany wantonly invaded by anybody? After she had been willing to lose so many lives simply to defend the neutral and sovereign country of Belgium in 1914? When she had so much sympathy with Germany owing to what many perceived as injustice directed towards her in the Treaty of Versailles? Had Hitler confined himself to his own borders and his attention to his own country he had nothing to fear from either Russia or France. He had no need to do any of the things he did. Hitlerites speak at such great length of his economic prowess; well, why could not he simply keep at making Germany a better country, instead of taking actions that were even slightly likely to bring about another World War.

>>139181778
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>139186836

You silly fatuous faggot the USSR was in hock to the (((bankers))) the same who pollute the (((City))). I hope you stroke the fuck out leaning over a hot greased griddle.

>>139186811
Then he was wrong then and hasn't learned a thing since.

Sorry we're not adopting your eFather. Now go clean your room.

>>139186253

People would not have put up with it. You must not understand what people were like in those days. One tenth of the degeneracy we see today would have been simply unthinkable to our ancestors. If "the Plutocrats" always had the capacity to fulfill this intention it is funny they never managed to carry it out in the slightest degree until the devastation of the Second World War had passed, and with it the looming memory of Nazi racialism. Why did they permit a hundred years of peace in Europe during the Pax Britannica, and Victorian morality, now a by-word, to spread across the globe? Why not attack us then and there, if it was so easy to do so?

>>139187074

It always amuses me how Nazis are often some of the vulgarest and lowest people in the world. You are just the sort of useful idiots that Hitler would have purged in '34 once he had used you to gain power.

>>139184467
>That man did more to destroy Europe than any other ever before living or dead. He is the sole reason why you cannot breathe a word against immigration or uphold any manner of decent morals any longer.
Isn't that awfully convenient, though? Doesn't it seem more like propagandists seized on an opportunity?

The Soviets retreated across whole countries destroying all supplies and shelter as they went.

The Brits and Americans strategically bombed German civilian industry, slowing agriculture and transportation of supplies to a crawl.

Of course in a severe food shortage the Germans would prioritize their own loyal citizens and soldiers over prisoners and occupied populations. The food shortage was inflicted on them deliberately, by enemies who would accept nothing less than their unconditional surrender.

Then these same enemies blamed the inevitable megadeaths on a fantastical mustache-twirling villain plot by the Germans, made it out that it was the Nazis' plan all along to kill those people, no matter how much food they had.

>>139187313
Yo can you respond to the argument as well as ad hominem back or are you just not gonna actually argue BECAUSE YOU WERE BLOOOOWN THE FUCK OUT.

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As always, /pol/ misses the big picture. You disavow every last person who has the slightest chance of redpilling normies simply because they refuse to root for a man who divided white people more than any other single person in modern history and was responsible for associating nationalism with futile wars and general failure.

>>139182955
>>139185603
he did name her after gorbachev, "because he didn't completely ruin everything". it's in one of their TVO segments

>>139182771
>dosen't believe in the Holocaust
>"Hitler did nothing wrong"
>believes Hitler should have killed the jews

Holocaust denialists in a nutshell

>>139187789

His post is a red herring. It has absolutely no bearing on my argument.

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>>139187313
Careful. You might be brought in for police questioning posting independent thought online.

>>139187508

I do not believe in the Holocaust. I completely agree with you that that is all nonsense. I recommend to everybody reading this thread to watch Denierbud's "One Third of the Holocaust" and his other excellent videos on the subject. Refuting the lie of the Holocaust is critical to undoing perhaps the most potent weapon which leftists employ to attack those on the right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlgTgIOmRT4

That does not change my opinion on Hitler one whit. His actions gave rise to the war, and he was still a bad man for all manner of reasons. I do not think any differently from Sir Oswald Mosley in this.

>>139186836
Germany had been encircled since 1919 by a series of alliances directly aimed at her (As well as Austria and Hungary) primarily directed by France. It's not an issue of what Britain is willing to allow. Germany's standing army of 100,000 men which included the police was wholly inadequate to defend Germany, let alone attack anyone else. Hitler never even demanded military parity with the other great powers, he tried his utmost to arrange deals with France and Britain that would allow the expansion of the German army, navy and airforce at not even half the capacity of their own forces. Britain for the most part agreed, France was more aggressive. I didn't see Britain stopping the French and Poles from taking Upper Silesia from Germany despite the voting system THEY put in place showing results in Germany's favor. I didn't see Britain stopping France and Belgium from invading the Saar and Rhineland, killing Germans and using their women as whores for their colonial troops (Which they brought in specifically to taint German blood)
>Had Hitler confined himself to his own borders
You're crazy if you think Britain wasn't aligned against Germany. You think Belgium was the reason Britain went to war against Germany in 1914? No. British politicians admitted as much to themselves and to the Americans that this war was to get rid of a powerful economic rival which had already more or less eclipsed their entire empire by the dawn of the 20th Century. Belgium was a convenient excuse to justify the war to their population and Poland would be the same in WWII.
>Nothing to fear from France of Russia
Germany had everything to fear from them. France has always been belligerent towards Germany, earnestly hoping for her dissolution to make her easier to control again. It was France who invaded the Rhineland, it was France who constantly threatened invasion and sanctions against Germany no matter how hard Hitler tried to achieve some sort of understanding.

>>139187867
>durr, durr, rescue your father from the underworld
>tell the truth and be a real boy like Pinocchio
You are color-blind anon if you think these are red pills.

>>139181778
You don't need to agree with everything he says. Are you going to jump off a cliff if he told you to?

>>139188378
Following an abject failure of a man who brought nothing but war and turmoil between Europeans is the true way to become redpilled, I guess?

>>139185030
What would you say to him about the nazis? If you could.

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>>139184801
>Naming your daughter after a cuck who sold his own country out to western kikes
Wew lad

>>139186836
Cont.
It was France who sabotaged the unilateral disarmament conference in Geneva which Hitler championed mind you for all nations to seek disarmament which the Versailles Treaty stipulated they would all do. What did the other Great Powers do? They just carried on with their arms race while expecting Germany to play by the rules they themselves drafted but did not follow like the hypocrites they were. And as for Russia, are you saying there was nothing to fear from the USSR? Communist revolution in Germany was the key to spreading communism to rest of the continent and Stalin knew it. And it's not as if Germany was new to communist revolution or constant uprisings. Hitler did his best to make everyone aware of the Soviet threat but all Britain and France could do was maintain their outdated 19th Century diplomatic techniques while ignoring the real threat looming across the entire continent. EVERY European country had something to fear from the USSR and Hitler knew it.

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>>139181794
He did enslave the jews and gypsies and put them to work. It began in 1942 when the germans began to have trouble capturing moscow months before.

Arriving at the camps those who were seen as too weak were killed and those who looked like they can work were put to work. Jordan Peterson tries to link too many events with biblical analogies, this guy just doesn't know it's all ancient jew stories that hold little value in our society today.

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The Jews are Gods chosen people.

>>139188692
Bring it up with him ass muncher

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>>139181794
He admitted his friends are jewish and docked the JQ. He talks about communism while never stating the root cause of its jewish inception. Obviously buys into the jewish propagandas of hollywood nazis. He's purple pilled.

>>139187867
4chan meme'd themselves into being legitimate backward Nazis. Don't let your memes become your dreams.

>>139187950
Hitler did nothing wrong. He should've ejected the jews from europe, and the US.

>>139188531
>durr, durr, making habitable order from chaos and cleaning your room and giving me patreon-bux
Hitler fought against the scumbag usurer Jews that keep the world in debt and shot and killed the Marxists that JBP only complains about. That nigger failed to fight C16, let alone Russia, Britain, and the US put together. Now, on Canada, it's illegal to criticize Islam. But you can legally give a dog a blowjob.

But Christ almighty don't be evil collectivists and fight this together. Be divided individualists like so many dust particles scattering in the wind. That's been working great Jordan! More of that!

>>139189204
Right on man here's a (you)

>>139188692
Gorbachev didn't do anything.
The kikes fled the SU with all the majority of the wealth (buying up Hollywood, Universities, and other critical western infrastructure) this is the "internal sabotage" Gorbachev was speaking.
He merely accepted defeat after the betrayal. Not like the Soviets could really continue on once they got robbed blind by traitorous jews.

Then to add insult to injury the Jews came back and fucked Russia as hard as the could in the 90's by importing drugs and kidnapping women to be sold to Israel or such places etc, In general trying to kick them when they are down because they had a new vessel to control and didn't want to deal with potential backlash from Russians who might trend towards anti-communism. By treating them cruelly with capitalism it kept the Russian mindset as pro-commie. Even though the true commies (jews from Europe) completely fucked them over.

It almost sounds crazy saying it, but if you dig around enough. You'll discover its true.

>>139185989

Hitler was literally fluffy magic guys. He went to Moscow only to personally hand out flowers to its residents, certainly not to wage a war of annihilation against... well, everything. Too bad the world got in his way and forced him to do things he most certainly didn't really do, as we all know it.

>>139189204
>But Christ almighty don't be evil collectivists and fight this together. Be divided individualists like so many dust particles scattering in the wind.

Being divided individualists is exactly what Hitler did you idiot. He considered a large chunk of white Europeans to be "Untermensch" and sought to advance Germany's interests to the detriment of any other European people he saw fit.

>>139189575
Shoo shoo hungry kike

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>there are people in this thread right now who literally think Hitler was the good guy
>there are people in this thread right now who don't realize /pol/ is satire

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>>139189138
Thx for proving my point anon. It's like watching a monkey banging rocks together

>>139188370

I was going to try to answer at length, but feel too tired to do so, which I apologize for. All I can say is, that the blame for the First World War lies entirely upon Germany's shoulders; that Britain had previously had nothing but the best of intentions towards her, seeing her as her natural ally, in blood and religion, on the continent; that Germany created the hostile atmosphere between the two countries, scouted the idea of an alliance with us, and instigated a naval arms race; that the German press, generals, and academics openly talked of starting that war on the principle of "might makes right" and their being the "Master Race" years before it actually took place; that the Austrian ultimatum, with the sanction of Berlin, was the catalyst for the war itself, and that the invasion of Belgium, which the German government deceitfully continued to assure us was never going to take place until the very moment when it actually did, was the sole reason why Britain, ultimately, itself entered into it. The mutilation of France and a German victory on the continent would have posed a direct threat to the British Empire. They entirely deserved every condition stipulated by the Treaty of Versailles, and the small and debatable incidents you cite of Germany losing a little more territory here or there in the years ensuing do not affect the general drift of my argument that, by the time Hitler was in power, they had nothing more to fear by keeping to themselves and conducting themselves in a peaceful manner.

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>>139189658
>being this Jewed
The Allies won. The world went to shit. Your move.

Suppose the Axis had won. Envision Europe's subsequent migrant crises. Envision the (((EU))) so badly fucking its member states while a cabal of Jews pulls the strings.

Pro tip: you can't. Because there's not a single hooked nose, talmud, or koran in Europe.

>>139190272

Just so long as you are willing to live under a tyrannical German eugenics police state.

>>139190272
>well uh if the Axis Powers actually won...

Your argument is retarded because what they set out to achieve failed, because it was inferior strategy. They could not even win the goals of the war they set out to achieve and you're trying to imagine how, if they had done everything the same and yet somehow won in spite of this, things would have been great?

>>139190470

Of course. And if it's not working out, you can always blame the remainder of Jewry on the other side of the Atlantic.

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>>139181778
He's just throwing (((them))) off.

>>139190417
Eugenics programs were common in those days, they went out of fashion. America and Britain had some, too.

>tyrannical
>police state
Temporary measures. How do you successfully reform an economy, culture, and government shot through with hostile alien infiltrators and their propaganda? I guarantee you, not with an overly nice observation of civil liberties.

>>139190417
Prefer your little girls being passed around by Paki rape gangs, seeing acid attacks happen in London, bombs in Manchester, and people brought in for police questioning due to Facebook posts?

May will have you off 4chan entirely if she gets her way.

But at least you're not racist.

>>139190272
>The world went to shit.

my wold is amazing.
you are projecting your failure.

>>139181778
he can be bluepilled about Hitler and still worth listening to on other topics

baby, bathwater

>>139190470
These are called thought experiments anon. They're what imaginative individuals employ to field hypothetical scenarios. But let me go ahead and call you retarded as well so our discourse can be tit for tat.

>>139181778
>Hitler: muh Germany is suffering

Literally makes Germany suffer. His parents should have drowned him.

>>139190874
You've got low standards then degenerate.

>>139191084

you literally just said nothing

>>139189204
This

>>139191029
>is such a baby he thinks life should be free from discomfort, no matter the cost
Maybe take 5 minutes to research the economic conditions post-WWI before typing your thought-diarrhea.

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>Social scientist isn't an Historian
>only learns the mainstream narrative

Colour me surprised.

>>139191175
You literally used the word 'literally' in its opposite sense.

HE IS A JEW.


The most hated guy by pol is now promoting JEWISH propaganda and rhetoric nonsense in his other videos that arent direct propaganda.

>>139191327
Anyone who hasn't read Hitler's War has no business posting on \pol\ desu.

>>139190796

human engineered eugenics are literally impossible. JBP keeps bringing up IQ 82 as the cutoff for people unable to properly fulfill any role in the U.S. army. 10% of whites are below that score. how are you going to vasectomise 30 million people in a single generation? and even then, you still have people with way higher IQ's than that struggling with employment.

>>139190810

You may far more justly put the argument like this, "Was Hitler's gaining Danzig important enough to him to justify causing a war that killed 100 million people, and Germany subsequently to be wiped out by mass immigration in the 21st century, owing to liberal guilt over that same war."

By the way, I do not for a moment deny that our attacking Hitler in 1939 was a mistake, and that we should not have simply watched the Nazis and the Communists throw themselves at each other at a distance. But the point is that Hitler was the one that provoked that war by his actions. The dichotomy to British people in '39 was not the degeneracy of the modern world versus Hitler -- they did not foresee the society we live in today -- but (to their minds) either to let an irrational actor invade and conquer sovereign nations with impunity, and grow ever stronger and stronger until he would be able to conquer Britain as well, (and he had shown that his word meant nothing, so you are not to bring in his promises of friendship to us,) or to step in and put a stop to it after appeasement had already been tried to no good effect.

>>139181778
I don't necessarily see this as bashing the Nazis. It could also be interpreted as Hitler being evil because he caused to fall the Reich by choosing genocide over winning the war.
Maybe this guy is just hiding his power level. Who knows.

>>139191630
He could have slaughtered the British at Dunkirk. He let you go home. In an entirely dominant position, he then dropped peace leaflets over London. He had an irrational affection for England a d extended too many olive branches.
>tfw Hitler is too kind

>>139187893
What does his wife think about hin giving his children meme-names?

>>139191268
I know what the conditions were. Treaty of Versailles, blah blah. That fuck put them right back there. Now eat that diarrhea.

>>139181778
why are there smart people who still believe the kike lie

yeah what a retard ! Praise Kek Kekistan for life right guys ? :)
Fucking newfag filth

>>139181778
I am still hopefully waiting for JP to save Christanity. If anyone can do it, it'll be him

>>139181778
A crypto-jew that gets rich of a self help program hates Hitler, really makes me think!

>>139191916

The Hitlerite always puts the most favourable possible interpretation on every action of his idol.

"The reasons Hitler gave this “Halt Order” have never been fully agreed on, either by those living through the battle or historians after the fact. On the surface, it seemed like a halfway logical concept. The German troops had been fighting for two weeks straight without a break, something that an old Great War soldier like Hitler knew all too well. They needed time to rest, replace their losses and reorganize their forces, which had taken heavy losses in France. The German armor had outrun their infantry and supplies, having advanced much faster than expected, and were running out of fuel and ammunition. Also, the ground around the Dunkirk area wasn’t ideal for tank operations, full of the marshes and canals that had bogged down German soldiers in the First World War. The pause made sense to Hitler for another reason: Luftwaffe head Herman Goring had assured him that air power could wipe out the British on the beaches, and Hitler was all too happy to give him a chance."

We could have made the stipulations of the Treaty of Versailles ten times as harsh but were too compassionate not to do so. And what of that?

>>139192580

compassionate not to do so

read: to do so

>>139184467
how can anyone be this in the dark while posting on /pol/

>>139192168
>kvetching instinctually
You don't even care enough about what you're purporting to discuss to venture the semblance of an argument.

>>139192807
Not an argument, a statement. There's where you made a wrong turn.

>>139184114
Is there any truth to the infographic that shows Death-camps only in the Soviet occupied lands, and all the ones in Allied areas were Work-camps?

I feel like Peterson's dancing right on the edges of this.

I've done some sums and given a small amount of lumber, rope, unquestioning labour and diesel, I could genocide 6 million in a couple of months, without any evidence. The largest bottleneck would be supply.

The holocaust makes no sense to me at all.

>>139192580
Yes, in full retreat, and surrounded, the crafty British had the Germans right where they wanted them. That's Sun Tzu brilliance if I've ever read it.

Are you happy with the state of your nation? Moreover, are you even white? I will not talk to a paki or ching chong.

>>139181778
Based JBP is right again. Hitler was blinded by hate and an irrational retard

>>139193189

You have thoroughly bored me now.

>>139191461
My point was is that they were in vogue for a while, then went out of fashion.

Do you really think that Nazi Germany would have stayed frozen in time? Many of the things that seem outlandish to us now aren't particular to the Nazis, but were simply popular ideas and attitudes of the day. Other things about how the Nazi Party worked were necessary to rearm Germany before the Soviets arrived at their doorstep, when Germany was under a treaty that was supposed to forbid them from having a military at all. Still others were typical of countries at war in this time.

You'll misunderstand the Nazis very badly if you don't study the rest of the world at and before their time.

The history of technological progress is also important for context. Obviously, WW2 is notable as the last war before the invention of nuclear weapons, but it's also the last major war fought over food and the fear of starvation. Agriculture advanced terrifically after the Great Depression Dust Bowl, when people faced real hunger even in the USA. While we might be inclined to dismiss economic aggression today as not comparable to real war, in the time the Nazis rose to power it had the potential to be just as deadly as a shooting war, to kill vast numbers of people through hunger. People still starved in that time, and not only through a breakdown of local order or the viciousness of a government toward its own people. It was reasonable to respond to interference with trade with bullets and bombs.

>>139181778
Commie so mad that petterson blows him the fuck out that he larps as nazi

>>139181794
"Hitler should have enslaved the jews"
-Jordan B. Peterson, 2017

t. CBC, CNN, NYT, WP

>>139182242
Hes a fucking idiot that doesn't understand jack shit other then what is taught in jew books.

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>>139193283

>>139181794
He obviously hasn't looked into Nazism at all, yet he speaks with authority. What an ignoramous.

>>139182694
>>139186038

You do know that Hitler was not left or right you god damn faggot fuckheads from lebbit

>>139181778
i hate this con man
i dont get it how people listen to him

>>139181778
y-yeah its almost like he wouldnt do such a stupid thing... really made me think thx

>>139181778
all of the tens of nazi larpers on pol. its funny you by into all the shit posting here op

Ourguy is spot on here too

>Why the European State is Doomed (but Not the US)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MONZ2ewR7EY

>>139186347
>embecilles

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>ITT, cucks who can't admit Hitler was alpha as fuck

>>139192580
>We could have made the stipulations of the Treaty of Versailles ten times as harsh
WWI didn't end with a decisive German defeat, such that the Allied Powers could impose whatever terms they wanted. It ended with a German revolution, such that a bunch of socialist radicals ended up negotiating the terms of the surrender for Germany.

The Allied Powers hadn't set foot in Germany. They had a long, hard war ahead of them if they wanted to capture it. The outcome was by no means assured.

They couldn't enforce the absurd terms of the treaty as they were, but tried to make Germany adhere to them anyway, which is how they ended up fighting WW2.

>>139181778
Why do kekistanis keep posting this kike-cocksucking boomer here? This is getting annoying.

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>>139181778
wut?
they were made to work as slaves. Once they were too weak or slow, they were killed off. Why waist recourses feeding them? You honestly expect a gypsy or a jew to work hard labour? Jews maybe, white collar work, but gypsys?

>>139185030
proofs or gtfo

He doesn't know anything about WW 2 or how it worked. Auswitz was to get work for the Jews. The Jews were eliminated in the east by the rear guard to keep them from partisan/bolshevik sabotage.

>>139191630
>he had shown that his word meant nothing,
As already stated, read all 34 of David Irving's books and then come back.

>>139181778
>>139181794
this hitler guy.....is BAD

fuck him

>>139181778
Without intending to, Peterson is arguing that Hitler most likely wasn't aware of the conditions in the camps.

>>139182955
lol what a dumb cunt

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>>139181778

>>139193174
You can look up the camp names yourself, the infographic is correct. The only problem is that they were not all originally called death camps as some versions of the graphic claim. The 'death camp' narrative did not begin until well after the war, same with the gas chamber meme.
Secondly, if you have total control over a mass of people for an extended period of time and want them all to die with the least effort possible the final solution is actually extremely simple. Don't feed them. Don't give them water. The end. No gas, rope, or bullets required. The idea that you would feed and water milions of people you are hell-bent on exterminating is completely absurd.

>>139189138
he did try that first. blame all the other countries for preventing it