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Pidgin thread >what is pidgin? From wikipedia >A pidgin

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Pidgin thread

>what is pidgin?
From wikipedia
>A pidgin language is a grammatically simplified means of communication that develops between two or more groups that do not have a langauge in common

Essentially pidgin is any shitty illiterate dialect of a language as spoken by an uneducated non-native speaker
Think ebonics, but for people that people that grew up in a non-english household

>so? Whats new?
BBC is catering to the english-pidgin crowd and writing articles in pidgin. They are attempting to be inclusive of the shitskins but from the outside it looks racist and fucked up

Post Pidgin discuss Pidgin
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>>139166673
ooga booga me say nigger stinky stink
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>>139166843
Ooga booga raysis anon, you got normal talk, just make easy for small brain
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>>139166673
BEST FUCKING TIMELINE
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Cmon anon id eesee, evrybodi ged im own pidgin
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Pidgin languages are used across 4chan/the net . It's an interesting aspect of communication
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>>139167320
Eer de one dem pidgin read well well
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Sounds like Patois Jamaican but more fucked up.
At least with rastas you can understand WATTA DI FUCK DEM GON ON ABOUT.
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Easier to understand than Scouse or Geordie desu
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>>139166673
So this is what the world is like if we openly accept racial differences?

I dont know if i should celebrate or deride the fact that they are now openly considering africans to be subhuman illiterates. On one hand, its admitting the truth, on the other, it removes any compulsion for the blacks to strive for standard non-nigger behaviour.
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>>139166843
wen da first pot iz da best pot
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Dis ole ting is poopoo
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>>139166673
>Essentially pidgin is any shitty illiterate dialect of a language as spoken by an uneducated non-native speaker
Think ebonics, but for people that people that grew up in a non-english household
>They are attempting to be inclusive of the shitskins but from the outside it looks racist and fucked up

I really dont think you understand liberal ideology at all.

If some one asks you if you can translate into the language of the choice you do so. as long as profit exceeds cost. or there is no cost.

If there was a 75 million person market for bbc articles translated into Klingon they would do it.

There is nothing racist about translating... That only make sense if you hold beliefs that their language is lesser than yours.
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>>139171003
>implying anywhere near that many nigerians are going to read bbc news online.
I get where youre coming from about the profit thing, but if you show this to a common person with no context other than "its for africans that speak english poorly", I promise theyd think its racist.
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>>139166673
Alright my yout, mi and dis fine gyal decide we waan fi go park, we went pon swing, pon slide, and even have good time a bounce pon teeter-totter. Buoy, it fun mi tell yuh. Been long since we frolic ina park. We sit dung a ground fi have lunch, afta lunch she waan fi go home, so we went to her house fi watch movie and sinting. Mi tell you, the gyal mus be one freak, cause she jump pon my lap and start suck out mi face. After 5 minute the blood clot phone ring and mi answer. One rated man come yell ina mi ear, man was livid! Him say sumthing like 'YO STAR, A WEH YOU A DO WIT MI PICKEY?' Mi just give one sour look pon my girl face and ask a wuh dis man business? Gyal tell me her dad ded, him ina ground, ded, ded, ded. A WHO DI BUMBACLOT DEH PON MY PHONE
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dis am no good ting ta do
dey git dey wey out africa in ta dee urop and amriceh and noo we haf ta be puttin wun mah lengaj in all we sines
dis be hert me head bad ritin like dis
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>>139171003
how are you this fucking clueless?
>profit exceeds cost
bbc is government funded.
>75 million person market
that market comprises semiliterate and illiterate nignogs in one of the poorest countries on the planet.
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>>139171003
>a bunch of illiterate niggers will suddenly read my trash if I start writing in nigger tongue
let's be real here, they are doing it for the good goy points in diversity
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>the extent of Africans' learning abilities
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>>139166673
If I can understand this bastardisation of English as a non-pidgin speaker then why can't they do the opposite and just read English articles?
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>>139175248
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Is there even a standard spelling for this language, or is BBC making it up as it goes along?
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>>139171003
>That only make sense if you hold beliefs that their language is lesser than yours

Because that's what it is.

It's a dumbed-down version of English that removes nuances for context appropriate circumstances.

It's literally inferior.
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>>139175385
Keked
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We don't even have to do anything anymore they just make themselves look stupid an racist by writing things like this.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Pidgin
>The most important difference to other types of English is the limited repertoire of consonants, vowels (6) and diphthongs (3) used. This produces a lot of homophones, like thin, thing and tin which are all three pronounced like /tin/. This circumstance gives a high importance to the context, the tone, the body language and any other ways of communication for the distinction of the homophones.
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Have any of you seen the pidgin bible?
http://www.pidginbible.org/Concindex.html
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>>139175412
Considering they are also using improper punctuation like double periods for no reason, part of me suspects this might just be a big gag by some shitposter at BBC trying to see how far they'll let him him.
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>>139166843
Jigga Jigg Jigg sha klakklak sum ting sum ting
ur mama from Minnesota when you mix Starbucks with mayonaisse dyamn gurl you be a Trump suportttaaaaa!
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>>139166673
Broken English is an official language?

When is BBC going to do Ebonics. over 100 million niggers speak it
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How is this not racist. It's directly implying that people who speak different languages are too stupid to learn proper English, and that the only version they will ever understand it a directly dumbed down version.
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>>139175412
>>139175615
I see "thing" used, so they aren't just going phonetically.
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>>139176061

That's literally it, and it's hilarious.

Racism doesn't mean you have to have benevolent or malevolent intentions, just that you think it's inferior. And it is inferior.
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>>139175615
>yo senpai, gimme a language that conveys as little verbal information as possible

One race!
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>>139166673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a9o8GHcsck
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>>139166673
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>Airplen comin in da lan on di runwe, mag di room!
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I laughed so hard at this thread I feel sick. I can't believe it's real

>is da bbc noos an toodey der wos stabben en London please like us black people
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>>139174622
Wetin dem no day ban racist at dem /pol?
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>>139173035
BA WHO DEM PHONE!?
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>>139166843

Wen dey firsting of dey post is da bess post.
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>>139175678
>>139175615
>>139167650
>>139167320
>>139166673
We are now officially on the 40k timeline.
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
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>>139174622
Use your brain. If you were a Nigerian and all you had to read was shitty Nigerian produce media with production values slightly better than elementary school papers or the nationally funded BBC news service which would you read?

They were already tons of people who speak pigin reading it most likely. But it's probably just as uncomfortable to read for them as it is for us.
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>>139176581
I dont know why i found this so funny
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>>139176372
SWEDEN NO!!
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Does Grime count as 'Pigdin'. I thought it was all just urban yoof slang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdBx_m7qjwo
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>>139167320
>Laugh things
Nigger speak for comedy I guess.
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>>139172623
So ignorant people provided information without context will jump to I'll informed conclusions. That's a amazing prediction.
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>>139175445
And Australian dialect of English makes you sound slightly disabled.

Regional dialects don't need to be perfect because they aren't the language of law. Precision and consistency is not the objective.

In america we do everything important in metric but imperial units work fine for everyday use even though they are a cluster fuck.
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>>139175678
>"Da Peopo Do Wat Dey Not Suppose To Do"

>Dat time, from all da wild animals dat da God Yahweh wen make, da snake was da mos smart an sneaky one. One time, da snake tell da wahine, “Eh! Fo real, God wen tell you guys, dat from all da trees ova hea inside dis place, get trees dat you no can eat da fruits from dem, o wat?”

>race is only skin deep
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>>139176970
>>>139175678
>>>139175615
>>>139167650
>>>139167320
>>>139166673 (OP)
>We are now officially on the 40k timeline.
>>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

Don't get it
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ey mayne yel niggas bett'a not tolk shiet about pidgeon ill 'ave you flayed
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>>139175412
Okay, so supposedly there is a standard spelling:
>Naijá has its own sound system that is very similar to those of other English-based creoles of West Africa. The language also has its own spelling system. This spelling system or orthography was adopted by the NLA in 2009 as the harmonized way of writing Naijá. Note that all Naijá spellings used here are given in that spelling system.
http://www.hawaii.edu/satocenter/langnet/definitions/naija.html

But the BBC seems to be a little bit different, e.g. using "dey" instead of "dé," although perhaps that's just a variant in order to write stuff in ASCII characters, like writing German "ö" as "oe." I hope 4chan doesn't butcher this.
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>>139167650
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>>139177556
>And Australian dialect of English makes you sound slightly disabled.
no it doesn't, that's just because you don't completely understand our accents. the australian dialect is actually very complex, it just doesn't bother to dress it's complexity up in fancy ways.
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>>139166673
SISTA NANCY

BUM BOM BIGGA BIGGIE DO DOP YOP YOP POP YOP DA STOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I SAY BUM BOM BIGGA BIGGIE DO DOP YOP YOP POP YOP DA STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GETCHA JUMMA YUM INNA 40 OZ TUB

I SAY GETCHA JUMMA YUM INNA 40 OZ TUB
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>>139177792
>But the BBC seems to be a little bit different, e.g. using "dey" instead of "dé," although perhaps that's just a variant in order to write stuff in ASCII characters, like writing German "ö" as "oe." I hope 4chan doesn't butcher this.

Correction: It appears the "dey" being used frequently by the BBC (also in Wikipedia) is not the "dé" (is/are at) mentioned on the U. Hawaii site, but their "de" (progressive marker). So there are definitely different groups spelling the words differently.
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>>139167650
I wan look de pidgin computa cote fo de spate sal lite.
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>>139166673
Is this a step against newspeak?
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>>139171003
>75 million nogs who can't into reading or writing is the new market for bbc news online
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>>139166673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrZlWw8Di10
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>>139166673
mup da doo didda po mo gub bidda be dat tum muhfuggen bix nood cof bin dub ho muhfugga
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>be from hawaii

>pol finally finds out about pidgin

Ive been waiting for this day
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It looks like they're not even internally consistent with the spelling. I see "de" used all over the links and static headings that are the same on every page, such as:
>Waka go wetin de inside
>De one we dem de read well well
>De thing wey we de do
>How dem de take use am
>Mama and papa de check
>De external site no concern BBC De way wey we de take go external link/Link policy
But I've checked several articles, and I don't see a single usage of "de" in them. I think somebody used "de" for both "the" and the progressive tense marker ("is"/"are" in front of a verb) in the links/headings, but whoever translated the articles used "di" and "dey," respectively.
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>>139175385

B-but muh colonialism..it's all whitey's fault!
>sees haiti compared to dominican republic
The Wypipo still be holdin us down! Is all the cracka's fault!!
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>>139166673

Binks talk
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Why dey be Google not have de option for da Pidgin? Wey dey shud demand it from da wey racist crackaz. Let all us be rite to da Goog boss an ask for da langwage of are folk. Das rite!
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>>139166673
When you accommodate the bastardization of your native language, you facilitate the decline of your civilization.
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>>139177017
>>139176581

true story time: in the early 90's a friends father ran a single engine aircraft taxi service around the Torres Straight and the PNG highlands. He would regularly have to clean shit of the floor of the plane because the PNG Tribal Blacks couldn't handle air travel. Many of his passengers were only half a generation removed from cannibalism.
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>>139167650
Brainwashed leftists will try to tell you that this ''''''''language'''''''' is just as beautiful and nuanced as any real language.
Absolutely disgusting.
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Stump Speech
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>>139175742
>BREAKIN': SHIEEET NIGGA DEM TERRISTS DONE DID BLOWED SHIT UP FO REAL
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>>139176581
>the virgin pants
>the chad dick-holster
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Daily reminder that middle school children used to be able to write in higher level latin.

All University Theses prior to 1920 used to be in Latin. They're dumbing us down, folks. Soon, our own language will be unintelligible to us.
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>>139171003
>That only make sense if you hold beliefs that their language is lesser than yours.

That fucking doublethink. This previously only spoken language holds identical worth to English, German, French, Mandarin, etc. because thinking otherwise would be racist.

Thanks for reminding me why i hate these worthless cunts.
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http://wayback.archive.org/web/20111211002604/http://www.pijjin.com/
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>>139166673
>>139167320
>>139167650
This is literally Newspeak. It's not funny.
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>>139179024
>the australian dialect is actually very complex, it just doesn't bother to dress it's complexity up in fancy ways

well said
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>>139186346
Orwell didn't imagine how far Big Brother could get by screeching "dats rayciss" at his detractors
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https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bbc-digital-pidgin-language-service
https://archive.is/21oXS

How do you go about writing down a language that is almost entirely oral? For the staff of the BBC World Service's new Pidgin news site, it all started with listening. Lots of listening.

Despite being spoken by an estimated 75 million people in Nigeria alone – and as a first language for five million people – Pidgin has, until this week, been marginalised online. "In terms of its text life it lives pretty much on social media," says Miriam Quansah, BBC's digital lead for Africa.

To begin the process of converting a primarily oral language into an agreed written form, the World Service interacted with people across Africa who spoke it.

The team who built the service (some of whom can translate Shakespeare into Pidgin) travelled to west Africa to speak to young people, visit universities and consult professors and experts in the area to observe how they communicate.

Quansah, who leads the digital aspect of the project, says standardisation is an evolving thing, reliant on audience feedback. "It’s a very interactive language and that was our approach; we know that everyone will have an opinion on the Pidgin we produce so we will ask speakers to tell us whether we are using certain words and phrases in the right way."

The service will bring language diversity to the news and current affairs that west and central African audiences receive, where Pidgin is one of the most widely-spoken languages.

Adverts, radio stations, films and music are already produced in Pidgin, but news organisations have traditionally shunned it.

West African Pidgin English was used as a simple trade language between Europeans and Africans during the Atlantic slave trade in the late 17th and 18th centuries. It became a mix of English and local languages, which is why it's often offensively referred to as broken English.
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>>139190832

Despite its popularity, people speak Pidgin with varying levels of fluency. And, as it is not studied in schools, it doesn't exist in a standardised written form. Because Pidgin is seen as an informal language, there is sometimes a stigma around speaking it, which Quansah thinks the new service is helping to break.

"There is a stereotype in some parts of the continent about being honest that Pidgin is your first language; people prefer if you speak English. In Nigeria however, people are very proud of speaking Pidgin," says Quansah, whose own Ghanian mother was skeptical about the project. "West African parents don't see Pidgin as a serious language, so they were stunned to find out the BBC were doing this. They get it now that they see so many people consume and live this language."

The decision to make this a digital only service was based on the fact that African people prefer to read content on their mobile phones. "We have always wanted to be able to offer relevant content to a younger audience and to an audience that is under-represented in the media landscape across Africa," Quansah says. "Being digital only and using the languages we are now going into enables us to offer important news and current affairs to audiences we may not have reached before."

Although Pidgin is spoken in different forms across Nigeria, Ghana, Cameroon and Equatorial Guinea, there are a lot of words that unify them all. Quansah says the World Service team are "remarkably and pleasantly surprised" by the amount of text content they have been able to produce, but that BBC Pidgin’s long-term success will be in a visual form, including video and data journalism. "If we are telling stories that can touch an audience in Sierra Leone, Benin, Ghana or Nigeria then we are doing our jobs," she adds.
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>>139190854

Pidgin will soon be joined by 11 more new services in Africa and Asia, as part of the World Service's biggest expansion since the 1940s, thanks to a 2016 funding boost from the UK government.

BBC Pidgin will provide a mix of local, regional and international news current affairs and analysis. The production hub is based in Lagos, the commercial capital, but reporters in Ghana, Cameroon and elsewhere in Nigeria will also be gathering local news.

Other new languages that will be offered by the BBC World Service include Korean, Gujarati, Telegu, Marathi and Punjabi for India and Amharic and Oromo for Ethiopia and Tigrinya for Eritrea.
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>The Breetish Braidcastin Corporation (British Broadcasting Corporation in Inglis, kent an aw as the BBC) wis foondit in 1927 bi means o a Ryal Chairter. The day the BBC is the naitional publicly fundit braidcaster o the Unitit Kinrick. It maks programmes an braidcasts on televeesion, radio, an the Internet.

>The BBC operates the UK's ae dedicatit politics chainel forby kiverin ongauns in the Breetish Hooses o Pairlament, The Scots Pairliament, Northren Ireland Assemmly an the Welsh Assemmly. The chainel is kent as BBC Parliament.

Can you believe how these silly black people talk? Fucking illiterates! So unlike us white people!
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>>139166673
This is insane. I can understand Trini-speak but this shit literally sounds like Orkish,
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