Deontology vs utilitarianism Which is superior ethical

>>139119277
Christianity.

deontology as a means to utilitarianism

Virtue ethics.

>>139119459
why?
>>139119957
what did he mean by this
>>139119963
why?

>>139119459
fpbp

>>139119459
Deontology is compatible with christianity

>>139120357
All individual deontological preferences are de facto utilitarian.
Fulfillment of deontological preferences is a means to an end, and that end is utilitarian in an individual and/or group regard.

>>139119277
Is Alan Moore redpilled?

>>139119277
Clearly contractarianism is better.

I don't know what those things are because I'm not moderntarded, but the correct answer is Platonism

>>139120915
>t. being a faggot is morally acceptable as long as everyone agrees to it.
>>139120716
> individual deontological preferences
deontology is universal, you don't get make up what's right and wrong, like in utilitarianism and contractanarianism

>>139119277

Where's the conflict between the two? Why not use both views?

>>139122219
>deontology is universal
Is it written in the sky, or on the surface of atoms?

>you don't get make up what's right and wrong

But that's what everyone does all the time in normative ethics, especially in deontology. Actions are defined as right or wrong by all kinds of actors and thinkers.

>>139122647
utilitarians say actions can only be wrong if the consequences are bad, and that maximzing good is most moral ie "do whatever you want as long as you don't hurt anyone" and they'd pull the lever to hit less people in the trolley dilemma

Deontologists say that the consequences are secondary, what matters is the principle. ie in the trolley dilemma they'd refuse the pull the lever, since they be liable for the death of one person.

"Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law."

>>139123445
>But that's what everyone does all the time in normative ethics, especially in deontology. Actions are defined as right or wrong by all kinds of actors and thinkers.

elaborate on this

>>139119277
The hook gun of Rorshack is made by Dr Manhattan.

>>139123966
Well, all kinds of normative judgments are unavoidably subjective. People are free to refer to God, some kind of writing, or any kind of exterior source - but in the end all normative judgments are formed in the minds of men. That's one of the few "universal" qualities of normative ethics. Even though there are general patterns in what people in general consider to be "universally" right or wrong, there isn't any objective basis for it. The subjectivity of ethics is fundamental.

In the end, moral actors create value judgments based on their own preferences that are part of an individually utilitarian mechanism inside their mind - and they are then both a product of a utilitarian biological system, as well as a means to an end to maximize certain conditions within the mind of that moral actor.

>>139124140
No it isn't, frog. It's made by Nite Owl II.

>>139126325
To be fair, the technology needed to create the grapple-hook gun would not exist if Manhattan had not come along.

>>139119277

Virtue ethics you fool.