How do we stop the rise in popularity of totally moronic ideology

Don't be a fascist

>>139115193
its not getting more popular but it is getting dumber. Just let them do their thing.

>>139115193
Start a lynch mob and hang antifa faggots until they get the idea.

>>139115193
best way to get rid of Anti-Facists.....get rid of Fascism....

>>139115229
I'm against any type of authoritarian rule, but fascism's main difference from marxism is that fascism identifies and expands upon things that its government deem as "good for the nation" where marxism/communism is obviously blind equality of outcome

>>139115359
bad idea

>>139115193
it will eat itself

>>139115411

That's cool. Doesn't change the answer tho.

>>139115381
>>139115229
But I'm not talking about the fact that there are people opposing fascism. I'm talking about the anarchist ideologies that seem to come with it

>>139115381
That wouldn't get rid of Antifa. As an aside, it's inherently dishonest for 'skeptics' to compare Antifa and Fascism because our primary grievances aren't with Marxism. Theirs is, which is why they make 2-4 hour videos of intellectual masturbation to Feminist Frequency in 2017.

>>139115611
dont be a facist and they won't have a reason to be popular

>>139115193
>Capitalism or the Free Market
Anyone else kind of pissed that these two are constantly misconstrue to be the same thing?

Not a commie, but capitalism isn't all that different from feudalism only in that instead of agriculture we now have the service industry. Free market though, that shit is awesome.

>>139115193
"I don't like paying taxes that go towards welfare"
"Leave the USA"

>>139115990
First of all I already said I don't support any type of authoritarian rule, which discounts fascism. Second of all, I don't think there is an actual self-identifying fascist group that is a big enough threat to warrant having anti-fascist groups in every major city. And as >>139115861 pointed out, AntiFa probably wouldn't be satisfied even after they "smash the fash"

>>139116075
Actually that picture says AND, not or

>>139116204
wanting change within a system is not the same as wanting a total upheaval of that system

>>139115193
Trust that I would gladly become a Swiss Citizen. Land of the Free!
>Can't grow food in your front lawn in most places.
>Collecting Rainwater is a crime in many places
>Can't practice my spirituality by using Psychedelics.
>Prison system capitalizes on suffering.
>Populace
>Guns are overpriced to shit. Used to get romanian full auto AKs for 250
>Can't grow Weed to treat pain or anxiety
>Alcohol! The drug that dumbs you down the most!
>Most Citizens so loyal to the state they support cops blindly
>Get arrested for operating a lemonade stand
>Too pussy to riot for fair wages.

I've met several of you pollacks in real life. All of you are washed up has beens yearning for you 80's or 90's youth. Or fat fucks that live at moms.

I punked 3 of you pussies out for talking shit to a tranny.

So pol shit aside. Why is America good? This isn't a free country. We're not top ten in any thing good.

>>139116271
Getting rid of taxes and welfare does sound like a total upheaval you stupid moron
Most of these people also want change, at least they have the balls to go out and be radical about it unlike your meme-making coward ass

>>139116315
>Why is America good?
I could make an argument here but you would easily sum it up as "muh constitution" and dismiss it, even though its a totally valid reason why America has potential to be the best and freest nation

>>139116271
>AntiFa probably wouldn't be satisfied even after they "smash the fash"
who cares, your question is how to stop them from getting popular. start by not being a popular target

>>139116315
>Can't practice my spirituality by using Psychedelics.
>Alcohol! The drug that dumbs you down the most!
>Most Citizens so loyal to the state they support cops blindly

Sort yourself out, and stop behaving like a nigger.

>>139116467
Has the potential. Yet the rights are not granted by a slip of paper. They're granted by nature/god.
What is America today? A Republic of harsh freedom having lost its way to Corporatism that is slowly drifting into a Fascism for profit alone.

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>>139115229
>>139115381
>>139115990

Anita-fascist is not their true nature, it is just more palatable to the general public than calling themselves what they really are.

These communist agitators will continue pushing for their revolution with or without fascists. They'll just move on to the next "enemy of the people".

They won't be satisfied until they're running gulags full of anyone that ever disagreed with them about anything.

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>>139115193
I was thinking.
Leftist ideas are usually just lazy.

It is like a religion, where it is more important to divide the world in us and them and virtue signal ones own piety, but not by actually hard work.
Instead it allways devolves into lazy "Ersatzhandlungen" - redirection activities.
They hold a sign "refugees welcome" but then never show up at the refugeecenter to do the dirty work.
They "fight" against discrimination but are never to be seen when women are forced under the burka.
They complain about world wide economic exploitation, but are contempt to buy junkfood in a pastel-green colored plastic bag.

Like pic related.
They create cushy positions just to dumb down their allready dumb drivel. (which is actually pretty racist, if you think about it)

>>139116460
Are you suggesting that the mask-wearing, mantra-chanting, brainwashed group known as AntiFa is BRAVE for what its doing? They suppress dissenting speech and incite violence, and take checks from Soros after their long hard days of work

>>139116572
I'm not a fascist, and I've never heard anybody besides the one dude who came on molyneux talk who even claims to be one.

>>139116679
>A Republic of harsh freedom having lost its way to Corporatism
agree
>slowly drifting into a Fascism for profit alone
who are you suggesting profits here? I don't understand your argument and I don't think that it's true.

>>139115193
kill all facists.
Antifa disappears.
Antifa is a fucking meme desu, invented by the right wing. I know the narrative here is Soros funds them, which is objectively stupid. They are funded by someone connected to Trump. Not sure who yet, but by design they are to make the left look bad in the media.

>>139116836
Oligarchs that don't give a fuck about the average person. Power is one of the better drugs. Money is just a means to an end, but it can provide meaning for a nice power structure in play. We're no longer Americans. We've let a constructed media world divide into US and Them.
We should embrace the harshness of Freedom. Yet we won't. Some one else always has to fix the problem. People too often forget, change is within them. Not Legislation.

>>139116628
Hello Pot.

>>139116836
Sounds badass to me
What have you done for your cause ? You think internet activism means shit ?

>>139115381
>implying they really hold "anti-fascist" views
Uhm, if it hasn't dawned on you already sweetie, the just call themselves "anti-fascist" to give the impression that they are fighting against something evil but in reality they are fighting for their own ideology which most likely is marxism

>>139116836
Suppose my argument would be that at the expense of land. We're going for short term comfort. DAPL. Suburb expansion. State forcing this to be by arresting people for local businesses with out liscensing. Unable to sell your own grown food with out it being at a farmers market. Chances are if you decide to rip up a road and repave it in a day with 10-20 people? You're all getting fined and going to jail.

No emphasis on self contained power units.

>>139116271
Fascism is less authoritarian than the present system. Free speech and Habius Corpus should be an absolute, and our government shouldn't be able to spy on us via counter-terrorism legislation because there should be no Muslims in Britain.

Fascism doesn't represent authoritarian rule, but true leadership in which the government can carry out the will of the people without party politicians and lobbyists getting in the way. Fascist government retains personal freedom better than liberal democracy does.

>>139117156
>>139117156
>doesn't matter what you stand for as long as you stand for it
Nice one cuck

>>139117446
>Fascism /ˈfæʃJzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce
>also Hitler took the guns
idk man I just dont really feel fascism.

>>139117317
>>139117125
So you're saying that elites and oligarchs are running the country into the ground but the only solution is "change within"? I don't see enlightened people having much affect on that, except that it would make them more likely to favor legislation to help themselves

>>139115193
>Antifa
>popular

Literally no normal people agree with them. There is a reason they have to pay their protesters and buss them in.

I want a cogent fucking definition of Fascism from these illiterate shitbags. What, exactly, in bullet-point format, is Fascism. What do I have to look for? How do I spot it? To these skinnyjean mean machines, If you ask these questions...you're a Fascist.

>>139117669
The idea is to realize. A law is a law only because it is constructed to be a law and believed.
To disbelieve on mass. Nullifies certain authorities.

>>139117669
t. kikes
Why don't you try reading some Giovanni Gentile or Mosley instead of quoting Google at me?

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>>139115193

Turning off the tap

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Bump, we finnaly have a political thread don´t let this die

>>139116905
Imagine being this delusional

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>>139115193

>>139117992
Not jewish. That was wikipedia. And I only used it because its a generally well accepted definition of fascism. Do you think it does an unfair job of describing it?

>>139117983
Right, it would kind of require the law enforcement to disbelieve en mass as well though.
But what laws are you saying we should stop believing in?
>>139118968
t. triggered schizo

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>>139117961
Fascism is an economic middle-ground between capitalism and socialism. It takes from capitalism self motivation and meritocracy, and from socialism the belief in providing basic needs. Unlike socialism however, fascism believes that only productive citizens and the elderly should receive benefits. Fascists believe that industries vital to the nation are nationalized and organized into a corporate state, in order that workers may negotiate with business for better conditions and wages, with the state serving as a mediating force if an agreement can't be made, or if intervention has to be made to prevent harm to the nation, other industries, or other people.

Fascism believes in meritocratic leadership rather than the party system we have today, which is backed by wealth. Fascist leadership has greater authority, with greater accountability. Under a fascist system, the leader could be indited by a vote in parliament, or at the ballot box.

Fascists are non-interventionist that believe in a deeply nationalized economy, which makes every good it can within the nation and prevents foreign markets from destroying the nation's industry. And while fascists believe in private property, we oppose non-commercial foreign investment.

Socially, we believe in racial and cultural unity and homogeneity, as well as the promotion of a common good, such as ending poverty, obesity or drug abuse, as a national effort to be tackled by government and media. We also promote classical values, moral absolutes and ideals for people to follow.

>>139119290
The same Wikipedia that paints black nationalism as a heroic struggle against an oppressor class, and white nationalism as villainous racial hatred. See: >>139119450

>>139119450
>Fascists believe that industries vital to the nation are nationalized and organized into a corporate state
>state serving as a mediating force if an agreement can't be made, or if intervention has to be made
so how exactly does this cast doubt on wikipedia's definition? From my perspective it only supports it
>dictatorial power
>government control of media and commerce

>>139120167
1. It isn't absolute or totalitarian control, which is the definition of dictatorship, if the leader can be removed by a vote of censure or the people, and if a separation of powers is retained, as it would've been under British fascism.
2. Fascism isn't more authoritarian than the present system which doesn't offer the people true free speech, the right to not be detained without charge or trial, the right for the government not to spy on the people in their private lives, etc.
3. Fascism isn't state control of industry and commerce, but the economic leadership of a nation. Private enterprise is permitted, as with the present system. The only difference is that worker's protections and salaries are negotiated between workers and corporations, rather than imposed from on high by the state.

>>139115193
Why contain it?

Antifa has driven more people right wing than Hitler himself.