I'm an actual traditional Leftist. I believe and follow

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>>139030762
No reason to ask a retard questions

>>139030762
Go back to plebbit.

>>139030762
Where's your "property is theft" if you're a traditional leftist?

>>139030762
Why are you a Nazi?

>>139030762
Classic liberalism is centrist my friend, and most people here are classic liberals, they're just too retarded to know it

>>139031503
What?

>>139031549
Nah we're all based magapedes

>>139031549
L.O.L.

>>139031604
Wow this thread was worth the wait...
Nice response

>>139030762
Classical liberalism is right-wing you retard.

>>139031752
Liberals get the bullet too

>>139031686
What do you expect from a glorified libertardian, Anon.?—looks good at first but falls apart under any significant scrutiny.

This is going swimmingly.
Instead I will answer questions about anything.

Go ahead anons: AMA.

>>139032049
when did you get red pilled?

>>139032049
What state are you from?
I need to know if youre a nigger or not

>>139031647
Are you saying you don't believe in free market economics, freedom of speech, freedom of the press and limits to government power?

You're a fuckin' liberal, may as well admit it now cuckboi

>>139031686
His question wasn't coherent

>>139032474
I don't believe in democracy. I reject the enlightenment.

>>139031549
this

act hard on anime image boards but just quietly condone the status quo in public.

That's why globalism is winning. And that's a good thing.

>>139030762

Liberalism is dead. Totalitarian communists killed it. What are you going to do now?

>>139032474
The "Enlightenment" was a mistake, Anon.

>>139032238
Different pills at different stages.
The first was in the 90s in southern California as the illegals took over whole neighborhoods and then cities.

My redpill on Islam came from talking to lots of them online over the last 10 years as well as the non-muslims living in Muslim countries.

My pill on the current system and the media came after viewing a documentary on Ron Paul's run. Before that I had assumed they were simply incompetent, after that I realized they were malicious.

>>139031831
Classical liberals and modern social liberals couldn't be more different, anon.

>>139032248
I am a utard.

>>139032616
>quietly condone the status quo in public.

Don't go in public with me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLSPVy--M-I

>traditional
>leftist
pick one

>>139030762
Liberalism and left pol, select one you can't be both.

>>139032975
A libertardian is just a "liberal" on steroids.

>>139032954
>The first was in the 90s in southern California as the illegals took over whole neighborhoods and then cities.
Remember based Pete Wilson?

Presaged Trump in a lot of ways. A lot of Trump's campaign staff were from California. That Prop 187 ordeal lingered in their minds.

Check out Pete Wilson's campiagn ads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLIzzs2HHgY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZI7Q2pduUI

>>139032568
Many people here say they reject it, yet they follow the vast majority of it's ideals.

>>139032935
I agree, but /pol/ posters are libcucks all the way. I mean look at those post capped trump threads non-stop, supporting the liberal president.

>>139033170
As, so it's the drugs they are after! I knew it!

>>139033170
Oh, look, it's another teenager here to tell me how the world works.

>>139033251
Classical conservatisim as it is sometimes called is not the preferred political system of the multitude ever, Anon. That's why the Lord equipped us with better organising ability, so that we may punch harder pound-for-pound. ;)

>>139033283
...Said the parasite.

>>139032855
Continue to live my life by my own ethics which have been crafted on classical liberalism

>>139033234
I do!
I remember on poling day there were cholos driving up and down the streets waving Mexican flags. I know of a few people who changed their minds on the way to to pols because of that and voted for 187.

how do you feel free speech should be applied in today's world? the founding fathers couldn't anticipate the Internet, where it's technically possible to set up your own server if you want but realistically you need to be on major private platforms if you want to be part of the public conversation with a significant audience

>>139033648
Whew. What a quality argument. So are you still in high school or did you graduate last year?

>>139030762

Classical liberalism is a right wing position. Not judging either way but liberalism is not a left wing ideology or economic doctrine.

>>139033961
>implying anyone should take a parasite seriously
Anon....

>>139030762
I'm an actual traditional Anarcho-Capitalist. I believe and follow the principles of REAL classical Anarcho-Capitalism.

I'm an attention whore and seek validation. Ask me anything.

>>139033792
And Prop 187 passed! Then Grey Davis killed it by refusing to enforce it.

Eventually the California legislature illegally took it off the books (passed CA referendums not supposed to be modifiable by legislature).

The California referendum system is a tragedy and a clusterfuck, but goddamit we won that one and it ended up not mattering.

>>139034211
meant grey davis refused to DEFEND it in court.

>>139034111
How do you like dem digits?

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>>139034056
>I got BTFO so let me see if calling him a parasite will work

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Classical liberal and race realist checking in.

>>139030762
If you're a classical liberal, then you fall on the right of the political spectrum.

>>139034211
>The California referendum system is a tragedy and a clusterfuck, but goddamit we won that one and it ended up not mattering.

Extremely frustrating. CA would be a damn near a paradise if they had just enforced it. The whole thing was extremely eye opening to me. It wasn't even a close vote iirc, and they just ignored it.

>>139034480
I always call libertardians and An.-Caps. "parasites," because that's what you are, Anon.

Your systems don't work because nobody wants to risk anything on a parasite, even another parasite.

classical liberalism is right wing not left wing

>>139030762
Why do you love nigger cock so much

>>139034788
I didn't say I was either of those you inexperienced little faggot

>>139031645
get off the 4chan before your mom sees :)

>>139035157
Or before you see your mom over on /soc/

>>139034539
Why is it that people such as yourself never seem to appreciate how the founders of the United States were all born in a monarchy with an established church? I mean, that's the reality of it, you know.

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>>139030762
>classical liberalism
>left

>>139035028
>he calls others homosexuals when it's he who is the actual homosexual in this conversation
Typical libertarian waste of air.

>>139035461
Political science is dead, Anon. It's all ethnic conflicts now...

>>139035320
This is going to blow your mind, anon.

The founders of the United States were unambiguously classical liberals.

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>>139034757
>>139034900

FOR ALL OF YOU SAYING CLASSICAL LIBERALISM IS RIGHT WING AND NOT LEFT WING

The left/right continuum has shifted over time. Intentionally manipulated by socialists and progressives.

The traditional split was between the claims to authority by king, religion and nobility. This was the way of the world and most thought it was natural and right for these hierarchies of authority to exist.

Along comes liberalism during the enlightenment. Liberalism is liberal, meaning liberty. It was defined as the right of the individual to be free of the authoritative controls of these traditional hierarchies. It was the right of the individual to own property, speak freely, enter into contracts, etc. without imposition from the old centers of power.

Although liberalism went a long way in England it was the American experiment that provided a crystallization of the classical liberal philosophy. Liberalism was also identified as being on the left in a continuum of individual freedom verses vested authority.

Fast forward to modern times and socialist/communist assholes started mangling language to make their shitty ideas more palatable. So America ends up with liberal meaning socialist/progressive (which is authoritative, btw) and liberals have to start calling themselves libertarians or "classical" liberals!

Add to this the libertarian philosophy ends up being championed by conservative Republicans in America, who only partially adopt the philosophy while simultaneously imposing their own sorts of authoritarianism! (ie laws against sex and drugs.)

So that is why classical liberalism is considered both left and right.

You're welcome.

I'm going to "hide post" all your stuff from now on, parasitic libertardian.

>>139035845
At any rate, dualistic thinking—left vs. right—is degenerate. It also ignores ethnic identities, Anon.

>>139035845
Terms right-wing and left-wing come from which side of French parliament various sides sat on.

The classical liberals like Bastiat were on the right.

>>139035852
>hiding from facts which demolish your worldview

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>>139035852

I'd like to see the cache where you hide things. Must be a lot of good stuff in there.

>>139030762
Do you like being cucked?

Paganism could be considered classical liberalism as well, but it is far too disorganised and attracts an unbalanced number of far too many wanna-be choleric types to succeed in an age of advanced technology.

>>139030762
You're an ACTUAL attention whore, double nigger faggot. Noone gives a fuck, go back to pleddit.

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>>139036318

Yes, you're right about that. But in America the definition of right became those associated with the crown (often against the Revolutionary war) as opposed to the individualists who wanted freedom in the classical liberal sense.

The language on this is a general clusterfuck. Which is why I think its best to think in terms of authoritarian vs individual freedom. Classical liberal and non-violent anarchists are the far end of individual freedom (which doesn't include anarchist communists who ultimately advise a kind of democratic collectivism which is authoritarian)

>>139030762
why do you think people give a shit about what you do or don't believe in?
no, seriously, why are you so conceited?

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>>139030762
>ask me anything
>only response was, "What?"
>sage this bullshit thread

>>139036620
Classical liberalism arose from Protestantism.

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>>139037519

There is some truth to that. The reformation had people rethinking their position relative to authority. Taking away the authority of the Catholic church to dictate spirituality, returning it to the individual. That was the start of what became a new conceptualization of the individual independent and protected from the authority of church and king. Classical liberalism.

>>139037519
Anon., what you seem to be telling me is that you're on a road which leads to spending an eternity in Hell.

>>139037888
Undercover Jesuit detected.

>>139030762
>>139037270>>139037519
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>>139038419

I'm actually an atheist. Why do you call me an undercover Jesuit?

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>>139030762
Please don't breed.

>>139030762

sage, cuz this doesn't belong in /pol/
Traditional leftist like Bill Ayres?

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>some-one who promotes classical liberalism

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Another character who likes classical liberalism so much.

>>139030762
Could you kill yourself?

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>>139038924

In America the Republican establishment mostly hates classical liberalism. It deprives them of authority to wage their wars, give corporate hand-outs and restrict people from drugs and prostitution.

The left is even more contemptuous of classical liberalism, believing it is just a cover for greedy capitalists who hate the poor, hate education, hate organized labor, etc.

I would say it qualifies as politically incorrect. The National Socialist swill that floats around /pol/ is far more popular than classical liberal once the racism is removed.

So basically you edgelord faggots thinking the anti-semitism and white identity makes you unique when in every other sense you are pathetic socialist authoritarians. Common as dirt.

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>>139039662
wow ur so unique because you listen to le sargoy for 8 hours a da- I mean you totally think for yourself man I sure love muh freedom and democracy they have lead to the wonderful totally not degenerate society we have now

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>>139039586

Are you fucking morons capable of anything but character attacks?

Classical liberalism founded America and did make us great. Pretty much every problem we have today stems from our deviation from it. Read my graphic:

>>139034539

Yes, hating Catholicism is, in a sense, part of the classical liberal tradition. This was only because there was a time when Catholicism fought to maintain its authority using government force. Once this was no longer a threat and Catholicism was treated like every other religion, which meant it had to appeal to voluntary choice and not use force, the hatred for it went away.

In fact, some of the most visible and articulate proponents of classical liberalism (ie libertarianism) are Catholic, eg Tom Woods and Judge Napolitano