Why do you think it's so important to have kids? You save

>>138745331
>Me and my gf swear off ever having kids
good, two less defective individuals in the genepool

the problem solves itself

The species is going to be extinct within two centuries, anyway. Having kids at this point is just cruel.

I have a vasectomy. I've never wanted kids and after coming here, I realized that I won't be giving Jews another source of income and labor.

It's missing a fourth panel where the female dies alone, scared, and abused in a nursing home because she has no relatives to care or be there for her.

Me and my wife have a one year old that I'm planning to raise as a proud white skinned human.

>>138745548
It's a pretty big gamble to hope your kids will give a shit about you.

>>138746127
It's only natural they will unless your and/or they are a piece of shit.

>>138746127
I guess if you're a shitty parent.

>>138746471
Even if you aren't, people leave their parents in nursing homes all the time. The (((economy))) kinda forces them too.

>>138745548
this, its actually pretty sad. my great aunt and uncle dont have kids, their in their 80 now and we always invite them over for birthdays/Christmas and such, they dont have anyone else to spend it with. my parents are taking care of them in terms of driving them around when they need to go out of the city, giving them options of retirement homes and such, because they reached a point where they need the help of younger people, but there's just no one else to help them. really is fucking sad. wive cant cook worth shit too, never did, so they always go on about our home cooked meals when they stay over, she doesn't even own a stove.

>>138745331
>You save so much time and money
I'm glad irresponsible poorfags like you who can't into time management aren't having kids. World is better this way

>you should focus this time on yourself and having fun, not changing poopy diapers
except that children are a ton of fun once they grow up to enjoy the things you enjoy by passing things on. They're not babies forever unless you're a shitty parent, which you shouldn't have kids in the first place

>>138746127
>It's a pretty big gamble
shit parents don't deserve it, don't have kids then

>>138746644
then teach your kids not to make poor economic decisions, not just for their sake but for you own

>>138745452
This.

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>choosing a life of hedonism instead of continuing the bloodline that your parents and their parents sacrificed blood, sweat, and tears to pass on to you
ISHIGGYDIGGY

>>138745452
this.

>>138745331
They have treatments for low t nao u no (I'll just pretend you aren't an old bag in disguise)

>>138746127
my dad was an asshole and I still give a shit about him. you have to fuck up pretty hard to lose any respect from your kids.
Basically show up everyday, and at least pretend to give a shit, and your kids will probably turn out all right.

>>138745331
It's important on an individual level because sane beings feel the desire and feel rewarded for creating and rasing their own children and ignoring said impulses is dangerous on one's own psychosomatic health; while the absence of this desires often denote stumped emotional development, straight up biological imbalances and stressful environment.

moving past the individual desire, there're also people who value the human race and culture as something worth preserving due to ideology expanding a similar importance the self gives to itself to the group he's part of, the absence of this desire may denote an isolated upbringing and sociopathic characteristics on top of the lack of empathy.

a similar empathetic groupthink is the one telling people to desire doing what the others do, this applies to having babies, but you can often see it abused for marketing purposes.

finally we have the ones willing to make babies just to have someone to have power over, receive advantageous opinions and situations from the society they are in and to have someone looking for them in their old age.

>tl;dr
because normally you want to and value giving life to someone and preserving what you're part of

if you don't want to, that's fine, just avoid ending up adopting someone, you'd be terrible parents.

>>138745331

>those little snot nosed brats

Why do people always force a deprecating attitude towards children in order to justify not having children?

I wouldn't mind having children, but I'm most likely not going to. Women, their abuse of the government and disregard for marriage have ruined everything.

>Get married
>Have kids
>Spend all money and time with senpai and kids.
>Wife decides one day she wants to fuck someone else.
>Takes house that you bought and paid for.
>Takes kids.
>Makes you pay a monthly settlement directly out of your wages for kids and her.
>You are left with no home, no money, paying for kids you never see while your ex wife slams jamal.

That is the future for 60% of men who get married.

>>138746644
This happens for the 'economy' reason if the elderly person in question has serious medical needs that a working family can't provide. Otherwise having the elderly in the home is economically more viable than sending them away if they have retirement or SS checks. And that's ignoring other utility of having them around.

I grew up with my grandparents and not only did they help with keeping the house in order and contribute to keeping the house running in general, they would watch me and my siblings if my parents couldn't since they both worked. They weren't expected to babysit all the time on my parent's whim; if they wanted to go somewhere for a fun weekend or something they'd go and my parents would deal.

The real (((scheme))) is splitting families away from mutual collectivism with a strong family core. Having families is a longterm investment and doesn't reap immediate rewards but in the twilight years, or hell in the terrible event some horrible accident occurs. If that happens there's family to fall back on and help you as long as you personally weren't a shit to your family.

I'm sure a life of hedonism and instant gratification won't leave you full of regrets on your deathbed.

>>138750684
>Why do people always force a deprecating attitude towards children in order to justify not having children?
They fundamentally hate themselves and their own poor moral choices. They then project this negative emotion outward, onto their possible future children, rather than engage in painful self reflection and face hard truths.

>>138751336
I'm surprised I never thought about it that way, makes so much sense now.

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>>138745331
>haviing to share that wealth
Hahah fuck no
Either I continue my bloodline or don't get married, whores need not apply

>>138750908
That's because 60% of men will stick their dicks in the first whore that spreads her legs. But hey, I hear she gave a mean blowjob or whatever.

>>138745331
>committing demographic suicide and destroying the genetic line your ancestors toiled to preserve.

>>138750908
>wife decides

I believe you. Any man(which is currently 90% of them) who thinks in terms of the wife deciding anything is probably doomed to divorce.

It's a beta kind of linguistic thought, the kind Chads and those of the dark tirade never think about. You can objectify a women, but still love her. The same way you love your kids, even if they're dumb drooling objects for the first 6 years.

Until men stop drinking the cool-aid, this cycle won't stop. Those signing up for mgtow, are just deepening the divide between those in the "know", and those who are exploited by women.

>>138745331
Having kids is literally just a waste of 20 years of your life imo.
Anyone who argues "muh heritage / bloodline" is a brainlet, once you're rotting 6' under it'll be of no concern to you that you have or haven't passed on your genes.
You should focus on improving yourself and the quality of life of those around you. Wasting 1/4 of it just so someone can have your surname after you die is retarded.

>>138745331
>Why do you think it's so important to have kids?
Please chop off your balls or get your uterus removed and don't freeze your sperm or eggs

Feels great doesn't it now you'll never have to worry about your body making things you'll never use?

Also don't forget to do it to all your blood related family, wouldn't want them breeding and contaminating the gene pool

While you're at it don't own any property or eat/drink anything either, all those resources should go to people who'll exist in the future

Stop being selfish anon

:^)

>>138745331
For my legacy

>>138745331
This Generation is a selfish gang of scums that has no cultural or traditional values
>what has the world ever done for me??
If you live in the western world and think like this, fucking kill yourself before you influence others, or god forbid, reproduse

Also this
>>138749470

>>138752511
Thanks in advance for removing your defective genes from the pool, you're making the world a better place

>>138752511
>Anyone who argues "muh heritage / bloodline" is a brainlet
>You should focus on improving yourself and the quality of life of those around you

and what if having kids is a way to improve oneself into being a responsible parent and raise the quality of life by making life so they can enjoy a good childhood?

>>138749470
>implying you owe anything to your parents for having
>feeling constant guilt and an obligation to make your life worse
hows it feel being this cucked?

Posts in this thread just restored my faith in 4chan

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>>138745331
>Me and my gf swear off ever having kids
If you're such a vacuous, consumerist degenerate that you can't fathom a higher calling than wallowing in hedonism then by all means, please, PLEASE don't become parents. Ever.

>>138753539
How's it feel being a subhuman without empathy?

>>138754163
how so?

if anything these teenagers fantasizing how awesome being childless in their later adulthood will be just reminds me how delusional some of the posters here are

>>138749470

Just donate some sperm if you care about lineage so much.

Your descendants won't remember you anyways beyond great grandchildren

>>138745331
I don't have kids yet and I'm not enjoying the lifestyle on the far right panel.

>>138745331
It's important not to have kids because the earth is overpopulated.

Because what the fuck are you going to do when you're 50 or 60? Sick and old?
Who the fuck is going to want to take care of your dirty old ass?

>>138752010
If OP is saying he doesn't want to have kids he's obviously a defective member of his demographic anyways. So why the fuck would you want him to reproduce? You should be encouraging him to not have kids so his mentality exits the gene pool.

>>138752511
Thank god people with your mindset don't reproduce.

>>138754899
why, the government of course!

>but nobody has any kids anymore so no tax payers

just print more money haha

>>138754898
Earth's human carrying capacity is estimated at 10 Billion, so no.

>>138750908
Surrogacy is redpilled.

>>138745331
because each one of your ancestors going back billions of years have had a kid.

>>138745331
Having fun all the time is for pussies
With only retards having children
My kids will have a major advantage in the future

Those weaklings who 'choose' not to have kids
You are deleting your inferior genes

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>>138745331
I never want kids but I hate this comic so much. Having a jetski and extra money to travel around will not make your life any better. The person with kid who sleeps 5 hours a night and works 50 hours a week to provide for them probably has more meaning in their lives.

>>138755227
>but nobody has any kids anymore so no tax payers

No they'll import africans

>>138755737
to hasten economic collapse from too many gibs and not enough gibbers?

agreed

>>138745331

if you're not a complete retard you could live like in the right panel and have kids
kids and wealth are not mutually exclusive and people who tell you that either made shitty life choices or are financially retarded

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>>138754898
>Falling for the overpopulation meme
If you really believe this you need serious help

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>>138756371
LITERALLY THIS. I have no idea why people think those two things are mutually exclusive. If you're not dumb enough to live in an overpriced liberal hellhole and have even moderate skills/work ethic a man can still support a wife and kids and provide plenty.

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As a human being you have one single obligation from birth, and that is to reproduce.

If you don't want kids, fine. That is your right to decide. However, it makes you a worthless human being and you need to own up to that.

>>138756933

>obligation

Funny way of looking at life

>>138757126
If you don't have kids, you have quite literally wasted your life.

>>138757226
ok. im enjoying the shit out of my wasted life though.

>>138757458
Power to you. See you in 30 years when you realize everything you have ever done is completely meaningless.

>>138754163
If these fuckers think I'm going to just say "Oh, no hard feelings guys" after being literally libelled they have another thing coming.

>>138757603
im old as shit come at me bro

>>138756933
Not everyone should have kids. This is not even a "all niggers should be sterilized" argument. There are people that have had really messed up childhoods and having them raise kids would imprint that shit on the next generation.

>>138757603

Does continued existence alone give life meaning?

>>138757458
It will only become apparent once your own parents died and the rest of your family will not give you the time of the day.

>>138757834
not only have my parents been long since dead. my siblings are dead too.

>>138756933
This.

>>138745331
>Hedonism is the purpose of life
Cute.

>not wanting a small self sufficient family with enough kids to help you and the wife take care of the home and the land you've managed to accrue over the years

ew

I think earth is too terrible of an environment to want to raise kids in.

>>138757126
>Funny way of looking at life
How? For any individual organism success or failure is determined only by whether or not that individual reproduces. So from an evolutionary standpoint your one and only obligation is to successfully reproduce. From an evolutionary standpoint this isn't funny at all, it's the standard way of looking at life.

>>138757773
this

>>138757773
Obviously kids aren't for everyone. Certain genes shouldn't be passed and some people are so unfit to be parents that they should never have kids. You shouldnt produce a child if you know they will be miserable because of qualities you can't control. If you desperately want children and can't have one for a valid reason, then I pitty you and honestly hope you find other meaning in your life. But if you don't want children, and think you can use an ailment as some sort of moral excuse to not have any, you are just as bad as the people who never would have had one in the first place.

>>138745331
You're going to be 70 some day and there needs to be a generation of younger people to grow food and transport it to you. Unless you put a bullet through your head at 70, children are optimal.

>>138757819
It gives your personal life meaning to know that you have created a child that can now find their own meaning in life.

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>>138745452

fpbp. It is according to nature the reason to live

>>138758033
Nobody is obligated to have children out of pure reason. Having children is the natural step from living in a human reality as opposed to an objective one.

>>138757948
And you turn to an image board with an audience that is likely to 80% under 30 (so the age of your hypothetical children) to propagate your belief. Shows how great your life choices must have been!

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>>138750908

The solution is simple.

Kill her, her lawyer, the judge and anyone else with a significant hand in it.

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>really want to have kids
>but my wife isn't white

What do I do now?

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>>138756933
That's a retarded way of looking at human value; but fine, I'm worthless.
Really doesn't impact me in any meaningful way.

>>138758338

So my children can find their own meaning but I can't? Or are you saying they're trash if "their own meaning" doesn't end up being exactly the same as mine, because that's the "correct" way to live?

>>138757458
>wants instant gratification only
>not a nigger
Pick 1

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>>138745331
>Why do you think it's so important to have kids?

Wait until you are 85 and alone... everyone is dead that you knew, your friend spends all his free time playing with his Grand kids, you jerk off to Tranny porn.

>>138757773
>>138758124
>>138758218
Trump still won, that "old bag from the Jurassic period" comment hit a little too close to home, keep crying.

>>138758491
My point was that isn't a funny way of looking at life, from an evolutionary standpoint. And through a strictly evolutionary lens that is quite literally your one and only obligation.

Now, from a societal standpoint you're right, you're not obligated to have children. You're obligated to contribute to your society, in some fashion or another.

And I'd argue that anyone that does not want to have children is in fact obligated not to, so their mindset doesn't reproduce. As this guy said, >>138745452

>>138758804
Not from a reproductive standpoint it isn't

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>most of the western people don't want to have kids
>their population decrease dramatically
>meanwhile Jamal is having 10 kids with each of his 4 wives and start moving to Europe
way to go lads

>>138745331
This whole "saving money and spending it on yourself" mentality of millenials is simply wrong and selfish, because good feeling should come from things you've achieved and are good for the society. That includes having a family. It's also why too much sex/masturbation and drugs are bad, because it's fake, and you lose interest in real and productive things when you replace it with fakes

>>138758988
Disregard the word "meaning". They are able to find their own joy and happiness in the world because you fulfilled your duty and conceived, like they should eventually do too

>>138759437
Yep

>>138745452
Fpbp also you can have kids AND a jetski.

>>138758712
Kys

>>138750908
My father and both stepdads each had at least one divorce. I refuse to be a stepdad if that's my only option (Already turned down one fat hog.
>>138755373
Then you just get a kid that hates you for not having a mother.

Having a job doesn't help. Fat inheritance doesn't help. I'm no chad but girls would just rather date Jamal or a recovering drug addict than me so will likely be forever alone.

>>138759656
Yeah, being a stepdad is some bullshit. There's literally no way you can win, your stepchildren are gonna hate you no matter what.

>>138754899
>Because what the fuck are you going to do when you're 50 or 60? Sick and old?
Go to Pattaya and fuck ladyboys 24h/day
Also 50/60 isn't that old if you know how to care about yourself

>>138758712
Where is she from?

Why are you so defensive about kids ?
If somebody doesn't want them, it's his choice. We have no duty to human race or to anyone.
I personally can't imagine having kids and I am 38.Much prefer to spend money on computer games and sex tourism in Asia.
I have a lot of friends with children and wives and they are miserable.

>>138745331

Good job, goy, you have indoctrinated yourself into the "kids are evil little monsters" meme well.

Truly you are doing your people and yourself a favour for pursuing egotistical and goals of instant gratification without effort.

Good fucking job, your parents must be proud.

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>>138746127
Studies show if you have a daughter, they are very likely to take care of you.

So one daughter to take care of you. One son to carry on the lineage.

>>138759035
I'm just advising people to accept their own nature, or otherwise become miserable. Nobody is obligated to contribute to anything, but if someone prioritize themselves before the tribe, it is natural for us to kill them and take their possessions.

>>138758595
I tell my wife this every few months to remind her I'm the most violent person she has ever met

I'm not lying
I live my life for my Breivik moment where I'll kill a lot of people if my life gets fucked up by other people's selfish behaviour

>>138760242
>Good job, goy, you have indoctrinated yourself into the "kids are evil little monsters" meme well.

Kids and women ARE monsters though.
Women are basically psychopats void of any emotion besides desire to constantly torture you so have to prove yourself as a man, and kids screeching parasites that take your money and life force.

>>138760052
Romania.

I have three three brothers, they are very much the take care of you type.

>>138745331
For billions of years, the fundamental rule of evolution and life is to succeed and pass on your genes to the next generation. The entire point of life is to survive long enough to procreate. We here at /pol/ look beyond our own pleasure, selfishness, and short lives, and actually think about the direction the world is heading, so we desire children to carry our wisdom and values on into the future to create a better world than the one we came from.

If you are white, you have a duty to your race to have kids. We are not the smartest, but we are the most balanced in many creative traits. Humanity is pretty shit, and White people are the least shit. In order for their to be peace on Earth we need white people around. They don't need to be the only people, but they need power and influence because our morality, (which is becoming our curse) is uniquely above most other races.

>>138745331
Good goy. Keep going.

>>138759467

That's well and good, but nobody has the power to decide what gives them joy and happiness. That's like telling someone to be spontaneous on cue. When you use words like obligation and duty, to me you suck the joy of life right out of the whole experience. If you want to convince someone that having children is desirable, you can't tell them it's because they HAVE to, or else. You can't be told to enjoy something, and acting out of guilt certainly isn't a good way to live

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>>138745331

>>138760509
>For billions of years, the fundamental rule of evolution and life is to succeed and pass on your genes to the next generation.
This is just mindless reproduction, you don't have to be chained by DNA's desire to replicate itself, as you have your mind and reason.
>If you are white, you have a duty to your race to have kids.
Says who ?
I have no duty besides the one I invent for myself.

>>138745331
>Hey I'm MGTOW, check out my new dirtbike
>Lmao virgin nerd enjoy your childish toy

>Hey I'm Childfree, check out my new Jetski
>You go guys, fuck kids!

The only difference between these two situations is that in second situation, a woman is also enjoying her (husband's) saved money. Reaction is then radically different.

Interesting...

>>138760052
She is vietnamese, my high school crush

Don't want no hapa schoolshooters

>>138760707
tell her to stop being a little bitch nigga, and spit out some kids.

>>138760326
I think I get what you mean, but when you say people should accept their own nature what nature are you referring to?

I disagree that we don't have obligations to contribute, however. And that's because my entire concept of right and wrong is built around whether or not you're contributing to your group.

>>138746127
>Chance of ending up in a nursing home when you have no family
100% unless you DIE.
>Chance of ending up in a nursing home when you have a family
<100%

It's a no brainer, really.

>>138760622
I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. Like I said before, you have the right to not have kids, but doing so goes against your purpose as a human

>>138760879
you can contribute in other ways, kids is just the most acceptable.

>>138760707
well you can always take your chances hope they breed away from chink genes to eventually dilute it away

>>138760662
This is a good add on to what I've been saying about reproduction.

I'm not saying you HAVE to reproduce. I'm just saying you're either a success or failure from a reproductive standpoint depending on whether or not you do reproduce. And not everyone has to be a success in that regard, as long as you contribute SOMETHING to society and the human race.

>>138745331

>why go through the ups and downs of raising a family when i can spend my money on more hedonistic and pointless materialist garbage?

Kek. This is the reason the West is dying. The Romans probably thought the same way.

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It's always leftist atheists who decide to not have children.

>God created us to be fruitful and multiply
>Ummm God didn't create us
>What's the point in life then?
>Ummm to survive and reproduce

Genetic dead-ends folks.

>>138760687
>
The only difference between these two situations is that in second situation, a woman is also enjoying her (husband's) saved money. Reaction is then radically different.
It's because we live in Matriarchy. A man is expected to be a slave to the female.

>>138745331

Agreed.
The meaning of life is having fun while it lasts.
Besides, the problem is them breeding too much, not us not breeding enough.

I want to see my country white in my lifetime, I don't care what happens after I die.

>>138761012
No I agree. I was just saying it isn't stupid to say you have an obligation to have children, from a STRICTLY biological point of view you do. Now, from a societal standpoint you're either a success or failure based on whether or not you contribute some kind of value.

>>138745331
>Me and my gf swear off ever having kids

Good, please don't; based on your post, I don't want you to carry on your lineage.

>>138760662
>you don't have to be chained by DNA's desire to replicate itself, as you have your mind and reason.
The only reason you have a powerful mind is because it helped you survive and replicate. If you have a strong mind, it is your duty to replicate and create stronger minds in the future. Ego constructs that purposefully choose to refrain from reproduction for selfish reasons are completely defective, and it's probably better you don't have kids.

Keep in mind, while you are not reproducing. Billions of stupid people all over the globe are having huge numbers of children because they, while dumb, are not dumb enough to abandon their biological imperative. If youre honestly a strong, healthy, and smart human, it is your duty to pass that on to the future.

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>>138745331
Those who have no kids are forgotten in time... they are meaningless to the future, they failed potentials... they are dust in the wind
These deserve the extreme loneliness that accompanies them on their last days

>>138761986
>. If you have a strong mind, it is your duty to replicate and create stronger minds in the future.
Says who again ? You are inventing things that chain you. I have no duty to anyone, no obligation to anyone. I have only duties and obligations I create for myself.
You preach as much as you want, but deep inside everyone knows that having children and a wife is a nightmare to 95% of males.
I do not wish to be a tortured slave and never will.

>>138745331
>Life is short
That's the thing, it isn't. By the time you're 30 you probably did everything you could think of that's within your grasp. If you're healthy, you still have half a century to fuck around. What's your grand plan for half a century?

The only reason not to have a child is if you're Tesla.

>>138762146
>Those who have no kids are forgotten in time... they are meaningless to the future, they failed potentials... they are dust in the wind
As we all are eventually, so it makes no difference.

>>138760622
This guy gets it

Children are cute and you get to semi relive your youth through them. The good and the bad. And if you're a good parent you'll have a bond that will last your whole lives. It's also nice to know someone will mourn you when your gone. Instead of dying old and alone.

>>138762471
>As we all are eventually, so it makes no difference.

Remember that as you lay in bed, alone and forgotten
While others rest in home filled with life and laughter

>>138760972
>>138746127
>Chance of ending up in a nursing home when you have no family
100% unless you DIE.
>Chance of ending up in a nursing home when you have a family
<100%
>t's a no brainer, really.


It's actually easy.

80 years of care free life and fun and then 5 years of nursery

OR

Ending your life in 20s and working hard 50 years for 5 years of waiting to die while your grandkids visit to take your money every second weekend.

WOW what a blast.

>>138762471
No, when I die I will do so. knowing I passed on my genes and will continue on through them and what I've taught my children. The reason to live is to reproduce if you don't it was like you were never here

>>138761522

What is a "strictly biological point of view"? Whose perspective is that? You can't assume nature's point of view and argue with human concepts like success, obligation and contribution like it means something outside of the context of human thought. You make the distinction between standpoints, but you argue the same way from both of them

>>138762342
What you're really saying is. "I am weak and afraid of facing challenges in life. I am selfish and wish to take the easy road and enjoy hedonistic pleasures during my short life instead of living at my edge."

If that's actually your position. Don't procreate. The humanity of the future does not need your genes.

>>138762771
>Ending your life in 20s and working hard 50 years
Yes anon raising a kid takes 50 years. What a great point

>>138745331
Because my ancestors didn't fight to survive just so I could say "nahhh raising kids is too hard I'll just get a dog!"

>>138762672
>Remember that as you lay in bed, alone and forgotten
While others rest in home filled with life and laughter
Or in pain and misery.
In any case everyone dies alone in case you didn't realize that.

>>138762816
> The reason to live is to reproduce if you don't it was like you were never here
There is no reason. You are just making it up to give your life a meaning.
And we all die and perish so it doesn't matter if you have kids or not.

>>138760879
"Biological reasons" is just a stupid attempt to apply logic to something that is not logical. We don't live as hunter gatherers anymore.

>what nature are you referring to?
What makes you think that people are obligated to contribute if not your intuition of what is right to do? Sometimes we do what feels like the right thing even when it does not maximize our personal outcome.

Our sense of justice is emotionally driven. That is why I am giving people advice while you are making demands.

>>138762771
>Be educated adult in his 25
>Seen the world, found himself, making his way through successful career/enjoying spoils of his first business
>Father children, like 2-3
>Raise them proper, brainwash them with family values and teach them how to achieve your success. Still enjoy your hobbies and hang out with friends, even better introduce the kids to your hobbies/friends so the kids have connections for their future life.
>23 years later, you're 47, they're employed, you have 33 years to do whatever the fuck you want as you enjoy your retirement fund+pay outs from your kids.

It's not hard and there's nothing else to do in those 23 years anyway.

Slave away at work?
Fuck around like a degenerate?
Huff paint?

>>138762832
>What you're really saying is. "I am weak and afraid of facing challenges in life. I am selfish and wish to take the easy road and enjoy hedonistic pleasures during my short life instead of living at my edge."

Why should I have hard and annoying life, when I can have life that is easier, more fun and more enjoyable.

If you want to have a wife(good luck with being a slave) go ahead. If you want to have kids(good luck with no sleep, picking up shit and having no money) good luck to you too.
I will be out there laughing.

>>138763360
Stupid idiot
The DNA strand that makes you has been a continuous being for billions of years but you'll let it die because it's hard?
Please do us a favor and stop using oxygen now

>ITT all these retards trying to convince child-freefags to have kids

just let them not breed so they don't pollute the gene pool holy shit

>>138753539
Not as cucked as willingly ending your lineage and letting other faggots take over the world your ancestors built

>>138745331
Tell that to the niggers rabbi

>>138763514
>Being employed at 23
>wasting 25 years of your life on kids because society told you so
>having a business
>thinking it will be successful and not a failure like 90% of others

Goyus Maximus

>>138745331
You were a kid. You needed loving parents to be a good person. A denial of children is just a denial of yourself.

>>138763662
> Anonymous (ID: q3UFvfyo) 08/23/17(Wed)20:34:37 No.138763662 ▶

>>138763360 (You)
Stupid idiot
The DNA strand that makes you has been a continuous being for billions of years but you'll let it die because it's hard?
Yes, why not, why should I care about DNA?

>Please do us a favor and stop using oxygen now
No, sorry, I intend to use it to fuck some hookers on blow.

>>138763770
>A denial of children is just a denial of yourself.
I am and I will continue to be the ONLY child in my life.
I have seen how children are, they are noisy, annoying, ask stupid questions, are dirty, messy, shit.

You have to be blinded by instinct to want them.

>>138745452
Fpbp. If jet skis will bring sustained joy and love into your life then please don't bother having children. But for me, avarice passion for things will not bring me peace of mind and happiness. If you can't imagine bringing a life into this world to love and care for, then I feel sorry for you and your mother.

>>138762868
>Yes anon raising a kid takes 50 years. What a great point
Sometimes even more. If you think raising children stops when they are 20, you have no idea about life.
I am 38 and I still take money from my parents.

>>138763767
>Being autistic
>Not realizing that happiness is an emotional state

>>138745331
If you don't want children you are a genetic dead-end and failure of the species. All of those millions of years of evolution to produce you for naught because you deliberately chose not to pass on your healthy genes. Just so you can buy the latest iPhone that's almost exactly the same as the one you have. Sad shit.

>>138763514
Surely that ideal scenario is easily achievable by everyone.

And who says you have to end up in a nursing home? Its just as easy, if not easier to waste away and die on your own before being put into a facility where your death will only be more miserable. And have you ever visited family in a nursing home? Its always maybe the immediate child dragging a few kids and cousins that obviously don't want to be there, they sit there for their 15-30 minutes, and are gone for who knows how long until they come back. Id rather just fall over and break my hip alone at home and die of the shock.

>>138746127
>gamble that your kids will love

Unless you're a monster twat, your children will love you.

>>138764076
I might be autistic, but its not me that is picking up shit during sleepless nights where the little parasites(aka kids) screech

>>138764228
It doesn't matter. Happiness does not derive from logic. You can't maximize happiness the way you maximize profit.

>>138763767
Ah, so you're depressed and disillusioned, having no hope neither in family nor capitalism or your skills.

You don't believe in creating your own future and would rather spend your money and time on frivolities like video games or another distraction of a hobby that in the end teaches you nothing, while working a mediocre job.

There's no point arguing with you, as you reject any worldview that doesn't involve complete and utter defeat of yourself. You don't or refuse to believe that people can succeed where you failed.

>>138745331
4chan users generally don't go out and have a good time with their friends/females. Raising children is a great activity for us.

>>138763958
Point is, you were like that too. If you apply what you say retroactively, what if your parents had decided the same thing? Your adamant and repetitive posting makes me think you're simply immature and not basing anything your saying on reason.

>>138764064
that is because you are a colossal fuckup

>>138764107
>Just so you can buy the latest iPhone that's almost exactly the same as the one you have. Sad shit.
I actually don't care for Iphones, I prefer good old sex tourism in South East Asia.
Can't really see how having family, wife and kids could be somehow enjoyable compared to having cold Singha, four hands massage, and cosmic blowjob from a 9/10 ladyboy.
And there are plenty of guys in their 70s doing it, I have seen it. Me? I am starting young, I am just 38. So I can do this easily for next 30-40 years.If Thailand or Cambodia bore me, I will go to Chile, Brazil. If they bore me, I will go to Romania. If Romania bores me, I will go to Spain.

But if you want to waste your life, go ahead. Have kids and pick up their shit.Go ahead slave.

>>138754829
It's more than a genetic lineage. It's a personal, cultural, religious and national lineage that goes beyond a line of genetic data. If you can't understand the drive, you never will understand why people push for you to do it so much. We know you will regret it.

>>138763127
>In any case everyone dies alone
True... some die alone in a old folks home... no one comes to the funeral, others die surrounded by family and friends... mourned but remembered with laughter and joy

>>138764309
I know people who satisfy the definition of success as defined by society and they are miserable.
I assure you that I am quite far from depression when playing games, reading SF books or being sucked by 9/10 qt in Asia.

>>138763586
>I will be out there laughing.
And one day you'll be dead. And my children will be in the world creating greatness. Your laughter and fleeting pleasure is worthless against the God of time.

>>138745331
>that comic
Its literally paid eugenics
>goyim don't procreate and you'll be made rich!

>>138763958
they arent like that forever though

>>138764568
>. We know you will regret it.
Sounds like something a member of brainwashed cult would say.
But I case it takes a lot of brainwashing to accept being a shit picking slave that gives away his money to others.

>>138764681
>And one day you'll be dead. And my children will be in the world creating greatness. Your laughter and fleeting pleasure is worthless against the God of time.

In the end everyone is dead, so it doesn't matter really.

>>138764064
>I am 38 and I still take money from my parents.
I am 52 and I give money to my parents, not that they need any, but it is nice to take them out to dinner and buy them iphones, ipads, etc.

>>138756933
Fuck you good looking guys who don't understand or refuse to acknowledge what it's like to be ugly.

>>138764687
>goyim don't procreate and you'll be made rich!
It's true though.
Having family and kids means practically no money if you aren't super-rich.

>>138764552
And then you die alone with nothing but a rotting STD-ridden dick. Wonderful life you lived.

>>138764680
The reason you're not having kids and don't want to is because you're very immature which is obvious from your posts, not because you've found out any kind of meaning to life. You're a 38 year old behaving like a 25 year old. Its a good thing you don't have kids.

>>138745331
why does a man need a wife to spend his own money?

>>138764064

Christ, do your parents a favour and kill yourself anon.

>>138745452
kek
but i agree with op, fuck children

>>138745456
Leaf shut the fuck up people have been saying that forever god damn you Canadians are dumb

>>138765112
Get in shape and lower your standards.

>>138765198
>And then you die alone with nothing but a rotting STD-ridden dick. Wonderful life you lived.
Much better than being a slave all your life.
In the end we all die alone, so it's not like it matters. At least I fucked qt hookers instead of looking at shit stained diapers

>>138765431
>just go for people with visible deformities

No thanks.

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>>138745331

(((OP)))

>>138750350

i have a republican coworker who cries every week or so because her son completely cut her out of his life for being a 'nazi supporter'.

you'll surprised how many supporters of the left will cut out anyone from their life who just because they have different view points.

>>138765158
są w życiu ważniejsze rzeczy niż dziwki i forsa
spróbuj z banknotem usiąść i spalić lolka

>>138765452
I want you to remember this thread when you're older. I have a feeling you'll regret your words today when the 9,000th ladyboy blowjob ceases to give you fulfillment in life. Study buddhism. Mortal pleasures will never fulfill you.

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>>138765112
>acknowledge what it's like to be ugly.
If you are a guy WTF are you talking about... women will fuck ANYTHING if it gives them attention and makes them feel good about themselves.

>>138765431
I'm in decent shape, was military.
Haven't had sex in six years or so and I right swipe on Tinder everyone including huge women and I have maybe two matches.
Some people are just not good looking and it's not quite fair to shame them for being unable to have a date much less kids.

>>138765452
Your ancestors are smiling at you from heaven, truly all their hard work has paid off

>>138765537
Your loss. You are capable of falling in love with almost anyone, and the same goes for everyone else in relation to you.

>>138765626
daj sobie spokoj, madrosci polskiej ulicy xD
Nie moge sie doczekac triggerowania kiedy wroce do Polski i powiem w pracy ze nie mam dzieci xD

>>138765452
How is it slavery to raise a child, makes no sense. You have a strange view of the world.
You change diapers for 2 years and then you have a lifelong friend who shares your blood and continues your legacy. I already like children and spend a lot of time watching over my nieces and nephews. Children are a joy once they get out of the baby stage.

I did the fun stuff, the luxury stuff, it's OK but nothing special. I never did jet skiing but I was in a motorboat, whatever.

So why not have kids, it's an experience with a payoff.

>>138745331
>
having kids and spreading knowledge is the meaning of life

I think the simplest and strongest argument for having children is that there are millions of childless adults of 40+ y.o. who regret not having kids while barely any people with kids who regret having them.

I really don't get the no kids meme. I want to have as many kids as possible, like 10+, once I find a suitable wife and I've saved up enough money to build a home out in the country somewhere where we can hunt and grow our own food and not be bothered for the most part by the government. Could have a well for water, solar panels for electricity, satellite internet. Would still continue to work cause things are a lot easier with some money than trying to go full amish mode, but a lot of that money could be saved when you're not paying for food and and a mortgage and other bullshit people waste their money on. Wife could homeschool the kids when they're younger and let them go to public school once they're a bit older and want to get out into the world, and at that point are redpilled enough to see past all the propaganda. My kids will be smart as fuck both in the book sense and as survivalists, much more likely to survive a civil war or ww3 scenario if it comes to that. And I could die fulfilled knowing my genetic line is secured and that I brought numerous intelligent and capable people into this world.

>>138765758
>You are capable of falling in love with almost anyone
I wish this were true tbqh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUDRU9-HRk

>>138765727
Why doesn't he wear the mask?

>>138765645
>>138765645
>I want you to remember this thread when you're older. I have a feeling you'll regret your words today when the 9,000th ladyboy blowjob ceases to give you fulfillment in life. Study buddhism. Mortal pleasures will never fulfill you.

I don't know, I know plenty of dudes in their 70s and 80s still fucking ladyboys and being happy about it.
The trick is to take testosterone and stockpile kamagra before your fuck frenzy sex trip. I know 70 year olds that fuck like teenagers

>>138765690
He's rich. I'm not. I only have maybe 120k in the bank.
If I had something like money at least I could do that but I'm not well off.

>>138765758
I've tried to go for 3 outta 10s.
Sorry man, can't do much for the white race looking like shit.
Unlucky in the looks department.
Told I look like a dad by people so I'm too old now.

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If you have strong genes, kids are basically mini-clones of you.

Why wouldn't you want to clone yourself?

I wonder if we can encourage this for Blacks and Arabs and incentivise it for Whites.

Can we Jew ourselves out of this rut?

>>138765846
You're not a parent yet. Parenthood is not equal to friendship. They need to separate and the process often isn't smooth.

But there always is that bond that is not like anything else.

>>138765868
>So why not have kids, it's an experience with a payoff.
You are stuck with them forever. There is no turning back and basically all your financial assets are ruined. Your life is now chained to some other person.

>>138765846
>then you have a lifelong friend
As a father myself I have seen the mistakes others have made ... do NOT become a friend to your kids!. There are 7 BILLION other people they can have as fiends, be there MOM or DAD.

>>138766020
>So why not have kids, it's an experience with a payoff.
Because it isn't a perfect clone and it doesn't have your mind.

>>138766020
Because its not your kid. It's the mother's kid and the State's kid. If the mother doesn't want to be with you, then she can make your life a living hell with help from the State. Most judges reward full custody to the woman 90-93% of the time. What's the point of having a kid if you can only see him/her every other weekend? Fuck this world.

>>138766183
>do NOT become a friend to your kids!

That is perhaps too ambiguous a caution to be useful.

>>138766011
>I only have maybe 120k in the bank.
In some areas of the world you ARE rich.
Time to visit the trailer parks of the 1st world and the rural villages of the third world.

>>138766011
Ugly girls can be harder to get than cute ones. The ugly ones have all sorts of personality issues typically that make them unable to commit, or they're more stuck up.

8/10 or above, or girls that at least have some desirable feature, feel better about themselves and are ready to fall in love. And they already have the "looks" thing covered, so they don't need you to supply it.

That's what I found anyway. Manlet, never had problem getting girlfriends when I wanted, nor married when I wanted that.

>>138745331
What is it with these people who think they'll always produce the shittiest kids imaginable? Perhaps it's good that you two won't have kids. Neither of you would raise them right. As a matter of fact, you should be barred from adopting. No kid is going to benefit from people like you.

>>138766336
I'm not a burger. Womyn are not a privileged class here.

>>138766231
My older is a lot like my mother. My younger is uncannily like my father. It's sort of weird raising not myself, but my parents!

It's literally the purpose of life.

>>138745331

Why are you in an LTR if you don't want kids? Why waste your time on relationship bullshit then? Just as well be fuck buddies instead.

>>138754898
Only Africa's population is increasing and overpopulated.

>1 post by this user

>>138766401
I'm sure you look good.
I'm just 5 10.

>>138766370
>too ambiguous a caution to be useful.

They need someone who says NO! Someone who says this is WRONG do not do it.
Someone who says "I am proud of you", someone they can turn to who will give them real honest advise that is only to help them. Friendship end.. your relationship with your parents is forever and should be one of mutual respect and love. I got my first Master's degree because my Dad recommended Aerospace Engineering. Never worked a day as an engineer, but never regretted the education.

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>>138745331
Childless couples are far more likely to end in divorce. So it makes sense the woman has the bag of money on her jet ski and the man has nothing. Enjoy getting cucked beta fag.

>>138745331
Because I'm white, having white kids is my privilege and I'll be checking my privilege when I have my 4th kid.

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>>138766585

>the purpose of life is to have kids whose purpose in life it is to have kids whose purpose in life it is to have kids whose purpose in life it is to have kids whose purpose in life it is to have kids

>>138766826
I'm 5'6". Less now because one gets a litte shorter with age.

No facial deformities, I look intelligent I suppose. I have been compared to a movie star --- but that star is Woody Allen! I don't think it's a close match though.

>>138758431
my new fav image

>>138766836
This. It's not a relationship of equals, and yes in a certain way kids idolize their parents if things are going right. So your words can matter a lot -- for good or bad.

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>>138745331
Shoo joo

>>138765890
There's a 50 year old childless single woman at my work with a picture of her 3 cats on her desk.

Sad!

>>138758431
Source on image?

>>138746644
Only if you live in a shit country
>flag
Oh wait, you do.

>>138745331
>Don't bother having any kids goy. Just focus on vain, self-centered pursuits and goals!
>In the meantime your country will become even more diverse and tolerant than ever before. After all, without diversity America will not survive!

>>138767063
What, you have a problem with recursion?

>>138766585

That view eliminates life itself and only acknowledges the way in which life perpetuates. The doing (procreation) only exists so that being can continue. Being is the point. Why reduce your existence to a method whose only purpose is to execute itself infinitely? It's an absurd way of regarding life

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Nobody needs a reason to preserve their people.

>>138745331
>Be me
>Mixed person that doesn't nig nog
>Most people in my race have the lowest IQ
>I want to make it better for the next generation
>Joining the Military in November
>Already planning out my life after the career.
>Reading all the books of philosophy that i can to reinforce my IQ
>All of that to have kids.

Its a sacrifice that im willing to pay just for the own good of the next generation to come, people like me exist by little but we will maybe suffice and stand victorious after we see our families flourish with knowledge and bravery.

>>138764064
That's cause you're a huge piece of shit

>>138745452
/thread, thanks Philippines

>>138757693
>old as shit
>age 30
>looks 45 because fat

>>138764064
Kek what a fucking failure.

>>138762828
lol, What I'm saying is, in nature, reproduction is success, not reproducing is failure, period. And yes, I can assume that because that's how natural selection fucking works. If an organism doesn't pass on it's genes, it failed. It's alright if a few individuals in a species fail, and in fact, the individuals that lack the necessary traits to reproduce will fail. That's fine, the failures have been removed from the gene pool and whatever traits made them insufficiently fit have died with them, that doesn't change the fact that those individuals are failures. If too many individuals in a species fail to reproduce the species will go extinct, and the entire species fails. Again, not a big deal, there's other forms of life out there, but that doesn't change the fact that the species that died off failed.

So yeah, congratulations to nature, success, obligation, contribution don't matter outside of a human point of because nature simply is. SO FUCKING WHAT if it doesn't matter outside of a human point of view? That's not relevant. We're both humans and we're talking from a human point of view and not outside of it, so why would we give a fuck about what things mean outside of it?

SO now, to my point of view. The reason I argue the way from both points of view is simple. I WANT THE HUMAN RACE TO NOT FUCKING FAIL. And I should feel that way as a member of the human race. Anyone who doesn't want humanity to fail, or their own genes to fail to pass on is by definition a failure, because they won't reproduce. And it's okay that they are failures, I want them to fail. I don't want mindsets that would lead to humanity's extinction to reproduce. I just want them to at least contribute something of value to humanity.

>>138756933
I have a high risk of alzhimers, i have really shitty teeth formation and eyes and two people on my mothers side had dementia.

Even if you ignored all of that I wont pay off my student loans for another 10 years, I cannot afford to raise a child properly and it would be irresponsible of me to bring one up without the proper financial support.

>>138766020
notice who the kids are getting darker.
dont you hate it when evolution goes backward.

>>138769938
>>138758218

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>>138769938
Don't worry... you will be forgotten..
you are grave stuffings.

>>138769938
my mom is inbred and way dumb then dad. she a high school drop out.
I have perfect teeth formation and genes inherited from grandad who died with his full mouth (rare).
the future lopks bright as my yellow smile :^)

buddy its fun to have a grandad with alzhaimer go for it, be it.

>>138770520
my father had alzhiemers not my grandfather, he dead already.

>>138763499
A stupid attempt to apply logic to something that isn't logical?

Wow, okay, so nature isn't logical, so what? We observe what is accurate and nature, and we apply our own logic to find a logical argument for reproduction.

Any individual has one purpose for existing in nature, to reproduce. Therefore, if we're looking at life strictly through a natural lens, then we can extrapolate that to mean that any individual human has one reason to exist. To reproduce.

I'm not saying that's the only lens we can or should look through, I'm just saying when you look at it from that angle it IS an obligation. And so what if I'm using human logic to figure that out? I'm a human being, why wouldn't I use that tool to look at it?

>We don't live as hunter gatherers anymore
So what? That doesn't change how reproduction works or why individuals in a species do it.

So, to your point about people and their obligations, here's where I stand on it. If an individual in a species does not have the urge to reproduce, then so be it. But it is a failure, it being a failure doesn't make it worthless. And as I've said, it's perfectly fine that the individual fails. It SHOULD, because if it doesn't have the urge to reproduce and it (somehow) passed that trait on, then more individuals would lose that urge, and if it spread through enough of the species the inevitable outcome would be extinction.

>>138770643
neat

Genetics mean nothing, even the most dominant genes will be diluted and replaced within a few generations if they are not suited to that environment.

ideas are eternal, not even their creators can end them.

>>138745331
I want my genes to continue. My ancestors managed to get them to the year 2017 until now. I want to do the same.

Also family is just very important to me. Family is the only thing on which you can ALWAYS fall back on, no matter what happens in your life.

i have kids..

you want to wait til you've experienced every fucking thing in the world you've wanted to experience, especially that fuck you money.. once you're as jaded as could possibly be, have kids - then life 2.0 begins,

It's really really really fucking awesome, just don't expect you'll have ANY time for life 1.0 again.

Just think of it as us doing our part to help your offspring suffer for your ridicule when the shitskins outbreed us.

To see your child making the good choices in life and eventually ending with a happy family and a free but reasonable mind not some hair dyed antifa fag

>>138769634

>SO FUCKING WHAT if it doesn't matter outside of a human point of view?

I'm saying that you're trying to apply human concepts to another realm of existence in order to assert some fundamental "obligatory purpose" that applies in both realms. Animal species (collectively or individually) that "fail" do so out of inability, not choice. You can't use a "purely biological point of view" to argue that animals have an obligation to do anything, because the concept of an obligation doesn't exist in their world. That's a human perspective. There's no such thing as a "purely biological point of view", and if there is it's not one you're capable of assuming

My child brought meaning and purpose to my life and focused me like a laser

>>138745331
>self selecting yourself out of 4.2 billion years of evolution

Fucking retard. You literally fail at life. The meaning of life is basically survive long enough to reproduce and give your offspring the best opportunity to reproduce.

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>>138745331

Because we're trying to avert the pic related future.