The injection of Nazi LARPing and Hitler edginess into the alt-right

>>138632078
Shill....

https://dstormer6em3i4km.onion.cab

>>138632078
Our enemy is |||china|||

>>138632078
Nazi symbolism is inevitable in far right movements because it has become understood as the antithesis to liberal, left wing positions and causes them the most offense. So in a sense you're right that the left is the reason nazi imagery is so appealing to the right but it's not intentional subversion.

If you don't understand this or at least consider the idea and instead double down on your conspiracy then you are a confirmed concern shill.

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>>138632078
This.
>it's stupid, Polish people hate them,
THIS.
>>138632375
Fuck you.
>>138634739
>left wing positions
Socialism is left wing.

>>138632078
Why are we basing anything on whether the Poles or Brits like it or not?
Yes, swastikas and salutes should be left at home. Only an idiot or plant brings such things to right wing rallies. But the ideology is sound, and can be molded to fight the current day environment.

>>138635310
>>left wing positions
>Socialism is left wing.
You can't read.

See
>it has become understood as

I didn't say it wasn't you overzealous libtard.

The funny thing is the left is so bad that America is accepting nazism. Antifa is normalizing nazis.

>>138632078
there's always going to be people pushing the limits and using nazi flags, just like there's going to be people on the left using communist flags.

nobody expects left-wingers to reject communism. why? because they control the narrative in this country. we need to take back the narrative, and cucking won't get us there.

not to mention it's totally impossible to stop people from using nazi iconography. it's just going to happen, we need to just shrug our shoulders and move on

>>138632078
>tl;dr BECOME A EXTREMIST CENTRIST DRESS UP AS ANTIFA AND VVAVE AROUND NAZI FLAGS GO TAKE BASEBALL BATS TO RALLIES AND BEAT BOTH SIDES UP

>>138635544
You are missing the point. It is too divisive and rooted in another country's history. A more successful and calculated move would be to create a fresh, pro-American, pro white (not anti-xyz, more Jared Taylor type), economically and prosperity oriented movement.

>>138632078
Yes, right wing need to do something like Khrushchev did cutting off communism from Stalin, calling him a war criminal and that he twisted ideology to gain power and that he did a lot mistakes and they can fix them

Making Hitler and Reich seem like ideal and hiding mistakes only makes nationalists look like crazy to normies. Without saying what they can do better than Hitler and what mistakes he did, they won't achieve anything

>>138632078
Problem is: if leftist media controls the news, you can go dressed like a carebear with heart flags, they'll say you're a Nazi and the heart is a hate symbol.

Best way to fight subversion is to fully accept the subversion tactics as your own, and embracing it to a level beyond that which the shills were ready to shill their tactic at.

Still subverts alt right into a nazi group? Hell yeah we will double the high score of the nazis.

Shill subverts us as racists? Hell yeah we want to cut down rainforests and kill endangered beasts as well!

Just fucking own it m8. The response you get is hilarious. There's no reason to take shill debates seriously anyway, might as well fuck with their minds.

To fight it is to be distracted. They want you to fight their subversion constantly. Quit trying to bilge the water out of your ship and let yourself become a submarine!

>>138636021
This is valid. I think though the left has made a mistake of being soft on communism. It has made people more open to communism, a shit tier murderous ideology. Nazism is better but not by a large margin because America is such an ethnically mixed country already
It's gonna be doomed to fail without a racewar taking place (edgy responses incoming). Both Nazism and communism are 20th century ideologies and need to stay there desu senpai

>>138635799
>overzealous libtard.
I'm not, don't confuse classical liberalism with todays liberalism. And I'm a conservative traditionalist nationalist as well.

>>138636430
Precisely this

>>138636638
Found the jew.

>>138632078
well what you say is partly true. But remember there are also unironically some retarded stormfag type idiots who think they're going to lead a glorious new revival of a failed idealogy. Sad thing is that classic imperial Americanism is not only more attractive it would be more successful and draw tons of normies

>>138636658
It was just an insult (one that can equally be applied to classical liberals or libertarians in my view) because you were jumping at the opportunity to make the stale point that "nazis are socialist" without seemingly bothering to read the post.

>>138632078
14 out in the open 88 in private. You can still like the philosophy without parading it in rallies.

>>138636994
>without seemingly bothering to read the post.
I admit, I skimmed through it.
>>138637258
>88 in private
Kys.

>>138632078
Aren't you feeling a little sleepy?

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>>138632078
Assange RT'd this today, i would suggest instead of "free-speech rally" just change it to ouright Nazi rally, AND on federal land (national monuments). This will signal to all sane people not to attend and bring out the nuts to be arrested.

>>138632078
No, OP, it's a golden oppourtunity. If we can stratigically control the Nazi LARPers, we can control where the paid antifa AND BLM go.

>>138632078
>Best way to fight subversion is to fully accept the subversion tactics as your own, and embracing it to a level beyond that which the shills were ready to shill their tactic at.
>Still subverts alt right into a nazi group? Hell yeah we will double the high score of the nazis.
>Shill subverts us as racists? Hell yeah we want to cut down rainforests and kill endangered beasts as well!
>Just fucking own it m8. The response you get is hilarious. There's no reason to take shill debates seriously anyway, might as well fuck with their minds.
>To fight it is to be distracted. They want you to fight their subversion constantly. Quit trying to bilge the water out of your ship and let yourself become a submarine!


Hail Hitler o/

>>138636852
I literally called out the jew in the OP. You have to understand you need to be palatable to normies. The jew redpill should be one of the last they take, not the first thing thrown at them

>>138639052
Stop using "literally" in every fucking sentence you inbred hick.

>>138634739
Nah I understand that. And while it may be appealing to some, it won't be appealing to average Americans, centrists, normies, voters. There are probably elements of conspiracy in it but I'm more trying to warn against people against using Nazi imagery in protests thinking it's going to be a positive or successful thing

>>138632078
The elites are not only the Jew

>>138639526
Actually the first time I used it. I bet you don't even know who the pic in OP is. Braindead commie retard. Stop using ad hom and maybe refute an actual point for once you low IQ cuckold fuck

>>138632078
You certainly don't see Antifa waving around Stalin and Mao pictures and quotes everywhere. On top of that natsoc is just another branch of leftist authoritarian pap no matter how much people try to dress it up otherwise.

>>138640016
You dick lickers are unable to form a fucking sentence without using "literally" Carry on goofball.

>>138632078
The Hitler stuff is meant to shove the white man towards communism. Do not engage.

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>>138636891
>failed idealogy

You can't even spell it right. And it only "failed" because Jews rallied the biggest military powers in the world to defeat them. You even sided with commies.

>Sad thing is that classic imperial Americanism
You've had that for the last 50+ years. It has been useless, destructive and has failed to conserve anything.

Also I don't know why you keep pushing the "pro-American" meme. Not all of us are American.

No one was "waving Nazi flags". There was literally one flag, probably a plant, and it wasn't waved. No one can do shit other than organizers doing more screening.

>>138640331
>You certainly don't see Antifa waving around Stalin and Mao pictures and quotes everywhere.

You'll see plenty of Hammer & Sickle symbols among them, a lot more than "Nazi flags". Most people don't bat an eye because the media sides with them, and Marxist indoctrination in schools.

>On top of that natsoc is just another branch of leftist authoritarian pap no matter how much people try to dress it up otherwise.
Do you also think monarchies are "leftist authoritarianism"?

How long are you gonna keep whining about this?

OP is right and you all know it. The fucking Nazi flag is a mistake. Use the confederate flag if you need a rallying point to show supremacy. It'll not only get a you a lot of support from the south, you could probably get conservatives of a certain age range on your side.

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>>138641374
The Nazi flag faggot was a plant. It was all staged.

>>138632078
>the alt lite believes this

Lmaoin at ur lyfe rite now

>>138632078
Nobody is even injecting that shit in general. It's always one or two retards doing stupid shit for the media to put it under a microscope. If alt-right rallies had good dress codes and better rules/organization I think they would think twice, but as it stands one dumbass can fuck everything up for the rest of the group because they can't not affiliate with the guy. They should be able to just say, "No, look at our publicly available rules, we're white nationalists, not Nazis" and then everyone can go home and heil Hitler with their buddies in private.

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>>138641374

m8 take your insecurity back to plebbit. You're not gonna change anyone's actions by whining on a taiwanese basket-weaving forum, whoever brings out Nazi flag (plant or not) isn't gonna care about you write here.

>"show supremacy"
You literally talk like leftist.

National Socialism and Confederates aren't interchangeable.

>>138641755

If true, it doesn't surprise me in the least. Politics changed since Trump. I honestly can't wait to see how crazy it'll all get.

>>138632078
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>>138632078
Are you fucking retarded? Nobody gave a fuck about this place before Trump got big, MAYBE if I'm being extra generous /pol/ started getting more high profile during the George Zimmerman trial.

This place used to be way more oriented around holocaust denial and Jewish conspiracies before the 2016 elections. To deny it is to betray the fact that you're a newfag or really fucking shit at PR.

Most of the culture surrounding "the alt right" grew out of 4chan, who in turn had been cultivating pro-Hitler / anti-Jew sentiment since at least 2009 if not earlier. Yes, it makes the far right look really bad to normies but its not like the FBI or someone injected it into the fabric of "the alt right" a week ago to make us all look bad or something. Own it, ya fuckin vagina

>>138632078
There's no point trying to convince them, Nazi LARPers don't actually care about saving western civilization or white people, obviously, as long as they can continue their retarded fantasy.

I've been telling you idiots for years that natsocs were retard genetic trash and to police them, now you're stuck with these underclass retards stealing the media spotlight >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>138642230

Don't know what's a plebbit nor I am trying to change anybody's action. I have no stakes in your little game kid.

Politics are about branding. Not ideals. Only children do not know this.

>>138632078
>The injection of Nazi LARPing and Hitler edginess into the alt-right is a subversion tactic
Charlottesville gave us the wake up we needed. Don't worry.

>>138642612
I've been on 4chan since like 2007 I know all about what you're talking about. You miss my point. The alt right as a movement needs to outgrow 4chan to make tangible change in the real world. What I'm suggesting is an option to how the evolution of the movement could take place.

the alt-right "movement" was created specifically to make old /pol/ rhethoric on jews, races and history inaudible and muddied.
alt-right doesn't exist, people who talk about alt-right are useful idiots or the enemy, same as people who stopped naming the jews and started using ((()))

>>138642902
see
>the movement
were doing just fine fuck off

>>138632078
>The injection of Nazi LARPing and Hitler edginess into the alt-right is a subversion tactic meant to discredit the movement and make it distasteful to normies, thereby neutering it before it has a chance to gain true power.

this. Anyone who complains when we try to get rid of roman salutes and swastikas is a shill.

Remember the guy with the Nazi flag at Unite the Right? Yea turns out he was a fed all along

>>138632078
You're absolutely right.

>>138643051
>a word

Well what the fuck else are you supposed to call it. Quit being obsessed with semantics

>>138642985
wow yea and the last 50 years of nazi larping has really worked well hasn't it? they've really made big progress by flying those nazi flags havent they? did you ever think we might be in a new kind of world with the internet that requires a new kind approach?

FUCK OFF

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>>138632078
The kids love it!

>>138642902
/pol/ is an entity separate to "the movement". Honestly we need to start meeting up in real life and learning how to organize as well as the left does, our willful individuality is our one major weakness. Depending on the internet to communicate and organize is precisely the reason you get some random edgelord neckbeard showing up dressed like a fag and making you look bad.

If local chapters started meeting up irl the larpers could be rightfully mocked so that they don't embarass you when you're under the national spotlight. Plus if shit starts to heat up it'd be a good idea to be able to meet with a group of people you know and trust in the event of civil unrest rather than all of us hiding in our homes and taking potshots of passerby while f5'ing /pol/ trying to figure out what the fuck's going on

>>138643273
I been here since 2006 and what I wanna know is how you could be around for this long and all of a sudden come to the conclusion that our implied community has some sort of goal oriented meaning for this Alt Whatever bullshit so much so that you want to lecture on the nazi board about how we should up and change for your political ideals.

Youre a liar, a nigger and not fit to be trusted. Shove your movement up your ass. Tire of these fucks

>>138632078
Wrong. Replace Nazi with "Confederate" and "White Supremacy" and you have a valid point.

The true patriots of this country understand how unequivically Un-American a Zionist-controlled monopoly is.

www.theZOG.info/list-summaries

>>138643451
The only reason people don't like Nazi's is because Hollywood Kikes created the Holohoax. Pull the veil that is over everyone's eyes and they would be National Socialists too.

You're a faggot for associating stupid fucking skins heads and their dumb nigger neo-nazi movement where they actually hate niggers because of the color of their skin to actual Nazi's who fought with Blacks, Asians, Muslims and Jews that all swore fealty to the Reich.

You can fuck off you faggot kike.

>>138632375
He is right and you are wrong. Your intentionally trying to sabotage the white race.

>>138643451
/pol/ used to be a board full of people with varied opinions joined by the hatred of the semite, there was very little larping until 2011 and the real explosion was when reddit invaders, of which you belong, started flooding in at the start of the latest american primaries.

>>138642230
Another idiot using "literally" in every fucking sentence.

100 CE
Tacitus writes anti-Jewish polemic in his Histories (book 5 (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext ?lookup=Tac.+Hist.+5.1)). He reports on several old myths of ancient antisemitism (including that of the donkey's head in the Holy of Holies), but the key to his view that Jews "regard the rest of mankind with all the hatred of enemies" is his analysis of the extreme differences between monotheistic Judaism and the polytheism common throughout the Roman world.

495
A Jewish uprising in Alexandria claims the lives of many Christians.[14] Bishop Cyril forces his way into the synagogue, expels the Jews and gives their property to the mob. Later, near Antioch, Jews are accused of ritual murder during Purim.[15] Christians confiscate the synagogue.

1195
After falsely being accused of ritual murder with no evidence, the daughter of Rabbi Isaac bar Asher ha-Levi is murdered, dismembered and her body parts are hung around the market place for days. Ha- Levi was killed the following day along with 8 other Jews after trying to recover what was left of his daughter’s body from the mob.

1235
The Jews of Fulda, Germany were accused of ritual murder. To investigate the blood libel, Emperor Frederick II held a special conference of Jewish converts to Christianity at which the converts were questioned about Jewish ritual practice. Letters inviting prominent individuals to the conference still survive. At the conference, the converts stated unequivocally that Jews do not harm Christian children or require blood for any rituals. In 1236 the Emperor published these findings and in 1247 Pope Innocent IV, the Emperor's enemy, also denounced accusations of the ritual murder of Christian children by Jews. In 1272, the papal repudiation of the blood libel was repeated by Pope Gregory X, who also ruled that thereafter any such testimony of a Christian against a Jew could not be accepted unless it is confirmed by another Jew. Unfortunately, these proclamations from the highest sources were not effective in altering the beliefs of the Christian majority and the libels continued.[57]

1250
Saragossa: death of a choirboy Saint Dominguito del Val prompts ritual murder accusation. His sainthood was revoked in the 20th century but reportedly a chapel dedicated to him still exists in the Cathedral of Saragossa.

1288
The Jewish population of Troyes is accused of ritual murder. 13 Jewish martyrs are burned at the stake, sacrificing themselves to spare the rest of the community.[66]

1546
Martin Luther's sermon Admonition against the Jews contains accusations of ritual murder, black magic, and poisoning of wells. Luther recognizes no obligation to protect the Jews.

1639
Jews of Lenchitza are accused of ritual murder after a young child is found dead in the woods. The blame falls on the Jews after a local gentile named Foma confesses to the crime then says he had been coerced into doing it by the Jews. Despite the lack of evidence, two Jewish elders named Meyer and Lazar are arrested and tortured, and eventually quartered publicly.[130]

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>>138632078
>The injection of Nazi LARPing and Hitler edginess into the alt-right is a subversion tactic
You clueless nigger, /pol/'s had Nazi flags since 2013 (pic related)
Not to mention /new/ and /n/ (proto-/pol/)'s had Nazi symbolism throughout the late 00s.

1910
The 1910 Shiraz blood libel was a pogrom of the Jewish quarter in Shiraz, Iran. It was sparked by accusations that the Jews had ritually murdered a Muslim girl. By the end of the pogrom, 12 Jews were killed, 50 or so were wounded, and 6,000 were robbed of all their possessions.

>>138639753
Did American Fascists/Natsocs ever create their own flag etc?

1928
The Massena blood libel was an instance of blood libel against Jews in which the Jews of Massena, New York, were falsely accused of the kidnapping and ritual murder of a Christian girl in September 1928

>>138643746
I like 4chan but I care about my people and my country more. I don't think you understand, what's going on with Trump, the media, the political violence in the real world right now is an outgrowth of something that started here. It's not "le sekrit club" anymore. It's not about "staying true" to the /b/ tier values anymore. It's about actualizing the sentiments many people feel on this board into something real, and that involves compromise and branding

>>138636021
If you see anyone waiving a nazi flag at our rallies, just ask them to put it away. If they don't put it away, tear it from their hands. It sounds edgy but it's simple as shit because neo-nazis are cowards who won't fight back.

>>138644652
Kekistani and you see how that went. Extra light civic nationalism no different really than the standard republican party line

>>138644652
>>138645028
Oh sorry misread your post. I'm high as hell rn. American natsocs I'm not sure

>>138645028
>Kekistani
I don't think that really counts.

>>138636137
>fresh
>rehashing the same ideas that failed so dismally in the past few decades
Pick one

>>138644792
you can go and do that on reddit, trumplet

>>138644843
and then you get shot because the dude wasn't a neo-nazi but a national socialist

>>138645322
Maybe we shouldn't have violent impulsive man-babies who have temper tantrums at our rallies then?

>>138645536
maybe you shouldn't assault someone because you disagree with his opinions ?

>>138645692
>assault
So ripping a piece of cloth is assault now? Just way till I shoot the fuckers and they scream in physical pain.

>>138645536
Maybe don't make a rally about free speech or some shit like that

>>138645321
Got any other suggestions

>>138645322
Nazi flags will never work. Never in American politics. It carries too much baggage. It will only alienate people that would be otherwise sympathic to your politics. That's all I'm trying to say

>>138644652
probably. look up the american silver legion

>>138645819
Why don't we make a rally on mental illness rights? These neo-nazi scum need it because they're all mentally ill.

>>138644792
This is an independent think tank to discuss politically incorrect topics openly. Not a recruitment center for politically correct ideas. Get off my fucking lawn.

>>138644792
/pol/ is barely apart of 4chan culture anymore. Just go on [s4s] if you want shitposting.

>>138646002
Anon, the issue is that you can't have a free speech rally and then supress free speech.

>>138646046
Read my other posts

>>138645801
stealing someone's property with the usage of force is and warrants self defense

>>138646213
Don't care. I want people to join the cause without autistic adults getting in the way.
>>138646292
It's not stealing if the intention is to "destroy hate speech". And I can use self-defense if he attacks me.

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>>138632375
no
>>138634467
no
>>138641941
yes

Wrong. It's the generic swatika-waving natsoc skinhead of the 80s and 90s who did the hard work of carrying this knowledge about marxism and the jews from WWII to you, the soft "enlightened" alt-righter/identitarian/whatever you call yourself. I can agree with "keep swastikas as your homes and RAC concerts" but you're not gonna totally remove that symbolism because it's such an immediate, volkisch unifier.

>>138646439
>I want
Don't care

How autistic is someone that can't even be internally consistent with his bullshit, anon?

>>138646439
so basically you consider speech you don't like as warranting assaulting someone and stealing his property, but you don't think that assaulting someone warrants self defense and defending yourself is basically being a man-baby throwing a tantrum.

>>138646246
No you read nigger. Youre worse than a Jehovas Witness and your polo shirt and slacks getup is going to embarrass you and your movement and your branding just as much next time you geek.

>inb4 come to muh geocities site and make an account to save muh country. This shit happens every time and you fucks fall for it.

>>138645946
>The uniform shirts bore a scarlet letter L over the heart: an emblem meant to symbolize Loyalty to the United States, Liberation from materialism, and the Silver Legion itself. The blocky slab serif L-emblem was in a typeface similar to the present-day Rockwell Extra Bold.

>The Roman L was the Silver Legion's official symbol.

That could work, honestly. It's not overtly fashy and relates to Liberty. You ought to encourage the LARPers to take it up instead of German nonsense.

>>138646439

yes goy, attack white people to "destroy hate speech". it's for the good of the white identity movement, goy!

gas yourself you crypto-leftist

>>138632078
I salute you OP

>>138647169
Shut your burka hole lol

>>138645932
>It will only alienate people that would be otherwise sympathic to your politics.
Why doesn't the tards not understand this?

>>138646692
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>>138647005
lol, once again neo-nazi scum let their emotions get to them to influence anything they say. You know it's your fucking fault that you bring nazi flags to rallies that cause normies to distance themselves away from us? Shoot me if you want, but I'm going to light your fucking flags on fire right in front of you. How does that make you feel personally? Are you offended now?

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>>138632078

If this meme from this morning is true that is exactly why it started

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>>138632078
pussy ass bitch

People hate being pro-white, people hate being against degeneracy, so fucking what? Should we suddenly convert to Judaism so people will like us more?

>>138636021
No one tries to stop commies because they're delusional and have no support. The new right on the other hand has at least a few million white men in America now, which is why the Charlottesville psy op happened and why they're trying to smother that movement in its crib.

>>138647777
We fought against nazis during WW2, name a war when murka fought against "degeneracy".

>>138647936
They haven't, that is why America is fucking shit

American government and society have been the plaything of liberals since day 1, and the plaything of the Jews for well over 100 years.

>>138647936
The war on drugs

>>138648066
Then do something about it.

>>138648216
That's the plan, bud. By embracing Fascism/National Socialism. Being a complete faggot like the OP won't mean SHIT

>>138648215
>war on drugs
Which CIA caused in the first place by releasing crack cocaine to poor black neighborhoods and trailer trash?

>>138632078
You're too new to understand that /pol/ has always been full of nazi's, and the "alt-right" has always been a /pol/ movement. Richard Mcfuckface took it and tried to make it family friendly. Fuck you and you're stupid frog.

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>>138648282
>By embracing Fascism/National Socialism
Yah, you're a fucking idiot. I am an American nationalist, not German or Italian nationalist. I will not hail in German. I believe in the constitution for fucks sake.

>>138647829
What they wanna do exactly is bait us out so they can single us out and ruin our lives because we are too dumb to conceal our identities

What they are afraid of is getting busted in the mouth out of nowhere because the average joe right next to them is tired of their shit. Be an average joe. fuck this movement garbage. I vote in secret and I fight in secret and thats ...problematic.

>>138648318
An America ran by Nazis, or Commies for that matter, would probably be plagued by false flag moral panics (i.e. degeneracy that must be cleansed) to keep people's anger focused on irrelevant bullshit rather than their own ineptitude.

>>138648318

War on Drugs started under Nixon.

>>138648655
To reverse CIA's bullshit

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>>138648425
Exactly. A truly radical movement dedicated to truth will NEVER be seen as "family friendly" and "respectable" in a world of decay.

>>138648458
America isn't a nation. A nation is a people bound by blood and soil. It is obvious that America has NEVER developed this concept of blood and soil whatsoever, and any American "nationalism" will be inherently CIVIC and not REAL nationalism.

Even among White Americans, they are not even close to being a nation either.

http://ropeculture.org/2016/04/26/white-non-identity/

Also,
>valuing a liberal document while calling yourself a nationalist

Total retardation

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>>138646213
I keep hearing that from different people. It's a canned response, libtards love their canned responses. Leads me to believe your nothing more than controlled opposition, We will start treating you as the enemy. Not a fucking thing you faggots do has helped. You have made everything harder on our movement. It is one thing to fuck around on /POL but it is different in the real world. In the real world I will kick you fucking teeth down you throat and shove that Nazi flag ( as much as it pains me.) up your ass. Fucking tried of you fucks always Screwing shit up. You are our weakest link. If you cannot control your urges to act like a retard than pay the consequences. Beating the fuck out of you would be the shot in the arm the Right needs. It's about time we make an example out of you retards

>>138648818
America doesn't need to be white to be united. The Roman Empire was mixed as fuck.
>>valuing a liberal document while calling yourself a nationalist
Classic liberal.

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You will never out distance the swastika. Jews control the Media. Any counter group
formed to fight jewish communism and it's multiculturalism will be endlessly compared
to nazi's/racists/white supremacists.

Whites need to normalize the swastika. First it will be seen as hateful. sick. then it will be
seen as corny and bad taste. then it will be popularized again. In case you idiot fucks haven't
noticed the youth are counter culture to the extreme- so much so they're wearing kekistani
flags in highschool now. We need to do what the jews do. KEEP PUSHING. We're at the edge
of normalization. Disagree with the left even to a small degree? RACIST NAZI. we're winning
so hard right now. Keep being edgy. Keep being satirical. Do what the left did right back to them.
Insult the normies. make fun of people who disagree. Prompt a new narrative.

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>>138647936
>We fought against nazis during WW2

And it was a mistake. Most Americans opposed entering the war, and Patton said you faught the wrong enemy. You only fought them because FDR used Pearl Harbor as an excuse to send troops to Europe to serve his banking masters like Churchill did. All WW2 did was kill millions of men, destroy Europe, and enslave Western civilization to the Jews.

>a war when murka fought against "degeneracy".
You literally had laws against interracial marriage, obscenity, sodomy, etc. before the 60s. A lot of the culture wars in the US have always been centered around that.

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>>138649005
>America doesn't need to be white to be united. The Roman Empire was mixed as fuck
>classical liberal

We're reaching new heights of autism here

You are not a nationalist. You an retarded faggot. Go play in a sandbox until you get redpilled

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>brainwashed from birth to think they're evil
>surprised when people think they're evil

The only people who like Hitler and the Nazis are intelligent individuals (barring Neo-Nazi skinheads)

>>138649276
Since America's inception, the South was pretty much the only force that held onto any semblance of a traditional worldview. In spite of Americanism, it persevered until Ameicanism reached its ugly claws on it to destroy it

America was never good, America was never great. It has always been based on extreme liberalism, lies, and decay

>>138632078

But it's ((FUN))! Don't you want to have fun at expense of the white races future? It's just trolling, goyim.

>>138649276
Nobody was gong to allow the Nazis to start killing Americans like the Japs. That was the fear during the time.
>>138649284
>you an retarded faggot
Irony

>>138649023
Your controlled opposition. We don't have time to normalize the swastika. That ship sailed long ago. We are fighting now.

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>>138632078
You are all brainlets.
Do any of you understand what the overton window is and how it works?
It has shifted so far left over the last few decades that centrist now occupy the political space once held by far leftists.
The ideas and actions considered to be far right today would have been consider right of center a few decades ago.
You cannot move the overton window without normalizing the far right. At the very least, the alt-lite position (which is mid as fuck) should be mainstream policy.

>>138650229
You're*

Also, a Fascist/National Socialist will not make a decaying society it's master, but it must become the master of a decaying society

If the swastika is normalized, our worldview will also be.

>>138634739
This.

>>138650285
Sorry for not taking philosophy in high school.

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>>138649441

Nice revisionism and literally using a liberal slogan.

>>138649522
>Nobody was gong to allow the Nazis to start killing Americans like the Japs

They all knew Hitler would never attack them, Germany was already too busy fighting against the USSR and on every front in Western and Eastern Europe, there were even lots of protests about American involvement in the war. Let grandpa Burger tell you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it66GmDEW-8

It's funny how Americans have recognized the mistake of the Iraq War which was also driven by Zionists, but a lot of them don't think twice about WW2 or WW1. If those wars happened during the information age, things would've a lot different.

>That was the fear during the time.
No the real fear was communism, and guess what after WW2 you had the Red Scare, McCarthysim, Red China under Mao, Pol Pot, Communist Eastern Europe/Iron Curtain, all the deaths in the USSR, the Cold War, Communist North Vietnam, Communist Cambodia, dividing Korea into North Korea and South Korea, Communist Cuba, the EU, cultural marxism becoming the norm in the West... So it was a legitimate fear. Another result of American involvement was allowing the spread of communism. If America and Britain didn't side with commies, NatSoc Germany would've fought the USSR alone and communism would've been defeated, and it would've been the beginning of the end for the global banking elite everywhere.

>>138650340
Explain what your plan will be to "normalize" the swastika without edgy impulsive mental cases joining?
>>138650763
I feel bad for based grandpa.

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>>138650229
>We are fighting now.

Who's fighting? Where are the guns? what cities have been on fire for days? These are
minor street skirmishes. We're still in the talking game. We're still in the narrative setting
time. Jewish focus is trying to crush internet sites because they CAN"T respond to whites
actually coming together and being political waving flags (confederate flags and swastikas)
the jews have condemned for so long. They've hit the wall.

>>138650229
>We don't have time to normalize the swastika

We have as much time as we're willing to shed being politically incorrect. Get any many
people onto a message that fights the jews unapologetically. I'm White. I'm not sorry for
history. No you won't guilt me for being White. Here's flags and symbols that you hate
right back in your face- defiantly. I'm going to continue to speak. I'm going to be logical
and articulate while doing everything I can to make you rage. We want polarization.


>>138650229
>Your controlled opposition.

And you're probably a white over the age of 40 thinking as long as we're patriotic to
the stars and stripes civic nationalist style we can slowly show how unracist we really are.
You are a fossil. Or a shill.

Whites should condemn Jews. They are not White. They do not belong in White countries. Whites
should unite against multiculturalism. We should be intolerant of people who try to shame us for
our history or try and force us into using censored speech.

>>138644360

I know for a fact that you are antifa.

>>138650340
It will take 80 years to undo that propaganda. We don't have that luxury. You just creating a larger divide. For a so called Nazi you don't understand how Hitler got the support of the Normies. Your living in a fantasy world. We will rally around a new symbol not one full of failure. We would like to put that aside and start fresh with out the burdens of the old. We can focus on achieving our goals. The Swastika is a historic curiosity, and should have been left there.

>>138651418
Be practical

>all the effort needed to normalize a three quarter century old political symbol, associated with the former enemy of America

OR

>any other symbol

>>138651127

The taboo is artificial, it dies off more and more with each generation. the swastika hasn't been seen as a symbol of "evil" for decades outside the anglosphere.

>>138651958
Newsflash, we live in the anglosphere. You're deluded

>>138632078
Shut up you alt-lite cuck. You have such a boring, dense redpill level that it gets on my fucking nerves. Sage.

>>138651958
>swastika
>not evil
burger education

>>138652243
>alt lite
>preserving the white race
>ending degeneracy
>naming the jew

Another retard who can't into social science

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>>138652307
https://www.thelocal.no/20150413/norway-child-agency-seizes-children-to-combat-inbreeding

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>>138632078

>>138652482
wdym

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>>138651741

Jews don't control just 25% or even 50% of the media. They control 100%
of it. You can name your "party" or your "group" whatever you like. They will never
let you off of the hook for being white and understanding how evil jews really are.

You have people in the streets now with both flags. In defiance of this because they
are angry. They are tired of censorship. This mindset must be allowed to grow.
All things politically incorrect. All the talking that hurts the normies feelings. How
jews can abuse non-jews and they are morally absolved through the satanic talmud.

Should we stop talking about the talmud too? Is that to hateful or bigoted? Maybe we
should just stop talking about the jews all together too right, according to your logic?
We are winning right now. The youth should only get more angry going forward. they should
be pushing the boundary's of social acceptance. All the infrastructure of Europe as well as
America should be ridiculed Leftist style. They socially deconstructed us. Now it's our turn
to deconstruct how mentally ill and jewish the left is. Oh and by the way. Here's a flag in your
face to make you militant. Perhaps you'll even attack me for it. What an amazing utility tool.
Now you have a lightning rod that makes the left violent when you want. Maybe rally's where
flags such as these get displayed should be recorded and set to a pro-white narrative....
Get it? you probably don't.

>>138652713
Please read my posts more thoroughly. You can't use the swastika in protests and expect it to be successful because of the baggage. Even if you like Hitler, leave it at home. It does more harm than good by alienating moderates. The confederate flag at least has historical roots in the south

>>138652651
dafuq

>>138651418
Before you dig your grave any further, My Grandfather came over during operation paperclip. He embraced everything American. Apple pie, baseball and the pledge of allegiance. While deep within he was still Nazi. Because he knew the Reich would rise again. But not as the old Reich. You do not understand the hatred for Germans in America after WW2. Could you imagine the hatred for a real Nazi? No I would imagine you don't, and never will. Your a lapping faggot. That's all you ever will be. As I said before you are working against us.

>>138652929
Better to die standing than live kneling. Unless we have balls to be direct and not lie to people, we've got to stand and say exactly what we are, unless you wanna become the new Jews.

>>138652892
Okay but why does naming the jew have to be always inextricably linked with Hitler and the swastika? If you want to be so successful why don't you disconnect the simple concept of naming the Jewish media monopoly from the failures of Hitler and his regime. Make it an original idea. You have an emotional connection to the symbol and that's it. Get real

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>>138652307
>falling for the Holohoax meme
>forgetting that the Swastika was an old symbol using for thousands of years in Indo-European cultures and even in Indua before Hitler was born

European education. Yes goy, hate your own history!

Do you love your hate speech laws? Do you love the fact that communists are allowed to wear a hammer & sickle despite their ideology having killed over 100M and Jews are free to deny their involvement in the USSR massacres and the Holodomor while you can't even question the Holocaust without being fined or jailed?

>>138653331
name the jew and you get called a nazi. end.

>>138652892
Larping as a nazi in a 100% Jew controlled media. Think about this. You just said it.

>>138632078
I like the Nazis.

>>138653532
LARPing? Mate, i am dead serious.

>>138653432
you misunderstood
burger said swastika isn't seen as evil outside the Anglosphere, which it is
i'm an ethno-nationalist, so fuck off

>>138653282
>you are working against us.

Your post comes across dated from an era where you do not understand the modern
times. You are not worth a reply.

>>138653331
>why does naming the jew have to be always inextricably linked with Hitler and the swastika

In America when you criticize Jews in any way no matter how lightly you are immediately bombarded
by accusations of racisim/neo nazi'ism and white supremacy. You will never out distance Hitler. So you
bombard people with the truth of that period. You must not watch any content that gets posted on youtube.
The change in public opinion. The views they get, or how jews try to censor them.

>>138653532
>Larping as a nazi in a 100% Jew controlled media.

I'm not the brownshirts in public kinda guy. I'm the White shirts dressed nicely no fatties with flags that trigger
people kinda guy. Whites in Europe as well as America have no representation. We are targeted for destruction.
They are taking our youth in public school and teaching them to be transgender. All manner of evil is set against us.

We are not going to moderately discuss this in public and end the discourse with a hand shake. We need to show
people what is being done to us. We need to make people angry. We need to do things that will inject emotion into
the conversation. We need to come across as rabid. As angry. To point fingers and explain why. We need to take
the things our things, our history that has been painted as evil and turn it right back around to be used on our
enemies.

>>138655456
>We need to do things that will inject emotion into
>the conversation. We need to come across as rabid. As angry
Look where that got the leftists

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>>138632078
fucking kek. wait you guys don't actually consider yourselves """"alt-right"""" do you? I thought we went over this like a year and a half ago. You guys are getting played by the media,and are now lumped in with the like 5 retards who considered themselves """"alt-right""""" .

If you want to attend rallies and really throw the media for a whirl just do what that one nerd did and wear an israeli flag or profess your love for israel. Libs hate the way Israel treats mudshits, and you know the freaks at the rally would come at you hard over this. The media being in a pickle would just abandon the story all together. Which is basically the best we can do at this point. At least as far as the left media is concerned. When the leftists attack you, you'll be all over conservative media though. Trump will bring this up, and it'll be national news.

>>138655843

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Ux44OgIUc
Parent Manhandled Arrested While Speaking Out Against Common Core

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvnKTe534aU
Germans Outraged by Mayor's Response to Sex Attacks by Migrants

We need to make these people, preferably the youth- enraged and put on the political
offense. The left deserves a very public deconstruction. I feel I've sufficiently expressed
my opinion. Since you disagree perhaps you could let the rest of us in on your correct
master plan then?

>>138632078
You are right. Stormfags and redditors ruined this board.

>>138651418
You're an idiot if you think you can normalize the swastika before the opposition's narrative wins out.

You're actually speeding that along.

How do you not see this?

You're a dumb kid whose brain hasn't fully matured.

>>138655456
>our history
Would you care to elaborate? As for my other post being out of date? Your out of touch with reality. You hardly understand the system your trying to engage. What part about stealth do you not understand. I believe as you do. The difference is I have credibility, a pillar of the community. You on the other hand, would be torn to bits in a actual riot. I am free to move about society without the chains my grandfather carried around of being a former Nazi. Yet you want to embrace the chains.

>>138632078
You will always lose, fascist authoritarianism isn't uniquely American either

>>138657283
They hurt us more than help us. They have become a liability.

>>138656844
These faggots have become uppity since Trump got in, just like the niggers when Obongo got in.

>>138659039
It really is pathetic. By labeling themselves the "alt-right" and doing stupid shit they are just handing the media what they want on a silver platter.

No one is going to support NAZIS in this country. If you are against some monument being taken down and have to attend a rally, just say that is why you are there. It's like these people have no self awareness.

I still like the idea I pushed. Go to a right wing rally but just say something about Israel. Because leftists love Palastine for some reason, and will get super pissed at you just for bringing up Israel. It's really very easy to work the system if you know who controls it.

bump

>>138659619
this. sad.

>>138658553

There were like 5000+ people at the rally. One Nazi flag, might be a plant.

If that's enough to destroy your """"movement""", you never had a chance in the first place. You're basically screaming in the void as if anyone here actually takes Nazi flags to rallies.

What happens if you start cucking for the next 5 years, and at that point a FBI/leftist plant comes with another Nazi flag? Where will that get you?

You're like liberals falling for media narratives.

>>138657796
>normalize the swastika before the opposition's narrative wins out

The left has the media, most of the government, the police and the intelligence
services. Yet we still exist, have rally's in public and as the indoctrination only increases
in the coming years it will only make more White people rebel. You are the idiot who
can't see this.

Also if anybody replies to me please state your goal for turning this right around. I'm all ears.

>>138658303
>What part about stealth do you not understand.

Oh i better understand you now. This is more of the Silent majority concept. America failed
because White's didn't use there overwhelming political identity. Whites in America actually
chose to remain silent and let themselves be dominated by minorities and jews. But hey-
according to you- these same whites will smarten up. Re infiltrate the government and give whites
proper representation at some magical point down the line yes? All the while doing it from the shadows.

If you are not vocal. If you are not constantly expressing your political will, if you are not visible, making
gains, just like the jews do- always pushing you are pushed aside. That is the lesson of Whites in America.
Never to sit in the shadows. To always advocate. The silent majority concept is a failure, and you urging more
of this mindset is lunatic level insanity.

>>138658303
>I believe as you do.

You do not. Otherwise you would be unapologetic and unashamed.

This is true

>>138660138
If that one Nazi flag was carried by someone with his face covered than I might believe the plant part. Because if someone had his face uncovered and was outed as a liberal he would be figured out quick in this day and age. it would totally change the game.

>>138636137
Exactly.

I am someone deeply concerned with the marriage of demographics to SJW politicals and culture. I don't think the rapidly changing demographics is accidental or organic. It is engineered. It's a tactic for a political end.

I can get behind a form of white/civic nationalism.

But Nazis fucking turn me right off.

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>>138660811

Isn't it strange how this one guy wasn't doxxed?

>>138661246
this

you speak for many who usually keep silent, the dumb LARPers only help the fucking antiwhite scum.

>>138632078
>The injection of Nazi LARPing and Hitler edginess into the alt-right is a subversion tactic meant to discredit the movement and make it distasteful to normies
true, it was pioneered by the JIDF, but we've coopted it to spook normie jews

how mad are they gonna be when the second wave of National Socialism sweeps the earth because they were larping to defeat enemies with chutzpah

actual synagogue of satan btfo

>>138632078
> OP you are brainwashed, read a book

>>138661455
someone fucking doxx him then. even if he considered himself a lefty on all social media. we have no place for that in 2017!!

>>138661962
wtf

>>138662156
star of davids cover their flag with a swastika, it's edgy

>>138655063
Well in Asia you'll see people with swastikas, even on their clothes, but that's because they have a completely different connotation towards it. In the West its unanimously regarded as a symbol of "evil" though, and should be avoided if you want to create a mass movement and recruit people.

>>138632078
>I KNOW WE'RE LITERALLY A BUNCH OF NAZI LARPERS ON /pol/
>BUT WHEN *ANYONE* SHOWS UP IN REAL LIFE TO SUPPORT THEIR NAZI BELIEFS, IT'S A PSY OP TO UNDERMINE US!!!

So basically, you guys recognize just how shitty you are, and KNOW you're political poison, and you think people that actually show up to support your views(like David Duke) are somehow jewish trickery because they actually agree with you.

That is genuinely funny as shit. You recognize you're such piles of shit that when some of you actually show up in person, you think they're traitors for not hiding their views.

The only reason you're starting to lose is normies are starting to wake up that Antifa and the raving angry left actually had a point, because there is an undercurrent of nazi white supremacist sentiment among your ranks.

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>>138662065
>we have no place for that in 2017!!
>literally the "IT'S 2017!!!!" argument used by lefties
>in a previous post this same poster asked people to bring an Israeli flag
>WE NEED TO DOX LE EBUL NEO-NAZEES
>!!

I wonder (((who))) could behind this post.

Kill yourself kike.

>>138632078
Shutup kike. Your race is going to go extinct and you know it. No amount of shilling is going to stop it this time.

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>>138632078
Nigger I was natsoc before you were even alt-lite

>>138662621
no asshole, we aren't LARPers.

Neo Nazis exist because of leftwing insanity and calling white people who don't go along with it "Nazis". 100% your creation. Fuck off.

>>138632078
>Concern Troll: Oy Vey goyim! Whatever you do, don't be the one ideology we Jews absolsutely hate! You can be a Conservative Republican or a liberal Democrat...but whatever you do, don't be a pro-White National Socialist! Don't forget to vote! heh heh heh"

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>>138632078
https://twitter.com/TrumInTheNorth/status/899793901724336130

>>138662639
I was joking retard. Hold the left by the same standards the kikes have set on the right

>>138662749
>Neo Nazis exist because of leftwing insanity and calling white people who don't go along with it "Nazis". 100% your creation

Love this "victim" reactionary line, except it doesn't convince the average person. "Oh yeah sure okay, you're a nazi because some left wing people were mean. Makes totally sense. I'm on your side now!"

Antifa says the same thing about you. That they're a reaction to your hatred and nazi sentiments. Being a "reaction" to something doesn't mean that your beliefs are valid.

>Yeah I gained a penchant for torturing children to death because Antifa exists. I'm just reacting to that.

Dumb faggot.

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>>138632078
/pol/ is satire you stupid stormfags

>>138663125
if antiwhite policies and demonization didn't exist, neither would neo nazis

You dumb inhumane faggot, you are part of the oppressors.

99% of neo nazis are totally peaceful, the few that do violent shit DON'T TORTURE KIDS you fuckin cocksucker scumbag.

>>138632078
Cato is the OG jew slayer

>>138635310
that is the kkk polish version lol .. they are huwhite supremecists

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>>138662752
yes, yes keep pushing

yesssss

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>>138632078
No it isn't. Adolf Hitler was a good man.

>>138663364
>99% of neo nazis are totally peaceful

yeah all those criminal records are fake right

>we dindu nuthun
>we peaceful and full of love naoww
>i disavow my own criminal history

k

This. The people agree with us, but are afraid to speak out. You must make it easy for them to speak. They will not speak if they think they speak for nazis.

Every attempt by the left at labeling us nazis will fall on deaf ears if we are not visibly nazis.

Even people like Southern, Watson, Shapiro are our allies in this. The red pill cannot be taken in all at once. It must be gradual. We are winning. Don't fall for accelerationism. Every day more of their lies are exposed and our truths are known.

>>138663776
stfu larper

>>138664177
99% of them are just shit talkers with no record, dumbass, a neo nazi is someone who thinks "Hidlr did nuffin rong". Most of them are peaceful people.

You're buying into stupid antiwhite stereotypes. Fuck off, loser.

>>138663364
>if antiwhite policies and demonization didn't exist, neither would neo nazis

If right wing demonization of liberals and white nationalists didn't exist, neither would antifa. You do realize you're not going to win this "we're justified because we're just reacting!" game, right? Not everyone joins a cause at the same time. Both sides are reacting to each other, and neither group is justified simply because they are reacting to something.

The simple truth is you're now losing precious "normie" support because you guys have actually been outed as violent, hateful racists, and most people aren't down with that. They don't like left wing people that are oppressive and sensitive, but they arguably hate white nationalists and outright racists even more.

>You dumb inhumane faggot, you are part of the oppressors.

Wow, truly a scholar and a poet. I'm sure you're going to win more people to your side because you're "oppressed", and thus justified in any action you take. It's hilarious that you're oblivious to just how much of an SJW you've become. "MY ACTIONS ARE ALL JUSTIFIED BECAUSE I AM OPPRESSED!"

>99% of neo nazis are totally peaceful

Except for their desire to hang niggers and murder jews. And their constant calls for day of the rope and gassing. And their threats of violence with guns and constant bullbaiting with how they're ready to "kill all the leftie scum" and are basically begging for a civil war so they can murder people without consequence. Y'know, other than that, yeah sure you guys are totally innocent little lambs.

Nobody is buying it, faggot.

>>138664219
>Even people like Southern, Watson, Shapiro are our allies in this.
shapiro is a straight up zionist tribalist who doesn't give a fuck about anything as long as zionism wins

Shapiro is only anti-leftist because the left is pro-Palestine

Southern is unironically /ourgal/

Watson is a nice old geneticist who knows race is real.

Lumping all 3 together is dumb.

99 percent of real actual neo nazis become Nazi in prison.

Aka de untermensch.

>>138664556
They are stages of rightism. Despite Shapiro's loyalties, he is a coherent, logical, persuasive figure for the right.

I'd rather have 1000 more Shapiro's than 1 Cenk.

>>138664545
>If right wing demonization of liberals and white nationalists didn't exist, neither would antifa.
bullshit,

antifa exists because of mass demonization of white people, you dumb moron, it's part of the same problem.

Neo Nazis are a predictable fucking outcome of demonization of all white identity and lumping all of it into the fringe "Nazi" box. Ethnocentrism is 100% natural. Anti-white nationalism is a war on white human nature.

It's akin to trying to get a gay person to not be gay. Trying to get a black person to not be pro-black, or a white to not be pro-white is inhumane.

Fuck you. White nationalism is more liberal than what goes by the name "liberalism" today. Fuck off, you tool.

And most neo nazis don't do horrendous actions, the just believe stupid shit about WW2, keep mostly to themselves, and fight for a truly good cause IN A STUPID WAY.

Anti-white oppression is real, and until it ends, extremists will pop up. Deal with it, faggot.

>>138632078
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=68e_1503442017

>>138660331
>unapologetic and unashamed.
Funny I am not, every time one of those retarded faggots puts on a Nazi dress uniform it is stolen valor. They are wearing medals and ranks they never earned. That embarrasses me. It's a disgusting farce. Worn by disgusting subhumans. They are not entitled to call themselves Nazis, They never earned that privilege. For your information the Real Nazi party has existed in Stealth.

>>138664556
>Watson is a nice old geneticist who knows race is real.

He meant Paul Joseph Watson, not James Watson.

>>138632375
Get fucked Naziboo. Chad Nationalism is where it's at. 1476 > 1488

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>>138664177
yes keep pushing

>>138646594
>effective unifier
>literally driving away normies right into the hands of the leftists
Neck yourself

>>138663776
>Hitler was a good Man
He was, but that was than, this is now

>>138632078
>communist cabal
>capitalists and corporatist bankers

you can only choose one, dumbass

>>138664962
>bullshit,
>antifa exists because of mass demonization of white people, you dumb moron, it's part of the same problem.

You're just going to keep spouting this same bullshit line because you're too dumb to ever question it. Just a barking extremist.

Nobody cares if you feel oppressed or demonized. They are not going to think "Oh, poor guy. Maybe we really SHOULD hang all niggers!". They're just going to think the left was right about you.

>Neo Nazis are a predictable fucking outcome of demonization of all white identity and lumping all of it into the fringe "Nazi" box.

You seem to be under the stupid impression that all modern neo nazis were created due to a reaction of the modern left when that is blatantly untrue. Stormfags existed far before the left wing ever came to be oppressive during the mid to late 2000's, and they used that opportunity to push their idiocy onto people that were tired of the left. Some of the dumber fags among you bought it and thought this was justified(IE, you), but this kind of reaction is not justified among moderates that will think you're batshit insane. You're just proving horseshoe theory to be true, because you're every bit the violent, insane extremist the SJWs are.

>Ethnocentrism is 100% natural. Anti-white nationalism is a war on white human nature.

All this rhetoric and nothing to back it up. "My easily discredited views are correct because I am OPPRESSED!"

>fight for a truly good cause IN A STUPID WAY.

They fight for a fucking stupid cause in a stupid way because they're just angry and irrational and want to blame blacky for the problems in their shitty life.

>Anti-white oppression is real, and until it ends, extremists will pop up. Deal with it, faggot.

Regardless if it's real or not, your actions are not automatically justified by its existence. I will "deal with it" because I'm going to happily sit back and watch you guys lose the culture war due to your extreme views turning every moderate against you.

>>138646451
Fuck off you gigantic faggot. Seriously kys yourself.

>>138632375
How do stormfags get us to 0% shit-world immigration? Put on a suit and get serious.

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>>138632078
What are you talking about? We are the nazis. 1488 faggot

>>138632078
This. There is a strong need for white interest groups, now that the Dems have finished their carving of America into grievance factions. SJWs have finally transcended argument; just shouting "privilege" is an ipso facto dispositive all-argument.

Normal whites aren't going to put up with that shit, they're going to start popping red pills. Exhibit A: Donald Freaking Trump, your President of the United States.

But Nazis are always going to be comic book villains to 90% of the population. And the other 10% includes all the Jews. If you love your country more than you hate Jews, you have to stop your LARPing.

>>138665863
These assholes don't get it. For every 5 steps forward they push us back four. If they did not behave like retards we would have gained a lot of ground, instead we have lost ground and constantly having to regain it.

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>>138665863
>your extreme views
>whites have a right to exist and for self-determination
>whites should stay a majority in their own country
>the official narrative about WW2 isn't 100% accurate
>blacks and migrants cause a lot of crime and hurt the native culture over time, and also have their own ethnic interest, so whites should act in their own
>Jews have a disprotionate amount of power and might use it for nefarous ends
>extreme

It's only extreme to you because you've been brainwashed by the media so hard.

You see anything pro-white, anything criticizing Jews, anything that isn't MSM propaganda, or Fox News-tier cuckservatism and you scream "NAZI!".

And you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Leftists have been extreme for a lot longer than mid-2000s, it's just been easier to see it with the internet, a lot of people simply realized that the "stormfags" were right.

>>138666571
It is unfortunate, because I'm moderate myself. The grievance is fine(left wing has become genuinely hateful and racist against white people and do everything in their power to undermine them under the delusion that they are "fighting for fairness" and that all whites are inherently evil). Resisting that is fine, being absolutely against it is fine, and calling it out for what it is(white racism) is a strong message that resonates with moderates.

When you out yourself as a racist yourself with all of your jewish boogeyman shit and hatred of black people, you alienate literally anyone who isn't already a raging racist themselves. They don't hate black people or jews, they just hate far left people that want to demonize them.

The simple truth is the right wing has to eject these neo nazi fags and white nationalists from their cause. This isn't about "race realism" or superiority or any of that other shit for most people. It's about dispelling the anti-white rhetoric. When the white nationalist shit is pushed, we lose by default.

But there's no way to disentangle it now. The alt right and neo nazi/white nationalists movements are linked arm in arm. It's ingrained, and the left will always have an excuse for their actions and draw people to their side every time it comes out.

The right wing needs to move towards more moderate, measured conservatism if they want to win and thoroughly reject the larpers.

>>138665101
>it is stolen valor.

Stolen valor is wearing united states military uniforms with the intent to gain from
it financially. I have never seen any oddball NS group try and benefit directly
from the uniform. I have seen them attacked for it though.

>>138665101
>They are wearing medals and ranks they never earned.

Because they are new organizations borrowing heavily from NS symbolism.
Right or wrong, at least they are trying.

>>138665101
>That embarrasses me.

Your wanting to agitate from the shadows without actually doing anything
embarrasses me.

>>138665101
>They are not entitled to call themselves Nazis, They never earned that privilege.
For your information the Real Nazi party has existed in Stealth.

I am not part of the White Supremacist crowd. It is irreverent to me if i am better then another
man or not. I stand by the Third Reich's definition of National Socialism. Asian, Hispanic and Arabic
should be able to join without discrimination. Provided there is no sexual cross pollination and ethnic
boundary lines are recognized and respected.

As for a real super secret nazi party still skulking around in the shadows that's some larping shit.
I'll tell it to Fuhrer Clone number 9 when I get back to Antarctica. He
(and his genetic defect torso Hitler number 10) will be very displeased in you!

>>138644607
This. The amount of people in this thread going along with this shit is mind numbing.

>>138667102
>whites have a right to exist and for self-determination

They already have that, idiot. Nothing stops you from existing or pursuing your own destiny.

>whites should stay a majority in their own country

Racist and stupid. This isn't "your" country, and dividing it by race is pointless. We're already very mixed and most people have intermingled. Trying to draw a line in the sand and saying it belongs to whites is never going to work, since defining what constitutes a "white" person is basically impossible to begin with. If you want white people to keep overall power in the country, then earn it. You can't just sit on your ass and demand that you keep all the cushy jobs and cash flow.

>the official narrative about WW2 isn't 100% accurate

Whatever, nobody even cares about this for the most part. No war is totally accurately accounted for. Most historians can't even get accurate troop numbers for any given battle and disagree over war statistics constantly, so I'm not sure why you give a shit.

>Jews have a disprotionate amount of power and might use it for nefarous ends

Oh no, Jews earned their positions of power and you're begging them to stop because you don't like it. Cry me a fucking river.

>It's only extreme to you because you've been brainwashed by the media so hard.

It's extreme because your opinions are based on stupid shit/gut feelings/4chan infographics and you have a penchant for just blindly believing your own rhetoric and forming extremely hateful opinions based upon them when they aren't grounded in reality often.

>>138647454
>Shoot me if you want, but I'm going to light your fucking flags on fire right in front of you
I really hope you don't say stuff like that in actual conversations. It's pretty embarrassing.

>>138644607
>At rallies

Are you retarded? It poisons any political movement it touches. Trying to bring Nazi insignia into the public hurts a cause -like say, immigration reform- in other words, having a white nation in a pragmatic way.

>>138667845
It's moreso that most people recognize that it's going to lead to an automatic loss for the right, because nazi ideology/white nationalist ideology is purely unpalatable by the general population. You're automatically going to push them into the left's arms.

You can say it's ingrained in the right wing and /pol/ and all of that, and you're right, but it's also what is going to cause you guys to lose big time. It's amusing to me because you guys have this dilemma where you want to say your stupid racist shit in public, but the moment you do you turn everyone against you and lose. So your choice is to try and hide it, but it's always going to be a glaring weakness that is right there for the left wing to expose.

>>138667393
Well said. I do swear these groups are agent provocateurs. David Duke doesn't preach the shit these morons push. If D.D. did not have the Klan in his past he would have been a force to reckon with. But the man is tainted for the rest of his life. He can drop as many red pills as he wants, the reality is he's David Duke.

>>138666317
You'll never get normies behind 1488. 1476 is much easier and relevant to white Americans

>>138632078

You are correct. And your words fall on deaf ears because your people are unable to think 2 steps ahead.
The right associating itself with fucking Hitler as a meme will strip away the last rights you have.
"Alt" right was invented to broaden the definition of a "terrorist", and this will make it easier for them to legally silence you.
You destroy yourselves and destroy your future, everytime you use a nazi flag, the real enemy smiles.
The enemy doesn't even need fo hide himself anymore thanks to the villified right. Shame.

>>138665044
wo

>>138632078
>implying those injected Nazis were real Nazis
You fallen for the double fake rolled trick.

>>138632078
>>138632078
>>138632078

>Duuurrrrr blacks r low IQ subhumans and dats Y they cannot do anything rite and that is why we is better than them.

>Hurrduuuuurrrrrr JEWZ have ah IQ higher than us because for generations they focus on studying and saving but thats not why they control everything. ITS A CONSPIRUHASAYYYY!!!

For the record I'm not a kike, just a regular white guy who focuses on being the best and not crying about a "jewish conspiracy" like a faggot.

So envious lazy anon, why are you a faggot today?

>>138671224
>The right associating itself with fucking Hitler as a meme will strip away the last rights you have.
No Hitler memes. Got it.
>"Alt" right was invented to broaden the definition of a "terrorist", and this will make it easier for them to legally silence you.
Ok, I'll be sure to tell everyone we need to drop the term alt right at the next /pol/ meeting.
>You destroy yourselves and destroy your future, everytime you use a nazi flag, the real enemy smiles.
Yeah, the nazi flags sure do make us look bad. They need to go.

Any other demands? You seem like a pretty great ally. Sorry about that holocaust thing by the way.

Yes i totally agree Nazi larping is out of the question we need more huwhite men like Jared Taylor

>>138632078
Hey RamzPaul

>>138674635

wew

>>138667102

When dealing with groups of people, you need to be smart, not be right.
People who are right with good intentions get fucked over constantly, because they assume justice prevails, it does not.
Being a submersive kike who gave you the swastika flag is smart, for he now destroys you from within.
Witness, the left did not discredit you, you did it to yourselves.
As Sun Tzu said, the best strategist can win a war without fightning.
Why are you so blind.

>>138665211
ohhh

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If the Republic is to survive, we must gain the support of non-whites

Only if we gather around the common principles of private property, liberty, free speech, the right to bear arms and the constitution (but not open borders) we will be fine and America can continue

This is literally the only way. I know im just going to be ignored

guys stop with all the nazi jewish conspiracy stuff we will not be viewed favorably by the normies with that stuff

>>138675890
Yes i totally agree we just need to close the borders that is at this moment the main priority

>>138671224
>"Alt" right was invented to broaden the definition of a "terrorist"
It has been co-opted by liberals to associate the whole right with terrorists but it was originally created to make while nationalism more appealing to normies that get scared by the idea of being associated with groups like the KKK and neonazis.

>>138648458
You can't even agree on what an American is. Even if you have enough sense to be a white nationalist, you'd still let this country get flooded with Romanian inbreds and dumbass Poles.

>>138676249
and it shouldn't be an issue. many mexicans I personally know hate border hopping mexicans. many blacks hate them too. Have more strict legal immigration and crack down on the border hoppers and well be fine

>>138676462
well yes.... to a certain extent. we need more people like Jared Taylor representing the alt right

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>>138676789
this

>>138675890
I am constantly ignored when I voice reason. These morons are incapable of seeing the larger picture. They have to be edgy faggots. I am not condemning National Socialism. I am condemning the usage of Nazi iconology that deliberately derails any logical discourse about the issue we are facing. They should not being doing this in public. Normies are incapable of accepting it.

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>>138668127
>They already have that, idiot. Nothing stops you from existing or pursuing your own destiny.

Wrong the government does nothing but ethnically replace us and being pro-white or acting in our interests in any way is called "privilege" or "supremacy". We don't have self-determination or sovereignty.

>This isn't "your" country, and dividing it by race is pointless.
It is. It was literally founded and created by us. Canada was 97% white before 1970, the US had almost no non-European immigration before the 60s. Read the 1790 Naturalization Act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790
>The original United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103) provided the first rules to be followed by the United States in the granting of national citizenship. This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were free white persons of good character. It thus excluded American Indians, indentured servants, slaves, free blacks, Muslims, and later Asians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

>since defining what constitutes a "white" person is basically impossible to begin with
White = Indo-European, easy. For whatever reason you have no concerns identifying "black people" but you think "white people don't exist".

>then earn it.
I do, my personal actions won't change overall collective trends though, or affirmative action, wealth redistribution, immigration laws, etc.

>No war is totally accurately accounted
The way we see the past influences the present and the future. It's important and needs to be discussed rather than censored and taken for granted.

>Jews earned their positions of power and you're begging them to stop because you don't like it.
When they use it against our interests in our countries, and for exploitative purposes, it needs to be pointed out. For whatever reason, you don't like that. And they never earned that shit.

You're just the average anti-white retard.

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>>138632078
You have to be a special nutcase not to think this isn't controlled opposition. Just take a look at the sudden appearance of this "alt-right leader" for example.

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>>138675890

Civic nationalism doesn't work.

For the perfect example, look no further than America's own two parties.

Whites used to vote for Republicans or Democrats due to ideology. Now Republicans are the white party and Democrats are the nonwhite and Marxist self-hating white party. Anti-white shit is acceptable simply because of Jewish control of the media pushing it and whites being a smaller group than they used to and having less sociopolitical power to fight back against it. That's it, it mostly comes down to demographics.

Nonwhites will always vote for more gibs, more state power, more socialism, and will always vote for their own ethnic interests at the expense of whites.

Civic nationalism is what conservatives have been trying for the last 50+ years, and it hasn't accomplished diddly-shit, thing have only consistently gotten worse

Demographics are destiny. You don't need to be against nonwhites to acknowledge that white nations should be preserved for a white majority. "I don't see race" is an increasingly untenable position in a polarized world (which is what all multiracial nations eventually turn into). Nonwhites have voted against private property for decades (see welfare stats), liberty and free speech, and they won't stop just because you're nice to them, they will continue voting in their collective interests (for the left). You need to work with them, but bending over for everything is not a solution (like Republicans who tried to push amnesty to get a larger share of the Hispanic vote).

The only reason Quebec still isn't independent here is because migrants voted against sovereignty in our referendum. You can try to appeal to them as much as you want, but you will never change the larger trends.