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>willingly slaving your life away to make someone else a profit

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>willingly slaving your life away to make someone else a profit

Can a wage slave please explain themselves? How cucked must you be to allow someone else to profit off your own labour?

I don't understand how anyone can willingly subject themselves to that.
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The boss took the risk so the plebs don't have to. The boss also set up the framework and put in the work to build the company so plebs don't give a shit. Income pretty much guaranteed until they quit or get fired
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That's an adult thing Anon, you wouldn't understand.
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>>138085468
This is why I work with my father. Once he dies, I inherit his business worth over $3 million. Feels good man.
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>>138086194
Fuck australians. French people always bring the best bantz.
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>he sleeps 1/3 of his life for no reason
could a sleep slave please explain
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>>138085468
>willingly subjecting yourself to servitude
Fucking cucks.
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>>138086928
>but the economy my masters money keeps my madters money going!
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you niggas need to diversify your portfolio. kek just kiddin.
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Communism is just capitalism where you boss is the government instead of the company while your payed less.
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>>138086032
What risk?
The plebs will just be made to bail them out because they are "too big to fail"
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I'm soon gonna liquidate my mutual holdings.
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>>138085468
Tried working for myself, struggled to make ends meet.

The work do creates revenue of around £2m per year, but I wouldn't be able to do it without the contacts and tools my employer has provided.
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>>138087835
I dont give a shit about communism or capitalism i am defined by my being not an economic theory.
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>>138087835
This isn't a communist/capitalist argument. It's an anti-wage slave thread. Capitalism is fine as long as you're the one profiting off of your own labour. Otherwise you should probably kill yourself because you're literally slaving away to make someone else's life better than your own.
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>>138085468
>Being white
>Don't work
>Don't eat
>Don't have shelter

>Be black
>Don't work
>Government pays for everything
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>>138085468
I am a minimalist. I have gainful employment that require little effort, compared to my attempts @ being self employed.
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>>138088696
literally has nothing to do with my thread

fuck off wage-slave
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>>138088696
One of the reasons the economy needs to collapse.
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I work for the local government so the citizens pay me. Faggot.
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>>138085468
What is the Rothschild Federal Reserve central bank scheme

Hitler was right.
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>>138088957
You mean you serve under thw government to make your boss money.
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>>138088957
That's fine. Working for a public funded non-profit organisation or being self-employed is justifiable. Working for a for profit company is commit suicide tier.
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>>138085468
I work for USPS.
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>>138085468
I work in an office for a university, Monday through Friday, 9am-5pm. Feels good getting benefits and retirement, not to mention the $2,500 (after taxes) pay check. I feel blessed because at 31 years old these days, I feel I'm doing well compared to peers.
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>>138089409
I forgot to mention, I get paid monthly. So I make a little over $2,500 per month.
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>>138088360

So how would you propose that people profit off of their labor?
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>>138089384
Y..yes boss ill work harder for you.
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>>138085468
>>willingly slaving your life away to make someone else a profit
You profit too. That's how fair trade works, not "I do X work, he does X/2 work, and we split the difference"
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>>138085468
Everyone is in it for profit.

People that don't have anything to offer but time profit off their time.

Go start a business.
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>>138085468
>I'm a fat nerd with no experience why wont someone give me a company?

kys NEET
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>>138085468
They do it because they need to pay the bills.

It's not ideal, nobody enjoys it. It's just necessary.
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>>138085468
mommy and daddy wont be there for you forever, and forget gibs, youre white. any gibs you get today will be completely unavaliable to you in 3 years. mark my words.
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>>138089731
By banning wage slavery and everyone only has their individual worth and not the worth of another, wage slaves are an enemy to freedom.
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>>138090353
Wage slaves empower another and thus disempowers individuals.
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>>138089900
We are the free men.
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>>138090353

So, after you ban wage slavery how are you going to structure things? i mean a factory needs workers, a clinic nurses. And higher ups to direct them, should larger entitles be demolished and everything ran by small bushiness then?
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>>138090353
And pray tell, how are you supposed to run a business without employees?
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>>138085468
I didn't and instead opened up my own brothel and then later a feed and seed store.
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>>138091212
You dont, you provide your worth solely not the worth of anothet.
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>>138085468

I help design the electronics used in children's hearing aids.

You spend the mental and physical prime of your life shitposting on here and playing TF2.

All fun and games right now, maybe, but you're destined to be that lonely weird neighbourhood bachelor guy the local kids are wary of and that the local adults assume is either a pedo or a closet homo.
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>>138089731
Owning your own business/being self employed.
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>>138089986
>>138089945
>>138090015
t. wave-slaves
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Call it being lucky that I have a job in the first place as I don't have a GED.

Walmart pays me $14/hr, at 40 hoirs, but anything after is "volunteer time" as my bosses have unrealistic expectations, and nearly a third of my pay goes towards taxes and other deductions that doesn't go into any savings (I don't have any). It's how it is as I don't have anyone in life to rely on.

I work overnight and haven't seen the sunset in almost a decade because of this job. Hopefully I'll be born into wealth, so my time awake isn't compromised.
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>>138085468
Its no different than being born into traditional slavery. You arent given the tools to succeed from birth; and yet its somehow surprising that a large portion of those that are given the tools to succeed--do?

I wish my family had a house and cars and things and money; so that when they died id be like, 'oh gee ill just start this business i always wanted to do with the hundreds of thousands in just obvious inheritance'
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hierarchy works. many wage slaves are too dumb to deal with the complexities of owning a business and the social aspect.
>making widgets implies you are smart enough to direct and control other people on how to make widgets.
>you see Jamal if I owned this plantation we'd all be riich and sheeit, the plantation owner dont kno nuffin.
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>>138091722
I would honestly rather kill myself than do that, how do you get by?
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.t NEETsoc waiting for his revolution so he can be handed a job he has zero qualifications for
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>>138091964
Wage slaves should be banned.
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>>138091964

>No brotha ya see dat if everyone owned dere ownz little businesses an shit no brotha gottz to answa to da man!
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>>138092411
You would get no servicebor power out of me even if you showed up with 50 trillion paper.

Paper will grant you no power over people.

Our services beling to us our labor belobgs to us our trades belong to us.
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>>138088011
is that how you think it works ?
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>>138092411
>>138091964
>yes master thank you for my $10 an hour, i hope you enjoy your 20th holiday to Barbados this year
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>>138085468

Literally getting paid to daydream all day

lad pls


>mfw my paycheck is 4 times yours
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>>138091979
Not everyone could do this as it gets monotonous. I'm not smart for anything else, so I'll probably be doing this I until my casket closes.

Thank god I never had any dreams growing up as I needed up homeless before HS ended until the end of my "best years" and had to shell out thousands of dollars of my perpetually homeless parents even after I got on my feet. This shit went on until I was nearly 30.
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>>138092880
We labor to build our tribes settlements and communities, we do not labor for someones personal enrichment.
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>>138092151
>ya dawg lets tax ourselves 35% for being a biznass plus tax our usual wages for contracting our shit out. we git dat green. we iz all self employ now
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>>138093191

Not everyone can own their own business retard, almost everything requires workers, who are payed in wages.
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>>138093235
Pic related happens to slavers.
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>>138093811
Freemen are the strongest.
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>>138089064
I'm a socialist only for the national benefit.
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>>138093191
>can work in factory starting out at more than $10hr
>can work as bartender for more than $10hr
>can do landscaping work for more than $10hr
at $12/hr and up is when work ethic is needed.
over $18/hr is when skills start
I work in the winter at a place(fabricating/laborer) who will start anyone at 15/hr provided you work. turnover is 100% because of so many worthless fucks.
Every year I come back and all the low rung people are new.
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>>138085468
Well that is what marijuana is for. You get baked, do your job automaticaly, don't have to deal with law or any of that shit, regular hours, you go home and have half a day so you don't have to think about work at all. You live a happy live...


...untill you get taxed.
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>>138094131
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>>138093061
You think it doesn't work that way?
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>>138085468
I don't have selling skills
I have technical skills.
The company sells for me, I do the work don't know how to do.
Its mutual benefit.
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>>138085468
I have no ambition. I'm willing to be an unenthusiastic cog in a machine (in which I have no stake and could care less what it produces) to sustain my mediocre lifestyle and feed my vices.

I'm mid twenties, over twenty stone. I've had sex, mastered the art of masturbation, and have a good enough computer for the games I want to play. I will never have a great love (probably wont even have normal love), have my name in the history books or do anything that hasnt already been done by thousands before me years before I was born. I'm not capable of solving any problems or lucky enough to have a talent. I will never crush my enemies, or hear the lamentation of their women.

I know myself too well to pretend otherwise.
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>>138085468
Yeah but is it any better being a leech like yourself?
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>>138085468

Sure, i'll humor you.
I was self employed for 8 years; I made good money, but worked 100 hour weeks, had no time for my wife, and towards the end, our child. Keeping my business successful took a great deal of investment, both in time and effort. It was rewarding.

After the kid was born, I re-assessed my needs and wants, and now I work for 38$/hr at 40 hours a week and all the bills are covered.

Why not? I now have inordinate sums of time to spend with my family, I am able to pursue my hobbies and dreams, and I work remotely from my home in Montana on 11 acres of decent land.

Where's the 'wage slave cuck' bullshit fit in?
No idea to be honest, as I think it's all about your needs and wants and what fits your goals.
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>>138086240
do you ever wonder who you really would have become without those golden handcuffs?
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>>138086240
All that work you didn't do
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>>138086032
This is ture, I saw my boss working, he is doing pretty good job managing the company. He probably can be an efficient manager in another economic system. Yet he is not the problem, the ones who lend him money are.
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>>138085468
Under national socialism, unearned income beyond basic living pay would go toward the state. Maybe bestgov is for you.
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>>138095003
the "wage slave cuck" bullshit fits in when youre wife inevitably fucks around on you despite your doing all that, it's ok we'll be here for you when it happens
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>>138094566
This is a world of man.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cHuSktaQRuE
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>>138093763
Yes, and working is for sad losers. You'd be better off committing suicide than being a wave-slave.

What you just said literally has zero relevance to this thread.
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>>138095003
>40 hours a week goes into making SOMEONE ELSE money
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>>138095805

>Looking down on the people who keep our society's functioning

>Probably still lives with mommy
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>>138094681
No. Unless you have an ownership stake in the company and you're making money off of their sales, it's not mutual benefit.
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>>138096213
>wah i work at wallmart 48 hours a week and your opinions hurt my feeling

Okay.
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>>138086240
All that achievement you didn't achieve, what you are saying is that you are a wage slave but daddy is the one who did all the hard work and he is the boss so that one day you can have allof it handed to you on a silver platter, you will then brag about owning your own business, look down upon the unemployed, judging them, hating them, "look at me" you will cry "look how successful I am", "bow down to me you worthless peasants".
But all those around you will know the truth, inside they will hate you, they have no respect for you, "he had it all handed to him, like a spoilt child given the crown to the throne, he didn't create it" they will say.
But in the end it doesn't even matter, the liberals are destroying your country.
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>>138095805
>>138096201
You even try out nutmeg for recreational purposes? Given that ID and all...
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>>138088124
Basically this...my labor is so specialized, it's hard to make a living on it by myself.
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>>138085468
>>willingly slaving your life away to make someone else a profit
They paid me enough to buy this flat m8. I've got a decent computer rig, a folding bike and a bunch of legal music making software to keep myslef amused. I eat enough ice cream to become fat, and can just afford to smoke cigarettes until they tax the shit out of 'em even more. Fit as fuck college girls rent their pussies for £80 per half hour around here, it's like being a rich good looking dude for a while, but with none of the long term depreciation.

It's not like the life tv told me I'd have, or school told me I'd have, or prettty much any one of those other well meaning but ultimately hopeless liars told me I'd have, but it's not bad either. If I was unemployed all those years, I'd have, what, £30 free money in my pocket each week and the desire to kill myself? That doesn't sound like freedom.
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>>138096428
People which have everything handed to them like that are bums, plane and simple. Look at the Walmart family - fucking bums who have supported the rise of Red China in pursuit of globalism and greed by destroying American industry.
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>>138095522
that's unrelated as fuck anon.
>>138095003
Wage slave cuck doesn't apply to people working for good money on good terms.

It's more a reference to the people working for low wages in shitty employment. Like $38 an hours is not high, but it's not low either, for a by the hour job that's pretty comfy.

But most people in America do not work for $38 an hour they work for $8 to $20 an hour. The low end of which is unlivable unless your working a lot of hours, and most of them are not, THey're working part time and are on government gibs of some sort.

When people talk wage slavery they're talking about people who work basically to pay bills, rent, buy food and keep working. People whose entire existence is servitude to someone elses profit while they make none of that profit themselves, they stay trapped in what amounts to a subsistence level of employment, without even the personal liberty that subsistence farmer get. Cube slaves and Gas station workers and fast food workers all still have to fit into normal society and conform and obey. Its literally easier and more profitable to be a NEET, you get more money and more by doing nothing crying poverty and maybe even claiming a disability than you do by working honestly at the low end.

Low end employment is such a raw deal that it is literally more sensible to be a leech provided you can find a host. I personally qualifiy for all sorts of free shit, because I am unemployed, income 0, and am argueably disabled. I don't collect anything, because I dislike the the idea, and my(not wealthy) family is willing to support as long as I live on the cheap, which I do aggressively. But for example, If I were to get a shitty job, minimum wage with no benefits, I would lose qualification for a very very complete Health insurance program that I qualify for as an Unemployed NEET.
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>>138085468
Shut up mmeg
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>>138095560
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn45LNYfsio
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>>138085468
You're right.

If only whites stopped working the American government would collapse.

We could then reform as a white ethnostate!
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>>138097317
Disability is pretty attractive. I've been living off tens of thousands in student aid grants/now loans and have some issues that could qualify for disabled status. However, the fact that disability discharges student debt keeps me from applying for it now, as it could fuck up my pro student status.

I'm with a year of having a CS degree, but the fact that you are still at the mercy of some greedy fuck AND HR SJW insanity to earn anything honestly is bullshit. You almost need national socialist style parochialism to look out for the little guy and guarantee honest income for honest work with no slavery.
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>>138085468
I make more than enough to support my family. I don't feel the need for more, as that would be only in the pursuit of more material gains I don't need.

Get fucked, commie.
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>>138088011
There's a big difference between how hard 'a boss' works in their own small business versus walmart and bank of america. Virtually no small business is 'too big to fail'.
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>>138085468
I work in a steel factory, I make about 55-60k€/year doing a job that I was hired to do.
I don't understand your question.
Are you saying there is a way to earn more without investment or are you just a clueless communist?
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>>138085468
>making a NEET thread without me
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>>138091353
You will be that guy even with a job, If you are single and living alone, you are that guy. Fuck neighbors anyways.
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>>138099759
Finlsnd is unionized.
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>>138096201
>168 hours a week goes into masturbating to SOMEONE ELSE'S dick
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>>138089544
Do got in live in a cuck shed too? How poor are you
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>>138091722
You sad miserable fuck. Do you at least Do drugs?
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>>138085468

I see.

So in your world there would be absolutely ZERO companies? Because being any sort of employee would be wage slavery?

How the fuck would anything get done? I mean any people working together under some sort of structure would be wage slavery.

How would you have anything of value bring produced?
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>>138091352
>>138091404
How do you propose factories and big companies manage themselves
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>>138100398
That's why that cuck is so clueless. Being in a fucking union barely qualifies as real word "work", with everything from six figure longshoremen who literally inherit jobs to overpaid public sector trash who get huge retirements and health on the taxpayer dime.
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>>138102988
You are asking question they don't have answers for
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>>138098904
The higher ups thank you for your contribution to making their lives easier.
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>>138096313
He literally is making money off their sales, how do you think wages get paid?
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>>138085468
The only reason I have a job is to have money to burn. Mostly on bills.
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>>138104062

That sentence sounds very Asian.

Seriously. It's missing certain English nuances that Asians tend to forget.

Read it out loud slowly.

Reveal yourself chink!
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>>138085468
you don't have to slave away, just be better than that, and bam, problem solved.
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Meanwhile, Marissa Mayer was paid tens of millions of dollars to literally destroy Yahoo as a result of sucking the right dicks when Google started. She literally has a negative, destructive liability cost in the billions, yet look at the fucking reward when some people are slaving for amounts that wouldn't pay her fucking dry cleaning bill.
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>>138093191
get good then cunt
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>>138085468
I need it to finance crypto. Just need to 30x my stack now..
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>>138085468
lol. whats wrong whitey.
you upset you have to pay for my 12 mullatos
when you can't even find a job to afford your own?

hahaha

whitey.
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>>138086194
2pbp
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>>138085468
spoken like a true leech. you just want the government gibs so you can do your retarded art that no one wants or play a ukulele poorly. if you've ever been a boss, you know its hard work and you earn the money cause of all the responsibility / risk.... you wouldnt know this cause you're a nothing master.
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>>138105479
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. See >>138104755
for boss behavior.
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>>138105823
>Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
You're clearly underaged and have no idea how business and the world of business works judging by that tumblr-esque reply

And no, your stupid anecdotal case does not represent or accurately describe what being a boss is like
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Also for those "run your own business' types. Keep in mine self employment tax will fuck you over HARD if you don't do something like set up an S-corp, the govt gets their money either way if you make anything resembling a profit. You can often times make alot more money working for someone else if you can get over the 'hur dur making someone else money' attitude. Unless you deal drugs or do some other type of unrecorded/illegal income work you will never avoid making someone else, the government, and welfare niggers money. Even unemployment and disability money is taxed if you make enough elsewhere.
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ITT: normies btfo
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>>138106310
Yes, yes it does represent reality. Idiot board and shareholders hired Marissa for the SJW feelz and she proceeded to destroy a company for countless millions of dollars. That's a real world example of the waste inherent is such an idiot system, and there are many other millionaire failures like her. CEO pay, as such, is often inversely related to job performance, unlike the poor slaves they crack the whip on and demand perfection of.
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>>138085468
Better than being a faggot NEET. It's called contributing to the market that you live off of. If you want to live in a cabin in the woods or some shit, go right ahead. Just make sure good old Uncle Sam gets his cut. A better question is how much of a faggot can you be to live off the labor of others and not provide your own contributions?
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>tfw I outsourced my own job to a programmer in Venezuela
>give him 20% of my pay and look over and tweak all of his work
>spend 90% of my work on 4chan, watching movies and playing video games like I am right now

I've beat the system boys.
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>>138088696
That's pretty ignorant considering how many fucking lazy white people are welfare leeches down here in the south.
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>>138107500
>Just make sure good old Uncle Sam gets his cut
Why? Fuck supporting dindu leaches and useless government bureaucrats with income tax. Work under the table and don't pay those fucks a dime - there is an entire underground economy that does this.
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>>138103599
I'm not proposing an alternate system, I'm just saying if you're a wage-slave you should consider suicide.
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>>138085468
>willingly
There's that word. I do not willingly hand over the lions share of what I make to some greedy cunt. But taxes are taxes and gibs are gibs. And I have yet to find a way to beat that system of greed.
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Haven't worked in over 8yrs and to be honest I've never done 'an honest days work' ever.

There's a million ways to live comfortably without giving your short and precious life away.
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You're making a profit off your own damn labor too unless you're too stupid to manage money or find someone decent to sell your labor to.
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>>138107156
>This company hired a retard that did retarded things
>Thus, all companies work the same, all bosses are the same. I know this to be true despite only knowing of this one case, and having never worked in a real not-minimum-wage job in my life
While we can agree huge-company CEO is overblown at times this is not the case for all companies, and i invite you to go speak with these "slaves" as you call them and inquire as to how much actual work they do. Having been in their shoes for many years i can tell you most people just go around doing the minimum amount of effort, if that. Still, companies stay afloat because a good manager can properly move produced capital around, however little it may be. I can tell you this because i climbed the corporate ladder easily by actually putting effort into my work.

>>138108233
So you're just a fool who knows nothing and criticizes for the sake of it. Got it.
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>>138085468
If everyone started their own business, everyone would be in a business of one. Then they would contract with other businesses and form conglomerates. There would be a hierarchy. Whaddayaknow its a corporation. You have the option of understanding this and understanding the niche positions of a complex society and appreciate that other people fill those roles that you don't have to, many of which are simply young/unskilled seeking to gain skill and experience. Or you can be a tremendous faggot. Would you trust some 17 year old fuck with your finances? He's obviously a cuck for having to go out and prove that he's worth peoples' money and trust.
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>>138107729
that's just whites beating the niggers at their own game. if a third of your check goes to nigs on welfare and you bust your ass to do that, why wouldn't you just become a nigger yourself?
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>>138108222
I meant for the land, and I wasn't saying I agreed with it. I fucking abhor the idea that I have to pay rent for land that I own. Also, checked them trips.

>>138085468 (OP)
nutmeg
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>>138085468
I go to work
Hammer on a keyboard
Reboot some shit
hammer on keyboard
check /pol/
tell user to reboot there shit
get paycheck
paycheck is spent
be sad about it
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i have an excellent degree from one of the best unis in the world. i world a low level job then progress.

tl;dr just because op is useless doesnt mean everyone is
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>>138109089
>i world
*work
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>>138085468
Do you realize how fucking hard it is too start your own business? especially in this fucking country
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>>138085468
I work because I need money to live.
As I'm not a lazy cunt that leaches off society a job is the best way to get an income.
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>>138085468
>3 12 hour shifts every other week, 4 12 hour shifts on long weeks
>10 acres of land
>big house
>4 dogs
>wife
>garden
>Brand spanking new computer.
>Jobs most automate with scripts that only I really understand.
>Wife's invested in high risk
>I'm in invested in low risk
>Utilities are paid for entirely with dividends of previous investments
>No student loan debt because I went to community college.


The systems not rigged, it works and how it works is right in front of you. People think jews, the NWO, and the Fed are controlling them because it's easier to blame a boogeyman than to actually understand how to live profitably and work smart not hard.
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>>138108557
t. wage slave cuck that slaves away to make his bosses life better
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>>138111027
t. foolish kid mad that suceeding in life requires effort
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>>138085468
>>willingly slaving your life away to make someone else a profit
Your boss assumes all the liability, he handles the budget, he makes the sales.

In other words, he's dealing with the human side of the equation, which is the more difficult side. More difficult labor = better paying

All you had to do was sit there at your station doing the same three or four motions over and over again and he'll pay you for it. Do you really think that digging a ditch is comparable in worth to convincing the bank to lend you some money, or to close the sale with a particularly difficult client?

With that being said, there's a pretty big difference between a guy who owns a midwestern paper manufacturing plant and works hard to maintain profitability, and a billionaire who sits around counting all the money he inherited and gets a sweet severance package when his company literally pays him to fuck off and stop running their corporation into the ground.
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>>138085468
I work so I can make a profit, stupid nigger. I value my time and labor less than the dollars I trade it for.
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>>138111266
>thinks being a wage slave is succeeding in life
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>>138112510
>>138111027
You're really not good at baiting wagies, anon. I'm sorry.
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>>138112510
>thinks working is only wage slaving
Wage slaving is the first step, one of which many, like you, are unfortunately too useless and/or stupid to climb up from
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>>138085468
i work commission and split 50/50 while paying for no building costs, tool costs, energy, gas, water, pads, or parts. I also get a free furnished apartment with cable and internet
I am fine with this arrangement
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>>138086240
Same here. I get a seafood business in the heart of Maryland. Only I have to slave away in the hot steam room another 20 years or so making 15 an hour
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>>138109496
>>3 12 hour shifts every other week, 4 12 hour shifts on long weeks
>>10 acres of land
>>big house
>>4 dogs
>>wife
>>garden
>>Brand spanking new computer.
>>Jobs most automate with scripts that only I really understand.
>>Wife's invested in high risk
>>I'm in invested in low risk
>>Utilities are paid for entirely with dividends of previous investments
>>No student loan debt because I went to community college.
what will any of that matter in 1000 years, Anon? Will history tell of the average working Joe's life?
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>>138112797
not him, but...
>Wage slaving is the first step, one of which many, like you, are unfortunately too useless and/or stupid to climb up from
that's a huge percent of the population. If we don't give them a large enough share of the pie, they join up with Communist or Fascist movements to overthrow you, and then society needs to go through a period of reorganizing as the cream has to rise back up to the top
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>>138108834
>that's just whites beating the niggers at their own game.
Amazing. Even if the whites are showing behaviour that you already put down, they are just "beating the niggers at their own game." You are either a gold medal olympic mental gymnast or you lack any theory of mind.
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>>138113573
>that's a huge percent of the population. If we don't give them a large enough share of the pie, they join up with Communist or Fascist movements to overthrow you, and then society needs to go through a period of reorganizing as the cream has to rise back up to the top

Indeed, the way it works right now could be improved to give people more opportunities without them crippling themselves with debt, though that's more of a proper business administration issue than anything else

Most people can't be business owners because it's too risky, or they legitimately have no idea how to actually manage a business
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>>138096428

>But in the end it doesn't even matter

hehe
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>>138093224
Anon, do yourself a favor, you got spare time I assume as you are on 4chan. A GED isn't too hard to get and you could probably get it online so it wouldn't mess with your job. It might do you some good just incase your job falls through. Tests are about 30 bucks an attempt where I live (north chicago) Even if you really don't wanna do it, just think on it ok? You have options man.
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You can work for someone else and save to start your own business, it doesn't have to be one or the other.
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>>138114133
>Indeed, the way it works right now could be improved to give people more opportunities without them crippling themselves with debt, though that's more of a proper business administration issue than anything else
Agreed, though I would argue that it is more of a legislative issue, because there are macro-issues that individual business owners have no control over, and a market is only as strong as the laws which define it.

>Most people can't be business owners because it's too risky, or they legitimately have no idea how to actually manage a business
In my experience it takes a special kind of hustler to be a business owner. You have to be that asshole who's going to chase down every last lead he manages to sniff out, the kind who always has three or four more in the pipe at any given time, and who can turn on the "happy salesman face" even if it's the end of the day on a friday and it's a client he hates.

Many people don't have those kind of skills, they just want to create. Even more don't even have that much drive, they just want comfort
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>>138115615
>Many people don't have those kind of skills, they just want to create. Even more don't even have that much drive, they just want comfort
These people are content with having their skills employed by somebody else and getting a share of their work, unfortunately, their lack of drive and ambition breeds keyboard warriors like >>138112510 with too many opinions and too little knowledge
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>>138108941
>I meant for the land, and I wasn't saying I agreed with it.
Property tax is the worst, I agree. Nothing like paying rent on something you supposedly own - I have a house and tax time is like flushing money down the toilet, but you are literally held at gunpoint by the government to pay for union teachers and other gibs.
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>>138085468
Enlighten us OP: how do you get money?
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>>138112797
>wave slaving is the first step

This is what wage slaves ~ACTUALLY~ believe. Holy shit.

Enjoy slaving your life to make others profit.
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>>138089064
Does the eye In that picture represent something higher than the Crown Council? Is it the demons that feed off our misery?
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>>138116672
Inheritance.
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>>138085468
Yeah I'll go start my own hospital.
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>>138117041
Being btfo so hard in your own thread's gotta be hard, huh kiddo
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>>138117473
>i-if I keep working in this factory, maybe one day I'll own the factory...
>h-ha, btfo!!!
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>>138116182
>These people are content with having their skills employed by somebody else and getting a share of their work, unfortunately, their lack of drive and ambition breeds keyboard warriors like >>138112510 with too many opinions and too little knowledge

I don't think it's necessarily a lack of drive, I think that the pain and discontent that working people are feeling is real, I just think that when we break a complex subject down into simple black and whites like "Free market capitalism vs Marxism-Leninism" we draw arbitrary lines in the sand and people ally themselves according to political faction, and this can blind them to the subtle nuances of a problem and the difficulty in finding a solution
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>>138117735
The reason why your logic is retarded and flawed has been exposed too many times in this very thread and i will not waste my time repeating it again
But feel free to keep parroting ebin r9k memes around, kid, i have more important things to do
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They paid for the computer and expensive software, and they pay for the utilities, comfy chair, air con, nice desk and free coffee.

Literally all I bring is my brain and hands and I make enough money to do whatever I want. Sure I make money for them too, but it's a symbiotic relationship.

Setting up my own business would be suicidal, massive competitors would undercut me until I was bankrupt because they can take the hit. The setup costs would be astronomical for my career, setting up a business in 2017 is not the same as setting up in 1975 when my boss set up.

But yeah, being a wagie is truly suffering, owning my own house and buying all the cool shit I want.
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>>138118100
Okay wagie, enjoy throwing your life away to earn your masters more money.
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>>138118196
Just know your bosses are very thankful for your efforts at making them richer.
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>>138118353
>>138118273
>>138117041
Why is your only talking point making someone else profit when the way bigger issue is the government taking your money and using it to harm you, anon?
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>>138118353

Good. Im happy at their prebuilt framework that has allowed me to become rich.

Will I be ome as rich as them? Probably not, they have 30yrs on me in decades where life was incredibly easy. But will I be richer than you? Most definitely.

Enjoy your freedom.
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Because I'm lazy. I do pretty easy work, get paid more than the median household income in the US, am young. Running your own business is fucking hard as hell, and then you have to deal with strangers. Place also gives 20+ days of paid time off, and like 13 public holidays. Most days I work less than 8 hours.
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