Has 4chan become the most important western platform of

yeah but that happened a long time ago

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Yes but it doesn't allow doxxing anymore so we can't go after our enemies anymore. We are toothless.

um, yes, right? what else is there?

>>138079918
yes and they'll shut it down in the next few days.

>>138080416
>4chan shutting down
not until gookmoot milks this site dry

>>138080630
>wishful thinking

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>>138079918
yes, think about it for a second, this is how bad things have become

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>>138079918
its almost all that remains. i remember being excited to find reddit when i quit facebook... anonymous posting whew hew... then i was banned and censored to shit within days, for trivial contrary opinions and commentary...
4chan had always been in my life im a /b/ old fag pre moot dox. i didnt appreciate the freedom of speech before because id never realized censorship through old bbs, then myspace and irc, but lordy do i now.
it saddens me theres a generation of kids who will never know a free internet, only a world of google and facebook controlled speech.
the 4th ammendment has been completely obliterated. everything exposed. no expectation of privacy left.

>>138080416
I feel like the people here would spread through the internet like a swarm of locusts if that happened and it would backfire, and I think this would be expected. This place effectively acts as containment.

>>138079918
It's been our glorious bastion of free speech for years m8

>>138079918
No! We're fucking full! gtfo!

>>138081045

You summed it up nicely. From someone who is just about 34 years old I never thought speech would be censored on the internet. It makes sense that it can be due to the businesses/websites being private corporations so it is constitutional.

It's nice that /pol/ and 4chan is a thing. It's nice a few other websites let you speak your mind. It's a shame the government doesn't host free talk web forums that the courts rule are under the protection of free speech and completely anonymous with archiving not only illegal but a felony.

>>138080086

8/pol/ does

>>138079918
Yes, but you can still get banned, and you should never take everything posted as serious.

But it's pretty damn close to being the last place of expressing any thought.

>>138081434
shut the fuck up

>>138080086
back in the day we used IRC

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>>138079918
For how long ?

>>138081434
>t.faggot

On Krautchan you are even allowed to post child softcore porn.
Tahst real freedim.

>>138081252
the bots will adapt and make sure no voices will be heard.

>>138081252
I think they are stupid enough do it or expect this to just blow over relatively quickly, I think they underestimate that many users would go fucking nuts over the sudden shitposting withdrawal, I know I would and I would make it my lives mission to ruin the fags responsible for it.

>>138081252
well definitely shutting down 4chan isnt the way to stop its users. Any forum operator with any experience knows that closing a board invigorates its users and forces them to spread out.

But I don't give (((them))) enough credit to know this.

>>138079918
>Has 4chan become the most important western platform of free speech today?

Nice meme. This place is a glorified holocaust denial and neo-nazi forum. Don't pretend to be champions of free speech. You're just a bunch of useless assholes who are broken at their core.

>>138079918
No.

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>>138081944

wow way too prove their point.

>>138080086
>Yes but it doesn't allow doxxing anymore so we can't go after our enemies anymore. We are toothless.

If you faggots could actually put some money together I would be willing to get a team if faggots to build us a "secret club"

>>138081693
>Ban Evasion

That means you got banned before. How about you post what you got banned for first?

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>>138081407
right?? as a youth id buck up to mods and flood channels because muh rebel yell.
youre suggestion of a freespeech zone online is brilliant and going to become a commodity in the near future. i want my expectation of privacy returned to me.
i used to consider toolband.com/chat the last freespace, but the bands label recently canked it.
sad loss.

>>138079918
well considering the events of the last week, it unironically has.

>>138081693
>evades a ban
>shocked he gets banned again
this is why you are called a liar: you objectively +are_ a treacherous, deceit-filled liar.

>>138081944
How many Jews died in the Holocaust?

>>138082036
>wow way too prove their point.

What point did I just prove? That being a neo-nazi and holocaust denier somehow makes you a champion of free speech?

>>138080086
Still usually takes half an hour or more to get deleted so it doesn't make much difference.

>>138081944
says the guy exercising his right to free speech

>>138082112
He posts BBC threads. Don't let his hurr durr muh free speech derp mean anything. he'll be back like they all come back in 5 minutes.
He's a cunt, no matter how many proxies he uses..his shit smells from a mile away

>>138081693
that pic is of someone being banned for ban evading.
I am 100% not convinced there is a rightwing bias in the /pol/ mods. Absolutely ridiculous. Not with half the things I've seen on this board and 4chan at large.

And the anemia of your evidence makes me even more suspicious of you.

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>>138081693
haha... oh wow...

>>138082157
>toolband.com/chat
tool are such weirdos, i love it

>>138082364
it makes you evidence of free speech. keep in mind there are countries in europe where you go to prison for expressing such beliefs.

>>138081434
>let me tell reddit and normie cancer about 8/pol/
>I'm sure this will end well

>>138082364
so are you about to get banned now? We going to see the post you get banned for?

>>138082638
>muh seekrit club
fuck dubllechan

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>>138082475
yeh they hosted an old java chat since day one, the gray box, id kept an old machine that ran java 4. something just for it because any update past that wouldnt allow chat to run. it was a troll haven but now gone after 2 decades of fun.

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cant wait till the happening redditer migrants leave or succumb to the red pill

If it gets closed we will just move to infinite-chan

>>138082793
sad! I've just recently begun getting into Tool. I've always sort of enjoyed them but only recently begun to appreciate.

>>138082471
oh is that what all these threads have been?

antifa is trying to lurk but are so assblasted by the trolling that they cant help but reply? This is great news.
This one guy's even bringing up holocaust denial. as if that isn't a one way ticket to redpillsville on this site

>>138079918
won't someone tell me what this is from?

>>138082793
Is EFnet still any good these days? I have to swear off IRC because it's addictive, but that always had the best hands-off Wild West feel to it of the major public networks.

>>138082664

So the only people that can be champions of free speech are the people that are on the lunatic fringes of society?

Preaching that globalism and multiculturalism is a jewish conspiracy and denying the holocaust while actively seeking out the death of blacks, jews and homosexuals puts you on par with the ACLU? Fuck off retard.

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>>138079918
Indeed. Especially when it comes to supporting racemixing propaganda Jews.

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>>138082999
who here is actively seeking murder but the alt left terrorist nufags?

>>138082999
Now listen you little...

(USER WAS BANED FOR THIS POST)

>>138082999
>So the only people that can be champions of free speech are the people that are on the lunatic fringes of society?
dude i'm really sorry, and I dont like it either but...

YES! Unfortunately yes that's exactly the case. Only lunatics will stand up for free speech to the end. Because any reasonable person would cut their losses and conform at SOME point.

But the weakness of free speech is that a single crack in its totality becomes to pilot hole for any jack hammers that want to take the whole thing down.

>>138082999
That fact that you are on here posting sentiment that are unpopular among those people says quite a bit about speech here being free. On reddit swimming upstream last for the whole 10 seconds until a mod bans you. Even less on Tumblr or Twitter or FB. The competition of ideas is a very important thing to embrace. It's not always pretty or agreeable but the best idea tends to come out on top.

>>138082999
people go to prison for expressing these views in europe.

>>138083248
>Nazi's: "BLOOD AND SOIL!" "round up all the niggers, jews and fags and kick em out!"

>Blacks/gays/jews/white allies: "Get out of my city you pieces of shit!"

>Nazis:"We're the non-violent ones! REEEEEE!!!!!"

You people are sick in the head.

we still cant get cp
4chan is on the surface, if u want to see a real freedom of speech u have to dig deeper

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>>138083146
disgusting.

>>138083500
if these people restrained themselves merely to saying nasty words all the lives ended or harmed by this past 2 year's political violence would be fine right now.

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>>138081944
maybe there's a reason?

>>138083504
i saw a screen shot from a "0 morality" fetish board and it really bummed me out.

>>138082999
so, jews are say 2% of pop. but make up
40%+ of decision-makers in hollywood, media, wallstreet, silicon valley, etc. You dont find that strange?

>>138079918
pol is the last bastion of free speech

>>138083791
no goyim. It's only weird when white men are dis-proportionally favored!

>>138082949
Highschool DxD

Pathetic, isn't it? Liberals have crawled so far up their asses that they've made 4chan important.

>>138083146
>being such a crybaby that you made this webm

Top kek

>>138081434
>ledditchan
pure cancer

>>138083146
Du löscht dieses video jetzt sofort.

>>138083504

Except fucking TOR won't allow the daily stormer. The darknet is no longer safe for freedom of speech.

>>138083686
If nazism was an ideology that wasn't centered around stripping minorities of their rights and actively discriminating against them then the left wouldn't be as violent. These groups that nazi's and white nationalists seem to hate are fighting for their livelihoods and their right to live in peace.

ha ha ha

>>138079918
There is literally nowhere else on the internet where you can speak your mind except other irrelevant chans.

>>138080086
just visit the other 4chan for the doxxing the one that starts with an 8 and not a 4

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>>138084097
I thought we were talking about the jews and the misguided nazi sentiments ITT

>>138084097
you went from condemning violence to justifying it within a few posts.

>>138083961
in the early 2000's it was a pretty popular meme to over estimate the cultural importance and influence of niche internet communities.

And now we're entering that world.

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>>138084451
that's cognitive dissonance for you

>>138084451

Nazi: "If we become a big enough voting block we are going to deport every single last nigger, jew and fag we can get our hands on!"

Normal People: "You're fucking disgusting and you need to get out of my city with your hate"

Nazi: "But we're just using words and tiki torches! You're the bad guys here!"

If you can't see that the people that are fighting against nazi's are doing so to protect themselves and their families then you're hopelessly retarded.

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>>138083500
>You people are sick in the head.
at least we dont pretend not to be xD

again, who here is actively planning or carrying out murder?
on another note, how much ww2 history are you familiar with? are you just going off of cnns breakdown of contructed events that arent pol? truly curious now.

>>138084796
so violence is okay when it's against people you disagree with?

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>>138084796
>Nazi v normal people
Funny how you ignore all my points and go straight to made up arguments in your head

>>138084896
>so violence is okay when it's against people you disagree with?

You're deliberately trying to make it seem like opposing the rise of nazism is akin to having a political disagreement. Nazism is not a valid political ideology you idiot. It's a ideology that's based on the murder and displacement of "undesirables" by stripping them of their rights. You want blacks, jews and homosexuals to just sit and idly watch as people march through their cities threatening their lives?

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>>138084896
dont try to reason with xer. xer logic is based on emotion.

>>138084097
dude come on. Could you do me a favor and really take a step back from this? None of the alt-right guys, say any of that shit. Richard Spencer is a lip service conservative who just wants government hand outs and thinks if there were no blacks there'd be more money for him. Forget about internet trolls and look at the actual chad normies who were at charlotsville. These guys publicly support high taxes on the wealthy, universal health care, universal basic income, high minimum wages. They're democrats dude. They're racist democrats. And the reason why they're racist democrats is because racists have always been leftists. The KKK, Jim Crow, the Confederate leaders, Orval Faubus (the governor who used the national guard to stop a public school from desegregating.

All democrats.

>>138079918
Not for long. The communists brag openly about how many people they keep getting into the janitor program. They own you.

>>138080416
it will never shut down there are too many groups that use this place, 4chan exists for a reason

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>>138085313
keep ignoring the facts, faggot. even in your own made up arguments, you have the "normal people" threatening to kick the other side out of the city. Both sides are acting retarded.

>>138084796
>big enough voting block we are going to deport every single last nigger
heads up
this is unconstitutional. So no. you can't just vote in a law to deport american citizens based on race.

>>138085313
yes, when people are peacefully expressing their views, regardless of what the views are, they are federally protected by the first amendment in the constitution. these are among the core principles america was founded on.

by your exact logic, I am justified to go attack somebody for verbally expressing their hatred towards whites.

>>138080416
>shut it down
Oy vey!

>>138085395
>one of the alt-right guys, say any of that shit
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGHXDZ5GIxo

Yes, they do. White nationalists and neo-nazis have such a massive overlap that it's impossible to distinguish them. They actively want to bring back segregation and pull minorities out of their homes and send them elsewhere for their "ethnostates".

>>138085313
but in a very actionable way, you are having a political disagreement. And it is your contention that this disagreement justifies your use of force and unanimous public support.

And that's exactly what the real nazis did.

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>>138085790

>>138085790
>impossible to distinguish them
be honest with me.
At the outset, how hard were you really trying to find the distinction?

>>138084095
what? they allow them, they just say it's shit. They can't even ban them anyway

>>138082638
>implying that no one knows about 8 chins
oh wow

>>138079918
you can say pretty much what you want on Breitbart.

but you cant start threads or anything.

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>>138085790
and niggers want whites gone. are they going to act on that desire? id say more blacks so than whites and i bet anons have enough proof of that.
go be a fag somewhere else

>>138083958
>xD
Fuck off

>>138085848
>but in a very actionable way, you are having a political disagreement. And it is your contention that this disagreement justifies your use of force and unanimous public support.

I don't understand how you can claim that a march of people shouting neo-nazi slogans with Tiki torches, that includes people like David Duke, is not a threat to minorities?

Neo-Nazism is inherently a political ideology of violence. Any adherents to that ideology are therefore infringing on the rights of minorities. Just because they aren't throwing punches doesn't mean that they don't wish to take away the rights of millions of non-whites in America and infringe upon their safety. Is violence wrong? Yes. But if someone actively threatens your life and the safety of your family then don't be surprised when violence breaks out.

>>138085628
Not quite. The first amendment says that Congress shall make now law about it, not that other governments or private institutions can't put up their own rules. It's generally interpreted as having somewhat of a wider meaning than that as being an shared observance of the value of freedom of expression (including religious expression) but that's not really what it's about.

It's a negative right meant to restrict the overreach of federal power, not a positive one that requires the federal government to stick its cock in your face.

>>138084480
Life has taught me that niche internet communities are ALWAYS culturally influential. Perhaps you too will eventually spend enough time online to learn the same lesson.

>>138080416
Wouldn't it have to be the Japanese government shutting it down, though? If not that then each other country would have to individually block it Chinese style.

>>138085790
fun fact: Did you know integration was forced on both blacks and whites? no one wanted it. no one wants it still.

>>138086413
OK I see your point. Nazis are inherently violent and therefore followers of that ideology must be treated as dangerous.

So supposing a group of nu-nazis formed and they beleived everything nazis do except they had a commitment to peaceful, if dramatic, rallies and to only use their speech and the political process to change minds.

Would you justify violence against the nu-nazis too?

>>138082638
8gag gets a lot of traffic from reddit and voat.

>>138086413
>deporting = threatening the life and safety of "minorities"
>Killing nazis = wrong but only self defence because them having a ethnostate like every other race is evil

get out of here

>>138079918
>express sensible centrist views and that you don't like the orange meme man
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHILLL DA JOOOOS SHARIABLOO

bastion of free speech indeed

>>138087114
>Its not free speech if people are mean to me
this is an 18+ site

>>138086845
>and they beleived everything nazis do except they had a commitment to peaceful, if dramatic, rallies

So they want to form a political bloc that centers itself around infringing upon the rights of non-whites and gays if they ever get power, but will never throw a punch at anyone during their rallies? Clearly you don't see my point.

>>138086998
>Violence is wrong during nazi protests. Once nazi's get in positions of power then violence against minorities is okay.

You're fucking stupid.

>>138087114
>100,000,000 forums to choose from
>picks the one that loves the President most
>whines about it
gtfo faggot

>>138086630
do you think 4chan is...Japanese?

>>138087114
Centrism is just a pretty name for intellectual cowardice.

>>138087720
>muh only extremes exist
you may not have an american flag, but it's obvious what you are

Theres a competitor?

>>138087679
Who owns this site? I'll give you one guess what his nationality is.

>>138081407
>I never thought speech would be censored on the internet
Just want all you niggers to know I predicted this basically as soon as I started the internet. My next prediction, white people won't recover

>>138088024
Not a centrist faggot, that's for sure.

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>>138084447

>>138088233
That's completely irrelevant to where it's hosted.

Do you think Moot sold 4chan and gookmoot just decided to move the servers?

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>>138087679
The owner is

>>138083146
I agree with you Hans.
These plebeians are destroying everything nice.
We should enslave them and go back to the natural order where we can hang them simply for interacting with us out of terms.
You don't speak to me unless I speak to you, pleb.

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>>138088703
I heard Hiro buried them underneath Iwo Jima and set up quite the defense there

>>138079918
>western
Moot sold us out to the gooks

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>>138087114

>>138079918
It's the only reason I come here, there is literally no where else you can bantz for fun or to spread knowledge. Weird that this site is the last bastion, the rest of the net is too corporate and the corporate power structures hate free expression even more than governments.

>>138083248

Cara? Wasn't she a lesbian or something?

>>138087376
So then you lied. You ARE justifying violence against a political opponent because of political differences and not because they pose an actual threat.

Saying something like "the nazis are just soooo bad that its ok this tim" is what is meant by the phrase "sinking to their level" and is meant by us when we say "You guys are the same"

>>138084003
it's not about being a crybaby, that entire thread is against the rules

people have had threads that aren't against the rules deleted and that shit stays up

the mods are not doing their jobs and it fucks up this board for everyone here

>>138085790
"Blood and Soil" means loyalty to your people and land you fucking idiot

it's not some fucking warcry

>>138086369
>being this fucking new
>not knowing the name of the fucking show is highschool dxd
fuck off normie

>>138079918
He brought bad optics to the Trump administration with his nazi larper type shit. I'm glad he's gone, just a huge distraction like Flynn.

>>138081434
>go to 8/pol/
>type in literally anything in one thread
SHILL SHILL FUCK OFF TRS FUCK OFF /LEFTYPOL/ ONE POST BY THIS ID FUCKING KIKE SHILLS CTR FUCK

And I thought this place was autistic.

>>138092310
thats the play bruh

call everyone a shill and the nonshills will just dismiss it but the actual shills freak out

>>138079918
why is she doing that with her butt

>>138079918
If by free speech you mean autistic screeching.