Alt-Right Reformation

Not wearing a leaf flag this time I see.
take a hike, larper.

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Lets see how those cuckservative methods are working out for the people who are trying them shall we?

Oh right, they aren't working at all.

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>>137834469
"National Conservatism" seemed to be the winner from the last thread.

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>>137834583
See guys. Even if you're not a LEAF Nazi LARPers will still call you a LEAF. We should just give up.

Naziboos stay in your mothers basement where you belong, fags.

>>137834605
Hitler completely fucked the white race. We can't use his symbolism it scares people away. How can you not see that

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>>137834605
See -> >>137835129


PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCMENT: The script the LARPers/Shills? Are going with is to say that we will all just be called Nazis no matter what and we should therefore proudly don our KKK hoods.

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>>137835129
As much as I like the Etruscan/Roman/etc imagery, sci-fi and other futuristic imagery would be more forward-thinking. Plus the whole "future fash" thing has been massively successful-- the aesthetic really gained popularity from the chans (and /pol/ specifically), and now you see the neon retro-wave stuff everywhere.

We want to eventually be the political movement that truly ushers in the next generation and brings our race to the stars, yes?

>>137835093
I liked traditional futurism.

>>137834469
You're a fucking idiot if you think this will change anything. Our opposition unironically believes milktoast conservatards in MAGA hat are "Nazis" so what the fuck are you scared of the Swastika for? Get real, optics don't matter anymore this is a fucking war.

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>>137834469
When right wingers were beating the shit out of antifa in the name of patriotism, nobody cared. It's a winning recipe.

>>137834605
>>137836255
Shills, go ask for a new script

>>137834469
I like the statue loophole for the penis rule

>>137834605
this is different. the world is not simply not ready for it. you can still be a natsoc just hide your power level okay? at the very least we need to buy ourselves time to grow.

we have a chance here to define Indentitarianism as a completely new thing without as much baggage.

frankly when it comes down to it the entire planet has to deal with the evil of globalism and the only way we can resist it is by globally asserting that all the diversity of the world has an indentity if does not want to mix together and lose. frankly globalism is a greater immediate threat than anything else because if the (((elites))) gain supreme control of all the countries and places lose sovereignty, it won't be pleasant for anyone, even if we were supposedly all white

fight globalism with indentitarianism first, and only then can you go on to larp about nazis

>>137835093
>national conservatism
this is perfect

>>137835093
National Conservatism, I like the sound of that!

>>137835727
that's national socialist tier (or more like fascist actually)
>>137834469
>le ebil nazis
>uses volkisch aesthetics
top kek
we could use getting rid of the alt-kikes too, it's the big tent that fucks everything up
national socialism isn't a ideology of compromise like the alt kikes are

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If we are going to use old imagery, it needs to be from actually successful empires that haven't been demonized think roman byzantine greek. I like the futuristic idea but we also need to bring real white culture back

>>137835727
It is better to connect yourself with something that is established and impossible to tie to Nazism or the KKK. There is already a Wikipedia page about national conservatism that connects the term to all the anti-migration parties in Europe, many in a ruling position. What are they going to do? Call the ruling party in Denmark Nazi? Sure we would be the most radical element of that movement, but that is OK. Both Petry and Farage just retweeted one of Defend Europe's tweets, and I would say Generation Identitaire is pretty radical considering they want all non ethnic Europeans to leave the continent.

>>137836255
This seriously has to be a script.

>>137836771
>volkisch
dude its the victorious youth it's a classic Greek sculpture

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>>137835727
I like futurist traditionalism

>>137837275
sounds good but then I think oxymoron

OMG guise I just had an epiphany! Let's go with Harry Potter aesthetics! It will short circuit their brains.
^ Actually less retarded than keeping Nazi imagery

>>137834469
At this point anyone displaying nazi paraphernalia is either a deep state psyop or is mentally retarded. Either way they should be aggressively shunned. This includes closet gay David Duke.

Just adopt the hammer and sickle instead, it'll confuse leftards

>>137834469
>"you need to be a cuck"

lol

>>137837511
this is unexpectedly clever

>>137837511
This is pretty funny. Harry Potter has a conservative British feel to it anyway. We should certainly create some Harry Potter memes, presenting Voldemort as the dangerous revolutionary (as he actually is).

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>>137837754
You're either kidding or you don't get it. The LAST thing we want to do is associate with children's fiction (or any hollywood type shit at all).

We live in the real world, leftists live in their fantasy lands.

You goddamned left leaning piece of animal excrement. First you labeled otherwise normal individuals, and now you have galls to pretend that we will fall for your subversive rhetorics again?

This goes out to all pol users: stop calling anything the alt right. Its never been used by anyone in this movement, and it shouldnt have been used. You marxist filth will not divide us. Not then, not now and never will.

Sage goes in all field. I hope you choke on the fifteen cents you get paid per post, you kike motherfucker.

>>137837597
would be pretty funny

Everyone here needs to get a high paying job and become physically fit if not already. Women will go along with anything if your fit and successful We will double our numbers. It's the only way to get women involved no more fat basement dwellers. Future leaders engineers scientists CEOs this is what we need to thrive

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>>137834469
lel, if you're trying to reach out to the alt right, maybe use this sculpture instead.

>>137838219
>This goes out to all pol users: stop calling anything the alt right. Its never been used by anyone in this movement, and it shouldnt have been used. You marxist filth will not divide us. Not then, not now and never will.
it was used by our people at first and then turned into a slur
I still remember the talks about the alt right in stormfront years ago when ramzpaul was making his first videos

>>137837754
the funniest part is that harry potter actor ended up playing a neo-nazi in some movie

>>137838427
who sculpted it? very nice

>>137834469
COCKS COCK COCKS COCKS COCKS

>>137834469
what do when people go

"you are just like the nazis and hitler"

oh

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pointing out Hitler was a great guy undermines all of the social engineering mindrape of a hundred years. it achieves too many objectives not to do

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>>137834469
>If only we distanced ourselves from Nazism, then the Jews would stop calling us nazis.
Are you retarded? The only way forward is to create so many nazis that nazism becomes completely mainstream. Any movement which resists Jewish influence will become synonymous with nazism, as nazis were the only movement in recent history which successfully rolled back Jewish power. History has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Hitler was correct on the Jewish question, if we run from this truth then we have no ground to stand on.

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>>137838596

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Christopher Cantwell agrees with our plan, here's a synopsis of his most recent edpisode:
https://christophercantwell.com/

>"I heard about the statue in Durham, NC being taken down and I was asked if we should stage a demonstration there. I said to the person who asked, that I thought this was unwise. I am now hearing about a possible event in Kentucky, and being asked about this event, and I have the same feelings. I believe the alt-right should lay low and try to deescalate."

>>137835571
This is the first mainstream reaction to globalism. The first movement cradled on the internet. Our society's put one foot in front of the other and passed a technological and social revolution that no one saw coming and no one pushed for. We're just the first to have looked back en masse and noticed, that nothing's the same anymore. That's one hell of an opportunity.

Fashwave isn't just futuristic. It's imagery is already rife with out of place classics, kings, romans, nazis. It's massively anachronistic. We're in a completely new social and technological environment that no one's equipped to deal with. Like the old dichotomy crumbled after industrialization came presenting new challenges, so too is the current one. From new parties popping up and springing to prominence all over Europe, or Trump hijacking the republican party the old dichotomy is crumbling in face of a new environment. Facing new foes the old grudges hardly seem to matter, we don't know who we are or how we got here. We've arrived in the future and we're utterly lost. I think that's something the extreme anachronisms in fashwave plays to.

>>137838527
>he doesn't know Arno Breker the sculptor of the Third Reich
>>137838524
and he's a kike btw

>>137838589
> We are National Conservatives. We agree a lot with the ruling parties in Denmark and other European countries. Are you calling Denmark a racist country?

>>137838596
>pointing out Hitler was a great guy undermines all of the social engineering mindrape of a hundred years.
actually it makes you look like a monster in the eyes of the brainwashed normalfags

>>137834469

These are great points anon. Make this thread a regular thing. State Socialism could be the next big thing, and i can already see the media decrying it after figuring out what it means months from now. Good work.

>>137838387
its worth listening to Malcolm X's ballot or bullet speach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oVW3HfzXkg

its more or less what are the game plan needs to be if we are trying for the long game

>>137838605
whats the sauce on this image? translation too

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Here is a link to the Discord. Feel free to join if you're a serious indifivual. Everyone will be properly vetted:

>deezcord.gg/QXxTP

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>>137838792
>Arno Breker
1. I'll have to look at his work further he actually looks extremely talented
2. Nobody will follow Nazis in America they aren't even American. It just scares people away from the movement I don't understand how people don't see how Nazism isn't compatible with America

>>137838605
The point isn't to stop the jews calling us nazis. It's to engineer the situation so that they look like histrionic faggots when they do it.

>>137834605
>>137836255
>>137838589
>>137838605

>SHILLS

>>137834469
Shill thread sage

We stay united and we wont be labelled as alt right

>>137836771
Very.
>>137836939
I know. It's not as descriptive and more than likely not as useful. It's just portraying a different dichotomy and sounds amusingly ironic.
>>137837275
I actually like that better too. The former sounds more like some old-timey conception of futurism, some ideological equivalent to steampunk. The reverse gives more the image I was thinking of.

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>>137836255
>milktoast

>>137834469
No. The media is recruiting for us with all their coverage.

>>137834469
stop using labels so easily formed into strawmen by jews in order to destroy a movement. Anybody who ever used 'alt-right' positively since 2016 is a fucking retarded goyim.

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If you watch the Charlottesville rally you will notice that neither side is flying the American flag. The right had literally one or two, and the left none. It leaves open the opportunity to claim the flag for ourselves, if everyone at the rally had flown it exclusively then the left would have taken that as an opportunity to say the nation is racist, burn flags, and generally distance themselves from the flag.
We can claim the entire history of the country for ourselves with the help of the left, simply by flying the flag. The optics instantly improve, and the legitimacy of the movement skyrockets, because then we are not flying a fringe flag, but the most important flag.
The other advantage is that we can say we are the true Americans, and anyone who disagrees is anti-American. Then they are forced to confront the ideas put forward by the movement, rather than the flag.

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>>137838869
This. It takes around two years of casual Hitler and nazi jokes before the Hitler redpill can actually break the conditioning and take hold. There's a reason why "lurk 2 years before posting" was a common saying on /pol/ before the election opened it up.

>>137839645
The Jews will put the label on us either way. This way we can get in front of it. Plus, the idea isn't necessarily to brand "ourselves" as the group-- but rebrand the umbrella boogeyman that the lemmings think we are.

>>137839752
You're not going to be able to coopt a national fucking flag, but it's still a fucking perfect plan for events such as this aimed at preserving national monuments. If you're there with all american flags, and they're screeching at you wanting to destroy your country's history? You're golden.

>>137839996
>national
Historical monuments.

>>137839752
THIS!

I think we should use the flags we already have in our respective countries. It would probably be a great tool when it comes to recruitment.

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>>137834469
>good comments
Also, bring back Milo and the alt-lite and make this shit fun again. The angry "Jews will not replace us" chants lack playfulness and scare all of the shitskins. A cheerful vibe will keep psychos away like the Challenger faggot.

>>137839996
He was talking about for Public events and stuff that we shouldnt be flying fringe flags.. DOesnt mean we don't get to have our own symbols as well

>>137840231
>bring back Milo
Fuck off. Back to /the_donald/ with you.

>>137840231
he's a pdf file

>>137834469
So the alt right are socialist?

>>137835323
The obvious kike shill is saying natsoc, who've been on this board since the begining, are running on a script.

Rich. Kill yourseld t_d.

>>137840427
Do you want to pay for Shaqueefa and her 40 little niglets? No, and neither do your so-called "socialists". Different goals, same enemies.

Anyone saying "hitler did nothing wrong" or "gas the kikes" unironically in public is either a shill or may as well be a shill.

>>137840231
The old threads had stuff about chants in them

"You can run, you cant hide, you get helicopter rides" and a few others are perfect

>>137840427
No, but whether you like it or not the state socialists are on our side. The least we could do is help them with PR so they don't continue to hurt the movement

>>137834469
Cuck harder you fucking faggot

>>137836346
Proud to say I was there.

>>137840622
that's really good

>>137840427
No. The "alt-right" is an umbrella term created by the establishment to describe racially-conscious whites. The goal of this rebranding isn't to rebrand a specific political movement, but the umbrella of the white man's political reawakening. There's room for socialists and individualists under the banner for the time being-- we can worry about that down the line. The first goal must be to wake up the our people to the destruction directly in front of us.

>>137834469
>I'm not actually a member of this organization
>but let me tell you what you white people need to do!
Hilarious. Exactly like the 100+ identical threads made since Saturday.
We don't disavow our own people. We don't turn our backs to our brothers. We have had nothing but consistent explosive growth, and that isn't going to stop. Our message will not change. Our politics will not change.

You kikes have no voice in our ranks.

>>137834469

It's over dude.
We learned all these lessons in the 80s.
There won't be a national movement for whites for another 30 years and they will also then learn the lesson.
Every time this happens, it's almost like it is being orchestrated....

Feel sorry for the sane people who showed up in Cville.

>>137834469
This is way too logical for your fellow alt-righters to understand. If there were capable of the sort of critical thought necessary to realize why this is a good idea, they'd realize that all that stupid shit they believe about a jewish cabal running the world or blacks taking over the country or midgets standing on each other's shoulders in a trench coat to look like one normal person is all bullshit made up by psychotics and trolls who want to laugh at how gullible you are.

You're working with fucking morons buddy; sweettalking them with logic ain't gonna work. If you really want them to follow this strategy, you gotta SPIN it. E.x. "Hitler was actually a gay Jew, and he chose the Swastika as his symbol because it looks like four curved dicks coming out of each other. Stop using this gay/jew symbol, and instead adopt new symbols like [new symbol]. Also, "Nazi" was his pet name for his gay lover, so stop using that shit, or you're referring to yourself as Hitler's gay lover (which is bad, because he was a Jew); instead call yourself a state socialist". Say that shit, and these fucking morons will eat it out of your hands and come back for more. That's how Alex Jones is making so much $$$$$

>>137840945
white nationalism is ok you just can't be preaching a foreign failed ideology that has been demonized for 80 years

>>137841140
No one cares what you think, kike. You're not one of us.
Making these threads on /pol/ is a nonstop source of entertainment for us though. You stupid heebs are such painfully obvious outsiders that you think /pol/ is some sort of center where we organize. It isn't. Just keep outting yourselves with every post, they all get archived.

>>137834605
>haha omg these people are being shut down for their opinions being "too radical", we better larp as something even more radical so we can be shut down even more easily, right goys?

Fuck outta here

>>137841320
Its called pushing the overton window, and it works.

>>137836346
This shit was A e s t h e t i c c as fuck if you ask me.

>>137841304
have fun winning over the public basement dweller

>>137834469

>mug movement

Who gives a fuck. Nothing ever changes anyway. Be a Nazi, an ANTIFAggot, a ethno nationalist, a capitalist. None of it matters. The balance of power never changes. We're all still under the same thumb we were a decade ago, and a decade before that.

Politics is fucking dumb as shit. It's stagnant as fuck and all it amounts to is petty squabbles, name calling and general dissent. 99.9% of everyone on the planet are dumb as fuck meat bags. Cattle. Sheep. Label yourself whatever the fuck you want. That's not going to change.

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>>137841418
>just had two days of public demonstration with thousands of people
>hurrp basement dweller

Look at how the kike scurries away when wounded

>>137841559
not all of them wave Nazi flags because not all of them are brainlets. What exactly do you want to do set up a failed foreign government on American soil

>>137838881
>State Socialism
This is misleading and used by nobody. If you are not revolutionary, then you are not a socialist, but a social democrat.

Use this term
>>137835093
It is the correct and well established ideological term for most of the ideas we agree on.

>>137841877
It's not a term for us it's an alternative for people who want to remain in this reformed Alt-Right. We're not allowing anyone to refer to themselves as NatSocs

I've got a question but didn't want to start an entire new thread for it, so I'll post it here:

Were all those guys wearing the white polos and the khakis in charlottesville on the nazi side? Cuz I grew up in New York, and there are a ton of jews here and that's the kind of shit they wear, so when I first turned on the TV on Saturday I was confused as hell; I was like "wait... all these jewish kids are shouting nazi slogans? what's going on?"

Reminder that if someone openly identifies as "alt-right", it's a shill. No conservative with half a brain will identify as something that labels them as fringe in the name.

>>137841459
We got a nonestablishment populist in the white house.
This populist candidate is pursuing an agenda that closely mirrors ours in many facets. If planned immigration policies get put into effect the Dems are going to lose an immense chunk of their voter base for the next presidential election.
This demographic shift and unification of white conservatives will allow us to gain more ground in congress as well. We'll have more Trump-like populist conservatives in the house. We are already well on the way to having our ideology brought into the center of the mainstream political spectrum.

When the left is so overtly antiwhite, and they lose political power, they will have no choice but to abandon their chosen platform and pander to whites. When this happens all of the right will be leaning towards hard Nationalism.

>>137841755
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b
No one cares, kike. Your words are totally meaningless here. If you want someone to listen to you stay in your synagogue.

>>137842026

>having power over others political opinions

Dumb as fuck leaf. Good luck stopping that.

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I'm really not one for going all NSDAP in public, but I won't counter-signal people who do and anyone who would is a fucking cuck. If you're a cuck, go post on RamzPaul videos and get the fuck off of /pol/.

>>137841103
Our main problem right now is that the Alt Right degenerated into shitposting in public. It's better to attract a smaller group of intelligent people with their lives sorted out than having people in the movement that risk setting everything back just by opening their mouth to a journalist.

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New Discord invite, old one is expired. Only serious individuals and you will be thoroughly vetted:

deezcord.gg/vUxCR

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>>137834469
I vote natsoc be renamed to "traditional nationalist"
1. We like traditionalism
2. We like nationalism
3. We can make it natsoc without calling it natsoc
4. It contains no words that normies have bad associations with

>>137842221

What's changed for you personally on a day to day basis after the recent election of Trump. Like, actually tangibly happened to you.

>>137842026
>We're not allowing anyone to refer to themselves as NatSocs
Just leave it out then. State socialism is not something that people would consider serious. Why can't people that identify as NatSoc just be part of the movement, and if they need to, explain their own ideas of how society should be without giving it a name. Most of the larpers would not be capable of describing their ideology correctly anyway.

>>137838678
Except we've never escalated. It's always been the alt left who escalated and the alt right defended. If the alt right steps back, we're giving ground and it will just show that we can be scared off.

We don't need to be agressive, but we sure as fuck shouldn't fall back.

>>137834469
go suck a cock, alt-lefty

>>137843137
Veli mina lyon sinut ajoissa vaikka jakamme myos syntyma

>>137842068
>Were all those guys wearing the white polos and the khakis in charlottesville on the nazi side?
You should drop that look anyway, because it makes you look extremely American. Instead: wear black, gray or dark blue pants.

>>137842561
Our prior public events have been nothing but peaceful. Pikeville was such an outstanding success that people from all over the town were coming out to thank us in person. Dozens of people were offer to be taken out to dinner by total strangers for defending their town.
The breakdown in order in Virginia was a deliberate setup. The police were ordered to stand down, they prevented our speakers from approaching the stage, when they ordered us to leave they were physically pushing our men directly into the crowd of Antifa.

The city is not getting sued for it. I don't count that as public shitposting. We weren't in the wrong.

>>137842765
Dozens of people in my community are openly pro white. I live on a big lake in a high income area, and there are people out on their boats every day with Identitarian flags. A bunch of people started flying confederate flags outside their houses when the left started tearing down monuments. I'm in the North, and theres that much solidarity with the WASPs here.

People aren't apologizing for who they are. Thats one hell of a big change from the atmosphere under Obama when we had constant gun control panics and ammo hording. People aren't bitching about property tax increases, no one is holding their tongue when they see the president on a TV at the bar. We have a pro white rally at a high scale bar here now.

>>137838923
I believe it is roughly translated:
>When Germany is in trouble
>The Fuhrer will return to its rescue
>And lead it to the Final Victory

>>137834469
>new umbrella term TBD

We already figured it out in a previous thread.

We're anticom. Short for anti-communist and the inverse of antifa.

>>137834469
Natsocs should go to leftypol

>>137834469
>>137843622
Relevant thread:

>>137803526

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>>137843622
No. Anti-COm already exists btw and they're one of the Discords that got shoahd alongside the Daily Stormer. "National Capitalists" has been the best term to come out of these threads and we're not cvertain we are going to use that as an umbrella term yet either

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I really wish I could choose INDEPENDANT but Kekistani will do. OP: You made so much sense, I hope the mods sticky this or make sure it stands tall for awhile. The biggest turn off to people joining the right is the Nazi.. I eliminate any other non white red pilled person. Blacks for example, they are some of the most conservative family units when there is a MAN present, yet they constantly vote against their interests ( vote D ) because of identity politics. If the ALT RIGHT did not have tons of open neo Nazis , kkk etc just imagine getting large amounts of the black vote.

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>>137843705
or 8pol, they are just as bad now regarding free speech/etc. Full-on stormfags run the place there now.

>>137843392
Okay, but it is really risky to plan on fighting the anti-fa because that will attract violent people to the movement, and that is exactly what happened. You can still hold rallies, and you can still defend yourself from attacks, just drop the shields and combat gear, and only use your flagpoles as weapons if you need to.

I'm Jewish and I'd rather you all larp about Hitler all day...

^_^

>>137843907
y u ruin rt

>>137834605
What do you mean they aren't working. Trump is fucking President.

Meanwhile Spencer's little stunt to protest monument dismantling has caused even more planned dismantling in addition to baiting a false flag for the (((media))) to lap up.

>>137836255
It matters to independents and the undecided voters of 2020 who don't want to be labeled nazis.

>>137834469
>white penises
why are they so small?

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>>137843074
Right. People should keep their beliefs and explain them under an updated aesthetic. Just drop the purity spiralstika, use the American flag, and keep the same beliefs. No problems, and suddenly the optics are improved 1000%.
>inb4 muh optics, muh normies
These are important things to consider, and normies are needed. Stop being a purity spiral faggot.

>>137843871
>vote against their interests
Handouts is the interest of leeches.

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>>137843997
Sheilds are great optics imho. They show a desire to defend yourself without being intimidating.

>>137843871
Blacks are never going to vote for Republicans. This is a total fallacy, and the Republican party has been trying to pander to them from the 1800s. It will literally never work. Blacks are welfare seekers. No matter how much white Republicans pandered to the black cause the blacks would never return support in kind. White Republicans lead the abolitionist movement, and freed slaves argue that they should be able to own their own slaves. White Republicans in the NRA arm and train freed blacks to fight off the Klan riders, and blacks return the favor by supporting Democratic labor unions.

Republicans have been trying to pander to Mexicans/Central Americans the same way. When George W. Bush was till in office the GOP was talking about amnesty for illegals, and they almost got it to pass. These people come from socialist countries, and they come ever explicitly for all of the social benefits we offer. They will never vote for a freer market.

Identity politics is not some transient concept. ALL politics is identity politics. Whites in western countries are simply the only party who refused to play, and we lost our countries because of it.


>>137843997
The shields are sadly a necessity. These people throw explosive devices. Fireworks, home made bombs filled with kitty litter and shit. They were throwing ammonia and bleach on people, bottles full of stale piss.
If we didn't have shield walls we'd have people losing limbs. We can't count on the police to keep us safe.

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>>137834469
>I wouldn't even waste your time trying to explain to people how "Yah know, the Nazis really weren't that bad"

LOL

>>137843622
Anti-com could catch on. What about seperating the milita from the politics? One political organization that holds rallies, and then anti-com comes to defend it whenever needed. If anyone say the movement is violent, then we just answer, "no that's anti-com they sometimes come to defend our rallies from violent communists".

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>>137834469
We don't have the right to carry Nat Soc flags just yet anyways. Hitler did far far more than we did.

I agree, we should rebrand, but the swastika will come back once the 14 are secured.

>>137836255
Who cares about our opposition? Its the normies in the middle we need to reach. They don't trust MSM but if faggots are allowed to parade around in Klan hoods at rallies they won't even need to trust MSM to believe that we're genocidal maniacs who went to gas 6 gorillian Jews

>>137836346
You alt-right fags who went to that disastrous rally last weekend need to learn from this picture. You don't fucking win by dressing up like pussies while marching with tiki torches and sieg heiling like spergs in public. You fags need to represent the USA, wave the American flag instead of Swastikas. Your cause will be a lot more palatable to the normies this way.

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I like this symbol too.

>>137843863
Your reason for saying no is nonsense.

It's great branding that is unknown to normies. You guys are retarded not to recognize this.

Obviously leave the old logos etc behind, I'm only talking about the phrase "anticom."

The right is terrible at branding strategy and it shows. You guys (assuming someone in this thread has some kind of leadership or connection - probably a stretch) can't see a good idea when it hits you in the face. I doubt any of you run businesses. Too many of you are dumb, inexperienced kids.

I'm not going to argue with you. All the necessary points were made in the thread I linked.

Keep fucking up so the "alt-right" (which has always been horrible branding btw) continues to flounder.

>>137834469
OP is right

14 over 88

ditch the 88, raise high the 14

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>>137834469
Dude there's already an organization dedicated to what you're talking about. They even use similar aesthetics. Check out pic related.
t. IE member

>>137844943
and more orgs have to take up the IE plan.

The toxic influence of WN 1.0 shit-tier aesthetics needs to be broken. Betas like Mike Enoch feeling like a badass because his buddies are "Nazis" isn't helping, for instance.

This is a real issue that isn't going away. The left wins when our racial identity is "Nazi" to people.

>>137844851
>continues to flounder
>by massively growing in numbers
>by having real PR figures
>by having a real political think tank that is internationally respected
>by having a solid ideological basis which transcends any political creed

You have no idea how pathetic you really are.
Alt-Right has the NPI. We have talking heads like Jared Taylor. We have Kevin MacDonald who authored The Culture of Critique. We have American Renaissance.

"AntiCom" has a discord server full of trannies and bronies.
You degenerate redditors aren't in a position to preach to anyone.

>>137834469
WRONG

ALL WRONG

>>137844938
14 all the way, so long as 88 comes right after.

>>137845264
>>137845264
88 is only possible if people are already 14. By trying to jam 88 stuff down non-14 throats, you make the non-14s vomit before they swallow the 14

HIDE YOUR POWER LEVEL!

prove me wrong nigger

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>>137836255
>1 post by this ID
At this point, anyone who still says this is clearly a fucking jew/commie/lefty shill or a massive idiot. This movement will never go anywhere if you fags continue to let yourselves be sabotaged by acting like neetsoc spergs out in public.

>>137844851
The problem with anti-com is that it does not capture what we stand for as a movement. As I stated in another post, it would be better to form anti-com as a separate milita that protect the rallies. That way they can be almost as violent they want without it hurting the movement. If our anti communists milita drove a car into a what would then have to be communists, then less people would probably care about it.

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>>137844800
This is 100% correct. Using a fringe flag makes zero sense, it brands you as a fringe group instantly.
>>137844943
Video game flags not allowed, this or the overwatch flag. Evropa with a fucking v. Why not just fly the American flag and say you recognize the importance of the European roots of the United States, and that it was build by and for European descendants? The message is good, just stick in under the American flag. If you want to have an impact on American politics you can't fly an international flag.

\o

SEIG

>>137834469
In short... go back underground where white nationalists have been for the past half century. Fine with me so long as I don't fucking see it

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Fuck the Alt left, they cant visit pol and demand changes like some sharia law muslim
begone terrorists, this is our board of peace

>>137845669
I am starting to wonder if these are homeless people with access to a library computer? How much do they get? A couple of bucks to spam the board all day?

>>137845112
IE is planning on standing on its own in the future. We're the ones who pretty much decide the tactics and optics that everyone wants to copy. We already are easily the highest quality group.

>>137844832
let us educate blm

>>137845528
So much concern trolling, so little knowledge.
There were dozens of American flags being carried at the rally, only a couple people brought NatSoc flags with them. Of course the MSM is going to focus only on what they can easily demonize. You should know better than to swallow and regurgitate MSM narrative like a good goy.

The Identity Evropa flag represents a people, not one specific country because it exists in mainland Europe as well. The point is that it is about blood, it is about the people first and foremost.

>>137835571
>As much as I like the Etruscan/Roman/etc imagery, sci-fi and other futuristic imagery would be more forward-thinking. Plus the whole "future fash" thing has been massively successful-- the aesthetic really gained popularity from the chans (and /pol/ specifically), and now you see the neon retro-wave stuff everywhere.
>We want to eventually be the political movement that truly ushers in the next generation and brings our race to the stars, yes?
Very good indeed

>>137845361
Agreed.

>>137839963
>>>137838869
Hitler jokes have been around since Bush.. no conditioning broken

>>137845528
We already fly both confederate and american flags along side our flag. You're nitpicking the best group in the alt right.

>>137834469
Hear hear

Trumps presser was basically him saying

>I'm with you guys, but please fucking leave the Nazi shit at home you morons

>>137845750
no this board is open for freeeee speech ma nigga

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Winnning:
> Train your opposition to hate a powerful symbol. this is how to control them
> You cannot fly the flag of a historical enemy (even if it was a mistake) and expect to receive wide cultural support. This will only succeed in uniting the opposition whereas uniting under the american flag will divide the opposition into American vs. Anti-American. Too many people like this country and it’s ideas have prevailed.
> Any government in the U.S. (local, state, federal) will feel obligated to protect the U.S. flag as a symbol, and any violence against it cannot be portrayed as moral.
> It is lawful in every way to carry the U.S. flag and say anything you want to define it. Force fed red pills.
> Any partitioning symbology will be perceived as weak individualism by strong people and leaders. You should at least want to try to have your ideas integrated into the massive institutions that already exist especially when there are people in the Executive administration ready to catch you when you fall
> There are too many disadvantages of not defining yourself, WHEN NATIONALISM IS ALL ABOUT DEFINING YOURSELF
> You will distinguish yourself from (((subversive outliers))) and undisciplined copycats.
> Undisciplined mobs are easily divided and distracted by paid agitators, then pushed aside. Their voices don’t matter to a strong unified group. Strength is in unity. This is what the advantage is in a nationalistic political strategy. Use it as much as possible, and use it where it hurts the most.
> If you cannot manage a crowd of violent homosexuals as non-violently as possible (shield wall, helmets, face shields…), your voice and actions will not be taken seriously.

>>137845184
This is why you are failing and why you would never be able to successfully run a business.

Your argument illustrates nothing but acute stupidity. I'm not a member of anticom as it stands. I'm simply stating that the word anticom should be appropriated as the new umbrella term for the right. You got that, faggot?

Just because some gains are made does not mean you don't take your weakest aspects and make them your strongest. This is how an efficiently run organization improves.

Jared Taylor is great. Kevin is painful to listen to, doesn't know his own facts, flounders even in the friendliest interview environment and can't make cogent points. He writes so-so, but doesn't deserve the worship you faggots heap of him.

And lastly, you are floundering. If you had decent branding then the movement would have already been inoculated against the vehicular manslaughter/ murder/ whatever blowback, at least to a degree.

I'm not wasting my time debating some faggot just out of college, which describes most of you dumbasses (and that's the experienced ones).

Without more intelligent leadership you're going to get fucked. Spencer has his strengths, but branding isn't it.

>>137843085
Maybe step back is the wrong word, regroup and reorganize, cut out the retards like spencer

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>>137834469

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>>137843705
disagree

>>137846178
>> You cannot fly the flag of a historical enemy (even if it was a mistake) and expect to receive wide cultural support.
fucking this

neo nazis are so stupid not to see this

>>137846056
>Trumps presser was basically him saying
>>I'm with you guys, but please fucking leave the Nazi shit at home you morons
fucking this

plenty of mainstream rightists feel the same way we do, they are just afraid of being linked to the psychotic crazy neo nazi fringe

Neo Nazis are antiwhite
Never forget

>>137834469
Sargon/CIA Get the fuck out to reddit you are NOT welcome here.

>>137834469
Do not make it so easy for them. Do not bear Nazi or KKK flags. No torches reminiscent of Nazi marches. Only use violence as self-protection. We must win the public opinion.

We already know that we are always going to be the bad guys, whatever we do but please do not make it so easy for them. WN will become an accepted political movement.

>>137845447
Neither does "alt right." A title does not need to capture an entire mission statement, that's absurd.

But I agree that, if necessary, they could simply act as the "muscle." Similar to the way the Patriot Guard acts for military funerals to keep leftists from fucking up the honors.

It's sad that a bunch of bikers can brand themselves more intelligently than the brightest of the "alt-right." Really, really fucking sad.

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>>137846193
Every jew eventually burns. This is non negotiable. Agreed? Don't you counter signal McDonald. Here's just one of many reasons why.

Nazi party and kkk have been infiltrated since the 90 s by zog alphbet organizations. They have been controlled opposition since forever. Nothing is lost, by abandoning these co opted toxic labels.

>>137846316
Hitler himself said you shouldn't associate yourself with an old and unpopular movement and anything that doesn't help the cause should be gotten rid of.

>>137846056
Refusing to push the overton window further right is inevitably conceding ground to the left.

>>137846193
>continues to fallaciously assert that we're failing by some imaginary metric
>mr unaffiliated know it all thinks he can do everything better
>regurgitating the same terminology as if hes parroting buzzwords off of a script

Well golly. If you're not a member of Antifa you sure do a great impression.
No one cares for the concern troll of a nonwhite kike. Stay in reddit with the rest of your unwashed brethren.

>>137846342
SARGON WOULDN'T WANT WHITE IDENTITY TO SUCCEED YOU DUMB CUNT

anti-88cucking is not pro-civic nat

>>137846402
>Do not make it so easy for them. Do not bear Nazi or KKK flags. No torches reminiscent of Nazi marches. Only use violence as self-protection. We must win the public opinion.
this

inb4 88cucks say we can't EVER win the public support because they have no confidence in their own ideas

wtf i love marxism and starving now

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>>137840945
>if I can't autistically parade around my safety blanket known as the nazi flag, the white race will fall no matter what.
Do natsocs care more about the flag or white people, that's the fundamental question. There is a bizarre insistence to parade around the swastika as if it's akin to the fucking holy cross.

>>137834469
They call white nationalists neo-Nazis and white supremacists. It doesn't matter what you do, all of those terms along with fascist and KKK are interchangeable

>>137846486
Nothing wrong with torch marches, they look cool and it's a morale builder. Plus, it is a nationalist European tradition. Everything else is true.

>>137834469
are black people allowed

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>>137846486
The jews die though. This is non negotiable once the 14 are secured. If you stand in the way of this you will die with them.

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>>137834469
no

>>137845848
One thousand american flags count for nothing, when the the lugenpresse sees a swastika flag, be fucking smart, if you really care

>>137834469
There's no sense in denouncing those elements. It simply paints the whole movement as nazis when you have to call people out on it.

Just handle it in house. If someone shows up with nazi shit, beat them on the spot and throw them at Antifa (remember to remove the inevitable mask).

If the Alt-left sides with the guy, you know he was a shill. If he gets beat up, fine. You look like the good guys, and only took a single casualty.

No need to make statements - actions look more American.

We havent won yet, so we have to adapt to the zog game, in order to infiltrate

>>137845848
Let IE stay them. The term Alt Right needs to go away. Stop saying that you are part of the alt right, just say that you are part of the national conservative movement in America, which is exactly true anyway. National Conservatism is an umbrella term for all the far right anti migration parties in Europe, many in ruling positions. Being associated with them is rock solid, and impossible to frame as Nazi without sounding ridiculous.

>>137846515
>Do natsocs care more about the flag or white people
the flag by far

meanwhile cursing the ignorant white conservative lady who doesn't like the flag

Actually being pro-white would entail hating neo nazis because neo nazis have aided and abetted the left in demonizing white identity.

An actual natsoc once told me that only cucks promote white identity, and that fascism/natsoc matter more. Fucking cuckfaggots.

>>137846596
I don't know man, normies are what matter (normie white conservatives) and if the torches freak em out instantly, we need to seriously think about not doing it.

Also, something being a european naationalist tradition doesn't make it something we should do. We need to be fresh/not tarred with the brush of "fascism".

retarded thread

the alt-right was already doing this exact strategy. literally everything you said about not accosting with hitler or natsoc, and focusing on white advocacy.
those that didn't were from WN1.0, or shills

this thread is not only cucky, but also retarded
and nothing more annoying that a cuck who dones't know what he's talking about trying to use a "listen here" attitude

Agreed, we've all taken the Jew pill, no need to Stormfag all day, get over it and move on!
Do not fall for these false flag events.
Back to what we do best.

>>137834469

All you faggots stating the obvious seem to he falling for the nedia narrative- 99.5% of people at that rally had no natsoc or KKK symbolism. Nearly everyone always knows what you're saying- the key is just removing the NSM types dressed up as hollywood villains

>>137846515
The way you frame this is proof that you're not being genuine. You present false concern as if you're some unhinged cat lady right out of a HuffPo comment section.

There aren't thousands of us running around waving NatSoc flags like you're erroneously implying. The only conclusion that can be drawn by the content of your posts is that you're either a huge cuck or you're not white. You're blatantly spitting out CNN rhetoric and acting like every little thing is the end of the world.

We won't stop pushing the overton window.

>>137846750
The MSM narrative doesn't matter. Trust in the media grows lower by the day, and when the middle America voters see both CNN and Fox news unanimously supporting Antifa their networks will have zero social pull.

If so many of you are concerned about our movement and the future of this country then get involved. Don't sit on the sidelines and wait for someone else to do it for you. Shitposting on /pol/ all day about what you think would be better is completely meaningless.

>>137846970
Answer my question. Do you support jewry or not.

>>137846970
>the flag by far
That's a lie and you know it

>>137844720
agreed possiblity

>>137839752
yeh i was saying that to someone the other day if everyone would fly the yank flag instead of all these esoteric ones that normies dont know what they are then all they see are people on the left and right waving flags thats are not american, also get out your maga hats do what trump did use soro's color revolution against him use maga hats and american flags it shouldnt be that hard to understand your president literally did just that and won

Also you guys should of listened to ramzpaul a year ago when he warned of this but nooooo your just a cuck man !! and ive watched you tards paint yourself into a corner associating with duke the fukn meme and the DS its so obvious whats happened but people like VoxDay you dont listen too it will be up to those guys to salvage this mess

also i have noticed that this joint attack on the altright the doxxing taking down servers has been coordinated with alt lite eclebs aswell they were never your freinds and were always on the other side mike, loomer, jack and their little coalition of freaks are loving this right now and not missing a chance to stick the knife in

VoxDay still thinks the brand is salvageable i prefer taking advice from him so lets see if it can be done
also you people didnt need this to happen to wake up or change your mind it should of been at the start, you could of explained this shit to a 6 yr old and they would of understood

>>137846678
>The jews die though
right now saying this just makes people think you're crazy, if you actually want to hurt the jews you one of those dumb 88cucks shouting anti-jew slogans.


That makes normie whites who never even think about Jews think "wow these crazy fuckers hate innocent Jews"

this thread is cuck nonesense

stop bumping this shit - there is more nuanced strategy to discuss, but this is just cuckery

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>>137846970
The torch march showed strength and it look beautiful. It looked cool and powerful. The optics were good, but the only problem was groups like Vanguard or the Daily Stormer crowd saying 'Jews will not replace us'.

>>137847189
nope you're wrong

bump

neo nazis boost leftwing power and you know it

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>>137846535
>They call us Nazis so lets just become Nazis!

No

>>137847264
no. you're a fucking retard:

>>137846992

>>137846482
>overton window further right is inevitably conceding ground to the left.

Except Nazi larping pushes it lest

The masses have been programmed their entire lives to think Nazism is literally the most evil thing to ever exist. Even many of those who are sympathetic to us and want none white immigration done away with will still draw the line there. It's a failing strategy.

We neee to appeal to as many normies as possible so that they will trend right

>>137846316
>Neo-Nazi's are anti-white
This is very true. I'm going with that. Probably shills too. Wouldn't be the first time

>>137846953
This is correct.

If you can't come up with something less shit than "alt-right" just dump it for Conservative Nationalism or something similarly descriptive.

>>137846515
Welcome to the Alt-Right Reformation thread friend, this will be half of the posts that you see. These people are turbo retards

>>137834469
>state socialists
>states feuding with eachother


>civil war 2

>>137836255
>haha the mentally disabled liberals are calling every conservative a Nazi and are attacking them!
>so therefore we should larp even harder as nazis, goyim!

Neck yourself shariablue shill

>>137847152
I'm not going to say this outside of the chans, but it's what's necessary.

>>137847257
>>137847257
ok, this makes sense

but please have pre-planned NON-EDGELORD slogans to shout

Also IMPORTANT:
DON'T LOOK ANGRY WHEN YOU'RE MARCHING

Some of the pics of the torch marchers looked retarded because they looked like angry retards. Everyone has to be told to not make angry AF faces. Serous dude

>>137847374
And I thought Australians were smart.... my bad!

>>137847273
THEY CALLED ME A FAGGOT SO I SUCKED SOME COCK

>>137846953
Now isn't the time for us to fracture ourselves. If we start trying to distance ourselves from any label or term the optics of it are bad. It looks like we're not cohesive.
There are grounds in our ranks who are unironically NatSoc, and there are some which totally appose the idea of socialism in all forms. We're still united by the fact that we're all white brothers, and brothers don't abandon each other when times get rough.

What we're doing, and what we know for a fact works, is to continue to act as if the media criticism has no power. The more they talk about us the more we benefit from the Streisand effect. The more criticism we endure the stronger we look. No media campaign has ever caused our numbers to dwindle.

What most detractors don't realize is that we've gone over this long before we ever took to IRL action. We have people in our movement who have been involved in political movements their whole lives. We know what we're doing here.

>>137834469
sure thing faggot

>>137846970
White nationalism is the goal, tiki torches ae not a problem, roman salutes, swastikas, gas the jews and kkk imagery in public are the problem. Dont fuck it up goy !

>>137847406
Honestly they're not shills, usually. They're the kind of people who like to piss everyone the fuck off and be the ABSOLUTE FRINGE.

The neo nazis LIKE being pariahs. They don't/won't admit it, but they actually like it. Admitting it would make them look pathetic, though, so they don't.

>>137846970
>I don't know man, normies are what matter (normie white conservatives) and if the torches freak em out instantly, we need to seriously think about not doing it.

Just carry candles and/or oil lamps, lamps

>>137847257
Yep

>>137847257
The chant was "you will not replace us"
Anyone substituting you for Jews was just having a laugh. The senior members in Vanguard are the most upstanding men this country has produced in recent history.
Daily Stormer is not a political organization, its a news outlet for teens.

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>>137847524
the alt lite is using this mess to attack
look at jack this is the alternative that they are pushing, also you think this can stop the globalists ??!?!?!
lenin is hitler this is the state of our newly forming controlled opposition HOLYSHIT !!! LOW ENERGY

>>137847152
normie whites are no longer to be tolerated. as long as they are blue pilled they will be controlled by the kikes. we have tolerated weakness for far too long

>>137847751
vanguard are good people

but they are retarded edgy

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>>137847264
without the nazi boogeyman,you and your goals will all be forgotten about.

Support the right or go back to sleep

>>137847767
The alt lite crowd is just having their death throes. They're no longer relevant to US politics. Proud Boys is dwindling with most of their white members joining TRS. Every public event they've tried to organize in the past few months only managed to bring out a couple dozen people. Their counter protest to our free speech rally in DC was the end for them.

At this point they're nothing other than Antifa wearing patriotic face paint on twitter.

>>137847910
They're the American version of National Action.
The type of work they do is important.

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>>137834469
>"State Socialist"

So commies then?

Hitler worshippers are trash. "White advocate" or "white nationalist" is the best branding for Americans, for Europeans just be a Christian.

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That's exactly right. In the American tradition we have three things going for us:

1) We were born of Revolution (with explicit justification for another one if necessary)

2) We were founded on the enlightenment principles of liberty which turned us from a gaggle of colonizers to a political and economic superpower in a century.

3) Free speech is ensconced in our constitution.

Unfortunately, even though many of the founders themselves owned slaves and all whites had racial consciousness, we did not ensconce race in the constitution.

But that's all it would take for a white nationalism of the most splendid kind. All this "the wrong side won WW2" and "Muh Hitler" denies the simple reality that the war we lost is in the decades AFTER WW2, when whites in America and Europe simply failed to exert their racial identity.

Thinking that NAZISM = WHITE IDENTITY is a huge mistake. So is thinking Nazism is necessary to call Jews out on their bullshit.

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Alright goyim, if white nationalism is going to win, we need to get rid of the pro-white stuff. It is VERY highly toxic and threatening to minority groups and women. We should be taking on a more inclusive accepting white nationalism that welcomes all races.

>>137847734
Tiki torches are a good visual and convey a neutral message, at most. Dipshits seig heiling and talking too much did way more damage than the tiki. The tiki is way more powerful and sublime

>>137838427
>German imitations of Greek art

0/10

>>137848006
first of all the kikes need free speech more than we do. they cannot exist without it

>>137846970
>an actual natsoc

just like my neighbor, who disowned his tramp daughter for coal burning, he was from a nazi family and had to flee after the war, when all his compatriots were drinking themselves to death and committing suicide.

Go away you centrist

>>137841304
>everyone who calls me out on my autistic obesssion with Naziism is a kike shill reeeeeee

Or in other words, how to ostracize normies and pave the way for libfags to attain complete control 101

ITT: cucks who got cowed by media shitstorm.
basically in same camp as those cuckservatives who listened to the media thought trump would lose because he said some mean things.

guess what? the alt-right is literally the strategy retardop has said: focusing on whites, and not being natsoc.
the few who tuned up with natsoc flags weren't alt-right.
there were a few spergs on our side, but that comes down to better organising and mentorship - this is where your focus should be, not this hysterical jumping of ship.

now basically you have a bunch of cucks that are "itsover"ing after this rally, and ready to jump on board with cuckservativism. pathetic
you haven't learnt anything - the left doesn't care if you disassociate with fringes: yet they can get terrorists into university. their deconstructivist ideology means that unless you're working to deconstruct white patriarchy, you're evil.

>>137835207
>it was hitla an dose ebil gnadzees goyim, not (((us)))

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>>137848061

Fuck off with your false dichotomy.

>>137847524
Yeah, IE came up with 'You will not replace us'. It's perfect because it has lead to shit like people saying 'we will replace you'
>>137847751
Texas Vanguard is good, but the rest are spergs in my experience. Ultimately, it won't go anywhere because it's openly fascist. Daily Stormer bookclubs are a thing and they're full of trolls.
>>137847983
Dude National Action was WAY too edgy to go anywhere, especially in a place as authoritarian as Britain.

>>137847734
Another example of horrible branding.

What dumbass actually thought that carrying torches was a good idea? Torches, of all things. Why not add pitchforks? Maybe some dangling nooses? When you see a major fuck up like that, it's hard for red-pilled people watching to not wonder if it's all a psyop.

I know better, though. It's just kids not knowing better with shitty leadership.

>>137847095
Just keep the 88 down for now man. The ideals and the 14 are for more important. If we attach ourselves to the American flag we have moderates support and we dont fracture the right. If we have swastikas and black suns everywhere, we'll have an army of the fringe, a militant right arm sure, but that is less valuable than public opinion. If we push too hard we start losing ground, just swap out swastikas for symbols of Rome and bring in plenty of American or whatever your country is flags, attaching western to american to the right wing is very good optics, attaching the swastika to these hits it negatively, period. And even as a southerner, we might need to keep the stars and bars at home for a bit, its rep isn't as bad, but it's still going to be a little bad for optics anywhere not in dixieland. That's my take on it anyway

>>137847767
That picture is pretty sad.

>>137847549
Altright.com is a complete joke that can not be taken serious. When it write stuff like "The mother of the driver had a suspicious name that sounds Jewish" it's can't be taken serious by anyone. Spencer is to fixated on pleasing his crowd here on /pol/. Just let it go.

>>137847857
>normie whites are no longer to be tolerated.
BS

>>137847857
>. as long as they are blue pilled they will be controlled by the kikes
plenty of white people instinctively hate the left, hate antiwhites and hate Pol. Correctness.

We can tap into those people, pretty easily. Your dumb Nazi shit isn't helping us do that. We can actually win if we convert who deep down feel pro-white but can't YET say it (MILLIONS OF SUCH PEOPLE EXIST)

...the vast mjority of those people will NEVER be down for Nazi symbols or WW2 history revision lessons.

I want our people to be strong, too. You can be a weak idiot and think Hitler did nothing wrong. Plenty of white people are RIPE for conversion to our side. Wake the fuck up.

THE LEFT UNDERSTANDS THAT CONSERVATIVE WHITES ARE RACIST DEEP DOWN. THE ONLY THING KEEPING THEM FROM US IS THAT THE THINK PRO-WHITE = "CRAZY NAZIS". KILL THAT THOUGHT AND WE WIN

>>137835207
Fag

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>>137837511
Why arn't we doing this!?!

>>137835093
Sounds american

>>137848310
so you want to convert them to an ideology which they must not speak in public for fear of horrible kike screeching?

>>137848006
National Socialism was basically European traditionalism quantified and natural nobility embraced.

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LOL, you guys still haven't realized that you are fucked and your movement is already ending.

It doesn't matter what you brand yourselves, whether you call yourselves Nazis or not. Much larger and better organized groups than you are already spreading the information needed for people to discern your fascism and your dog whistles. Whether you call it Happy Fascism or not it doesn't matter.

You failed to convince people that Nazi and fascist were meaningless buzzwords (because, as you all know, they're not). You exposed that you exist and that the radical leftists were right the whole time about your racist, authoritarian ideology. Nobody is buying your "silencing people is fascism" or "Nazis were socialists" bullshit. All of your talking points have failed.

Normal people want to see your movement get destroyed. Normal people take the threat of your existence seriously now. To make it even better, you made the idiotic mistake of displaying your swastikas and Identity Europa cuck-flags at a rally that was explicitly labeled as Unite the Right, making it very clear that the alt-right is just a racist movement and cover for fascist ideologies. Then one of your angry neckbeards went out and drove a car into twenty people, killing one of them and making an everlasting martyr for your opposition.

Think about this, if you show your faces, people will destroy your lives because they hate you. If you hide your faces, you will be compared to the KKK, destroying any legitimacy or capability of your movement to spread.

YOUR MOVEMENT IS DOOMED. And it should be. Authoritarian collusion with corporations to create a militaristic ethnostate is the most reliable source of human degradation in history. You are destined to fail as all fascist movements fail. You are comprised of the dregs of the white race because anyone with a modicum of intelligence would never join your movement, meaning you are primarily comprised of underachieving neckbeards and incels.

>>137848061
this isn't what OP said

ITT: cucks cucking out who don't even understand the situation.
alt-right doesn't use nazi imagery.

>>137848213
you hard dickheads chanting white sharia, gas the kikes and blood and honor also spencer got cozy with the daily stormer and weev and shot himself in the foot then there is david duke the meme who turns everything he touches into the david duke show and to shit

you true believers are incredibly thick you dont argue in good faith i no longer trust you

>>137848525
shekels and kikery for all!

>>137847433
*Alt Centrist

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>>137834469
Traitors in the right need a rope neck tie. more on 8 ch

>>137848474
no dude

you just don't get it

>>137848061
Fuck off, shekel eisen berg appel baum berg stein. White identity the reason we fight. It is the only goal. 14

>>137848525
>YOUR MOVEMENT IS DOOMED. And it should be. Authoritarian collusion with corporations to create a militaristic ethnostate is the most reliable source of human degradation in history.

That's fuckin' hilarious coming from a commie. Holy shit. You have zero self-awareness.

>>137848640
this is retarded

Scalise should hang though

>>137848670
then kikesplain it to me some more nigger

>>137848266
National Action had to be edgy. They wanted to give their fellow countrymen something to be proud of. They did things that were audacious and daring because it beckons the heart of the man living in bondage.

>>137848276
We are all considered Nazis by default. This rhetoric would exist whether or not it held any amount of truth. The left calls everyone is, even if we were civic nationalists. They got Antifa to shut down Milo speeches by claiming he, of all people, was a Nazi. People like Mitt Romney and Ted Cruz would still be on twitter denouncing us as divisive bigots if we were complete cucks. Cucking is not the winning move. The winning move is to be who we are and be completely unapologetic.

We cannot let ourselves be ruled by the bar of the left.

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>>137844236
This symbol but with the wings expanded

>>137848593
you're not only without understanding: but also a cuck. stop listening to the media buble: you're not strong enough to do so without cucking, clearly.

>>137834469

You people remind me of a person suffering from Tourettes who nervously goes into a meeting of the minds telling themselves to keep it cool, its just about economics and culture, drive home all the points that can connect with skeptics.... FUCK NIGGER CUNT GAS THE BLACK JEW FAGGOTS PIECE OF PIG SHIT OH MY GOD *pterodactyl scream*

>>137848789
i want people to be able to shout prowhite shit from an rooftop, niggerstein

after that, it becomes easier to be anti-antiwhite which is automatically going to turn anti-jew

THE PROBLEM IS THAT PRO-WHITE IS TABOO, SO CALLING OUT KIKES FOR BEING ANTI-WHITE HAS NO PUNCH TO IT

if you want to fuck over any antiwhites, incl. most kikes, promote pro-whiteism

Someone who doesn't already agree with being pro-white won't "get it" about being anti-jew. Make sense?

>>137848723

Anarcho-Syndicalist here. Decentralized, horizontal leadership structures for me!

>>137848593
this right here

Looks like a based Australian is taking on a really retarded one. I'm getting popcorn.

Yeah. The swastika and roman salute is really only helping you fulfill your larping fantasies. Nobody is asking you to stop considering the possibility that we may need to fire the ovens back up. Just that you don't scare normies away. We can't gas the kikes if we only have 5,000 people in our death squad.

>>137848213
Im for white identity, a failed fascist movement from 70 yrs ago means nothing to me. I want to advance and preserve western white culture right now, and i dont need antiques to prop up my philosophy. White now !

>>137843997
That's a liability and just asking to be defeated. Anyone who has been to a public demonstration of this type knows there must be shields and helmets, facesheilds. You have to be able to physically remove these people they are crazy an highly indoctrinated

i agree, next time there should be no nazi symbols

we need clean cut well dressed white men with their own alt right white nationalist brand. We have to ramp up to white nationalism using other ways that make us not look so bad. Nazi stuff makes us lose the moment we do it.

jews will not replace us chant was too funny though

>>137849079
>The swastika and roman salute is really only helping you fulfill your larping fantasies.
this right here

>>137848875
I guarantee the new Generation Identity chapter in Britain will be far more successful than NA ever was. They were fucked by the gov, but they set themselves up for that given how they treat right wingers over there.

>>137834469
Fuck off nigger.

>>137844835
This with the nations flag hanging underneath. The eagle should be clutching arrows to symbolize the "bundle" or fasci

>>137849093
nice reading comprehension, idiot.
i said nothing about using natsoc imagery. you bicameral mind could only understand me as saying that, apparently.

that alt-right is already doing what you retarded cucks itt are saying: that's been the whole strategy of it from the start. the alt-right or LotS doesn't use natsoc imagery .... as was the point in my post

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>>137835093
This.

As someone said earlier in the thread, we should just show up with Soviet hammer and sickle flags just to fuck with antifa and the media. They wouldn't know what to do.

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NEW BREAD: Nazi LARPers go to bed

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>>137848946
except you can't red-pill anyone until they understand the jew is the root of it all. they will just go back and forth from issue to issue with no center. you can hate the mudslimes and mexicans all you want but what good does that do you? your basis for existence is still not self reliance it is dependence on your kike job, that you got from your kike university with all your friends from kikebook. It is only by rejecting the kike culture that you become free in any way

>>137848930
You can advance white pride and power WITHOUT mentioning 88, gas the kikes and kill all niggers.

>>137834469
kill yourself alt lite

>>137835207
> implying we need people who get scared by symbols

i'll say it once again for all the shills and hysterical cucks in this thread:

the alt-right doesn't use natsoc imagery
the ones using it at the rally weren't alt-right

>>137849462
amen

>>137849475
>except you can't red-pill anyone until they understand the jew is the root of it all.
except no

a leftist who gets told jews are behind all this cultural rot and bullshit will like Jews for it

people have to be prowhite before they will dislike jews for being antiwhite

IT'S SO OBVIOUS JESUS FUCKING CHRISTBALLS

>>137834469
fucking die.

>>137849523
he's prowhite

88cucking is antiwhite

>>137849544
"99% of white people don't matter" the post

fuckoff

>>137849266
They'd have no ground to stand on if it weren't for the groups who came before them. Its always the same. Political movements don't just emerge and rise to prominence on their first shot.

America wouldn't have any WN movement right now were it not for Commander Rockwell. Though Rockwell only had some 400 men himself, he inspired more. He got people to start reading his material. The Stormfront crowd is old men, those old men were holding the torch from that prior generation. A lot of those old men were the handful who were attending AmRen and NPI conferences. Now these movements are filled with young blood, and they have an entirely new face. However none of it would exist today in this capacity without Rockwell.

The message is that politics requires extremism. There are no charismatic radical moderates. People can only be moderate in these matters when someone else has done all the hard work.

>>137849521
you don't have to be crass about it, not that, that is a problem, but you are free to be more subtle if the situation calls for it. read Culture of Critique, that is a very nuanced, well sourced, scholarly argument and not one time does he say gas the kikes race war now

>>137848894
you dumb fucking ice smoking cunt i promise you this you piece of shit if i ever see one of you true believers irl throwing your arm up at a rally even a tiny bit righ-twing or anti islam im going to beat the living shit out of you, i talk to you apologists every day and im continually amazed at your lack or tactics ideas and musings of the bigger picture and the chess moves taking place your not one of us your the fringe minority that imposes its tard will on the majority of ethno nationalists and im sick of minority groups with stupid fucking ideas that dont work and destroy everything imposing their will on the majority

>>137835093
conservatism is part of nationalism.
National social revolutionary is the term.
it does not mislead people with some marxism this way.

>>137849653
Sure, but Rockwell never accomplished anything like we are. We need to learn lessons from him and move on.

>>137848875
Look man, them calling us nazis, while we're carrying around swastikas is completely different than them doing it while we carry the American flag. One hurts the movement. I understand, you are a man of ideals, that's fine you can still keep being a nazi, i'm not one personally, but i've seen enough to know they were not that bad. I am against socialism in general however, but you're far from bad in my books, and way better than fucking commies. I'm a nationalistic fascist according to the pol tests everyone takes on here. Just leave the flag at home until such a time as the right is universally supported. The left has marched steadily, slowly to this point, it is not a sprint to push the overton window back, it is a marathon. America, like all of us were at one point, needs to take the small red pills before it's ready for the big ones, lest they vomit.

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>(((alt-right)))

>go to unite the right rally thats intention is to bring together the newer moderates and libertarians with the older conservatives and religious repubs

>the donald shows up wanting to be special snowflakes calling themselves "alt-right" instead of just assimulating within the republican party

>alt-right is attackable by the left without scrutinizing the whole repub base

>media ascends a leader for "us" ie richard spencer even though he doesnt endorse trump

>one person gets out of hand and everyone is labeled alt-right despite the whole point of the rally was to unite republicans far and wide

>lefties riot and loot and its just considered a individualist group

>alt-right do something bad and the whole republican group is considered responsible

I TOLD U FAGS TO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH THE TERM ALT-RIGHT LONG AGO

IT WAS THEIR ABILITY TO DISCREDIT US WITHOUT PULLING ANOTHER DEPLORABLES

FUCK U fAGGOTS AND YOUR NEED TO BE DIFFERENT!

>but muh alt-right tho
youre fucking repubs you idiots!

>>137834469
Damn! Dudes dick was fuckin huge!
>black ppl BTFO

>>137849557
and we will say it ONCE AGAIN that shit needs to have statements on it and its to be banned !!! and so are the salutes is that so hard to UNDERSTAND !!!!!

>>137848525
>Authoritarian collusion with corporations
What are you, then? 'The voice of the people?'

Sounds fascist to me. Sounds to me like when you have political opinions, your opponents are no longer 'of the people.'

You have no idea how dangerous you really are...and it's sad. You are everything you hate, and you won't realize it until you're 40 years older.

>>137849700
suck a cock faggot. you are free to control yourself and possibly your own group if you have that authority, but you cannot control anyone else

I think this thread makes it pretty clear that some larping faggot will always show up and start roman saluting for CNN and Vice's cameras.

>>137849361
im not asking our NS and WN brothers to change their philosophy, i would like for them to present a better public image. Kikes still run the mass media. Chan life is different from normie life.

>>137849648
if you actually understood history you would understand why his legacy has endured and remains a beacon for white nationalists

>>137849079
The Swatsika is an ancient symbol we still use. (not for nazi stuff either)

The Roman salute is the right way to greet someone from a distance.

>LARPers use symbols
>But so do people who know what they are for.

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>>137848213

Yes, you make a good point. The left will always vilify anyone making any case for white identity. So will the leftist media. And the leftist academia.

But this isn't about the left. This is about winning over the right, the conservatives and libertarians and classical liberals.

And let's face it, there are still too many neo-Nazis around. I blame ignorance. There is a certain sort of person who realizes there is a lot of official lies associated with WW2, Hitler and the Jews and so they conclude, "oh my Gawd! Hitler was right! National Socialism is the way to go!"

They don't understand anything about the authoritarianism, about the good and bad Hitler did for the economy from other schools of thought, about the inherent problems of a bureaucratic socialist tyranny (which we never saw come to fruition because the Nazis lost the war).

In short, they are virtually ignorant of everything but what they build their identity dogma around- which is a kind of mythos of nazism. This plays right into our enemies hands.

Worse than this, even though the Nazis basically accepted the theories of Jew Marx (without the universalism) the neo-Nazis disparage the tradition of liberty because of intellectual luminaries like Mises. Fucking ridiculous. (An idea must we weighed on its merit, not its originator.)

So they reject a classical liberal tradition rooted in freedom, one to which racial nationalism could easily be attached (and to which the younger generation is now flocking) and instead embrace Nazism.

Too many of these people out there and they refuse to stop shitting in the middle of the punch bowl.

>>137849760
no one is forcing anyone to identify with any fucking term. you choose the nature of your own involvement. you have no control over anyone else, why are you wasting your energy pretending you do

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>>137849220
Yes, lets alienate the only guys willing to do anything and split the ranks again.

> The Nazi brought us this far.
now lets abandon them because : the media.

>>137849648
>99% of white people don't matter

if they won't speak their mind, and join the struggle because they are afraid of a symbol,
do you think they will be the opposition when instead of the symbol they will have to oppose the marching patriots?
they just want to have a foot in both shoes.
Yes they don't matter because they will join the winning side.
We just have to win to get their approval.
and what do you propose? sneaky deception," i say one thing but in reality is another one?"
yes fuck the nationalism. let's become the new kikes.

degenerate.

>>137849753
Its a tiny minority of people who had a NatSoc flag.
Let me ask you this:
Is it more important to concede ground, to appease NeoCons, or is it more important to ignore the criticism of your enemies?

>>137834469
> muh alt right
fuck off, CNN shill

>>137849475
The eternal kike is the root of all evil, i agree, but it is a terrible conversation starter. Oy vey !

>>137846316
If the 6,000,000 were to disappear, then the 88 wouldn't be near as bad. Hell, even Germany could be Nazi again because they were against communism, as was America. We're both the same.

>>137849982
I know that, but the point is that normies don't. Our numbers are too small currently to risk scaring away normies who would otherwise be interested if they didn't get scared away immediately.

>>137850164
it is more important to stop thinking you can ever depend on neocons, cucks, normies, kikes or anyone else but yourself. then you will have no reason to compromise

REMINDER - skinheads, neo-nazi's and hillbilly hicks should be mocked and outcasted;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvlQHr590kY

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>>137834469
ur an faggot

>>137846477
Hitler is the only meme that can really save us.
Nazis have the most meme power. They were the coolest dudes to ever walk the Earth. There is no denying that. They are our role models. We must be like them. In order to destroy a people, destroy their roots.

>>137850331
reminder that your country has shariah no go zones and it's biggest city is majority muslim

>>137848525
shoo shoo, alt-left

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>>137850224
Cuck.

Do you think people will join a limpwristed right wing? Do you know what a swatsika is for?

>>137850214
obviously, you start with the basic bitch (niggers and spics) and work from there (how did we get here). it is more an internal process for each person than anything else. it is a process of stopping doubting yourself that every cultural influence in your life has told you is the right thing to do, and beginning to believe in yourself unconditionally

or just abandon the term and call the leftists alt-left

>>137850331
okay faggot, just as you say