What proof is there that this nazi was acting in self defense

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>>137630317
There doesn't need to be.
We have the footage of the commie idiot hitting his car with a bat.
Regardless he's obviously a retard with too many chromosomes who killed someone so it's pointless to argue HOW MUCH of the blame he carries when it's clear he's carrying it.

>>137630741
Then post the proof, idiot. That's what I'm asking for.
>Pics or didnt happen

>>137631073
its all over twitter fucktard you can see the first video that bat being swung and a loud thud, immediately before he plows into the crowd. another video has surfaced of the car driving down the street afterwards with a bumper missing and its back window shattered. if his lawyer plays the 'fear for muh life' card he'll walk and the left will REEE harder than we've ever seen before

>>137630317
Its innocent until proven guilty in this great nation faggot.
You need to prove hes guilty

>>137630317
>>137631749
second this

ive read enough of this, and ive seen enough protesters get run over due to their own stupidity, I was pretty much about to ask these questions myself

>>137630317
Doesn't matter but, i still don't understand why anyone would jump in front of a speeding car if not to use it for their cause.

>>137630317
God I hope he goes free and we have a chimpout of retarded proportions.

>>137631749
>>137632009

Ok but if it can be found anywhere you didn't post it in this thread retard it's a very simple request to post a link or a picture

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>>137631749
>you can see the first video that bat being swung and a loud thud, immediately before he plows into the crowd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FPmojhEeE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FPmojhEeE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FPmojhEeE

I was genuinely thinking people posting this are either trolls or retards, but after watching original vid again today on shit-tier laptop it seems to me that due to the sound quality of this record there is no way to notice he' starting to accelerate at 0:02 (i.e. 2 seconds BEFORE he was hit), unless you use headphones or some quality-tier sound system.

>>137633818
in what universe is your car getting damage makes it okay to run over a crowed.

That;s not how self defense works, you know.

>>137634303
car getting damaged, like in a fender bender, no, being mobbed, yes, it actually is legal

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/protestors-surround-car/

>>137630317
I don't have the link but there is a video going around showing that guys car getting hit by the crowds

Just a question though how can you condem the alt right for one man killing a girl yet the 200 people Muslims killed this year don't matter cause that was crazy lonewolf attacks?

violent alt left disrupting a peaceful

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>>137634597
>b..b..but he was hit with a bat before plummeting people!

Is the defense that I'm talking about.

Now, notice how he wasn't close to the crowd as he accelerated. In fact, he needed to keep going forward, of his own volition, to actually be surrounded.

So, cute goalpost move.
And even cuter straight up lying.

>>137634303
I'm not the one claiming it to be self-defence. Read my post again.

It just seems to me that those claiming "they hit him first" are using shitty soundgear and simply can't hear what's actually going on.

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>>137630317
Im not saying that hes totally fine for killing someone so before anyone replies to this im not saying
>He dindu nuffin

But desu if you had a huge crowd of people gathered around your car smashing it up with bats and sticks wtf would you do??

>>137634303
Self defence works when ever the victim feels he acted out of fear for his life

Imagine being surrounded by 400 smelly transvestites all trying to destroy the car you are trapped inside

>>137631749

he was accelerating his car into the crowd in the hopes of crushing to death some people he believed were subhuman

he's also a fat autistic schizo with manchild syndrome who get fucked in the ass hard in prison

What a Country!

>>137634303
Self defence works when ever the victim feels he acted out of fear for his life

Imagine being surrounded by 400 smelly transvestites all trying to destroy the car you are trapped inside

Of course though you lack any ability to see someone else's points of view because you are an alt left supporter

>>137634303
The universe where you PAID for your car.

>>137635040
why did he drive so fast when 5mph in that car would be enough to get away

>>137630317
>peaceful protesters
lol
Yeah look at all these peaceful protestors with fucking baseball bats. Keep in mind these people are from the group that got into a fight in the parking garage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weg3fP0lZmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GocaQlRUNoU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJhmPJX8Aps

>>137634894
i wasnt talking about charlottsville,i meant in general but ok

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peaceful protesters walk around banging cars with sticks?

>>137634682
We're not stupid enough to fall for misdirection, you fucking fascist.

>>137635040
>if you had a huge crowd of people standing in front of your car, while you move at them, and not smashing it up with bats yet

i'll hit the brakes until full stop and then either do nothing or move backwards, depending on circumstances

>>137635123

there was nothing behind him -- if he feared being trapped he could have backed up first, like he did after accelerating deliberated into the crowd because he wanted to crush some people to death

but he was on a power trip and now he will be eligible for lethal injection -- what all klan and neo-nazis deserve

What a Country!

>>137634303
in what universe is your body getting damage makes it okay to shoot a crowed

He's an actor. Soros wants to silent the alt-right.

>>137635236
>cnns narrative

"peaceful protesters" don't carry bats you retard

>>137630317
You forgot the liberal rule dummy. When someone plows a car in to people your meant to start a "not all X" hashtag and ensure that they can keep doing it.

>>137633818

He's flooring it down that street, the guy swings the bat after he gets down there.

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Maybe right now you can only say that we don't have enough information to jump to conclusions and we should wait for the justice system to do its job?

Or would you prefer a kneejerk emotional reaction which fits the alt-lefts current narrative?

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>>137630317
There's no proof. They just want to see how gullible people are.

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None. He thoroughly screwed over the White Nationalists and Trump. He's a cringelord getting charged with terrorism forever branding White Nationalists as terrorists. People treating him like a martyr motivate the general public to backlash against their movement.

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>>137635123
He wasn't though, the footage clearly shows his car wasn't surrounded at all. Even if a single person did hit it, driving his car into a large group of people was not in self-defence, he wasn't surrounded.

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>>137633818
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>>137633818
ANON
Max out your volume / turn on headphones and honestly tell me, does he hit the gas at 0:02? Or at 0:04?

>>137630317
the whole narrative surrounding this guy is fake news, it's just a bunch of antifa cuck shills looking for someone to blame, so they found some random guy and want to see him punished for doing literally nothing
like i said, fake news

>>137634303

Pretty nice car desu. Why wouldn't you defend it?

>>137634303

>crowed

Poor bird. Kakarww

>>137635273
He was surrounded as he plummeted into people, though. There is no way for anyone to make that argument as we do have video evidence. I'm not an alt left supporter, fagboy.
I actually shill for the Confederacy because of the Dukes of Hazard and I'm small town kid. So fuck off.

>>137635372
So do it, and see what happens.

>>137635398
That's the equivalent of talking about how intent to shoot someone makes it okay for you to kill them in self defense. And you mention how selling loose cigarrates is actually, in fact, illegal.
How the fuck does it relate.
The issue is not the damage of the car, but actually surrounding the person violently to cause damage to him which makes it okay, because IT IS ACTUALLY LIFE THREATENING.

>>137635557
In the common sensical one, because you have no reason to lose your life to please a crowd.

>>137630741
>get hit in the back by one guy with a bat
>this excuses slamming into a crowd

>>137635392
None of those videos show him to be innocent though, you can clearly see him aim and drive forward right into the crowd. He wasn't surrounded at all.

>>137636110

And there it is.
The left attacks cars.
They block innocent people from traveling.
They are selfish, vile, disgusting trash.
Every time they protest they make every commuter hate their fucking guts.
And I'm going to tell you liberals something.
If ANY OF YOU ever so much as touch my vehicle for ANY reason, I'm committing a felony . Just like this guy.
Understand? Get out....of...the....street.

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>>137633818
Pretty much as i was expecting, Soros shills push "he dindu nuffin" narrative in defence of terrorist and ignore actual evidence.

>>137635967
argument could be made that he was merely trying to scare the protesters out of his way until he got hit, then panicked and tried to accelerate through the crowd, not seeing the two stopped cars. once he hits them multiple videos show several people hitting his car with sticks and bats. at that point he legit panics and backs the fuck out of there fast as he can.

>>137636877

>And I'm going to tell you liberals something.
If ANY OF YOU ever so much as touch my vehicle for ANY reason, I'm committing a felony .

Sure you will.

>>137634682
Can anyone post the video this anon is talking about?

I want proof that the guy was being attacked before he ran into protesters.

Wheres the proof he was being attacked?

>>137630317
If they were peaceful protesters then he just drove peacefully along some other street.

Eh, not all that much to be honest. There's not a huge amount of evidence it was premeditated either though. Him fleeing the scene doesn't count against him - he would have been killed. But he should have turned himself into the cops right away so that won't look good for him.

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>>137630317
it was him?

>>137637450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weg3fP0lZmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GocaQlRUNoU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJhmPJX8Aps

Since there seems to be no footage whatsoever until after he got onto the street, what we have is this. You can see his car is hit before he hits anyone, and then he swerves and brakes, but that's not necessarily definitive evidence that it was or was not self-defense.

>>137636667
I never claimed the driver was innocent. I say those protesters were anything but peaceful.

He did it in the wrong Charlottesville
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2017-04-28/north-carolina-house-votes-to-protect-drivers-who-hit-protesters

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>>137630317
who cares

wish he killed them all. mas respect to anyone who actually does some action

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There is no proof he was even the driver.

>>137633818

Obviously, the driver was being attacked and did what he needed to do to escape the very violent attack.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WRK03q76GKU

>>137633818
you can hear him revving at 0:02 but his car doesn't speed up much. you can still hear a car like that revving even when they're driving through a parking lot, you can see him at 0:02 and you can see that he doesn't speed up until after he's hit.

>>137637823
Ok but if neither of these 3 videos shows him being attacked, how are people saying such? That's all I'm asking.

>>137636667
They didn't even have a permit to march so it's safe to assume he was just driving and stumbled into them.

>>137630317
Who cares? A dead commie is the best commie.

>>137638341
>you can hear him revving at 0:02
Means he has no intention to stop. Therefore it's an attack, because at that moment he wasn't surrounded and in danger yet.

>>137636613
>>get hit in the back by one guy with a bat
>>slam forward into car, crowd with bats is immediately striking back of car, making it likely they were coming for him *before* he went forward
Thanks for the input, you can go back to fucking that kangaroo now abo.
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>>137630317
/pol/ says he a good boy who dindu nuffin. The media says he's a terrorist. Both narratives are retarded.

/pol/ thinks that some guy hitting his bumper with a bat gives him the right to plow through 20 people. Even if he did act in panic, he did so in the stupidest way possible. He rammed right into the car in front of him and just kept going.

At the same time the narrative that he acted with malicious intent is presumptuous, but certainly not helped by his history as a Nazi sympathizer and the contents of his facebook pace (pic related).

Regardless of the truth, if his lawyers are halfway decent they'll use the panic narrative to try negotiate a plea bargain for lesser charges, ones without intent that carry lesser sentences. He's certainly going to do time though. People like >>137631749 who think you can just plow through a crowd of people, kill 1 and injure 19, and just walk away because you tell the judge you were scared are retarded.

>>137638653
>Ok but if neither of these 3 videos shows him being attacked
Second video, at 1:57 can see the car being struck, happens quick.

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If he was trying to run people over, how come you can see his brake lights flashing, until he's hit, when he accelerates?

Obviously being hit caused him to panic and touch the gas pedal
He reached a top speed of around 25mph. He was driving a muscle car built for linear acceleration, a touch on the gas pedal is all that's needed.

This was the fault of the left wing communists illegally blocking the street wielding deadly weapons. Setting up this power keg situation. When a boulder rolls down a hill, do you blame the person who leaned on it? Or the person who set up the boulder in that precarious location?

>>137639292
>/pol/ thinks that some guy hitting his bumper with a bat gives him the right to plow through 20 people.
No, it's that he was being surrounded by a mob of armed people. They are on him right after he hits, like they were headed for him *before* that, not like they were reacting to the collision.

>>137638802
I'm confused, the part where his brake lights are on, in these pics, should be in the video. Where is it? Is that after he revs where you say at 0:02 or before?

>>137638802
>Therefore it's an attack, because at that moment he wasn't surrounded and in danger yet.
Not like he could have looked back and seen a bunch of armed thugs coming right at him, the ones that were on him right after impact.

>>137640517
>part where his brake lights are on, in these pics
I still don't know tbqh. Impossible to see this on video, but should be somewhere down the road, after he revs at 0:02 but before the moment he was hit at 0:04

>>137639998
>No, it's that he was being surrounded by a mob of armed people. They are on him right after he hits, like they were headed for him *before* that, not like they were reacting to the collision.

No you idiot, the crowd only converges on the car after he plows through the crowd. It was a reaction to him plowing through the crowd. Aside from a bumper tap with a bat, no one else in the crowd is messing with the car prior to the plow.

>>137639822
Watch >>137633818. The point where he brakes is way before the bat hit, before the 1 second mark. From the 2 second mark onward, you don't see brake lights. The bat hit occurs at the 3 second mark. Also whoever made this image is an idiot. Compare the mark on the top circled as "damage from club" to the bottom image where the club is actually hitting.

>>137633818

>/pol/ unironically does the "he a good boy, he dindu nuffin" routine when it's one of their own

Every time. Just admit this fucker slammed his foot down on the gas, he wanted to hurt them, and he did. No, it wasn't self-defense. No, it wasn't anybody else's fault. One of your own fucked up and murdered someone.

>>137641874
CORRECTION:
It's right BEFORE he revvs up at 0:02, off camera. Proof is backpack blonde guy (seen here >>137639822
) – when camera turns at car again we see him just jumping on a sidewalk, while on photo he is still running in front of a car. Seems James liked him for some reason and saved his life.

>>137638885
>fucking that kangaroo
Correction, we fuck sheep

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>>137630317
None

>>137630317
IF THE BRAKE IS LIT, YOU MUST ACQUIT

>>137642494
>Just admit this fucker slammed his foot down on the gas, he wanted to hurt them, and he did
Just admit you have omniscience and know what the guy was thinking? Not recognize that making a statement like that discredits you thoroughly? Nobody knows that except the guy, claiming otherwise is either dishonest, or fucking retarded as hell. Like 'knowing' that allah is supreme, or jesus really existed, nobody knows; those that claim otherwise are to be completely distrusted for objective information.

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>>137638125
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DEAL WITH THIS PIC CLEARLY SHOWING SOMEONE WHO ISNT HIM IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT? WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL??

>>137642946
>IF THE BRAKE IS LIT, YOU MUST ACQUIT
The car got hit, commies deserve that shit.

>>137642628
meh, well I still don't feel like the revving makes that big of a difference. He revved before he got hit, and in the picture where he's getting hit everybody's still just standing there in front of his car like they don't expect him to keep coming, so I doubt he was moving that fast. Time will tell though.

>>137643087
>WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DEAL WITH THIS PIC CLEARLY SHOWING SOMEONE WHO ISNT HIM IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT? WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL??
That information is part of an ongoing federal investigation, you wouldn't want to interfere with that, would you boy?

>>137642947
>Just admit you have omniscience and know what the guy was thinking?

I don't need omniscience you fucking retard. We have video footage.

He slams his foot down on the gas, the car makes a loud squeeling sound. He's giving his intention to drive through them. He breaks briefly, hoping they'll scatter. When they don't, he slams down on the gas and murders one of them.

There's no "interpretation" to be had. This is as clear cut as it gets. He wasn't in any danger until he made his intent clear to plow into the crowd by accelerating when he was within striking distance. Any dumb fag hitting his car with a bat WHILE he was accelerating is irrelevant. He had no reason to fear for his life at that point. He chose to warn with noise, and then accelerate.

If this dumb faggot was black you'd all be saying he's a murderer, but you're desperately trying to do damage control since he was a /pol/tard and NOBODY is buying it. We can see it clear as fucking day, retard. No amount of obfuscation is going to allow you to bury this one. You guys fucked up.

>>137630317
/pol here's the real deal

His airbags probably went off during the incident.

All his lawyer has to do is bufuddle when the airbags went off, and try and prove they went off when the women hit his car with a bat.

That's why in the second photo you can clearly see his brake lights on and him still accelerating, because he was confused disoriented and was actually trying to stop.

Then....

If the police do not go after the women right now, the lawyer can say the police never considered this and pinned the crime on him from day 1. Which is a good defense sometimes. Guilty or not prosecution needs to find the women and charge or ticket her.

What's crazy is this could have actually happened....

>>137639822
Your own picture shows the damage wasnt from the stick are you that delusional that you can't see that?
>note that people are already running and only by running were they saved until the psycho sped up and got others

>>137630317
What proof is there against it?

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>>137635236
If that was his objective then why didn't he just keep going with it? Why reverse away and run when he could have gone back into the crowd?

>>137638125
>>137643087

What the fuck are you even talking about? That clearly IS him. Are you blind?

>>137643579

>he thinks a judge/jury is going to buy that story with all of the video footage available

Top kek.

>>137643475
>he wanted to hurt them, and he did. No, it wasn't self-defense. No, it wasn't anybody else's fault.
>I don't need omniscience
To know his motive or what he was thinking? Yes, you would. To know there was nothing off camera involved? Yes, you would. Are you dishonest, do you have poor english skills, or are you just retarded?

>>137643804
See:
>>137633818

Kinda hard to argue that away. Even harder when your audience isn't /pol/.

people forget about Reginald Denny !

>>137643804
>What proof is there against it?
Unsupported assertions from dishonest posters.

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>>137630317

pic related.

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>>137631749
here it is faggots

>>137643828
Doesn't look like him to me. Actually, it looks more like a Bogdanoff

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>>137631749
have some more

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>>137644190
You don't need to know his motive or thinking
Only the facts of the situation and what a reasonable person would do in it
Would a reasonable person go at a fast pace towards a crowd?
No
Would a reasonable person react to a solitary stick strick when he is entering a crowd to then further sped up and strike members of the crowd?
No
Is his claim of self-defense valid?
No
He could claim insanity because if he though he was acting in self-defense he might have some thinking impairment

>>137633818
you don't need to use the word tier in every sentence

>>137644757
>26mi/hr
>fast

pick one faggot

>>137644190
>To know his motive or what he was thinking?

A motive isn't necessary for a conviction you fucking idiot. Stop watching television shows. If prosecutors had to prove motive, nobody would ever go to jail, because it's almost impossible to do so. Motive is used to frame a case, not determine guilt.

Your argument is as dumb as saying that you can get acquitted of murder if you claim "I was only swinging the knife to kill a fly that was buzzing around him sir. Honest! I had good intentions swinging a knife at him! That I wound up stabbing him 20 times is an unfortunate accident. lol u can't send me to jail if u can't prove I WANTED to murder him. ur not omniscient!"

That is literally your level of retardation.

With all of the video footage we have available, there is zero doubt of his guilt, and none of your hemming and hawing is going to make a difference. He wasn't in any imminent danger. There is no way a judge gives him self-defense when nobody was even around his car when he initially peeled out. There is no way a judge is going to say it's okay to plow into a crowd of 40 people ahead of you because 1 guy assaults your car when he could have easily just backed out or whatever else. Even if he WERE attacked, that does not give you license to murder a person and injure 19 more.

Just fuck off already. You have no argument, and your /pol/tard logic has no place in the real world.

>>137636877
Look at this internet tough guy over here.

>>137630317
none, he's cunt & due to acting like a cunt some misguided do-gooder died.

>>137644757
>You don't need to know his motive or thinking
>Only the facts of the situation
There was a violent mob that the police weren't dealing with
>and what a reasonable person would do in it
most people would be afraid, this interferes with logic and reason. This is a 18+ board.

>>137644478
that's a tail light not a brake light.

>>137639822

lmao the bat isnt even touching the spot that is damaged.

>>137644526
It is, without a doubt, 100% him. I'm genuinely not sure how you could think otherwise.

>>137645054
>If prosecutors had to prove motive, nobody would ever go to jail, because it's almost impossible to do so.
Well, except a lot of stupid niggers will just blurt shit out. I've been in jail once, sitting in room alone with nigger. Asked him what he was in for "I killed somebody, I mean they say I killed someone"

>>137644858
Yes fast enough to injure or kill and of course he was going much faster through the crowd
Rethink your ideology if it has you defending a mommy hitting psychopath on meds who is so useless he flunks out of Army basic training
>>137645202
>violent mob
But none of the other cars were being hit
>most people would be afraid, this interferes with logic and reason. This is a 18+ board.
Possibly but those other cars didn't ram through the crowd
Maybe just maybe it has to do with the fact that Fields is a psychopath Spencerite scum who hits his mother

>>137630317
T. Sandy hook Truther

How about you take a gun and fucking kill yourself for a change?

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>>137645537
for a evil nazi trying to kill people, he was sure going slower than the islamic truck of peace.

fuck off redditor, it's easy to tell who you are

why can't we all just calm down and be glad its over.

>>137645537
>Maybe just maybe it has to do with the fact that Fields is a psychopath Spencerite scum who hits his mother
and maybe it has to do with antifa being anti white scum that attack people rights. OR MAYBE NONE OF THAT IS RELEVANT TO WHAT HAPPENED. Maybe I should have sympathy for violent jackasses that block streets and hate me, but I don't. Go play in traffic, and I hope you get run over. And nothing of value is lost.

>>137645802
who knows what exact combination of neuronal synaptic firing led him to push his foot down on the gas, anger, stupidity, fear, a bit of all three ?

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Digits decide the jury verdict on this guy

>>137644757
>You don't need to know his motive or thinking
I don't know them, neither does the dishonest fuck who asserted he did. I don't need to know the motives of the people with weapons blocking the road and attacking him, or your motives. Fuck them, fuck you, fuck all enemies of free speech.

WE'RE TAKING /POL/ BACK FROM THE SHILLS LADS
GET IN HERE
>>137641245
>>137641245
>>137641245

>>137646194
I don't know, but these shills are telling us what to believe as if they are all psychiatrists and if you disagree you're an evil nazi. Really makes you think

>>137630317
I doubt the guy did this on purpose too, but can you really call it self-defence if he didn't.

>guy hits your car with a flag pole
>respond by planking it into a crowd of people

That's not how a responsible driver reacts. Shouldn't that at least be reckless driving?

He grew up without a dad, no wonder he's fucked up, my father is the same, now that still doesn't put all the blame on him.

>>137645862
>why can't we all just calm down
Because he didn't kill all that many commie scum.
>be glad its over.
Because it's just beginning.

>>137645802
Nah he went through that crowd pretty fast
Just because he is incompetent
As seen by failing Army basic training doesn't mean he wasn't murderous
>>137646020
Well at least be honest and say you want your opponents run over instead of trying to hilarious claim self-defense and make yourself look either delusional or a liar
>>137646360
again I appreciate the honesty
If you hate your opponents and want them dead or whatever just say that don't try and lie to yourself or others

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>>137643087

It's not faked.

Here's the original: http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/confederate-monuments-prote1.jpg

Check it yourself, load that file into Photoshop or some other useful program, and tweak around with contrast and so on, you'll see it's the same. .

>>137630741
Easy on the carrots, bugs

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>>137630317

>>137646020
>lose argument
>claim people deserve murder because you don't like it
>think that's somehow saving face

Nice work. Truly, improving the image of the right wing. Don't condemn some asshole that murdered people who weren't threatening him. It's their fault! It's okay to murder people that jaywalk!

Idiot. I HATE people that block traffic. Hate them. I think we should have more severe penalties for those that do it and I think it SHOULD be legal for drivers to run over people blocking traffic or standing in the road if the driver gives them ample warning that they're driving through. But that's not the law right now, and that does not give this guy license to murder people.

The longer you defend this asshole and try to excuse his actions, the longer you are a literal "he dindu nuffin!" nigger. That's exactly what you're acting like right now.

>>137646684
>yes officer, he was following the traffic law, but that doesn't mean he wanted to kill every civilian on the road
need to try harder than that

>>137646899
Really wish they yanked him outta there

>>137647043
why so they could kill him?

>>137646496
>my dumb opinion must be correct because the people telling me I'm wrong are not being very nice about it...

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>>137630317
https://youtu.be/mXHdILOBKf4?t=54s
https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@lavater/george-soros-birthday-present-the-charlottesville-white-nationalist-car-attack-hoax-nothing-more-than-a-movie-production

>>137647195
>i-if you don't t-think like I-i do you're e-evil!!@!#!@#
kek

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>>137630317
Peaceful?

>>137646941
Nigga if this was a woman crashing into some MRAs cops would't even arrest her... the media really fucks with peoples minds.

>>137647040
What are you talking about?
>>137647195
That's the type of delusion Spencerites have

>>137646899
fucking scumbag. they should have lynched him.
where are all the gun packing folks when you need them?

>>137647639
>they should have lynched him.
They tried, he just drove off quick. Worked pretty good the second time he tried.

>>137646502
It is, at best, manslaughter. That is the weakest charge he will get(which is basically in laymen's terms "accidental murder"). He is extremely unlikely to get that, though, because his intentions in this regard don't really matter. Whether he was trying to reach 88 mph and go back to the future, he wanted them dead, or he panicked, he will be found guilty of murder. You can't get away with murder just because you panic. "Fear of life" has to involve legitimate shit, like your car is actually surrounded by people who are imminently going to harm you and there is no way to save yourself except by harming those blocking you in. Since none of the video footage presents that PRIOR to his peeling out and charging at the crowd, he has no defense.

/pol/ is just going to have to accept that not all of their followers or adherents are innocent little lambs and that he did, in fact, do sumthin and he ain't a good boy.

>>137647561
because he was going at an acceptable road speed, you can't prove his intent on that alone

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for you faggots who haven't seen this yet, you may find it interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0_vGhASjtU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0_vGhASjtU

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0_vGhASjtU
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0_vGhASjtU

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0_vGhASjtU

>>137645334
do you even look at the picture you fucking retard? it clearly indicates the difference between the bat attack and curb damage

>>137638301
>they'll never get murder 2 because they can't prove intent
the tears will be glorious when this racist fuck walks because commies got too greedy on the charge and the video of the nigger attacking first with the bat

>>137644321
Oh yeah totally because it shows what happens right before he tries to flee through the crowd.

>>137644569
get hit by a dodge at 25 miles per hour if u know the math u know mass*acceleration. challenger about 4,000lbs. so about 83000 lbs of force. 40 tons

>>137647535
Yes, they would. Your victim complex does not match with reality.

>>137648143
Are you retarded or pretending to be? That question wasn't if it was enough to kill someone, the question is is that speed enough to conclude without a doubt that it was premeditated murder. Stop making americans look stupid

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>>137644488
checked
meet gavin maccleery with pro re nata (see my post about 20 up with a different pro re nata guy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewxba5-vdhA

>>137647291
Not once in this thread did I say anyone was evil. I wouldn't because I don't believe in inherent good or evil. I said you're stupid, which is true. I also didn't stutter, but I realize you have to desperately try to make me appear nervous or weak since you're too dumb to actually formulate a point.

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>>137630317

>What proof is there that this illegal was trying to have a better life for his family?

>>137647786
>Since none of the video footage
that shows he was blocked on three sides, and does not show the direction he came from; and therefore is missing a key piece of evidence. Thank you detective dumbass, think I'll wait for more evidence before asserting bullshit.

Who puts him behind the wheel? A freemason trooper? Every actor in this event is a government agent.

>>137647790
>because he was going at an acceptable road speed, you can't prove his intent on that alone
Are you also a psycho like Fields that you would run over a person jaywalking and come before the judge and say
>b-but he was walking illegally I can't be charged

>>137648564
>i-if you don't believe e-everything I say yy-y-y-you're dumb!?@!@!@
wow, that's even more pathetic

>>137648929
Pick an analogy that makes sense and try again

>>137648002
It does. It shows no noticeable damage to his car. Nobody is even relatively close to his car at that point. Unless you're trying to argue that an angry crowd surrounded his car, waved their weapons threateningly without touching anything, and then all backed away and hid for a perfect camera shot.

Of course, I wouldn't put it past /pol/tards to try and make such a dumbshit argument, but that's not going to fly in court. Might as well claim the menacing people he was fleeing teleported out of the camera shot because they're wizards. YOU NEVER KNOW, DUDE! HURRR.

>>137648929
>>b-but he was walking illegally I can't be charged
Sorry son, we have pedestrian right of way laws, you are 100% responsible.

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This video was filmed by BRENNAN GILMORE...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OieWBuIyXmA

>>137630317
This law abiding citizen obeying police commands was thrust into a chaotic situation by violent criminals. He's also a dumbass who endangered a bunch of people leading to a death but not a murderer or terrorist.

>>137636123
>People never panic
Mmmk.

>>137649184
>Nobody is even relatively close to his car at that point.
Until one guy hits his car, then he hits the crowd. Are you pretending not to notice that still? Or stuck on pretending like him being attacked has no bearing on his actions? Or have you come up with another stage of denial. He was trying to drive down the street, they were illegally blocking the street after gathering to deny the other groups civil rights. Fuck them, and fuck you for standing up for the enemies of free speech.

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>>137649184

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weg3fP0lZmE

>>137648391
Are YOU retarded? You seem to think that because it's a somewhat low number(30mph) that it must mean he's not guilty. You're a fucking idiot. That he broke briefly before again accelerating into them at 30MPH is irrelevant. He could have just stopped and NOT plowed into them. He's not going to get acquitted because he briefly stepped on the brake after squeeling his tires and accelerating toward the crowd.

So yes, that speed is enough to conclude murder. He could have been going 20 and it's still murder. There is not some "safe speed" you can plow into a crowd at to get acquitted, retard.

>Oh! Judge! I'm not culpable for murder because I was only going 10mph! I had no intent to run over my neighbor's son and kill him because my car wasn't going very fast!

Jesus fucking christ. You guys are so fucking god damn stupid.

>>137634303
in the one that you dont want your window browken and to be dragged out into a riotous mob with no law enforcement officers in sight where you will be brutally beaten to death? too young for the LA riots faggot?

>>137636110

If the brakes are lit, you must acquit.

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>>137649654
Hope that innocent driver being attacked by the mob is okay.

>>137649893
>road acceptable speed is 25mh/hr
how does it feel that you're wrong?

>>137648972
If you can't present a decent logical argument to refute my points, yes. You are a retard. You are trying to defend your retarded opinions by saying "other people called me dumb or evil so that must mean I'm right", which is like a first grader's defense.

>>137650102
>repeats himself
sad

you see the dodge rolls thru slowly beat to hell and the trooper looks over likes it's nothing and keeps walking. where was the trooper headed? was the call over the radio at that point? police work would have been to go after the smashed vehicle. it doesn't add up.

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>>137630317
>>137649957
https://youtu.be/keHJ6a9fcwY

>>137630317
A diagnosed schyzo gets his car hit by bats, it's a miracle only one person died (may that poor girl rest in peace by the way).

Whatever "side" you're on, someone died way too early. It could have been your sister so have a bit of respect for her even if you disagree with her views.

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>>137647811
jesus christ too obvious
that's the way (((they))) operate

>>137634303
The one where Reginald Denny stopped for a crowd and had his skull bashed in.

The one where the crowd was armed with weapons.

This retard will get off.

>>137630317
>peaceful protestors
>blocking traffic and armed

>>137630317
proof he wasn't. sorry brother that burden is on you

>You are a retard. You are trying to defend your retarded opinions by saying "other people called me dumb or evil so that must mean I'm right"
He's a Spencerite
He's either a 50 year loser or a underage retard Fields or Dylan clone
One lost Modern Warfare match away from killing a random nigger

>>137634303
Remember that video of the car, the Range Rover, getting surrounded by bikers in New York? That boy floored it and ran over a couple bikers, crippling one of them, fuck all happened to him, just mobbing his car and banging the windows was enough reason for him to floor it.

>>137650775
I'm going to go with the whole speeding into a crowd of several hundred people a few hundred feet away with tires screeching thing as my proof.

>>137649648
>Until one guy hits his car, then he hits the crowd.

AFTER he accelerates towards them and squeels his tires, dumbshit. He did not have his foot on the brake when the ONE guy swung a bat at his car going 30mph toward a crowd 6 feet away. That bat swing is not what drove him towards the crowd. He was already advancing towards them threateningly when he had no reason to, and he has no legal defense for his actions.

>Fuck them, and fuck you for standing up for the enemies of free speech.

Fuck you for defending a murderer because you can't ever admit that one of your own did something fucking stupid, wrong, and insane. Your mind has rotted from too much /pol/ and you try to defend every single fucking thing these idiots do because you think it's an "us vs them" thing and you have to force yourself to make everyone on the right look like an innocent little angel. You are indistinguishable from a nigger mom defending her violent, murderous son.

You are wrong about this. It's not in question. He will be found guilty. No more (You)'s. I've thoroughly pushed your shit in and there's no point in discussing anything else with you. My advice is learn not to be a fucking mindless drone and distinguish when it's a good time to defend someone that aligns with you politically and when it's fucking dumb to protect them. Not everything is a smear job, not everything is a lie. Some right wing people are just stupid, violent, and not worth defending. James Fields is such an example.

total BS. a whole crew of troopers think nothing of car that looks like it was just in a hit and run. freemason hoax.

>>137647811
He parked the car alone and surrendered.

>>137639998
you can see in the video some of them have machetes when attacking his car.

>>137649654

Yeah, he plowed into them, and then they damaged it. Dumbass.

>>137630317
Thats up to the law to decide. Not you.

>>137650059

>If I'm not speeding, it's okay if I run people over

Retards. Nothing but retards in this thread. Luckily, the whole world isn't /pol/ and isn't this retarded, so this murderous faggot will be put behind bars.

So the van hit people first. The medics were present, then the dodge plows in?? So the medics radio police immediately and these troopers hear it over the radio and look over at see a smashed car and don't immediately radio it in and follow?

>>137650552
>A diagnosed schyzo gets his car hit by bats

*hit by bats after he peeled out in his car, drove at 30mph toward a crowd of people, and actively hit them

Please stop trying to sell this false narrative. You can fool /pol/tards because they would believe it if you told them that someone stabbed him through the window before he plowed into the crowd, but you're not going to fool the public with that when there's video of the incident.

There is no evidence that anybody hit has car with a bat until he was already accelerating towards the crowd and mere feet from them.

>>137637259
If his lawyer's idea of a defense is that he got cold feet and then accidentally hit them anyways, he doesn't deserve his job.

>>137651698
>>137651347
Hey I'm here arguing against them as well
I hope when this guy is convicted they learn from the experience
Maybe they should go back and actually learn about the Zimmerman trial

>>137650552
>didn't read thread
SAD!

>>137651698
There are pictures of his car getting hit before he touches anybody.

Doesn't change the fact that he is a schyzo too.

>>137635236
Evidence of a person’s character or character trait is not admissible to prove that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character or trait.

You can't use character evidence

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>>137630317
>What proof is there that this nazi was acting in self defense by plowing his car into dozens of peaceful protesters?

There's very little, a slightly deceptively edited video that even fooled me for awhile is all.

He done it on purpose.

I still hope he get off somehow, fuck the alt-left.

>>137651347
>straw man
SAD

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN 2.0

>>137650893
These two incidents are not even in the same ballpark, idiot. That guy had his car surrounded by bikers, deliberately slowed in front of him to get him to stop his vehicle, and then the bikers opened his door and tried to pull him out while completely surrounding his vehicle. They make multiple more attempts to stop him and yank him out of his car/assault his vehicle.

This guy wasn't surrounded. He had room to back out, or leave. There is no evidence to suggest he was being threatened in such a manner that would justify him driving that far into a crowd of unrelated people.

The guy in that situation only ran over the bikers who were directly threatening him and preventing his vehicle from moving, and they had overtly physically threatened him. James Fields has nothing, and he will not get away with it. He is toast, and he deserves it.

>>137630317
Prove that he is a "nazi" and prove that he struck the 'crowd' with malicious intent. It's not "guilty before innocent" you commie puke.

anons, the window was rolled down to get a fake picture of the driver. Why would he roll the window while fleeing. a goog criminal would use the tint to flee. wakey pol

>>137652271
This could not be less comparable to that situation. First and most simply, we have video evidence that James Fields was not being attacked when he plowed into a crowd of people.

>>137651698
someone worked out the distance he traveled and the time it took to cover it from the video and he was going 22mph as he approached the crowd. Hardly actions of someone intent on committing a terrorist attack with his car.

>>137652353
this

>>137630317
>this thread again

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>>137630317

why would the trooper look over and not radio in that he sees the dodge and attempt to get direction headed?? why do we hear cheers as the dodge rolls by? why does the driver have the window rolled down now? as if ready for a picture.

>>137652034
See:
>>137652187

>There are pictures of his car getting hit before he touches anybody.

When he is accelerating at them at 30mph, and LITERAL FEET from them. Jesus christ. We're talking about some kid hitting his car with a bat when he was LESS THAN A SECOND from plowing into the crowd at 30mph. It's not like he was like "Oh wow, I felt that hit! I was going to stop on a dime, but that one hit sent me over the edge and now I have to drive 5 more feet and kill people!"

Grow a fucking brain, holy fucking shit.

>>137652271
Zimmerman was justified. This asshole is nowhere near it. If it is Zimmerman 2.0, "whites" are on the wrong side this time.

>>137652294
I just watched the NY video, no one tries to open the door when they initially swarm him and he drives over them, someone hits the car window.
Any way, what about the mob with baseball bats that magically appeared behind him? Or the guy swinging at this car as he approached the crowd? Why did he brake? Why didn't he mount the pavement?Why didn't he swerve to try and hit people? Why didn't he go back for seconds after he reverses?
You see, your story fits the facts less than our story does. You claim a deliberate act of terrorism, it's up to you to prove it.

>>137637739
he certainly looks like he's scared out of his mind and fearing for his life in that picture.
That's not at all the image of a calm, collected, cold blooded murderer, no siree.

>>137653320
You're way too emotionally invested in this. You need to learn that sometimes people do shitty things. You've got this massively unhealthy "us vs them" mentality that you feel the need to stretch into every piece of your life. Just because someone aligns with you politically does not make then infallible or incapable of injustice. Just accept that a white nationalist killed a person and move on.

>>137645282
>that's a tail light not a brake light.
>Drives autisticly on the wrong side of the road
British road safety expert

>>137653336
Yeah you're right my bad

>>137635236
Well, he didn't do a good job of running people over; there were many Anti-fas he could have hit and never went for them and you can see him braking and turning to the right to actually avoid them.

>>137653336
So why did he brake?

>>137653618
>>137653336
I thought the brake lights were lit but apparently they were not.

>>137646899
This can be seen as self defense
They would have killed him

>>137653738
He did brake. >>137644488

>>137630317
You're an antisemite for attacking this poor six million chosenite for what he did at the jew run "White" larping event.

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>>137630317
Does anyone have the vid of the camera angle from the right side of the street as opposed to the left? Someone posted vid yesterday of a close up but from the right side of the street and it really allowed us to see his car getting swarmed after he crashed. It was taken off YouTube though which is pretty suspicious. Has anyone else seen it and know what I'm talking about???

>>137652353
>intent matters! you can't be guilty of murder if you didn't intend to do it!

Top kek. I guess Varg is innocent after all.

But no, dumbshit, we already went over this. The video is enough to prove malicious intent. If he didn't have malicious intent, he would have stopped, backed out, or just not accelerated towards the crowd. He would not have peeled out his tires threateningly. He chose to do those things, and chose to run them over.

As far as "nazi", only partial proof(sporting a krieger avatar among right wing posts), but he is at the very least a /pol/tard with racist inclinations:>>137639292

You guys aren't going to win this one. You're better off trying to downplay it than argue his innocence, because he is so clearly guilty as shit.

>>137630317
Let's not forget this was mob action on the part of volatile, enraged, and armed degenerates. Lady, it was the company you kept that killed you. A true shame.

>>137654253
So why did he brake?

>>137652544
Oh cool someone figured out how fast he was going? And he was a 4chan expert and everything? And going 22mph means it's okay to run people over? Awesome, thanks dude. Awesome update. Maybe if we can get some other total expert in this thread to confirm he was going 15mph, he'll seem less murdery and guilty.

My eyes are open, dude. If people are driving slowly, they're not guilty of murder. Just an innocent lamb. You won't mind if I run you over slowly. :)

>>137630317
There isn't. As a movement, we apologize on behalf the /pol/lacks that feel the need to defend him out of comraderie, but he committed murder and thus this is an action condemned by our movement. Larperers will make edgy comments but ignore them. Not approved by us or our movement for a future secured for our grandchildren and their grandchildren.

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>>137649342
just saw this dude in VA

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>>137653739
>>137653739
>>137653739

>>137654749
Aww, shill sad that nobody is buying his lies kek

Here, assuming that you're retarded and not a shill, this explanation is something even idiots can follow
>street speed 25mh/hr
>car was going 25mh/hr
>car hits person
>therefore you can't say the driver's intent was to hit people since he was going the speed he was supposed to in a local road

contrast with
>german market local road, 30 km/hr speed
>islamic truck driven by peaceful muslims 100km/hr

try harder

>>137654749
So why did he brake?

>>137654781
>leaf

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>>137633818
Your 'witness' and 'filmed the attack' man is cia. Staged hoax car attack, designed to make the right look bad, it's a psyop.

>>137648143
Wrong, that's how much energy the car carries. If it transfered all of that energy, it would instantly stop. The force imparted is the delta between speed before the impact and speed after the impact.

>>137653586
I could say the same to you. You are not a judge, jury, or forensic analyst. Just because you disagree with his supposed white nationalist views does not mean he wasn't provoked into driving erratically by violent protesters.

>>137654253
He is a schyzo, he doesn't act like a normalbperson at all.

>>137653419
>I just watched the NY video, no one tries to open the door when they initially swarm him and he drives over them, someone hits the car window.

You're wrong right off the bat so I'm not interested in reading the rest of your stupid shit. This case went to court and the details are readily available online that clarify the entire incident, and an off duty cop was with the group of bikers, and they did try to open the door. So fuck off and learn to do your homework, faggot.

>You claim a deliberate act of terrorism, it's up to you to prove it.

I have proven that he is guilty of murder throughout this thread many, many, many times. You're free to peruse all of my posts if you want. My arguments are stronger. You have nothing but questions based on inaccurate recounts of the event, incorrect assumptions, and, as usual with conspiracy fags, hoping that if you pile up enough inaccuracies that you can somehow paint a different picture of the incident that will fool people. Luckily, courts are EXTREMELY anal about details, and nothing about this incident is in favor of this murdering asshole. But hey, at least you can jerk each other off and pretend like this murdering asshole "was a good boy that dindu nuffin" in your little corner of the internet, all while ruining your political reputation among moderates for protecting such a person.

He is guilty of murder. He will be going to jail.

>>137630317
he couldn't see with the blizzard of snowflakes in the way

>>137655691
Okay. Let's remember that the next time a vehicle plows into a crowd in Europe and everyone's yelling "why won't they say Islamic terrorist? Coulter's law! Obviously a shitskin!"

>>137655388
You do realize Washington DC is RIGHT NEXT TO Virginia, right? I knew you /pol/ cunts were dumb, but not THAT dumb.

>>137654749
>And going 22mph means it's okay to run people over?
Nope, it just means he's not a terrorist.
Why did he brake?

>>137653713
Who cares? Even if I couldn't answer this question, it doesn't matter. What matters is he didn't brake and stay on the brake. He chose to continue and run people over. If I stop mid stabbing motion before I murder someone, am I suddenly not guilty of murder? Am I suddenly possibly innocent?

Even if, best case scenario, he had second thoughts, he still chose to commit murder. He was not in imminent danger.

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>>137630741
The MSM said so, al sharpton went on PBS and said all people who went to that protest for removing a statue (he forgot that part) were nazis, and that the majority of trump voters are white nationalists.
>If the media says so, the sheeple will eat it up

>>137630317
Did nobody get the memo they already declared this guy a diagnosed Schizo and is receiving meds in prison?

100% likely to be found unfit to stand trial, no point in arguing his actions or lack thereof, since he's quite literally and completely crazy as fuck.

james (((bloom))) is a schizo jew

>>137655533
>So why did he brake?
Changed his mind at the last second but it was too late, or he didn't see the other cars within the crowd and thought he could just plow through them and drive off. As he sped into them they dispersed, and he may have noticed the other cars blocking his path at the last moment.

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>>137630317
>>137631073
stfu

>>137653869
If that was all that happened, sure. Unfortunately for you, he ran over a bunch of people first, and then they smashed his car up.

>>137630317
Besides fantasies of a bunch of drooling retards? None!

>>137630317
Videos. Basically eye witness accounts.

>>137652639
Too bad that multiple videos show him accelerating towards this group way before the guy with the flag swung at him.

You Nazis sure aren't the smartest cunts, are you?

>>137630317

Video shows the car being attacked prior to him hitting people. The car wasn't moving fast when it was hit too.

He fucked up, probably by panicking, but it's probably not murder.

Manslaughter will be the maximum IMO.

>>137655499
Doesn't fly, shithead. You can't run over protesters by claiming you were just going the speedlimit unless they literally jump out in front of your car or you can actually prove you were oblivious to their presence. He was very, very aware of their existence(he peeled out his tires). He can't claim "I was going the speed limit, so if I run anyone over, I'm not guilty". That isn't how it works. You are not allowed to intentionally murder jaywalkers just because they're jaywalking and you're going the speedlimit.

You have no argument. The speed of the vehicle doesn't matter. Just because James Fields wasn't going as fast as some sandnigger doesn't mean he didn't commit murder. It has no relevance to anything.

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TURNS OUT HE WAS ANTIFA PLANT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihdjFZcgUhc

>>137656775

Nah, he slows down; he accelerates at the begging, then it coasts down the street.

The car is then hit, then he swerves to the right, then accelerates.

>>137656521
What's going on in this pic? It's a mess.

>>137657295

Panicking and trying to escape is perfectly valid reason for hitting someone if you're threatened.

>>137656251
>Nope, it just means he's not a terrorist.

Who cares? I never claimed he specifically was(though he likely is, and it has nothing to do with car speed. It has to do with the fact that he made a politically motivated attack and murdered someone for that ideal by running them over. Small scale terrorism, but still terrorism), I only claimed he's a murderer, which he is.

where the black guy jumps off the front hood of the truck, look inside of the the front window and you can see at least one guy maybe 2 inside the truck. shiner mason sticker on truck.

>>137657474
the faggot kike is crypto jew it was a psyop

>>137630317
None, this was clearly a far right terror attack. This shit is ridiculous and I'm fucking tired of the escalation. People are completely dehumanizing each other, how did we come to this?

>>137657636
The mental gymnastics here are unfathomable. Especially since you'll claim "you don't have proof of his intentions! I know he was just threatened and scared"

>>137656728
Unfortunately, they prove his guilt.

>>137655970
The second time they tried to open his door, the third time they succeeded. First time they banged his window and he floored it, ran over people.
You've not proven shit, your arguments are disingenuous and blinkered. We all have the same video evidence to go on, i'm not using recounts of the event, like the fuckwit nigger screaming he was going 80mph. All the questions i ask arise from glaring inaccuracies with the claim that this was a terrorist using a car as a weapon. Why did he brake, why was he going so slow, why not mount the pavement, why not go back for seconds, why was there a mob armed with baseball bats following the car, why didn't he swerve to hit people? You've jumped to a conclusion, along with the press and every fuckwit swam dwelling clown politician, every arsehole leftist and every mindless drone. You're on 4Chan buddy boy, your reddit spacing is a huge tell for the sort of idiot you are.

mason troopers spotted in black truck

>>137657849
Low effort, up your game. At least make it entertaining.

>>137657722
incoherence the post.

>>137657856

It's a true statement, though.

If you're being attacked and you somehow accidentally kill someone when trying to flee, you aren't a murderer. It can be manslaughter.

He very will could have had murderous intent after the car was hit. That's for the trial.

>>137657800
How is he linked to the Twitter handle? Who's the goldenstein bitch?

>>137657979
Whatever you say, friendo. I know you guys are delusional, anyway.

>>137658198
>I went to go punch my buddy in the face, and he had the audacity to lay a hand on me to stop me. Naturally, I beat him to death in self defense

>>137657177
>Video shows the car being attacked prior to him hitting people.

No, it doesn't. It shows 1 kid hitting his car with a bat while he's 1 second away from plowing into a crowd of people at 30mph. That had no bearing on his actions.

>The car wasn't moving fast when it was hit too.

Ok great, go sit in my driveway and I'll run over your head at 10mph. Should be fine since I'm not driving that fast.

>Manslaughter will be the maximum IMO.

There is no chance he gets away with anything less than murder. He has no self defense claim. He can't even fall back on his schizophrenia because it was a politically motivated attack. It's not like he just did it out of nowhere and he's just nuts, he targeted a specific group of people for a specific reason which speaks of premeditation.

He is fucked, and nobody on this board should be defending him.

did you guys know that he doesn't even have a lawyer? the DA office said they couldn't represent him since someone in the office was related to someone who was injured. so they assigned him to a local conservative attorney who has been trying to save the statue thru lawsuits. that lawyer is out of town until next week and hiking without cell reception, so the judge even admitted that they weren't sure if this would be his attorney.

latest i heard was that he may go the sovereign citizen route and do a certain type of plea, maybe it was "no plea", I forget, sorry. it was on the daily shoah yesterday, they mentioned it. what i said above was from the local newspaper in charlottesville, online.

>>137658135
What exactly did I say which is counter factual? You may disagree that this clear escalation of violence on both sides is good but that's not my position.

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>>137657849
lol bro you are so blue pilled there is little hope for you, you don't even know you are in the matrix yet. This was not a terror attack this was a deliberate psyop setup. How did we come to this? By design pic related

>>137630317
>one or two dudes hit the car with a bat prior to him slamming into a crowd of people

HE DINDU NUFFIN, IT WUZ SELF DEFENSE N SHIET

>>137657636
>Panicking and trying to escape is perfectly valid reason for hitting someone if you're threatened.

There is no proof he was in a situation that would justify accelerating towards a crowd like 100 ft away and running them over, and in fact all of the evidence is to the contrary. Being afraid does not give you license to murder anyone within hundreds of feet of you. It's under very specific circumstances, and you better have a super fucking good reason for it. He does not.

There is no evidence to suggest he was in a situation he could not escape. All of the evidence suggests that he chose to threaten by peeling out his tires, and then accelerated towards a crowd of people and killed some of them. It really is that simple. There is no self-defense argument here.

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Not necessarily that he was acting in self-defense, but nobody watching the video seriously believes that this guy went and found some protesters and deliberately ran them over, or he'd have been going 80 and actually killed more than one of them. His actions bespeak of either frustration, confusion, or stupidity, not of cold-blooded malice.

I doubt self-defense will go through, but it's possible. They'll probably get him on Voluntary Manslaughter, and he'll serve single-digit years.

>>137637661
He had his licence plates on and was in his own car. Definitly not premeditated.

And that airbag bs, my airbags didn't go off when a guy hit my car at a similar speed, sometimes they just don't work below 60. So yeah, no evidence yet for premeditaion.

>>137658178
Nice copout. I guess parenthesis are confusing to limey faggots. At least lose the argument with dignity by not even responding. When you respond with something lame like this, it just makes it apparent you don't have a good counter.

>>137658813
Why do you find that easier to believe when this guy was clearly part of the far right, pictured holding shields with the fascist symbol and all, and he attacked these people for political reasons. I'm not saying anything except that this case was a clear act of terrorism by definition. It's so much more of an obvious answer than a psyop setup which I presume is some Illuminati type deal.

>>137658393

Watch the full video.

The car is almost at a stop, and then it's hit. He then accelerates.

>>137658310
Define "you guys".

>>137659248
I have watched the full video, and that isn't what happens. He's not "almost at a stop" and he's not stopped. He was accelerating when the bat hit his car, and was literal feet away from hitting the crowd. Not valid.

>>137658467
>clear escalation of violence
False statement is false, just like >clearly a far right terror attack.

>>137659269
Define "I don't care". Because I don't.

>>137630317
Protesters armed with bats are not peaceful.

>>137659553

BS you have

He accelerates at the start of the video, and then coasts down the street.

Before the intersection, it's going slowly.

Then the dude hits the car, then it accelerates and swerves to the right around people and then straight down the street.

He wasn't feet away from the crowd, moron. The crowd he hits is about 20 meters down the street.

>>137658393
It actually shows a guy hit his car in the right as well but it's fast and harder to see. That's at least two hits. Judging by the sound it was at least three hits hard enough to carry to the camera, which was a significant distance. What do you imagine it sounded like inside the car?

It will be manslaughter.

>>137659592
>man runs over people for political reasons
>not a terror attack

What is it then? Also are you just denying there is a clear rise in tensions and violence around the country for months if not years now?

>>137658959
>Not necessarily that he was acting in self-defense, but nobody watching the video seriously believes that this guy went and found some protesters and deliberately ran them over, or he'd have been going 80 and actually killed more than one of them.

You're not thinking it through all the way. There are any number of reasons why it played out the way it did, but none of them really matter. It was deliberate and intentional. Whether he waited until he could actually see the crowd to do it, whether he chickened out, panicked and braked somewhat, whatever...the parts that are clear is that he did intend to run them over(whether this was decided before he got into the vehicle or not isn't that relevant), and that the attack was politically motivated.

I do think it speaks of cold blooded malice. I do not think he was just some retard that accidentally hurt people or something. My best guess? Frustrated /pol/tard. Went down there to start some shit. Got angry as shit, and ran them over. Some variation of that. How EXACTLY it played out doesn't matter that much. We'll get those details later. What is apparent is that it was deliberate.

>I doubt self-defense will go through, but it's possible. They'll probably get him on Voluntary Manslaughter, and he'll serve single-digit years.

Extremely wishful and stupidly optimistic thinking. Have some impartiality.

>>137660193
Yes but BLM, Antifa, and Islamic fucks are mostly responsible.

>>137659006
>He had his licence plates on and was in his own car. Definitly not premeditated.

That's not evidence that it wasn't premeditated dumbass. Lots of people run people over and leave their plates on. Not everyone plans these things out coherently, because some people are dumb, violent idiots like James Fields.

>>137630317
I don't give a shit whether it was self-defense or not. Every commie rat needs to be rounded up and gassed.

>>137659593
>"I give up": the post

>>137644569
That's how fast the Titanic was going when it hit the iceberg.

>>137644569
I mean, it was fast enough to kill somebody so what does it matter?

>>137630317
>What proof is there that this nazi was acting in self defense
what proof is there that he wasnt?

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>>137638125
>>137637739
I don't think it looks like either of them personally.

>>137660846
What part of I don't care is confusing you?

ITS ALL HERE BOSS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihdjFZcgUhc

>>137660193
>man runs over people for political reasons
your repeated unfounded assertion.

>denying there is a clear rise
Yes, there has not been a rise, antifa and niggers had raised things to the current level long ago.

>>137659878
>The crowd he hits is about 20 meters down the street.

>>137652187

>60 feet
>60 FEET

I am typing to a literal retard. You cannot be this stupid.

I knew you guys were dumb but this thread made it apparent it's a whole different level of stubborn and stupid.

>>137660323
You are the one creating a narrative to serve a political goal. There's no evidence that he intended to harm anyone no matter how much you rant.

>>137659912
>It will be manslaughter.

Not even a remote chance in hell. You can't gun it, squeel your tires threateningly, advance on a crowd, and then claim it was self defense because some of the guys in the crowd hit your car with bats as you were about to mow them down. Not a fucking chance he gets manslaughter.

>>137660323
Ridiculous. It isn't clear at all that it was deliberate or intentional. On the contrary, the evidence overwhelmingly supports the position that he was being surrounded and attacked and acted out of fear, in a panic.

AntiFa had blockaded the road, and was attacking the stopped traffic. This after they had spent the day attacking a peaceful protest, with the approval and support of the local and state government, who wanted to ban the protest but lost their case in court, so they ordered their police to stand aside while AnitFa attacked, and then used the violence as an excuse to pull the rally permit from the victims, and told the police to force them out, one by one, through a gauntlet of AntiFa terrorists with bludgeons.

Under those circumstances, when AntiFa surrounds your car, you push through if you don't want to be beaten to a bloody mess. He couldn't see and didn't account for the thickness of the crowd, more cars stopped in the thick of it, or the participation of fat people who couldn't get out of the way fast enough. He was driving a muscle car built to accelerate very quickly, so any panic about an attack from behind would likely result in a surge forward.

Furthermore, his actions show no effort to maximize casualties. He didn't steer into the fleeing people. He wasn't steadily accelerating. It seems rather obvious that he was just trying to get through, moving fast enough to force people to move aside and communicate that he would not tolerate being stopped for an attack, but slow enough to give them time to do so.

This kind of incident was an inevitable result of their tactics.

>>137637739
Keep dropping redpills. Have we ever found out who paid the bus fare?

>>137660518
>>137661414
Oh come on. I really don't understand the attitude around here that only one side is responsible. There are calls to violence and genocide here constantly, that seeps into the mainstream, echoes of it elected the president, and you think people aren't going to be concerned? You can't just throw your hands up and say you had nothing to do with it unless you never propagated those views.

Who needs evidence anymore. He'll just be put in prison to stick it to the """"""""""nazis""""""""""" and keep the narrative going.

>>137661930
Yes it will be. Unless you have some secret information nobody else has, what you see is what you get.

>>137661552
>You are the one creating a narrative to serve a political goal.

That's hilarious considering I'm right wing. If anything I'm trying to stop you braindead retards from backing a literal paranoid schizophrenic murderer. I didn't think it would be this hard, but apparently a lot of you are basically like nigger moms defending their murderer children.

>There's no evidence that he intended to harm anyone no matter how much you rant.

Squeeling tires, accelerating towards a crowd, and dead people prove you wrong, and his "intent" doesn't matter much anyways. He's guilty of murder.

>>137662082
Reddit, we know you guys live in a bubble, but you're wrong. Okay? Talk is cheap. If Antifa was just talking, nobody would give a shit.

>>137644351
For those who DON'T know. He was a truck driver YANKED from his truck during the Rodney King riots. Beaten. Badly.I miss anything? Add to post.

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>>137662277
>How do you do, fellow right-wingers!
>As you well know, I'm one of you, just here to say that we should accept and promote the AntiFa narrative that one of their panicking victims was a terrorist, rather than the gang blocking the road to attack the stopped traffic with bludgeons.
>Look! I say "nigger", so you know I'm legit! I'm one of you!
>Trust me, I know what's best for us, which is to ignore the evidence and declare one of our side to be a terrorist murderer.
>While we're at it, let's laugh and say how much we support terrorism! We're all terrorists together, aren't we?

>>137662530
>doesn't address my points
>shifts the focus onto the left again
>calls me Reddit

Cool. I'm not denying the violence on the left. I'm saying both sides are vile and dragging us down into the mud.